Thonny Mu Windows 10 with Creeper | adafruit | Page 1

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:41 PM

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starting

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:41 PM

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ok

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:41 PM

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anyway, so is Thonny started?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:42 PM

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yaa

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:42 PM

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does it say "CircuitPython (generic) COMsomething" in the lower right?

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if not, click there and choose "Configure Interpreter"

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:43 PM

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manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:43 PM

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unless CircuitPython is already listed in the choices

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:43 PM

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manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:44 PM

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what version of CircuitPython did you install?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:44 PM

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manic nimbus what version of CircuitPython did you install?

the latest you guys have...

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:44 PM

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8.0.2?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:44 PM

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ya..

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:44 PM

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manic nimbus 8.0.2?

no , its 8.0.0

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:46 PM

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so if you do Run->Stop/Restart Backend, what happens?

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8.0.0 is ok

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:46 PM

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faint cloud

the same error..

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PROBLEM IN THONNY'S BACK-END: Internal error (serial.serialutil.SerialTimeoutException: Write timeout).
You may need to press "Stop/Restart" or hard-reset your MicroPython device and try again.

See Thonny's backend.log for more info.

Process ended with exit code 0.

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:46 PM

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Is Mu running?

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we want only one thing trying to talk to the device

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:47 PM

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nope , it installing..

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:47 PM

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manic nimbus we want only one thing trying to talk to the device

Ya

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:47 PM

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Is there more than one Thonny running?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:47 PM

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Nope..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:48 PM

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Do you have Cura installed?

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(for 3d printers...)

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:48 PM

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Aaah... Nope

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:48 PM

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it can monopolize the serial ports

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:48 PM

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manic nimbus Do you have Cura installed?

I don't have..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:49 PM

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ok, let's try another terminal program: https://osdn.net/projects/ttssh2/downloads/74780/teraterm-4.106.exe/

Downloading File /74780/teraterm-4.106.exe - Tera Term - OSDN

Free download page for Project Tera Term's teraterm-4.106.exe.Tera Term is Tera Term Pro 2.3 succession version and is being officially recognized by the original author. Tera Term is open sour...

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Close Thonny and install that program

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:50 PM

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ok

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MU in progress.. what to do?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:51 PM

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just leave Mu alone

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:52 PM

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ok

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:52 PM

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it's not trying to get the COM ports yet

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:53 PM

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its gonna take a bit time

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Standard installation?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:54 PM

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Yes

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:55 PM

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installing....

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Completed

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:56 PM

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ok, let's do something simple before you run it. with the board plugged in, go to device manager, choose COM3, right click on it, and choose uninstall. Then unplug the board and plug it back in so it gets a fresh COMx

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may still be COM3

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:57 PM

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ok so lemme do it real quick

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 2:58 PM

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manic nimbus ok, let's do something simple before you run it. with the board plugged in, go t...

done

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 2:59 PM

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ok, start Tera Term. It will start a connection dialogue. See the pic above. CHoose Serial, and then choose the port from the dropdwon

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:00 PM

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then?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:01 PM

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you should see text in the window and be able to type in it. You might need to type ctrl-C if you made a program that loops

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faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:03 PM

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not showing anything..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:03 PM

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does ctrl-C do anything?

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unplug the board and plug it back in, keeping the window open

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:04 PM

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manic nimbus unplug the board and plug it back in, keeping the window open

nope nothing happened..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:06 PM

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ok, let's clean out CIRCUITPY with a hammer. Download flash_nuke.uf2 from here: https://learn.adafruit.com/getting-started-with-raspberry-pi-pico-circuitpython/circuitpython#flash-resetting-uf2-3083182

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That will erase everything. Then download the latest 8.0.2 release: https://downloads.circuitpython.org/bin/raspberry_pi_pico/en_US/adafruit-circuitpython-raspberry_pi_pico-en_US-8.0.2.uf2

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and install it. Then try again. You can close Tera Term for now. Is Mu still installing?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:07 PM

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Oh the Mu is open now.

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:07 PM

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aha, so does it have COM3 in the lower right?

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close Tera Term

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:08 PM

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ok

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so i need to press bootsell and add the flash_nuke?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:08 PM

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no, it's looking good already

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click the Serial button

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:09 PM

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blank as my head...

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:09 PM

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type ctrl-C there

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:10 PM

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nothing happened..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:10 PM

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could you tell me what is in CIRCUITPY\boot_out.txt ?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:10 PM

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ok

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Adafruit CircuitPython 8.0.0 on 2023-02-06; Raspberry Pi Pico with rp2040
Board ID:raspberry_pi_pico
UID:E6605481DB2F8C37

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:11 PM

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Something like this:
Adafruit CircuitPython 8.0.2 on 2023-02-14; Raspberry Pi Pico with rp2040
Board ID:raspberry_pi_pico
UID:E6614C775B998637

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ok go ahead with the nuke and install 8.0.2, but I don't think that is the problem. Something is messed up with your COM ports. Something may be grabbing them.

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:12 PM

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ok lemme do it

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:12 PM

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faint cloud so i need to press bootsell and add the flash_nuke?

???

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:12 PM

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yes, that will replace CircuitPython. Read the directions at that link

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Then download and install 8.0.2

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:14 PM

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Done..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:15 PM

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ok, is the Serial window still non-functional?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:15 PM

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manic nimbus ok, is the Serial window still non-functional?

..... Which one?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:15 PM

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Mu

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:15 PM

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Still blank

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i will be back in 10 mini..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:17 PM

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go to Settings->Apps

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scroll down and click this

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you will see old-style installed programs.

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expand that to show everything and give me a screen shot

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:25 PM

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back..

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:27 PM

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manic nimbus expand that to show everything and give me a screen shot

ok

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i will be waiting here...

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:35 PM

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just guessing but maybe maybe Vixen 3.9 or LUMIX Tether are grabbing serial ports. Something appears to be grabbing the port in some way

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could do a Task Manager list to see what is runing

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do you have another computer you can try to narrow this down to the computer itself?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:36 PM

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manic nimbus do you have another computer you can try to narrow this down to the computer its...

I don't have rn...

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:36 PM

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manic nimbus could do a Task Manager list to see what is runing

how to see?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:37 PM

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do you need Vixen 3.9 or LUMIX Tether now?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:37 PM

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nope..

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:37 PM

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manic nimbus do you need Vixen 3.9 or LUMIX Tether now?

i don't need..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:38 PM

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before we uninstall them, let's look at this:

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give me a screenshot of that

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:39 PM

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Ok

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faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:46 PM

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manic nimbus give me a screenshot of that

this is what i got..^^^^^^

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 3:50 PM

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I don't see anything obviously intent on dealing with serial ports there. But go ahead and uninstall those two things mentioned above and reboot and then try Mu Serial again.

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:50 PM

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ok

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uninstalled..

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 3:55 PM

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manic nimbus I don't see anything obviously intent on dealing with serial ports there. But go...

wdym reboot ( Am new to these things 😅 )

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:00 PM

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reboot windows 🙂

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:00 PM

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shut down and restart?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:00 PM

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yes 🙂

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:00 PM

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see u 30 min later..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:01 PM

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this is why you need an SSD

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😆

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:16 PM

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oh am back , it felt like an eternity..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:17 PM

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ok try Tera Term or Mu again

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:18 PM

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opened Mu

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:18 PM

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btw what CPU is on this laptop?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:19 PM

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i5

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7th gen

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:19 PM

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plenty good enough, being held back by the disk enormously

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:20 PM

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umm...

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|| Still Blank ||

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:23 PM

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If you click on the Gear icon in the lower right, you will get a "Current Log", could you copy all the text in there and put that in a file and upload it here? Use the + sign. YOu can just paste it into Notepad or something.

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:24 PM

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ok

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📎 Current_Logs.txt

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:28 PM

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2023-02-16 21:48:28,374 - mu.logic:756(check_usb) INFO: circuitpython device connected on port: COM3(VID: 0x239A, PID: 0x80F4, manufacturer: 'Microsoft')
2023-02-16 21:48:57,507 - mu.modes.base:112(open) INFO: Connecting to REPL on port: COM3
2023-02-16 21:48:57,632 - mu.modes.base:130(open) INFO: Connected to REPL on port: COM3
2023-02-16 21:48:58,027 - mu.modes.base:510(add_repl) INFO: Started REPL on port: COM3
2023-02-16 21:48:58,027 - mu.modes.base:481(toggle_repl) INFO: Toggle REPL on.

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can you type anything in it? Hit Enter

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:29 PM

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anything?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:29 PM

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like abc Enter

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just type at it

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:30 PM

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in current logs?

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:30 PM

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no, sorry, in the Serial Window

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:30 PM

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ok

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its not showing what i type

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:31 PM

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can you try a different USB port?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:31 PM

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Still nothing

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:31 PM

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are you using a hub?

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usb hub

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:31 PM

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Nope

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directly plugged to lap

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:33 PM

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I am baffled; we have not had similar reports like this. There is something about what's installed on Windows that's preventing this from working, probably, but I am at a loss to say what it is. Could you try the board on a friend's or family member's computer?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:34 PM

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manic nimbus I am baffled; we have not had similar reports like this. There is something abou...

okk..

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i will try another day..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:36 PM

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I am sorry; this is quite mysterious

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you don't have an RPi or similar, do you?

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:37 PM

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nope ... this is the first one i have ever bought..

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 4:37 PM

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good luck, I will ask around a bit

faint cloud Feb 16, 2023, 4:39 PM

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i will give you response the day after tomorrow after checking it any way thanks for your replies and for your support 😄

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BTW this module works if i installed micropython... so i think it might be the issue of the computer

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But a couple of months ago i tried to install circuitpython and it worked both on Mu and thonny.. idk what mysteriously happened to my computer now.....

manic nimbus Feb 16, 2023, 5:54 PM

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you could look in the list of apps and see what was installed since it used to work; that might be a clue. It is quite strange

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it's possible some incorrect driver is being installed, but that is not apparent in Device Manager. That would have been true on Windows 7, but Windows 10 is better.

faint cloud Feb 18, 2023, 5:11 AM

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I got a good news, that is the CircuitPython is working in other computer 😄

faint cloud Feb 18, 2023, 5:27 AM

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WhatsApp_Image_2023-02-18_at_10.38.57_1.jpeg

manic nimbus Feb 18, 2023, 4:13 PM

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OK, clearly then there is something on your machine that is messing up the serial ports, though I'm at a loss to know what it is. I guess you could uninstall things and keep trying. Reboot afterwards to clear any traces of the uninstalled thing(s).

#Thonny Mu Windows 10 with Creeper