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hushed narwhal
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say which python and which python3 and which circup on the command line, what do they say?

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also, create a new Terminal and try the circup command there, if you have not already done so. That will make sure you pick up the new PATH settings.

summer junco
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yes I did both of these things. I have gotten a message to add a directory to PATH, once again, not a clue how to do this. I hope you understand the incredible frustration I have not being able to put a few pieces of code on a board. I would assume with all these smart people someone would have written a script to do that but instead I am banging my head against conflicting directions. I do NOT spend a lot of time on the internet other than to publish my music so running into this stuff makes me crazy. Sorry if I offended you. I had no idea how to navigate messages

hushed narwhal
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ok, your Air is better, let's try that.

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what is the message you got about adding a directory to PATH? DId you get that after installing python via brew

summer junco
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Thanks. No I was trying to do a reinstall of circup on the iMac at the root level. Somewhere in the past weeks I read an article about how to install circup and it had a command that I think is what you meant about a venv:
. esp32-env/bin/activate
bbut I think thats where circup got deposited

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again. Haven't gone near command line for 3 decades

hushed narwhal
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As an aside, the ESP32 Pico is a lot more trouble than, say, an ESP32-S3 board, because it does not have full USB, and cannot present a disk drive. So it's more trouble, and you have to do more work.

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anyway

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so if you do python3 --version, it says 3.13?

summer junco
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Thanks for the tip. I might just go back and order that board. Let go look at the Air, again thanks.

hushed narwhal
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if you do buy an ESP32-S3, get one with 8MB flash for now, but you can ask about that later

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btw, this is an unofficial support mechanism, as opposed to the forums

summer junco
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just did it again, I said he** instead of heck when I said ur easier than the cat guy

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Python 3.13.0 (v3.13.0:60403a5409f, Oct 7 2024, 00:37:40) [Clang 15.0.0 (clang-1500.3.9.4)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

hushed narwhal
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ok do, pip3 uninstall circup, then do pip3 install circup

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to make sure it installs a compatible version

summer junco
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got a message new version of pip is available after i did the circup install

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BTW there are about a dozen ESP32-S# boards

hushed narwhal
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our boards?

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The Arduino-shaped one, Metro ESP32-S3, has the most flash and RAm

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it might be out of stock

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no, it's in stock

summer junco
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yes, I needed small. My project involved a hand mounted unit with as little weight and mass as possible. The battery takes up more than I wnted but I needed it for the WiFi/BLE

hushed narwhal
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does it have to have wifi and BLE?

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or just BLE

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do you need an onboard display?

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which board did you get before? Not an adafruit board, right?

summer junco
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Just Bluetooth. There are half a dozen iPhone/iPad apps that will do what I want. WiFi just is more complex because I have to keep changing the WiFi creds

hushed narwhal
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the Feather boards have a battery connector and built-in battery charging. is that desirable?

summer junco
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Nope, just send streaming data. About 4 samples a second on a 9DoF sensor. The real work gets donein my Excel/Numbers docs

hushed narwhal
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what's an example of an app that receives that data? which 9dof sensor are you using? Why is battery charging not desirable?

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how were you connecting the 9dof to the microcontroller board

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what battery are you using?

summer junco
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Nope was for the WiFi. I bought the charger board thats has the 2 connectors but I would just pull the battery when it needs to be charged

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Adafruit LSM6DSOX + LIS3MDL - Precision 9 DoF IMU - STEMMA QT / Qwiic

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500mAh

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the USB LiIon/LiPoly charger - v1.2

hushed narwhal
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so you can dispense with the charger, and put it all in a box with the 9dof

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does NOT have wifi

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does have regular full USB, will present a CIRCUITPY drive

summer junco
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Adafruit LiIon or LiPoly Charger BFF Add-On for QT Py

hushed narwhal
summer junco
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darn, now yu tell me!!!

hushed narwhal
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includes 9dof on board, includes charger, BLE only

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has gesture sensor has sound sensor and various other things

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so no extra boards needed, just the battery

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we have 3D-printing case designs for this standard Feather size

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that sounds like a great all-in-one solution for you

summer junco
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#%$@%$ you guys are killing me! I should have spent more time researching but I had someone breathing down my neck to get a prototype put together.

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#Dprinting case designs?

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3D

hushed narwhal
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i would say order that, wait, forget about struggling with the Pico ESP32, which you bought elsewhere, right?

summer junco
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Nope, everything was from you guys including a metro mini which I used to develop the sensor code.

hushed narwhal
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which was the Pico ESP32, then? not sure what you mean. QT Py ESP32??

summer junco
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you know you're going to make me go slit my wrists.....

hushed narwhal
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to be experienced, you have to make mistakes

summer junco
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Adafruit QT Py ESP32 Pico - WiFi Dev Board with STEMMA QT - 8MB Flash 2MB PSRAM

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at 75 I've made one or two ๐Ÿ™‚

hushed narwhal
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here is your chance to make new mistakes ๐Ÿ™‚

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i have to be afk for a while

summer junco
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hey, can I get an annoying customer discount????

hushed narwhal
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there are discount codes every wednesday night for Ask an Engineer, and sometimes other sales too

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during other shows

summer junco
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Was gonna buy one today

hushed narwhal
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it's 10% usually

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shipping cutoff is 11am ET

summer junco
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do what you gotta do.I think its time to stop banging my head and order one tomorrow. You realize you are now my goto guy! Again, THANKS for the patience for a grumpy old guy!

hushed narwhal
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we do have so many products

summer junco
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and now someone who gives me realtime answers

hushed narwhal
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you're welcome, btw i am 67, so don't think I'm some whippersnapper

summer junco
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no worries, you can relate the. I really do appreciate the help. I'm gonna stretch my budget and order one tomorrow