#the-water-cooler

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quartz ether
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I live in NZ way less watched. Also Private trackers lowers risk

vale shale
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What are private trackers?

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I can imagine how much I sound like a noob right now.

quartz ether
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Lol.... They are trackers like any other but they require you to sign in. Usually only able to register by invite

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Once in you need to maintain a ratio DL / UL

vale shale
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Oh ok

dusk mason
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What part of NZ @quartz ether

quartz ether
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Hamilton

dusk mason
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Ah nice

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Im from tauranga

dusk mason
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?ranks

slim rampartBOT
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Ranks

Other 146 members

dusk mason
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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT
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@dusk mason, you joined Other.

hybrid ridge
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?ranks

slim rampartBOT
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Ranks

Other 147 members

hybrid ridge
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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT
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@hybrid ridge, you joined Other.

vale shale
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Wow this Logitech G910 keyboard is pretty awesome!

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It may be my greatest Christmas present.

dry cairn
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๐Ÿคฃ

barren hound
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Watching a house being built is a real test of patience.

quartz ether
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@dry cairn Demoted?

dry cairn
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someone is having fun

sand badge
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someone started with a fresh config rather than migrating ๐Ÿ˜‚

scarlet bough
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@scarlet bough, you joined Other.

hearty depot
light trout
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rewrite it to python, HA can do python ๐Ÿ˜‰

hearty depot
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๐Ÿ˜ฟ I cant do python..

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Got a space to learn for me?

light trout
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Then it's a great time to learn ๐Ÿ˜„

hearty depot
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Where best - and how?

light trout
hearty depot
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lol request for Humans

barren hound
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it doesn't look like it'd be that complicated to create a switch component for it.

light trout
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That is a posibility, but it takes a metric ๐Ÿ’ฉ ton of information in the data it must transfer

barren hound
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i mean, it's technically quicker to do via a rest component, since you don't have to worry about setting up a custom component

hearty depot
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I tryed already with a rest_command but failed hard

barren hound
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the hard part about the rest component is not including your credentials in it

hearty depot
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OK! Outch - Hit my head again

barren hound
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also, looking at the php the guy is using, it's got JSON encapsulated in XML?

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that's dirty

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just needs some YAML thrown in to summon eldritch horrors of coding

light trout
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"drity" was a bit kind ๐Ÿคฃ

barren hound
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oh, fuck that. it passes the credentials in plaintext over http

hearty depot
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At least a point for me to sniff the credencials

barren hound
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and everyone else on the internet (especially since it looks like these are talking back to chinese servers)

hearty depot
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set up a proxy to get all the infos in the first place - even had to roll back because I couldnt sniff the https cerdentials xD

light trout
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You can should use the https endpoint

barren hound
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the fact it even has a http endpoint is borderline criminal these days

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for passing credentials

hearty depot
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even an other payload - (the one open issue )

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Its not plaintext at least

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๐Ÿคฃ

barren hound
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from that link: "body":{"authentication":{"FUserAccount":"' . $plugUser . '","FPassword":"' . $plugPass . '"} looks pretty plaintext to me

light trout
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it is..

hearty depot
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The user is plaintext - but the password is something like A243D217E0E71A20FA3CC5A65E270151

wet pilot
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a clear text hash'd password is still less than ideal

barren hound
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that short a hash is pretty breakable, probably MD5

hearty depot
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ll check - wait

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not in a database yet

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Still trying the curl xP

light trout
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go back 4 hours, give up.

hearty depot
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wtf.. it just worked xD

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(NO joke)

light trout
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no one is laughing ๐Ÿคท

hearty depot
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just super happy xD

light trout
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okey @clever mortar is, but I think that is not relevant, he seems to be in an unusual good mood ๐Ÿป

clever mortar
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Two days of good food, family, and no work

light trout
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That will do it ๐Ÿ˜„

clever mortar
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I mean, I'm technically the escalation route for the on call people, but if it gets to me then things have gone to hell, and back, and if I'm not sober it doesn't matter

light trout
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Hahahahaha ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
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Also probably means it's a really hard interesting problem, which means it'll be fun - and I'll get the time back

light trout
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or the people on call are so drunk they can't see the difference between DNS and Dominos Pizza ๐Ÿคท

clever mortar
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Well, there's that...

light trout
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but in that case thee might be pizza waiting for you ๐Ÿ˜›

clever mortar
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Which isn't the end of the world ๐Ÿ˜„

dry cairn
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@quartz ether see just a slight setback all fixed now ๐Ÿ˜›

quartz ether
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Take it away again.

wet pilot
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preferential treatment!

dry cairn
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i'm pretty sure nobody in here gives me anything preferential

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exept a load of crap ......

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pretty sure someone will complain again sooner or later

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the facebook mentality demands it

dry cairn
velvet horizonBOT
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skalavala is away for 3m 52s with a message :point_right: On my way to Elbonia on a business trip.

dry cairn
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i just printed these on the ender 3

last plaza
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Awesome!

dry cairn
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they absolutely dimensionally accurate

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within +-0.03

last plaza
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Ok. Cool

dry cairn
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rebuilding my old ass hictop i found in the garage the other day ๐Ÿ˜›

green inlet
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Hey @dry cairn , if you ever feel the need, I will give you my address and you can ship that to me. In return, I will ship you my wife......just saying.

dry cairn
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๐Ÿค”

lone cargo
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sounds like a good deal

dry cairn
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not sure

green inlet
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She cooks, although she uses the smoke detector as a timer. She cleans, when she feels like it. She is really great at shopping......sales...spending money

dry cairn
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there's a reason he's trying to get rid of her

lone cargo
green inlet
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Lmao...just kidding

dry cairn
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who cares i get takeout i got a maid and i shop myself

lone cargo
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Limited time offer. Just pay shipping and handling

green inlet
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I REALLY NEED a 3D printer though

dry cairn
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question is what are the specs

lone cargo
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monoprice has cheap ones. Not saying they're any good

dry cairn
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@green inlet you can get a ender 3 pro for 270$ or a monoprice maker select plus for 299

lone cargo
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Have you tried calling/visiting the website of your local Library? Three libraries near me have 3d printers

dry cairn
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yup

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most libraries do

green inlet
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Specs? I dream stuff up I donโ€™t need and it prints it cuz itโ€™s cool๐Ÿ˜Ž

dry cairn
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if they worth a shit is the question

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specs on your wife man ......get with the pro gram

green inlet
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Letโ€™s just say I nick named her shawty

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Lmao

dry cairn
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whats a shawty

green inlet
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~lmgtfy shawty

velvet horizonBOT
green inlet
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Maybe I spelled it wrong

dry cairn
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lol

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but yeah if you want cheap go with ender 3 pro or a monoprice maker select plus

dry cairn
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if you got money to burn get a prusa mk3

green inlet
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What is a Prusa going to cost?

dry cairn
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the kit starts at 799

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assembled is 999

lone cargo
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so many channels.. I have no idea which one to ask stuff in shockedliferobut

Where would I ask about aliexpress items confirmed to work? (outlets, etc)

dry cairn
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with mmu 2.0 prolly 1200 1300

green inlet
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I really donโ€™t have a need. I just feel like if I have one...I,will,find stuff. Yea...thatโ€™s outa my range

dry cairn
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ender 3 pro is really a great printer for 269$

green inlet
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I need to figure out thermostats

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Lmao

dry cairn
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it needs a lil screw tightening when you get it thats it

green inlet
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Nest or not to nest

dry cairn
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i use a nest but i also build my own

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@dull chasm has github page

green inlet
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I have a nest hello. That thing just works and works well

lone cargo
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nest hello?

dry cairn
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yeah i got one too

lone cargo
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oh. it's like ring

green inlet
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Threw the ring pro in the trash

dry cairn
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had to rma my last one the cam died

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but it works good

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2 way is working good too

green inlet
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Yes...very good.

lone cargo
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So hard to find stuff that works outside in say -35 Celsius/-31 F

green inlet
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I want the thermostats but man they are expensive

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Need 2

dry cairn
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sometimes they got sales

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but then i made my own thermostat that works natively with ha

green inlet
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Walmart has them on sale,right now for 200

lone cargo
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See if your government, electrical company, natural gas, or city has a rebate

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Mine was giving away Ecobee 3 and nests

green inlet
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Almost pulled the trigger. @lone cargo , I checked into that too...no go

lone cargo
dry cairn
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if you handy build my thermostat

green inlet
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How did you find that...on their home page?

dry cairn
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5 inch touchscreen wifi etc etc

lone cargo
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government advertised the heck outta it

dry cairn
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runs local and does not phone home

green inlet
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I am handy but....wife....has to look esthetically pleasing

lone cargo
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of course

green inlet
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Local government. Like city?

lone cargo
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sure. or State/Province

dry cairn
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well the case is 3d printed but if you print it on a good printer it looks like molded

green inlet
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I get it.....we are back to trading my wife for your printer ๐Ÿ˜‚

dry cairn
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just fork out the 269

lone cargo
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could buy it used

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craigslist

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or ebay

dry cairn
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best entry level printer ive run into so far

lone cargo
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oh. forgot we were talking about printers lmao

dry cairn
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if a printer ends up on craigslist or ebay there garanteed a issue

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for about 159 you can get a monoprice mini delta

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but they are junk when they stock their firmware has wrong steps etc etc

lone cargo
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you could press your luck on aliexpress ๐Ÿคท

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(sarcasm)

dry cairn
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not gonna be any cheaper

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they wised up

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you can prolly get it free there

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they got a shipping garantee

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if it don t show on garanteed date you get a refund

chilly nymph
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Is anyone familiar with hassio add-ins?

dry cairn
chilly nymph
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Sorry for bothering you, Zombu. Certainly wasn't intended.

dry cairn
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i just pointed you to the correct channel

chilly nymph
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Appreciated and apologizing. Not being sarcastic.

lone cargo
dry cairn
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right

green inlet
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Well that was awkward.....or wasnโ€™t it?

dry cairn
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๐Ÿคท

green inlet
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๐ŸŒฎ

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When all else fails....๐ŸŒฎ

dry cairn
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you know thats how i get shit on all the time ...just by pointing things out then ppl are mad

green inlet
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Uh huh

dry cairn
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๐Ÿคฃ

green inlet
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I appreciate straight forward and direct.

chilly nymph
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@dry cairn Unfortunately, I believe I came across differently than intended...Not sure it's appropriate to apologize again, but I'm sorry?

green inlet
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@chilly nymph ....๐ŸŒฎ๐ŸŒฎ๐Ÿ‘

dry cairn
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it only comes across as you want to see it

chilly nymph
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That said, I think I need discord help now. My #330990055533576204 channel has disappeared from my navigation window and I am only able to access it through clicking on the link in this chat ๐Ÿ˜’

dry cairn
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this is text which does not convey any emotions very well

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click on the dropdown where it says support

chilly nymph
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Off to google, I suppose

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Oof. That was wickedly simplistic. Thanks.

dry cairn
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๐Ÿ˜›

chilly nymph
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I don't think there's anyone around in that channel at the moment and I really should be heading to bed. I will try to pop back in tomorrow when I have more time and ask again.

dry cairn
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they will answer sooner or later most ppl are US based so some of em are sleeping

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and then there is @clever mortar that guy is always awake

velvet horizonBOT
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Tinkerer is away for 5h 14m 49s with a message :point_right: Still searching for signs of intelligent life.

dry cairn
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i think its a bunch of ppl taking turns

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at least thats my theory

vale shale
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At least on Tinkerers account.

chilly nymph
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Appreciated. I just want to figure out how to package up an add-in I'd like to make from some interaction I'm building with Hyundai Blue Link

vale shale
dry cairn
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no clue man i don t do hassio

vale shale
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He is hassio?

chilly nymph
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No, I know. This isn't the right place to ask anyway

dry cairn
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yup

vale shale
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No experience with that here.

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From me

chilly nymph
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@vale shale Going to try hassio soon. Have not tried it yet.

dry cairn
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i don t do assioo

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whoops hassio

vale shale
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Thats an oopsi

chilly nymph
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but want to package it for both

dry cairn
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normal ha has no app store

chilly nymph
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Have no problem with homeassistant. Just want to make sure I do the "one click install" appropriately

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Correct.

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The one click install is for hassio

dry cairn
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the one that would know is @junior forge he's the hassio addon sorcerer

chilly nymph
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Cool. I'll check in with them then. Thanks for the tip.

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I recognize that name...

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Maybe from the podcast.

dry cairn
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he runs his own channels on youtube and twitch or some shit ๐Ÿ˜›

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but if someone knows its him

chilly nymph
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Oh yeah? I rarely have time for youtube or twitch, lol. Frankly, I always forget to stop in to this discord server as well, though I've been lurking for around a year

dry cairn
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he might be dozing though he is in teh netherlands

chilly nymph
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I would be. I should be myself now anyway.

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Have a good night, y'all!

dry cairn
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nn

dusk mason
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Huge thank you to @rain oxide Who helped me with over 4hours of troubleshooting after a bad config file almost caused me to wipe my HA but with his help we were able to fix the config file and get everything working again. Your help is greatly appreciated ๐Ÿ‘

rain oxide
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Not a problem buddy.

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It was fun and educational at the very least.

wet pilot
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Now go install the ssh add-on and take a snapshot!

quiet cobalt
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How was everyone Xmas

light trout
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short

rain oxide
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For real. Already forced him to make a backup.

dusk mason
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"forced"

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lolz

light trout
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on the windows machine open cmd and type ipconfig /all

dusk mason
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alright

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Also is that config line for the dns in the wrong place?

light trout
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is the IP of pihole listed at the top of DNS servers?

dusk mason
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oh, pi-hole is hosted on a raspberry pi

light trout
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yes?

dusk mason
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Doesnt matter?

light trout
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no

dusk mason
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No it doesnt show

light trout
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then you are not using it..

dusk mason
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sigh Is there a guide somewhere?

dusk mason
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Sigh I might leave it for the night

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Doesnt seem to like me

light trout
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After changing DNS server on windows run this:

ipconfig /flushdns

in CMD to "trigger" the change

dusk mason
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it still doesnt show on ipconfig /all

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Could it be because I have a vm installed? I remember a while ago vm's messed up my networking

light trout
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ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
dusk mason
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  [โœ—] List download failed: using previously cached list
  [i] Target: hosts-file.net (ad_servers.txt)
  [i] Status: Pending...```
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Does that mean anything important?

light trout
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looks like you do not have static IP/DNS set on the server (pi)

dusk mason
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Under "ipv4_address":?

light trout
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๐Ÿคท

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Take a break, then read some more on local networking ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

dusk mason
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good idea

clever mortar
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@formal temple Windows Key + R then type \\192.168.0.9 or whatever the IP is

formal temple
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thanks that did it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ another snippet learned

formal temple
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@junior forge if i wanted to build my hass like you have yours from a fresh install would i just delete all the folders in config and copy yours over then start configuring everything or is that a bad idea?

junior forge
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Well, that would work somewhat, but you'll probably going to run into issue with all kinds of devices I have and you don't

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and generally, I would really recommend to really understand how your own configuration works, so starting from scratch to figure it out, would something I would recommend.

formal temple
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@junior forge it is not my main machine it is a new vm i'm setting up/ playing with

junior forge
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@formal temple Story stays the same ๐Ÿ˜‰

clever mortar
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Blindly copying anybody else's setup will cause pain

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Unless of course they've got the default config, and haven't done anything yet ๐Ÿ˜›

formal temple
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its not blindly and its on a vm that has nothing configured yet

formal temple
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how do i get VSC to automatically open when i click a yaml file?

clever mortar
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Windows?

formal temple
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yeah i tried to set it with the check box but it still asks how to open it

formal temple
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thanks fixed it

formal temple
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is there a way to bulk change the indent in vsc?

clever mortar
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It has a search and replace option that supports regular expressions, so yes

languid sphinx
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Started moving automatons from yaml to node-red to play around with it. A few hours later the yaml is all gone and my simple automation have evolved into the WOPR.

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Also I'm sitting here like an idiot testing this flow with a 5 minute timer in it instead of changing the timer to 5 seconds for the purposes of testing. Sigh heh

uneven cobalt
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lol been there before

fickle kayak
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Does anyone know if there will ever be an official Home Assistant App for phones that could be used to send notifications to your phone when a sensor is tripped, not to mention just simple controlling of entities?

clever mortar
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There already is an iOS app

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If you mean an Android app, they discussed this in one of the podcasts a month or few back. The short answer is "no"

fickle kayak
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oh, well aint that nice....

clever mortar
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There are already a bunch of unofficial apps being written

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There exists an iOS app because somebody wanted to create one, and they happened to be a developer of HA already

fickle kayak
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Android by far is the most widely used OS for mobile, and I would think that a platform such as HA that is used widely by people who like to tinker (no pun intended) under the hood, that an Android app would be created

clever mortar
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Sure

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This is open source

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Nobody is stopping anybody from doing that

fickle kayak
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true. I wont be the one to make it, I don't know anything about app development ๐Ÿ˜‰

clever mortar
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Remember, developers put the effort into the things that interest them, not what you want

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There's already a bunch of ways you can get notifications to an Android phone, plus obviously the Lovelace UI works on Android

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There's little actual need for an Android app

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Other than folks that want it all in one place

fickle kayak
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That is true to a certain extent...if they only did what interests them and not the community, then I feel the community would leave to find other platforms that listen to what they want to see

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I would just like to get notifications sent to my phone when a sensor is tripped, I can use the web interface via the Cloud to control stuff

clever mortar
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So, there's a host of ways to achieve the first already - pick one

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Heck, there's even native support without any apps

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Remote access through cloud is coming

fickle kayak
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I have the Cloud setup with DuckDNS and can control it, but I am unaware of getting notifications sent through. Guess I need to do some more Google-fu

clever mortar
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~notify.html5

velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
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Honestly, in the last two years (sheesh, that long already) I've never felt the need for an app on Android

low harness
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I think thatโ€™s the main reason thereโ€™s no android app. Some people have started on one, but realized it wouldnโ€™t add much over the web app.

fickle kayak
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This Notify.html seems like it may work, I have Chrome on my Android (obviously). Guess i just need to set this up and see what it does. Thanks!

clever mortar
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It sends native notifications ๐Ÿ˜‰

fickle kayak
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one last question...i notice that when messing around with configuring, one little extra space will make HA not boot. I have found sometimes in the past I need to wipe and start over. What is the best way to do this easier? Would it just be to take a backup image of my SD card before messing around, or is there a better way in case HA wont boot?

clever mortar
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Any time you change the config check it

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Secondly, wipe and start over is the nuclear option. The log tells you what the problem is, you just have to fix it

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Worst case, Home Assistant won't start - the host still will though

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But yes, you absolutely should be taking automated backups regularly, and keeping them off the HA system

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~backup

velvet horizonBOT
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Be sure to regularly, automatically, back up your Home Assistant install. There are various critical files and configuration options (like the Z-Wave network key), plus all your time. Hass.io has snapshots, and for unix type installs see https://blog.ceard.tech/2017/10/backing-up-home-assistant.html. Oh, and most important of all test your ability to restore regularly.

clever mortar
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~yaml @fickle kayak

velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
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Read that one - and obviously all the other docs - but that one covers formatting

fickle kayak
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i do understand Yaml mostly, just sometimes I make a mistake. I will absolutely check the config from an SSH connection. This works without having to reload HA, right? ( I mean, it seems that after reloading you would already be live on the new config, just not sure if check config would work if it's not live)

clever mortar
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Yes

fickle kayak
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cool

clever mortar
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You do it before reloading the config, or restarting Home Assistant

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Don't reboot the host

fickle kayak
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that def helps

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understood

delicate pollen
fickle kayak
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Thanks @delicate pollen I will do that now

primal laurel
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Hi everyone๐Ÿ˜Š

clever mortar
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.rank is the command you're after

slim rampartBOT
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dynoError That rank doesn't exist.

clever mortar
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other

primal laurel
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Oh, the bot says it's ?rank

clever mortar
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Ah, yes, that's the other bot

primal laurel
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Wow, I can't read tonight

clever mortar
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Too many bots, not enough โ˜•

primal laurel
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Never too many

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@primal laurel, you joined Other.

lone cargo
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is there a "better" ios app?

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like a progressive web app version

pure vine
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my hacktoberfest t-shirt arrived

midnight adder
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@brazen robin

brazen robin
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Thanks

midnight adder
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That's a node.

delicate pollen
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General question for the Discord Chat platform: Does anyone know whether it would be possible for our Community Home Assistant channels to turn on Conversation Threads? Asking as it can be challenging returning to Discord and trying to catch up on an interesting topic, especially if more discussions are ongoing in the same channel. Im thinking of the Thread feature in Slack, Twist and Microsoft Teams? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

light trout
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AFAIK Discord does not have that, and even with that (I use it in Teams) some users does not get the concept of it and starts a new thread instead of replying in the thread, making it even harder to folow ๐Ÿคท

delicate pollen
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@light trout You are right, however if just 70 % of the threads were in Threads it would be much easier to jump in to a channel.

clever mortar
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Yet, Discord doesn't support it, so it's all theoretical anyway ๐Ÿ˜‰

light trout
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maybe if and that is a big if, all users will use it, and that is not going to happen

delicate pollen
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@clever mortar - just found out - anyways maybe it would be coming in future updates, cause the platform really matches everything else ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

mighty summit
clever mortar
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Use InfluxDB ๐Ÿ˜‰

mighty summit
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yikes...did not want that preview of the url ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

clever mortar
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You forgot to wrap the url in < ... >

mighty summit
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i didn't forget, i never knew mindblown

clever mortar
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It's disabled by default in most channels, but left in some so that people can post images etc

mighty summit
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thx, fixed it

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so, "use influxdb" ... ? means migrate from sqlite to influxdb , and influxdb offers the possibility to export before purge ?

clever mortar
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Nope

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~influxdb

velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
#

You can send all the data to InfluxDB too

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And then keep the long term data there, rather than in HA

mighty summit
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ah-hah

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that, my good(f) sir, answers my question.

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goof ?

light trout
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goof sir ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
#

That sounds about right ๐Ÿ˜„

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I started playing with it yesterday

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The only downside is that if it disconnects from InfluxDB it won't try to reconnect, so you have to restart

mighty summit
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ouch

delicate pollen
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would this be the recommend, or best, solution for storing data for later reports etc

clever mortar
#

๐Ÿคท

delicate pollen
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

clever mortar
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Depends on what you want to achieve

mighty summit
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to hoard all the dataz

clever mortar
#

Depends too on what other software you're using, that'll talk to that db

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Influx is designed for long term time series data

delicate pollen
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Really just some e.g. Lovelace (future) cards with some graf on temp and KWh for more than one day, e.g. with the ability to go back in time

clever mortar
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That sounds like InfluxDB and Grafana

delicate pollen
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Regarding the re-connecting of Influx if dis-connected - any workaround or only restart?

clever mortar
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Restart, until some developer addresses that

mighty summit
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restart the add-on ? or HA ?

clever mortar
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HA

mighty summit
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ufff

clever mortar
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Yeah

delicate pollen
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yahh

light trout
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Hahahahahahahahahahah HA

clever mortar
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There's a historical issue, but at the time the response was very much a "so what"

delicate pollen
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Any suggestion on where to host the DB ... only have the Rasp on premise .....

clever mortar
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Another Pi?

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That's what I did. I've got a Pi with an SSD attached

delicate pollen
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ha ha yeah a possibly

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You got a point - and in-fact I have an additional pi and a HDD soo

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Well then - perfect Christmas project ๐Ÿ˜„ better get started. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

compact ridge
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@compact ridge, you joined Other.

clear ferry
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@clever mortar storage more worth than the compute then? ๐Ÿ˜‚

acoustic monolith
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@acoustic monolith, you joined Other.

fickle kayak
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I am watching a video right now on MQTT because I keep hearing people talk about it....but I don't understand, what can MQTT be used for in HA? Examples of things to do?

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Is MQTT used to control things that aren't Z-Wave capable? Like a desk lamp...I would need an RPi to be the MQTT Client and then it would somehow control the lamp?

dry cairn
fickle kayak
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@dry cairn Thanks for the help ๐Ÿ˜‰

tropic hedge
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my apartment bedroom & bathroom door are officially being monitored by HA now, w00t. (yay Konnected)

quasi gust
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Hi :)

orchid rose
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MQTT can be used to easily communicate between devices and applications through a local host that stores all the communication

eager trench
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re the data scince portal announcement...... where is the correct place to report problems?

pure vine
eager trench
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I'm getting an addon is not allowed to connect to db error

chilly nymph
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How is everyone tonight?

#

I'm installing hassio now for the first time. About time to see what all the fuss is about.

#

I presume it's as easy to package addins as it is components. ๐Ÿ˜…

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Though now I'm getting worried. First boot is going on 15 minutes lol

tropic hedge
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it's probably done then. It doesn't do anything special on the console once it's loaded

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oh that message was an hour and a half ago so you probably realized that by now

west moss
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anyone know if you can "clean" your "have i been pwned" list? lets say your email is in there, you go and change the password, can you then clean out the list again? no point reporting you have leaked cridentials after you have changed them

clever mortar
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Nope, because they don't know, and can't know

west moss
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well that kinda sucks :/

clever mortar
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Sign up the the email notifications, then you only get told about the new ones

west moss
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would be cool if we could create a user, add our emails and then we could clean out the "old" data ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

clever mortar
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That'd be a nightmare for Troy Hunt to support

light trout
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That will not help, that is just one collection of breached DB's, the info will still be out there

clever mortar
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Ayup

west moss
light trout
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why?

clever mortar
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All that matters is that the state changes, if it changes, you have a new report

west moss
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because atm i got 3 known leaks on one of my emails, they have all been sorted out, but having a sensor say 3 all the time would not be as good ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

clever mortar
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But your data is still leaked, and it's not just your email address and password, there's usually other data

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And, only three? Sheesh

light trout
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I only have 11 (3 different accounts) ๐Ÿ˜›

clever mortar
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I've got more than that in just one ๐Ÿ˜›

west moss
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i got 5 total i think, 3 in one account then 2 on another account (but both of those 2 are same sites as on the main account)

clever mortar
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Given the main variations I use of my primary email address, I've got over 20 breaches on that one alone, with just those main variations

west moss
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but if i just use the haveibeenpwned sensor as it is, i would need to remember the number of breaches for each account to look for changes :/ would be nice if it could just be a binary sensor to tell if there's been a new one

clever mortar
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No

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Write an automation

west moss
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how can i write an automation to check if it increases :/ ?

clever mortar
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Don't remember anything, that's what the system is for

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State trigger

west moss
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state trigger only tells me if it changes right? but then i would need to edit the config and change "from" and "to" properties after a breach? sure its still better than remembering, but would be nice to have it more automatic

clever mortar
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Nope

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Please read the link ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Triggers when the state of a given entity changes. If only entity_id is given trigger will activate for all state changes, even if only state attributes change

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If only entity_id is given trigger will activate for all state changes (emphasis mine)

light trout
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Then you can create a notify action for it:

"New HaveIBeenPwned breach! old value{{ trigger.from_state.state }}, new value {{ trigger.to_state.state }}"

edit: Got an 'e' from @clever mortar that now has been added.

clever mortar
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I've got quite a few automations that are like that

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(for what @light trout refers to)

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Even with his mis-spelling of state, have another ๐Ÿ‡ช @light trout

west moss
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yea, but if only entity_id is given, it triggers when home-assistant starts up and the value if first updated to? atleast thats something i ahve had issues with before

clever mortar
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You can handle that easily with a condition check, to ensure that the previous state wasn't unknown

west moss
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oooh ok

light trout
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{{ ! is_state('sensor.sensor_name', None) }}

clever mortar
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Personally, given I use a password manager and unique passwords everywhere, I've stopped worrying about the breaches. Particularly after some of the proper big ones I've been in

light trout
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Same here, and 2FA where supported

west moss
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well, i use password manager aswell, but would be nice to know eitherway, then i can easly go in and update where the breach has been

clever mortar
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Oh yes

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I have 2FA everywhere that supports it, including here ๐Ÿ˜‰

light trout
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here as in Home Assistant, or Discord or Both? ๐Ÿ˜„

west moss
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i was woundering the same thing .P

clever mortar
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Discord, so far

light trout
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

clever mortar
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Home Assistant is already locked behind two different layers of auth

light trout
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I only have one for HA (not exposed anywhere) so if someone get to it, I have bigger issues then automations..

clever mortar
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๐Ÿ˜„

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Yeah, if my home network gets popped, Home Assistant is the least of my worries

hearty depot
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I realy should enable http basic auth..

clever mortar
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If you've got a proxy, then running some form of auth there is a nice other layer of security

hearty depot
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Nginx so far - should be easy - but realy affraid to brake some stuff

clever mortar
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My config (for an old version of NGINX) is on my Github

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As for the avatar, and ID, well, somebody was talking towels ๐Ÿ˜‰

hearty depot
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O_o

clever mortar
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If you've never read the series, listened to the radio show, watched the TV show, or the movie (all of which are different, but similar), then the references probably don't mean anything

hearty depot
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already googled talking towels - but got distracted by github - oh look a cent!

clever mortar
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๐Ÿ˜„

hearty depot
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ah! the hitchhikers guide!

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saw the movie - and read 50 sites of the book - Then I got the lord of the ring from my grandpa - never finished

clever mortar
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LOTR is harder going, because it's so big. HHGTTG is smaller, and lighter weight (though, a 5 part trilogy...)

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The original BBC TV series is what got me into it, then I read the books, and enjoyed the movie. I think I've heard the radio series, but it was a long time ago ๐Ÿ˜„

hearty depot
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Was it the radio show where the people paniced because they thourght it where real news? ( there is a talk with a friend maybe 15 jears ago in the back of my head)

clever mortar
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That'll be the original Orson Welles one, War of the Worlds

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Which was delivered as a "news" broadcast

orchid rose
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also it's probably marketing hype that people were actually scared of it ๐Ÿ˜›

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people knew how to go viral even back then

hearty depot
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Nice - guess what I start listening soon xD
nope - ll probably go for the the radio show ๐Ÿ˜‰

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lol Orson Welles is from 1938

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oh no - the radio remake was from 1968

quiet cobalt
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how was every one xmas ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

light trout
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Short

midnight adder
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I think on some level I'm addicted to HA. ๐Ÿค”
My system has been down past two weeks and is going to be for the next month due to moving to a new house. I read about all the new cool stuff and forum posts and can't do anything myself :D Feels terrible :D

wet pilot
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Lol

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One of us

dry cairn
clever mortar
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And, that looks suspiciously like spam

normal ferry
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guys quick poll: where do you prefer installing your temperature/humidity sensors ? center of the room? furniture close to walls? walls themselves? floor? ceiling?

wintry crow
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I pick the centre of a non-window, non-radiator wall, somewhere between sitting and standing chest height so it gives what I think is a real feel temperature reading

amber bramble
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everyone is changing their names and pictures and i no longer know what is real ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
#

Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon. Then you'll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself

wintry crow
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Makes eating a yoghurt kinda messy tho tbh Tinkerer

quasi gust
#

hm

amber bramble
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what the heck certbot

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trying to renew my cert and its telling me congrats, your new cert has been saved at x and will expire 1 day past the expiration date of the old cert

clever mortar
#

๐Ÿคฃ

dry cairn
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hassio policy for new certs

chilly nymph
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Do any of you use any of the 433 mhz outlets with HA?

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If so, what are your thoughts in terms of reliability etc?

clever mortar
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You probably want to mention what part of the world you're in ๐Ÿ˜‰

chilly nymph
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This may not be the right channel...

clever mortar
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Well, the topic says not ๐Ÿ˜‰

chilly nymph
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Ok. I'll move over there. Thanks @clever mortar !

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I wasn't sure since it was more of a hardware question than a HA question

midnight adder
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hi there, I'm completely new to home automation, and am currently analysing wireless connexion technologies

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there's a truckload of them, and I'd like to make an educated choice ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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correct me if I'm wrong, but most of them are proprietary, and most of them suffer from poor security

tawdry axle
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hello boys and girls

midnight adder
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am I missing something ?

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is one of them favored ?

tawdry axle
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well i am still new

#

but from what i have seen is deal with the lack of security by keeping all IOT devices on a separate subnet that is firewalled from the rest of your network

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i need to rebuild my home file server and I am looking for options

midnight adder
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I don't mean security for the IT network, but for the IoT network itself

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I don't want a neighbour or anyone having control or the possibility to harm my home

tawdry axle
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well do not let that subnet hit the outside world

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that should keep 99% of the crap out

midnight adder
#

that's not a subnet problem,

#

or even an IT network problem

tawdry axle
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are you thinking that the attack will come from your wireless network?

midnight adder
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the wireless IoT network, not the IT network

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z-wave, zigbee,...

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they all suffer from security weaknesses

tawdry axle
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i am just not that worried about an attack vector that means you have to be within a few 100 yards of my house

midnight adder
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my neighbour is within 1 yard of my house ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

tawdry axle
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yes but how many of them have the skills

midnight adder
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my front door is on the street

tawdry axle
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yes but someone would have to care enough to come to your house and break into your network

midnight adder
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and I'm making the exercise to maybe provide that service to businesses

tawdry axle
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well that will change something's

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if it is for company's i would not do wireless and go all wired

midnight adder
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wired does not seem that much secured as well

tawdry axle
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well they have to get on the network

midnight adder
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I read about KNX, which is completely open

tawdry axle
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if all wired that is much harder

midnight adder
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plugging a device is not hard at all

tawdry axle
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if there network is setup correctly it is hard to plug in

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and if they are inside of my company you are screwed

midnight adder
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I know that I'm a bit paranoid, but from my IT background I know that if something bad can happen, something bad will happen

tawdry axle
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if they want to do you harm they put a gun to your head and do or take what they want

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i have been a system admin for years in a DOD environment ......you are over thinking this

midnight adder
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meeting rooms, waiting rooms, offices,... there are plenty of occasions to be there and be able to plug something in the mains

tawdry axle
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yes but only the guest network

midnight adder
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again you're considering the IT network

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I'm worried about the IoT network: zigbee, knx, whatever

tawdry axle
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ok why is there an open port to your iot network in a meeting room?

midnight adder
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any mains plug is a port to your IoT network

tawdry axle
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wait what?????

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only if you are sending signals over the mains

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and i would not do that

midnight adder
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I wouldn't either, but it's the only practical way to add automation to an existing installation

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that, or wireless

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and afaik none of them is secure

tawdry axle
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pay the money and run the wires

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automation is very much a luxury and you pay for luxury

midnight adder
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well, I don't agree ๐Ÿ˜ƒ But this is getting away from my main questions: are there wireless IoT technologies that are really secure ?

tawdry axle
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mqt?

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no real clue

#

i have not looked into the security side of things

midnight adder
#

If your home is isolated, you obviously are a lot less concerned

tawdry axle
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i live in the suburbs

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but i know how far my wireless network goes

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and they would have to be close to me

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and i have a big home wireless network

midnight adder
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I'm not concerned about my home wifi, that's quite well secured

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my questionning is exclusively on the IoT side of things

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if anyone can play with my lights, heating system,... that's a big no go

tawdry axle
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yep nothing that can hurt me will go on the internet

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i think i need to get off my ass and setup a new unraid server

dry cairn
#

๐Ÿคท

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headscratcher

rocky prairie
#
Home Assistant

Detect and recognize faces with Facebox.

Hackster.io

Perform facial recognition on a doorbell camera and announce who is home over text-to-speech. All data capture and processing is local. By Juan Perez and Robin Cole.

storm summit
#

@rocky prairie heh. i remember reading that page when i set mine up.

#

you probably don't want to hear it but I Didn't think it was hard. especially since its packaged in a docker container.

wet pilot
#

<@&330946878646517761> here too

tidal bronze
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@wet pilot Taken care of

wet pilot
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Thanks!

#

Sorry for the blast, figured you guys would want to see it quickly

foggy flint
#

Anyone thought of a component for fitbark? https://www.fitbark.com/ They have an API: https://www.fitbark.com/dev/

FitBark monitors your dogโ€™s everyday activity & sleep and turns it into actionable behavioral and medical insights. Fitness at both ends of the leash!

The FitBark Open API enables developers and dog healthcare professionals to seamlessly integrate FitBark data sets into third party mobile and web apps.

clever mortar
#

You could raise a request in the Feature Requests section of the forum?

foggy flint
#

Someone already made one i see.

#

Their api signup seems so official ๐Ÿ˜„

still moth
#

I have added some replacment switches to HA and seem to have the old ones still showing on the front end. Do i have to edit the edit json file in home assistant, if so were do I look?

clever mortar
#

This is the channel for non-HA related chat ๐Ÿ˜‰

still moth
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sorry wrong forum

jolly fog
#

?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@jolly fog, you joined Other.

quiet cobalt
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Happy new year guy's thanks for all your help me and my silly questions.

merry hearth
#

i wish evereyone a happy new year!

rocky prairie
#

@storm summit would you have time to help me troubleshoot maybe some remote support any help is appreciated

rigid patio
#

?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@rigid patio, you joined Other.

storm summit
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@rocky prairie sure. what-cha got?

vernal chasm
#

?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@vernal chasm, you joined Other.

clever mortar
#

Well, it's officially 2019 here now, so ๐ŸŽ‰

#

Happy New Year all

amber bramble
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still got 5 hours to go me

light trout
#

Welcome to version 2019 @clever mortar ๐ŸŽ‰

clever mortar
#

๐Ÿ‘‹

quartz ether
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TinkererToday at 1:00 PM.... bit behind mate

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๐Ÿ˜›

rocky prairie
#

@storm summit I could share my desktop so you could see what I have in homeassistant and see if I'm missing something or do I voice chat share desktop if you have time

vale shale
#

9:21 here

wet pilot
#

22:30

wet pilot
#

Lol Anderson Cooper is drunk in NYC

rain oxide
#

Alright

#

Time for theorycrafting.

#

I want to make HA notify me in advance of rain incoming, and I've made a super simple automation

#
- alias: Rain Notification 0
  trigger:
    - platform: state
      entity_id: sensor.weather_0_condition
      to: 'Rain'
    - platform: state
      entity_id: sensor.weather_0_condition
      to: 'Showers'
  action:
    service: notify.homeassistant
    data_template:
      title: 'Rain Warning'
      message: "It's going to rain today."
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Now the conundrum is

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This is going to fire off every time yweather changes the state to Rain or Showers.

#

Is there a way to make automations do like

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Once a day?

#

Oh found a good enough solution using input_boolean

quartz ether
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@rain oxide this is the #the-water-cooler please post over in #330944238910963714 and you will get the help you need. Please read the topics of the channels to make sure you are posing tin the right place

rain oxide
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Ah gotcha, sorry about that.

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I'll keep it in mind.

dry cairn
reef abyss
#

Nasa spam?

magic bobcat
#

Hello all ๐Ÿ˜ƒ can i ask if someone know if action.devices.types.BLINDS (that is not actually documented by google but work well) and is using open/close would be soon intagrated ?

hearty depot
#

Happy New Year!
Who else ate waaay to much?

wet pilot
#

@magic bobcat it's on my list

midnight adder
#

Bit of a side question regarding fstab if anyone can help. I've setup a nas drive so I can backup my hass config. But Im a bit lost on the fstab line. anyone know how to add a username/password to the line?

clever mortar
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So @midnight adder what are you trying to mount, from where, and on what?

#

You're running Hass.io, or something else, to get Home Assistant?

midnight adder
#

My Pi to my MyCloud drive: Rasbian stretch.

clever mortar
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The MyCloud, does that have NFS? Or is it SMB (Windows)?

midnight adder
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nfs. If needs a username for write access (I dont want to make it public) so I need to some how include the nas username as part of the line.

clever mortar
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NFS won't need a username for write access, it'll just be mapping the UID and GID

midnight adder
#

When I try to overwrite old files I get a "Read only file system" error.

clever mortar
#

192.168.1.100:/home/client1 /mnt/nfs/home/client1 nfs rw,sync,hard,intr 0 0

#

That's because the UID doesn't match

#

NFS shares the file system "as is" (mostly), so if your file is owned by UID 101 on the remote system, you need to be UID 101 on the system you mount it to if you want to write to those files

#

You can work around that in dangerous ways, but it's really to be avoided

midnight adder
#

how do I get the UID's to match? My HA user is (Homeassistant) where my Nas user is (PersonalName)

clever mortar
#

On HA do id when you're homeassistant, it'll give you lots of useful info

#

(just bringing up a shell)

#

It'll give you the UID of that user

#

Now if you look at the mounted file system, you can do ls -ln to see the UID and GID

#

Ideally you want to create a matching user on the NAS, with the same UID and GID, to own that file share

midnight adder
#

I guess I could create a seperate username for it. I'd had been backing it up to a private share I already had. But I could create a new one.

clever mortar
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That's the "right" way

wintry crow
#

I am NEVER drinking again

light trout
#

Give it a week ๐Ÿ˜„

wet pilot
#

Probably until Thursday

cosmic plinth
#

Hello guys , can someone suggest some firmware like tasmota with easy gui but for arduino mega with ethernet shield :/ ?

royal hatch
#

any chance we can get a sub directory for HA Dashboard ?

#

#dashboard

light trout
#

Do not use that unless something "is on fire"!

last plaza
#

@royal hatch DO NOT summon mods unless it is am emergency

royal hatch
#

my bad ! didnt know

light trout
royal hatch
#

sorry i corrected the post

#

ok thank you

ripe cairn
#

So I'm a newbie to ha / hassio. I built my Pi yesterday and got everything installed and have been playing with the setup today. I've gotten so far as to detecting my iPhone connecting to the wifi and pushing notification about that. I feel like I've accomplished something! Now to start spending money and buying bits and pieces to automate.

dry cairn
wet pilot
#

Huh, didn't do that to me in Mobile

dry cairn
#

well thats not from the browser lol

wet pilot
#

Yeah, ad cancer

dry cairn
#

but thats what the redirects do and the latter is trying to exploit chrome

wet pilot
#

Wonder if we can set the bot to restrict image sharing sites

dry cairn
#

doubt it prolly have to hit up skalavala to implement that

light trout
#

other than a couple of adds, it behaves here ๐Ÿคท

last plaza
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@dry cairn looks like your machine is running ad/spyware

dry cairn
#

lol no

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it just caught it

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its trying to run the chrome exploit lol

midnight adder
#

Discord autoplays images... wonder how long until we get a virus written specifically for it

dry cairn
#

shhhhhhh

#

now you jinxed it

midnight adder
#

Well, we're almost there

#

I am going to patent it so I can sue when it happens

dry cairn
#

lol

midnight adder
#
  • the letter E
#

I'll be RICH!!

dry cairn
#

k

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fwiw that was a caught by my appliance i pipe my customers through

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sooo i tend to believe my stuff more then virustotal

thick crypt
#

Al scans say it was safe. So I'd better check your browser ๐Ÿ˜‰

dry cairn
#

it wasn t my browser

dry cairn
cerulean totem
#

forums down ?

reef abyss
#

@cerulean totem yes for me too.

lyric sage
#

same thing happened last night too... maintenance?

reef abyss
#

Hard to say, particuarly as it is holiday time. If someone is going to do maintenance, they should put a page that says so.

inland path
#

Sadly this messed the only chance I've had in a while to troubleshoot some project. Without the forums I can't do anything : /

daring cobalt
#

@lyric sage any idea how long they were down last night?

reef abyss
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@daring cobalt a few hours at least. I woke up in the morning and all was working again.

proven mural
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I was thinking it was only me

wet pilot
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From 22:38 to 03:04 America/new_york

ember basin
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ ๐Ÿ˜ซ ๐Ÿ’ฉ

hollow spindle
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@hollow spindle, you joined Other.

wet pilot
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Forums should be back

light trout
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Correct, this is the nat thingy (NAT loopback/hairpinning), if your router does not support that @novel jacinth it will not work

novel jacinth
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@light trout Thanks need to check my router. It is a Fritzbox so maybe this will not be possible -.-
But have to try

clever mortar
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Fritz!Box routers do support it, at least on some firmwares

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I know, I have one ๐Ÿ˜‰

light trout
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An other possibility will be to have your DNS server resolve your duckdns domain to a local IP

novel jacinth
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@clever mortar Is it the dns rebind thing in the FritzOs? I have a 6490 cable with latest firmware

clever mortar
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Don't know what it's called, let me check, I know on my DSL router it just worked

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As that post from them says, I'm not seeing any such option

novel jacinth
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okay, then I think it is my setup. checking...

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So I run Hass.io on my ubuntu machine.
I know I have to remove the ssl stuff in the http component, otherwise home assistant will serve ssl instead the nginx proxy

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My home assistant is available through localip:8123
https://subdomain.duckdns.org is not available in the browser. However it resolve to my external IP
When I go to external-IP:443 i see the home assistant webinterface
This is done from my local network

proven spruce
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depends on your server config in nginx

clever mortar
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If it doesn't work from mobile, then it's not NAT reflection

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If it works as https://external-ip:443/ from inside your network then NAT reflection is working ๐Ÿ˜‰

novel jacinth
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https://external-ip:443 gets me to my log in screen for home assistant

clever mortar
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Then NAT reflection is working

proven spruce
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what is the nginx config?

novel jacinth
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@proven spruce I am using the nginx proxy add on for hass.io and just added my subdomain.duckdns.org

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but i can exec into the docker container and have a look

proven spruce
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also did you port forward 443 to your hass ip in the router?

novel jacinth
proven spruce
novel jacinth
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yeah, I did replace it for the hastebin

proven spruce
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it looks on nginx side

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calls to :80 port are pushed to :443 and / is the directory that sends you to hass ip

novel jacinth
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I think I have to check my forwarding. I did come from a setup with duckdns where I did not had port 8123 like i have now for the local network

proven spruce
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now its a question whether you can access ports 80 and 443 from outside your network

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probably port forwarding issue

novel jacinth
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On it. Thanks for the directions!

proven spruce
novel jacinth
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I think the problem is now me and that user interface to configure the ports.
๐Ÿ˜„

proven spruce
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from what i saw of those fritzboxes the problem is them mostly

novel jacinth
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yeah, they have build in german angst

clever mortar
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I've had no issues with mine, and it's way better than the Thompson POS that I had before it

novel jacinth
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Yeah I like them too, I know that I am failing now :D
But nmap says 443/tcp open https
And if I connect to my-external-ip:443 it works
Stell on mydomain.duckdns.org it does not work

proven spruce
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ooh don't get me started on thompson/technicolor

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is your duckdns regularly updated with your current ip?

novel jacinth
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yeah, dyndns is configured and works. Just checked IP to be safe and it is the same

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I am not sure about 127.0.0.1 as trusted proxy though

proven spruce
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thats fine since nginx is the proxy and its on localserver

novel jacinth
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and my router will forward 443 to 8123 to my static ip where hass.io is running

proven spruce
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umm no

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you forward 443 to 443

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then nginx does the rest of the forwarding

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since it listens to :80 and :443

novel jacinth
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you are totally right!

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Like every time. When you do it right it just works ๐Ÿ˜„

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@proven spruce Thank you for spotting the obvious to me dummy

proven spruce
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yeah but its easy to get lost in all the configs

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trust me i went throught the same ordeal when setting up my stuff

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after 2 hours of searching for a solution in the end i forgot to save port forwarding config in my router

novel jacinth
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yeah. It is mosty that. At work we have a dns provider where you have to save twice to get the change done.
it is almost daily that someone says dns is not working... -.-

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now I need to test if everything is working like before, before she comes back.
I bet google assistant will do something to me

edgy pilot
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Hey all. Newbie to HA, and building up a list of questions...

but first a discord related one. The welcome bot message refers to a channel that doesn't seem to exist, so maybe that message needs updating?
"Head over to #deleted-channel channel and run the command ~help to get started."

novel jacinth
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The home assistant updater is collecting some data from the system, at least on hass.io.
Is it possible to see what people are using regarding the hardware?

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@light trout
The welcome message on discord seems to be not broken outdated as @edgy pilot dicovered

light trout
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not broken, just outdated

novel jacinth
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@proven spruce and @clever mortar Thanks again for helping with the nginx proxy. My isp killed my internet connection a few minutes ago but I still can access ha locally. Close one.

clever mortar
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Ouch

midnight adder
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Hi everyone
I have made a guide to explain how to get a proper Hassio install done on Debian 9.6
Can someone check it out and give some feedback?
If it's going the right direction I'll continue making it.

clever mortar
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You should ask in #330990055533576204 - but there are already scripts in the pinned messages there to do that for you, so you may find that the problem is solved for you ๐Ÿ˜‰

midnight adder
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Thx @clever mortar, pinned messages are nice, but not the right way to document things. That however is again a point of view

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(It's based on what Frenck did of course)

clever mortar
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Not ideal I agree, but ๐Ÿคท Discord ain't a documentation method ๐Ÿ˜‰

molten flax
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I've spent a bit of time googling and seen a few ideas for this, but does anyone know of the easiest method i could deploy with hass to get alexa to be able to say, switch to the apple TV or change tv volume (lg webos 3.0)

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i can say increase the volume, and it will only support increment of 1

queen cradle
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good morning, afternoon, and evening to all.

midnight adder
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here

dapper dragon
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Hey

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So back to the soho talk: cisco meraki is basically coming down from the big iron enterprise world into smaller offerings and they basically support every protocol under the sun, UBNT on the other hand is still sorely lacking basic features in their network stack. Pretty good now on the wifi-side though

midnight adder
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Listen, I'm an Enterprise Architect specialized in Infra. I basicly predict together with UBNT, Cisco, Alcatel, HPe, HP, Microsoft, MicroFocus, Oracle... the future

dapper dragon
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If ubnt had some more powerful firewalls and basic l3 features they'd absolutely kill in this space

midnight adder
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I know it looks strange, but Cisco has already dropped Linksys once, came back because the market reacted stragely, and they'll do it again

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All boils down it the traditional networking will continue as we know it, or that we will not fully move into L7 FW

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And nobody knows

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IP in it's current form starts to cost too much money energy wise, its so badly designed, it will not to make place for something better

dapper dragon
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I don't see cisco moving into the same price bracket as ubnt.

midnight adder
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not cisco, but meraki

dapper dragon
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As long as meraki requires the subscription they can gift their hardware for what I care

midnight adder
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they still have linksys and that's the bottom of all bottoms in wifi today, it's ok if you are on the main AP, but don't start messing or everyting fails

dapper dragon
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I'm not going to move my control plane out to somebody else's cloud

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Linksys is now belkin

midnight adder
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depends on the situation

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at home, I fully agree, it's not the way forward

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in my region still branded as Linksys

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belkin are the accessories

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same bunch

dapper dragon
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The network stuff is going the way of the dodo anyways. It's been moving towards whitebox oem faster than I would have believed if I'd known.

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I don't get your IP and energy comment

midnight adder
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Ok, let me explain

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Some companies, big ass datancenters change their cabling from cat 6 to 7A

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that for a small gain in less power consomption

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estimated at about 2wh/connection

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*100k connections, that's a shitload of power

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got that?

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What if you can get even more out of that gain?

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TCP/IP is only functional up to 40% of it's rated capacity of the hardware layer

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So a saturated link = 40% use

dapper dragon
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Where do you get that number?

midnight adder
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the rest is chitchat, overhead, confirmatimation, pingpong, retransmit etc

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what nยฐ?

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The 40%

dapper dragon
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Yes

midnight adder
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that's a fact, that IP 1-0-1

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Lan connection, not WAN link speed!

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A 100Mb link can only support 40Mb packets

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rest is header info, hash, confirmation etc

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and that's a very highly loaded link

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GO above and you will spiral down, because of drops in queues and even more retransmits

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Other protocols, like FC have a throughtput of 80%

gusty umbra
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Anyone have experience with Phoniebox or similar projects? Basically an RFID/NFC reader triggered music player for Raspbian. The project is based on USB readers, and I have an Adafruit breakout board. I just cannot get it to work, and really want to finish this project for my daughter. I don't know any coding at all, but I believe it is something in the Python scripts that needs to be adjusted for looking at my GPIO UART instead of USB. I'll even drop a symbolic donation for anyone that can help me out!

midnight adder
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except, they are small based

dapper dragon
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So you're trying to tell me my 100mbit connection will only move 40mbit?

midnight adder
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LAN, not WAN

dapper dragon
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Lets just say there is no difference and assume we are talking ethernet

midnight adder
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File of a size 40 will need a size 100 to get thru, the rest are cops, checkpoint, paperwork, and mistakes

dapper dragon
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I think you might be a bit mistaken about how this stuff works. Sorry I'm not an enterprise architect, I'm just a lowly ops person and my networks run at something like 97-99% utilization when put to the test. And no-one uses cat7 in datacenters.

midnight adder
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Read this

dapper dragon
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It's all fibre, dac or cheap-ass patch

midnight adder
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That's my company

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It's not all fiber

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It's 50/50

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and fiber doesn't go above 40G, so ... serious?

dapper dragon
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Why would fibre not go above 40g?

midnight adder
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time needed between the signals and the time to decode them is too small

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You need duplexing of multiple Fibers to be able to do that, but that's nothing more then a trick

languid sphinx
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Looking forward to 50g landing in SR.

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Of course I havenโ€™t deployed anything 25g so ...

midnight adder
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nice

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@languid sphinx nice

dapper dragon
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Somehow they must have missed your lessons at the DC colo we have our gear at.

midnight adder
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A business friend - Saudie Arabia

dapper dragon
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They have very little copper and mostly glass... and somehow they put 100g or more on a single fibre....

midnight adder
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25 and 40 G in copper for DC

dapper dragon
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Show me a nic please....

midnight adder
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ I can send you a piece of cable and/or a connector

dapper dragon
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Cables are nice and everything but copper takes more power than fibre optics in a DC, it is worse to handle in a full rack and I doubt it would even be cost effective.

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To me it seems like a solution looking for a problem

midnight adder
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If you like to know the numbers, I can ask them

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I just know some big DC's upgraded their LAN cabling just for a 2w gain

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And that's enormous, looking at the cost to do the cabling

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anyway, got to go to sleep

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L8ter

hidden finch
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Got my first Roomba...woot!

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This little guy is pretty smart so far

cerulean totem
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forum down again ?

main pasture
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@cerulean totem I was wondering the same thing as it's not working for me either. So I would say yes.

tall vine
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I was just about to post about this

cerulean totem
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yeah saw someone say it was back up this morning

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@dull chasm Forums down ?

dull chasm
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yes sir

cerulean totem
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anything we can do to help ?

dull chasm
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cross your fingers

cerulean totem
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something broke ? lol

atomic zephyr
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someone plug the toaster back in ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

dull chasm
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they been going up and down....guessing server load

cerulean totem
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Money ?

dull chasm
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they correct people have been notified

tall vine
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Or unplug the server to vacuum

cerulean totem
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I see you updated you pic , Looks nice

dull chasm
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me?

cerulean totem
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yeah, i haven't been on in a while

dull chasm
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oh ok ....yea its a 11th centry cross

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thanks

inland path
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Forums down again for the second consecutive night

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๐Ÿ˜•

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Maybe they're running the forum software on a raspberry pi as well...

upbeat raptor
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Hi. Im having problems getting the community forums to come up. I just get a blank page. That the case for anyone else?

tough igloo
upbeat raptor
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AH, I see now it looks like it is not just me. Thanks.

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Thanks

tough igloo
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No worries

tough igloo
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Anyone have a uniview (UNV) NVR security camera set up? The cameras I can get into home assistant fine but I was wondering if anyone has managed to get the motion detection from the NVR into HA? I've had a look at docs but can't figure it out

crisp perch
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Hello people

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I'm new

wary mortar
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are the forums down?

faint violet
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yes

wary mortar
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ah i read up thanks

tough igloo
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Anyone see that the Xiaomi Gateway now supports Ikea devices?

versed eagle
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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dynoError That role no longer exists.

orchid rose
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Is there a way to open a URL without any browser popping up? Some sort of script or command line command? I'm on Windows if that makes a difference

clever mortar
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What are you trying to do?

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There are many command line clients that might work, but it depends on what you're after

orchid rose
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control kodi through the web interface to go to a specific channel. There might be some other way to do that as well but not sure how all of it works ๐Ÿ˜›

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with the URL I'm able to change it but I don't know how to stop it from opening the browser

novel jacinth
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Do you want to control it with Home Assistant?

orchid rose
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not needed

novel jacinth
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there is always curl even for windows

orchid rose
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it's just a few favorite channels on my Harmony remote that I need to send to Kodi

clever mortar
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Yup, curl, wget and so on

novel jacinth
orchid rose
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thanks, now I just have to figure out what it is and what it does ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

novel jacinth
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how does you harmony make a webrequst? Do not know this devices

orchid rose
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harmony command is sent to EventGhost which then can run stuff

novel jacinth
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so you map a key from the harmony to a function for eventghost and this can do what you want

orchid rose
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that's the idea yes

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but got stuck on how to get eventghost to open the url without the browser popping up

novel jacinth
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How does event ghost do that what you already accomplished?

orchid rose
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eventghost is sort of like tasker is for Android. It has plugins that allow you to do certain if-this-then-that type of functions. I have a MCE Remote receiver connected on my PC with a plugin running for it on EG and then some random remote controller set for Harmony remote to send commands to it

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I think it's some Sony DVD player remote or something. I set it up like 15 years ago. Has enough buttons to do stuff

novel jacinth
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when you already can send a webrequest there may be an option to do it without any output.
Otherwise I see they have python scripting and I bet there is a possibilty to make a webrequest with python ๐Ÿ˜‰
But this is something you have to figure out. I do not know enough python.

orchid rose
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I couldn't find a way to directly send a webrequest within eventghost, but instead I can run like python scripts etc to do it

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looks like curl might do the trick, thanks!

languid sphinx
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@tough igloo Do you have a link on that Ikea devices on a Xiaomi gateway?

waxen flame
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Hey all, spent some time over the holidays playing with a new toy (nuc). Was able to load up Ubuntu server, docker, hass, plus a number of other things to migrate my home lab setup from an old pe910. Thanks to you all setup was a breeze, and my electricity bill will be considerably less scary. Cheers!

pure vine
nova sky
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Anyone having cheap suggestions for good office chairs

clever mortar
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Depends on where you are in the world, but some of the Ikea chairs are highly rated

nova sky
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europe

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more specific germany

clever mortar
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Markus is the one that got lots of good reviews

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Not cheap cheap, but lots cheaper than those it was compared to

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I have one that's easily 5 years old, probably closer to 7, and it's still going strong

nova sky
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is it comfy tho

clever mortar
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Yes

languid sphinx
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I have a steelcase leap at work. Also very nice. Also way more than I'd spend for at home.

clever mortar
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And only ยฃ700 cheaper ๐Ÿ˜›

languid sphinx
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At home I have an Ikea Ektorp heh

clever mortar
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I'd have an Aeron or Steelcase if I could afford it for home use, but the Ikea is quite comfy

nova sky
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Imma take a look at it tomorrow at my local ikea, thanks mate

clever mortar
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NP

languid sphinx
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Well, I have 90% of the parts for the new volumio / pi-zero DAC which will drive the whole house speakers (other than the master bedroom which has it's own Pi3-Amp Hat running it). All I need now ... is the actual Pi Zero WH sigh.

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But once that is here, Alexa gets the boot from driving the house speakers and I can use node-red to issue verbal commands to every room in the house. My wife will be so pleased with this development ๐Ÿ˜„

light trout
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Special delivery for @granite hare ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ

granite hare
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I feel targeted

midnight adder
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hey all, ive just flashed tasmota onto a sonof basic to use for a table lamp....opened up the outer sheaf of the lamp plug wire and i dont see an earth cable...im in the UK so expected to see live, nuetral and earth, all i see is black and blue....safe to use, fused plug with a 3A fuse

clever mortar
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~crosspost @midnight adder

velvet horizonBOT
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@midnight adder Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

clever mortar
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And, read the channel topic

midnight adder
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oh, sorry

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knuckles rapped

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not strictly HA quesion though ๐Ÿ’

clever mortar
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If you'd waited a few hours, I could have understood, but ...

midnight adder
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yeah, apologies for that, didnt realise x-posting was not allowed

clever mortar
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Also, lots of the Sonoff devices don't support earth

midnight adder
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the basic doesnt, but as im in the uk ive never seen an appliance with no earth cable....i guess blue is live?

clever mortar
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It would appear to have L and N on the cover according to the pictures on their site

midnight adder
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yeah youre right @clever mortar , i was simply going to have the earth bypass the sonoff, guess i dont need too.

clever mortar
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Depends on what you're connecting it to really

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Some devices are double insulated and don't require earth, others aren't and do

midnight adder
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looks like its a dark brown + blue, with live being brown, neutral blue

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its a bedside table lamp

clever mortar
midnight adder
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nice link @clever mortar thanks

clever mortar
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No worries

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I've worked with folks from the power generation industry before, so I've had an introduction to some of the things to look out for

midnight adder
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seems to be a class II, so no earth required

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youre like the friggin oracle @clever mortar