Tutorial Building Competition

[crystal swallow]

out of the 35 tutorials we just played at least 10, probably more were pretty good

[stray wadi]

Slin now that your here, why dont you like ice at the end?

[crystal swallow]

but all still had a bunch of flaws

most common ones is that it's too easy to die

[crystal swallow]

the ice is supposed to be a fun break between the more difficult parts

it's not terrible at the end, but it makes for a good reward after the jumping

[random maple]

@crystal swallow plzzzz give me some more feedback😭😭😭

[stray wadi]

ah, maybe ill move the grapple tutorial section to after the ice

[crystal swallow]

for example

could also do walking, then climbing, then ice as a fun hook, then jumping and grappling

or something

[rigid belfry]

I hate moving stuff due to the player size cap and the fog that I can't disable

[crystal swallow]

it's just that after walking, ice is the easiest bit usually

so it's good to put it between stuff

[stray wadi]

I think lava is overused a lot in many tutorials, specially on the grapple parts

[crystal swallow]

I do think lava between grapples is actually good

[rigid belfry]

I just make lava pit and that's it

[crystal swallow]

I do want people to have to respawn there and retry

same with jumping

[vocal dagger]

Yea

That makes sense

[crystal swallow]

but it should be low enough for people to not touch it if they do ok

and grapples should be very big and easy to hit

close enough to not have to jump for them

and only 2 or 3 chained not 10

[vocal dagger]

I think it should only be one

[hollow pier]

Hm

I think 2 is good

[vocal dagger]

Most new grab players don’t pick up grappling as easy

[crystal swallow]

you'd be surprised how good new players are at grappling

[vocal dagger]

But that’s just from what I have seen

[hollow pier]

Yeah

Lol

[rigid belfry]

Hey slin can I ask a question

[crude glade]

Wait how many issues did mine have

[crystal swallow]

it's usually the easiest bit after the ice

[stray wadi]

Alright, later today im moving my grapple section over to after the ice part, so you land in the ice lake and climb up a little cliff, then do the grapple learning(with lava at the bottom!)

[vocal dagger]

Yeah

[hollow pier]

When I started I was in the grapple tut for 48minutes straight just recording

[vocal dagger]

Cool

[crystal swallow]

there were at least 5 of the prettier tutorials that had major stuttering issues

[rigid belfry]

mine is like me

[hollow pier]

Hm

[crude glade]

What do you mean by stuttering issues

[stray wadi]

What causes stuttering?

[crystal swallow]

usually caused by too much of the 3k complexity being in the view at the same time

[rigid belfry]

I used ambience as makeup to make it less ugly

[vocal dagger]

Yea

[hollow pier]

Is jeff and mine one of those?

[vocal dagger]

That’s why some boxed levels have twist and turns

It helps reduce lag

[crystal swallow]

maybe try recording and playing, if that works without noticeable stutters, you'll likely be fine

[crystal swallow]

no idea, check yourself

[hollow pier]

Ok

[crystal swallow]

walls don't necessarily help with the stuttering btw

[random maple]

I'll hop on and see

[hollow pier]

Yeah I can’t

I can’t do much actaully

😭

[crystal swallow]

another thing is the descriptions

[crude glade]

Mine prolly is since it’s in a building, so a lot of the complexity is in one small space

[crystal swallow]

most of them are terrible

[hollow pier]

Damn

[hazy grotto]

Do you have any feedback on mine? Couldn't really ask in-game

[crystal swallow]

aft probably has the best descriptions and visualisations

[stray wadi]

Ive donw multiple recordings of mine and havnt had issues, which reminds me of the time i was taking a video of my tutorial, and then at the very end slammed into a circle awkwardly and fell off the cliff, which has sense been fixed

[crystal swallow]

it's too long, way too hard

[rigid belfry]

Is my description bad slin

[hollow pier]

Mine too long?

I’m worried about that

[crude glade]

My description is the simplest thing ever

Literally

“Learn the basics of GRAB”

[crystal swallow]

having to grab more than like 8 separate grabbing blocks after another is something 50% of new players would fail at

[frigid harbor]

Slin any final feedback on mine because every is asking

[vocal dagger]

That’s pretty good ngl

[crude glade]

Index’s idea

[vocal dagger]

True

[crude glade]

Index has a bunch of really good ideas

[crystal swallow]

by that I mean the signs explaining the basics

[crude glade]

Ohhhh

[vocal dagger]

Yea

I would assume it to be hard to explain

[crude glade]

Bro index made us go through EVERY SIGN ago fix grammar 😭

[vocal dagger]

Lol

[crude glade]

He complained about not using an Oxford comma whatever that is

[hazy grotto]

Well I tried to avoid that.

[rigid belfry]

Here's gameplay of my recent update

[stray wadi]

What do you think of my hand descriptions?

[rich citrus]

yo les go

[crude glade]

Dang bro aft gonna win

[crystal swallow]

well, it had some other flaws

[crude glade]

My descriptions are bad because it’s too long prolly and also I feel it lacks expression

[stray wadi]

The grappling seems a little hard

[rigid belfry]

Which one?

[stray wadi]

The first grappling segment

[rigid belfry]

also keep in my I'm playing with a wrist I had surgery on

[vocal dagger]

Dang

[vocal dagger]

Hope it gets better soon

[hollow pier]

Gg cat or aft

[crystal swallow]

oh right, I also don't like tutorials requiring you to fall into a hole or whatever to learn respawning

[crude glade]

I’m kinda screwed since I cant get back on

[hollow pier]

Their gonna be the ones probably win

[crude glade]

Plus I have school tommorow

[rich citrus]

could you explain?

[crystal swallow]

nope, sorry, some of the many things I already said many times in here

[crude glade]

Ice at the end is prolly one

[rich citrus]

ok

[random maple]

No

I like it

[crude glade]

I think most of us put ice at the end

[stray wadi]

It just felt very big, maybe try making the grappling bits lower and closer together

[crystal swallow]

currently trying to avoid level specific feedback

[rich citrus]

ok

[random maple]

😭

[crystal swallow]

just general advise

[rigid belfry]

Don't worry slin my good chum i added a extra bit just for you where if you look above the pit you have responded advice

[crystal swallow]

I can't do feedback for 35 levels

[random maple]

Ours doesn't have studdering

Yay

[crude glade]

But yours feels a tad bit long ngl

In my opinion atleast

[rigid belfry]

You don't have the fall into the pit it's just demonstration

[crude glade]

I’m not good at opinions

[crystal swallow]

I don't mind tutorials using the sign glitch btw, I'd prefer if they didn't use it, but it can make sense to make texts more readable

[random maple]

Understanding

[crystal swallow]

I also recommend everyone playing the original levels again

[crude glade]

Index told me not to do that because it would be patched, and then look weird bruh

[crystal swallow]

and then imagine all of those as a single level

[random maple]

Like that one map

[crystal swallow]

but obviously better and stuff

I am going to disqualify that one 😄

[random maple]

NOOOIIOII

sad

[stray wadi]

It would have been to good😔

[crystal swallow]

but honestly it still had one of the better flows

[crude glade]

Honestly in the end

I’m rooting for black cat to win 💪

[random maple]

Nuh uh

[rigid belfry]

Slin do you have advice on my map if you played the recent update?

[stray wadi]

Yuh uh

[random maple]

Nioiii

He countered

[crystal swallow]

#1145685995598127194 message

[stray wadi]

Yall are distracting me from my homework bruhh

[crude glade]

You can do it blackcat 💪💪💪

[random maple]

Nuh uh

[crude glade]

Yuh uh

[stray wadi]

Nuh uh

[rigid belfry]

Ouch

[random maple]

Yes😡

[crystal swallow]

it would be unfair if I told 5 of you how to make theirs better and not anyone else

[rigid belfry]

Fair

[stray wadi]

Fair

[crystal swallow]

and I can't do that for everyone

too many

[random maple]

Same

I pay

[crystal swallow]

but honestly everything I said in the last 20 minutes applies in some way to all of your tutorials

[stray wadi]

Whoever buys the most of slins packs wins

[rigid belfry]

slin if I gave you the data needed to remove every game and replace it with grab would you have my map win

[random maple]

No

My mommy never said so

[stray wadi]

Facts

[rigid belfry]

Hey black cat

[stray wadi]

Wut

[rigid belfry]

if you finish your tutorial

[stone relic]

Agreed

[rigid belfry]

Can you possibwy pway mine

[stray wadi]

I already have

I played lots yesterday

[rigid belfry]

I have big ol seizure

Nduen2euh3hehehe63h4nsgd

[stray wadi]

Ok i fr gotta do my homework now xd

[cyan oar]

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2a3gpy09xxjfr1wz03wpa:1694369640

[rigid belfry]

lol

[stray wadi]

I put off like 5 assignments til sunday because im built different 💪

[cyan oar]

it ok

[rigid belfry]

Oh magic 8 ball

Will my maps ever reach 1000 plays

[cyan oar]

i have one with likr 4k

[crystal swallow]

#🧗grab-general

[cyan oar]

ok

[rich citrus]

aft 2023

[frigid harbor]

Fruit 2023

[rigid belfry]

Bron_ze 2023

[stray wadi]

Blackcat NOW

[rigid belfry]

I had a flashback to a certain man standing in a lightning storm saying some bad advice

[crude glade]

Wp 2023

[blazing wolf]

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2bfkblo877yd29bbh5l15:1694371514

tutorial

[vernal notch]

I haven't started it yet... In 2 hours ima lock in

[rich citrus]

is new tutorial gonna release tomorrow slin?

[crystal swallow]

no

[rich citrus]

ok

but winner is announced tomorrow?

[crystal swallow]

not sure yet

probably not, but maybe

[fading herald]

Im getting flashbacks

I dont have a tutorial so

(Sorry)

(It was funny)

[vernal notch]

Honestly blackcat's has good explanation but not good looks, WPBrothery has good looks and decent explanation, AFT_daring has good explanation and alright looks

Brotherly has a lot of wasted though..

[crude glade]

Elaborate

Wasted what

[random maple]

Stuff

[crystal swallow]

@dense cedar is your level supposed to be in the competition? (https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29wqa67tov5nq1kmxsr2l:1693459007)

[random maple]

In the thing

[dense cedar]

Kinda I didn't wanna submit it because the signs have too many words and there were much better ones so I kinda gave up

[vernal notch]

Why should I help the competition?

[dense cedar]

But you can put it in the tutorials in bestnof grab if you 2ant

[crude glade]

Bro what?

[vernal notch]

Idk

[crude glade]

What is wasted

[vernal notch]

Mmmm

[crude glade]

Bro

What does that mean

[vernal notch]

Fine, each coner has 20 extra complexity in the to top.

[crude glade]

And?

[vernal notch]

In total its like 200 extra

[crude glade]

So?

[vernal notch]

I was just saying what I saw at first glance

[crude glade]

Alr

[stray wadi]

Why are the looks not good?

[crude glade]

Black cats looks amazing what r u on

[vernal notch]

It seems flat, ill look at it again though

[keen canopy]

Just submit it, mine sucks too

[dense cedar]

Lol

Aitht

Aight*

[vernal notch]

Well blackcat, your build is jagged if you took the time to add connect the walls and add stalagmites/stalactites it would look better, maybe even a cart/track

You do you though, you don't have to listen to me.

[stray wadi]

I dont like the look of stalagmites, i was going for an organic cave vibe, so i only used circles and squares, i wanted to add minecart tracks in the open slide area and give it more detail but im dead out of complexity, i might make the open area more enclosed though

[vernal notch]

Alr

[stray wadi]

The innards of the waterfall are meant to look jagged, like rocky and stuff

[vernal notch]

I can't speak, I haven't started mine yet...

If you got rid of the rocks in the waterfall you could add the carts but don't do it now, its already done.

[rigid belfry]

This is the final update my tutorial shall receive

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2be6m4805grk49usckjf6:1693747736

[stray wadi]

TUTORIAL UPDATE

i moved the grapple section to after the slide and added some mountains, also made the first climbing wall easier(it doesnt look as good, but it should be easier to climb then it was originally)

i dont like how thick the end rope is but i thought it would be too hard if it was thinner

[crude glade]

Fire 🔥

Blackcat for the win 💪

[hazy grotto]

Final update,
Made a lot of parts easier,
Added a couple of extra details,
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29k763epg4asdivyctend:1694032687

[rich citrus]

goodluck blackcat!

[shut meteor]

Gray

[hazy grotto]

Index

[shut meteor]

Stinky

[hazy grotto]

[vocal dagger]

Looc

Wait this isn’t off topic

[shut meteor]

Amazing

[craggy trench]

Is this still going and can I make a tutorial

[vocal dagger]

Yea but you better be quick

It’s about to end

[craggy trench]

Why

[hazy grotto]

You've got the rest of tonight

[craggy trench]

Oh wel I can’t then

[hazy grotto]

Lol

[rich citrus]

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29xc83sott7wc21mlni58:1693263561

final version last section was suggested by people who were in the lobby i was in

[stray wadi]

Its been an honor lads, may the best tutorial win

[vocal dagger]

[sleek stirrup]

Ludicrous tomfoolery or delectable sweets

[rich citrus]

ludicise prices bruv

[scarlet glacier]

congrats on winning

I am not even mad I lost by you tbh

your tutorial is really good

[shut meteor]

It’s not finished yet?

[scarlet glacier]

well yeah but like

[shut meteor]

Oh

Ikwym

[scarlet glacier]

I have a feeling he’s gonna win ngl

either wpbrotherlys

or cats

Jeff the bob dude should of focused on one tutorial tho

because I feel like it jus don’t really like

feel like grab

I don’t know how to say it

but I think most people haven’t really fit being a full on tut

[frigid harbor]

If you HAD to pick a third person to win who would it be

[frigid harbor]

No more submissions, MAY THE BEST ONE WIN

[vernal notch]

WAIT!!! I don't know how to post a map

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2bxznfs3tfog3d18517as:1690783275
I figured it out, yay

[crude glade]

Bro how did you get cursed phantom on

I haven’t seen him in ages

[vernal notch]

He made the base room a month ago

[crude glade]

Oh

[frigid harbor]

@long wind what the frick why didn’t you message me

[charred sedge]

wanna use your brain and read the messages under it first?

[frigid harbor]

Oml

I don’t have a brain

[hollow pier]

Holy shit-

Slin what time will the winner be announced?

[hollow pier]

No,jeff and I took so long on the first tutorial. We went over it a million times until it was perfect,we did what slin told us too ( just fixes and stuff) and we tried to make it as enjoyable as possible:things to look at,fun things to just explore,quite fun gameplay and stuff like that. We even did a test what you learnt after you come out of the tutorial factory, we added planes,tubes,a newspaper,a volcano,some little bricks,clouds and more and we spent like 3hours or some ThT ing just planning it out and we did all sorts such and sketches and just talking

[shut meteor]

W O W

[hollow pier]

It’s so good

When I read cursed I knew we were all doomed

[random maple]

Made a HUGE CHANGE

It makes it go faster and smoother

Increased slide length, moved back the "welcome to grab " sign, small quality of life updates

Small increase in detail

Added two, different styles of trees (thx to pnut)

(This was all done yesterday)

[rich citrus]

It’s up to slindev

[crystal swallow]

It's officially over now. Please don't do any more updates to your submissions. I am also not accepting any submissions I receive after now. All levels should be in the "Tutorial Competition" list in "Best of GRAB", if yours is not in the list, please let me know until the end of today or it will not be judged (and it needs to have been published before now!).

[random maple]

?

I was just announcing changes I made

Not asking anything

[hollow pier]

I don’t think he was talking to y

[vernal notch]

I made a editor tutorial up the stairs at spawn, small but works

[crude glade]

Wish I didn’t have school today

I might’ve been able to make a final change 😔

[hazy grotto]

Just play grab mobile

[hollow pier]

Yeah

Obv

Wait

Slins typing

😳

[crystal swallow]

Something that might happen is that I ask for some changes for my favorites, but I'll figure that out once I narrowed it down more

[rich citrus]

Wai wat

[finite crest]

Greetings, fellow explorer. It seems my fellow GRAB member, 'CoblerB1 balls is best moon,' feels a sense of surprise at your previous statement.

[hollow pier]

Hm ok

[crystal swallow]

based on what I played yesterday I don't think any of the tutorials could be used without some more changes

[rich citrus]

[hollow pier]

Oh lol

But you didn’t play all

I don’t think

[crystal swallow]

I did

well, there are 2 more now

[hollow pier]

..

[hollow pier]

Oh,you did? Ok

[frigid harbor]

Please do

[crystal swallow]

all but the two that were submitted after

[stray wadi]

Not sure when you last played my level but i made some big changes later yesterday 🙏

[crystal swallow]

I am aware

that's why I said "based on what I played yesterday"

[hollow pier]

Lol

[hollow pier]

Do you have a vid??

[crystal swallow]

it's somewhere above

[hollow pier]

Oh ok

[crystal swallow]

unless there were even more changes

[stray wadi]

Here

[hollow pier]

Yeah got it

[hollow pier]

Lol,thanks

@random maple just remember black cats when you think ours is the best

[hollow pier]

looks amazing. If you win I wouldn’t be surprised

[crystal swallow]

it's not just about looks though

[hollow pier]

The gameplay is also amazing

Very well made

[crystal swallow]

for example I think that AFTs tutorial does a better job at explaining how to move

[hollow pier]

Very creative way to teach

[crystal swallow]

jeffbobs dojo tutorial is also kinda great, but unfortunately has a lot of stuttering

[hollow pier]

Yeah I noticed that

[crystal swallow]

a couple of tutorials had some extra stuff at the end, but when you play them the first time you don't really get time to look at it because the game will automatically go back to the menu

I also noticed that a lot of the tutorials forgot to introduce the red end circle...

[hazy grotto]

I remembered to put the sign for the red circle in I think my second update

[frigid harbor]

😦

[random maple]

I didn't😈

Muahahahahahqhq

[crystal swallow]

disqualified I guess

[random maple]

Which one?

WDYM😭

The ones that don't introduce the circle??!?!

[crystal swallow]

yes

[stray wadi]

I thought it was obvious

[random maple]

W

[frigid harbor]

I introduced it twice 😈

[random maple]

w

[frigid harbor]

Red is usually a bad thing so

[crystal swallow]

mostly I noticed that the latest greatest submission is hiding most of it, which is definitely not good

[random maple]

MY COMPETITION IS GONE🤯🤯🤯🤯

[vernal notch]

Ohh.. my bad ill re-do it if you want

[crystal swallow]

it's fine for now

[vernal notch]

Alr

[crystal swallow]

I may ask people for changes later, after some initial judging

[stray wadi]

If i get past initial judging i can just extend my end sign to talk about the circle 💪

[random maple]

Nuh uh

I have a good chance😁

I believe in myself

[vernal notch]

Yay good job!

[frigid harbor]

If I’m able to fix some things I have in mind it’d be great

[random maple]

Nuh uh

[vernal notch]

Which one did you spend time on @random maple

[hollow pier]

His first one

I’m pretty sure

[random maple]

First one

[hollow pier]

We spent couple of days on that

[random maple]

Second one was eh

[vernal notch]

Damn

[frigid harbor]

Hey Jeff could I see the dojo in editor at some point, I might have an idea to stop stuttering

[random maple]

Ok

But I can't change it

Unless slin says

[vernal notch]

Whats stuttering?

[frigid harbor]

If you it gets past initial judging

[frigid harbor]

Imagine lag but it’s because of too many blocks

Not lag

[vernal notch]

Does mine do it

[frigid harbor]

But it just looks glitchy

[frigid harbor]

Havent looked

[vernal notch]

Alr

I got school now, good luck everyone!

[crude glade]

You can get disqualified if you don’t explain the circle ????😭

[random maple]

Skill

Issue

[hazy grotto]

Circle important

[random maple]

Too

Esy

[hollow pier]

Wait jeff did you explain the red circle in both of yours

[frigid harbor]

In one version of the factory by Jeff there was a sign in the red circle saying “THIS IS THE END”

[hollow pier]

Huh

Oh yeah

Ik

I helped with that one

Slin who’s disqualified at the moment??

[frigid harbor]

Cob

[hollow pier]

Huh

Ok

[crystal swallow]

EVERYONE

[hollow pier]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[frigid harbor]

Uh oh

[hazy grotto]

How do I undisqualified mine

[hollow pier]

Lol

[random maple]

Nuh uh

Lies

[wispy willow]

why are people disqualified?

[crystal swallow]

because they asked

[random maple]

Dannnng

[scarlet glacier]

oh ok

[molten brook]

Wait so none of us won?

[frigid harbor]

Nope we all suck

[molten brook]

Wow. That's a let down

[crude glade]

We are all terrible

[frigid harbor]

No not really

[icy kraken]

@crystal swallow when you judge the maps, put the ones that qualify for best of grab in order from best to worst if possible

[molten brook]

Yeah that would be nice

[frigid harbor]

Most of the tutorials are better were better than the original ones imo, but

[icy kraken]

@sliny

[keen canopy]

Mine gonna be at the end

[icy kraken]

Yea that’s my job

[keen canopy]

I know

[icy kraken]

1984

[keen canopy]

I’m not tho

[crystal swallow]

I am not sure I want to do that tbh, maybe the first couple and then everything else in a random order

[icy kraken]

Fair enough

[crystal swallow]

anyway, doing another tutorial grab time now, today hopefully with working microphone

[icy kraken]

Wait like 20 min

[keen canopy]

I’m on the bus are you kidding me

[icy kraken]

Please

Same

[crystal swallow]

nah, starting now

[keen canopy]

Wait slin if I add the red circle explanation will it be disqualified?

[icy kraken]

Pretty please 🥺

[crystal swallow]

sorry, but no, will likely still play in 20mins though

[keen canopy]

My bus sto if like the first one

So I’m gonna rush

[icy kraken]

Think of all the scrolling my poor fingers will have to go through

[keen canopy]

It’s a joystick

[icy kraken]

And what operates a joystick?

Also I have drift so I have to drag

[keen canopy]

I also have drift

[icy kraken]

Mine is really bad though

[keen canopy]

Oh

On both controllers?

[icy kraken]

Yes

[keen canopy]

Ouch

[icy kraken]

Once I clean them again it will be fine, but I have had so much to do

[stray wadi]

Im at school

[icy kraken]

Doesn’t really matter, you’re gonna win anyways

[keen canopy]

Why you have phone?

[stray wadi]

Lunchtime

[keen canopy]

You in pst?

[stray wadi]

Idk, i missed the red circle explanation 😔

[stray wadi]

Yeah

[icy kraken]

Me who wrote one short blurb about it on a sign:

[hazy grotto]

Everyone losses!

No u

[hollow pier]

Catcom

[cyan oar]

slinis typing

[rigid belfry]

I have appeared from the school realm

what happened while I was gone

[cyan oar]

ooh

[crystal swallow]

Lets start with an honorable mention: https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2bxznfs3tfog3d18517as:1690783275
This one looks great, I especially like the images showing you how to play. I do however think that the tutorial section is just confusing and not helpful and walking on those planks is too hard. I also don't like the ice part very much and the ending is kinda confusing

TOP 10 (in no specific order):

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29rkswgx13q8mej7mxdg6:1693432460
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29id5ta7mb54j28tz6wfe:1693592609
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2bckx8xvzyf3bplkkdcvk:1693321549
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2aqk2f39o44nxz0yixbas:1693357996
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2a7dx97v4xiepfpmj8gi4:1693404959

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2aejscunjtm5ktmn0lh0w:1693876855
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29t798uon2urbra1f8w2q:1693775768
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29xc83sott7wc21mlni58:1693263561
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29v9vd6n9z45d16mi2o2n:1693173542
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2abebn7t4lq4ydl89oxje:1693508616

[cyan oar]

drum roll

[crystal swallow]

All of these have some flaws tbh, but I think most of them will be easy to fix.

no drum roll needed, I am not any further than that yet

[cyan oar]

awww

[scarlet glacier]

no way wait

[keen canopy]

Awwwww 😦

[scarlet glacier]

I am not in there

[crystal swallow]

next I'll try reducing it to a top 5 or something 😄

[crude glade]

OH IM ON TOP 10

I’m scared

[scarlet glacier]

😱

[hazy grotto]

Damn

[crude glade]

Honestly I’m happy with that

Chances of me winning are unlikely, but I’m happy with being in top 10 y’know

[keen canopy]

Me neither

[crystal swallow]

honestly most of the ones that didn't make it were pretty good too

and it was already incredibly hard to narrow it down to this

[rigid belfry]

😦

[crystal swallow]

will be even harder going further...

[rigid belfry]

lol

[scarlet glacier]

bro I’m shaking

[civic bear]

slin you hopen on

[scarlet glacier]

if slin said that mine was good

I think I’m atleast in the top 5

[rigid belfry]

Welp

I tried

[scarlet glacier]

if I win I will actually be so happy you don’t even know

grab is my favorite game I’ve actually played

no joke

[cyan oar]

honorable metion mean u lost?

[crystal swallow]

what? but yours isn't in the list 🤔

[keen canopy]

Oh well

[crystal swallow]

and so did all of those that are not in the list

[rigid belfry]

you win sone you lose some

[keen canopy]

Yep

[crystal swallow]

you guys really need to learn to read everything

and not stop after two words

[scarlet glacier]

oh

[cyan oar]

i thought honorable metion mean u lost bcuz im stupid

[scarlet glacier]

yeah same

[crystal swallow]

the first one was great but didn't make the cut, thus honorable mention

the other 10 made it to the next round

[rigid belfry]

Slin I don't mean to talk back but half of us struggle to interpret words into idea

[cyan oar]

who in top 19

10

[scarlet glacier]

he just said

[crystal swallow]

check the list above

[rigid belfry]

since we're all dumb 11 to 15 year olds

[cyan oar]

srry im stupid

[civic bear]

slin when next elimination round

[rigid belfry]

Sorta sad I wasn't in top 10 but meh

I'll just improve for later stuff

[random maple]

I'M IN THE TOP TENNNNNNN🔥🔥🔥🔥

[scarlet glacier]

I’m jus surprised I didn’t make it in

[keen canopy]

I’m not

[civic bear]

nice

[rich citrus]

Top 10

[keen canopy]

Same

[rich citrus]

It was fun to compete with you guys

[scarlet glacier]

I thought mine was super good

[keen canopy]

Yep

[rigid belfry]

But I'm doodoo ass builder so

[crystal swallow]

partly because I didn't like the colors, sorry

[keen canopy]

Best of luck to all for smg 20

[slow zinc]

I agree

[crystal swallow]

or just the general neon style

[scarlet glacier]

it would’ve been nice to say that tho

[rigid belfry]

mine was probably to hard

[rich citrus]

Slin should I put a sign at the end explaining the end or not?

[scarlet glacier]

I could of easily fixed that 😔

[keen canopy]

Slin was there anything in particular bad about my level or was it just overall bad

[crystal swallow]

not really because I was trying to give general feedback for everyone, not level specifics

again, none of them were bad

[scarlet glacier]

oh

ok

[keen canopy]

Oh

Ok

Makes me feel a bit better

[crystal swallow]

if you didn't make it, it doesn't mean that your tutorial was bad, just that some others were slightly better in my opinion

[rigid belfry]

I'm gonna assume that the loss factor for me was the tutorial itself

[keen canopy]

Same

[crude glade]

I am scarreddd

[rigid belfry]

again in retrospect the winner is swayed by four things

Design

Difficulties

Learn ability

Slins opinion on how things look

[crude glade]

My heart is racing ngl

[keen canopy]

Hopefully there are more competitions in the future

[rich citrus]

I’m assuming winners are announced fully tomorrow

[rigid belfry]

Probabak6

Probably*

I might ask black cat to teach me building techniques

Although it depends on slins schedule

[crystal swallow]

I honestly don't know yet, I might even endup asking some of you to make some changes before a final decision

in which case I'll have to give a couple days time

[rich citrus]

Makes sense nothing is perfect.

[crystal swallow]

none of them were, but some seem much easier to fix than others

[rich citrus]

Yeah I can see how some are easier to fix than others

Hard to judge though

[rigid belfry]

Hey slin

[crystal swallow]

like tutorial islands, you could just delete half of the islands and it would suddenly be much better

[rich citrus]

Huh

[crystal swallow]

It might not make the next cut cause I don't exactly like the look tbh, but it does also get a lot of things right

[rich citrus]

Yeah a lot of them are very well made and higher quality than others

[crystal swallow]

in your tutorial the ice section is too hard btw

[rich citrus]

Is it the over the lava or no?

[crystal swallow]

the first one, yes

[crude glade]

If we get more days that would be perfect for me bro

[crystal swallow]

and I think there was two or three other things to tweak

[civic bear]

When the second one

[crystal swallow]

but I'll get to that once I narrowed it down some more

[rich citrus]

Ok. If you do give us a few days to fix I have some ideas

[keen canopy]

Second what?

[crude glade]

But if it’s on a school day then I’m kinda screwed

Since index for me comes online and offline whilst I’m at school 😔

[civic bear]

round of picking

[crystal swallow]

yours wp needs to lose all of the stuff after the first ice basically

[crude glade]

And I’m too dumb to do alone

[crude glade]

Good to know

[crystal swallow]

probably some other things too, but that's what I remember right now

[crude glade]

First ice idk why it was there I made it after overthinking the original ice part since I felt it was bad and it’s there for whatever reason idk why

[rigid belfry]

Hey slin

[crystal swallow]

it helps a lot if you just say what you want as part of your message...

[rigid belfry]

Fair

[rich citrus]

A man of little words

[rigid belfry]

Anyway

What was the leading factor that made my tutorial go bye bye

Also I separate portions of sentences since I'm recovering from a eye surgery and while I can play vr my vision is bad when dealing with text so I separate it to make it easier on myself

Although if it is a issue we can discuss a compromise

[crystal swallow]

add some new lines between parts then before sending the message. I just can't deal with "hey slin" or "I have a question" and then nothing for minutes 😄

[rigid belfry]

Ok

anyway slin what was the main issue with my tutorial that way I can avoid issues with later maps

[crystal swallow]

your map was good

I don't have any major complaints tbh

I just wasn't totally feeling it compared to some of the others

sorry, but the process definitely isn't completely objective 😄

[rigid belfry]

Fair

Slin at some point we should just do a competition to make the most enjoyable map for you

[crystal swallow]

maybe some day

[rigid belfry]

When the time arrives

[cyan oar]

#👋welcome i beat u at your own game slin >:)

[civic bear]

when is grab tutorial time i ate dinner quick for it

[hazy grotto]

Already happened

[crystal swallow]

I did say it was happening again

but it will happen when it does, whenever that might be

maybe in 3 minutes, maybe tomorrow

[civic bear]

ok

[rich citrus]

I have to go to tennis and I havent gone to a single one. would help if it was FAR later today. like 2 hours from now

but not my choise

[scarlet glacier]

could I remake mine like in a day?

Ik you said don’t try to update anymore but I feel like the controls I put were pretty good

[scarlet glacier]

makes sense

I hope cats tut wins tho

he has the best one in my opinion

👍

[random maple]

Slin do you have any feedback for me😭

[shut meteor]

Get gud

[random maple]

😭

[hazy grotto]

He still has to pick his favorite

[crude glade]

Index we might have a chance 💪

We gotta remove the end ice if he gives us more days

I hope

🤞

[crystal swallow]

alright, it's time to eliminate some more

[vocal dagger]

hopefully demise isnt eliminated

thats the best tutorial

[molten brook]

Oh snap

I just got here

[stray wadi]

I just got home

[mortal shadow]

No mercy 😈

[cyan oar]

mercy is no more

,erc

[stray wadi]

So i assume where unable to make any changes sense slins eliminating some now?

Took me like 10 minutes to read through all the prior messages 💀

[cyan oar]

skill issue

[stray wadi]

No, i just saw slin was talking about getting people to make minor changes and stuff, just wondering if that was applying for this first round

[rich citrus]

lets gooooo i did it in the last update

[shut meteor]

I think he’s choosing a winner then they will make final modifications after?

[stray wadi]

We will see🤷

[tawny lion]

What's happening over here, any news on who's winning yet?

[stray wadi]

Not sure if you saw but up above theres a top 10

[shut meteor]

Top 10

Thanks conformational

[stray wadi]

44/46 people that rated my level liked it, which is like a 95% joy rating 💪

[shut meteor]

The spam dislike bot on my desktop:

[random maple]

I'm hoping for the best😁😁😁😁

[stray wadi]

The tutorial purge hath begun

[rich citrus]

i made it to top 10 so im happy

[crude glade]

Scared bro

I wish everyone luck…

[random maple]

Sameeee

Geheydjtjr

[crude glade]

Ok since I’m gonna sleep, when I wake up I’m either gonna be met with some disappointing news or good news

Who knows

[keen canopy]

Good luck everyone and I wish you all the best

[crystal swallow]

Top 5:
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2bckx8xvzyf3bplkkdcvk:1693321549
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2aqk2f39o44nxz0yixbas:1693357996
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2aejscunjtm5ktmn0lh0w:1693876855
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29t798uon2urbra1f8w2q:1693775768
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29rkswgx13q8mej7mxdg6:1693432460

[vocal dagger]

ohhhh

[rich citrus]

YEA

[crude glade]

OH MY

[stray wadi]

Raaggh💪

[crude glade]

I am very scared

[vocal dagger]

really like wps, cats, and afts

very good ones

[crude glade]

Thank yous

I hope slin will give us time to improve it

[vocal dagger]

out of all of them tho still think thats cats will win

[crude glade]

Like a day or two

[crude glade]

Yes

[stray wadi]

They are all good xd just give the new player a random tutorial out of the five 💪

[vocal dagger]

lol

[crude glade]

Blackcat for the win 🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪

[vocal dagger]

would be cool

[vocal dagger]

fr

[keen canopy]

Got the right mindset

Humbility

[rich citrus]

to the end and back I wish you all the best of luck

[crude glade]

Just beg slin to give us a couple days to perfect them 😔

[keen canopy]

Ain’t it “to the moon and back”?

[stray wadi]

So, we still cant edit anything right?

[willow granite]

hello convrist

[stray wadi]

Isnt convrist just slins alt acount

[willow granite]

its been a while

we don’t know

[rich citrus]

Convrist was the first grab bit

[crude glade]

It might be the fact I’m on the verge of falling asleep but

Why is no one making sense

[stray wadi]

I really like the look of wpbrotherly and index tutorial but it looks kinda hard

Especially walking on those narrow platform things at the beginning

[vocal dagger]

ye

[crude glade]

Honestly man you don’t even need to jump on those

You can literally walk on them

[crystal swallow]

it's down to two

[mortal shadow]

[stray wadi]

[crude glade]

[mortal shadow]

(shocked I was there)

[stray wadi]

🙏

[crude glade]

Alright guys my time has come…

It’s aft and black cat

[rich citrus]

which two?

you dont know that

[crystal swallow]

https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=2aejscunjtm5ktmn0lh0w:1693876855
https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29t798uon2urbra1f8w2q:1693775768

[crude glade]

GAWD DAMN

[stray wadi]

RAAAAAGGH

[rich citrus]

mann

[crude glade]

YES BLACKCAT

I AM UTTERLY SHATTERED FROM THAT BUT YES BLACK CAT

[vocal dagger]

raaaaahh

this gonna be insane

[stray wadi]

I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE

[crystal swallow]

wp has great signs but way too many of them in the same places + overal too hard

[crude glade]

We could’ve gotten a day to improve 😔

[vocal dagger]

lol

[crystal swallow]

afts was good but tbh a little plain overall, it got more boring than others after playing it for the 10th time

[rich citrus]

in the end, I'm going for blackcat

[stray wadi]

slin should make a runner up tutorial section in best of grab, because the top 5 are all mad good

[vocal dagger]

yea

[crude glade]

Takes a lot of weight off my chest though man this put a bunch of stress on me

[icy kraken]

Didn’t make top five

[vocal dagger]

we need more easy levels for when players start playing levels

[crude glade]

Top 5 should stay in best of grab

[stray wadi]

Nah fr when this is over ima sleep peacefully 💀

[crystal swallow]

sorry, you made it 6th basically

[icy kraken]

Damn

[vocal dagger]

the tutorial helps but just joining random lobbies isnt gonna help much

[crystal swallow]

it was the last one to be cut 😄

[crude glade]

It was a fun ride yall

[civic bear]

its the final count down

[vocal dagger]

we need a drumroll lol

[crystal swallow]

the castle one I think is pretty much on point IF the big jump gap is made much smaller and the breaking block section is removed

[crude glade]

Are you gonna decide who’s gonna win now?

[crystal swallow]

I also still got some issues with black cats

[crude glade]

Oh no

[icy kraken]

I guess it’s time to super buff my tutorial

[vocal dagger]

every tutorial isnt perfect

[icy kraken]

The only problem with the castle one is it doesn’t feel very grab

[crude glade]

Slin was my tutorial third???

[vocal dagger]

no fat index

[crystal swallow]

yes

[icy kraken]

That’s the best way I can describe how I feel about it

[crude glade]

YES

GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

THANK YOU

[crystal swallow]

aft was 4th

[stray wadi]

What are the issues?

[vocal dagger]

we should annouce the tutorial soon

the anticipation is killing me

[icy kraken]

Anyways, I’m going to bed, so good job for the people who worked on these maps

[rich citrus]

yea.

[crystal swallow]

I'll work through them with you if you win

it's mostly going to be tweaking texts

[stray wadi]

ah

[crude glade]

Bro if I actually listened to people more then my tutorial would’ve gotten further

Everyone told me it’s too hard…

[crystal swallow]

a lot of people are saying the slide is too long now, but I am not sure that I agree with them

nobody yet

[stray wadi]

My slide?

[shut meteor]

2 left

[crude glade]

Yeah we waiting

[crystal swallow]

yes

[vocal dagger]

i feel like the new players would enjoy the ice a lot

[crude glade]

Index we got top 3 atleast🔥🔥🔥

[crystal swallow]

in my opinion it's fine, just needs the beginning of the slide to be a little smoother

[vocal dagger]

seeing the amount of slide maps

nooo.....

[crude glade]

It’s one am I gotta know who’s winning

[shut meteor]

What if you put the final 2 to a vote 😳

[rich citrus]

well, it was an honor

[vocal dagger]

no

[civic bear]

yes

[stray wadi]

Voting is cringe

[vocal dagger]

it shouldnt cuz i said so

[crystal swallow]

I agree, which is why part of the rules was to focus a bit on the ice part

[crude glade]

Agreed

[crystal swallow]

which many didn't actually do

anyway, my current plan is to setup a lobby

that tells new players to join

and watch them a bit 😄

[vocal dagger]

of course once new players had like a month of experience they will probably find out the skill they are good at

[shut meteor]

100 player lobby

[rich citrus]

slin watching children

[vocal dagger]

but it could take longer

[crystal swallow]

not possible anymore

16 players is max now

[vocal dagger]

thats this server

[crude glade]

I say we celebrate whoever wins by a grand feast

[civic bear]

i want 16

player lobbies

[shut meteor]

I noticed.. meanie

[vocal dagger]

modder

[crystal swallow]

it's a limit by the new voice chat

[shut meteor]

Ah

[mortal shadow]

Rip

[shut meteor]

Rip

[crude glade]

Ok I need sleep so I won’t know who won until tommorow

Cya guys

[vocal dagger]

bye

[civic bear]

bye

[shut meteor]

50 player lobbies were so fun

[crude glade]

It’s been a fun one🔥🔥🔥

[stray wadi]

We are all acting like grab is being shut down or something xd

[molten brook]

Wait what place did I get

[crude glade]

lmao

[vocal dagger]

you were in top 10 i think

[shut meteor]

Top 5 was it?

[vocal dagger]

idk tho

[molten brook]

I got top five but idk

[shut meteor]

5th

Cos if aft was 4 and me and would were 3

[vocal dagger]

brb

[molten brook]

Ok that's good

[stray wadi]

I think my big issue with the castle one is the ice parts kinda short and its not as visually appealing

[molten brook]

This was a really good competition 👏

[stray wadi]

Grab campaign competition next💯

[civic bear]

its sad to see it come to an end see yay in the smogsboarg one

[rich citrus]

YEAS

[vocal dagger]

nah we need to hold elections

[crystal swallow]

I kinda like how clean it looks

[tawny lion]

I feel like that should be a community project like the lobbies if anything

[vocal dagger]

hasnt convrist been president for a while

[stray wadi]

It would honestly be kind of epic for slin to include special characters/animation stuff in a bonafide grab campaign

[vocal dagger]

yea

[tawny lion]

Grabworks

Grablab

[rich citrus]

Yea

[crystal swallow]

no, but, thoughts on animations only for the halloween lobby?

[stray wadi]

I feel like i could crisp up my walls a little bit more, especially on the ice part

[vocal dagger]

going to build grab news studio bye

[frozen sedge]

NNNNOOOOO

[rich citrus]

Is Halloween lobby being worked on?

Damn

Bro did him dirty

[crystal swallow]

I am saying, release all but the tools to actually make them

[frozen sedge]

errrmmm skeleton popping out of the pumpkin? yes pleaase

[rich citrus]

Blinking pumpkin lights

[shut meteor]

Yes, please I keep saying this, just do it please please do it you gotta do it please just release it, please yes

[vocal dagger]

i would want the full animations update rather than just the lobby

[molten brook]

Please

[crystal swallow]

yeah, but I can't have people make levels with them without any control over it

[vocal dagger]

even if that means even longer

[stray wadi]

Make spooky amusement park rides, like a meri go round or something

[crystal swallow]

if levels are tester only, I at least know who needs temp bans if things escalate

[vocal dagger]

makes sense

i see your point now

[stray wadi]

Maybe animations could be gifted, like the verified creator title but different

[crystal swallow]

animations will definitely be public, it's just a matter of fixing bugs first

too many things that don't work well if the level isn't built exactly right

[vocal dagger]

that sucks

glad to hear more about animations tho

[shut meteor]

What if (to feed the eager public view) you let testers post some animated maps to a curated list

[frozen sedge]

nah that's just developing

[vocal dagger]

most of the time unless youre tester you wont know anything

[shut meteor]

But only levels that avoid the bugs

[vocal dagger]

i know but it does kinda suck

can't wait for them tho

[frozen sedge]

most things are worked on months before, it's just that slin released the info REALLY early so we had our expectations up big time

[stray wadi]

Could you theoretically make animation sequences, sense the amount of keyframes is a lot?

Like not just some sort of segment in a level but like a mini movie

[vocal dagger]

yea animations should of been annouced in like summer of this year

or a little earlier

[stray wadi]

I want to make a mortal combat finisher, that would be kind of cool

[vocal dagger]

yea

cant wait to have floating stuff move up and down

[frozen sedge]

I was planning on making an ollie otter animated show

[vocal dagger]

then in 2412 when triggers come out to make B U T T O N

[shut meteor]

You can make anything https://youtu.be/LPZlK5-XwDQ?si=lCo5Bx9q5oxb7Q9n

[stray wadi]

Animations are gunna be game changing, it allows for so much more levels to be made

[vocal dagger]

yea

but i am scared of the levels that will be created from this

also is gonna be a big learning curve with animations

i know how to animate

but its kinda different

based on the sneak peeks that have been given

[stray wadi]

I wonder if theres going to be any moderation on gore and such, because its much more heavy when its in animated form

[vocal dagger]

true

[shut meteor]

It’s actually quite easy, just gets hard to make more complex things with correct timing

[rich citrus]

I’ll have to fix all my 309 different projects to have animations

[vocal dagger]

it just takes me a second

[shut meteor]

There will be. I’m also worried for the nsfw it will create :/

[stray wadi]

Adding a button to set a keyframe would be nice, if its not already a thing

[shut meteor]

It’s keyframes.

[vocal dagger]

isnt that already there?

[shut meteor]

Pretty sure convrist has a video somewhere of the ui

[vocal dagger]

isnt it just an object moving from one place to another place using the shortest path?

[vocal dagger]

yea

thats what i saw

[shut meteor]

That’s what keyframes is yea.

[vocal dagger]

mk

alr ima go work on a studio for grab news bye

[stray wadi]

Yeah, being able to be holding the block and then clicking a button on the controller to set the keyframe, like pressing the duplicate button

[vocal dagger]

that would be nice

[shut meteor]

Yeah that’s what it is

Then you can adjust times, speed, etc

[chilly star]

Is there a winner yet?

[rich citrus]

animatuons confirmed october release

[shut meteor]

Nope

[chilly star]

To who

[shut meteor]

It’s between the final 2 maps

[chilly star]

Witch are!?!?!!??!?

[shut meteor]

^

[chilly star]

Omg

I’m in one

[crystal swallow]

alright, I did the lobby thing

it was chaos

[chilly star]

?

[crystal swallow]

and everyone was screaming

I think the screams were a little louder on blackcats level tbh

[chilly star]

Thy were scared

[crystal swallow]

and I got more complaints when switching from that and none the other way around

[chilly star]

So not good

[crystal swallow]

sooo....

[chilly star]

No

Grrrrrrr

Please

[crystal swallow]

I guess we have a winner for now: https://grabvr.quest/levels/viewer/?level=29t798uon2urbra1f8w2q:1693775768

[chilly star]

Jk

Wdym for now?

[civic bear]

Ok to bad i could not get into the las lobby

[crystal swallow]

well, I'll have to work with @stray wadi to make some tweaks before it can be used

[civic bear]

Ok

[crystal swallow]

and then if things end up going terribly I might still come back to another tutorial

[chilly star]

Sad

[crystal swallow]

for now I expect everything to work out though

[civic bear]

ok

[crystal swallow]

and it's honestly been very hard to narrow it down from like the top 15

[shut meteor]

🎉

[crystal swallow]

they were just all great

[shut meteor]

I am very pleased with this outcome

[chilly star]

I wanted to be in the tutorial be for I got verified

[civic bear]

congrats to everyone one who mad to 15

[chilly star]

I am not pleased

Black cat

Sad vc

Empty

[shut meteor]

I have an amazing video (without sound sadly) of a 24 player lobby where I replaced all checkpoints with giant mountains and unrelated everyone is screaming for no reason. Not even words just AAAAAA for fun. Was a great time

[civic bear]

is this compitishion thread geting closed

[crystal swallow]

also I am going to gift everyone that entered a special item, but I haven't really decided what that will be yet, so if anyone has a great idea, please let me know

[shut meteor]

Yoooo

[frozen sedge]

aw man now I'm wishing I was actually dedicated to my tutorial

[chilly star]

Fr

[civic bear]

i think it should be a sined grab t shirt

[shut meteor]

Add badge cosmetics, give grab logo badge

[crystal swallow]

well, a digital in-game item

[chilly star]

Do I get for helping

[civic bear]

a slin sined flag

[chilly star]

I dum nvm

[civic bear]

in cursev

that say tutorial compttider

[crystal swallow]

I will try to also gift it to helpers, yes

[chilly star]

K thanks

[crystal swallow]

it will be a while though

[civic bear]

am i a helper

[crystal swallow]

no, that one will be a new pack

[crystal swallow]

I don't think so? is your name on any of the tutorials?

[civic bear]

no

[frozen sedge]

a checkpoint of an already made model but it has to have that one blue participation ribbon

[crystal swallow]

like I said, I don't know what it will be yet, but open for suggestions

[chilly star]

Drone hat without the drone

[civic bear]

but can i get a bage saying timed out 4 times

[shut meteor]

That was for content creators wasn’t it

Can we get the smorgasbord comp pinned now 🙌

[civic bear]

i realy want a special badge

[crystal swallow]

the drone is not supposed to be a hat btw, but more like a pet that follows you

[civic bear]

or cosmetic

[mortal shadow]

Yes

[chilly star]

Yes

[shut meteor]

[chilly star]

That cool

[shut meteor]

It’s so much cooler now

[crystal swallow]

just got distracted from actually adding it to the game 😄

[civic bear]

can you make a verified hat