#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 324

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:31 PM

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what he do? fart in public?

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:32 PM

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old tweets apparently

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:32 PM

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lol

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:33 PM

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-gunn-exits-guardians-galaxy-vol-3-1128786 just as vol 3 started production

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I wonder who they will bring in

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:33 PM

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well tahts what you get for having facebag and shitter

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a whole bunch of snowflake shitstarters behind a phone

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:34 PM

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lol

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:34 PM

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they need to mind their own fuckin business

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:36 PM

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peopel need to watch waht they tweet lol....whatever you asid is now forever recorded

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:36 PM

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so

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simple rule stay of social media and problem solved

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:37 PM

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yup

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:37 PM

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i hope this crap goes away soon like myspace

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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idk man the moment i started seeing twitter handles next to news casters names i knew it was a done deal

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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it won't last forever

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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itll be replaced by something worse lol

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or something we jsut dont understand 😛

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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maybe we get lucky and that crap gets banned

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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someone really high up will need to say something so bad that they will go to any lengths to ban it 😛

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but yea i agree

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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sooner or later 😛

shy comet Jul 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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LOL

dry cairn Jul 20, 2018, 10:42 PM

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if i say something and you get pissed off even better ...go and complain on facebag all you want 😂

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:10 PM

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@light trout one 🍺 and I got 4 badges

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light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Nice! 😃

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Norwegian ipa

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Haha

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Never seen that one before 😛

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:14 PM

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Mistake it was imported via Norway

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Made in USA

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Can't you import your own beers? 😛

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:17 PM

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I can via hopt.se

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Well fuck you 🖕 I need to go to the Norwegian version of systembolaget to get any decent beers..

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Haha

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I'm sorry that your in the wrong country

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:33 PM

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yeah, I like it here, but some of our rules are f**kd up

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:37 PM

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It's ok u can write fuck

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😂

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:37 PM

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not when speaking of my govermnet, they might watch 😛

rancid lance Jul 21, 2018, 1:38 PM

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mindblown

hearty depot Jul 21, 2018, 1:39 PM

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CentOS when I'm not Wrong

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:42 PM

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@light trout which of that is barebone

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:44 PM

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?

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Esxi kvm

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:44 PM

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What about them?

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:45 PM

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You need a host Os to install those ?

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Or install as OS itself

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:46 PM

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ESXi and KVM is the OS

clever mortar Jul 21, 2018, 1:47 PM

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KVM has changed since the last time I played with it, back then you needed to install an OS first

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Maybe showing my age here 😛

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Me too

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:49 PM

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Oh fuck... you still need an underlying OS for KVM...

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:49 PM

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Well

light trout Jul 21, 2018, 1:49 PM

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With ESXi you don't

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:49 PM

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n fact, all you need to use KVM is a bootable USB stick with a KVM enabled kernel. You don't need an operating system on the host at all. You can do this yourself, or use something like proxmox which is a bootable image that includes KVM and a GUI.

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Proxmox then ?

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:50 PM

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need a cheap sony bravia with android OS

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:50 PM

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@fathom ledge why ?

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:50 PM

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testing

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buddy have one and he install kodi on it

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:51 PM

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I have one too

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Installed kodi

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But Android is so slow there

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:51 PM

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really

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:52 PM

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And it’s a 2017 top if the line model

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:52 PM

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just got a samsung yeater and I thought I could install apps but on samsung you can't

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what ur mod#

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Sony XBR-X940D

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@light trout in that case esxi is superior to kvm ?

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:54 PM

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oh ok I find out yester that only the X800 and above has the android os

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Yester?

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:54 PM

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lol twice I did that...yesterday lazy

clever mortar Jul 21, 2018, 1:55 PM

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ESXi and KVM are different, neither is necessarily superior

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:56 PM

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@lilac idol I got the samsung 55NU7100 going to return it today for the sony x720E

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its a huge step up from my 42"

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Nice

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If you uninstall all the crap they install

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And keep it the most necessary

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It works fine

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:58 PM

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I did last night on the samsung but the storage on the NU7100 is only like 1gig

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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I see

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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the sony X720E has 4 gig

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Great

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You don’t need too much

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Only a few programs

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The rest is streaming

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Samsung let me down lastnight lol

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Yeah

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Even WebOs

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Doesn’t have kodi

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Or the cool Android apps

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:00 PM

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what ur take on the firestick tv's

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Good but I will go for the fire TV 2nd gen

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:01 PM

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The reason I upgrade was to add kodi and dish the boxes but I did not do my research

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I mean the smart TV's that has firestick on them

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Oh nooooooo

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Don’t do that

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Really bad quality of picture

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Bought one 65” first gen this year on offer for 399

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Returned next day

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:02 PM

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and the ruku tv's any takes

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:03 PM

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The integrated firetv thing with the tv is amazing

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But quality of image really bad

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Forget about Roku or tlc

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You won’t be able to do Android on them

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Android is a must on tv

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Thousand of steaming apps

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Everyday new apps

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:05 PM

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I got a free TV deal a job I did offer me a TV with a budget of $530 so I pick up the samsung ... the only good thing I can say is the casting but I assume all can do that

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Yes

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And better

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With android

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

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am taking back the samsung today and get the sony X720E

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Better

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

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its linux base

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

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👍

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Running Android right ?

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

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nope

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:07 PM

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???

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:07 PM

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only the X800 and above have android

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Oh crap

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What OS is it running

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:07 PM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-55-class-led-x800e-series-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/5748208.p?skuId=5748208

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when I get to bestbuy to return the samsung I might break down and get it

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Oh I see

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what are you saying

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Heard that the new firetv has better image

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HDR support

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so that is another alternative you have

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you wont regreat the integration of firetv with the TV by itself its amazing

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android

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you will be able to install and modify as you wish

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:11 PM

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I hate the regular firesticks it has too many crap .. right now I hardly use it and I have 3

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worst buy I think

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:11 PM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/toshiba-55-class-led-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr-fire-tv-edition/6194911.p?skuId=6194911

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yeah but compared to other android boxes they are great

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you see this is the new model

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has HDR

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:12 PM

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you are selling me lol

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:12 PM

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check the reviews

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the only reason i returned last year model of fire tv was because it didn't have HDR

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this year it has it

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so I bet you the quality is the same as the sony

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and the OS is at least 50% faster

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:14 PM

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so you will take that over this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-55-class-led-x720e-series-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/5875600.p?skuId=5875600

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I read where you can use voice so that a plus

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:14 PM

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yes

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well its sony vs toshiba

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ummmm

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but only for the OS

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check the quality

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of the image

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they should have booth on display

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to be honest I bought the sony because of the quality of the image , I don't use the built in android too much because its kind of slow

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i have an apple tv hooked up to it

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and for my android stuff an nvidia tv shield

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in my other room

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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So I should just get the sony and since I already has a firestick suck it up lol

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Yeah you should be guide by the quality of the image

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stick is 30 - 40 $

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:17 PM

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yes the samsung has a nice quality

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shockily I have my TV and I only use the attach PI3 to watch TV

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:18 PM

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Or go to bestbuy play with the 800

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check image play with the OS

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etc

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but image is your priority from my point of view

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at least HDR if not dolby vision too

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Ok am sole am going with the orginally plan return and get the sony X720E

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:20 PM

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great

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sony is quality

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 2:23 PM

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The prime day had only one good deal I saw... Dot 2 for 49

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so I got 4 for ea room

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going to see if I can set them up as a media_player in HA

lilac idol Jul 21, 2018, 2:52 PM

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that would be awesome

dusty pasture Jul 21, 2018, 3:29 PM

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@fathom ledge https://community.home-assistant.io/t/echo-devices-alexa-as-media-player-testers-needed/58639 if you haven't seen it already

Home Assistant Community

Echo Devices (Alexa) as Media Player - Testers Needed

I’m excited to share with you all a component that I have been working on for the last week that allows controlling amazon echo devices (and clones) directly in home assistant! 🙂 What This Is: This topic and this post is a place I hope to use to collaborate with enthusi...

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 3:30 PM

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Yes I just tried it I got the alexa.py file and enter in my email, pasdw and under madia_player but its not working

dusty pasture Jul 21, 2018, 3:37 PM

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bummer. I haven't had a chance to try that out yet

fathom ledge Jul 21, 2018, 3:37 PM

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yeah don't know what am missing

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media_player:
  - platform: alexa
    email: “email@gmail.com”
    password: “pswd*”
    url: “https://alexa.amazon.com”

pure vine Jul 21, 2018, 4:07 PM

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try without the https

silk veldt Jul 22, 2018, 2:41 PM

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lol

harsh kayak Jul 22, 2018, 3:42 PM

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hey guys quick question i installed the ring component last month everything works cool except when i click to view last video it plays in slow motion any ideas would be appreciated thanks

clever mortar Jul 22, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Maybe you forgot to read the channel topic 😉

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That sounds rather much like it's HA related, which makes it off topic here 😛 Try #330944238910963714

harsh kayak Jul 22, 2018, 3:42 PM

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sure possible this is all new to me

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oh crap sorry thought i was there

clever mortar Jul 22, 2018, 3:44 PM

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🤣

last plaza Jul 22, 2018, 11:25 PM

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@fathom ledge you got wrong type quotes there is a difference between the following two: ```yaml
media_player:

platform: alexa
email: “email@gmail.com”
password: “pswd*”
url: “https://alexa.amazon.com”

media_player:

platform: alexa
email: "email@gmail.com"
password: "pswd*"
url: "https://alexa.amazon.com"

peak cloud Jul 23, 2018, 5:06 AM

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^ symptom of copy/paste. Lesson to be learned: Don't copy and paste. Type it so that your brain can better learn it.

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@fathom ledge Also, unless 0.7 (or later) for that custom_component has changed, it should only be url: "amazon.com" as the code adds the rest for you. Might I go ahead and point something out yet again...

**```
WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.loader] You are using a custom component for media_player.alexa which has not been tested by Home Assistant. This component might cause stability problems, be sure to disable it if you do experience issues with Home Assistant.

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@fathom ledge Yup, the latest appears to be 0.7.1 and the url is still completed for you in the code: https://github.com/keatontaylor/custom_components/blob/master/media_player/alexa.py#L502 -- just use url: amazon.com

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 10:22 AM

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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/academics-announce-new-protections-against-spectre-and-rowhammer-attacks/

BleepingComputer

Academics Announce New Protections Against Spectre and Rowhammer A...

Academics from multiple universities have announced fixes for two severe security flaws known as Spectre and Rowhammer.

fathom ledge Jul 23, 2018, 12:05 PM

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@last plaza I fix the quotes , and @peak cloud the url: "amazon.com" was already change to this format... also I went to keatontaylor link and download the alexa.py. still nothing showing up

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  File "/home/pi/.homeassistant/custom_components/media_player/alexa.py", line 95, in setup_platform
    login = AlexaLogin(url, email, password)
  File "/home/pi/.homeassistant/custom_components/media_player/alexa.py", line 482, in __init__
    self.login()
  File "/home/pi/.homeassistant/custom_components/media_player/alexa.py", line 519, in login
    resp = self._session.get(site)

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

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#330944238910963714

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:02 PM

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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researchers-detail-new-cpu-side-channel-attack-named-spectrersb/

BleepingComputer

Researchers Detail New CPU Side-Channel Attack Named SpectreRSB

Academics from the University of California, Riverside (UCR) have published details last week about a new Spectre-class attack that they call SpectreRSB.

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yay more spectre

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cpu that are vunerible Intel, AMD, ARM

dry cairn Jul 23, 2018, 5:31 PM

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only if you have physical access to teh machine

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so who cares

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:47 PM

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lol yeah

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cause lets face it physical access is fairly easy to gain

clever mortar Jul 23, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Cough

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:49 PM

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especially in a work place

clever mortar Jul 23, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Not that hard if you want it 😄

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:49 PM

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indeed

clever mortar Jul 23, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Shocked at how many people think it's hard, it's just about ROI (return on investment)

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:50 PM

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but ive seen zombu2 type before deny deny deny

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its just trolling imho

clever mortar Jul 23, 2018, 5:50 PM

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I was that person, some decades ago 😛

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Then I learned better 🤣

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:50 PM

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😃

dry cairn Jul 23, 2018, 5:54 PM

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no home user is important enough for someone to break into your house and gain physical access

rancid lance Jul 23, 2018, 5:55 PM

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well good for you

dry cairn Jul 23, 2018, 5:57 PM

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indeed

midnight adder Jul 24, 2018, 8:32 AM

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Hey! Quick question can i run home assistant on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B or does it need to be a B+ ?

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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It does not need to ba a +

midnight adder Jul 24, 2018, 8:34 AM

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Pfew haha, just ordered a full set so i was a bit scared

dry cairn Jul 24, 2018, 11:40 AM

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🤔 why order an old version of a pi?

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:42 PM

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(continued from #frontend-archived) @shy comet Wait, are you stating that climate change is a fact?! 😮 (@cinder seal @rancid lance @viscid crag @broken junco)

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:43 PM

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it is

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shit its getting warmer and warmer

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Hehe, I am glad to know I am in good company that agrees with me. 😂

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:44 PM

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haha

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:44 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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While yes, the population has increased, and so has the amount of stupid people, but it shouldn't be exponential.

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:44 PM

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just stupid to say its not happening

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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It is happening for sure

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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number of deaths, could also mean people are getting more stupid over the years

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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at this point its anything to satisfy the business

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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but again there alot of ignorant persons out there 😛

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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climate change is only real if it helps the business 😛

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Haahah, I love how we all went to stupid people!

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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We had the most snow in hundreds of years same year we have heat record wow

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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imho thanos was right 😛

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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we are in a real world Idiocracy

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plants need electrolytes yo

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:46 PM

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@broken junco In Texas recently we had a 70 degree swing in temperatures in less than 24 hours.

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70F

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So, 21C temp swing.

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:46 PM

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That's crazy @peak cloud

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Yeah, it was hard to believe.

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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shit 21c was you freezeing ? 😛

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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meanwhile its like 80 degrees before 8am in socal

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supposed to get to 110 today I think

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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Actually the reason I got so much coding done last week was cause too hot to work on the house haha

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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4 day heat warning

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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convert to metric ffs

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haha

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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So some advantage ;)

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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psh

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110 sounds worse than 40 😛

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:48 PM

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Lol

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:48 PM

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cause their bigger numbers

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llol

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:48 PM

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LOL

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:48 PM

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@rancid lance Haha, when it goes from 94F (34.5C) to 24F (-4.5C), yeah, freezing my buttocks off!

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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thats an insane temp swing!!!

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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-4.5 is nothing 😂

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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Ye crazy

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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I KNOW. And people still think climate change is fake.

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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-20c is nice

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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@light trout What about -46C? 😉

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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Thats more like it 😉

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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your welcome over here if there is that low temp here in the winter

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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The swing was crazy but - 4.5 is not

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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you guys must have some awesome wine with those temp swings LOL

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 PM

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its nice when the snot freezes in your nose when you go outside

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thats proper winter

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:50 PM

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The two times I've been to Niagra Falls happened to be the two coldest days for them in 2008. 😂 -46C

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:50 PM

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So same year we had snow depth record, flood, and heat record. Basically no rain since beginning of May.. W t f is that

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:51 PM

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@shy comet I actually think a lot of the grapevines died this year, causing a shortage.

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@broken junco In 2015 (or maybe it was 2014), Texas got almost 530" of rain during the month of May.

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:52 PM

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really @peak cloud the years that cali had the crazy drought was the year of the best wine LOL...sucks that htey actually died becuase wine does really good wehn it suffers lol

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:52 PM

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Here farmere need to kill their cows cause of shortage of hey

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:52 PM

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The previous record I think was 1929, at 529.5" or something like that.

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:52 PM

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Ye and Texas you got those twisters too right?

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They seem scary as h..l

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:53 PM

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texas has everything almost lol

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:53 PM

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Seems so haha

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But the oil compensate right?

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:53 PM

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meanwhile california is like 20 years overdue for an earthquake

broken junco Jul 24, 2018, 2:53 PM

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;)

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 2:53 PM

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@shy comet Ahh, apparently it was the wildfires that destroyed a lot of the grapes.

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Texas has everything but tsunamis, cyclones, and typhoons. 😂

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 2:55 PM

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oh wow, yea the weather has been CRAZY

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 3:01 PM

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all i think of is family guy when i think of texas

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seth mcfarlane really gives texas so much shit

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but the best in a long time

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is the flat earth movement

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@peak cloud have you ever run into those guys?

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 3:12 PM

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@rancid lance if the world is not flat, how do you expland how people on "the other side" don't fall off?!?!?!

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 3:13 PM

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https://media1.tenor.com/images/11dcaba6d8a80e7fc931bd67b02c5a5a/tenor.gif?itemid=5685655

last plaza Jul 24, 2018, 3:14 PM

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Ah! The flat earth believers! Can't have enough of them these days!

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 3:18 PM

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haha

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yepp newton's laws has nothing to do with that @light trout

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 3:20 PM

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Hell no, that is just science fiction!

dry cairn Jul 24, 2018, 3:27 PM

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i wonder why we can't round up these flat earthers and throw em off the end of the earth

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 3:39 PM

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@peak saddle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfP8yF5dSog

YouTube

NJOverclocked

OPERATION GET BANNED LOL

Content Cop: Ubisoft After months and months of dealing with constant hackers that Ubi refused to ban, now WE can all get banned instead for misspelling word...

▶ Play video

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creative ways to get banned

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 4:17 PM

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nice android p is gonna have IEEE 802.11mc WiFi protocol which is also known as Wi-Fi Round-Trip-Time (RTT). This new feature enables indoor GPS style tracking by determining your location within a building and facilitating turn-by-turn directions to help you navigate indoors.

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could be useful for homeassistant 😛

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no more bluetooth sensors everywhere

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 4:22 PM

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oh wow

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finally!

pure vine Jul 24, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Does it work in reverse, could open wrt sent the RTT for a client to HA instead of having an app on the phone

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 7:43 PM

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if the router supports RTT then it can grab the value from there i guess

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havent looked at the specs yet

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for IEEE 802.11mc

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probly should do that some day

rancid lance Jul 24, 2018, 8:04 PM

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https://github.com/threat9/routersploit

GitHub

threat9/routersploit

routersploit - Exploitation Framework for Embedded Devices

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pretty neat project

shy comet Jul 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

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congrats @light trout on the new green 😃

light trout Jul 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Thanks @shy comet 😃

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Oh geez, he’s one of us now?!?

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🙄🙄🙄

junior forge Jul 24, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Noooooooooo!

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Oh Holy mother of home automations, who did such a thing?

dry cairn Jul 24, 2018, 11:03 PM

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unholy thing ^^^^ ....fixed that for you

junior forge Jul 24, 2018, 11:04 PM

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😆

dry cairn Jul 24, 2018, 11:06 PM

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✊

peak cloud Jul 24, 2018, 11:11 PM

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😂😂

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:29 AM

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What's everyones favorite dimmer?

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:30 AM

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that's kind of a personal question ....

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:30 AM

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I know, that's why I'm asking 🤔

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I've been trying out the Leviton DZ6HD and matching slave switch, but want to evaluate all my options before I commit to buying an entire house worth of switches.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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i'd go for diy

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pwm with esp

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and a nextion touchscreen

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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The RGB homeseer dimmer is interesting, but I can't help but think that it leads down a road of making things too complicated.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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any dimmer that can be connected to ha works really

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Honestly that doesn't interest me at all. I want something off the shelf. 95% of my interactions will be via voice.

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Not worth making more work for myself and having to maintain it.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:34 AM

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wemo tplink etc etc

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Those aren't the kind of dimmers I'm looking for.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:40 AM

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🤔

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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https://www.leviton.com/en/products/dz6hd-1bz

DZ6HD-1BZ - 600 Watt Decora Smart with Z-Wave Plus Technology Dimm...

600W Decora Smart with Z-Wave Plus Technology Dimmer

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:42 AM

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so they have to be zwave?

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i got fed up with zwave too many lockups and problems with interference

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i threw all of mine out and replaced em with wifi

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90% of my house runs of mqtt

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:45 AM

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They don't have to be zwave, but it seems to be the default choice within the community.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:45 AM

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depends on who you ask

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lots of ppl run wifi dimmers and switches

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:45 AM

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I've considered Insteon but they have their own unique set of problems.

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Well, Leviton makes an equivalent wifi version

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And the slave switches don't care which you use.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:46 AM

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i can say my switches been up now for over a year not a single problem

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:48 AM

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One of my concerns with WiFi is security. Could run things on a separate network, but you never know what a device like that is doing with the ability to connect out to the internet.

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I've never run more than 15 zwave devices but it's been pretty solid for me.

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I expect I'll have some more issues with the metal junction boxes in my new house.

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But wifi would be the same way, likely worse.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:49 AM

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pretty sure if someone gets into your network a wifi switch is the least of your problems

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metal will kill every signal to a point

drowsy wadi Jul 25, 2018, 2:51 AM

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I'm not talking about someone getting into my network

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I'm talking about the device connecting out to a server. Short of putting them on a vlan that can't connect out, that's a massive security hole.

dry cairn Jul 25, 2018, 2:52 AM

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tplink then they don't require a online account

vale shale Jul 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

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@drowsy wadi Lutron caseta pro? That is what I am running and it has been flawless.

rancid lance Jul 25, 2018, 8:35 AM

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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malware-author-building-death-botnet-using-old-avtech-flaw/

BleepingComputer

Malware Author Building "Death" Botnet Using Old AVTech Flaw

A malware author by the name of EliteLands is currently building a botnet named "Death" by targeting unpatched AVTech devices.

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@clever mortar watch this 😛 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loBX_vEXxVA

YouTube

Eclypsium

Evil Maid Attack Demo

Eclypsium researchers demonstrate how an attacker with less than 4 minutes of "quality time" with your laptop can install a firmware backdoor.

▶ Play video

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thats some light speed disassembly to install malware 😄

clever mortar Jul 25, 2018, 8:44 AM

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That's what comes of practice 😛

rancid lance Jul 25, 2018, 8:45 AM

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https://github.com/cr4sh/smmbackdoor

GitHub

Cr4sh/SmmBackdoor

SmmBackdoor - System Management Mode backdoor for UEFI

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thats some sick shit 😛

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4.03 min

last plaza Jul 25, 2018, 7:13 PM

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this is cool... https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/drones/flying-dragon-robot-transforms-itself-to-squeeze-through-gaps

IEEE Spectrum: Technology, Engineering, and Science News

Flying Dragon Robot Transforms Itself to Squeeze Through Gaps

DRAGON can change its shape to move through complex environments and even manipulate objects

rancid lance Jul 25, 2018, 7:18 PM

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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarm

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📎 unknown.png

clever mortar Jul 25, 2018, 7:20 PM

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See, if you moved to the UK, you'd ... oh, hang on 😛

last plaza Jul 25, 2018, 7:27 PM

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that is equivalent to 87 degrees of Fahrenheit. We get upto 120 parts of US - that goes upto 49 C

clever mortar Jul 25, 2018, 7:28 PM

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There's a reason I live in Scotland - it only gets to 30C if somethings on fire 😛

last plaza Jul 25, 2018, 7:28 PM

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I need to add C2F and F2C commands to the bot... to convert temperatures back and forth

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wow! 30C is ideal... how cold does it get in the Winters?

clever mortar Jul 25, 2018, 7:30 PM

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In Scotland, -5 easily enough, colder out in the country

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We're complaining because it's peaking at 26C this week 😃

last plaza Jul 25, 2018, 7:32 PM

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omg! a couple of years ago, we had -20F here... that translates to -28C

clever mortar Jul 25, 2018, 7:32 PM

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We don't get that cold, thankfully

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That's proper cold, and the UK public transport wouldn't cope 😛

last plaza Jul 25, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Yep. We leave Vegetables and beer outside in the garage. Natural freezer/refrigerator

rancid lance Jul 25, 2018, 7:37 PM

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ffs im norse born

strong needle Jul 25, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Evening all first time user here, hope you're all well this evening!

shy comet Jul 25, 2018, 10:27 PM

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hello and welcome!

strong needle Jul 25, 2018, 10:27 PM

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roonHI

sharp path Jul 26, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Hellow ! °^°

sterile radish Jul 26, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Can anyone tell me what is wrong with the below service call?
{
"entity_id": "image_processing.facebox_local_cam", "name": "Joe", "file_path": "./local/joe.jpg"
}

last plaza Jul 26, 2018, 4:20 AM

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@sterile radish it must be the path. the path must be accessible by the home assistant. try giving full path, and also make sure you whitelist the folder/path in config file

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add the following to your config path and change the location of the folder accordingly ```
whitelist_external_dirs:

'/home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/www'

fathom bay Jul 26, 2018, 7:44 AM

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Google announces its own security key for stronger logins

Released first to Cloud customers, the key will be made available to the public in the coming months

sterile radish Jul 26, 2018, 9:52 AM

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@last plaza don’t think that directory will work I’m running hass.io.

junior forge Jul 26, 2018, 10:59 AM

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@fathom bay I'm using a Yubikey for a long time already, which also supports U2F, but additionally GPG (which I use for SSH, email and Git signing).

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While cool and all, it looks like Googles key only does U2F (FIDO)

rancid lance Jul 26, 2018, 2:12 PM

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https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/304725

Vulnerability Note VU#304725 - Bluetooth implementations may not s...

Bluetooth firmware or operating system software drivers may not sufficiently validate elliptic curve parameters used to generate public keys during a Diffie-Hellman key exchange, which may allow a remote attacker to obtain the encryption key used by the device.

dry cairn Jul 26, 2018, 3:01 PM

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yubikey is nice i got one

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still trying to figure out how to do the ssh

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when i got that down ima lock down all my ubiquiti routers and switches with it

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and all my servers

rancid lance Jul 26, 2018, 7:37 PM

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/07/26/philips-hue-new-smart-bathroom-mirror-also-lets-slip-new-outdoor-light-strips/

Android Police

Philips Hue family expands with Adore illuminated mirror, tease of...

Smart lights might not seem very exciting, but once you get a set of your own, the convenience of automated home lighting is sure to change your mind. So a... by Ryne Hager in News, Smart Home

flat lintel Jul 26, 2018, 9:24 PM

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https://blog.talosintelligence.com/2018/07/samsung-smartthings-vulns.html?m=1&

Vulnerability Spotlight: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Samsung Smart...

A blog from the world class Intelligence Group, Talos, Cisco's Intelligence Group

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Cisco disclosed a few vulns in SmartThings

fathom bay Jul 27, 2018, 1:10 AM

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📎 image.png

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Today's Cloud9 Splash Screen

dry cairn Jul 27, 2018, 1:46 AM

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🤷

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 6:48 AM

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Thank god its ~~Friday~~ almost monday!

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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K where are the bad dad jokes

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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What’s brown and sticky? A stick.

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Hi-five

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:52 AM

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Thank god its Friday and only 4 hours at the office..

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:53 AM

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@vast dove terrible

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Just what I expected

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:53 AM

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you asked, i delivered

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😛

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Lol

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:53 AM

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@regal narwhal What’s Forrest Gump’s password?

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:54 AM

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1forest1

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:54 AM

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you googled it 😮

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Stop using Google Assistant to get Dad jokes hahaha

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Hahaha I've been having it tell me dad jokes for the last 5 minutes I just got that one

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They're all terrible, as expected

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Why do you never see elephants hiding in trees?

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Why

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They're fat

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Because they’re so good at it.

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Lol what

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:56 AM

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😄

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 6:58 AM

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What can you put into a barrel that you can see with the naked eye, and makes the barrel lighter. I heard this one from 'are you afraid of the dark ' when I was a kid. No cheating!

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Nothing? 😛

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:00 AM

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A hole 😁

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 7:01 AM

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:D:D

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:07 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s38WSfdZfLc

YouTube

EDM Movement

Best Moments of Salvatore Ganacci (Tomorrowland 2018 Edition)

Salvatore Ganacci has been known in the scene for his memorable dance moves and funny moments on stage, this is just an example of that. Follow EDM Movement ...

▶ Play video

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(its friday right?)

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:13 AM

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Have you been there?

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Nope, but that guy is just... like

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mentally insane?

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just fun to watch 😛

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:15 AM

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That guys having enough fun for all of us

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:15 AM

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I would like to attend that festival at some point 😛

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:16 AM

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Ugh I have 6 hours left of work.

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:16 AM

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Well... there is nothing wrong with a "fuck the world" attitude...

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I just arrived at work

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So don't get me started...

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:16 AM

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It's midnight

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Ugh

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What do you do for work

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:16 AM

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09:16AM (UTC+2)

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:16 AM

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I rolled out of the bed a hour ago, opend the computer and started working xD

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:17 AM

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And what do you do for work

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:17 AM

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@regal narwhal That is a good question

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Lol

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Play in discord is one part of it right?

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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@regal narwhal Tehcnical support (2.line)

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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@light trout does that suck

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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I'm an IT Manager of a company. But I'm one of those managers that wants to keep his hands in the dirt.. So I program along with the guys as much as I can.

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:19 AM

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At times, but usually it's fullfilling

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:19 AM

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@junior forge that sounds enjoyable. I start my computer science degree next month. Hope to be there someday

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@light trout whenever I get tech support it's always a guy I can't understand and I feel bad for asking him 30 times to repeat himself

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:20 AM

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@regal narwhal I never went to school. I started fooling around with computers on my 6th birthday and programming about a year later.

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I'm now 36

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Never stopped doing what I did

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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@regal narwhal My users are not technical at all, so when I talk to them I really need to "dumb" myself down xD

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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@junior forgei started with vb6 if I remember correctly? But I never had the foundation, I did a lot of jQuery, css, and tried my hands with have for Android development but gah, I need some structured learning.

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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@light trout Ok.. .that is just to easy... I'm going to shut up and not make a joke about that 😛

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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@light trout"sir, is the device on?" - kill me now

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, 😄

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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hehehe

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Do it

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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@regal narwhal precicly like that! :P
andd "is the box under the table on, not just the monitor"....

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:23 AM

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*Java for Android. I never got into any real languages long enough to be good.

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@light trout tech support for what kinds of device?

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:25 AM

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I work for a software company, so usually I work with configuring the system and/or DB, not much devices (but that happen to from time to time)

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 7:25 AM

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Ah gotcha

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@junior forge so how'd you get your first it job

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:39 AM

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I guess you are after my first programming job

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Well... I did a lot of "open source" (pre-github) stuff.

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So i started on a school, which I didn't like

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and got offered a job by a large multinational

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:45 AM

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@junior forge do you know if there ever will be a posibility for a addon to get /var/run/docker.sock mapped in it?

junior forge Jul 27, 2018, 7:45 AM

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@light trout Fair answer: I hope not

light trout Jul 27, 2018, 7:46 AM

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Yeah, I tough so...
Would be cool to have ha-dockermon as a addon, but it require access to the socket to do its job :/

rancid lance Jul 27, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Torrowland is fun 😃

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EDM Miami Winter Conferance is better however 😄

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 9:02 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3czPyn8q0vw seems fun 😄

rancid lance Jul 27, 2018, 9:05 AM

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Monday bar

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stockholm - riga

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on a boat

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non stop party 48h

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massive dj line up

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done a couple of those

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fucking wrecked when you get home

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Plane>Boat

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😉

rancid lance Jul 27, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Plane > Boat > Dead

vast dove Jul 27, 2018, 9:06 AM

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ofc

rancid lance Jul 27, 2018, 9:07 AM

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https://www.mondaybar.com/

rancid lance Jul 27, 2018, 9:33 AM

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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-netspectre-attack-can-steal-cpu-secrets-via-network-connections/

BleepingComputer

New NetSpectre Attack Can Steal CPU Secrets via Network Connections

Scientists have published a paper today detailing a new Spectre-class CPU attack that can be carried out via network connections and does not require the attacker to host code on a targeted machine.

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yepp that whole its local kinda went outta the window 😛

regal narwhal Jul 27, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Nothing is safe, my browsing history!

pure vine Jul 27, 2018, 10:24 PM

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I have £10 amazon money to spend, what smart home thing could i get with it

dry cairn Jul 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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a frequency filter for your modem

regal narwhal Jul 28, 2018, 8:45 AM

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@pure vine wemos D1 mini

sacred copper Jul 28, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Saw this post on SD... Any insights into monoprice products? https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/408311

Slickdeals

Monoprice Z-Wave Plus Products: Smart Plug & Repeater w/ 2 USB Por...

Monoprice has select Monoprice Z-Wave Plus Products on sale listed below after $5 off $25+ promo code HOT5. Shipping is free. Thanks live2hit01

Prices after $5 off $25+ promo code H ...

amber bramble Jul 28, 2018, 3:31 PM

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I've been happy with my Monoprice z-wave gear

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though so far i've only used their door sensors and multisensors

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I really want to buy that but it doesn't look like it's UL listed 😦

dusty pasture Jul 28, 2018, 4:10 PM

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@sacred copper I have the item pictured, ie "Monoprice Z-Wave Plus Smart Plug and Repeater with 2 USB Ports". pretty handy to put around the house to flesh out the mesh network, while offering usb charging & a smart plug

sacred copper Jul 28, 2018, 5:44 PM

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@dusty pasture thank you for the info. Will try it out... The SD post mentions bad customer report though.

pure vine Jul 28, 2018, 7:46 PM

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I decided to use it to get money off of a internet radio, mainly so i can MITM the app and make a home assistant componet

tall wadi Jul 29, 2018, 12:08 AM

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I made a sticker for my pi!

📎 20180728_153755.jpg

drowsy wadi Jul 29, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Any insteon users here?

tawdry crest Jul 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Just checking in! New to Home Assistant, new to Discord, just taking the plunge finally and checking things out here as I'm getting HA running!

opal basin Jul 29, 2018, 4:16 AM

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uh oh, another one getting sucked in lol

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welcome @tawdry crest =P

tawdry crest Jul 29, 2018, 4:22 AM

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ha thanks! this my 2nd time getting sucked in, had a go at it last year - let's hope this time i can stick to it, im already further along, so looking good so far!!

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Pfff worked on the Spotify add-on some days, then became sick

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now my GitHub notifications are exploded 😛

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 8:43 AM

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Seriously?

regal narwhal Jul 29, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Sorry that was in poor taste, won't happen again

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 9:16 AM

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It's ok @regal narwhal

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 12:31 PM

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https://www.howtogeek.com/359273/forget-voice-control-automation-is-the-real-smarthome-superpower/ not wrong in that people should focus less on voice control as a priority

rancid lance Jul 29, 2018, 5:08 PM

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s-smallest-4g-rugged-smartphone

Kickstarter

Unihertz

Atom, World`s Smallest 4G Rugged Smartphone

Tough, versatile and super portable, Atom is a waterproof Octa-Core smartphone that will be perfect for all your outdoor activities.

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haha

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Rofl

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So that is also handy in places where no phone are allowed

rancid lance Jul 29, 2018, 5:52 PM

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yeah was kinda supprised on how rugged and durable it is

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awv0Rs79Mvs

YouTube

JerryRigEverything

Worlds SMALLEST Rugged Smartphone - Durability Test!

How durable is the worlds smallest 4G rugged smartphone? Our little buddy Atom is here to find out. The Rugged Little Android Smartphone is here: https://www...

▶ Play video

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 5:54 PM

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can you imagine trying to type on that tiny screen!

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 5:54 PM

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It is almost small enough to hide in your....

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 5:54 PM

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LOL

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 5:54 PM

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socks

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 5:55 PM

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i would need a stylus for that thing just to type 😛

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 5:55 PM

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IT IS A PHONE

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😛

dull chasm Jul 29, 2018, 5:58 PM

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@junior forge my point exactly.... a phone should be a phone

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Old man walking 😉

dull chasm Jul 29, 2018, 5:58 PM

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🖕

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 5:58 PM

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I've still got a collection of "candy bar" phones actually

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They all work, though most are only 2G

dull chasm Jul 29, 2018, 5:59 PM

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in the most respect of course

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like you said a linux command does one thing well ... well a phone should do one thing well.... be a damn phone

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Yeah, maybe, but I really like having a pocket computer

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I do miss the 7+ day standby though

dull chasm Jul 29, 2018, 6:00 PM

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well its not a computer but a bloat of apps

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Hell, my first phone could last 2 weeks between charges

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Ah, Nexus/Pixel/Android One

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Keep it light and clean 😃

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Finding a decent Android tablet that's not bloatware is damn hard though, since Google stopped doing them 😦

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:10 PM

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I am having the worlds hardest time figuring this out. By no means am I a programmer but I have messed with it for a long time so I can at least understand why certain things happen, but damn. I can't wrap my head around how hassio and home assistant are structured

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:11 PM

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https://home-assistant.io/faq/#home-assistant-vs-hassio

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Any good tuts out there that you guys recommend basically for beginners? Explaining how we find a list of syntax that we can use, like "sensor:" or how to layout the groups.yaml

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:12 PM

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You've read https://home-assistant.io/getting-started/ and https://home-assistant.io/docs/?

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(these questions are technically off topic in #the-water-cooler FYI - you should read the channel topics 😉 )

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:14 PM

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/docs is so damn vague

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Did you read it through, or just jump around?

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:14 PM

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it'll have a lot of small details but no info on how to get at those certain places

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:14 PM

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(and yes, it's got some issues)

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There's also https://www.home-assistant.io/cookbook/ and the GitHub links from there - to people's live configs

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:15 PM

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or how they decided to choose certain method headers and what not

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Ok, very roughly the top level are the components

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Those sit with no spaces before them

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Then you've got platforms under those

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And then the configuration

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So https://www.home-assistant.io/components/sensor.template/

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sensor:
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    sensors:
      solar_angle:

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That's the sensor component

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It sits with no spaces before it

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Is there a list of platforms somewhere?]

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Underneath that you get the configuration for each platform, and that's the template platform

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Under each component

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/

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Now, not everything neatly fits that, for example homeassistant and customize, but if you assume that's a special case, it fits

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:18 PM

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I don't see "template" in the components place

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the components page*

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Should we move our chatter to #330990055533576204?

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:19 PM

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#330944238910963714 more than #330990055533576204

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But nobody else is here, so don't worry 😃

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If you look at the components page, there's a list of things down the left

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Let's pick one at semi-random, let's go with switch

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https://www.home-assistant.io/components/#switch

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In there you'll find many possible platforms

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(you can also search)

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If you pick one (say https://www.home-assistant.io/components/switch.template/) then you'll see the details on how to configure it, with the full entry required for configuration.yaml

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Ok right

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Would I use that to add a "card" to my "overview"?

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That would control say, my ge zwave switch

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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That's the frontend (or #frontend-archived )

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Oh right not card then

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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And yes, you could add something there to control a device that's integrated with Home Assistant

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Well, it'll look like a card

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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but in lovelace that is actually named a card

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Yes

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:22 PM

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is lovelace worth it to start using rigth now?

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Yes, very much yes

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😃

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I jumped to it and it meant I could reduce my groups by something like 70% or more

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:23 PM

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If i use that, i'll have lovelace.yaml do I only use that .yaml because my setup is very simple right now

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Lovelace is under rapid change, so each release brings new things

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And the channel is very active, with people developing custom cards

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Some are silly, some are useful, all are pretty damned impressive

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Definitely, honestly I usually grasp these things fast. I do fairly high level IT

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so technology is no biggy for me but when it comes to dev, i am just lost lmao

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Well, I'm no dev, so I can say that it shouldn't be an issue

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But, it is a damned big learning curve

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And the docs are a great reference source, but not so good at the leading you through learning about it all

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:25 PM

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where do you get options like " value_template: "{{ is_state('sensor.skylight', 'on') }}""

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:25 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:25 PM

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value_template

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where did that come from

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Maybe picking the template switch and sensor wasn't good choice on my part 😛

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So, a template sensor allows you to use other things and turn them into a sensor

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Same for switches

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etc

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:26 PM

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It's ok, I'm willing to spend my life on this lmao

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Earlier today somebody had a smart light that reports motion through the colour it reports

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So they've got a template sensor that uses the light entity, and that attribute (not state) to create a motion sensor

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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So just a status symbol instead of actuating the switch?

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Now they can use that motion sensor in their automations

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Depends, depends on what you're doing with it

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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oh so they can use that variable

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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They're massively flexible

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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to add to their automations

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so when movement happens, do this

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:28 PM

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I use a template sensor to take the battery level attribute of my device tracker and turn it into an easy to use sensor

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Yup

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Same for sun elevation for lighting controls. I could use a bunch of template triggers and conditions

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Much easier to have one template sensor, and some numeric state triggers and conditions

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:29 PM

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That makes sense, and it's easy to understand when talked about like this

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but putting it into syntax, properly, with all of the needed parameters

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whole new ballgame

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Only if you over think it, and keep in mind one gotcha 😉

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The platform pages show you an example config, and what all the options are

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You can copy and paste that to your config and have it working

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But, you can only have one sensor: line

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So, you either remove that and put them all together, or you have sensor two: and so on

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two can be anything unique

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:31 PM

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well its not copy paste you gotta change names and what not, and to be honest everytime ive tried its just given me errors and sometimes breaks it

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oh so it'll still know its a sensor

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even with a unique word afterwards?

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Yup

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Because sensor is the magic

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That's all yaml

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~yaml

velvet horizonBOT Jul 29, 2018, 6:31 PM

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YAML is the mark up language used by Home Assistant. Consistent indenting (two spaces per level) is key - read more at https://home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/yaml/

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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yea ive read that

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Now, if you run into errors, 9 times out of 10 the error tells you the problem

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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yea

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its usualyl a space

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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If not, pop by #330944238910963714, share your config on Hastebin, and somebody will tell you

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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fair enough

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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You'll get used to it, learning what's what

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:32 PM

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yea, I will

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I'm damn persistent

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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I started with this last January

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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go back and read the docs again with his new understanding....it will make a lot more sense n ow

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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thank you i appreciate your time for sure

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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things will begin to click more 😃

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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The first month or so were hard going, but I tackled it in small pieces, and that really helped

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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I have the docs website seperated into 100 tabs right now

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Hell, I spent a couple of months reading the docs and lurking on the forums before I installed HA

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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been like that for the past 2 weeks

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😄

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Ah, I've been there

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Lots 😄

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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I'm gettin there

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:33 PM

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we all have lol

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 6:34 PM

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I'm already a year with the project

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:34 PM

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ooh big question

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 6:34 PM

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even became mod...

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and still don't get it 😉

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:34 PM

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on this page it shows extensions at the bottom

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/

Home Assistant

Templating

Instructions on how to use the templating feature of Home Assistant.

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how do i know where to put those?

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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(Just kidding a little here...)

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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http://jinja.pocoo.org/docs/2.10/templates/ @devout sable

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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lol frenck

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:35 PM

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You use them in templates

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https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/sensors/bin_grey.yaml for example

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(that one is a little complex, but it's a good example)

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Or https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/binary_sensors/garage_closed_bike.yaml

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:36 PM

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it took me a few months to get in to templates when i started to dive in

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:36 PM

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Generally speaking, don't worry about templates until you're comfortable with the platform

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:36 PM

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he's got -platform: template before sensors:

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Yup

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:37 PM

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and its not sensor: he's got sensors:

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Because I use includes

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/splitting_configuration/

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My config is broken up into lots of little files, for my ease of use

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There's effectively sensor: before the first one and binary_sensor: before the second

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:38 PM

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yeaaaaaaa

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so that would be in your groups that oyu have that iterated?

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if you seperate everything out whats the config.yaml left for

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:38 PM

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https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/blob/master/configuration.yaml

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Basically, configuration.yaml is a long list of include statements 😛

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:39 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/basic/

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Hah, I was about to suggest an edit 😛

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:40 PM

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its so funny i can read what you did

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but why

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:40 PM

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yea i gotta get better at that lol

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@devout sable its a bit more advanced when you need to do those things

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:41 PM

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i can see the includes i can see the inside the files youve included

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but formulating exactly what you need when you need it

shy comet Jul 29, 2018, 6:41 PM

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when you start to get tired of 1000 line files you begin to need to break things down

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:41 PM

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I have about 12K config lines

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The right way is to start with it, it's much easier

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Alright yea

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Converting it after you've started isn't hard, but it's annoying

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:41 PM

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i'll stop askin dumb questions

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:42 PM

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~secrets

velvet horizonBOT Jul 29, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Rather than putting sensitive information (passwords, locations, etc) into your configuration, you can store them in secrets to make sharing easier. See https://home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/secrets/ for more.

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:42 PM

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That's the bigger deal

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:42 PM

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ive read that as well

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:42 PM

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(Hell, there are no dumb questions - ask)

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:42 PM

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man ive gone through a lot, my biggest worry is these LED's

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but thats for another time lol

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:43 PM

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If you're doing custom LED stuff, see #diy-archived

devout sable Jul 29, 2018, 6:43 PM

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switches ar esupposed to be easy and i cant get those workin

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lol LED's oof

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i mean they'll likely be dealt with mqtt and an arduino or whatever, but i'd rather have them direct into the pi3 b+

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havent seen anything on that, especially doing that and having it work in homeassistant

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 6:47 PM

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#diy-archived 😉

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They'll be able to tell you more

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 7:03 PM

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One of the great advantages of being sick...

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all the time in the world...

dull chasm Jul 29, 2018, 7:03 PM

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@junior forge you cant get off that easy

vale shale Jul 29, 2018, 7:14 PM

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LOL what is @clever mortar doing playing minecraft? 😂

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 7:14 PM

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😛

dull chasm Jul 29, 2018, 7:22 PM

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i guess @junior forge doesnt speak to us low life

midnight adder Jul 29, 2018, 7:23 PM

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hi guys

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media player custom component for xiaomi gateway network radio

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https://github.com/h4v1nfun/xiaomi_miio_gateway

GitHub

h4v1nfun/xiaomi_miio_gateway

xiaomi_miio_gateway - Home Assistant Xiaomi Gateway Radio

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😃

rancid lance Jul 29, 2018, 7:33 PM

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he tinkering 😛

broken junco Jul 29, 2018, 8:14 PM

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lovelace: house-status-card , evening

📎 hs-evening.png

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lovelace: house-status-card , morning

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lovelace: house-status-card , night

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lovelace: house-status-card , day

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Can also manually set modes and use as buttons... Love how lovelace makes this so easy to do

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This is how my first view currently look:

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Ohh shit wrong place...Thought I was in the lovelace... haha thats why I was able to add the images 😎

clever mortar Jul 29, 2018, 8:18 PM

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🤣

broken junco Jul 29, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Just realized... I mixed the morning and the day pics haha

rancid lance Jul 29, 2018, 8:21 PM

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cough

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haha

junior forge Jul 29, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Nevertheless, @broken junco it looks freaking cool!

broken junco Jul 29, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Thanks mate!

dry cairn Jul 29, 2018, 8:37 PM

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@dull chasm we the no good evil country folk

light trout Jul 30, 2018, 2:06 PM

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You are using pip version 10.0.1, however version 18.0 is available. mindblown
It is not that long ago I installed v10...

amber bramble Jul 30, 2018, 2:14 PM

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18.0??

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i thought 10 just came out

light trout Jul 30, 2018, 2:19 PM

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it did... I think they are drunk...

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junior forge Jul 30, 2018, 2:19 PM

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rofl

last plaza Jul 30, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Coding under influence!

light trout Jul 30, 2018, 3:58 PM

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The only way I know how to do it 😅

junior forge Jul 30, 2018, 4:23 PM

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For the best coding results, always pair program with Jack

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vast dove Jul 30, 2018, 9:32 PM

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@flat lintel doesnt seem to work 😃

flat lintel Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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oh

wraith gull Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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rip

flat lintel Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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lololol

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try once more

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plz

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vast dove Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Tried in pm as well, same result

flat lintel Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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there you go

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my b

lean pewter Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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👍

flat lintel Jul 30, 2018, 9:33 PM

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sorry y'all

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@vast dove wanna do your favorite mod a big favor

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and do ?help and then DM me the output

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thx

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nice

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@flat lintel it doesn't look like DMs with @slim rampart work

flat lintel Jul 30, 2018, 9:42 PM

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That's because of a limitation in Discord

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Sorry, I shouldnt have suggested it in the announcement

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wasn't thinking

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Other... like "Male, Female, other"..?

flat lintel Jul 30, 2018, 9:49 PM

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Other like channels

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non-categorized or Misc would be another term

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Why question mark lead to join a rank? Weired design

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@fathom bay kinda a standard on discord, don't ask me

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abstract sequoia Jul 31, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Does anyone have any suggestions for a smart wall switch that doesn't need to be opened to have it work with hass (so, no Sonoff... unless something changed)? Preferably on the budget side

last plaza Jul 31, 2018, 3:27 AM

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@abstract sequoia you can get the regular WiFi based switches like this one - works great https://amzn.to/2NWjVNC

abstract sequoia Jul 31, 2018, 3:29 AM

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Thanks! That looks neat! I totally forgot to mention I was looking for a single-gang two switch though. Sorry!

last plaza Jul 31, 2018, 3:32 AM

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there are three way switches available as well

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right, I don't mean a two-way/three-way, I mean two separate switches in one gang

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I don;t think I've seen the single pole two switches - whether it is WiFi based or Z-Wave/Zigbee based

abstract sequoia Jul 31, 2018, 4:06 AM

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something like the sonoff touch, which has a one, two, and three-switch version on one gang, is what I'm looking for (I need a two-switch) - but I'd prefer not to have to flash anything

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rancid lance Jul 31, 2018, 7:37 AM

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?list rank

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 7:37 AM

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?ranks lists available ranks

rancid lance Jul 31, 2018, 7:38 AM

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?ranks

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 7:38 AM

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Ranks

Other 25 members

rancid lance Jul 31, 2018, 7:38 AM

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so there are just others

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k

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 7:38 AM

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For now there is just that one

rancid lance Jul 31, 2018, 7:39 AM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 7:39 AM

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@rancid lance, you joined Other.

midnight adder Jul 31, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Hi guys, I have one quick question regarding sonoff

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anyone here?

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:03 AM

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@midnight adder the folks over in #diy-archived knows best about that 😉

midnight adder Jul 31, 2018, 9:04 AM

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Thank you

tribal token Jul 31, 2018, 11:36 AM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 11:36 AM

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@tribal token, you joined Other.

lavish smelt Jul 31, 2018, 11:56 AM

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?rank

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 11:56 AM

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**Command:** ?rank

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Usage: ?rank [rank name]
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lavish smelt Jul 31, 2018, 11:56 AM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 11:56 AM

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@lavish smelt, you joined Other.

onyx gyro Jul 31, 2018, 12:09 PM

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ahh what a day. 3d printer broke in a way i have no idea what happened, my snips.ai setup not working as intended, a package lost in transit,.. wow

maiden estuary Jul 31, 2018, 12:10 PM

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@dry cairn - how have you got your "family"setup to access your plex server? I want to know the best way of doing user management

tame hazel Jul 31, 2018, 12:26 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 12:26 PM

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@tame hazel, you joined Other.

crisp locust Jul 31, 2018, 12:42 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 12:42 PM

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@crisp locust, you joined Other.

quartz brook Jul 31, 2018, 12:46 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 12:46 PM

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@quartz brook, you joined Other.

quartz brook Jul 31, 2018, 12:47 PM

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wee i have no idea what that means but i wanna join the club too!!!

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 12:48 PM

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@quartz brook That activates some "spam" channels listed in the category "Other"

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GitHub and reddit feeds and the botspam channels

quartz brook Jul 31, 2018, 12:54 PM

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ahh ok i see. more stuff to read 😃

vale shale Jul 31, 2018, 1:08 PM

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~format

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green verge Jul 31, 2018, 1:41 PM

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?rank others

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 1:41 PM

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dynoError That rank doesn't exist.

green verge Jul 31, 2018, 1:42 PM

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?rank other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 1:42 PM

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delicate night Jul 31, 2018, 2:27 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 2:27 PM

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@delicate night, you joined Other.

midnight adder Jul 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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@midnight adder, you joined Other.

vale shale Jul 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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does anyone have any suggestions for a recessed network cabinet? I want to put a network switch in my attic but it gets about 115 degrees in the summer and 15 degrees in the winter, so preferrably with a n insulated back so that air could come in from the front where the house air is but not let air from the back in.

lapis laurel Jul 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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?rank Other

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@lapis laurel, you joined Other.

lapis laurel Jul 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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?rank

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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dynoError That rank doesn't exist.

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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?ranks to list them "all", but there is only one 😛

lapis laurel Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Hehe tnx

teal pebble Jul 31, 2018, 5:47 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 5:47 PM

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@teal pebble, you joined Other.

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 5:52 PM

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Since this is the lounge... and I'm looking for cool new stuff...

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I wonder: What is your most favourite Home Assistant resource? (official websites excluded 😉 )

vast dove Jul 31, 2018, 6:04 PM

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github 😛

clever mortar Jul 31, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Excluding the docs, the forum, and here, I'm with GitHub as being one of the most useful resources

amber bramble Jul 31, 2018, 6:08 PM

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github and reddit

vast dove Jul 31, 2018, 6:08 PM

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I've learnt alot from @peak cloud and @clever mortar's githubs.

clever mortar Jul 31, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Funny, I learned a lot from @peak cloud and @last plaza's githubs 😄

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(and by learned, I mean lifted)

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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😄

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Ok I need to checkout @clever mortar's GitHub

clever mortar Jul 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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~tinkerer

velvet horizonBOT Jul 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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You can find his GitHub at https://github.com/DubhAd/Home-AssistantConfig/ and his blog at https://ceard.tech/

clever mortar Jul 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

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😛

ripe lance Jul 31, 2018, 6:28 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 6:28 PM

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@ripe lance, you joined Other.

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 7:39 PM

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I feel discord issues coming up...

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(or my fiber is losing light...)

vale shale Jul 31, 2018, 8:30 PM

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~vasiley

velvet horizonBOT Jul 31, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Have a Walk Around https://github.com/Vasiley

GitHub

Vasiley (Vasiley)

Vasiley has 7 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Ow wauw, How could I have missed that one.

clever mortar Jul 31, 2018, 8:34 PM

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It's his fishtank setup that's just jaw dropping

tall escarp Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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?rank Other

slim rampartBOT Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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@tall escarp, you joined Other.

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 8:57 PM

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My configuration on my new "Prod" system just pased 100 (valid) lines 😄 🎉

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to be fair there is a lot of blank lines to make it look prettier 😛

clever mortar Jul 31, 2018, 9:07 PM

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100 lines?

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Sheesh, I can't remember when mine was that small 😛

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:10 PM

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https://github.com/ludeeus/Home-Assistant-Config/blob/master/configuration.yaml
Have to start somewhere 😛

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 9:18 PM

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That is just AWESOME @light trout 😉

shy comet Jul 31, 2018, 9:18 PM

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i dont have pretty packages but I do got a grip of devices 😃

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~dshokouhi

velvet horizonBOT Jul 31, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Take a Peak at https://github.com/dshokouhi/Home-AssistantConfig and see if it helps

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dshokouhi/Home-AssistantConfig

Home-AssistantConfig - My home assistant config

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:20 PM

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@junior forge Not really 😂 but I'm planing to add more verry soon, I have 4 more test setups that I need to migrate over (some day) , and all configuration on the new host is done with Cloud9 😄

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 9:20 PM

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hehe

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But yeah... I'll have to admit... The repo of @shy comet looks a little more awesome @light trout 😉

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Indeed :D
Mine have been similar to that earlier, but I have not used HA for other that testing for over a year now, was time to get back in 😄

dull chasm Jul 31, 2018, 9:22 PM

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awwww @clever mortar

velvet horizonBOT Jul 31, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 5m 29s with a message :point_right: Attempting to find Barsoom!

shy comet Jul 31, 2018, 9:24 PM

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what did you do with all your devices @light trout lol

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Boxes in boxes in boexs in a closet :P
I have moved 2 times the last year so have not have had the energy/will power to start unpacking it xD

shy comet Jul 31, 2018, 9:25 PM

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oh wow yea thats a lot of effort

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Are you planning on moving again? 😛

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Not anytime soon 😂

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 9:27 PM

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time to unpack 😃

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I'm done with that for now

white fog Jul 31, 2018, 9:27 PM

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@light trout make sure to have a packing list. It's very easy for things to get lost otherwise

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 9:27 PM

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You guys are sooo distracting me from my new project

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No that I mind though 😛

light trout Jul 31, 2018, 9:28 PM

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@white fog It's a little to late for that now :P, but I think I have some controll of where it is 😂

junior forge Jul 31, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Just keep digging 😛

white fog Jul 31, 2018, 9:29 PM

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@light trout sure you do... 🤣

rancid lance Jul 31, 2018, 11:16 PM

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34c all day

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oppressive heat

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dying

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haha

shy comet Aug 1, 2018, 12:26 AM

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42c here

dull chasm Aug 1, 2018, 12:32 AM

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98 here

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i am american we dont do c's

last plaza Aug 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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~c2f 42 @dull chasm

velvet horizonBOT Aug 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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:thermometer:

Celsius To Fahrenheit

@dull chasm 42 degrees celsius = 107.6 degrees fahrenheit!

dull chasm Aug 1, 2018, 12:45 AM

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oh ... ok still dont do c @last plaza

quartz brook Aug 1, 2018, 1:33 AM

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texas has been too dang hot. my paint tray curled up and melted today. cow farts are out of control

amber bramble Aug 1, 2018, 1:34 AM

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midwest has been nice and cool this week 😄

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except its been raining for 3 days and i've had the windows open so the indoor humidity level is in the low 80s...

last cradle Aug 1, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Texas is always hot.. 2 seasons here.. Summer and August

shy comet Aug 1, 2018, 2:12 AM

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LOL

slim rampartBOT Aug 1, 2018, 3:51 AM

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@hallow escarp, you joined Other.

light trout Aug 1, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Same on docker/Hassbian/pip 😉 @wintry osprey

wintry osprey Aug 1, 2018, 5:36 PM

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nah, with pip or hassbian there is a chance you polute your venv ?

light trout Aug 1, 2018, 5:37 PM

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okei, if pip in venv then its more :)
Hassbian is:

sudo hassbian-config upgrade homeassistant=0.72.1

clever mortar Aug 1, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Oh dear: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/93qnm5/we_had_a_security_incident_heres_what_you_need_to/

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Somebody else who assumed that 2FA over SMS isn't secure didn't really mean that 🙄

junior forge Aug 1, 2018, 7:02 PM

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"we learned that SMS-based authentication is not nearly as secure as we would hope, and the main attack was via SMS intercept."

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LOL

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You don't say... 🤔

clever mortar Aug 1, 2018, 7:03 PM

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I know, it's shocking to learn that insecure things are insecure

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Next in the news, water is wet

light trout Aug 1, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Really?!? Water is wet now?!? 😮

clever mortar Aug 1, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Only between 273K and 373K 😛

last plaza Aug 1, 2018, 7:37 PM

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There is a rule in Security. You cannot make anything 100% secure. You have to make it just enough difficult for the hackers, so they go elsewhere!

clever mortar Aug 1, 2018, 7:37 PM

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Ayup

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But still, the issues with SMS have been known about for a loooong time now. Nobody should be surprised

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Then again, people think that nobody would ever look above the door/under a rock for a spare key...

junior forge Aug 1, 2018, 7:42 PM

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On the other hand, in the Netherlands we still have 1 large bank relying on SMS as an 2FA as well.. 😦

amber bramble Aug 1, 2018, 7:47 PM

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in the US we still have a lot of banks that don't know what 2FA is 😛