oh.. wow. yea. this is off topic.
#the-water-cooler
idle coyote
clever mortar
A large percentage of the posts in this server are off topic 😃
A bit of off topic is fine
dull chasm
do i fully cook bacon before adding to the potato soup or mostly cook and let it cook the rest of the way in the soup @clever mortar
clever mortar
Cook the bacon. Eat the bacon. Then realise you should have made the soup 😉
dull chasm
lol
light trout
🤣
wispy wharf
no no no you cook extra bacon so you can eat some while the soup is cooking
clever mortar
Cook bacon. Eat bacon while making soup. Cook more bacon for the soup. Realise the dog ate the soup?
wispy wharf
ABCB = always be cooking bacon
brazen tusk
hello
native lily
hey there
brazen tusk
So I have been searching and searching and I can not access the hassio web interface
Any other suggestions?
clever mortar
Read the channel topics and names @brazen tusk 😉
clever mortar
The right place to ask about Hass.io itself (not Home Assistant) would be #330990055533576204 😉
smoky wyvern
sooo how many dutch citizens are in here?
wraith onyx
?rank other
slim rampartBOT
That role no longer exists.
wet pilot
@wraith onyx that step has been removed. The channels are open for everyone now
wraith onyx
Thanks. Just following the instructions from the bot. 😁
wet pilot
Yeah, it was a recent change
midnight adder
hey, i have a ftp server setip, but get errors: ftp authority server limits. I can only access the folder from iphone app ftp. Why I can not access it from mac or camera ftp settings?
sterile canyon
Hello all, moved to home assistant from domoticz few weeks a go, looks very nice 😃 Lots to learn tho
yaml was new world to me, as im not a programmer of any kind 😄
have set up my devices and learning lovelace atm 😃
viscid hazel
anyone have experience with grafana? I'd like to take point-in-time measurements of rainfall intensity (inches per hour) and convert to inches by either integrating or estimating based on time. Feels like it should be possible, but I'm kind of drawing a blank
sick prairie
Meta question for mods: I'm running a public discord server (for ESPHome project) and am getting these bots posting inappropriate content i.e. "come join my dating sex chat server" pretty much daily now - as a discord noob, what's the best way to deal with that? Are there plugins out there that auto-remove that content?
clever mortar
We have those too
We just have a big enough mod community that we can play whack a mole
sick prairie
@clever mortar Ok, thanks!
clever mortar
There probably are ways of dealing with those though
sick prairie
Seems weird discord's not doing anything against that. It's probably not too hard to filter out that content with modern technologies
clever mortar
Well, given how often that one URL has been reported... you'd think not
I suspect they're not paying attention, and reporting individual messages requires lots of details like the channel ID, the server ID, and so on - AKA a major PITA
sick prairie
About that last part "eporting individual messages requires lots of details" - at least for me when I press the "delete" button I get an interface where I can also have it reported to them automatically. Is that a new feature?
Anyway, I'll keep looking or if I don't find anything just play whack'a'mole :P
odd hill
good lord wireguard is amazing.
i've touched me a decent amount of VPNs, and holy shit this was hands down the fastest and easiest setup.
clever mortar
I had a quick play with it the other week, setting up the client is a lot harder than with OpenVPN
odd hill
bullshit
clever mortar
Waiting for the "here's where the server gives you the client config file" to back up your language 😉
odd hill
...you...you want me to like give you my script?
clever mortar
On OpenVPN the server can generate the client config file, import and done
None of the Wireguard writeups showed anything similar
odd hill
because...its pretty fuckin' short.
clever mortar
If only they'd publish something useful then - because even the official docs were underwhelming
velvet horizonBOT
Please follow the rules, @odd hill! You have 5 warning(s) left. You posted a message/code that is more than 15 lines. It is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VbbpkRthP/
odd hill
ugh
clever mortar
Most of the guides were great for system to system, but not mobile to system
Cheers though, I'll look at that
odd hill
set the vars as required, but that's what i threw together yesterday my first go around.
i generate the keys to ~/.wgkeys
clever mortar
I'm spoiled by how easy OpenVPN makes it I suppose - but it is a lot more mature overall
odd hill
clients is an array
clever mortar
Wireguard looks very nice though, so I do want a proper play at some point
odd hill
calling openVPN easy is like saying steven hawking was retarded.
it's easy when you're just the client and you're connecting to a server that you have a config for.
go try to set up client/server from scratch.
clever mortar
I've been using it for years and years now - it's easy 😉
And wrappers like PiVPN make it utterly painless
odd hill
or try to reverse engineer what your router set on your behalf for the site to site...
ok...here...let me drop the mic then.
clever mortar
And that's why I'm interested 😉
clever mortar
Not that my home broadband is anything like fast enough for it to matter...
Thanks though, when I've got a slice of free time I'll have another shot 😄
odd hill
you're not wrong though. their documentation is...lacking. i think they're assuming that most people were in their brains while they were developing. but there's a lot on google. i mean it's basically swapping keys and IPs and the clients set an endpoint for the "server". done.
well...and the iptables on the server side...
clever mortar
I probably got lost because most of what I found was computer <> computer, and I was using an Android phone
And got into the "ffs, this shouldn't be that hard" mindset 🤦
odd hill
but the thing that really twisted my nipple was that i couldn't get cellular VPN working on my pixel2 with my USG, and with wireguard, it didn't even blink.
dude. that's literally my use case.
clever mortar
Well, I know what I'm doing next weekend then 👍
odd hill
and that snippet i posted? you can import that into the wireguard android client.
clever mortar
Sweet!
odd hill
the output...
clever mortar
Yeah, I guessed 😉
clever mortar
I'm crazy, (mostly) not stupid 😛
odd hill
tossed the output on dropbox...went to import from wireguard...bam. it populated all the fields and connected.
i was like...nofuckingway.
clever mortar
Nice, I was doing it the hard way - by hand, which may not have helped
odd hill
yeah...don't trust your hands.
clever mortar
I usually don't 😛
odd hill
those keys ain't THAT long, but they're long enough. then you sprinkle some mild dyslexia on top of that, and nope.
austere lily
Anyone having any issues linking services in the Google home Android app today?
I'm trying to link the Nest service and it's failing. To test, I unlinked an existing service that I have and tried to relink it, it's failing too. No error messages.
Refreshing/restarting the app hasn't helped.
orchid rose
there were a couple of people reporting issues with google assistant integration earlier. Not sure if it's related and it doesn't seem to affect my setup...
austere lily
so, if anyone runs into this same problem, i got around it by putting my google account on a 2nd device, getting into the google home app then linking services that way.
blah
thick crypt
Question about git
What is the best way to get an adjustment done on the remote to the local?
And so that only the specific file will be adapted on the local. Not that I lose files because they do not occur in the remote.
honest geode
@slim vortex Thanks for the great vids on youtube 😃
quartz ether
Anyone here know much about unraid?
honest geode
@quartz ether Some. What's the issue?
mighty summit
Home Assistant 0.85.1 is available
Ooohhh , shiny
slim vortex
You are welcome @honest geode
wet pilot
@thick crypt bash git stash git pull git stash apply
brisk furnace
if I have two raspberry pis and one has hassio setup with letsencrypt and 1.duckdns.org / https running perfectly, and the second I setup nginx server, can I point nginx to hassio with https still or do I need to disable https on the hassio box and have http between the two?
only reason I ask is I want to self-host bitwarden on the second pi and access it externally. I could 1) VPN into my network if I ever need to update passwords etc, or 2) setup NGINX and point it to bitwarden subdomain and hassio, and only open the 1 port on my router to nginx
but don't want to mess with the hassio box now that it's working wonderfully lol
green inlet
@dry cairn , did I see you post something about running an Odroid off a hard drive ?
merry hearth
anyone other dutch people that experiences mac adress changes from the horizon box in dhcp?
hearty depot
Aaaww - F. Deam neat - I finaly got my 2011 macbook pro working with ubuntu (would have prefered esix but well.. Cant have all)
Now I wish me a hassbian like enviroment
hardy canopy
Anyone have experience with the monoprice z-wave door sensors? Are they a good deal or do they have issues?
pure vine
@merry hearth is it only happening on Mobile devices
merry hearth
@sick granite how you mean?
sick granite
pure vine
@merry hearth are the mac address changes happing for mobile devices, Both android and IOS randomise mac addresses now
quartz ether
@honest geode UnRaid and most of the dockers are not accessible via adddres.duckdns.org but work if I use wan IP, Everything else works (home assistant etc) which are not on the unraid. Makes me think it is an UnRaid issue but then NextCloud docker does work.
vapid crow
Hi guys.
I got a strange problem with my neato botvac. Since some time I cannot read its battery....
vast dove
@quartz ether You exposing trough nginx or something else?
quartz ether
Nothing. Just router port forwarded to dockers
vast dove
and you are forwarding to the unraid IP with the correct exposed docker port?
quartz ether
Yea. Like if I use my ip:port instead of duckdns:port it works fine. So the port forwarding is fine. And if I go duckdns:443/states I can get my hass setup so duckdns is forwarding correctly
DNS on the unraid network settings is set to 8.8.8.8
vast dove
what network mode are you using for your dockers?
quartz ether
Bridge
vast dove
so blabla.duckdns.org:4321 is then forwarded to unraid-ip:dockerport and that does not work?
quartz ether
Nope. But WANIP:4321 works
vast dove
Does not make any sense
vast dove
Does pinging blabla.duckdns.org resolve to your wan ip?
quartz ether
Yup
strange vapor
Looking at options for the color Philips Hue GU10. Anyone have any experience with the Loft Lid? https://www.irishwire.com/merchant-product/loft-lid
wet pilot
I think they're trying to work on the services side so the copyright pukes don't turn on them like kodi
static prawn
They seem to hell-bent on expanding
Which requires revenue
Which requires "tie ins"
Ugh
How long before they stick an ad Infront of my content
dry cairn
👆
brazen sand
anyone mounted dht22 across their home, wondering how/if at all you made it not stand out.
keen shuttle
@brazen sand I just usually throw one on any board I am making with an ESP8266. In other words, i never put it there just to measure temp/humidity - but rather, I always add one to every (most) project. So they are always in a little box with a Wemos D1 Mini that's doing something else already (garage door controller, LED strip control, etc.)
brazen sand
@keen shuttle my thoughts exactly however i want to have them situated in every room, thinking of paring each sonoff (embeded within my switch plate/box) with a dht22, however i am looking to retain appeal across the home and not have it stand out.
keen shuttle
yeah, that's hard to do - mine are usually hidden (under the tv, in a cabinet, etc.)
wispy wharf
@wet pilot @static prawn I missed the Plex talk before. I havent noticed any issue with it recently through I did just notice it's missing from my HA. (I mostly just cast from my phone)
static prawn
:)
wispy wharf
I do agree they keep adding features that I'm willing to bet 99% of the lifetime pass people don't want
Through do either of you use tautulli component and have any interesting automations or uis for it?
wet pilot
Haven't added it yet
rare plover
Think 'hide in plain sight' @brazen sand .. you have some decorative object in each room you could modify to accommodate?
brazen sand
makes sense, i was thinking of utilizing the current light switch wall plate but some are saying thats not a good idea
@rare plover
honest geode
@quartz ether Did you get your unraid issue resolved?
quartz ether
Nope
honest geode
If it works using the IP but not the duckdns address, then I would say it's a duckdns issue
quartz ether
I installed a second network card (for the 10gb link) so I think its that.
Duckdns works for hass. sooo really shouldnt be any issues there or it would effect everything
honest geode
Same address just different port?
quartz ether
1gb network link is 10.1.1.115
10gb plex link is 10.1.2.115
honest geode
I meant the duckdns address - is that the same for both hass and plex, but different ports? Or different addresses?
quartz ether
Yup.
Unifi controller, Hass and nextcloud docker on unraid all work from duckdns,
UnRaid and all dockers (except nextcloud) dont work with duckdns but do work with direct IP
I have to stop the array tomorrow to add another harddrive so I will do some playing around then.
honest geode
Have you done any forwarding in your router? (but then neither IP nor address should work, if you hadn't..)
quartz ether
One day it was working next day it wasnt. Couldnt remember what I changed inbetween. I think it must be when I added the 10gbe card.
honest geode
The only thing I can think of right now, I routing in your router or a firewall rule
But if you say it's working with IP, but not address, then that kinda that theory
quartz ether
When it first happened I was like meh on holiday for 3 weeks so no need to worry about remote access. But now it is annoying the shit out of me now that I have been trying to solve it.
I can even do public-ip:port locally and it works so all the routing etc in router is great it is just the frigging duckdns.
honest geode
Are you testing access via the IP from within your local network? I'm just wondering if your router permits that, or if it does a loop back
I have a Cisco ASA firewall that does not allow me to access external address pointing back into my network, if I'm already in that network
quartz ether
Tested everything both remotely and locally. (have a few off site pc's that I can connect to)
I can connected to hass both locally and remotely with public-Ip or duckdns address
honest geode
@quartz ether I'm not sure how the DNS should be the issue. Google's DNS is usually very good, although I prefer 1.0.0.1 😃
quartz ether
Maybe I just need to put the cable back in port 0
Interface Ethernet Port 0 is down. Check cable!
long oak
Hey fam. I’ve got a general smart bulb compatibility question and I wasn’t gaining a lot of traction on reddit. I was wondering if it would be cool if I asked around here
quartz ether
Fire away @long oak
long oak
I’m looking for the easiest no fuss gu5.3 option for a family member. Something that is mostly plug and play, with google assistant support.
quartz ether
Something branded like Philips hue for a 'basic' user
mighty summit
can HA communicate with the tradfri gateway out-of-the-box ?
orchid rose
mighty summit
nothing else reqd?
orchid rose
unless someone forgot to mention it in the docs, doesn't seem like it
long oak
@quartz ether unfortunately Phillips doesn’t make a gu5.3 bulb.
quartz ether
orchid rose
milights do require a hub and the whole thing is a bit chinese but it does work
honest geode
@mighty summit You will need a Zigbee dongle (if you don't have the gateway)
fresh root
Hi!
My name is Samu and I’m studying IT-engineering in Finland. I’m doing my thesis about Home Assistant and was wondering that is there any documentation or other publishes about History of Home assistant or anything similar?
brazen sand
what are folks using to control their light switches?
proven spruce
hands, voice, webui, motion detection triggers
brazen sand
to be clear, are you using zwave, diy esp8266, etc?
proven spruce
that depends on the switch itself
brazen sand
i was thinking sonoffs for my home but i am on the fence, mainly held back from an insurance perspective. was hoping someone would convince me that they are safe to put in a wall switch socket
proven spruce
if you mean basics then no, i don't consider them safe
brazen sand
what would you recommend
proven spruce
shelly if you can get them or use the multitude of tuya switches that are popping up on the market
brazen sand
i started off with zwave, then i was light up by the sonoffs as it seems that so many people are using them so i bought 10, then last night i started looking at the safety aspect as i don't want to burn down my home, read an article about root cause of fires and that insurance companies are likely to deny a claim if its related to something like a sonoff
proven spruce
for insurance claims you need to use the devices that are certified for use in your country
brazen sand
yeh, i want to use mqtt devices so not sure if products exists out there that support it
proven spruce
depends on the country you're in
for example sonoff dual, POW and TH are CE certified
brazen sand
but even with certification you need to keep the circuitry within the oem shell, removing it will also land you in hot water. some of these devices are huge and cannot fit in your standard wall socket
proven spruce
thems the breaks
brazen sand
i'm in Canada and by appearance certified electronic IoT devices are very small in numbers
hearty depot
Wich Linux distro you guys reccomend for Home assistant?
proven spruce
what are you running it on?
hearty depot
A macbook 2011 with GPU hickup
proven spruce
something debian based would be my recommendation
proven spruce
ultimately doesnt matter since HA runs on python
hearty depot
True enough - ll go for ubuntu probably - I have to set everything manualy on arch as I see
Lazyness 1 Try out a new distro 0
proven spruce
i run all my machines on debian stretch/armbian
hearty depot
I have to run this guide to get an OS booting
https://orville.thebennettproject.com/articles/installing-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-a-2011-macbook-pro/
I think its the same as long as it there is grub present - words against it?
just feeling like a complete idiot..
2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-2720QM Still use the AMD64 Pack (sure I guess)
googled, Jep 64 bit
frigid panther
Morning, all. WAY off topic, but anyone here from Germany and also an Alexa user?
hearty depot
well - does Austra count aswell?
frigid panther
Not sure, but let's try...my question is, I see an Echo Dot for sale on eBay...However, the listing says it is the "Deutsche" version. Just wondering if that matters, once I join it to my Amazon Alexa account which is set up for American English, etc.
hearty depot
Pew. I know the diffrent languages useing diffrent servers, but thourght this were a settings thing
frigid panther
Only saying what the posting on eBay says. I think I will take a risk and buy it...not a lot of money. Thanks for your help.
vale shale
@wet pilot Are you ready for the game tonight? 😛
wet pilot
lol i'm hoping our guys come out mad. just got beat by the blues last night 😦
vale shale
We got destroyed by the Hurricanes.
azure urchin
I came from openhab and wanted to check out HA. I must say that the existance of hass.io makes everything more confusing and may keep New users from starting with HA. Why would you fragment your own software? I just don't get it.
vale shale
Some people prefer plug and play and others want to have full control. I have never tried HassIO before.
light trout
@azure urchin "Hass.io" is just one of the ways of installing Home Assistant.
Home Assistant is the same on all installation methods.
azure urchin
I know what it is. It is not a problem for me as I am a long time Linux user. But for a newcomer I think that the freedom might actually hinder some people from using the software as they are overwhelmed with options. If you think about it there is a lot of ways of installing HA. Docker. VM. Docker inside VM. Hass.io inside VM (also docker). Then there is basic install and so on. Maybe HA isn't for the novice? 🤔
light trout
That is true, there are some discussions about making the "getting started" part easier/simpler.
quartz ether
@honest geode I have pissed around about today and now I can get Sonarr to work via duckdns but only in private browsing mode and even after clearing all data/cache wont work in normal window. Also Radarr wont work either way. This is fucked.
Solved. created a new duckdns and it is working fine.
hardy canopy
Curious, which do people prefer, smart bulb or smart light switch?
eager trench
bulb
lost nexus
Hi guys - I have a quick question that I can't seem to find the answer to and it's kinda Home Assistant related - does anyone know the difference between "Switch 1" and "Switch 1n" in tasmota. I am trying to get a reed switch working with HASS and am not winning with the ESP8266 configuration
hardy canopy
I first got the caseta switches a couple of years ago before I really dived into the Home Automation deep end with Home Assistant. I'm learning now that you can do more with the smart bulbs than you can do with the switches
quartz ether
@hardy canopy it depends on the use case. Smart switch generally is limited to on/off/dimming. Smart bulb allows colour temp etc. But with the bulb you lose the "normal" functionality of the light. eg someone walks in to a room and flicks the switch.
Smart bulbs are also VERY dumb when someone turns the switch off.
hardy canopy
@quartz ether that's why I originally went with the switches but now I'm wanting to do more like change temperature. I know the kids would love to be able to use google or alexa to change the color of the light in the their room. I could just add smart bulbs but I have the Caseta dimmers so that's a no go.
quartz ether
Best of both worlds is to have a "smart" switch in each room but the lights not actually powered by it. So you can have a smart bulb and a smart switch but the power to the bulb itself is switched elsewhere (power-board) and the smart switch is just sending a toggle on off or dim/bright and then you are also still able to change colour / temp of the light separately through automations and hass
hardy canopy
I like the idea. I guess it's time to do a google search for tutorials on building my own smart plug for the light or else it could get real expensive 😃
quartz ether
Remove the current switch. Hard wire the light to always be on (bypass the switch) use the power from the light feed to power one of these. Put this in the wall in the place of the switch.
Throw original switch plate in the bin.
Would 100% do it if it wasn’t illegal in Nz
hardy canopy
If I plug the lamp into a socket not controlled by the switch I could leave disconnected with wire nuts correct. I'm not sure what the electrical code is in my city. But I really like this. It's great!
quartz ether
You make the standard on off wall switch irrelevant. Power goes from fuse board direct to light. Then you can put this anywhere you like as it uses MQTT and then hass can do what ever to the light or you can make the light MQTT so it just talks directly to the switch
wet pilot
@vale shale let's go Caps!
You get our backup goalie because holtby took a stick to the eye 2 games ago
vale shale
Even with all the pregame crap stats.
wet pilot
Yup
I've always found goalie chants for a 1 goal lead to he super dumb
I love how loud your barn is
vale shale
Lol it can get pretty crazy in there.
wet pilot
Damn
vale shale
Wow.
wet pilot
Good game so far
wet pilot
😭
Your goalie is stealing this game 😥
Finally
Gg
3 goals for 33
Jfc
This is insane
wet pilot
@vale shale 😭
vale shale
Wow the score is pretty bad.
I was at a party for most of the time.
Only 20 shots each team??
That's pretty few.
vale shale
😯
wet pilot
Pile it on ☹️
vale shale
yikes!
dusk mason
Wheres the best place to post a guide I created on creating a home assistant discord intergration and automations?
tough igloo
Home assistant forum under Share you Projects
Probably a good place. Then you could share here
honest geode
@quartz ether So duckdns was the issue all along?
quartz ether
New address had zero issues. So I cleared the cache and all files from my browsers and then everything went back to working on the original duckdns address.
I am still a little unsure what the cause was because private browsing and using different pcs should negate it being my pc as an issue
honest geode
Odd.. but my first guess about duckdns being the issue, was correct 😄
quartz ether
to a degree. I did nothing to the original address other than add a second one and remove it again.
honest geode
The good old "it works but I don't know why" 😃
quartz ether
I am just happy it is working.
honest geode
Just bought a house so soon I will have to do all of this again, with new hardware
If I have any money left afterwards..
quartz ether
Haha. I want to build. get it right from the start
honest geode
I do too, but just getting a piece of land is about 800k USD equivalent
quartz ether
Purchased a house 2 years ago now and I am still trying to get it sorted.
Jesus.... that would buy a mansion here.
honest geode
Yep.. I paid 1.2 million USD for an old house
A new would have been around 1.5
The prices are insane
quartz ether
Jesus should have just come lived in NZ with that money would have almost been able to buy a house and retire lol. Where are you based?
honest geode
NZ? New Zealand?
quartz ether
Yea
honest geode
Ah! Well.. Zealand here, in Denmark 😉
If we just moved 30 km away, we would be able to get a new house for half of what we paid for the old house. But then the area is not attractive
quartz ether
Yea we paid almost double to be in the better area of town. Rather not have my tv stolen every month. One of my flats when I was at uni got robbed 11 times in one year and that was a "good area" for students
quartz ether
We had our washer and dryer stolen one time by a couple of old ladies
quartz ether
Run night clubs.
granite pivot
What would be the appropriate channel to discuss reverse engineering / investigation of new iot devices?
low harness
Diy at a first stage, I think. Later probably devs_backend.
granite pivot
Ok cool, thanks
unreal orbit
You can buy them for a few hundred bucks. 80% of that cost is the C02 laser
vale shale
Which one would you recommend to buy?
unreal orbit
I don't personally have any experience with one, but I've researched it a bit because it's been on my wishlist for a few years. What are you trying to cut?
wispy wharf
Bah my work started blocking discord can't idle on here asking questions all day
vale shale
Mainly wood and acrylic. Also would be cool for some engraving. I have found a DIY guide for 50w for around $400-$500.
vestal stag
I know this is slightly off topic, I was just looking to see if anyone was familiar with what I'm trying to do and if I'm heading in the right direction. For the network in my home, I am using the Unifi Product Line. I am trying to setup split-dns so that I can use my TLD to connect to specific devices within my network. If anyone has a similar setup, I would love to ask a few questions to make sure I am doing things correctly.
honest geode
Any rum drinkers here?!
marsh dagger
hello
ionic ember
How interested is the community in a Discord bot that can control Home Assistant?
wet pilot
Could be fun
ionic ember
I've started working on one a year or so ago
it could turn lights on and off at that point
idk if it's still compatible at all though
wet pilot
Probably need to allow websocket API
ionic ember
I'll probably just end up re-building it, since the bot it was built on has had a lot of changes (RED)
https://github.com/Just-Insane/HASS-Cog for reference
wet pilot
Nice
ionic ember
I mean, not really 😛
It only really did one thing, and is probably really poorly written
scenic oyster
Hi, any Zigbee ppl that knows why my sudo systemctl status deconz command fails? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3TrtvNZWbV/ 😃
proven spruce
Command works it the deconz
service that failed
wispy wharf
So if there is anything report entered cause the doc isn't accurate we should just put a request to update the doc correct?
proven spruce
In most cases yes
flint dagger
Does anyone know if this is compatible with Home Assistant? https://www.amazon.com/iClever-IC-BS06-Christmas-Assistant-Wirecutters/dp/B078TW292H
(It's an iClever brand outdoor smart plug)
Alternately does anyone know a good wifi-based smart-plug for outdoors?
thick crypt
hmm some strange situation here. I just switched off my modem and router for a restart and my Intel NUC went off afterwards, while the power has not gone off. Is there an explanation for that?
proven spruce
Some failsafe if there's no network?
scenic oyster
@proven spruce and how can I fix that? ;P
proven spruce
Don't know, doesn't deconz have support channels?
storm summit
@flint dagger i can't find anywhere that says it'll work with anything but alexa
flint dagger
@storm summit thanks that’s the conclusion i came to as well. Too bad.
Haven’t found a good outdoor smart plug that works with both Alexa and HA, except a couple of pricy Z-Wave options
storm summit
@flint dagger you could always replace the outlet with a controllable outlet. though i don't think its cheap.
flint dagger
This is just for Christmas decorations so I’d rather it be separate
flint dagger
Interesting, thanks
fallow aurora
Does anyone know if Honeywell cameras or thermostats work with HA
grand stump
Hello, I am struggling with a notification loop, which I am unable to remedy. I have posted it in the Forums https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ha-notification-loop/92624
Any experienced users willing to give me (HA newbie) a hand? 😃
dusk mason
Holy heck, there's over 20k people in this discord
wispy wharf
Yes
amber bramble
Gives @clever mortar quite the platform to at everyone 😛
velvet horizonBOT
Tinkerer is away for 4d 4h 33m 30s with a message :point_right: Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
dusk mason
I was gonna tag them but I thought maybe they know
green inlet
4 days??? Maybe we should send someone to check on him.
dusk mason
Lol
jade heron
Hi! Any one here that can help me make a symlink for backup? I am running HA on NUC and Docker.
mighty summit
@jade heron what do you mean with symlink for backup ?
jade heron
Whan to move snapshots to external USB disk
:/media/hassbackup$ ls -la
total 8
drwxrwxr-x 2 wikene wikene 4096 Jan 19 13:11 .
drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 Jan 19 13:03 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 wikene wikene 24 Jan 19 13:11 backup -> /usr/share/hassio/backup
i got this.. but it goes the wrong way
mighty summit
you want /usr/share/hassio/backup to be symlinked to the USB drive ?
just reverse whatever you did to achieve backup -> /usr/share/hassio/backup
🤷
jade heron
then i get ```
:~$ sudo ln -s /media/hassbackup /usr/share/hassio/backup
ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/share/hassio/backup/hassbackup': File exists
that makes no sense
light trout
it does, adding -f should handle that
mighty summit
looks as if /media is already pointing to /usr/share/hassio/backup/ ???
light trout
oh.. lol.. yeah @jade heron remove the previous attempt before trying again
mighty summit
@jade heron can you show us mount -l
only the line containing or beginning with /media would be enough
and then also, show ls -lha /media
jade heron
/dev/sdc2 on /media type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) [habackup
:~$ ls -lha /media
total 28K
drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4.0K Jan 19 14:13 .
drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4.0K Dec 22 06:07 ..
drwxrwxr-x 2 wikene wikene 4.0K Jan 19 14:13 hassbackup
drwx------ 2 root root 16K Jan 19 14:09 lost+found
i formated the disk once more and tryed: :~$ ln -s /media/hassbackup /usr/share/hassio/backup ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/share/hassio/backup/hassbackup': File exists
mighty summit
what's in /media/hassbackup ??
jade heron
there is nothing in that folder
mighty summit
wait...
/usr/share/hassio/backup shouldn't exist
you create it by creating the symlink
is it empty ?
jade heron
:/usr/share/hassio/backup$ ls
backup df3463c7.tar hassbackup lovelace-migration snapshots unifi
wikene@NUCarea51:~$ ln -s /usr/share/hassio/backup /media/hassbackup
wikene@NUCarea51:~$ cd /media/hassbackup/
wikene@NUCarea51:/media/hassbackup$ ls
backup
but usr/share/hassio/backup is still there
:/media/hassbackup$ ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 wikene wikene 24 Jan 19 14:31 backup -> /usr/share/hassio/backup
first
your ln is the wrong way around
second
your /usr/share/hassio/backup directory should not exist when you create the link.
jade heron
i dont understand how to fix that
mighty summit
it's not difficult...but you're playing with your live HA instance.
which I wouldn't feel comfortable with, unless i have a fallback position.
also, why is there an item named backup inside of your /usr/share/hassio/backup
??
jade heron
That is where HA adds the snapshots
mighty summit
you have backup inside backup
that isn't normal
ls -lha /usr/share/hassio/backup
total 72M
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Jan 19 03:15 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4.0K Dec 6 21:58 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24M Jan 19 03:00 4fcaa782.tar
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25M Jan 18 03:00 5b9a8548.tar
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24M Jan 17 03:00 8896570a.tar
See? No backup inside backup.@jade heron
jade heron
The backup folder is created on my USB disk after i add the symlink. My usr/share/hassio/backup looks the same as yours
mighty summit
but you wrote :
backup df3463c7.tar hassbackup lovelace-migration snapshots unifi
?
that's a symlinked /usr/share/hassio/backup ?
jade heron
:/usr/share/hassio/backup$ ls -lha
total 2.4G
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4.0K Jan 19 14:18 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4.0K Nov 6 09:55 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 11 2018 backup -> /backup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.4G Jan 16 08:02 df3463c7.tar
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4.0K Jan 26 2018 ._.DS_Store
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13K Jan 19 13:56 .DS_Store
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 19 14:18 hassbackup -> /media/hassbackup
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Aug 1 09:00 lovelace-migration
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jan 17 20:04 snapshots -> /mnt/mydrive/snapshots
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jul 28 01:07 .TemporaryItems
-rwxr--r-- 1 root root 4.0K Jul 28 01:07 ._.TemporaryItems
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jan 14 12:18 unifi
bit messy
jade heron
yep
mighty summit
to remove a symlink, just rm it
jade heron
/mnt/mydrive$ ls -lha
total 8.0K
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Jan 17 17:04 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jan 17 17:04 ..
strange.. there is no snapshotsin mydrive folder
mighty summit
because /usr/share/hassio/backup is not linked to /mnt/mydrive
🤷
i don't even know why you have a snapshots in there
jade heron
:/usr/share/hassio/backup$ ls
backup df3463c7.tar hassbackup lovelace-migration snapshots unifi```your /usr/share/hassio/backup is full of stuff that is unrelated to snapshots
yes, and there's just 1 snapshot in there, it's 3 days old.
jade heron
yep
mighty summit
all those other things are...messy
anyway...to solve your original question...to create a symlink for /usr/share/hassio/backup
First you must delete /usr/share/hassio/backup
Then you create the link sudo ln -s /media/hassbackup /usr/share/hassio/backup
This will create a link named backup inside of /usr/share/hassio that points to /media/hassbackup
Snapshots will then be made in /media/hassbackup.
jade heron
How do i delete /usr/share/hassio/backup
mighty summit
Take note that i also said...this means you must delete /usr/share/hassio/backup , in your live HA instance, I would not do this unless I have a clear path to step back if things go poof.
jade heron
sounds risky 😃
mighty summit
because it is. easy and risky , if you don't know what you're doing.
so, you are asking how to remove a folder ?
jade heron
yes 😮
mighty summit
carefully.
have you considered simpler options, such as sending your snapshots into google drive?
there's a simple & well-documented addon for that.
jade heron
sound more safe... i dont have skills to do the symlink solution
mighty summit
you'll learn, over time.
if you go through that, you'll end up with a fully automated offsite snapshot system.
jade heron
Will give it a try! thanks for the help
jade heron
cant get it to work:
2019-01-19 17:26:36 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.automation] Error while executing automation automation.weekly_backup_to_google_friday_at_3_30_am. Unknown error for call_service at pos 1: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/connector.py", line 902, in _wrap_create_connection await self._loop.create_connection(*args, **kwargs)) File "uvloop/loop.pyx", line 1879, in create_connection File "uvloop/loop.pyx", line 1858, in uvloop.loop.Loop.create_connection ConnectionRefusedError: [Errno 111] Connection refused
automation:
- alias: 'Weekly Backup to Google Friday at 3:30 AM'
initial_state: 'on'
trigger:
platform: time
at: '3:30:00'
action:
- service: rest_command.google_backup
ember surge
One thing to note, a synlink does not make a copy. No files are copied off to anywhere. It is only a pointer back to the original file or folder. To save a copy of your backup files you have to put them there. Something as rsync -ave /usr/share/hassio/backup /<mount point of usb drive/ or use cp -a from to
last dirge
what's up folks?
dry cairn
holy shit
dry cairn
where you been hidin
dry cairn
how the crypto work out
dry cairn
15k
last dirge
comin back though
dry cairn
15k? or 150k
dry cairn
not bad
sleek geyser
Hello. NOOB here. Just updated my install to docker-compose. Today's goal was to track how much a heating degree day costs me... I think I accomplished it. The answer is about 2 cents. I'm sure other's have done it using HAS - but I wanted to do it on my own. The interesting part is the ESP8266 with an accelerometer sitting on my furnace. Mostly here to say hey HEY and see what kinda group hangs out here
low harness
Sounds neat @sleek geyser. How does the accelerometer help?
I also run in docker-compose since a few weeks. Soooo clean and convenient.
mighty summit
@jade heron did the Gdrive Backup addon install properly? Were you able to trigger the upload manually, as explained in the addon's docs ?
jade heron
@mighty summit Yes did everything.. i got it to save one snapshot 😃
mighty summit
@jade heron and you saw the snapshot appear in your ggle drive ?
jade heron
Yep
mighty summit
@jade heron good, then you probly have smt wrong in the automation part of the setup
sleek geyser
@low harness The accelerometer lets the ESP8266 know when the furnace is running. I roughly translate those times to gallons to dollars etc.
jade heron
@mighty summit did you see my automation?
low harness
Sure, but how? Does it vibrate? Is something turning when it's on?
Does it run on black holes?
mighty summit
@jade heron i saw it. Aren't you storing your automations in a file automations.yaml ?
jade heron
Yep
sleek geyser
The furnace (oil burner) vibrates when it's burning. I measure that.
jade heron
@mighty summit how do i need to format it when i ise automation.yaml
mighty summit
@jade heron the line automation: seems like it needs to not be there i think
@jade heron and afterwards, adjust your indentation
################################################################################
- alias: Daily Upload to google drive at 03:15 AM
trigger:
platform: time
at: '3:15:00'
action:
- service: rest_command.google_backup
This is mine for reference.
@jade heron also, you need to actually make a snapshot prior to uploading it... :
- alias: Daily Backup at 3 AM
trigger:
platform: time
at: '3:00:00'
action:
- service: hassio.snapshot_full
data_template:
name: Automated Backup {{ now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d') }}
@mighty summit i have it in packages and not in automation.yaml. My bad sorry
mighty summit
I don't know what that means, but with the 2 automations that i just pasted you ought to be able to get things sorted.
I'm out for the day.
jade heron
Ok.. will test it. Thanks again 😃
mighty summit
no sweat
hearty depot
Quite happy with my new Homeassistant server. Running of my old 2011 i7macbook.
It's even ruining Plex beside HA without issues at the moment. Some tips for me what I could do next?
wet pilot
Tautulli
nocturne aspen
Im a github new and cannot figure out if this https://github.com/mxworm/home-assistant/commit/9c2153342d9555b34f47e81d1ec61465a2109ac2 should be already included into HA, and if so is it in stable or rc version?
wet pilot
That link doesn't point to the HA repo
nocturne aspen
ohh sorry right
i meant this one https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/pull/19262/commits
is it in the latest RC ?
wet pilot
Merged to Dev 8 days ago, likely missed the merge window for 86
nocturne aspen
thanks @wet pilot
mighty summit
@hearty depot Pi-hole ?
hearty depot
Huh?
Pihole on the plex and HA server, Rather not - have to use always using a VPN wich is screwing with the difrent servers
I just use a rather big host file
mighty summit
pi-hole isn't a vpn . 🤷
hearty depot
The stupid smb shares refusing to work when I use pihole. Had tried to use ftp or something instead, But I cant connect then. Some big fail on my side 🙈
mighty summit
many have pihole, ha, plex, zoneminder, wireguard server, sonarr, radarr, nzbget on the same machine. Without issues.
hearty depot
Thats a nice list 😃 Thank you ❤
mighty summit
not an exhaustive one though.
that's about half of the services i'm running, and i be small fish.
🎣
wispy wharf
Hmm I should install wireguard
mighty summit
android batterylife when always-on wireguard is stunning
it's like it isn't even there.
wispy wharf
does it work with unraid yet?
mighty summit
i think there are dockers, so i guess the answer is yes ?
i set it up in a debian vm
shut blaze
anyone knows how to make a template switch that uses this value for "on" ??
{{ states.climate.fujitsu.attributes.temperature|int + 1 }}
cant figure it out, so frustrating..
clever mortar
@shut blaze Please read the channel topics - you're off topic here 😉
shut blaze
oh
clever mortar
#330944238910963714 is where you should be asking that
real path
hi all, not sure if this is the correct place to ask though is is possible to hide a script from the overview page in HA?
clever mortar
@real path As commented to somebody else 15 minutes ago - please read the channel topics 😉
If you're using Lovelace, ask in #frontend-archived
real path
no problem Tinkerer, my appologies
clever mortar
If you're using states - just switch to Lovelace 😉
real path
i'll look into that, thanks
tough igloo
Anyone know of a good system monitor tool for Windows that isn’t glances? (I know I should be using Linux etc. 😂)
last plaza
@tough igloo what would you like to monitor?
tough igloo
system stats similar to what glances provides, hdd storage, cpu and memory usage, see if particular services are running would be ideal. It's a headless windows server that runs most of my media stuff such as plex, sonarr, radarr etc. Glances seems to drop in and out so looking for something else that is a little more reliable
last plaza
@tough igloo never heard of a "true" headless windows server as they all have "desktop" gui. Either way, it would be simple to write a C# program that pulls the information from Windows performance counters and dump it in MQTT
tough igloo
You're right it's not technically headless, I just don't have a screen plugged in, nor do I use the gui 😅 my bad. Thanks for the help @last plaza
light trout
Windows server core does not have gui?
last plaza
Windows without windows is like a Vegetarian Chicken 😛
tough igloo
lol
last plaza
Chicken without chicken 😂
last plaza
@light trout windows core is basically a fancy DOS without all the good stuff 😛
midnight smelt
just want to say whatsup all, enjoying a COLD midwestern US winter while stuck inside automating home stuff. Have a great one! 😄
last plaza
there is not much you can do in that
light trout
Yes, it's designed to be managed from another server
torpid spire
What do you guys think is the best HA compatible lightswitch?
wet pilot
Do you have a technology preference? What region? Any price point limitations?
torpid spire
I live int eh US
50 bucks ish
But I don't wanna pay 50 if the 18 dollar wifi switch is just as good
And my technology preference is stability
wet pilot
How saturated is the 2.4ghz band where you are?
wet pilot
My opinion is z-wave > zigbee > wifi
torpid spire
What device do you pass your zwave through
wet pilot
But that's also how the price goes
torpid spire
I actually have a ton of Zwave already
I was sorta trying to phase out my ST hub
But I dunno what the best method for passing zwave through to HA. I had a HELL of a time setting up Smartthings bridge
torpid spire
Is there any pitfalls to doing all the automation via node red?
mighty summit
while i'm setting up esphomeyaml... what are people's experiences with it? good? bad? meh ?
mighty summit
experimental ? ⚗
hearty depot
I had tried it one time - was realy Expirimental. I think it could worked here on the Home assistant host machine.
Setting it up on my gaming pc wasnt fun, and therefore didnt worked. I think when you have figured it out it schould work well. But I have not the need to step away from tasmota.
mighty summit
well given the mention here https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2019/01/09/release-85/ by Paulus ... i'm thinking it's time to at least put it (ESPHome) through its paces :p
last dirge
I restarted my server last night for the first time in almost a year
stuff's broken
booo
hearty depot
a year up.. Not bad
mighty summit
@last dirge what broke ?
last dirge
it lost z-wave config on some stuff
names changed
Alexa's all goofy but I'm not sure if it's haaska or emulated hue related
I'm running an oooold version
hearty depot
... not shure if you have to migrate from version to version when youre willing to update.
last dirge
anybody still use haaska?
dull chasm
yes of course
last dirge
it was emulated hue
turns out haaska is fine 😃
now I get to set up a docker container and try to start upgrading everything
cedar herald
oh heck yeah 😄
Smart Motion Detection
took the reddit sample and improved it to resolve default state on deployment, use live illuminance and presence detection
I love my sub flows for turning on or off switch (automatically plays the action on the local speaker 😃
tough igloo
@mighty summit I just started using esphome. The set up was very simple. I generally use Tasmota but I tried out esphome as it supported a sensor that Tasmota didn't. It was very painless and I'll definitely start using it more. Can chat more in #diy-archived if required
lol already saw you're there!
I should read all rooms first before typing. Still haven't finished my morning coffee
green verge
hardy canopy
Anyone use a smart bulb for a light that is controlled by a switch? If so how do you handle the "never turn off via the switch." I've seen the HA SwitchPlate project. I was wondering what other solutions other people have done.
orchid rose
smart switches are obviously an option
other solutions would be to make the whole system smart enough so you don't actually need switches. Motion sensors, presence detection, luminosity sensors etc
proven spruce
blank the switch and get some zigbee/rf/diy ones that can control the smart lights through HA
orchid rose
one thing to remember with smart switches and that sort of SwitchPlate project is that you need two wires for them to work while some housing (like mine) only runs one wire to the switches
proven spruce
so do mine, thats why i went the zigbee route for the two smart ceiling lights i have
quartz moth
👋
untold dust
Hey, so I've got a Nvidia Shield plugged in my Yamaha Htr-4069 plugged into my TV (dumb/not smart enough). Now I want to turn on my TV via Home Assistant / Google Assistant. I've added the Yamaha and can control it via Google Assistant, but the HDMI CEC pass-through doesn't work. When I say "turn on shield", it should turn on the TV through the Yamaha. The Yamaha is turned on via Home Assistant then. Is mine just broke, or why doesn't the Yamaha pass trough the CEC command to wakeup?
orchid rose
this seems to be the case with Chromecast and my Pioneer receiver as well. The pioneer CEC works but it doesn't send the signal to my projector. Not sure if that's a CEC issue, a chromecast issue or pioneer issue
I tried searching it at some point and Google's response was that you're not supposed to connect a chromecast to a AV receiver 🤦
tidal bronze
@untold dust do you have HA controlling yamaha.? Does yamaha turn on the TV?
sterile canyon
any1 using atom and linter-js-yaml ?
wet pilot
@untold dust that just straight up works for me without HA involved
my shield always turns on my tv and AVR
last dirge
is there a good energy monitoring solution that integrates with hass yet?
last time I checked only a few things actually worked and they were extremely limited in what they could do
dry cairn
tp link plugs and this zwave thing or a sonoff with meter
tplink is a hs100 i believe and sonoff is a s31 and some other sonoff
west moss
been a long time since i used linux, but its time to move back.
back in the day ubuntu was both good and newbe friendly, but from what i understand it has since become verry bloaty and full of crap (and even ads and shit?)
So wich linux distributions is nowdays recommended for a somewhat newbe (know the basics but far from a pro)
mighty summit
@west moss if you want an out-of-the-box desktop experience then Ubuntu (and its derivatives) remain a good choice.
If you want to tinker a bit more, i'd go for debian + your window manager of choice
option1 will be bloated but ready to go after install.
option2 will be lean, but takes time to get right
eager trench
Debian headless for stability and performance
eager trench
Forget desktop if you’re only running as a server
mighty summit
if no desktop, then Debian all the way, no hesitations.
eager trench
Yeah.. depends on what he wants to do with it
mighty summit
If you want a ready to go Debian desktop, ya can't do much wrong with Mint.
proven spruce
but which flavor 😛
west moss
i'm running it on my laptopt
decided to go with manjaro 😃
looks interesting, based on arch tho, so abit harder to get into than ubuntu
but ah well, if its becomes to much i can just go throw something els on
west moss
probbly gonna miss the ease of apt package manager tho 😛
west moss
wierd, installing manjaro went fine, system worked fine, but when i reboot it gets stuck on asus spashscreen untill i press F1 afew times, then it goes into login screen 😛
thats one extra layer of security 😛
gonna se if i can fix it with some system updates or such, otherwise ill go try out mint 😃
untold dust
@wet pilot doesn't work for me. I have to turn on my Yamaha with Home Assistant. I've turned everything on in the TV settings and Yamaha settings that seem like they could be useful for HDMI CEC. The only thing that works rn is the TV turning off the Yamaha when I turn the TV off. But the Shield can't control either of them. Do I maybe need to plug it in to the DVD/BD Hdmi port? I think this port has a special CEC thing, at least that's what I've known from my old Blu-ray Player
ember surge
For a beginner get the feegoing back after an extended absence, I would sugget trying the x86 RaspberryPi image. It is based on Debian and looks and runs as if on a Pi (just no gpio) Burn it to a usb stick and do a test drive, https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/ Just a thought as it works well. 😃
quiet cobalt
Any one using duckDNS an have not be able to login to HA
hearty depot
wet pilot
lol
low harness
Screw cpu cache. That can be several cycles away - like, we're talking WHOLE nanoseconds here. Put it all in registers.
runic iris
Anyone using the owntracks android app identified what the different pause, play/pause,play,stop button states do? I can't find anything in the docs.
wet pilot
different modes for reporting
runic iris
I get that, but what are they, and which is which?
wet pilot
its easier to flip through the persistent notification and line them up that way
runic iris
Ah, I hid that as soon as I installed it. Now it makes sense, thanks. Should probably be a bit clearer in the GUI though.
wet pilot
agreed. seems like you get some toast that pops up in very terrible coloring when you hit the button
hearty depot
Readin the docks, reading the docks... Deam it Looks exactly this way.. Oh wait - there is _platform missing and, 20 minutes to find an ß not bad at all
mighty summit
who's gonna be here for me tomorrow noon, when i go > 0.85.1 ? 🤔
j/k, it'll be fine
clever mortar
Well, looks like my do I buy Nest, or Tado question is answered
mighty summit
how so? what happened ?
mighty summit
hah, thx
hearty depot
Well.. I got The Tado. But in this flat it's overpriced. Thinking hard about sending it back and just use a sonoff basic. ( Quite strange in my opinion that the cables running 230v)
Somebody knows Hive? The guy in the blog post recommend it, so worth a look
clever mortar
I want to keep my heating and hot water separate from my automation
That way when I break HA, I don't break the critical things that'll get me in the no longer hot water 😉
mighty summit
awww, go all in why don't ya
hearty depot
When I brake ha I even can't turn on lights 🙈
clever mortar
That's why smart bulbs are dumb 😛
hearty depot
Been there.. don't liked it there
mighty summit
just don't automate your emergency lights, amirite
hearty depot
The ones Wich are dumb are the guys Wich build the place. I only got 2 switches Wich area in place. The rest is on the other side of an room or behind doors
mighty summit
ok google turn on the emergency lights
wet pilot
i went ecobee for the same reason
inner lava
?rank other
slim rampartBOT
That role no longer exists.
inner lava
Uh
That DM should be updated I think
Even the channel it mentions doesn't exist anymore
wet pilot
you can ignore that from the welcome message, recent change
inner lava
oh
wet pilot
that command used to give you access to the 4 channels in the other group but the mods realized that there is no reason to gate those behind a role
inner lava
Kinda like me when playing around with Discord bots haha, I was like "Hey, that's neat", then realized it wouldn't benefit anyone
old lark
Is this a good room to ask generalized questions about home assistant?
low harness
#330944238910963714 is probably better
wary jolt
Any suggestions for good security cameras that work well with HA and don't need a Cloud subscription?
brisk furnace
can anyone give me a rundown of fail2ban? I have 2 pi's, one is running hassio (which has duckdns+ssl setup so running https) and the second running openmediavault with a docker for letsencrypt+nginx+fail2ban. I've portforwarded everything to that 2nd pi, and have nginx serving only over https facilitating communication to hassio. Nginx has it's own fail2ban, but I'm guessing if hassio senses failed logins it'll ban my nginx server? or is it smart enough to ban the external IP? And secondly, if it does ban the second IP, it won't ban it at the nginx server, only at the hassio RPI right?
wary jolt
I am almost about to pull the trigger in buying some Dahua Cameras.
lone cargo
installing debian and it's installing 1080 packages... fml.
I wanted a lightweight system
dry cairn
P or I 😛
wet pilot
@lone cargo Debian iso is usually olllllllllllllld
dry cairn
nonono jesus was using that to get on facebook
lone cargo
old? 
harsh coyote
Spread the word, Bruh is B A C K...🙃 🙂 😋 😍
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=68&v=3XBQ9rDYJKQ
tame moss
Spread the word, Ben here. FTFY 😉
dry cairn
i almost stroked out trying to get his wemos led controller to not lock up
quiet cobalt
can one tell me why my ip address would of change in Duckdns 3 weeks ago. i have not log in for that log and HA would not work?? but when looked at my set-up the IP address was not my???
wet pilot
Isp changed your non-reserved public IP?
quiet cobalt
ok Have i got the wourg set-up as I it stop me from login and the last 1 week I have been thinking why I could not log in?? tell I seen this and change it back to my IP now it back working.....
P>S why I asking as if there changed i will have the same thing happen to me and once more will have to change it back
wet pilot
If your public IP isn't reserved via your isp (you have to pay extra for that) it can change at any time whenever the isp damn well pleases
clever mortar
@wary jolt Worth searching here (and the forum) - it's a regularly asked question so there's already a lot of answers
hearty depot
Realy need a password manager now... Somebody uses a good one ?
my wife swears on last pass. But not too shure
clever mortar
LastPass FTW
proven spruce
you mean keepass right?
proven spruce
i get the distinct feeling your nickname is misleading
hearty depot
Kee pass is the offline one when I`m right
proven spruce
in keepass you're responsible for all your data
you can always put the encrypted .db on a cloud service or host it yourself
clever mortar
I'm lazy, I'll put the least effort in to getting things working - and I want things to keep working with little effort 😉
This may mean I put in lots of effort to make things work, so I don't have to care any more though
hearty depot
I realy have o use unice passwords and so on - I started to use unice ones... But cant remember the right ones 😅
so no unify controler for me then
proven spruce
i know 3 passwords, everything else might be lost if i forget my keepass one
clever mortar
I have the master key for my LastPass on some USB sticks, and a hard copy somewhere safe, because yeah... losing that will suck
hearty depot
Maybe some Invite perks for last pass?
clever mortar
LastPass is free in the basic mode
That includes the mobile app these days
I've got a family sub though, because it's easier to get everybody else not re-using passwords that way
hearty depot
lets go and reuse Dads pornhub passord 😜
west moss
anyone know how good the sound quality of sony LF-S50G is?
i'm looking for some new good google assistant speakers
mighty summit
LastPass user here also.
hearty depot
Untill LastPas getting hacked too 🙈
clever mortar
Pfft, the database is encrypted with my details (including 2FA)
hearty depot
just setting up 2FA
uuuh sweet Lutris , gaming platform for Linux... I think I can switch then - The only thing I ll miss is either affinity photo/ adobe sute
orchid rose
leothlon, I was looking at that as well, but ended up buying a JBL Link 10 instead when it was for sale for 100€ last spring. The sound isn't great, but my point of reference is proper Hifi speakers etc and not other smart speakers. It's much better than GH Mini though
lyric cairn
Does anyone know if there is a smart bulb of any type that competes with Hue Par16 bulbs. I dont need the color but I do need small spotlight.
lethal dust
Pleasant surprise today, I received an email from Google. My Google assistant app qualified for the next tier of their developer community program.
And as part of this tier I'll receive a Google Home 😁
wet pilot
nice!
lethal dust
Interestingly enough, the number of users for my app was multiplied by 6 on Christmas day 😄
orchid rose
you're going places and Google is eager to take advantage of that!
merry hearth
i got a very strange issuee, wheneever i use normal chrome, the windy card isnt working, its says, ops looks youre offline, when i use google in incognito it just works. i already cleared cache etc...
orchid rose
I'll ask here as it's more on topic. How much work would it be to set up a NAS with some random cheap parts? Maybe run HASS on the same system as well? What would you guys recommend?
uneven cobalt
I would look at running unraid. You can do it fairly cheap and utilize stuff you may already have. Not a true NAS but will provide much the same features while allows for docker and VM's as well
It's what I do
clever mortar
FreeNAS is worth a look too
tidal bronze
https://xpenology.com/forum/ as well
orchid rose
thanks guys, I'll take a look. It's nothing fancy I'm looking for, just something to move some storage away from my PC for as little noise as possible
being able to run Hass would be an added bonus. Wouldn't have to get a Pi or a NUC for that
cursive nimbus
Love the actual synology units too.
tidal bronze
Synology 
cursive nimbus
Not very expensive either
orchid rose
maybe not very expensive, but not cheap either from what I can see
tidal bronze
Been using them for years, all I can say it they are very reliable the most important thing about a nas. Currently run 3 units so I might be a bit biased 😀
cursive nimbus
Best money I ever spent was on synology gear
lethal dust
This project looks cool ! https://www.instructables.com/id/Project-Alias
Custom wake word and privacy issue solved 
orchid rose
What's so good about the synology stuff? For me performance isn't important, but noise is, so that's why I'm asking
clever mortar
Solid, reliable
I know others with Synology, and QNAP (and, sssh, ReadyNAS), and they're all the kind of things that just run, and run, and run
No fuss, no drama
orchid rose
fair enough, and while that is important, I've always seen silence even more important... Maybe it's the Finn in me 😃
clever mortar
That's why my home server is custom built 😉
SilverStone DS380 case, fans all replaced, low profile cooler, with fan replaced, 45W Xeon CPU
Oh, sorry, 25W ...
I am, however, an unashamed geek with these things, and have been building my home systems for almost as long as I've been working with computers
orchid rose
hehe, yeah that sounds about right
low harness
@lethal dust It makes me think of the brain slug from Futurama.
clever mortar
It's easy to get it wrong, or at least not very right, if you're not paying attention
low harness
I have a synology NAS. Pros: It's easy. Full stop.
orchid rose
do you have it anywhere close to you or hidden somewhere? @clever mortar
clever mortar
Yeah, my parents have a (now very old) ReadyNAS unit because for "normal" people, a decent NAS is always a better choice than DIY
My server, it sits in my home office, on the sideboard
That home office is basically the smallest bedroom, so not hidden away, and in the next room to where I sleep
The only sound damping concession to the install, is that it sits on speaker mounts to stop it transmitting the sound through the unit and into the floor
orchid rose
I got one (NAS) for my dad when he needed a new PC and I thought it would be a good idea to go with a NUC and a NAS, but the problem turned out to be "beat" if that is the right translation... Even for him, the noise is just too much for comfortable use which has kind of scared me away from it for now
waiting for the ssd prices to drop... keeping on waiting
clever mortar
You want to buy RAID spec drives, which helps with that
The speaker mounts (basically foam) massively cuts down on sound transmission
low harness
WD red works well for continuous operation in my experience.
orchid rose
I know, but it's mostly about physics. A vibrating drives gonna vibrate and two drives vibrating close to the same frequency are gonna be annoying
clever mortar
Backblaze do a good review every year of drive reliability, which is worth a read
And yes they do, but the NAS drives are designed with that vibration in mind
Also, appropriate mounts help
orchid rose
I'll check that out
clever mortar
It's gone a bit mainstream, but https://www.quietpc.com/ is worth browsing if you're building something
orchid rose
I used to be oldskool with the silent pc review... Good old times...
clever mortar
Ah yes, I spent a long time on that site
Used what I learned to build my first decent home server, with acoustic foam inside, and all that.
Scared the crap out of me when I powered it on, and other than blinking lights, there was no noise...
orchid rose
one of the first ones that actually put some measurements in reviews...
odd mason
@serene mortar so i think i'm going to go against the grain here and go with a 2MP dahua. i spent about 5 hours today researching (maybe more) and there isn't anything that beats the low light performance of the starlight cams (at least not <$200)
clever mortar
And explained how they did the measurements, which I was really impressed by
odd mason
wish me luck lol
clever mortar
Good luck, but maybe not a Luck Dragon 😉
odd mason
lol
orchid rose
For someone like me, there's nothing more annoying than a review with no measurements nor explanations at all. That's why I always loved SPCR
odd mason
from what i understand, the more MPs the worse it is in low light conditions
apparently the 2MP out perform the 5MP dahuas in low light
clever mortar
Sounds familiar
orchid rose
in general MP tells nothing about nothing 😃
clever mortar
It tells you something about the marketing department 😛
orchid rose
not really
serene mortar
@odd mason you will be fine either ways....plus cameras are not the tough part if you have the wiring
odd mason
i'll have to run some here and there. mostly i should be okay because i have access above and below
serene mortar
Dahua N41BD22 4MP starlight is for 136 on B&H
orchid rose
if it was just pixel vs pixel, the bigger the better ofc, but in reality most sensors can't actually produce anywhere near as sharp images as the pixel density is
odd mason
yea i saw that @serene mortar but i can't find any good reviews on it
i've been in ipcamtalk all day today
serene mortar
if you going to wire yourself, you can get two different cameras and try them out
serene mortar
but if the 2mp has good reviews, go for it
odd mason
^^ basically the one i'm planning on getting (newer gen tho)
orchid rose
if you've ever compared a SLR to a mobile phone camera you know exactly how much megapixels matter. 2MP might be good, it might be bad, but just looking at that number will give you nothing
clever mortar
That said though, age matters...
My Pixel phone produces photos that are by and large as good as, if not sometimes better, than my old DSLR
Admittedly, 12 or so year old camera vs 2 or so year old phone
serene mortar
most camera pictures look fine on small screens
orchid rose
tech keeps advancing for sure, but people are quite often used to much lower quality than they were 20 years ago
odd mason
i'm not looking to produce a hollywood movie lol. just want good monitoring and be able to use some of the new tensorflow image processing to tell me when there are cars in my driveway or someone approaching my doors
stuff like that
orchid rose
although the 5-6MP images I have from my European road trip 15 years ago just make me cringe at this point... If we only had Pixels etc at that time....
those pocket cameras were god awful
serene mortar
for those objectives, you will be perfectly fine @odd mason
odd mason
w00t
orchid rose
chags, just saying that MP don't mean nothing. Look for reviews and such to make the decision
odd mason
@orchid rose that's what i've been doing all day today
settled on the dahua IPC-HDW5231R-ZE
unreal orbit
So how does one get one of those nice shiny discord roles in this server?
uneven cobalt
@fallow aurora Do you have it already? If not look at getting the Xiaomi one. It works and is a lot cheaper.
fallow aurora
I bought one for my dad but he got a wink 2 instead of smart things.
So I was trying to see if I could use it
dusk mason
is the android HA app compatible with https?
wet pilot
there is no official HA app for android
dusk mason
Yea I realise its not official Im just wondering if anyone has gotten it connected to their ha with https
wet pilot
right, so since there is no official android app, how do we know which app you're talking about?
dusk mason
Truetrue
wet pilot
😉
wet pilot
so typically, http/s support isn't really a thing as long as your url resolves. Most libraries that make api calls are pretty robust
barren hound
laughs in HSTS
lyric pollen
Anyone know of a Zigbee outlet for the US market? An actual hard wired outlet.
Google has not been returning anything. Just z wave over and over.
cursive nimbus
How does everyone feel about Tplink HS200 switch. Are there cheaper better alternatives?
pure vine
@odd mason @orchid rose all MP is is a crap way of telling you the ammount of pixels there are in a certian thing, in this case the camrea sensor
so my cannon EOS 400D makes images of 3888x2592
times the width and height together and you get 10077696 devide it by a million
and you get 10.9 mp(rounded to the 1 decimal)
It will have nothing to do with low light proformace
vast dove
@fallow fox https://www.home-assistant.io/components/sensor.statistics/ Could this work?
fallow fox
No, as it is no mechanism to tell it when to start measuring...
I think it can be done as a template sensor however...
fallow fox
Maybe if I can set up an automation to store the sensors value at midninght, I can have a template that calculates the difference between the sensor.consumption_midnight and sensor.consumption...?
unreal orbit
@cursive nimbus I love them. I have one for every light switch in my house. You can buy them in bulk to lower the price a bit
cursive nimbus
@unreal orbit Thanks!. Where do t you find them in bulk??
unreal orbit
Are you in the US?
cursive nimbus
Yes
unreal orbit
If you're a Sam's Club member or know someone that's a member, they sell a 3 pack online for $80
Comes out to 26 bucks each
cursive nimbus
Thanks for the information!
keen beacon
?rank other
slim rampartBOT
That role no longer exists.
lyric pollen
Those TP link wifi switches look interesting. Can you program them so they toggle the lights they are hooked to? I have all these stupid Tradfri bulbs and tearing down the mesh by turning the lights on and off is detrimental to the stability of the network. Would love to find a light switch that I can program to separate it's on/off functionality from the actual button press.
jade heron
HI! I have a 40GB SSD disk that i run Hassio in docker on a NUC. Is it possible to clone this to a bigger SSD disk?
jade heron
dd?
lyric pollen
It's a linux disk utility.
I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to do a system snapshot and then restore the snapshot. If that's possible.
eager trench
For hassio I would
jade heron
No its not i have used this weekend for this and i cant get it to work.
To much errors after restart
clever mortar
dd will allow you to clone any disk to any other one of the same size or larger
The problem is, you can't necessarily expand the used disk space afterwards
eager trench
I have used snapshots 20+ times even across different install types with zero issues..
jade heron
I installed Ubuntu Server, docker ce and installed Hassio with this curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/hassio-build/master/install/hassio_install | bash -s -- -m intel-nuc
clever mortar
You'll have to re-install on the new system, and then restore the snapshot, if you want to use all the disk space
jade heron
Then i keep my small disk.. i have re-installed it 8 time now an tried different snapshots (85.1 and 86.2) same errors everytime.
clever mortar
@lyric pollen Are you... suggesting that the errors... are relevant?
I'm shocked, just shocked... 😛
jade heron
2019-01-26 10:16:41 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sensor.wunderground] Error fetching WUnderground data: ClientConnectorError(-3, 'Try again') 2019-01-26 10:16:41 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sensor.yr] Retrying in 20 minutes: Cannot connect to host aa015h6buqvih86i1.api.met.no:443 ssl:None [Try again] 2019-01-26 10:16:41 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.climate.sensibo] Failed to connect to Sensibo servers. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/connector.py", line 955, in _create_direct_connection traces=traces), loop=self._loop) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/connector.py", line 825, in _resolve_host self._resolver.resolve(host, port, family=self._family) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/resolver.py", line 30, in resolve host, port, type=socket.SOCK_STREAM, family=family) File "uvloop/loop.pyx", line 1459, in getaddrinfo socket.gaierror: [Errno -3] Try again
jade heron
This is just a small part
Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/homeassistant/components/climate/sensibo.py", line 72, in async_setup_platform await client.async_get_devices(_INITIAL_FETCH_FIELDS)): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pysensibo/__init__.py", line 35, in async_get_devices return (yield from self._get('/users/me/pods', fields=fields)) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pysensibo/__init__.py", line 92, in _get timeout=self._timeout) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/client.py", line 403, in _request timeout=real_timeout File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/connector.py", line 500, in connect proto = await self._create_connection(req, traces, timeout) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/connector.py", line 832, in _create_connection req, traces, timeout) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/aiohttp/connector.py", line 937, in _create_direct_connection raise ClientConnectorError(req.connection_key, exc) from exc aiohttp.client_exceptions.ClientConnectorError: Cannot connect to host home.sensibo.com:443 ssl:None [Try again] 2019-01-26 16:19:58 ERROR (MainThread) [pyhaversion] Error fetching version from dockerhub,
I have Unifi controller on my snapshot could that make error on the network?
clever mortar
Unlikely
cedar shard
is there any good discord server for ipcamera or onvif camera ?
mighty summit
@cedar shard not a discord server...still a good source of info : https://ipcamtalk.com/
dry cairn
once you can sift through the garbage posts
mighty summit
is there an alternative ?
slim tangle
I thought I was submitting a Hass.io bug report with this post:
... but I'm not getting much takeup. Did I do the right thing? Do I need to submit somewhere else? Or submit differently?
quartz ether
It looks like it is fixed ?
slim tangle
I just this moment installed 0.86.3 and so haven't tested it yet. Is there a link you can give that discusses?
wet pilot
Ok, friends, my router is shitting the bed and I need something new. Who can recommend a good pro-sumer/Enterprise grade router that can handle a 1gb up/down connection? And an associated switch to go with it? I don't have a lot of direct networking knowledge but am willing to learn
dry cairn
edgerouter infinity and edgeswitch xg
dull chasm
damn @dry cairn step down a couple grand
dry cairn
if you run anything that disables hw offload you limited to either 82mbps or 250
dull chasm
i got a pro-4p and and 16 port switch with two small 8 port switches
wet pilot
My fault for not listing a budget 😛
dry cairn
lol
wet pilot
What would disable hardware offload?
wet pilot
I don't currently run a VPN at all, would probably handle that differently anyway
dry cairn
then you good
remember the er4 and up only have 1 gig ports so you prolly realisticly be seeing 900 to 950
wet pilot
So short term, probably an 8 - 16 port switch and I'll keep a couple of dumb switches in place
True, but that's all I'm getting right now anyway due to the pos ATT box I have to keep
It's in pass through mode but the bits still hit the hardware
Is that a decent starting point then? No other vendors I should be considering?
dry cairn
well i got no issues i run 800+ ppl on 2 ubiquiti routers they the xg but still
i used to run em on a bunch of 6p
wet pilot
Heh this is a home deployment, not quite that scale
dull chasm
i run 5 people on 4 pro'
dry cairn
lol
rain swift
What's new people?
clever mortar
@jade heron You should be asking that in #330990055533576204 - please do read the channel topics
jade heron
will do! sorry
clever mortar
Does 😉
For chat around things that aren't Home Assistant related, like whether Docker or Kubernetes, or Celcius or Kelvin, or anything. NO POLITICS or RELIGION and BE CIVIL to one another or get BANNED permanently.
clever mortar
With the exception of some of the read only channels, everything has a topic
rain swift
I can't get banned, you guys have helped me so much, I need to figure out how to send a beer lol
rain swift
good idea, we don't need the cancer of people bringing their social justice and politics stuff in here.
clever mortar
I can't work out if that's genius, or madness...
rain swift
madness!
rare plover
Does anyone have/use cheap camera/lightbulb combos that run on ICSee Pro app?
rain swift
not I
midnight adder
i was thinking a unified notification component would be useful - like you just execute one notify service action with a message and alarm level - and it sort of propagates it out to all of the notification platforms
is that a thing already?
i think for now you do it notification platform by platform
maybe i could script it with some fancy templating
wet pilot
Sounds like a job for nodered/appdaemon
wet pilot
/me uses appdaemon
green inlet
Pretty sure you could do that with template in Home Assistant depending on how many different scenarios you use. I use a service_template to send notifications to different groups in my house depending on who is considered home or extended away.
last dirge
anbody running flux-capable light bulbs?
clever mortar
~notify.group @midnight adder 😉
velvet horizonBOT
@midnight adder https://www.home-assistant.io/components/notify.group/
serene delta
That awesome moment when you fix an automation because you didn't read it properly. sensor != binary_sensor smacks forehead
low harness
so many times...
coral steppe
does somebody has experience with Open VPN access server ?
uneven cobalt
a bit. what do you need?
dry cairn
orchid rose
Useless smart devices brought in to mind a question I've been wondering about. Do people find smart locks useful and if so, why?
I'd be afraid of exposing the front door to the Internet and I don't see what it would really add in all honesty, so I'd be interested to hear other opinions as I know they are fairly popular