#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 341

wet pilot Jan 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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i'd feel better with something like zwave vs something on the IP network

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Yeah, nothing IP connected thanks, or Bluetooth

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Being in the UK though with a modern door, there's very few options (if any)

dry cairn Jan 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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i just saw the first roomba prototype video

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📎 YfncjXX.mp4

languid sphinx Jan 28, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Well, I went from no interest in tuya stuff to "must buy plugs now" in 20 minutes heh

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

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home assistant is weird

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i want to go back to openhab

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:09 PM

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🤣

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Having looked at OpenHAB after using Home Assistant...
OpenHAB is weird 😛

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

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how do you change this name for example?

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clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/customizing-devices/

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Customize the friendly name

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

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where?

📎 unknown.png

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

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See the link I posted?

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

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yes

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

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It provides 3 ways you can do that

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

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it says there's a cog

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ok

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Cog (requires entity registry support), GUI (if no entity registry), and manual

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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thats how i did it on my chromecast

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Yeah, not everything is supported by the entity registry

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(yet)

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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soon

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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This side of the end of the universe, probably 😛

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

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now i need to understand the dash button thing

charred meteor Jan 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Hello, where do you guys source Xiaomi stuff? Gearbest?

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

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gearbest, banggood, whatever

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depends on where it's cheap

charred meteor Jan 28, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Cool thanks

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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just received a new yeelight bulb from banggood 😛

charred meteor Jan 28, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Let´s see if the package slips through customs with regular mail

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 7:45 PM

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uh actually dasshio works good

orchid rose Jan 28, 2019, 8:07 PM

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aliexpress can be cheapest as well

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 8:07 PM

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What's the delay like when using dasshio?

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:10 PM

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1-2sec

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i'd say 1,2sec

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it works better than on openhab

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it had a longer delay there

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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home assistant is fckng weird

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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🤣

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What's weird this time 😉

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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i wanted to integrate mclighting

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so i added mqtt

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and added that part on the mclighting part to the conf for autodiscovery afaik

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and then i tried to restart

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but

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some weird error came

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and now it worked

clever mortar Jan 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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MQTT can be weird all by itself

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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yes

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https://github.com/toblum/McLighting/wiki/Homeassistant-integration

GitHub

toblum/McLighting

The ESP8266 based multi-client lighting gadget. Contribute to toblum/McLighting development by creating an account on GitHub.

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i did this and nothing came

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😦

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this is why i switched to home assistant (and because of the shit yeelight integration)

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lol

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1548706617: New connection from 192.168.1.7 on port 1883.
1548706617: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.

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why

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CONNECTED TO MQTT

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please

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work

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lets restart mqtt

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lets see what happens

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connected

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but why 1548707958: New client connected from 192.168.1.7 as InfinityESP8266 (c1, k15, u'mqtt-user').
1548707962: New connection from 172.30.32.1 on port 1883.
1548707963: Socket error on client <unknown>, disconnecting.
1548707963: New connection from 172.30.32.1 on port 1883.

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i know it's dumb writing in here somehow butt

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what is this

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ok connected

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home assistant is fucking weird

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's weird

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:45 PM

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i don't understand why home assistant doesn't discoveres the esp

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that's weird because i added mqtt discovery to the config file

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 8:48 PM

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You're using the homeassistant built in mqtt broker?

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:49 PM

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yes

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That Mosquitto broker addon

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Mosquitto is not the embedded broker, but okay. You'll need to post your mqtt config if you really want help

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 8:52 PM

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i do tomorrow

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Em

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Is this normal after a restart?

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I mean no restart in general, just switching power locations

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Apparently it is

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confusing af

unreal orbit Jan 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Yeah waiting for computers to boot after you yank their power is pretty confusing.

eager crest Jan 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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monkaShoot

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confusing in terms of it looks like it's reinstalling or something not sure

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 12:55 AM

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I will never understand how people can knock something they get absolutely for free, where people work hard in their free time to make 🤯

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 1:23 AM

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holy crap

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was without internet all day then spent the last 3 hours trying to figure out how to bypass AT&T's modem so i can use my router directly

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Uverse /fiber?

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 1:31 AM

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@wet pilot , I saw you thinking about a ubiquiti router, did you settle on something?

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:31 AM

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No purchase yet

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Gotta wait and see if I owe anything on taxes this year

amber bramble Jan 29, 2019, 1:31 AM

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ubiquiti routers = winning

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i'm rocking an ER Lite and it has been rock solid

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@wet pilot yup fiber

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Looking at the ER4 which is the same thing rebranded

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 1:33 AM

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i've got the USG and just picked up a dell r720 from ebay with 192GB of RAM

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:33 AM

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@odd mason ah, you're sol then, gotta keep it. Best you can do is put it in pass through mode

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 1:33 AM

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gonna be virtualizing out the ass

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@wet pilot nope

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there's a new way

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Orly?

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 1:33 AM

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https://github.com/uchagani/eap_proxy

GitHub

uchagani/eap_proxy

Proxy EAP packets between interfaces on a Ubiquiti Networks EdgeRouter™ Lite - uchagani/eap_proxy

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it's not my work but i simplified the instructions for just IPV4

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Interesting

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I'd like to get rid of that thing too

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Seems pretty benign right now in pass through though

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Thinking about the erx....want the er4 but I may need the switch chip of the erx

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:39 AM

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I was thinking ER4 plus switch

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Some of this is stopgappy though, need to put some serious money together to build my server closet and wire things

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Have some dead space above my garage that some neighbors have finished into normal closets

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Run up some strong power feeds and a dedicated ac unit that vents back out to the attic

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Nice....I have a space I could do that in but would be overkill for me

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I have an old Dell r610 with decent specs that I'm not using right now because it's too damn loud

amber bramble Jan 29, 2019, 1:45 AM

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i want a rackmount server but they use so much electricity 😦

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Lol

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Just pipe the server heat into the house in the winter 😀

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 1:53 AM

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https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/219652227--EdgeRouter-Which-EdgeRouter-Should-I-Use-#3

Ubiquiti Networks Support and Help Center

EdgeRouter - Which EdgeRouter Should I Use?

Overview

This article will help users decide which EdgeRouter product to use, as well as outline the differences in each product and product series.

NOTES & REQUIREMENTS:

Applicable t...

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 2:03 AM

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@wet pilot I never got above 500 with pass through. I'm cracking 900s now with the bypass

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Nice

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 2:04 AM

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@amber bramble what's too much electricity?

amber bramble Jan 29, 2019, 2:04 AM

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most rackmount servers

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 2:04 AM

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No I mean what do u consider too much?

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Like hundreds of dollars a month?

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Or like an extra 50?

amber bramble Jan 29, 2019, 2:05 AM

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my current electric bill is between $50 and $150 depending on how much air conditioning gets run in the summer

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my entire house averages 500-1000 watts of power usage, i'd have a hard time justifying event 100 watts of additional continuous power draw

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Ah ok

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My electric bill is usually about 150

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I don't mind spending an extra 100ish if I'm getting what I want

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But if it's like 300 more a month then I might think twice

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:22 AM

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100.00 just to run a server? Yea, I will pass.....has to be a better option

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:34 AM

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An R610 has a 717 watt power supply. Even if it was under full load (very unlikely) it would only pull about 533 kwh of power per month. That would come out to ~$98 a month where I'm at

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Mine has dual PSUs 😀

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 2:38 AM

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mine does too lol

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i've never run a server before so this will be new

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:39 AM

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They're redundant, they don't both pull max load at once.

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:39 AM

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But I also have no problem running a 1kw AVR 2x gaming machines and an always on desktop acting as a server

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@unreal orbit i know, just joshing

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Yeah a lot of people freak out at the size of a PSU thinking that the rating is what it runs at all the time

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In reality if your server or gaming station are idle most of the time the power usage is pretty minimal

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Shared Plex box, so it can be pretty busy 😛

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Well yeah, that'll do it 😉

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Old inefficient hardware too

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:44 AM

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R610s aren't too bad, that's what we have at work right now. They're dirt cheap because they're "obsolete" but they are still more than capable for home stuff

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Yep, 2x 4c/8t, 96g of ram

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I'll just stick with my NUC because the noise is a bit much on those servers though 😃

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Over the long run, the NUC would probably be cheaper

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Oh, it's awful

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I tried to put it it my office and I couldn't stand it

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Honestly I'm running everything I could possibly want on this little computer, and it's just truckin along like nothin.

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Don't see myself upgrading unless my family suddenly grows by 100 people

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:48 AM

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But initial investment?

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Of a nuc? You'd pay that much for a server

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Some of us 😁

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Well I actually have a Lenovo M93, so not technically a NUC

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Paid 100 bucks for it iirc

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Are there different NUCs? Zombu2 suggested one but it started at 900.00 and needed a drive and something else

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There ya go

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:54 AM

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There are. I was looking at a few of the genuine intels before I decided on the lenovo. They start from 300 and go up to way more than anybody should pay

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:56 AM

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I am pretty freak’n happy with my Raspberry at the moment. Thought about doing some video stuff, but in the end, I leave that to the video app. Some of this facial recognition stuff I see people talking about is way cool but I don’t think it is perfected yet

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 2:58 AM

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It's less about the performance and more of the reliability and storage for me, but* I'm doing a bit more than a pi can handle at this point. I'm pushing my little computer as much as it allows me

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 2:59 AM

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On google now 🤪. Yours has an i5?

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This shit is addicting. Worse than RC airplanes.

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Haha

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No mine is smaller, let me check

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Is what you have ever enough?

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:02 AM

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I like to think it's possible

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but no

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Maybe for like a week.....then some hotshot on here talking about how he was able to do x and y and w .......

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:04 AM

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servers are cheap

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I just realized I typed the wrong part number. I have an M73, not a 93. Though that is a thing. Mine has an intel G3220T processor

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:05 AM

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i just got a r720 with 192GB RAM and dual E5-2660s for $840

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the NUC i was looking at was 1100

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I have an i5 box im bit using that I'm going to migrate to soon but I'm short SATA connectors atm

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:06 AM

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phnx bragging about his plex server and doesn't even hit us up with a link smh

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:06 AM

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lol

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what do people use plex for? to watch your own content?

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like stuff u own?

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Probably porn

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Like every good red-blooded male

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:07 AM

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I use it for movies and all my music

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mostly not porn

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:07 AM

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lol i just watch shit for free on kodi

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:07 AM

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👆liar

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That was meant for @unreal orbit

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🤪

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Relying on the cloud 😧

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@unreal orbit it's kindof a POS right now. Running on an ancient and a10

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@unreal orbit yea i don't own much media

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don't see the point in it. if my internet goes out i just have sex with the wife

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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And like 12 other containers

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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lol

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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"Own" lol

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I have laser discs

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Can I rip those to Plex

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Lmao

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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@green inlet lol probably

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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But what are you going to do with the other 23 hours and 58 minutes of the day @odd mason

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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@unreal orbit eat/drink/add more zwave switches

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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You know how long later discs were in?

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Lol

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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haha good answer

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:10 AM

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@green inlet like 5 mins?

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Probably closer to 3

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:11 AM

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when my internet goes out i check on all my devices and see which ones don't work

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then laugh at all the people that rely on the cloud for their devices to work lol

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:11 AM

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I mean you should be able to see that when you add them Home assistant tells you what requires cloud polling

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:11 AM

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@unreal orbit yea but it's more fun to play with them when the internet doesn't work

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Your internet goes out?

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:12 AM

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@green inlet my modem died last night

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Mine does because my router is dieing

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:12 AM

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had to force AT&T to send a tech right away

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they wanted me to wait 2 days

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:12 AM

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I think you have bigger issues than the cloud

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Gross

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:12 AM

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hopefully now that i've bypassed the AT&T machine i won't have that problem anymore

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first thing i'm gonna do when my server comes is set up a backup router with pfsense

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in case the unifi USG dies

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:13 AM

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That's something I've been considering as well

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:13 AM

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i'm just learning about shit i can host myself

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next is next cloud

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so i can get rid of dropbox

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Hosting your own cloud mindblown

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Own cloud?

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Cloud is just a shitty marketing term anyway

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Next Cloud

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https://nextcloud.com/

Nextcloud

Nextcloud is an open source, self-hosted file share and communication platform. Access & sync your files, contacts, calendars & communicate and collaborate across your devices.

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Just initialize your root directory into a git repository. Problem solved

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Or trust Apple.......

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Because I just wonder what the size of the iCloud team is?

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And how experienced they are

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:17 AM

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gotta pay for it though

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why not just host it yourself if u have the infrastructure

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Ha ha ha ....I pay .99 cents a month, you getting an 1100.00 server to do it

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And I get a huge team of well qualified people to spend 24x7 protecting it

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I use onedrive. It comes with my microsoft office subscription

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:22 AM

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i paid 840 and it's not like i'll only be running next cloud lol

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Which I've been contemplating cancelling anyway

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:23 AM

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You brought up price, my incentive is the team

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:23 AM

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yea but u have to gauge everything

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:23 AM

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That has a reputation to uphold

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:23 AM

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99cents a month for 50GB

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Meh, my data isn't that critical. I can do some work for it

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:23 AM

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don't get me wrong, i love apple's stance on privacy and that's the only reason i moved to an iphone

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but i'd rather host the data myself without having to worry about space

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plus it's more geeky

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i really need to get off reddit and do some fucking work

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i have like 7 hours to make up for today

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my xiaomi sensors came in today too

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gotta set up zigbee2mqtt sometime this week

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 3:27 AM

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To each is own....that is why baskin and Robbins has 31 flavors 😂

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:27 AM

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lol

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:49 AM

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lol, paying to run servers at your own house

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:50 AM

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to each their own

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:51 AM

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let's play "guess when I turned the server off"

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ready?

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go

dry cairn Jan 29, 2019, 3:51 AM

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dec 28

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:52 AM

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this winter's been stupid here

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:52 AM

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@last dirge what did that convert into dollar-wise?

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:53 AM

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depends on ambient temp

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but 85-100/month

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:53 AM

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that's not too bad

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:53 AM

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that's an assload of money

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:53 AM

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sure

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 3:53 AM

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That's not terrible

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:53 AM

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but if i'm happy with the setup i'm okay with it

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maybe i'll cut back on the chipotle lol

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:54 AM

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that's a single 2U server

dry cairn Jan 29, 2019, 3:54 AM

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it's only an assload full of money in the ghetto strip club

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🤣

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:54 AM

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the NUC that uses less than a tenth of the power handles pretty much everything I was doing

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wide open the NUC pulls 3.5A

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just the fans in the server pulled more than that

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:57 AM

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we'll see. it's my first server. i'll give it a year or two then maybe i'll sell it

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but i'm excited about it

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192GB of ram LOL

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looking forward to trying to find things to use it on

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:58 AM

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unless you're doing massive data mining/analysis it's just turning money into heat 😃

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:58 AM

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check out this dude: https://wiki.bdfserver.com/index.php/Camp_Kiwi_Data_Center

Camp Kiwi Data Center

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 3:59 AM

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do you have somewhere well away from where you and others sleep to keep it?

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 3:59 AM

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he created a data center in his home

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he literally had to re-enforce the floors in his home because of all the equipment. runs his own wiki, email server, etc

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@last dirge it'll just go in my basement

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 4:00 AM

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is the ceiling of the basement insulated with something like rock wool?

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if no, you'll hear it upstairs, guaranteed

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 4:00 AM

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it's just normal insulation. fan noise doesn't bother me at all tbh

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 4:03 AM

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looks like he just built a raised floor, not reinforcement

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@serene mortar you're in Gwinnett, right?

serene mortar Jan 29, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I'm yes

last dirge Jan 29, 2019, 4:07 AM

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you ready for this ridiculousness tomorrow?

serene mortar Jan 29, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Well... I'm sure it will be almost nothing... But yes ready for the fun 😜

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Everything is closed tomorrow for may be less than half an inch of ❄️

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 4:10 AM

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lol we're still waiting to hear from forsyth county schools

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most likely they'll be closed too

serene mortar Jan 29, 2019, 4:11 AM

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We have digital learning day for Gwinnett...

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 4:11 AM

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what's that

serene mortar Jan 29, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Lol... Kids stay home and pretend to work 😜

unreal orbit Jan 29, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Dang, technology is taking away snow days? That's not cool

serene mortar Jan 29, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Teachers post online exercises and all

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 4:12 AM

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LOL

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my kid's in daycare so it really just turns into "watch baby shark until dad wants to kill himself" day

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 4:14 AM

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https://youtu.be/POdbe-_bYbs @odd mason

YouTube

Frog Leap Studios

Baby Shark (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli)

Written by Shawnee Lamb and Robin Davies You can buy my albums or singles here: DIRECT FROM ME (LOSSLESS) ► http://bit.ly/2usJ3lq ITUNES ► http://apple.co/1L...

▶ Play video

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 4:14 AM

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noooooooooo

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this song will be the end of me. my kid has been listening to it for over a year and he still isn't tired of it

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 4:14 AM

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That one is pretty good though

serene mortar Jan 29, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Same here... My kids would have added a few million views

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To be fair, it is better than five little monkeys 🤣

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Lol

odd mason Jan 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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my kid is obessed with this and the "finger family" song

glossy mortar Jan 29, 2019, 8:50 AM

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My SOHO Netgear router is going senile. My wakeup automations failed this morning due to lack of network. So I've ordered some new stuff...

📎 photo_2019-01-29_09.47.26.jpeg

green inlet Jan 29, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Atlanta people :-).

jade heron Jan 29, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Hi! Is there someone here that could help me make a template like this ps4: friendly_name: Playstation 4 device_class: power entity_id: media_player.playstation_4 value_template: "{{ not is_state('media_player.playstation_4', 'off') }}" icon_template: 'mdi:playstation' Only change i want is that it triggers on state and entity. I have different media players for Plex and i dont want to make code for every plex player. So the template needs to trigger when a media player have Plex in entity and state is playing. Is this possible?

gleaming valve Jan 29, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@jade heron try in #330944238910963714 or the forums. 😃

hearty depot Jan 29, 2019, 3:59 PM

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.. ist this also house automation?
https://pr0gramm.com/new/2972594

pr0gramm.com

Die besten Bilder und Videos aus dem Netz

eager crest Jan 29, 2019, 4:07 PM

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yes

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lol

eager crest Jan 29, 2019, 4:25 PM

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FCK YEA

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IT WORKS

hearty depot Jan 29, 2019, 4:27 PM

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What?

eager crest Jan 29, 2019, 4:27 PM

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i can use my stream deck

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to control home assistant

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i wrote an plugin for it

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and itworks

uneven cobalt Jan 29, 2019, 5:20 PM

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I am looking for a way to track if a device has been moved. I am thinking about trying placing this on the device and using the Google Home Bluetooth tracking to track it. Anyone know if this kind of device would work? https://www.gearbest.com/other-survival-and-emergency-gears/pp_265709.html?wid=1433363&currency=USD&vip=16104228&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9sbwx76T4AIV0IbACh1W6wsbEAEYASAFEgI8jPD_BwE

distant stream Jan 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Almost completely untied from IFTTT

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got the discord component working and redoing all my notifications

tired ruin Jan 29, 2019, 5:58 PM

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@glossy mortar i recently did the same, the POE stuff is very nice tho if you can make that happen, esp if you have pis and other stuff you can use it with, a lot less cables

quartz moth Jan 29, 2019, 6:37 PM

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anyone here good in networking who could give me a hand to set this up?
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=132674

hearty depot Jan 29, 2019, 7:10 PM

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@eager crest Nice! Now it would be only awesome if the streamdeck working wirelessly

eager crest Jan 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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yep :P

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you could build yourself something

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rpi zero w + selfbuilt case + virtualhere transmitting to your nuc (hopefully windows - because the software needs macos/windows) @hearty depot

hearty depot Jan 29, 2019, 7:43 PM

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No windows there =/ Thinking of getting a HA switchplate

eager crest Jan 29, 2019, 7:46 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536232483314860053/539893641196470296/VID-20190129-WA0019.mp4

▶ Play video

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you can still develop your own client then

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but the windows client is much easier to use

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as its gui

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and my integration is using service calls

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so buttons only/nothing dynamic yet

frigid ridge Jan 29, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Well that's concerning. I just hooked up a new ZEN15 and it keeps cutting off and back on on its own accord.

quartz ether Jan 29, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Any json/api gurus able to give me some help with something?

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 11:53 PM

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what's up?

quartz ether Jan 29, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I am trying to get an API command to enable/disable download clients in Sonarr and have it controller by hass. Certain days of week use x client etc.
https://hastebin.com/bibitimohi.json is the Json data from the api command https://sonarr/api/downloadclient?apikey=apikey

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In the first few lines of each one is the "enable": part that I need to update each time

[
  {
    "enable": false,
    "protocol": "torrent",
    "name": "Deluge UnRaid",
    "fields": [
      {

wet pilot Jan 29, 2019, 11:59 PM

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for all or just one?

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Enable one. Disable others

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Currently there are only two download clients

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Lines 3 and 110

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:03 AM

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looks like they don't have that endpoint documented

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can you do a get on /api/downloadclient/3 and see what you get back?

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Their documentation is TERRIBLE for API.... the answer I seem to keep getting is..... If you can do it in the UI then you can do it via API use dev tools to find what you are after (which is how I got the api command in the firstplace)

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https://hastebin.com/eruzijojon.json

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:08 AM

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post method not allowed

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i think they want a put and that'll be more obnoxious

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yep, that worked

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:09 AM

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{enable: true, protocol: "torrent", name: "Deluge UnRaid",…}
configContract: "DelugeSettings"
enable: true
fields: [{order: 0, name: "Host", label: "Host", value: "10.1.1.115", type: "textbox", advanced: false},…]
id: 3
implementation: "Deluge"
implementationName: "Deluge"
infoLink: "https://github.com/Sonarr/Sonarr/wiki/Supported-DownloadClients#deluge"
name: "Deluge UnRaid"
protocol: "torrent"

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:09 AM

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you gotta send back the full payload for the thing as a put

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Damn lol.

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:11 AM

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so do a get on /api/downloadclient/3 (deluge) do a r.json() to convert turn it into a dict, change enable to False and post the full thing back

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via put

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requests.put()

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just tested on my sonarr box and it worked

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:12 AM

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How do I do that lol.

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:12 AM

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might need a python script, i don't think a built in component can handle that

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you want to do the get each time too, otherwise you could stomp changes with your automation

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Got the code you used to test that I could do as example?

stuck bay Jan 30, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Hello I have a question about hassio 86.4 release, is it out actually?

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Hi any one know if home assistant can be configure from terminal in Linux?

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Anyone here have a Foxtel IQ4 box (Australia)? It's terrible, but wondering if anyone has the IR codes. I can't get them because the remote it comes with uses bluetooth

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:45 AM

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@wet pilot I have the GET and PUT commands now just how can I edit it via script inbetween?

curl https://sonarr/api/downloadclient/4?apikey=apikey > deluge.json

Just need the convert enable to true/false line in here

curl -i -X PUT https://sonarr/api/downloadclient/4?apikey=apikey -H "Content-Type: text/xml" --data-binary "@deluge.json"

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:45 AM

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@quartz ether I cheated and tested with postman

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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@golden nest Yes you just need a text editor.

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@stuck bay https://www.home-assistant.io

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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If you're comfortable with bash, that'll work, but I would personally prefer python

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 12:49 AM

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I will give python a go. Does postman show you any of the commands? I might download and play

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 12:50 AM

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It's just a tool to make API calls and beautify the response

barren hound Jan 30, 2019, 1:04 AM

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+1 for postman

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 1:04 AM

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@quartz ether am tuning home assistant on Linux so i have the Linux terminal, what will be a command to add a secure node from the terminal?

barren hound Jan 30, 2019, 1:05 AM

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it's great for when you want to fiddle with it before you plug it into something more robust

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if you're on windows, powershell and Get-RestMethod is pretty useful

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:16 AM

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@golden nest z-wave? I don't think you can do that directly

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@phnx Yes so we can configure the devices through the terminal

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Why do you need to use terminal? Why not use the UI through a phone, tablet or other computer to configure hass?

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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So we can configure remotely

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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That didn't answer the question

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 1:29 AM

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I mean remotely in another network I have the Linux in another place and I enter by remote it and there I want to call the option to add node or remove

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 1:30 AM

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@wet pilot do you have any python scripts in use? I keep getting errors every way I try it

Error executing script: name 'get' is not defined
Error executing script: name 'requests' is not defined
Error executing script: __import__ not found

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 1:31 AM

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@golden nest you’re better off setting up duckdns and letsencrypt for this as a basic method to achieve what you want

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:31 AM

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On mobile, so forgive me

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@tough igloo there is no command because I use sudo service home-assistant restart to restart a command that will add node?

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 1:36 AM

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I’m not sure that’s possible as you would need to put the node in pairing mode by physically pushing a button on the node. If I’m correct

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:37 AM

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import requests
url = 'http://sonarr:8989/api/downloadclient/4'
params = {'apikey': apikey}
r = requests.get(url, params=params)
data = r.json()
data['enable'] = False
p = requests.put(url, params=params, json=data)```

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@tough igloo there's a HA service but I don't there there's a mechanism for doing that via the cli

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@quartz ether code blob for you above

golden nest Jan 30, 2019, 1:40 AM

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@tough igloo well is a button on the Hass just like the restart button that am running the command sudo service home-assistant restart and works perfectly

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 1:43 AM

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@wet pilot Error executing script: import not found

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:43 AM

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This is a python script, yes?

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Yup.

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I haven't tried that in HA yet, I went the appdaemon route

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I think HA is very limited... The scripts are run in a sandboxed environment. The following variables are available in the sandbox:

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hass, data, logger

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Interesting

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That's kinda lame

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You could handle it via curl I guess but it could be obnoxious

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Thats what I am playing with at the moment.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 2:47 AM

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yea i went the appdaemon route for all my more complicated automations

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@quartz ether have you tried the rest component

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since ur making rest requests

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Need to manipulate the data

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Endpoint only supports get/put and for put you need to supply the entire payload

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Would be one MASSIVE rest command lol.

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 2:51 AM

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And to ensure you're not stomping any changes, you'll need to do a get/put for every run

amber bramble Jan 30, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Good grief it’s cold outside

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2 deg F with a wind chill of -15 and by morning its supposed to be -17F with a wind chill of -40

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Heh it'll be 70s here on Sunday

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Just south of that front

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 5:39 AM

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has spent the day battling with a heat wave.

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Hmmm OS drive for plex is currently 255C I think something might be wrong there since it isnt on fire

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Heat wave here 🥵 too

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Nz or Aus?

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Aus

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We’re at the tail end of it now

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Starts to cool off this week

quartz ether Jan 30, 2019, 6:04 AM

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Yea it's hitting us. No where near the temps you got but still for us its high lol

tough igloo Jan 30, 2019, 6:05 AM

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😆 the AC couldn’t handle it there for a few days, just wasn’t doing the job

worn jasper Jan 30, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Ugh it's too cold! Literally!

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Work in a grocery store and we lost all our refrigeration units because it was too cold and iced up the radiators outdoors

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 8:30 AM

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now that's irony in a nutshell

lyric pollen Jan 30, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Does anyone know what the cost would be for a Ubiquity wifi setup? I know there are some people in here extremely knowledgable about that gear.

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Depends on where you are in the world, and what your needs are 😉

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World of difference from a single low end AP and running the software on a computer you already own, to a bunch of high end APs, switches, gateway, cloud key, etc

lyric pollen Jan 30, 2019, 9:15 AM

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I have a 3 AP orbi system right now. Before that I had some Aruba gear a friend scored for me. I'm in the US, Western.

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Prefer wired backhaul. At least 3 APs to a controller.

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 9:16 AM

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IMO you'll be best going to their forums and discussing your budget, floorplan, client requirements, etc etc

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They're really good there at helping through details about construction and layout, to place things sensibly and balance your requirements

lyric pollen Jan 30, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Sounds good. I didn't know they had forums, I'll check that out.

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 9:18 AM

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https://community.ubnt.com/t5/custom/page/page-id/Forums

last plaza Jan 30, 2019, 12:07 PM

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**-20 Degrees Fahrenheit ** here! freezing our asses!!!!

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 12:08 PM

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is that cold?

last plaza Jan 30, 2019, 12:08 PM

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lol - nope, you don't feel anything when you lose your fingers and toes!

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 12:09 PM

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ah its -29C..

last plaza Jan 30, 2019, 12:09 PM

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~f2c -20

velvet horizonBOT Jan 30, 2019, 12:09 PM

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:thermometer:

Fahrenheit To Celsius

-20 degrees fahrenheit = -28.89 degrees celsius!

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 12:09 PM

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sounds colder in celsius

dry cairn Jan 30, 2019, 12:24 PM

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that don t sound right lol

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hmm google says its right

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 12:25 PM

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and google knows best

dry cairn Jan 30, 2019, 12:26 PM

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thats right

amber bramble Jan 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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celsius scale is weird

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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is it

amber bramble Jan 30, 2019, 1:21 PM

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my furnace has been running for 14 straight hours 😦

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:rip: my gas bill

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:49 PM

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fahrenheit scale is weird

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Everybody should be using Kelvin

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:49 PM

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yea sure

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best

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not to be confused with the lights thing kelvin

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Avoids that tricky negative number stuff

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:50 PM

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yep

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:50 PM

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kelvins are the shit

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:50 PM

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yeet

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:51 PM

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https://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/2220140211111.jpg

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 1:52 PM

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My server should be delivered today!!

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So excited

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Fahrenheit is weird imo because it has weird points where 0°F and 100°F is
Celcius is better there because its where water freezes and water burns

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I can finally start doing blue/green deployments of HA

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Kelvin is also better because it uses the same scale as Celcius but begins where no particles are moving

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Fahrenheit is a better human comfort relative scale. Celsius is better for scientific purposes until you get to extreme temps

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Nah

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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so -273,15°C is 0K

clever mortar Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Negative celcius is where you have to put a jumper on

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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i mean -20 does sounds better than -29 but apart from that i don't see the issue

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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yep

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-459,67°F is 0K

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:55 PM

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never really have to do any decimals for F

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:55 PM

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cause those are hard

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:56 PM

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nah, just cleaner

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:56 PM

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i need an iphone

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to use homekit

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this is shit

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i have an mac

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:56 PM

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a mac isnt enough?

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:56 PM

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nope

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:56 PM

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haha, apple...

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:56 PM

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you can only add on iphone/ipad/ipod touch

proven spruce Jan 30, 2019, 1:57 PM

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ipods are cheap 😄

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:57 PM

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ipod touch 5th gen not

last cradle Jan 30, 2019, 1:57 PM

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here's a thought.. don't use homekit

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 1:57 PM

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at least not as its worth

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80€ is too much xd

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for adding homekit devices

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 2:00 PM

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thats what you get for buying into a walled garden 😛

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 2:00 PM

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i need to use macos

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no way around it

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and i like working on it

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But next Mac will be a Hackintosh :P

amber bramble Jan 30, 2019, 2:32 PM

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i want to build a hackintosh

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or i could buy a mac but the hardware is too expensive

wet pilot Jan 30, 2019, 2:34 PM

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or put bsd on a box and you're 80% there

eager crest Jan 30, 2019, 2:50 PM

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well

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Macs are awesome to use on a daily basis but for HA and other stuff I still prefer Linux

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That being said I just bought my first windows machine in almost a decade and I feel dirty

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But blue Iris only runs in windows

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

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@odd mason That is precisely why I have only one computer that has Windows on it: Blue Iris. 1TB SSD, Core i7 3770K, 32GB RAM, and all Blue Iris videos backed up to unRAID.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Nice

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I picked up an acer from newegg

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I5 6500 I think

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Very nice.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Only 8gb ram but I only have like 6 cameras

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I'll update if need be

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:52 PM

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My Windows server hasn't been turned on in forever...I need a new CPU fan. I shut it down because the fan was making some weird noises, and I didn't want to risk burning up an amazing CPU.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Wish I could run blue Iris reliably on my new server in a VM that's supposed to be delivered today

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Just keep Blue Iris minimized and you should be fine. Most resources are used when you try to view all of the cameras at once.

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Even 15 cams on my machine struggled sometimes.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Damn

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:53 PM

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If you get a Xeon and a nice graphics card, you can run Blue Iris reliably in a VM on unRAID.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I heard the new CUDA processing isn't great

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Quick sync is still superior from my research

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:55 PM

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The 3770K is locked for virtualization.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:55 PM

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That's why I got the Acer instead

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Hence why I couldn't pass through my GPU, no matter how hard I tried.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:55 PM

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That sucks

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:56 PM

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One day when I grow up I might upgrade to a dual Xeon mobo.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I've got dual E5-2660s with 192GB RAM coming in. If I can get blue Iris to run well on that in a VM I'll return the Acer

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Save the $350ish I spent on that

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Dude, you shouldn't have any problems at all with that.

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What OS are you planning to run on it?

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Proxmox

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At least initially

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This is my first server so I'm just learning

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:57 PM

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How much did you spend on the dual Xeon with 192GB ram?

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:58 PM

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840

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I'd highly recommend checking out unRAID if you're looking to build a raid server.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I'll check it out

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I may need to get more HD space first

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Don't be scared off by the cost. You get a 30 day free trial, and the cost is well worth it.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 5:59 PM

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This is only coming with 2.4TB 10k drives

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 5:59 PM

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2.4TB is plenty to get you started.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 6:00 PM

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So unRAID would replace Proxmox?

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Just don't setup parity until you can get your hands on a larger drive (6-10TB)

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I'm not familiar with Proxmox.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 6:00 PM

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From my understanding Proxmox is the virtualization software

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Replaced esxi

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Looks like it compares to ESXi.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Yea

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Compare not replace

peak cloud Jan 30, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I guess it depends on your needs. If you're wanting to run an enterprise VM server with tons of VMs, Proxmox might be the way to go.

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If you're wanting something that can run VMs, Docker containers, and store all of your files with dual parity, then unRAID might be a better option.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I think Proxmox can run docker too

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I'll play around with it

amber bramble Jan 30, 2019, 6:40 PM

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woah, a wild dale3h has appeared

unreal orbit Jan 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Anyone having issues with TPLink stuff lately? My switches keep going unavailable. Once every minute or so one of them goes unavailable for a few seconds and then comes back

hallow wigeon Jan 30, 2019, 11:20 PM

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You might struggle with CCTV software on the Xeon's @odd mason I am just about to sell mine, as I have 2x 2550 I think they are, but they dont support quick sync, I bought it as a do everything server, but had to replace it with a i7 that supports Quicksync, as it was just stuttering like hell with anything video wise.

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 11:20 PM

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@hallow wigeon I bought i5 8400 for the blue iris

hallow wigeon Jan 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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ah perfect then

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i picked up an old HP Prodesk just for cctv, then use a synology for storage, and a mac mini with debian for HA and everything else

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got a HP DL360 Gen8 with 2x xeon and 32gb ram, for £250/$330 which was an amazing deal, but the not being able to run motioneye on it was a deal breaker

odd mason Jan 30, 2019, 11:23 PM

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my plan is to have blue iris record on the included hard drive and then have motion clips uploaded to my next cloud instance

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which will be on the r720

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:07 AM

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We should have a #zha

vale shale Jan 31, 2019, 2:39 AM

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As in zwave? @rapid plinth

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Or zigbee?

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Zha -> zigbee

vale shale Jan 31, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Ahh, I have never used zigbee before. I can agree with making another channel for that.

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I actually want to eventually move off of Z-Wave

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security concerns mostly

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:54 AM

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What version CPUs @odd mason

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I want my system to eventually be 90%+ ZHA

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:54 AM

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@torpid spire dual E5-2660s

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:55 AM

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V1s?

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Yea

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Couldn't find v2s with a good price

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At least not with a decent amount of RAM

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:55 AM

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you could get a set of v2s separately

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Yeah the ram kills

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:56 AM

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@rapid plinth yea I'll upgrade of I feel it's necessary. I still think it's way Overkill for what I'll be running on them so it should be a good start as a first server

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:56 AM

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all 12th gen Dell servers got v2 support in a later firmware update

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:56 AM

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@torpid spire this one came with 192GB RAM. Hard to pass up

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:56 AM

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I have duual 2680s V2

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:57 AM

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I'm planning on eventually getting an R720 (non-XD because I have a DS4243 for storage and XDs are expensive) and dropping in some v2s

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:57 AM

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720s should be dropping

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Pretty soon

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Damn don't tell me that lol

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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ugh, super bad timing

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I'm getting laid off

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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That's what I bought

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Dells end of year just happened and they're selling 740s pretty cheaply

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I just bought 8 at work

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@torpid spire what's cheap?

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@rapid plinth sorry to hear that

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Enterprise cheap lol

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Lol so not cheap

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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I hope they do a T740 or a T940

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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I paid 840 and even that was a bit more than I wanted to spend

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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tower servers don't get enough love

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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But we are dumping a bunch of 720s and 730s/M630s

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Zha over z-wave for security concerns? Never heard that one before

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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@torpid spire u should send them to me

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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ooh, blades. For when your rackmount gear just isn't loud enough

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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And our Dell rep was saying they've been selling like hotcakes

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So we'll probably see a bunch of second hand shit hitting the market

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M1000e is 5,000 watts

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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@wet pilot zwave all the way... except motion sensors since I keep hearing xiaomi is super fast

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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@wet pilot there are known MitM/spoofing attacks against "legacy" Z-Wave without security class

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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LoL

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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@rapid plinth that's why u only buy zwave plus

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Eh, use plus only then

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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and I haven't had much luck finding quality Plus devices

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Doesn't make sense to buy legacy zwave

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@rapid plinth what kind of devices u looking for?

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:01 AM

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mainly high-current plugs

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I have a pair of Aeotec SS6s, but the reception was just crap on them

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Still need to pick something for sensors

odd mason Jan 31, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Hmm don't have any of those

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My switches are super solid though

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Zooz makes great zwave plus hardware

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Now that I look at my device list, the only devices that are a major concern are the Leviton plugs

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I wonder what the Lumina series appliance plugs cost right now

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oof, $60

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ooh, is that a ZHA thermostat they're offering?

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Now there's kind of a big deal

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Yes! Yes it is!

green inlet Jan 31, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Buy my thermostats

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Do the USB Zwave sticks work well, or do most people go through a bridge?

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:07 AM

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HUSBZB-1 and a nearby plug is the standard recommendation (mostly because you also get ZHA "for free")

green inlet Jan 31, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Or an Aeotec gen5 zwave stick

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Is the nerby plug to repeat the signal?

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Yeah. Not always necessary, but ZW is prone to reflections that cause all sorts of pain

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Interesting. Im currently running a smartthings hub with a bridge to HA. (I'm pretty new to HA)

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But I have a mix of Zigbee and Zwave sensors

green inlet Jan 31, 2019, 3:10 AM

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If you build a proper mesh, you really shouldn’t have any zwave problems.

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:10 AM

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You will definitely want the HUSBZB-1 then. You'll be able to move all your devices to direct control with one stick

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What sets that stick apart is you have an EZSP-type Zigbee radio (Bellows/Zigpy compatible so you can use the zha component) and a Z-Wave radio in a single stick. Everything you need to migrate most SmartThings/Iris/etc. systems

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Yeah i'm actually reading about that now

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Crazy little stick lol

rapid plinth Jan 31, 2019, 3:13 AM

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And to think Nortek was going to discontinue it, lol. (They went back on that and restarted production, and I'm still convinced Hass is directly responsible for that)

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I have a Z-Stick Gen 5 that I'm still using for my ZW devices, but that's because my system predates the existence of the zha component

torpid spire Jan 31, 2019, 3:16 AM

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It would be great to get rid of the hub

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I nuked the ST hub and hen just added the devices

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And let HA do all the logic

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Its a little janky though

odd fox Jan 31, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Hello, I'm brand new to Home-assistant. Not running just yet. I've got a server running Windows 7 that I'm working to get HA running in Docker. Wanted to stop in and say Hi.

green inlet Jan 31, 2019, 4:42 AM

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✌️

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Start reading the docs

odd fox Jan 31, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Oh yea, I've been poring through them everywhere. HA official docs, reddit, gitlab, HA forums. Figured I would add the Discord to my cache of information as well. Gut reaction is that this would probably be easiest for me to run HA via Docker in a VM with Ubuntu instead of Docker for Windows... But I'm a stubborn SOB and will spend a week or so without the Ubuntu VM

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 5:01 AM

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It'll mostly work, there are a few limitations though

last cradle Jan 31, 2019, 5:18 AM

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@quaint osprey did you cover something about checking your yaml in VSCode in your platformio /tasmota video?

odd fox Jan 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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@wet pilot, what limitations are the most prevalent or most painful?

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Something with networking if I remember correctly

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Might be confusing it with Mac though

unkempt night Jan 31, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Hey everyone!

low harness Jan 31, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Hi

unkempt night Jan 31, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Not sure if i just made a huge mistake, accidentally formatted my Raspberry PI and didn't backup my Homebridge files

clever mortar Jan 31, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Backup - noun - what you should have done yesterday

unkempt night Jan 31, 2019, 11:15 AM

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lol

viscid solar Jan 31, 2019, 1:32 PM

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You can't compare Docker and Kubernetes. Fight me.

vast dove Jan 31, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Ofc you can compare it, nobody said it would be a fair comparison 😄

viscid solar Jan 31, 2019, 2:07 PM

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What will you compare, their logos?

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maybe documentation or code quality

vast dove Jan 31, 2019, 2:09 PM

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i dunno, some people compare apple and oranges. Does not mean it makes any sense.

viscid solar Jan 31, 2019, 2:10 PM

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i can compare apples and oranges all day

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bad example 😄

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Docker Swarm vs K8s is a better comparison

unreal orbit Jan 31, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Well fuck me. Looks like my connection issues are caused by my new power strip causing too much interference for my wifi

wet pilot Jan 31, 2019, 4:18 PM

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huh, awesome

hearty depot Jan 31, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Mhmm.. I think i screwed up something.. load15 5,75..

clever mortar Jan 31, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Well, there goes Iris... https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/alr36r/iris_shutting_down/

eager crest Jan 31, 2019, 7:18 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/531063773767663638/533978558268440587/ezgif-2-b040dfaedf02.gif

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https://imgur.com/ZongzIf

Imgur

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i love this

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xd

clever mortar Jan 31, 2019, 8:35 PM

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#330990055533576204 @grim notch

grim notch Jan 31, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Ok will do

odd mason Feb 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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@rapid plinth where's the big announcement?

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📎 image0.jpg

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 12:27 AM

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I talked about it in #330944238910963714 but https://www.irisbylowes.com/support?guideTitle=Iris-intends-to-release-Open-Source-Smart-Home-software-as-“Arcus”&guideId=b5a9c492-3036-47be-a0d4-c9c4114c7158

Iris by Lowe’s

Iris Support

Help & Resources for Your Iris Smart Home

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https://github.com/arcus-smart-home << watch this space

GitHub

Arcus Smart Home

GitHub is where Arcus Smart Home builds software.

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I'm not part of this team but was told about it in advance. Blew my mind a little.

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thanks for the reminder btw 😃

odd mason Feb 1, 2019, 12:57 AM

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This http://www.arcussmarthome.nl/ ?

Arcus Smarthome

rcssmrthm_adm

Home - Arcus Smarthome

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 12:58 AM

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oh that's interesting

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but Lowes is headquartered in NC, and the original Iris was just a rebrand of AlertMe's eponymous system; AlertMe was a UK company before their buyout by British Gas

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so, that may create some legal issues....

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For the sake of being complete: the "by Lowes" second gen system was developed in-house by a hastily assembled team. Lowes was (still is) completely out of their element so it's impressive the system worked at all. (That's also the main reason they want to get rid of Iris)

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It's often speculated that the buyout triggered a sudden souring of the contract with Lowes, leaving the latter with a bunch of customers that would be up shit creek, and due to the branding, they'd be blaming Lowes directly

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So in response, they scrambled to make a "new" Iris system and not lose those customers

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That makes the recent developments very ironic

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:05 AM

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the iris controller is a beagleboard black

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custom pcb

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:05 AM

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well, that's not the whole story

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It's actually a recased Centralite hub, not the Jilia but a precursor

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It's based on the Beaglebone but with notable omissions and additions

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:06 AM

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they figured that nobody would be able to log in to it so they didn't even bother renaming the message of the day

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i broke into that damn thing a year or 2 ago

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:07 AM

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did you actually get root access?

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:07 AM

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yup

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Okay I want details

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:08 AM

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but i didn t persue it further

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i think i trashed that thing shortly after there was no interest

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:08 AM

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I have a second gen hub here and I've been wanting to have fun with it

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by the way https://centralite.com/sites/default/files/Hub_Back.png look familiar?

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:08 AM

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i'd have to see if i still got my old notes somewhere

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it was fairly easy to get in

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:09 AM

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I've been wanting to cook up a CFW for it based on Hass.io

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it has so much potential due to the particular hardware they used

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it'd run Hass better than an RPi can, and it has 100% compatible radios already on the board

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the Zigbee radio is an EZSP type, Bellows is already equipped to talk to it, no new code needed

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:10 AM

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like i said i abandoned it years ago due to no interest

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only thing that i kept where the zigbee motion sensors

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:11 AM

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"no interest" my fat snarf, you should've documented your findings, there's a lot of people that would LOVE to have an in

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:11 AM

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yeah now

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Even then

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:11 AM

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back then not so much

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:11 AM

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it would make an amazing Hass.io box

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seriously, try to dig that up

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:12 AM

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it don t have that much ram and very limited storage

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:12 AM

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It's got a lot more than a Pi IIRC

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:12 AM

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i think storage was pretty much full with whatever they put on

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:12 AM

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4GB RAM 4GB ROM

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USB

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That's a ton of potential

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:13 AM

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i guess

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i definately don t have the box no more

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:13 AM

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It's not like we're gonna run desktop Ubuntu on it

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:13 AM

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ima look for it maybe i stil have it

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:13 AM

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please! That would be huge

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:14 AM

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it did require jtagging it though

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i had to read the memory if i remember right

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:14 AM

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That's okay, I'm familiar with JTAG, I played with it back in the Xbox 360 days

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:15 AM

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and the root pw was actually in plain sight lol

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:15 AM

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once you have root access, that really blows the top off it. You can dump the entire ROM, which tells you a lot, like how the bootchain is configured

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:15 AM

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they might have patched that already so i duno

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i think boot was fairly simple and even human readable

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:16 AM

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What I want to know is if they have any kind of secure boot configuration

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:16 AM

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but that was when they just brought the gen 2 out

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not back then now i dunno i'm sure they improoved security

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:17 AM

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It's not really something you can configure after the fact on ARM, far as I know

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so, if boot is totally unsecured, Hass.io is totally a go

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:17 AM

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me and @peak cloud talked about it back then dunno if he remembers anything

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i'm sure they fixed that they had about 2 years

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:18 AM

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you give them too much credit 😛

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Remember, this is a hardware store chain that hadn't touched software before Iris

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:18 AM

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oh they always been right on it securing their hardware so nobody can repurpose it or make it better

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:18 AM

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maybe the round "WiFi hubs" have better security

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:19 AM

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lol

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:19 AM

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primarily because, different hardware partner, presumably different hardware

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hell, I have one of both, maybe I'll tear it open

dry cairn Feb 1, 2019, 1:19 AM

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i know it was a pain in the ass to map the pins

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:22 AM

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I'm preparing to rip open my WiFi hub right now

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wow, this is a very different beast

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two PCBs in here

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Correction, three

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I see antenna connectors

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None of that big PCB traces trash

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I think I see a JTAG header

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unfortunately it looks like the main SoC is under an RF shield

peak cloud Feb 1, 2019, 1:38 AM

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@dry cairn what did we talk about?

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 1:40 AM

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getting root on an Iris hub

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I want to see if I can reflash one with a custom kernel, maybe port Hass.io

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Continuing my exploratory surgery... I've found multiple markings referring to NFC

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This is one very interesting little device

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okay I think I've dug as far as I'm willing to go. I'm not one for cutting up or desoldering RF shields

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nextcloud app is being a little snarf and won't upload my pictures

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I guess I'll just use MTP for now

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 1:54 AM

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https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/31/lowes-is-killing-off-and-bricking-its-iris-smart-home-products-at-the-end-of-march/

TechCrunch

Greg Kumparak

Lowe’s is killing off and bricking its Iris smart home products ...

If you’ve got any gear from Lowe’s Iris line of smart home products, it’s time to start looking for alternatives. Lowe’s has announced that the line is toast, with plans to flip the switch on “the platform and related services” at the end of March. In other words…

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 2:05 AM

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That's just wrong, nothing is getting bricked

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In fact, we're actively working with other companies to get as much stuff as possible working on other platforms. SmartThings should even get support for first gen devices later this year

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anyway

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WiFi hub teardown pics https://imgur.com/a/j05aAVg

Imgur

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I took legible closeups of every visible IC, I'll be transcribing those shortly

last cradle Feb 1, 2019, 2:39 AM

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most importantly, how much are they discounted?

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Not. They're on "stop sale"

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Not available for purchase anymore

last cradle Feb 1, 2019, 2:46 AM

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damn

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Updated the above link with IC markings

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 3:22 AM

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What are the odds that J12 is a JTAG header? 😛

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 4:48 AM

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@rapid plinth I don't have SmartThings hub but with the discontinuation of Iris products, can Iris products now work with Wink hub? or Anyone working on that?

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 4:49 AM

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All Zigbee HA (it must be HA, not first gen) and Z-Wave devices of a type Wink supports should work

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by "type" I mean plugs, contact sensors, etc

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Couple of years back I bought garage door controller (Linear) from Lowes and tried to connect that to Wink hub but that did not work. Later I gave up on that integration.

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that was Zigbee compatible

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 4:50 AM

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Only Linear GDC I know of is Z-Wave

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For what it's worth, the Iris GDC is just a rebranded Linear/Nortek

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 4:51 AM

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yeah..that's what I figured out later

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What was 'arcus-smart-home'?

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Lowes is open-sourcing Iris

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I don't know at this time what all will be included

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 4:53 AM

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wow..that's news to me 👍

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 4:53 AM

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But under a different name... I assume they want to keep the Iris trademark for whatever reason

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 4:58 AM

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I just found manual/sheet from Lowe's garage controller with Tilt sensor..it's GDOOZ-1 (from Linear)

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 4:58 AM

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yup. Literally just silkscreened a different logo on the front of it

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no other difference

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 5:00 AM

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there is no Zigbee or ZWave logo on the box,,only it says requires 'Iris smart hub'. At that time I had only Wink hub so I tried to integrate with that and that didn't work.

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Then I got lazy and completely forgot about it. Later I tried to return that but it was past 90 days.. :bummer:

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Does Wink actually support Z-Wave GDCs? It's their own, separate command class so not a lot of systems support it

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Not sure..I was told it could work with Wink hub so I tried that route

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I just checked Wink app it shows all the brands including 'Iris'..but GDC was not one of the products in the list (contact sensor, motion sensor, smart plug, water sensor)

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 5:05 AM

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We're working with everyone we can to get as many devices supported by as many systems as possible... though that's the official line. It sounds like we're mostly focused on SmartThings

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 5:05 AM

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But there is 'Go Control' product and in that it shows GDC

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 5:05 AM

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But, the bulk of the Iris stuff is plain old Zigbee HA

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 5:05 AM

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I was not sure which product that I used from Wink hub to integrate Iris GDC (Linear). Its two years back

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 5:05 AM

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GoControl, Linear, Nortek, same company, different names

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I don't know why, but yeah

valid pollen Feb 1, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Thank you @rapid plinth I will stay tuned for updates from Arcus Smart Home

rapid plinth Feb 1, 2019, 5:07 AM

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np 😃

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I'm excited to see what development actually releases

unreal orbit Feb 1, 2019, 6:22 AM

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So it wasn't the new power strip that was causing the wifi interference. It was a pi zero I had set up with a bluetooth monitoring script. It was causing every single wifi device on my network to drop packets constantly. Such a shame. It was the most consistent presence detector I've used so far.

eager crest Feb 1, 2019, 7:30 PM

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anyone wants to play minesweeper?

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wet pilot Feb 1, 2019, 7:35 PM

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O_O

shy comet Feb 1, 2019, 8:18 PM

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haha great use of the spoiler tag

low harness Feb 1, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Bottom row. Fifth from the right... that can’t be correct...

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Well... something is off. But Awesome none the less

last plaza Feb 1, 2019, 11:18 PM

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@velvet horizon can use these spoiler tags!

young sigil Feb 1, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Forum server is down.

unreal orbit Feb 1, 2019, 11:28 PM

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#status

eager trench Feb 1, 2019, 11:38 PM

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the #status is wrong.. it's still down

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 12:39 AM

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I can access forums without any problems!

eager trench Feb 2, 2019, 1:41 AM

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well you can NOW

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 1:51 AM

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anyone know how to change the string that appears on the tab for home-assistant web site? I have multiple, but they all have the same name "Home Assistant" and the same icon; would be awesome if there was a way to configure for various sites (maybe it's a theme)

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 1:51 AM

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@polar sapphire if you are using lovelace, you can change the title

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 1:52 AM

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ah, thank you! that's a good addition; but was hoping there would be something I could change under http:

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or frontend

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 1:56 AM

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@polar sapphire if you change the title, it displays as

📎 unknown.png

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instead of default "Home Assistant"

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 1:57 AM

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+1

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tab go red?

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LOL

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 1:57 AM

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red and black is the theme I use at night

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during day time, it uses default blue theme

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https://github.com/skalavala/smarthome/blob/master/packages/frontend_themes.yaml#L73

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I like it; I have not done much w/ frontend; some graphs; did get notifications sent to my iphone, so that's cool (gotta have the iOS app)

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oooh; that's a lot! https://github.com/dcmartin/age-at-home/blob/master/hass/config/automation.yaml

GitHub

dcmartin/age-at-home

AgeAtHome server code (CF-JS application; CGI & utility scripts) - dcmartin/age-at-home

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the internet slow and fast are pretty cool; speedtest CLI is already installed; so is iperf3 for testing on the LAN

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I have been building some addons github.com/dcmartin/hassio-addons for various purposes; the motion one is getting close to being useful to others 😃

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:02 AM

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question is what do you do if the internet is slow or fast?

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 2:02 AM

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I put up a persistent notification on the home page

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:02 AM

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stop downloads?

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 2:02 AM

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oh, no; sometimes reboot the router; sometimes reboot the modem

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:02 AM

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if you are using downloader, and if it is slowing down your internet and want to watch streaming video (netflix...etc), you can stop downloads

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Haven't seen that; is it an addon

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?

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:04 AM

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it is useful if you are using nzbget sensor in combination with internet speed and your streaming video

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I did the AgeAtHome POC using resin.io; then I found HA

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:04 AM

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ok

polar sapphire Feb 2, 2019, 2:04 AM

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i have a microtik router; i can control flows on it; needs a more full-featured integration

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I do more with webcameras; have dogs and property and they run and bark and make my wife ask me "what's that all about?" and now, w/ HA and the motion addon (and some hand-holding and some manual plumbing and such whatnot), I can turn to my phone and HA and see all the cameras and where the last motion detection and movement was

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:09 AM

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cool!

odd mason Feb 2, 2019, 2:19 AM

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unboxed my server today finally

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my wife is like "why do you need to move it downstairs? just connect it to wifi"

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lol

last plaza Feb 2, 2019, 2:22 AM

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@odd mason your wife is smarter than you! follow her advise!

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😂

quartz ether Feb 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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What kind of server did you get? I know I would get shot if I moved mine into the house. But I also would never use them over wifi... that would be the worse.

odd mason Feb 2, 2019, 3:29 AM

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@quartz ether r720 with dual E5-2660s, 192GB ram and a bunch of 10K HDs

cursive nimbus Feb 2, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Hey all - just a shot in the dark...anyone here using Untagle router?

quartz ether Feb 2, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Similar spec to one of mine v1 or 2 cpus?

plucky lily Feb 2, 2019, 4:08 PM

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is there a home assistant theme demo so that i don't have to reload ha each time i want to edit my theme, or is there a easier way to reload theme than full restart

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i'm making my own theme

clever mortar Feb 2, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Well, you're asking in the wrong channel 😉

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/frontend/#theme-automation however explains what you need to know

plucky lily Feb 2, 2019, 4:18 PM

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ah sorry, and thanks, i found that just now

odd mason Feb 2, 2019, 6:21 PM

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@quartz ether v1. the server with the v2 was like 400 more

spark sage Feb 2, 2019, 7:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/slow-clap-gif-4672427

Tenor

slow clap

▶ Play video

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Many thanks to the devs and all who have laid out a wonderful system for us users.
I'm constantly amazed at the usability, documentation, intuitiveness, and simplicity of an increasingly complex system.
Hats off to you guys.

quartz ether Feb 2, 2019, 11:24 PM

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V2’s much better though :P. @odd mason

odd mason Feb 2, 2019, 11:25 PM

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I'm sure @quartz ether but for my first server it wasn't worth it

quiet cobalt Feb 2, 2019, 11:26 PM

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fzakfeldToday at 9:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxz5NeOqYyk

YouTube

MK-SmartHouse

Giveaway Winners! IP Cameras! Power strip... Thermostat! Wifi Switch!

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quartz ether Feb 2, 2019, 11:27 PM

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@odd mason check out www.serverbuilds.net

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@quiet cobalt are you MK?

quiet cobalt Feb 2, 2019, 11:41 PM

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no but been with him the long time

quartz ether Feb 3, 2019, 12:24 AM

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I have a few of his blind kits. Nice little unit. He does need to update his shit more regularly though and make more stuffs

dusk mason Feb 3, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Anyone here have a phillips hue motion sensor?

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Anyone good at Linux here? I just bought a new SSD so I could dual boot Linux on my PC for like more privacy (Windows collect a lot of info I hear) but not sure on what distro to try out. I understand that Ubuntu is the noob friendliest but I hear Debian is a good privacy option. I want to use it as my daily browsing driver and Windows for just gaming. Any ideas?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Anything based on Debian, or Debian itself, is a good choice IMO

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That then includes Ubuntu, Mint, and many more

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IMO, use the live CD/DVD options for the ones you're interested in, try them out, see which you prefer

orchid rose Feb 3, 2019, 1:30 PM

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and when it comes to privacy, the browser makes a difference as well ofc, not just the OS. You can disable the Windows spying stuff with some tool though if you wish as well

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:30 PM

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PiHole is a good starting point for improving your privacy 😉

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:31 PM

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@orchid rose I want to try Linux as well, learning new stuff. 😃 But I'm total noob, just making my Raspberry work as intended has ben a... project!

orchid rose Feb 3, 2019, 1:32 PM

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I'm not saying you shouldn't, but also you should think about disabling the Windows stuff anyway 😛

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Learn Linux in a VM, so you can trivially revert it when you break it

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Then when you're comfortable, go for dual boot

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I'm using Brave as browser now days, startpage as search engine, Protonmail as mail. Having fun trying to be private from the likes of Google, Windows, Apple etc

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@clever mortar Good idea if I knew how to do that hehe. You know I'm not the most technically gifted but I like to learn a lot.

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Download Virtualbox

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Download ISO for OS of choice

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Go

orchid rose Feb 3, 2019, 1:35 PM

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VM just means Virtual Machine. Basically you just run an OS within an OS

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Awesome!

orchid rose Feb 3, 2019, 1:35 PM

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the downside is that when your windows decides to crash they both crash 😛

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:35 PM

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That only happens on days ending in y

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Not that often 😛

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Is that something like what docker does or am I far from understanding it?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Not quite

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A VM allows you to run any OS inside any other

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Docker allows you to run something compatible

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There's ways of working around that, somewhat, but it's not as easy

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Okay, hmm. I guess I somewhat understand. My dream would be having a device that could like run a cloud service for me, running Hass, and like other services to regain some control over information.

I'm not that paranoid about my privacy but there is something in me that does not want to be a part of the advertisement based on information that allow it to "manipulate" me to consume for the sake of consumption. If that makes any sense.

I'm not naitive English speaking so this might come out wierd 😛

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:43 PM

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You can certainly do that, it's "just" a bit of learning

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Yeah and I figure a lot of it has to do with understanding the likes of Linux. So I guess that's where I start 😃

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:45 PM

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A good starting point, and make sure you've got a system you can use to mess about with

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Then you won't be afraid to try new things and break stuff

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~backup

velvet horizonBOT Feb 3, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Be sure to regularly, automatically, back up your Home Assistant install. There are various critical files and configuration options (like the Z-Wave network key), plus all your time. Hass.io has snapshots, and for unix type installs see https://blog.ceard.tech/2017/10/backing-up-home-assistant.html. Oh, and most important of all test your ability to restore regularly.

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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~backups

velvet horizonBOT Feb 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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You should automate, outside of Home Assistant, taking backups of your configuration, multiple times per day, using a tool that will track and store different versions, as well as creating a bootable backup if you're using a Raspberry Pi series computer. Options include rpi-clone (for bootable backups), rsnapshot (for backups within your home network), and rclone (for online backups).

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I'm donwloading the VirtualBox now. Is it a bad idea to try install Linux on a seperate drive and play with it there? I mean if I break it I could just delete and restart?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 1:47 PM

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A virtual machine allows you to take snapshots, so you can instantly recover from things

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For learning, it's much better than dual boot

prime pelican Feb 3, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Okay, thanks a lot!

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Arh sorry, we can take it here @clever mortar

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:20 PM

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So, you've found the log, and found the problem

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Generally you'll be wanting to run rsnapshot as root

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Is that set in the rsnapshot.conf ?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:22 PM

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That's the user you run it as, it's not a setting

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Hmm

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alright, I guess I have just run it as the pi user then

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Is there an easy way to check?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:28 PM

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No

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You run it as the root user

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:31 PM

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hmm ok

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Sorry, I have no idea what to do then. If I am already running it as root, why is it not writable then?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:42 PM

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You're sure you're running it as root?

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I just used what you outlined in your blog really. SSH

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:42 PM

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And, is the file system you're backing up to local

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:42 PM

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No sorry, I thought you implied that I was running it as root

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yes it is local

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:43 PM

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No, I'm telling you that you have to run rsnapshot as root

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:43 PM

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oh

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I just SSH'ed to my Hassbian with the pi user, ran "sudo apt-get install rsnapshot", inserted a USB stick, ran "sudo parted /dev/sda", removed the partition on the stick and did "mkpart primary 2048s 100%". Then I did "sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1" and added the partition to /etc/fstab as /backup ext4. Then I created the snapshots subdirectory, changed the rsnapshot.conf as you describe and same for the /etc/cron.d/rsnapshot

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I'm sorry, but I honestly don't know what user I am running it as, or how to change/see that

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:49 PM

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sudo will run it as root

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:50 PM

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so, as I installed it with sudo, it is effectively running as root?

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:51 PM

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No

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It runs as whatever user you run it as

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Type id, then sudo id

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One will show you your current user, the second root

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Because when you call a command like that, you run it as root

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:53 PM

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ok, well I never actually ran anything, I basically only followed the guide point by point. I assumed that the cron part would make it run as root on the set times

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:53 PM

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It will

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Oh wait, you're refering to the configtest I did? One moment

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Oh, yeah, that gives me another response with sudo..

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:54 PM

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The config test will fail if you don't run it as root

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:54 PM

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ERROR: /etc/rsnapshot.conf on line 231:
ERROR: backup /home/homeassistant localhost/

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Is that using tabs, not spaces?

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I'm so dumb.. No it was not

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I THOUGHT I was very careful to follow that.. But seems I was not

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Thank you, now "Syntax OK"

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Now there's only left to know the cron.d is right I guess, then it should populate the folder and log I assume. I am wondering why there is a red part in the file. Does this look right @clever mortar https://i.imgur.com/TzBwWwV.png

Imgur

clever mortar Feb 3, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Why it's red, don't know, shouldn't matter though

noble slate Feb 3, 2019, 9:53 PM

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If I had a question about a specific component, what channel should I ask that in? #330944238910963714 ?

unreal orbit Feb 3, 2019, 9:54 PM

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That is probably the most appropriate channel, yes

gusty umbra Feb 3, 2019, 10:29 PM

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@clever mortar it worked, first backup is taken, successful message in log and files are populating. Appreciate your help.

velvet horizonBOT Feb 3, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 47m 8s with a message :point_right: You do not make history. You can only hope to survive it.

rain swift Feb 3, 2019, 10:36 PM

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anyone know about getting dhcp to renew in ubuntu 18.04? they seem to have changed things.

rapid musk Feb 3, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Anyone as old as me and recall 8 bit computing in the 80's?

rain swift Feb 3, 2019, 10:46 PM

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nope

rapid musk Feb 3, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Came across an Atari 800 64K in my storage. Bet its worth some bucks

dry cairn Feb 3, 2019, 11:30 PM

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maybe if its in original box unopened

rain swift Feb 3, 2019, 11:33 PM

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for anyone that wonders

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you can just do dhclient -r ens33 for example to release the IP then dhclient ens33 to pull a new one

unreal orbit Feb 4, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Relying on dhcp to give out addresses to static devices 😧

rain swift Feb 4, 2019, 12:34 AM

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for now

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til I figure out the crap they changed to

forest charm Feb 4, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Hey guys does anyone here have automations to throw video/music onto their tv? I have kodi but im not sure i can throw it a video stream from media_extractor?

mild cloak Feb 4, 2019, 4:14 AM

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@forest charm here's one from my screensaver thing i have, this is for chromecast but probably the same for others.

      - service: media_extractor.play_media
        data_template:
          entity_id: media_player.living_room_chromecast
          media_content_id: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVkK36KOcqs
          media_content_type: video/youtube

forest charm Feb 4, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Yeah i just dont wanna buy a chrome cast =(

mild cloak Feb 4, 2019, 4:17 AM

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could probably find real cheap ones on eBay or something but yea

pliant forge Feb 4, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Not sure if I like the upcoming inovelli zwave switches. https://inovelli.com/shop/smart-light-switches/pre-order-z-wave-dimmer-switch-no-neutral-required-scenes-notifications/

Inovelli

Inovelli Non-Neutral Dimmer w/Scenes and RGB LED | Inovelli

Inovelli's dimmer does not require a neutral wire to work and can add up to 22 different scenes in addition to having an RGB LED that notifies you of events.

normal ferry Feb 4, 2019, 12:20 PM

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hey just curious if anyone knows.

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zigbee is supposed to be working in a mesh configuration - at least as far as I 've studied on google

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is the xiaomi ecosystem using its zigbee products in a mesh configuration?

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or they're more like 'client-server' ?

proven spruce Feb 4, 2019, 12:21 PM

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xiaomi's don't mesh together, only the plug serves as an extender

normal ferry Feb 4, 2019, 3:34 PM

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@proven spruce when you say plug you mean the electrical zigbee plug ?

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that you put electrical devices on ?

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:54 PM

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@last plaza : https://unsee.cc/708a70c4/

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night vision is amazing. the pic is small because it's a screenshot of my phone but i'm VERY impressed with the night vision quality

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 3:54 PM

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@odd mason that is awesome!!!

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what's the QR code for?

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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looks like that's added by unsee

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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and is that your IP address on it? 🤔

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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not in my pic

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no it's YOUR ip address

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 3:56 PM

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LOL - it can't be!

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:56 PM

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unsee is a private image sharing site that watermarks the pics with the ip address of the person viewing it

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so if they were to share it you would know who shared the pic

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i've been using it a lot over imgur

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and i like it automatically deletes it after a set amount of time

last plaza Feb 4, 2019, 3:57 PM

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oh wow! I can still spoof using VPN

odd mason Feb 4, 2019, 3:57 PM

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for sure

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at least until i get my server up and running this seems like a good compromise

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i need to power wash my back patio

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lol