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distant stream
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but i didnt go all in on the unifi

terse bobcat
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I wish i discovered HA before i bought the cloud key

stray perch
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I would get Unifi, but when my current router flashed with Tomato works, feel bad replacing it

terse bobcat
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haha that is fair, I work at MSFT as a Hyper-V / Azure architect, so i am biased on what technologies i use based on what i see out there in the real world

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I have a hyper-v core (free verson) shuttle PC running 1 vm for sophos with SR-IOV (gives you line rate network throughput) and a ubuntu server for kubernets and containers

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i can do infrastructure, but i suck at the coding side of HA

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that is my stretch goal for the year haha

stray perch
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ah, cool. I started using Hyper-V on my PC at work for virtualizing, instead of Virtualbox. got a few bugs but there's workarounds

terse bobcat
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if you have any bugs, shoot em at me - likely it is just a configuration or behavior issue

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as much as i love MSFT - one thing we don't do other big companies do

distant stream
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i loved hyper v, switch to proxmox just to learn it and stayed as most 99% of my lab is linux based but hyper v was great when i used it on server 2012

terse bobcat
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is we build products and tell customers how to use em. other companies build products based on how customers use em

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hyper-v was trash before 2012 R2

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<---- vmware certified architect (VCDX) so i can honestly say that

distant stream
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haha

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see ive never needed replication or enhanced sessions or anything like that

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liked the ease of use for the networking side

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wish templates were a thing but w/e

terse bobcat
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yeah but here is the thing, "ease" is just skillset. some ppl keep telling me HA is easier than vera. that is a skill thing

distant stream
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easy enough to copy a vhd

terse bobcat
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but - there are areasons vmware never realeases public performance metrics

distant stream
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l,ol

terse bobcat
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vmware - out of the box - runs for compatability with minimal skillset

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which i admire

distant stream
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yup

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def appreciated here

terse bobcat
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hyper-v implies you have a dedicated virtalization team that should know thier stuff

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ya know how many vmware admins that cant tell me how RSS works? or how resource gorups work? or what numa spanning is? haha

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vmware is AWESOME for the smbs because of this πŸ˜ƒ

distant stream
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for someone with minimal windows knowledge i was pleased with how easy hyper v was to get up and running

stray perch
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As my company is currently migrating to Windows 10, still got Windows 7 clients, so have to run Win7 guests.
Sometimes you boot and the login screen is completely blank, (Control +Alt+Delete) fixes it though.
Other issue is when running windows 7 sometimes it glitches out, while using and screen goes to the Starting windows logo and stays there.

terse bobcat
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that is just patching. most hyper-v chaps never update integration components

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and ya know we only support 6 months out of date

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because most hyper-v chaps dont know how to push integration componets via WSUS

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so they never get patched 😦

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anyway - think the wife just broke a pie plate! If you ever have any MSFT questoins, I can help. SOmeday, ill know enough about HA to be useful there too πŸ˜‰

stray perch
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Yeah might that I'm just running 1709 still :S

solar stag
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Happy Thanksgiving All, One thing I am Thankfull for is Floorplan... so here is a sneak peek of my new UI

amber bramble
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anyone know anything about the amazon wifi smart plugs?

strong hound
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Hi! May I ask you if someone has a Google Smart Display or an Assistant-enabled third party device?

wet pilot
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/me does

solar stag
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If Smart Display is A Home Hub... then I as well do

wintry plover
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Hello, anyone here experienced with making components for HA? Looking for help to make an integration for Smart LG Appliances (API Publicly available)

strong hound
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@solar stag yes, it's a smart display πŸ˜ƒ
Can you check if the ghlocalapi works?

clever mortar
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There's also docs @wintry plover

solar stag
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@strong hound I believe that question is over my head, How can I find out for you?

strong hound
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@solar stag
If you have the ip address of your home hub try that inside your browser:

http://<ip_addr>:8008/setup/eureka_info

wintry plover
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I'm not that familiar with python sadly, i did managed to get an old script from github to work tho and pull stats from my washing machine πŸ˜„

solar stag
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@strong hound done what am i looking for

strong hound
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if you see text on the page, it works πŸ˜ƒ

solar stag
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I see text

light trout
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Now that is cool! πŸ˜ƒ

strong hound
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Perfect.
'cause @light trout and me are working on some components to interface with google home devices.

wet pilot
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sweet

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i have a smart display and a few homes, lemmie know if you need a guinea pig

strong hound
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@wet pilot a non-Google smart display?

wet pilot
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no, home hub :/

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but 2x speakers

strong hound
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I'm testing with my home mini currently @wet pilot. If you have a non-Google smart speaker with Google Assistant you have the potential to make my day ahaha

wet pilot
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2x Insigna guys

light trout
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I think all of these uses the cast sdk that includes the api

strong hound
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perfect! @wet pilot
Can you check if you can see something at http://<ip_addr>:8008/setup/eureka_info?

wet pilot
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PM'd

light trout
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😦

wet pilot
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lol sorry, wasn't sure if there would be identifiable info in there

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TL;DR, it behaves like the home mini

light trout
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There are some "identifiable" pieces like SSID

wet pilot
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yar, so went for the slightly less public post πŸ˜„

quartz ether
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Just ordered a 4 pack of tiles and got a free echo dot... so much for that us only πŸ˜›

craggy torrent
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Speaking of Tiles I got 8 tiles for Β£15

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It was a customer returned item which the store just gave away

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2 packs of 4 - one of them actually still sealed

quartz ether
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Anyone here got any good black Friday deals that we should all be made aware of :p

young sigil
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45% off LiFx was the best I've seen. just went to get the link for you... and it's EXPIRED. You have to be quick.

quartz ether
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Lifx are OVER priced.

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even with 45% lol. I looked at them before and was like hmm could still buy 4 of the lights I have instead of one on discount

chilly lance
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good morning or timezone appropriate greeting elsewhere

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does anyone know how to shut up this message "INFO:homeassistant.util.package:Attempting install of colorlog==3.1.4" everytime i use --script checks?

proven spruce
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i would like to know the same thing

chilly lance
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the output is colorized

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i have no objections against using it, but the delay is getting bothersome

proven spruce
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you can do --log-no-color as an option

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but thats not fun

chilly lance
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aside from that it doesn't even work

proven spruce
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documentation lies again

clever mortar
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If there's no open issue (there may well be) please open one

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If there is one, please add your voice πŸ˜‰

low harness
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I thought I had a picture for cases like those... maybe it was on another computer...

clever mortar
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Who'd have thought that the docs didn't magically self heal πŸ˜›

proven spruce
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i'm flabbergasted

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so how do we turn off that trying to install colorlog message every time a config check is ran?

clever mortar
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It would appear to be a bug

chilly lance
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there are some obscure issues in the tracker

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but i don't think it's related

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how would editing the index.md of the docs help?

clever mortar
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It wouldn't fix the underlying problem, but it would fix that problem

proven spruce
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until now i thought it was my system that was borked but now i see others have the same colorlog bug

chilly lance
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grml, i might as well log an issue with discord sending me all over the place when clicking Tinkerers links πŸ˜ƒ

light trout
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That is expected

proven spruce
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didn't even know you can do that in discord

light trout
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It's a well hidden gem

proven spruce
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apparently, been using discord for years

clever mortar
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I think it's only arrived in the last 6 is months

light trout
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That particular feature is relativly "new" 6 mounths sounds rigth πŸ˜›

chilly lance
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i took the average out of 10 clicks as the intended line πŸ˜ƒ

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first issue i ever raised, there might be an issues πŸ˜€

proven spruce
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they say you'll allways remember your first

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i don't remember mine tho so its probably a lie

chilly lance
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i think the person that thought of calling the option to use no color log log-no-color needs to rethink that

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πŸ˜‡

worldly vessel
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arg.... i am doing to much stuff lately.

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i am switching from HUE to DECONz....

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now half way done, i wounder if it is any good...

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πŸ˜ƒ

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anybody alse using deconz?

proven spruce
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that's how it goes

worldly vessel
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haha

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killing time

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now next thing i wonder: if it worth setting up homekit

proven spruce
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can't help you, i'm firmly in the android ecosystem

worldly vessel
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what app do you use to controll your home?

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or just the the HA UI?

proven spruce
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google assistant and the HA ui

worldly vessel
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over a web browser?

proven spruce
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yes, i made a shortcut for chrome so it opens as a separate app

worldly vessel
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i really ALOT of echos... otherwise i would also try google assistant

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does it have any key features over alexa?

proven spruce
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i also have some diy gesture control wemos d1's for dimming and color temp changing

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afaik google has better voice recognition and amazon literally doesnt exist in my country so i had no incentive to even check it out

worldly vessel
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ah okay

proven spruce
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android tv is also a good selling point for google, i love android tv

worldly vessel
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any hue users around?

chilly lance
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is there such a thing that combines android tv and echo in one?

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err i mean google voice thingy

proven spruce
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considering amazon and google don't like each other at all i highly doubt it

chilly lance
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well, i mean the google equivalent of fire tv and echo in one

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dunno the google names exactly

proven spruce
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every android tv (fire tv equivalent) has google assistant (alexa) built in

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the only issue is some of them cannot wake on voice and you need to press a button on the remote instead

chilly lance
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arg, that's exactly the functionality i'm looking for

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i'd like to have a device that sits next to my projector and listens to voice

proven spruce
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you can always combine google home mini and a chromecast to achieve similar functionality

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google home mini listens and does and chromecast displays stuff

orchid rose
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ye, I have both even though I rarely use the chromecast

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mini is probably a safer bet when it comes to voice recognition as well compared to some random mics in a tv

chilly lance
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i'm a bit weary that google will disable voice activation on the whole because of security concerns

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i think they disabled it for a while on their boxes and recently on the pixel phones

proven spruce
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that would just completely destroy the concept though

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i think its only targeted on mobile phones

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since you keep a lot of personal data on them

chilly lance
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that live mostly in the google cloud

orchid rose
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I don't see what the security concerns would be for a device that sits in your home

pure vine
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recently got a driveway and am looking for some outdoor defusing trunking to run the LEDs in under the ledges

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Mainly a question for UK people

wet pilot
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Nvidia shield works with both Alexa and Ga

slim rampartBOT
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@midnight adder, you joined Other.

inland oracle
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@inland oracle, you joined Other.

pure vine
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thats annoying, Inkscape doesnt like the logo exports from sketch

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trying to make a security decal like ccostan wanted in thr form, but inkscape is not cooperating

thorn horizon
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?rank other

slim rampartBOT
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@thorn horizon, you joined Other.

fair monolith
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more UPS......

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now my lights should no longer not turn on

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next up is AC wall outlet super capacitors

vapid mirage
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sooo... does any one else have issues with "Default program" for yamls?

wet pilot
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Vim is life

midnight adder
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@vapid mirage also already had the same idea, why is there no decent json/yaml/xml editor all are nothing more than trees and could be nicely packed into a small area with folding and stuff.... but obviously not enough needs, I also just use vim... a language-server using the rest-api or even the yamls themselves would be awesome

vapid mirage
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@midnight adder notepad++ has yaml support but everytime i go to open the file, windows10 is liek dafuq is this?

midnight adder
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don't understand, usually windows and its application famous for their careful handling of resources πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„

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*are

wet pilot
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Lol

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Also fine endings and curly quotes

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And em-dash

fair monolith
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im happy with my GUI text edditor

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you VIM and emac people can resume your war

wet pilot
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πŸ”₯

midnight adder
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no war, just plain simple lack of understanding why someone would ever use emacs πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ and in fact my vim is also configured to work like an IDE, but then I can still benefit from vim itself. (and yes I tried the vim-keymap-setting in various IDEs, it's like alcohol-free beer: somehow yes, but it simply feels wrong and leads nowhere :D)

light trout
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Anyone here have Google WiFi?

quiet cobalt
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home assistant dashboard vs lovelace is lovelace just a newer dashboard

clever mortar
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No

light trout
clever mortar
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Lovelace replaces the stock UI

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However, you can do way more with Lovelace than the stock UI, so quite possibly you can replace HA Dashboard with a little work

proven spruce
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i guess its time to start learning lovelace, i've been putting it off for too long

clever mortar
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Sounds like you'll get an automatically built Lovelace interface if you don't

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So, do nothing, magic happens

proven spruce
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lets hope so

clever mortar
midnight adder
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@clever mortar the dashboard is anyways not a best fit together with appdaemon, appdaemon shines on the flexibility, running the dash through it somehow feels weird

clever mortar
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🀷

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For most people who use HA Dashboard I doubt very much they care πŸ˜‰

midnight adder
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yeah, but I guess there will be no real reason to drop the dash, but it might simply lose users to lovelace

flat fossil
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Any way to get nest cams to update person detection state more quickly or is that completely dependent on the nest api?

solar stag
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@distant stream I made this mobile UI using only a picture elements card

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The example page doesn't show personal imagination. It can do a Ton

distant stream
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Very cool

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Most of my stuff is automated, voice controlled but I just need my wife to be able to do basic stuff remotely should she choose. So atm default tab is simple, rest is mine

versed barn
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evening

leaden adder
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I just hooked up a ESP32 with a e-ink display. Would you recommend sending commands via http, or subscribing the esp to an mqtt broker?

clever mortar
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Most folks there use MQTT I believe

leaden adder
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@clever mortar Seriously, how can you write in all channels simultaneously? Thank for the advice πŸ˜‰

clever mortar
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I am really just an avatar used by many monkeys robots at once

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There is no chance that I'll produce the works of Shakespeare any time soon, honest πŸ˜‰

gloomy canyon
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btw lovelace: I define a lot of groups: in my package files, howto merge that to lovelace?

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right now I use the script made by @peak cloud but that is not really future proof

cerulean totem
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Anyone using HA cloud ?

gloomy canyon
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<-

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most of the active ppl here

cerulean totem
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you using alexa or google assistant ?

gloomy canyon
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both

cerulean totem
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if you have devices connected to google home can you access those with HA ?

gloomy canyon
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sorry I don't get the question

cerulean totem
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in HA can expose domains , or entities. but can it go the other way

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i have a irobot roomba i just connected to google home . can i managed that with HA?

gloomy canyon
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dunno tbh

cerulean totem
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im sure the short answer is not becuase its google assistant not google home component

eager trench
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is there a Home Assistant component for it?

light trout
west moss
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you guys know how well a raspberry pi 3b handles playing ~20gb bluray movies from a nas? (i'll probbly run audio passthrough as i got a receiver that can decode prettymuch all formats)

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thinking of using my current NUC htpc as a server instead for home assistant and more, and then use the pi3 as a htpc

sweet cipher
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i dunno what you call it, but is it possible for the mods to start a room where we can post lounge-ish comments based on our locale? Im in Singapore and Id like to know if there are other HA users in SG?

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Any other SG based HA users around?

distant stream
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@west moss I run Kodi on an rpi3 and it struggles with really high bitrates. If your rips are that big for other reasons it should play fine

west moss
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ah ok, i'll stick with the nuc then i guess

distant stream
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I have a lot of 15+ gb files that play perfect and seek is instant

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But none of them are over 1080p and I don't think many over 7kbps

oblique nymph
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any good home automation cyber monday deals?

keen salmon
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Anyone planning homeassistant talks / meetups at fosdem?

wet pilot
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@west moss go-go Plex + Chromecast/Roku/Nvidia shield/fireTV

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Plex + HA in docker on the nuc

west moss
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not using plex, hate that crap πŸ˜› i run kodi

wet pilot
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Chromecast 4k might still have issues with that bitrate though, I ended up getting a Nvidia shield to fix that problem, needed more local cpu oomph

pure vine
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Finally KDE added a channel test to the volume settings

red hinge
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Hi! I have a few stupid beginner questions. Is there any possibility that someone could take a few minutes to explain?

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By explaining, I mean that I have some questions regarding UI management/configuration.

oblique nymph
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@red hinge ask away

red hinge
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@oblique nymph Who? πŸ˜„

last cradle
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@red hinge just ask your questions and if someone can help, they will

red hinge
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I have a bunch of Philips Hue Lights and group that were discovered by Hassio. Is there any way to remove the groups from my start page?
There's a group called "lights" and another one for Telldus-devices but I'm not sure how to change/remove them since they're not in my configuration.yaml file.

last cradle
pure vine
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I think i have got bruh's code ESP32 compatible, havent got a esp to test it though

last cradle
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is this his light code, or the multi sensor?

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I have an esp32, but do not have any individually addressable rgb lights

pure vine
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Light code

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it verifies but that is about it

last cradle
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I could install it on my esp32, but wouldn't really be able to test anything

pure vine
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I was just making sure it was using some eps32 specific features that was added to fastLED

oblique nymph
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anyone know a good place to get into programming ESP3266 or NodeMCU

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right now I want to create a vibration sensor for my dryer, but lack the knowledge

proven spruce
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or find a premade sketch on the internets

pure vine
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@oblique nymph ada fruit has some good tutorials. most of the time its finding a libary for that task and then messing with the data that comes out of it

orchid rose
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ESP Easy or something similar could be the easiest way to start. That one seems to support a MPU6050 motion sensor for example

oblique nymph
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@orchid rose I have a MPU6050 and tried esphomeyaml but didn't have a lot of documentation

orchid rose
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haven't tried that myself. esp easy was pretty easy to set up for my temp sensor and mqtt. Maybe check that out?

oblique nymph
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I'll give it a go, thank you @orchid rose

wintry plover
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Hello everyone, i have a few smartthings presence sensors linked with MQTT ST Bridge. They publish "Present" and "Not Present". Whats the best MQTT component to use for them?

clever mortar
wintry plover
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Sorry, my bad

violet brook
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something is gonna land on mars it seems

hearty depot
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Some happy to help, helpful superuser here?
What could it be that a smb share via VPN which is running over a QNAP Nas could not be found in an other network?..

midnight adder
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SMB server not listening on the correct IP (internal/external/VPN-ip?) . SMB traffic is blocked at some firewall?

hearty depot
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It's not working on a mobile connection I guess.
On the office PC (same config, different user) I can map the Nas.
I ll try to add the server name to the host file.
Windows says that it can't find a server with the name NAS.
I'd try to turn off the firewall already, but ll try to add a rule tomorrow

clever mortar
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If it can't find it with the name then try with the IP

worldly vessel
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what do you prefer for TTS?? Alexa or google?

clever mortar
hearty depot
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Kk
searched so many forums already..
On pivpn I had to change the mtu. But the qnap is a little stuff in the configuration

void yew
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Anybody know if there’s any legit documentation for HADashboard? I see the page, but I’m curious about editing/creating a theme. I’ve seen in the forums to check the existing theme files, but I don’t see any existing files for the 5/6 themes that come with the installation... ideas? Help?

dull chasm
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@fallow belfry everything you are asking is true and possible.... but i also ask that you change you nick

midnight adder
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Amazons got some pretty good deals on smart home stuff today

quaint coral
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does anyone have the Google Home Hub and know if it can run access the HASS webpage? I can't find anything online about it being able to run a web browser.

wet pilot
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It doesn't have a browser

quaint coral
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Dang. Then I guess it's a no-go for HA integration as a phablet.

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Oh well!

wet pilot
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Haha

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They do have a UI for home control

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It's ok

quaint coral
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Meh. Restrictions are no fun though. That's one of the reasons why we have hass in the first place. ;D

wet pilot
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Lol true

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I picked one up for the wifey and her recipes

quaint coral
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yeah it's neat, but I don't actually use the recipe grabber on my Home much

wet pilot
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Visual timer is kinda nice too

quaint coral
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If it could do web browsing, I was sold. A tablet that I can use mainly as a livingroom/kitchen dashboard that ALSO doubles as a nice speaker? Otherwise, the screen is more novelty than anything.

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I'm not really missing out on functionality here, I can just ask Goog to repeat herself.

wet pilot
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You could try casting the screen and see if that works πŸ˜‹

quaint coral
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ew lol

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Really it was me trying to decide on if I should get the Pixel 3XL + free Home Hub ... $50 $99 isn't much, but $1,100 is! I'm buying 2 for the parents already, but if it was capable, I'd get one too.

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Thanks for the confirmation though. ha ha

wet pilot
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Lol np

dry cairn
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the 3xl is buggy as hell as it stands for right now

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bt wifi is screwed up

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android auto prevents you from turning the volume up and down on your radio due to a sound bug that keeps thre audio output going

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the AI chip is a huge battery hog

quaint coral
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oh, nice, dodging a bullet then :D

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I have the 2XL

proud nebula
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Anyone have success with the Envisalink conponent?

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*component

fair monolith
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google... please stop screwing up

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every time I look at android I see a mess

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;.;

clever mortar
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@proud nebula Please read the channel topics before posting πŸ˜‰ This channel is for things not related to Home Assistant

hearty depot
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Never used ESXi
Is it possible to run ESXi without a gpu?
I have a old Macbook (with the broken gpu) Could use it maybe for HA..

light trout
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Run, sure...
But I thik you need a display signal (+ a keyboard) during the installation

clever mortar
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Nano is to vi what a hammer is to a fully stocked workshop

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don's flack jacket and helmet :D

quartz ether
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Did anyone jump on the NewEgg/BestBuy 10TB deal today?

hearty depot
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@light trout The machine runs well enough after i put it in the oven
Luis Rossman explained it well - its a zombie chip - Working for some time but dies for shure again
I would sell it as working - But I'd throw away the screws for the bottom plate and battery πŸ˜…

light trout
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Then it should not be a problem running ESXi on it πŸ˜ƒ

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As long as you get the initial setup done, there is no need for a GPU (or physical access) πŸ˜ƒ

hearty depot
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mhmm.. Shall I try it.. I realy would like to to be honest 😸 I have to deactivate the GPU somehow in the hypervisor

light trout
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Why?

hearty depot
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as said - Its a zombie chip wich starts failing under a little pressure

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As sool it fails the initial check fails - and the Device dont start to load an OS

light trout
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oh 😦

hearty depot
violet brook
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Comes with a hammer?

hearty depot
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Chances are high πŸ˜„

hearty depot
ruby finch
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@proven spruce you were talking about remote-ftp plugin for Atom before. I'm getting permission denied errors when trying to save via SFTP connection. Any idea how I escalate permissions?

proven spruce
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there are a couple ftp remote plugins

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but the basic idea is to setup your server and login with a username that has permissions to edit HA files over sftp... its basically winscp built in

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i'm using the ftp remote with less downloads than the first one, cant tell you the name since i'm at work now

ruby finch
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with winscp I can tell it to sudo command on save

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but I can't see a config option with this SFTP editor

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oh actually, I see a "remoteshell"

proven spruce
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there's options in the plugin dropdown

ruby finch
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ah different plugin, thanks

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I'll try that

proven spruce
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yeah the one i use is simpler

dull chasm
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Disgusting and profane

clever mortar
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You've effectively got two choices - please make them swiftly

dry cairn
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why not simply fix the gpu

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chip is prolly fine it just desoldered from the board

west moss
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if i got a unifi edge router, connected to a "normal" switch from another brand, connected to a unifi switch and unifi AP, can i still set up vlan's propperly? and restricting devices from eachother? or will the "normal random brand switch" ruin everything?

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not sure how it works, does all internal network traffic always go through the router also or will it just go to the normal switch and than that does not know about vlan rules?

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or is it because of the different subnets that it always goes to the router?

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i prettymuch want to set up afew vlan's, 1 for my "main" network, then one for IoT devices that requires internet but not reaching my main network, then another for IoT that does not require internet either (sonoff and nodemcu stuff for example, that would only require connecting to a specific MQTT port on specific ip of the main network"

languid sphinx
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It depends if the "normal brand switch" passes the vlan data correctly assuming you're using 802.11q tagging

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You could also tag the uplink port from the normal brand switch with another smart switch. ie, plug all of the isolated stuff into the normal brand switch, and then when that uplinks to the edgeswitch, tag that port with a vlan.

hearty depot
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@dry cairn me and my Macbook A1286 2011?
The pre boot initial check is a Problem

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or fix the GPU? Impossible - The gpu itself is broken by factory

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(known issue)

mighty summit
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basically, what @languid sphinx said, but with more explanation.

west moss
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thanks i'll look into this πŸ˜ƒ i was thinking of doing what you said there jquagga of using unmanaged switch for an entire vlan and then have that to the edgerouter, but came to the issue i need to go router -> unmanaged -> both IoT stuff and main network stuff sadly 😦

hearty depot
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@west moss What youre doing - or where started the discussion?
intresing because ive got the same setup

languid sphinx
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@west moss And also, which edgerouter do you have?

west moss
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well i want to secure my network abit, dont want random IoT stuff to have internet access, nor have access to my main network where i got NAS and servers

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internal servers that is πŸ˜ƒ

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dont have the edge router atm, looking to get one, but beeing able to do this stuff is one of the main reasons, so wanted to make sure it would work first πŸ˜›

languid sphinx
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I try to buy things which are mostly local control so I have iot things on the main network. They are blocked from accessing the internet via firewall rules though

west moss
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but from what i understand, id my "normal" switch support 802.11q i should be fine either way right?

hearty depot
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I made some firewall rules for this (mostly the dash buttons)
Thinking bout vlaning stuff - but atm there is no need - I like it that I can acsess my IOT stuff

west moss
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jqugga thats what i have atm to, blocking all IoT stuff with firewall, and also try to buy as little cloud using crap as possible

languid sphinx
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@west moss yes but you wouldn't be able to control which vlans items plugged into the individual switch ports of normal switch are on

west moss
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but tbh, i'd preffere them seperate from my main stuff either way

languid sphinx
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That's fine, but you have to set up routing between the vlans if you want to say, control your iot gizmo from a device on your main lan (or have your home assistant machine on both vlans)

west moss
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but my edgerouter can assign new devices to a vlan? and then the normal switch will keep them on it?

languid sphinx
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No, the unifi switch would assign them at the point of entry OR the unifi UAP can tag devices when they connect to say a second access point

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The latter is what I have setup for guest networks here.

mighty summit
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devices don't get assigned to a VLAN, network ports do

west moss
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my plan was to:
main network -> can acces all vlans and wan
IoT1 network -> can access MQTT port on home assistant local ip only
IoT2 network -> can access internet and MQTT port on home assistant local ip

languid sphinx
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If the main network can access the whole vlan, then the devices on that vlan can also access the devices on main network unless you set up firewall rules

west moss
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:/ i realy dont wanna throw out my 24port switch 😦 pretty freaking expensive those are πŸ˜›

languid sphinx
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Which, realistically you can do with or without the vlanning

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Once 802.11bz gets affordable we'll all be replacing our switches anyway heh

west moss
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firewall rules would only work if all traffic came throu the edgerouter

languid sphinx
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802.3bz rather

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Your devices can have a local firewall

hearty depot
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I "replaced" my modem with the edgerouter - the ISP router in single user mode

languid sphinx
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lthough your way would work with vlans and the edgerouter routing and acting a firewall between the vlans

west moss
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so basically, my best idea would be to edgerouter connects to 2 switches, 1 that is unmanaged and runs my "main" network, the second is a unifi switch that connects to both IoT devices, and unifi AP (and possibly other main network devices)

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i could solve that with just buying 1x 4port unifi switch tbh, would be the most cost effective

languid sphinx
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If your unmanaged switch will trunk vlans (support 802.11q that is), then the UAPs could go on the unmanaged switch too. They tag packets at they leave the UAP

west moss
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problem is how the wires are drawn

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i got 1 wire from my server room up to the attic, then there i would put an unifi switch, this swithc would go to 3 ip cameras (IoT devices that should be on seperate vlan) and 1 UAP

languid sphinx
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The unifi switch will support trunking so, it can tag all of the data as it leaves that unifi switch. The question then is, can the unmanaged switch which I'm assuming is down by your internet access / router pass those packets along without messing with the 802.11q tags

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Or you can buy an edgerouter with an integrated switch

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Plug the feed from the attic into port 2 and the unmanaged switch into port 3

west moss
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yea that last option is what i was thinking

languid sphinx
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The ER-X is the cheapest option there and works fine unless you have an internet connection over 500Mbit or something

west moss
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edge router goes both to attic and to unmanaged switch, then the unmanaged swithc goes to my patchpanel that feeds into the other rooms of the house (my "main" network)

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and on attic both unifi switch and UAP would handle vlans and such

wet pilot
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could swap out the dumb switch for a managed one?

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sounds like you have a lot of ports though

ruby finch
#

Any chance of some help with the following syntax?

    "remoteShell": "sudo su -",

This is the remote-ftp plugin for Atom. I copied that line straight from WinSCP but it doesn't work. Any idea how I can use sudo to escalate file-write requests within the "remoteshell" bit?

wet pilot
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i'm not sure atom supports that

mighty summit
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@solemn gust use a poe splitter, take the power output from the splitter into the startech usb-c power input

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take the splitter's network to the startech network input

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done.

solemn gust
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That would work, that's what I thought? A couple people saying it wouldn't, then what the heck would Starteck device (or similar) do.

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Thanks.

mighty summit
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but you still neet to get the POE into the netork cabling...or else your splitter will have no effect

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so, at the network switch side, you need a POE switch, or a POE _injector

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and at the tablet side, you need a poe splitter and the startech dongle

languid sphinx
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So a big wall box if you're putting this in a wall

mighty summit
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big , that's a relative term πŸ˜ƒ

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the usb dongle is a pack of cigarettes

languid sphinx
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Well, my splitter eats up a 1-gang box. If you had a two gang you can probably make it work

mighty summit
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and i've seen splitters the size og a memorystick...just about

wet pilot
tidal bronze
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@mighty summit that should work. will did 5.5mm DC jack to USB C or USB A to USB C for the splitter.

wet pilot
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overkill, but has the ports you need

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looks like most of them are ~$55 us

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wait, crap, that one doesn't have network, sec

mighty summit
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@wet pilot but wabil wants to use PoE ... ?

wet pilot
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sounded more like a "nice to have" since the network isn't set up for that yet

solemn gust
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I actually don't have to. I have a huge hollow post (furnace pipes), 2 feet x 2 feet, runs straight down to furnace room, I can very easily run any cables.
Just want power and lan to one usb-c on tablet.

mighty summit
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then run a 220V cable, and a network cable.

wet pilot
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@solemn gust check out the latest link

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again, overkill, but no one seems to do just network and power

languid sphinx
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Nothing goes through the furnace pipes correct?

solemn gust
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Of course not! Big post to accomodate an elbow in the pipes, needed a post when took wall out and openied up my kitchen.

languid sphinx
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Oh that kind of post

cerulean totem
#

anyone using node red docker and have a good tutorial to get it up and running ? docker compose example ? Docker image ?

solemn gust
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@mighty summit I can run power, and a network cable, but I need to supply both power and lan to one usb-c input on tablet.

mighty summit
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@solemn gust your startech dongle does that.

solemn gust
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Sounds great, I get it now. Was trying to do with POE, but that is not necessary for my spot, just supply the ethernet, and then a reguar usb-c charge cable into Startech device?

mighty summit
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yes

solemn gust
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Awesome, thanks for all the help. Just want to avoid unreliable wifi, android 7 on that tablet which is known for wifi drops.

last plaza
hearty depot
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deam.. How di I find a file called something with amd*

clever mortar
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find . -iname "amd*" -print

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Replace . with where you want to start the search from

hearty depot
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ah I love xou ❀

clever mortar
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There are other options, but that's the simple brute force approach

hearty depot
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tried all the time something with ls and grep - but failed

wet pilot
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sudo if the folder is protected

hearty depot
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i try to move my AMDRadeonX3000.kext from this macbook from hell - but that isnt the name

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official.. There isnt a file wich is remotely called this

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Arch Linux - Here I come

hearty depot
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ha! ATIRadeonX3000.kext

wet pilot
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hah wow

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that's a name i haven't seen in a long time

dry cairn
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@hearty depot i fixed many of those gpu's by taking em off and reballing em correctly then resoldering em

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@last plaza yup thats digi modes i got a couple of those hats and a tncpi

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@hearty depot the problem with those is apple cheaped out having the boards made and they warp with heat and rip the solder balls off the board

hearty depot
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Pew.. I defenitly dont got the equipment needed for reballing - I dont mind to leave the dedicated GPU behind - Thinking about removing the r8911 (when I understood it right the voltage regulator)
I would love to know if i have to patch the kernel afterwards when I do this
@dry cairn

west moss
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which ubiquiti router do you all recommend?

hearty depot
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ER-X-SFP 5 to 6 ports ad the SPF could get useful in the future

west moss
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so the ER-X is powerfull enough?

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i was looking at the EdgeRouter Pro 8

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i'd preffere if it was powerfull enough to run openvpn (both as client and server if possible)

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or atleast as client, and then pptp vpn server

hearty depot
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IPsec Site-to-Site is in place - I think enabeling the Vpn server is just a click

west moss
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Ubiquiti Networks EdgeRouter 4 looks pretty nice also

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yea think the ER4 it is, seems faster than the ER-X, and only 100$ more

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and i can rackmount it for just 30$ more

hearty depot
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I always try go as cheap as possible (and hack it then in some way or an other )
only some times I have to buy the real deal

west moss
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as for switches, is there any advantage going edgeswitch vs unfi switch?

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yea, but for a router i'd preffere abit more horsepower πŸ˜›

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and i'll get the stuff at pretty darn good prices anyway πŸ˜›

wet pilot
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Gigabit connection here so I'm eyeballing the ER4

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ER-X can only really do 1gb combined throughput

hearty depot
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Wrong Person to ask to be honest - I`m more then happy with my ER-X and the small Unify AP.

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30Mbit/s Down max - so...

west moss
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the main thing i want from my switch is to have port-based vlans, can both unifiswitch and edgeswitch do this?

distant stream
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Yes

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I run an er pro and an edgeswitch

quiet cobalt
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@hearty depot how ya been buddy

hearty depot
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Heeya - Well well - Slacking around
Got HA and Mosquitto running?

quiet cobalt
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nice get close to my Chore Responsibility Calendar.

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to work

hearty depot
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Procrastinating to the best πŸ˜„ got the Google calender integraded?

west moss
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well after some googling it seems the unifi switches support portbased vlans

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@distant stream can you manage the edgeswitch from the controller like the unifiswitch? or is it only its own gui page?

hearty depot
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wasnt shure - so no awnser - its a unify.. da you need also the software?

quiet cobalt
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really don't need goodle calender but see got it but then tho oh I don't need it lol

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@hearty depot alias: snake_feed trigger: - platform: time at: "19:05:00" action: - data: entity_id: switch.washing service: switch.turn_on

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but HA keep coming up with errors

west moss
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the edgemax series seems more customisable, than the unifi stuff, but they also need to be configured in their own gui from what i understand, not all configured from the same controller gui like the unifi series

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edgemax is the edgerouter and edgeswitch

distant stream
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They're is a unified controller for the edgemax series now

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UNMS

west moss
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oh shit realy

distant stream
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I have not used it however

west moss
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any idea if it can do a mix of both? UAP's with edgemax switch and edgemax router

distant stream
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I do not think so

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Just edgemax iirc

west moss
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ah well, guess i'll just go with edgerouter and then unifi for the switches

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lets me controll everything except router in same controller

quartz ether
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Why are you mixing?

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Unifi is edge with a nicer ui. Anything you can do on unifi.... just some of it requires ssh command (same as it does on edge) the basic stuff is on the ui

light trout
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Because he/she can? 😜

west moss
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from what i read the edgerouter can do alot more than the USG

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and alot more from the gui atleast making it easier to manage

quartz ether
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If you are going unifi aps stay with unifi. Makes life easier. Double check what you "need/want" from the router and if you arent going to use the extra features in the edgerouter then why bother.

west moss
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well i wanted to use the dnsmasq on the edgerouter and from what i understand you cant on the usg

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and also more advanced firewall ruling

quartz ether
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Just FYI I have a USG and 1000/1000 internet the USG is a limit and if I turn on the intrusion prevention thing I drop the speed significantly

west moss
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because i want to link my external url to my internal ip, so requests to my external url from local network never actually leave my router and goes out on the web

quartz ether
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Head over to the ubnt discord will be some pretty schooled up people over there. I only use the basic features and I would prefer the XG (I just cant afford it) so I could use it to its full potential while keeping throughput

west moss
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yea the xg aint cheap πŸ˜› quite abit overkill for my private network to tho πŸ˜›

quartz ether
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Intrusion Prevention kills the hardware... Turning it on on the usg slows the throughput from 1000 down to 80+-

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The XG slows to 1000 (which is why I want it)

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Warning: Enabling IDS/IPS will affect the device maximum throughput. USG: 85 Mbps, USG-Pro: 250 Mbps, USG-XG-8: 1 Gbps.

west moss
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waht exactly does the intrusion prevention do?

quartz ether
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Terrible example lol... just google it. But it pretty much is what it says Intrusion Prevention system

gloomy canyon
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btw unifi, what do u guys with devices that only work with wps?

quartz ether
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that hurts my brain.... what are you asking?

gloomy canyon
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wps button sry

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afaik is there no option or anything to emulate that

west moss
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there are devices that only work with wps? never heard of that

gloomy canyon
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some stupid aircons e.g.

quartz ether
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There are but WPS is insecure. Which is why unifi doesnt support it.

gloomy canyon
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my smartwatch only does backups when connected to a wifi

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did u ever enter a 63 char psk with a smartwatch? :/

quartz ether
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Get a better smartwatch.

west moss
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well the psk is a onetime thing.. surly you can take the time to enter it ones

gloomy canyon
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hm i add another ssid with a short passwd and disbale it after the backup

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I think that's the most convenient solution

west moss
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that would also be one solution

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dont you already have a guest ssid btw? that would probbly use a simpler psk?

gloomy canyon
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nope

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an iot net and my wifi

west moss
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dont you ever have friends or relatives comming over :O?

quartz ether
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Guest networks πŸ˜›

gloomy canyon
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oh they usually get full access

west moss
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whats the point of a advanced password if you give it to everyone -.-'

gloomy canyon
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got only 1 ubiquiti ap.. a crappy dd-wrt provides the wifi in the first floor 😦

quartz ether
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Lol... but that is just pointless... I have this super secure wifi over here.... or you want full access just connect to that one the password is password

west moss
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^what he said πŸ˜„

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Might aswell print the password and put it up on the wall πŸ˜„

gloomy canyon
#

if I enter the password for them?

west moss
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your still giving them full acces to your network man... and also passwords can be fetched ones saved i believe

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you realy dont want untrusted devices on your main network

quartz ether
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If it is android they can view it. if it is apple they can share it.... Also fuck having to put it in every time. People should be able to just show up and use it. Without having to worry about people you dont want in your network being able to do anything other than browse the web

gloomy canyon
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don't you give full access to closest relatives?

west moss
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hell i dont even use my android phone on my main network.. its on the guest network.. i got no need for it on the main

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why?

gloomy canyon
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the need to have access to HA and the nas for example

west moss
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why would my mom with 0 computer skill need to access my main network with her virus filled devices?

quartz ether
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If they dont live in the house they only get guest because why do they want to do anything other than internet? And for people who live in the house they get 2.4ghz with a seperate ssid and password while I hog the 5ghz

west moss
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put it on a seperate vlan, and then if you need some kind of access, then alow only that to only the specifik ip and port

gloomy canyon
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yeah but for that I need a managed switch

west moss
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put stuff like printer on 1 vlan, then have that accessable from both main network and guest network, then even guests can borrow your printer, but they cant access your NAS and such

quartz ether
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Unifi allows specific ip's to be available to guest network.

gloomy canyon
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yeah but before that i need another ap

west moss
#

you're basically allowing anyone with any kind of computer skill into your network, without knowing anything about the security of their devices, they could be full of malware for all you know

gloomy canyon
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they are not

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3 laptops and 2 phones

quartz ether
#

Ok.

gloomy canyon
#

but you guys are right, network security could be optimized

west moss
#

well the main thing to keep in mind is that hte chain is only as secure as the weakest link... your network can be superduper secure, but if you forget just 1 simple thing the whole thing is completly unsecure and can come down like a house of cards

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and its also not only about things not getting in, its also things not getting out you want to think about... for example i see no reason why my TV needs internet, so i block it off

quartz ether
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No netflix?

west moss
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maby it autoupdates firmware, and that cloud serice gets compromised, then my tv is a security risk

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i use a HTPC for stuff like that

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and youtube and so on

gloomy canyon
#

yeah same here no device has internet beside the kodi

west moss
#

i also got bandwidth limits on the guest network, so if someone would get in to use that just for free internet, it will be superslow, then i manually need to swap the device over to another user group in unifi controller to give it more speed

dry cairn
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@hearty depot look around near you i bet there is someone around that can resolder the chip for you then you don't have to screw around

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also the ER-X is capable of 1gig as long as hw offload is on

pure vine
#

anyone got some home automations for the upcoming holiday season in the works

#

outside of lights

light trout
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if media_player.spofiy contains 'christmas' skip song
proven spruce
#

like randomly broadcasting xmas music when people enter a room?

dry cairn
#

πŸ‘ @light trout

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or a 4 taser santa xmas trap

proven spruce
#

all rgb lights can be green or red only?

pure vine
#

I need to make my version of Bruhs lights have my edited pallet

mighty summit
#

how can i get the URL to a post in a discord chat ?

light trout
#

enable developer options in your client, and klick the 3 dots to the right of the post

mighty summit
#

ehhh.using the web client. Not seeing any dev options

pure vine
#

oh, just do ctrl+i in chrome and ctrl+shift+C in firefox

light trout
#

Get a proper client then @mighty summit

pure vine
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@light trout i dont think there is a way to get direct links from discord

mighty summit
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lol

pure vine
#

Oh

mighty summit
#

thx for the info @light trout . I never even realised there are other clients for Discord (except on mobile)

pure vine
#

I need to get that automated in a bot for a diffrent server

mighty summit
#

@light trout what client are you using ?

light trout
#

If you control a bot use the message ID instead like 517328619006328884

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Default windows client

pure vine
#

Default windows pretend web app AKA electron client

light trout
#

correct

pure vine
#

I love KDE connect(or is it konnect), I was listening to spotify on my laptop and my mum called my phone and KDE connect noticed that and issued a mpris pause command

mighty summit
#

my bad, Dev mode does exist in the browser-based client.

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πŸ‘

gloomy canyon
#

Running discord on Android, Windows, Linux and my MacBook

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Works well everywhere

pure vine
#

and if you still use IRC for some reason, there is bitlbee

gloomy canyon
#

irssi ❀

ruby finch
wet pilot
#

or a blessing?

vague ginkgo
#

WIP for sure, but I think it looks pretty awesome!

ruby finch
clever mortar
#

They didn't fold it in two - that's pretty good for the UK Post Office

ruby finch
#

It was DHL. Looks like it was dropped and stepped on to me

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Not sure you can see too well but the corners of the box are all squished and broken

clever mortar
#

Yeah, it looks it. I'd certainly be complaining about that one

ruby finch
#

Hopefully vesternet will live up to their reputation

pure vine
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@clever mortar im planning to get a larg items lock box out the frount of my house for the postman to put large items in, as the issue is that our letter slots in the uk are too small for most items

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also becuse weve had hermies put a parcel in our food waste bin

clever mortar
#

Yeah, we've had parcels left in the recycling bin a few times

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Mostly it's HDNL/Yodel we've had issues with, the rest of them (even Amazon) aren't too bad

pure vine
#

I might make a sulution where the box is locked until either the postman scans their ID for their company or the parcel barcode is scanned and confirmed or just leave it as a normal box and put a camrea in it

wet pilot
#

if there are steps to open it, i can't imagine delivery folks would use it

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if anything, i'd set a rule to lock 1m after open/close

pure vine
#

I might just make a system like those magic vanishing boxes

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so opening it looks empty, but when you close the lid, it allows the parcel to drop into annother section and then it looks empty when it is opened again

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there will then be a locked door that i will open to get them out

wet pilot
#

that could work

ruby finch
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Its all just risk management

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I'm usually happy to tell delivery people to leave it behind our back garden gate

wet pilot
#

i have some nice bushes surrounding my front walkway, keeps packages out of sight from the street

ruby finch
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Unless it's really rainy

wet pilot
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plus, i work from home and can see the delivery people come

ruby finch
#

We're on a private drive from a village cul de sac too, which helps

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My new ring doorbell has been great for telling people to leave them round the back πŸ˜‚

vague ginkgo
#

@ruby finch if you're in the states, getting a USPS, FedEx, and UPS account is great for that too. You can have that in your delivery preferences and have it be remembered even if the shipper doesn't specify it

pure vine
#

i would have a ring, if it wasnt soo slow

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currently looking for a DIY solution

quartz ether
#

Everything still depends on the driver... all our packages get instructions on where to leave them. Almost always someone is home and yet they still just drop a card in the letter box and leave no knocking or anything. I had a $400 package left in the letter box when it was a signature required but had said no sig if left at the front door. (I have a ring but they dont make it to the door to use it)

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With ring if you set the zones for motion up correctly you can get notified before they even get to the door. (I have it so when a car comes up the drive I get a notification)

last plaza
#

@dry cairn

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lol - just started reading now.... hopefully in a month or two, I am ready to take exam

dry cairn
#

@last plaza yeah those antennas are easy and a good practice for new hams

last plaza
#

there is so much shit I donno

dry cairn
#

you be fine you looking too much into it lol

#

there's a lot of useless info in there too

last plaza
#

yup - apparently you can install inside your attic and not have to get in trouble with HOA... my HOA is a pain the ass

dry cairn
#

yep

last plaza
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lol - ok..

dry cairn
#

you can also mount premade smaller antennas in the attic

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also as a ham you can mount a ham antenna as per fcc regulations they cannot deny you a ham radio antenna

last plaza
#

ok...

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that's great!

dry cairn
#

they might hate you afterwards but not much they can do exept trying to intimidate you

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at least down here in florida

last plaza
#

I am used to that.... I am not worried! πŸ˜ƒ

dry cairn
#

i can put anything in my yard up to 90 feet

last plaza
#

I will give them hell if I can - as long as I am permitted, I don't give a shit about them πŸ˜ƒ

dry cairn
#

yup

last plaza
#

90 ft is amazing!

dry cairn
#

it might help if you volunteer at your local EOC

last plaza
#

if I can just build an antenna about 8ft with copper tubing, I'm gold!

dry cairn
#

once you got that you required to have a ham radio πŸ˜›

last plaza
#

yep - I am goign to reach local county emergency services

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I got a few references, and numbers online - will call them soon

dry cairn
#

plus if they complain to city or so you just show code enforcement your eoc badge and they just walk away

last plaza
#

yup - I got a neighbor, he is big into ham radio, we will join forces πŸ˜›

dry cairn
#

nice

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does he have antennas up?

last plaza
#

not in our community - he was talking about high powered antennas that he can't put in attic due to fire hazard

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I can help fight with our HOA πŸ˜‰

dry cairn
#

yeah lol never touch that antenna with the radio on

last plaza
#

yup

dry cairn
#

it will kick your ass when someone hits ptt

last plaza
#

lol

dry cairn
#

you laughing lol

last plaza
#

lol, yes, I am ... πŸ˜‚

dry cairn
#

at 100w it will knock you on your ass

last plaza
#

yup - he was talking about the same - he was talking more like 500watts

dry cairn
#

i got a 30ft antenna i run when i go up to 1200w

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that thing will glow at night

last plaza
#

I never knew he was so much into ham radio - until I asked him, now I can't stop him talk about it

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oh my!!!

dry cairn
#

heh yeah ham radio is like crack

last plaza
#

I feel like an idiot.... what did I do all these years????

dry cairn
#

at 1200w there is a good possibility you can kill a small person

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thats why i had to move that antenna higher up so nobody can touch it walking by

last plaza
#

if you live outside community, you can do whatever you want, no one cares... a buddy of mine has 15 acres of backyard

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ah, I see!

dry cairn
#

yeah i live in town and i got a neighbour that always complains

last plaza
#

it is probably better here, it gets really cold in the winters, and keep the antenna cold

dry cairn
#

so everytime he bitches to the city i put up another antenna

last plaza
#

lol

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tell him to get his ass out and get certified... he can use your antennas for free

dry cairn
#

lol no

last plaza
#

lol

wet pilot
#

Aren't antenas legally protected by the FCC?

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In the US

last plaza
#

only when you are certified

wet pilot
#

Right

dry cairn
#

those 2 are always fighting with each other or ppl on the phone and when they bored they measure ppls lawn and walk around at night checking sprinklers then rat em out to the city

last plaza
#

lol

wet pilot
#

Cept the city probably doesn't care

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Good thing you're not in a HOA

dry cairn
#

city wont make you take it down they show up say someone complained and good bye

wet pilot
#

Also, I think HOAs can't actually do anything about antenas either

dry cairn
#

nope but they can give you shit if you let em

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gotta kick em right in the nuts before they can fire

last plaza
#

yup

royal hatch
#

anybody use open media vault with nextcloud?

#

I am rebuilding my server with proxmox, planning a vm for homeassistant, and one for open media vault with nextcloud, a 3rd will likely be opnsense, and then another misc linux server for a local git + whatever random docker containers I might want to run/test

storm summit
#

I wish I could run proxmox. If only veeam worked on proxmox.

wet pilot
#

quiet in here tonight

#

need a distraction while waiting for tox to run πŸ˜„

pure vine
#

alexander dennis has some good design for once, on the older buses the frount top deck seats used to be level, but one had a solid box insted of a gap leaving not much space for feat. on the new buses, they set one of those seats back leaving foot room

upbeat mason
#

Anyone else having this issue when trying to view pages ? i have tried on chrome, opera, Firefox and from mobile and when clicking the link as me to download download

wet pilot
#

works for me

#

oh, maybe not

#

it ninja downloaded

uneven cobalt
#

@upbeat mason same issue

wet pilot
#

not limited to mobile

light trout
wet pilot
#

mayhaps google has a bad link

quartz ether
#

Add Tautulli sensor platform (@ludeeus - #17835) (sensor.tautulli docs) (new-platform)

Now to see if it works for me πŸ˜› @light trout

light trout
#

Good luck with that πŸ˜„

shy comet
#

lol

light trout
#

~8ball will it work?

velvet horizonBOT
#
:8ball:
8Ball Prediction:

Very Doubtful

light trout
#

See πŸ˜„

shy comet
#

8ball never lies

quartz ether
#

Haha.

#

What is the correct layout for monitored_users?

sensor:
  - platform: tautulli
    api_key: !secret tautulli_api
    host: !secret tautulli_host
    monitored_users: username
light trout
#

list

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- user1
- user2

or

['user1', 'user2']
quartz ether
#

Sweet.

true canopy
#

I have a problem with the integration of amazon echo alexa. I would like to reproduce text using tts but I only hear the sound but not the text

quartz ether
#

Damn it just realised the time.. I have to go into work for 10 min to walk someone around a venue then go home again.... Waste of time.

#

is still playing with Tautulli instead of going to work... opps

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Though I can confirm MESSY if I leave it with all :p

pure vine
#

I should have switched to nginx sooner, its a lot faster than apache was on my server

rose comet
#

Google or Amazon, what voice assistant do I choose πŸ€”

royal hatch
#

google is my vote

#

but i am an android person

#

so google already has my info

rose comet
#

I have both, and both are frustrating me in differnt ways

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like, I used to be able to use my phone along with my homes, and now my phone doesnt work with my lights/switches/etc (probably my fault)

royal hatch
#

mmm

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sorry to hear that... I am in process of redoing my whole set up. moving from a hassio on rp3 to a virtual machine with a virtual environment install

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debating ubuntu or debian as the base os for it

rose comet
#

I just did that myself, from pi with hassio to home assistant on ubuntu

#

so much faster with restarts

royal hatch
#

you using ubuntu server? desktop?

rose comet
#

desktop

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I dont really have the patience to use server

royal hatch
#

ah makes things nice when you can see everything I bet... I totally understand that

#

I have recently been trying to up my server and virtual machine knowledge... so this is like a side quest in my life along those lines

rose comet
#

yeah, its too much of a struggle for me to just use the terminal the whole time

royal hatch
#

gotcha

rose comet
#

I didnt do a VM on the pc though,

#

not really sure what the point of doing it is though so probably should have

#

seems so many people do that

royal hatch
#

well

#

my original reason is that I had linux stuff running on ubuntu... and I wanted to get blue iris (windows only) running as well

#

but I only have 1 physical machine

rose comet
#

ah

royal hatch
#

so I had to use virtual machines to get them both on there

rose comet
#

makes sense

#

I went with docker and so far everything I need can run on docker containers in linux

royal hatch
#

nice... I have used docker a bit... but I have come to the conclusion for most of my purposes it just complicates things, but it really depends what it is.

#

that being said I am planning to use docker... but not as much as I was before

rose comet
#

I felt that way too until I setup portainer, then I was like... oh okay this seems worth it now

#

plus I really just did it to learn something new

#

but yea, I have 3 google devices and 3 amazon devices, trying to just call it and pick one

#

then ill be trading the rest for their counterpart on CL

#

I really just use them for multiroom spotify ocassionally, and room specific automation announcements + of course voice control

royal hatch
#

nice!

#

I use chromecasts for multiroom spotify

#

I try to avoid voice control

#

don't like things listening to me all the time

rose comet
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

#

Im assuming our phones are already doing it

#

why not pile them on

royal hatch
#

πŸ˜„

#

I used to have the always listen setting enabled on my phone

#

now it only records when triggered

#

but who knows

#

that was just the recorded history they would let me see

#

they are possibly recording all the time

rose comet
#

i dont plan on becoming a senator or anything

#

whatevs

royal hatch
#

LoL me either

rose comet
#

google take the wheel

#

gives in totally

royal hatch
#

πŸ˜„ overall I like google

alpine parcel
#

Morning guys

quiet cobalt
#

Any way to make Google assistant to not be a test app if making your own app

orchid rose
#

I guess that would mean it's available for everyone, so no afaik

light trout
#

Google has documentation on how you can create and publish your own app

hearty depot
#

Somebody got a gas boiler ? In my Apartment ive got one for hot Water and the heating. (in the bath) So I stood in there with closed door - brushing teeth and the Shower is running and I start to see little flying dots reminded me on the souls in FFX https://youtu.be/s5JAYegGDyI?list=PLV3JRobMQrP-K0KQNrOjRhDAFAuesAnvR&t=4829 (much smaller) - How high are the chances that ive getting CO poisend? 🀣

quiet cobalt
#

@hearty depot how ya going buddy

hearty depot
#

Not dead yet πŸ˜„
Just friggleing with conditions in my automations
When I stand in the shower my mligt turns off time to time

#

I`m being stupid on this one..

quiet cobalt
#

@vague ginkgo i LIKE YOUR LOVELACE WELL YOU SHARE

#

LOL

#

i GETTING CLOSER OF HOW i going to get my project on its beta test πŸ˜„ its my 1st one it and chores doer

#

is it name I think lol

#

but before I get back to that I need a notify to work I trying to get google hangout to work.

#

@hearty depot what notify you use

hearty depot
#

Telegram and HTML5 - Hangouts is hard due to the Oauth

#

Known Issue - you have to somehow extract the hangouts token

#

But just got it working that my android IP webcam wich is facing to the front door sends me a short telegram gif when someone enters - Thats quite awesome

quiet cobalt
#

telegram can send pic to πŸ˜„

#

nice maybe I try that

#

do you need the app on your phone too?

#

@hearty depot just sent ya an pic in pm of it πŸ˜„ the chores doer

hearty depot
#

chores doer?

#

Jea - telegram needs to be installed

coarse sail
vale shale
#

Any good keyboards that anyone would recommend for the holidays?

wet pilot
#

❀ mechanicals

quaint coral
#

has anyone seen a "smart knob / dial" sort of device? Basically a controller / input device that operates like the Nest thermostat's input device. Hoping to use it for a remote volume knob or something similar. :D

#

@vale shale for yourself? do you play video games? there are lots of boards out there, what are you looking for?

wet pilot
quaint coral
#

nice ty

vale shale
#

Mainly coding, for myself πŸ˜› , sometimes video games, and any kind really. I am just curious what people are using.

quaint coral
chilly goblet
#

@vale shale I'm using the Razer Chroma Ornata and I love it. It's not a "proper" mechanical keyboard, but it feels like one and the keys are silent enough so that I don't annoy coworkers.

slim rampartBOT
#

@wicked aspen, you joined Other.

languid sphinx
#

Everyone has told me they have no money to get my any big Christmas gifts this year yet I keep adding smarthome items to my wishlist. Heh.

true canopy
#

hi boy, does anyone use alexa with hassio?

amber bramble
#

ugh amazon customer service keeps getting worse

vapid mirage
#

Can anyone point me to how my google home can see my custom groups from HA?

vague ginkgo
#

@quiet cobalt that's actually @solar stag 's Lovelace. You should DM him.

#

@hearty depot hangouts is actually super easy, you just gotta set it up with the integrations, and the app specific password

#

@vapid mirage are you using HA Cloud or the Google Assistant component?

modest herald
#

Is it a good idea to run Home Assistant as a central hub for home related activities (not just automation)? I get that to a point it's build to solve that problem and I can have iframes to pull in other information, but is it a good solution for that? I'm talking bulling in panels for banking, pantry inventory, etc ... or am I better off using a more generic solution and pulling panels from Home Assistant into that?

wet pilot
#

Might be better going the other way

#

And a lot of sites block iframes these days

modest herald
#

I'm happy to build scrapers around things that block iframes (for my own use)

wet pilot
#

Fair enough

#

Might be able to to get away with things in the Lovelace frontend

modest herald
#

Yeah, that's what I was thinking ... I had a pet project from about an year ago that kind of was doing something similar to what lovelace does/looks like, but just wondering if it's worth doing anything more on that or just jumping onto lovelace for it and worry only about the data feeds and live with whatever is already available for the UI ...

clever mortar
#

Well, Lovelace will replace the stock UI in 0.84

#

Making your extra features work with Lovelace should in the long run be your best approach, because if it's integrated with HA then you can use the full power of HA with it

#

People have already built a banking component (for one UK bank), and there's a shopping list component that may make a good starting point for an inventory one, and so on

modest herald
#

Thanks for the advice guys ... probably makes the most sense, since I enjoy mostly the back-end development anyway πŸ˜ƒ

wet pilot
#

Same, I'm terrible at front ends

hearty depot
#

@vague ginkgo - thanks - ll try now!
But cant get the app specific password.. Even after I enabled the less secure apps. Dang

#

Ah... Maybe I just have to enable 2fa
-> Got now the App password - but still - Invalid data...
https://hastebin.com/buqojafeto.py
Just wait and try again in some hours - But suspecting the integration sends realy 'Passwd-hidden' as password

coarse beacon
#

Am I retarded or is there no real difference between the single vs double fibaro switch besides that one can handle two outputs?

vapid mirage
#

@vague ginkgo not yet, didnt want to commit to cloud or open external

clever mortar
#

If you want it to see anything about your HA, you need to pick one πŸ˜‰

distant stream
#

Ubiquiti really hates snmp

#

Ive slowly lost all info over the last 4-5 firmwares

languid sphinx
#

I haven’t had any issues with my UAPs or my edgerouter. LibreNMS still tracks all of it.

sacred hornet
#

hey guys

#

im getting an error with the tautulli component

#
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.6/site-packages/homeassistant/helpers/entity_platform.py", line 248, in _async_add_entity
    await entity.async_device_update(warning=False)
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.6/site-packages/homeassistant/helpers/entity.py", line 347, in async_device_update
    await self.async_update()
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.6/site-packages/homeassistant/components/sensor/tautulli.py", line 95, in async_update
    self._attributes['Top User'] = self.home[7]['rows'][0]['user']
KeyError: 'user'```
#

any clues as to what the issue could be?

clever mortar
#

Biggest issue @sacred hornet is that you're asking in the wrong channel πŸ˜‰

sacred hornet
#

i keep getting confused about which channel to post in

#

my bad, again

#

sorry

clever mortar
#

Read the channel topics πŸ˜‰

tropic hedge
#

Are h.265 home surveillance cameras a thing / a practical choice now? I

dry cairn
#

no

#

h265 has issues

fair monolith
#

define issues

dull chasm
fair monolith
#

lol

dry cairn
#

πŸ‘ thnx vasiley

dull chasm
#

np man glad i can help

fair monolith
#

as in what issues lol

#

besides the good old licensing wars

tropic hedge
#

hikvisions h.265+ cams look pretty nice

light trout
#

Awesome @dull chasm 🀣

dull chasm
#

πŸ™‡

tropic hedge
#

@dry cairn What issues do h.265 cameras have? I'm not seeing anything when I search

fair monolith
#

@tropic hedge its the good old licensing wars

tropic hedge
#

does that matter if I have a Hikvision h.265 / h.265+ and Blue Iris that supports it?

fair monolith
#

nope

#

go for it if you want it

#

as long as you have the hardware for it

tropic hedge
#

I don't want to pigeonhole myself if something goes wrong in the future, but it seems like if I can go the h.265 route I'd get a better picture for less storage

#

so sorry for the n00b question, but do I need particularly good hardware for Blue Iris? The camera does the encoding, right? Does it cost more for BI to process an h.265 stream?

fair monolith
#

you want hardware with native h265 decode

tropic hedge
#

ah

fair monolith
#

aka any chipset from intel in the past 3? years

tropic hedge
#

that's good to know, thanks. I'm super overhwlemed trying to set up all my smart home stuff before dry wall goes up on my renovation

umbral yew
#

hi peeps

#

just getting into HASS

tropic hedge
#

I think I'll get a separate rack mount server to dedicate to my BI

fair monolith
#

@tropic hedge don't be, just run the cables

#

decide later

#

simply plan out the camera spots and do your runs

tropic hedge
#

yah, planning out camera spots now

#

which is also kinda tricky

#

(hooray sketchup!)

umbral yew
#

abount to flash to RPi; looking for options. the board I'm planning on using is the same one I used for my Google AIY kit, so has that expansion board. planning on setting it up on my lounge TV, since I have a speaker set there I wanna hook into

fair monolith
#

@tropic hedge the new UBNT cloud key might be a nice option

umbral yew
#

is there a way I can use my HASS hub as my google home assistant - not just link to a unit I don't have (yet)?

#

& what can I push out over HDMI?

clever mortar
umbral yew
#

chur

clever mortar
#

Please read the channel topics so you know what's on topic

umbral yew
#

k

tropic hedge
#

@fair monolith For what (FWIW I'm going Ubiquiti for the WAPs, gateway, and router)

#

err gateway and switches

fair monolith
tropic hedge
#

ah, yah. Any benefit to ubiquiti over Hikvision?

fair monolith
#

no idea

#

all I know is that UniFi Protect is stupid simple

tropic hedge
#

I'd definitely like to do any sort of Home Assistant integration I can

fair monolith
#

should be easy

tropic hedge
#

their nvr sure is cheap

fair monolith
#

ya, it would be your NVR and your controller for your unifi gear

tropic hedge
#

oh, I was confused why you said cloud key initially

#

huh, that is handy

fair monolith
#

its the cloud key gen 2

#

πŸ˜›

tropic hedge
#

Oh jesus, it even includes a 1tb hdd?

fair monolith
#

yep

tropic hedge
#

like that is just insanely cheap

#

I'm not the investing type but I've really tempted to invest in ubiquiti

fair monolith
#

pop in a 5 TB drive and not care about storage

tropic hedge
#

with smart homes become more of a thing and their awesome SOHO offerings

fair monolith
#

lol

#

I use their cheap USG router and the AC LR

#

home network has never been more stable

tropic hedge
#

how's that AC LR working for you?

fair monolith
#

fantastic

tropic hedge
#

I was going to go with the AC Lite

fair monolith
#

The nano HDs are the way to go if you can afford it

tropic hedge
#

well, 2 AC lites, one upstairs, one down, and eventually an AC Pro or LR outside

fair monolith
#

use a meshpoint

#

more designed for outside use

tropic hedge
#

what's the benefit of the nano HDs?

#

their site sorely needs a comparison tool

fair monolith
#

well, AC gen 2 mummo with a theoretical 1.7 GBps sooooo you are going to eventually see your wifi handling about 1 GB/s

#

my LR is gen 1 AC

#

its just future proofing

tropic hedge
#

are you using their PoE switches too?

fair monolith
#

not yet, I have gotten my hands on some dirt cheap business grade netgear switches with vlan support etc

#

I know my networking so it was easy for me to set up my IoT vlan etc

tropic hedge
#

oh, and on an off chance would you know of a good rack for my weird under-the-stairs setup?

#

err, ignore that thumbnail, it's a gallery

fair monolith
#

no idea

#

ikea?

#

πŸ˜›

tropic hedge
#

hah

#

I'm moslty comfortable with networking (I've got a 15 year old Net+!) but this will be a fun learning experience for sure

#

I'm going to buy a lot of the stuff in advance and set it up in my apartment first

fair monolith
#

as long as you understand the concepts of vlans and basic firewalls, you are good

tropic hedge
#

yah, just a few youtube refreshers and guides on doing it with ubiquit and i'll be set

fair monolith
#

aka put your IoT stuff on one vlan and cameras on another

tropic hedge
#

for sure

fair monolith
#

finally your personal devices

tropic hedge
#

and another guest network

fair monolith
#

yep

tropic hedge
#

I can't wait for that part

fair monolith
#

stupid easy to do with unifi gear

tropic hedge
#

everything else having to do with home renovation can die in a fire

fair monolith
#

I love how my router had a 1 click radius server and a couple click l2tp/ipsec vpn

#

no need to pay some provider just because I do not trust the hotel wifi

tropic hedge
#

heh

fair monolith
#

If I could afford it.. I would shove cisco gear in my house

tropic hedge
#

oh, have you had any issues with your cloud key at all? I've heard a lot of bad things about the dongle, I wonder if that extends to their gen 2 one

fair monolith
#

only the gen 1 was trash

#

the issue was power outages and the database running on the thing

tropic hedge
#

yah

fair monolith
#

gen 2 has a built in battery and will gracefully shut down

tropic hedge
#

that's good to hear

fair monolith
#

ya, I'm still using the google free tier compute for my controller lol

tropic hedge
#

hah, I saw people doing that. I think I'd just resort to running it on my desktop if I had to

fair monolith
#

I want it always on for my logs

tropic hedge
#

Holo: here's where I'm thinking for my cameras. I feel like 9 might be overkill

languid sphinx
#

My wife told me tonight she wanted a camera out front. I think I'll need a pro to run that cat5 though.

pure vine
#

@cinder hare I dont know if i told you this already, but i found your BBC weather custom component and am using it, it is quite nice

dry cairn
pure vine
#

I am confused about why this gif is here, the whole point of this channel is to chat in

tropic hedge
#

What's a "gangable" rack?

storm summit
#

@tropic hedge dunno but sounds dirty.

cerulean totem
#

anyone know what the google cast component does ? it would be really nice if the components had a brief not a the top of the pages to discribe what the do or can do

orchid rose
#

casts to google cast devices, but I never got it to work

clever mortar
#

Allows you to use them as media players and TTS targets.

plucky pollen
#

Dire cheap if anyone is looking for them

#

Dirt*

#

And they’re actually really nice sensors

uneven cobalt
#

Might have to try a couple. Works with native zha?

plucky pollen
#

The binary sensor does

#

Into HA* working on the pre req PR’s now

uneven cobalt
#

Awesome. I will give them a try.

plucky pollen
#

But on a trip for a week so it is prob a couple weeks out unless I get some down time

uneven cobalt
#

I'm using your quirks now but it looks like it will have to be rebased for 0.84 if I'm not mistaken

plucky pollen
#

Def will have to be rebased

orchid rose
#

it isn't unless you've somehow made it much more complicated than it needs to be

low harness
#

Who puts a zero-current breaker on christmas lights??

pure vine
#

thats going to turn into a wack-a-mole

vale shale
#

Anyone had any issues with the Unifi NanoHD? I am looking at getting 2 or 3 to replace my 10 year old apple time capsule.

languid sphinx
#

I have UAP-Pros. No real issues. I hate the controller with a passion but you only need to run that to change configuration settings