2-4 days early all the time - so often that I always subtract 2 days from the ETA
#general-chat
wary herald
tardy badger
I don’t have super tight deadlines so I’m okay with a few extra days
proven olive
Interestingly, I use DHL from where I get PCBs because it's the cheapest AND it's the fastest... and it almost always beats the expected time. My current shipment says it'll be delivered on Thursday but I know it'll be here tomorrow.
USPS is usually right on the money with their expected delivery times for me
tardy badger
Interesting enough is global mail will deliver sooner than my UPS package at the current rate things are progressing
proven olive
FedEx/UPS I haven't had enough shipments with recently to say anything one way or another
tardy badger
Idk why DHL is always the most expensive option for me. It might be that they don’t have as big of a presence in Utah as other places
proven olive
It's all about where it's coming from and going to. USPS stuff for me is generally local-ish and rarely from really far away (AKA other coast).
blissful roost
2-4 days early all the time - so often that I always subtract 2 days from the ET...
So, if it's next day delivery... it arrives yesterday? 😛
proven olive
Idk why DHL is always the most expensive option for me. It might be that they do...
In nearly EVERYWHERE that DHL is offered that I've seen, it's on the more expensive side of things
Except from PCBWay
There's a handful of options from there that are "cheaper" but take about nine times as long and are only like. $5 different
And if I'm already paying $20 for shipping, paying another $5 for having it here two days after completion vs 2 weeks is... yeah, worth it
tardy badger
Yeah, once I have a better way of cushioning shipping costs, I’ll probably stick with what I have. Chip shortage is sort of making it hard to make new products anyway
delicate stream
UPS, USPS, and FedEx are all OK here. I don't see DHL for residential at all here
proven olive
UPS, USPS, and FedEx are all OK here. I don't see DHL for residential at all her...
As far as I'm aware, DHL doesn't do US-to-US deliveries, only international stuff.
I've had deliveries where I could tell it was "Take box off plane, drive straight to house" because there wasn't enough time to do anything else between scans.
delicate stream
(not too well)
Better than not at all, lol
delicate stream
As far as I'm aware, DHL doesn't do US-to-US deliveries, only international stuf...
That would explain it, lol
proven olive
Not many people order international packages
topaz juniper
Doing a retraction test right now, wish me luck 😬
delicate stream
I usually just order from China if not from the US, and I think that's usually China Post then USPS
wary herald
So, if it's next day delivery... it arrives yesterday? 😛
🤣
delicate stream
That would be previous day shipping
wary herald
That would be cool
wary herald
Not many people order international packages
Straight from Guangzhou
⛵
I ordered cameras from https://www.hobbyking.com and it took about a month to get here on DHL
proven olive
yep, standard shipping from China takes... a significant amount of time
topaz juniper
Printin' a benchy, nothin' to do...
wary herald
🙂
wary herald
Printin' a benchy, nothin' to do...
What were you printing before?
I'm printin' up a Nerf gun scope soon
topaz juniper
What were you printing before?
A bed leveling test that I was (mis)using as a babystepping calibration print
wary herald
A bed leveling test that I was (mis)using as a babystepping calibration print
Oh, I see 😆
topaz juniper
ya, lol
Has the Python discord server's logo always spun at 100000 rpm when you hover over it? It's kinda a poor design choice, it makes me dizzy 😆
stray wind
Has the Python discord server's logo always spun at 100000 rpm when you hover ov...
They change it up regularly.
topaz juniper
They change it up regularly.
Better to change it up than to leave it the same forever, I suppose. I prefer Adafruit's occasional changes though
proven olive
Better to change it up than to leave it the same forever, I suppose. I prefer Ad...
On the other hand, there are some companies out there that pretty much haven't ever changed their logos and at this point they'd better not because there's too much momentum behind it
median viper
I just solved an AI problem it took me 30 hours to solve
Using regex scipi numpy and CSR source class
Mac and AC3 mapping algorithms
topaz juniper
I just solved an AI problem it took me 30 hours to solve
That must be fun to take a break from!
median viper
Yeah I had 1 day left until deadline also
topaz juniper
😬
There should really be a youtube music livestream that's called Music to listen to when 3D printing a Benchy
median viper
Like I had gotten it Thursday night I have been hard at work for awhile
topaz juniper
Well, glad your AI struggles are gone for the moment! Personally, I could do with a challenge like that now, with COVID and everything 🙃
median viper
Oh it’s a map coloring problem you have to color each state of the United States a different color
And you have another table of which stste is connected to which state
But all the data is in one file
topaz juniper
Honestly, I don't think I follow, but enjoy some peace and quiet free of Green: 53.0% confidence (my interpretation)
median viper
Lol
jovial path
A periodic table,engineering formulas,math formulas in the back seats of a car would be awesome. I've never seen this before. And photos of great people from STEM.
blissful roost
tardy badger
Excited to be featured on someone’s laptop 🙂
jovial path
If I take out a single transistor in the middle of an Intel processor, will the processor still work?
tardy badger
Assuming you could have tweezers and nm precision, probably not.
Worst you might cause is some bit errors
But more importantly, transistors is more of an abstract or simplified way of looking at microcontrollers. Gates is more appropriate.
I think @late fulcrum has mentioned before that transistors in CPU marketing is kind of misleading
Take a gate out of a processor and you could do probably a bit more damage 🙂
late fulcrum
It depends on the processor too. A 4004 has 2300 transistors, so you'd be removing 0.04% of the transistors. An i9 has 77M transistors, so you'd be removing 0.000001% of its transistors.
If it's something in one of the cores, you might have other cores working (this was the idea behind using only 7 cores in the Cell/BBE CPU)
timber coyote
Hello I’m new here!
jovial path
It depends on the processor too. A 4004 has 2300 transistors, so you'd be remov...
The Intel must have some defense system in case of a single transistor in the middle not work, don't you think?
Like when we use lights in paralell in houses, not in series.
unreal mist
Hello! I’m new here and have enjoyed looking over the site! I use my Pi’s for NOAA satellite reception and satellite image processing.
crystal ore
The Intel must have some defense system in case of a single transistor in the mi...
Sometimes they will have some extra capacity, like putting 9 cores on the die and only letting 8 run, to absorb some manufacturing flaws.
jovial path
I always find these light projects in houses amazing really. This one is LED light. :)
wary herald
If I take out a single transistor in the middle of an Intel processor, will the ...
Probably not
wary herald
Hello! I’m new here and have enjoyed looking over the site! I use my Pi’s for NO...
👋
print("Welcome!") Serial.println(Welcome!)
jovial path
Actually one of the first words that I spoke when I was born was "Tivole" trying to say "Chevrolet".
delicate stream
Excited to be featured on someone’s laptop 🙂
You should put a sticker in with each order XD it was hard to get it off the package without ripping or losing the sticky
tardy badger
I plan on ordering some smaller stickers soon
delicate stream
It cost me about $5 to fill these with switches :0
tardy badger
Oh wow
tardy badger
Ohhhhh
delicate stream
And a display to go with it
tardy badger
😎
delicate stream
And this, which was originally like $35!
tardy badger
🌈
delicate stream
And cheap lead free solder!
delicate stream
Where did you get these?
Micro Center
delicate stream
I wish they were as common as Best Buy
delicate stream
Best toy store!
... I dunno what I planned to do with these breakout things, lol
I also got a HalloWing
proven olive
"I don't know what I'm going to do with this but I'll find a use eventually!" is why I have too many things.
late fulcrum
I don't really know what I'm going to do with stuff I buy either, but I built this over the last couple of days
delicate stream
For the first time in ages, I have batteries with connectors!
I just realized the one solder has gold in it
late fulcrum
Gold is an odd choice for solder, as it can form weird intermetallic crystals. Silver, however, is common (as in my favored 62/36/2 solder).
delicate stream
The stuff I just used is 99.3/0.7 tin/copper, and it doesn't seem to like my soldering iron... not sticking to it
Wait no it's silver, I'm just too sleepy
96.5/3/0.5 tin/silver/copper
tepid mulch
real falcon
hah
real falcon
hey captain kirk hows things in enterprise
jovial path
hey captain kirk hows things in *enterprise*
I am still in about the final of season 1.
They are great.
real falcon
nice lol
jovial path
Better than what I expected.
real falcon
classic or more recent one?
jovial path
classic or more recent one?
All.
real falcon
cool 🙂
jovial path
cool 🙂
In high school I parcially read a René Descarte's book.
Have you ever read any of his books? (In your profile it is writen " I exist... I think")
jovial path
Oh...
real falcon
its from, "I think, therefore I am" which is yeah by him
jovial path
Is it like mocking René Descarte's quote?
real falcon
not mocking, making a joke. basically I doubt my own existance lol
jovial path
Oh I see.
real falcon
it ironically shows that I does since I think
jovial path
it ironically shows that I does since I think
When Rene Descarte was a kid everyone tought he was going to die, because of his healthy, so the teachers felt bad about this and allowed him to miss classes and then Rene Descartes used all of this time studying by himself.
He did not die with time, and everyone got surprized, and also got very surprized that he was a very good student.
real falcon
nice. unusual path of education
jovial path
He created the cartesian graph.
Students in schools and universities all over the world use it basically everyday.
real falcon
Cartesian ?
real falcon
cool 🙂
jovial path
I like Rene Descartes
polar bloom
He lived in my city for a little while.
jovial path
He lived in my city for a little while.
That is incredible. What is the name of the city?
polar bloom
It's Breda in the Netherlands. He joined the army there in the early 1600s.
jovial path
Wow...
polar bloom
It's believed that he got interested in maths while he was there.
jovial path
In South America we do not have this physical relationship to the most fun things we read in history. Too much. (Or even at all)
jovial path
It's believed that he got interested in maths while he was there.
Nice.
polar bloom
Didn't the discovery of the "New World" start in South America?
I think that was a pretty big deal 🙂
jovial path
Didn't the discovery of the "New World" start in South America?
Enn... Actually yes and no.
It was more like Central America the first Cristovão Colombo's travels to America.
And there are some evidences that others non-aborigins came here before him.
dusty citrus
Trade winds.
real falcon
like vikings if i recall right
dusty citrus
`` '
jovial path
I read that was Asiatics.
dusty citrus
the somebody people traveled west to east thru the americas way up north iirc
jovial path
The humans ancestrals traveled Alaska to the south of South America, eating and then moving to other place.
real falcon
yeah there was never any human evolved on americas, humans had to get trip over there
so native americans was there much earlier than any other
jovial path
This book talks about it. Geoffrey Blainey is nice. It goes from very very early history to Nasa in the moon and computers...
dusty citrus
Dorset Culture iirc
Camelids went from east to west towards siberia area
lamas and such
I think there's a camel species that stuck around near the land bridge, very distinct from arab world camelids.
/gobi desert maybe
jovial path
I read it in 9th grade.
Great buy. It is an about 450 pages middle size book it costed about 5-14 dollars here at the time.
tardy badger
yeah there was never any human evolved on americas, humans had to get trip over ...
They actually have some evidence now that puts this into question.
I don’t remember the source but there is a lot of evidence contesting what we know about Native Americans (north, central, and south).
real falcon
in what way? that they cove over in first place?
tardy badger
Well, more based on how and when they got here.
tardy badger
They’ve found evidence that predates that Alaska/Bering Straight ice bridge theories
delicate stream
real falcon
@tardy badger i didnt explictly state how they crossed over. just the fact that they did
tardy badger
I was more responding to the “came to Alaska” part mentioned
dusty citrus
Doesn't really matter .. all knowledge is subject to uncovering of new evidence. ;)
I lived like right next door to the Clovis dig site. ;)
Passed it often on my motorcycle.
delicate stream
Everything's a lie and nothing is real
real falcon
I was more responding to the “came to Alaska” part mentioned
ok but I didnt say anything about alaska either? 🙂
dusty citrus
I made a good case for the opposite conditions, just yesterday.
jovial path
I am so thankfull to be born in this time. Imagine, travelling always down to south, eat moving, fighting against predators, creating fire with dry wood friction,etc...
tardy badger
ok but I didnt say anything about alaska either? 🙂
I didn’t say you did, Kirk mentioned it
jovial path
I am so thankfull to be born in this time. Imagine, travelling always down to s...
Every time to eat have to kill a lion.
No knowledge about nocive fruits. Hard times.
real falcon
ok why i asked is because you quoted me
tardy badger
Anyway, I tend think of the sea faring theories of exploration of early visitors to the Americas.
tardy badger
ok why i asked is because you quoted me
Trying to do 2 birbs one stone
real falcon
lol ok
delicate stream
tardy badger
They have that song on some TikTok videos that’s like “uhh uhhh yeah yeah get it” with a really bouncy beat
That’s what that birb reminds me of lol
jovial path
I am so thankfull to be born in this time. Imagine, travelling always down to s...
It is amazing how we went from this situation to build books,air planes, smartphones, computers, cars,writing...
tardy badger
It’s amazing how fast technology has accelerated societal cycles
It’s also strange to me that we went to the moon but kind of gave up after a few missions
tardy badger
We the US could have been the first country with a moon base
dusty citrus
sit out there on the regolith, in lawn chairs, and watch the Earth.
delicate stream
sit out there on the regolith, in lawn chairs, and watch the Earth.
Or try to jump into space, just don't wanna forget the rope
dusty citrus
Generally speaking planets and moons are actively trying to end your days when you go to visit them.
delicate stream
https://tenor.com/view/how-anthony-mennella-culter35-how-did-you-do-that-how-to-...
tardy badger
But now we sit on our computers and phones squabbling about certain old people with Toupees
Technology has made us both really intelligent as a species but naïve individually
Clarified 🙂
delicate stream
Everyone is old
dusty citrus
lol
tardy badger
Time to finish this French press coffee so I can make my way up the road to the office (yuck)
delicate stream
I wish coffee woke me up
tardy badger
All this time working remote and then getting slapped on a project with no clear direction or objectives that forces me to try and make multiple trips to the office a week
delicate stream
Weeeeeee
tardy badger
I’m trying to do my part to not pollute as much and here I am, polluting away in the worlds largest cereal bowl
Lol
Salt Lake Valley is a massive bowl that traps pollution
delicate stream
Oof....
delicate stream
Heat danger
dusty citrus
goble worming
dusty citrus
take a mad max class at the community college
real falcon
not as bad as last one but yeah
delicate stream
It's like 90F in here
dusty citrus
don't skip the wrist-mounted ____ day.
I run the air conditioner 24/7 in this weather. And use a 30" fan in that room's doorway to distribute it to the rest of the floorplan.
delicate stream
Can't run the AC in here right now... Insufficient breaker capacity
dusty citrus
The ACU will cycle rapidly without that fan - every 6 to 9 minutes. With the fan, runs continuously, due to the increased heat load that the circulating air is providing to it.
I think this one's 1100 Watts and is a 120 VAC window-shaker unit.
10k BTU I didn't go all the way to a 12k BTU unit even though they were similar in cost.
tardy badger
Can't run the AC in here right now... Insufficient breaker capacity
Oof
dusty citrus
12k BTU would constantly cycle .. too much air conditioner for the heat load presented there, most days.
An 8k BTU unit would almost never cycle, even without that fan, most days.
So I would have gone 9k BTU if they made them. ;)
delicate stream
1100W AC, 1200W PC... Click
vagrant sonnet
How the heck is your PC 1.2 kW??? Mine struggles to exceed 200 W of draw.
delicate stream
250W for the CPU, ~475W per GPU
Ezpz
Actually that's the one in the other room, which also couldn't be on at the same time until I upgraded one outlet to 20A
But the one sitting here is like 750W and will trip with the AC still
Well, sometimes... It can spike over 900W sometimes
dire viper
Good morning. Any other Emacs users out there who have gotten Emacs working on Apple silicon?
Have a new-to-me M1 Mac Mini and I'm just getting around to Emacs install, which I've been putting off for no specific reason.
jovial path
I am already driving the car in the streets in a practical driving class. It is a lot of fun.
Me driving. Very relaxing and enjoyable.
delicate stream
I hope you're not holding your phone to record...
jovial path
No, it was a support for smartphone that the car has.
It is built-in.
How am I going to hold a phone fixed like this and make curves like that? Not possible.
delicate stream
I've seen people do it
hasty quarry
I’m a 16 year old and I drink quite a bit of coffee. Sometimes I notice it actually gets me a bit too alert, and I feel things like paranoia and chills. Only like maximum one (caffeinated) cup a day or every other day. Is this harmful to my heart’s health?
Kinda been wondering about that recently
Thing is I don’t exercise as much as I should, so my heart is probably not too happy with being modified in that way
delicate stream
1 cup a day isn't a lot, but you might be highly sensitive to caffeine. I'd talk to your doctor to find out
hasty quarry
Yeah I’ll probably bring that up
One time I had two cups actually, way too close to each other too
And I was in a different plane of existence for a couple of hours
delicate stream
Lol, yeah, you're sensitive
delicate stream
I drink 2 cups a day most days, and can drink as many as 6 vefore starting to feel things
delicate stream
Nice name by the way lmao
Inorite XD
hasty quarry
I drink 2 cups a day most days, and can drink as many as 6 vefore starting to fe...
WHAT?!
HEHH?
Dude…
I’m Colombian
I’m supposed to be immune to coffee
Such a disappointment
delicate stream
I can also drink, like, all of the alcohol
hasty quarry
Ozzy Osbourne
(If you don’t get it, Ozzy is a mutant who can drink bottles upon bottles of alcohol like water, and feel nothing)
delicate stream
It helps to not be human XD
hasty quarry
But like, by mutant I’m not joking, there’s actually a malfunction in his DNA
That makes alcohol like water to him
dusk oracle
delicate stream
Is that a Micro Center flash drive? :O
delicate stream
The purple flash drive plugged into the USB Host shield, lol
vagrant sonnet
Ah yes that doesn’t exactly stand out against the background
delicate stream
lol
wary herald
The purple flash drive plugged into the USB Host shield, lol
I see it now - lol
I mean what else - a couple of Zigbees? Photons?
delicate stream
I couldn't bring myself to mix a Gateron MX Red in with the Kailh MX Reds that came with my MacroPad and I feel strange about that
Am I crazy?
spice moss
Razer just announced they phantom keys
late fulcrum
Not crazy, different feeling keys can really mess with your typing
delicate stream
Phantom keys sound like something I would not like
delicate stream
Ohhh, key caps... that's a different story
jovial path
Not crazy, different feeling keys can really mess with your typing
I am hearing people saying the word "crazy" more than usual here in my city, everywhere I go. Maybe in the future Google will be able to record people words (not phrases for privacy) and make those graphs showing the usage of the word in respect with time. For everyone in the whole world.
delicate stream
Like... nGram?
jovial path
Google has a word history. You can see the usage of the word in every year but I think they get this data from books and articles.
delicate stream
Yeah, there isn't a good way to catalogue spoken language usage without crazy privacy violations/concerns
jovial path
It is in the street! You can not prohibit to record what people say in the street. You are not recording faces.
You can even ignore the caracteristics of your voice and focus on the words.
delicate stream
You can't just record everyone's conversations on the street, there can still be private conversations in public places -- being overheard is different than every sound being recorded
The voice isn't the important part, it's the content [the words]
shadow siren
except the NSA they record everything
delicate stream
except the NSA they record everything
national security
Crazy in writing peaked in 2014
I think it's because "crazy" is kindof becoming a tabboo word in this new age of mental health awareness
thick wind
You can't just record everyone's conversations on the street, there can still be...
In the context of the US, It's technically only illegal to record voices in the context of private conversations. In places where there is generally no expectation of privacy, voice recording is legal. Ethical concerns are a different story...
delicate stream
In the context of the US, It's technically only illegal to record voices in the ...
I think it gets into grey areas -- like, say, you're in a public park, but then you go far away from everyone, and talk quietly to your partner, you're expecting nobody is listening to you. So you have an expectation of privacy in a public place
thick wind
Well, yes. I did say "In places where there is generally no expectation of privacy" because there is a line drawn, even in places that are technically open to the public.
delicate stream
So yeah, you can't just record everything
jovial path
Agreed.
wary herald
jovial path
except the NSA they record everything
You can not say something if you are not completelly sure of it. This is what I wanted to say.
delicate stream
https://tenor.com/view/talk-spongebob-gif-6073234
thick wind
You can not say something if you are not completelly sure of it. This is what I ...
This is less of a serious comment and more of a running gag...
jovial path
This is less of a serious comment and more of a running gag...
My father tells me exactly this, preciselly this.
It is serious and important to me.
tardy badger
I mean, for 13 years the NSA collected phone and text records and listened to conversations of of all Americans
That’s why Snowden is on the run, because he blew the whistle on it
delicate stream
loud encrypted noises
thick wind
It's not literally everything, but definitely more than enough to turn some heads.
delicate stream
tardy badger
It’s also not improbable that the government is still collecting that data
delicate stream
And the Illuminati
tardy badger
Lol
delicate stream
tardy badger
I’m just saying the NSA sort of operates in an extremely grey/gray area due to authorizations like FISA and other legally dubious infrastructure they have.
delicate stream
CIA too
tardy badger
Yeah
So it’s definitely something that should concern people
It should also concern people that private companies also have massive amounts of data mined from us daily
Especially from conversations like text message and non-technology involved conversations.
delicate stream
jovial path
And the Illuminati
Do illuminanti obey their parents?
jovial path
Their own parents?
delicate stream
All
jovial path
Lol
wary herald
https://tenor.com/view/mlg-illuminati-doggo-gif-14326293
So excite
jovial path
Lol
If it is true what you are saying they are absolutelly wrong.
It is like a 3,15,20 years old kid commanding it's 40 years old very experienced own father and mother.
wary herald
oof
jovial path
Their own parents?
@wary herald
This for me is ugly.
But we are all speculating so.
wary herald
I agree
wary herald
Illuminati knows all, sees all, controls all
tardy badger
But we are all speculating so.
I’m not speculating on being watched and surveilled by my own government and private companies
It’s a matter of fact
🙂
And the US government is surveilling billions of people globally
It’s a matter of National security to keep tabs on the world
jovial path
https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-watchingyou-gif-18126667
If Roz did not obeyed her parents, she would not know law, she would not study, she would leave mess whereever she goes, clean herself properlly in the bathroom... etc...
She would not eat with a spoon properlly.
tardy badger
You can’t try to fit your world view into everything.. unfortunately not everyone views the world in such a way
delicate stream
Roz always makes sure to apply copious amounts of sewer slime to her skin in the morning
tardy badger
While she watches you
jovial path
She would not eat with a spoon properlly.
She would not care about what is right.
She would not be Roz.
She would be just a stylish voice.
tardy badger
Plenty of people don’t have good relationships with their parents and live fulfilling lives
jovial path
Saying "I am watching you Wozalsky"
delicate stream
Plenty of people grow up fine without their parents
tardy badger
Yup
Honoring your parents has nothing to do with doing everything they say, because your parents are still human and can lead you astray. It’s about being a good and honorable person. The greatest honor to your parents is living an honorable life regardless of their views or opinions.
delicate stream
Some little have horrible, abusive parents who teach them nothing, but still grow into good, hard working, smart people
tardy badger
It’s showing you can do the right thing regardless of insurmountable odds
jovial path
Honoring your parents has nothing to do with doing everything they say, because ...
In the dictionary honor = obey.
Too.
tardy badger
Honor has many definitions
jovial path
In the dictionary honor = obey.
This one is my favorite. It shines for me.
delicate stream
delicate stream
That's not what that definition means in English
tardy badger
And in the Bible where the “honor thy father and mother” is connotations as to bring honor to or to bring respect to
It doesn’t mean “obey blindly”
delicate stream
I mean, you could call it "obey" in the context of a contract, but that's because a contract is a set of rules and guidelines to follow, so honoring it is obeying those rules, but that's not the same as honoring your parents, very different context
tardy badger
To go further, the Bible even references that parents are not always right and they should be careful in their rearing of children to not stir their children to anger
delicate stream
Mhmm
tardy badger
One of the rare times I can put my Bible college learning to work
All I’m saying is the context you are using isn’t the same. And context matters for meaning.
tardy badger
Sure, you like structure and sequential living. Nothing wrong with that
jovial path
Of the 10 number 5 is my favorite.
It is binary to me.
tardy badger
Unfortunately it isn’t binary to a majority of people
And the law doesn’t see it that way either
delicate stream
Nothing is truly a binary in life
tardy badger
If your parents told you to steal, if you were to “honor=obey” them, the law wouldn’t care if you were “honoring your parents”
delicate stream
Yup, still illegal
tardy badger
They would care that you broke the law
Anyway, beating a dead horse here
In other news! I finally got my reel of sk6812mini
Aka neopixel
🙂
jovial path
If your parents told you to steal, if you were to “honor=obey” them, the law wou...
What parent will tell a kid to put a hand on the fire?
tardy badger
My second reel
delicate stream
What parent will tell a kid to put a hand on the fire?
An abusive one
jovial path
True. :/
jovial path
What I believe is that even the wrong parents will they the kids to be right in the wrong.
If they feed them.
tardy badger
You have an optimistic view of the world
Hold onto that
Good kids can still come from terrible parents. Not because of the terrible parents but in spite of. For them it is not honoring, it is survival
wary herald
We're doomed when we run out of silicon LOL
delicate stream
Generally doomed
tardy badger
Wait we’re in the military now?
I’m this army we have Captain Obvious, Major Pain, and General Observation
jovial path
What I believe is that even the wrong parents will they the kids to be right in ...
They to not send them to the snakes.
jovial path
This is what I mean.
tardy badger
I tend to disagree.. plenty of parents kill their own children.
You see it in the news every day
Not trying to be dark, this is just reality
There are a lot, if not a majority of good and great parents out there.
But not everyone is so stable and cheerie
wary herald
BEATING A DEAD HORSE
tardy badger
I’m trying to fix an installer at work to run on a really expensive simulation server
delicate stream
Suddenly, Lokis
jovial path
Suddenly, Lokis
Is that you?
delicate stream
Lol, no, I ain't that cute
tardy badger
Lol, no, I ain't that cute
Same
delicate stream
If only
jovial path
https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-watchingyou-gif-18126667
This is cute.
This Loki girl is not in Roz's league.
tardy badger
I wish I had a cosplay body
But unfortunately all I have is a dad bod, or rather a Father Figure
blissful roost
I could easily cosplay as Buddha.
tardy badger
Because we’ll.. I am a dad 😛
blissful roost
Both of my kids are tiny balls of fluff. lol
jovial path
Torricelli is my son.
delicate stream
But unfortunately all I have is a dad bod, or rather a Father Figure
Fat Thor cosplay!
tardy badger
Look, I can’t do beautiful Norse god
I’m thinking more “unworthy man turned to stone”
Stones can’t move so I’ll stay home 😂
delicate stream
Lol, you could do a Medusa victim
tardy badger
That’s what I was referencing lol
jovial path
Lol, you could do a Medusa victim
Medusa looks like Wozalsky's girlfriend.
But Wozalky's girlfriend's snakes are great.
delicate stream
wary herald
Both of my kids are tiny balls of fluff. lol
wary herald
Fat Thor cosplay!
Noobmaster69 cosplay?? 😉
delicate stream
Lol
wary herald
😵💫
wary herald
https://tenor.com/view/peterson-farm-bros-dinosaur-truck-atv-gif-8466996
Cue the MrBeast video
jovial path
https://tenor.com/view/trump-eagle-attacks-ouch-metaphor-gif-5948599
This is so properlly, adequate, etc...
delicate stream
Hehe
spice moss
i kinda get how cool those gauges look on this to cosplay as cyberpunk
wary herald
This is so properlly, adequate, etc...
🙂
jovial path
https://tenor.com/view/animals-birds-bald-eagle-eagle-nature-gif-17668745
The circle of life.
My father receive this calendar every year from the "Doctors without Borders" ("Medicins sans flontieres").
They are very nice, they send magazines sometimes, etc...
Pretty nice.
wary herald
How cool
jovial path
My favorites are Charity Water, maybe Bill and Melinda Gates foundation and Save The Children.
But he still does not donate to neither of them.
jovial path
I do not like when this happens. They have others Terminators on AP here in my location, but not this Terminator.
wary herald
I do not like when this happens. They have others Terminators on AP here in my l...
Ever thought about a VPN?
jovial path
I'll see on Netflix again, maybe I typed the wrong name.
wary herald
OK
wooden schooner
what is the environmental impact (interested in both marginal and systemic) of running a tiny discord bot on a tiny $3.50/mo AWS VPS?
wary herald
what is the environmental impact (interested in both marginal and systemic) of r...
Probably very small
Smaller than running it on your own server for sure - I think.....
But don't quote me 😉
wooden schooner
it's definitely smaller than running my own server
terse estuary
Assuming that it is smaller than running your own server I can't imagine it using more than a few hundred watts of electricity at a time, so let's say it uses 200W, then that's 4.8 kWh per day of electricity. From there the environmental impact would depend on where the datacenter sources its power from
I guess you could also add on a little extra power for cooling of the server but that would depend on the proportion of the server power that goes to cooling (and i don't know how it compares to home computers)
wooden schooner
is that 200W attempted to prorate based on what percentage of the physical machine's resources are used by that small VPS?
I guess one would also ideally take into account the resource usage of maintenance / fleet management software that probably runs periodically on each VPS (probably runs more frequently than my discord bot sends messages...)
I think I'm ideally looking for a comparison to something non-computer, e.g. "it contributes as much to global warming as eating 8oz of beef per month, or driving a car 10 miles" or something like that
though in the beef case, there are also quite a lot of confounders / differences between marginal and systemic
wary herald
Probably like driving a car 20-30 miles - so not bad
But then again - I'm not any expert
obtuse harness
what is the environmental impact (interested in both marginal and systemic) of r...
I doubt it will be very much, it will be consuming a very small amount of the total server.
delicate stream
Too many variables. But probably nowhere near 200W even
vagrant sonnet
200W is what my gaming rig pulls when I run folding @ home so both the CPU and GPU are near 100% continuously. A Discord bot is gonna use far, far less. Assuming they're not losing money, that it costs $3.50 a month caps Amazon's power cost at that. I bet it's less, but let's use that as a bound. $0.19 / kWh, at most 18 kWh. Natural gas lists 0.91 lbs CO2/kWh - via https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=74&t=11 - so 18 * 0.91 = 16.38 lbs CO2 when we assume as an upper bound that Amazon is getting everything but power for free, and makes no profit, on that VPS.
The average passenger vehicle emits about 404 grams of CO2 per mile
16.38 lbs / 404 (g / mile) = 18.391 miles upper bound
As another bound, if you were to run it on a Raspberry Pi 4, and doing so maxed out all 4 cores all the time, it'd cost about 154 wH / day * 31 days = ~5 kWh / month. Running that through the same numbers, 5 * 0.91 = ~5 lbs CO2. 5 lbs / 404 (g / mile) = driving 5.6 miles @wooden schooner
Pi consumption via https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/5033/how-much-energy-does-the-raspberry-pi-consume-in-a-day
Datacenter cooling probably about doubles that.
late fulcrum
I'd be curious what the overall efficiency of the various cloud vendors is. I would guess Google would be in the lead.
tardy badger
I'd be curious what the overall efficiency of the various cloud vendors is. I w...
If Apple doled put their server capacity to customers, based on my experience, they would be the most efficient energy wise
Most of their data centers are 100% green during the daytime hours. Unfortunately they require to be powered off the grid during the night
I did do a short stint at an Apple data center in Star Valley/Conover, North Carolina. They had just about 1 square mile of solar for daytime operations.
late fulcrum
I wonder if they've largely abandoned X86 for more efficient CPUs (which would make sense, but wouldn't appeal to a segment of possible customers)
delicate stream
I wish my rigs were only 200W... but that's CPU wattage for me
tardy badger
I know at least from my short time they were still very much using x86 systems but they were getting more involved with Facebooks Open Hardware initiative
Which I learned from a data center tour at a Facebook facility that all their server hardware is open source
And it comes racked, stacked, and configured so all they have to do is roll it into place and plug it in.
Pretty neat. Facebook also has huge goals for renewables in their data center operations. From what I understand they were almost 100% at this one particular location for daytime ops
delicate stream
ARM is working its way into servers, along with other platforms... I have a feeling x86 will be around for a while. A mixed approach is probably what many will go for, 'cuz sometimes you still need that POWAH
So I'mma be doubling my main storage server's capacity :D
Almost
42% increase
late fulcrum
For POWAH, Google is offering PowerPC servers too.
late fulcrum
For an assortment of reasons, it seems to have largely left the console world (aside from Nintendo), but for heavy server use, it's still quite popular. The Power10 architecture was released recently and it's a beast (I think Google's current offerings are Power9).
I'm keeping an eye on MIPS, now that it's open, it might become more popular. Oracle seems to have bought Sun more for Java than Sparc, as they don't seem to be doing much with that architecture, which had previously been one of the major server choices.
tardy badger
MIPS is mixed instruction set processing?
late fulcrum
No, it's pure RISC
delicate stream
What does Nintendo have with PowerPC? I thought the Switch was an ARM based chip
late fulcrum
It could be Nintendo abandoned it after the Wii, I haven't really kept up with the console world.
obtuse harness
I thought PowerPC was dead, lol
I was using a PowerPC server last year for some experimentation I was doing with float128. Definitely not dead, just way less common.
delicate stream
I was using a PowerPC server last year for some experimentation I was doing with...
Evidently. I didn't even know about Power10!
delicate stream
It could be Nintendo abandoned it after the Wii, I haven't really kept up with t...
Wii U was sorta PowerPC -- the Wii was a "real" PowerPC processor, Wii U got a custom one blended with AMD and proprietary Nintendo stuff
Switch is ARM
obtuse harness
So Nintendo made the switch from PowerPC to ARM
tardy badger
Interesting
delicate stream
Switch is Tegra, which is ARM based from Nvidia
charred aspen
I found a new computer I’m going to get! The Ben Eater 8B3C has a whopping 3 bytes of storage and 1 byte of memory!
lol
tardy badger
Lol Ben eater’s 8-bit CPU is a lot of fun
delicate stream
Hehe
I need to watch the rest of his videos
I need MOAR STORAGE! But thankfully I have moar coming
I wonder who in the world has the most personal storage capacity...
delicate stream
Lol, that doesn't count
wooden schooner
thanks @vagrant sonnet for those very illuminating back-of-the-envelope calculations, and all for the discussion
late fulcrum
Wow, that makes my first computer, maxed out with six 6810 128-byte SRAM chips, look like a beast.
delicate stream
lol
wooden schooner
one thing I haven't seen mentioned btw is the possibility of greener energy at night when there is less demand. Does that not apply for data centers because they intentionally put them in places where there is less demand from residential?
vagrant sonnet
They’ll often place themselves by hydro too
late fulcrum
Since data centers have a relatively constant power draw (a LOT of power: about 3% of the total electricity generated in the US), the only way to optimize draw would be to store power during the night and use it during the day, and there aren't a lot of good ways to do so.
There's a lot of bitcoin mining done in Iceland, where there's cheap geothermal power and basically free cooling.
wooden schooner
There's a lot of bitcoin mining done in Iceland, where there's cheap geothermal ...
this sounds like a joke
the cooling is because the country name starts with "ice"?
late fulcrum
Amusingly, that goes back to a clever bit of social engineering done by the Vikings long ago: they named the cold one "Greenland" and the less-cold one "Iceland".
wooden schooner
wait, wouldn't the greenest power be from Greenland?
so what makes cooling free in iceland?
delicate stream
Iceland is warmer, but still cool
wooden schooner
I'm assuming cooler ambient climate doesn't make much of a dent in the temperature of data centers under load...?
delicate stream
Depends on how low ambient is
And volume of air
If you can move a LOT of air, then it very well may
Even if ambient is only a couple degrees cooler
wooden schooner
current ambient temperature of whatever google considers to be the exact point location of Iceland is 58F
ah hm... yeah I hadn't thought of that. If every cooling method ultimately relies on moving hot stuff outside, then I guess a few degrees outside could make a big difference
wooden schooner
honestly I'm kind of surprised that facebook and apple are investing in green data centers. (It's great!)
what's their incentive? is it the conscience of individual execs?
delicate stream
Largely stockholders. Going green can be good in a lot of ways -- at that scale, there's the potential to lower energy costs, and there's no price you can put on the good will from the public if you stop contributing to pollution. Plus it adds stability because you don't need to rely on the grid maintained by someone else so much
wooden schooner
wow, I totally didn't realize that "going green" could come out net positive on a time frame investors are interested in. That's great!
I suppose all the big companies have at least some of their own hardware design, and they have every incentive to make it energy-efficient
didn't realize though that using alternative energy sources could also be net positive
jovial path
From Linus Tech Tips
I like Masques Brownlee and him to give me tips on popular technology products.
delicate stream
MKBHD top notch
delicate stream
didn't realize though that using alternative energy sources could also be net po...
Yeah, things like solar have become cheap enough at scale that it can cost less to buy and operate and maintain a field of solar panels than it is to buy the same amount of energy from the grid. Depends on where and how much, but it's an option now
umbral phoenix
it's not just investors, customers are increasingly putting pressure on companies to do the right things for society
delicate stream
The "good will from the public" is the incentive for investors, they want people to be happy and keep buying product
umbral phoenix
the days of the Friedman Doctrine are numbered
(that a company's greatest responsibility is to increase shareholder returns)
delicate stream
I think it's just shifting from greedily cutting and stealing wherever possible to actually optimized business practices -- good business is good for people
wooden schooner
my sense of general public awareness was that basically the public doesn't know what a data center is, and would either not care or be easy to deceive about how important data center energy cost is.
hopefully that's wrong!
delicate stream
A lot of people probably don't know what a datacenter actually is, but they know it's important and consumes power, and want less of that. Or more responsible power consumption [re:green] at least
Things are becoming more and more transparent in terms of operating costs, energy, etc., so I don't think a company can easily deceive their customers. Plus I think that's kinda illegal?
hasty quarry
(Calculus) Why does a delta squared get ignored as it approaches 0?
I find that just…weird
Like why is it considered negligible, if the value will still exist in any case?
Like it doesn’t matter how small it is, it still exists somehow, right?
crystal ore
Basically, the idea is that if delta gets small, delta squared will get much, much smaller than that. So if the analysis proves that things approach a reasonable limit by looking at only delta, you're pretty much guaranteed that all higher-power terms will "come along for the ride" too.
delicate stream
Maths!
tardy badger
L’hopitals rule is great for proving this out too for certain equations where it isn’t quite obvious
wooden schooner
Like it doesn’t matter how small it is, it still exists somehow, right?
From this line -- to which I'd answer "yes that's true, if you mean what I think you mean" -- it sounds like your question might ultimately be, "What do people even mean by 'approaches'? What's the bottomed-out definition that I can actually make concrete sense of rather than just wave my hands?" And I'd say the answer is something like: There is a whole edifice of mathematical machinery to answer that question. It does a great job, but takes a lot of investment to wrap one's head around, and many people in non-math fields find it a better use of their time to stick with slightly vague statements that don't quite hit the bottom-level definitions.
Mathematicians and theoreticians in mathy fields do also speak in vague terms, but it's usually grounded in a more precise idea of what their vague language means. I.e., they're at what Terry Tao refers to as stage 3 in this blog post https://terrytao.wordpress.com/career-advice/theres-more-to-mathematics-than-rigour-and-proofs/
jovial path
L’hopitals rule is great for proving this out too for certain equations where it...
I like to say his name, in brazillian accent saying L'Hopital's french name is kind of pretty.
Actually french language is so pretty that most of the names in french are beautiful.
jovial path
Mathematicians and theoreticians in mathy fields do also speak in vague terms, b...
It is impressive the amount of e-mails that I received about researchers that made citations to Terence Tao's works on Google Scholar.
Have you ever read any Lior Silberman and Terence Tao research (that they made together)?
wooden schooner
Like analytic number theory papers?
jovial path
Like analytic number theory papers?
Any work that they made together.
late fulcrum
Bringing up an old thread, as I just tripped over a video showing the bell ringer still working after 176 years (video is from 2016, so it has been over 180 years now). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtQGYz4f3YQ
delicate stream
Bringing up an old thread, as I just tripped over a video showing the bell ringe...
On my list of "coolest things ever", very glad Tom covered that. I hope he'll check back in eventually
jovial path
What about a very cheap project to make adults diapers have an humidity sensor to tell when the diapers are wet?
The problem is that the humidity sensor is so rigid.
The size is ok for the microcontroller. It must be protected because or the humidity.
It must be ok for a big and very rich company to make it very unexpensive.
delicate stream
*humidity
There are other sorts of sensors you could use to detect moisture that aren't as big. That type is really only meant for soil
jovial path
*humidity
There are other sorts of sensors you could use to detect moisture tha...
What one do you suggest?
delicate stream
This might be better https://www.adafruit.com/product/4535
But if you're just trying to tell if the person wet themselves, all you need is to have two conductors and the liquid will close the circuit, can probably read directly from analogue pins
There are alarm buzzers for children to help them not wet the bed -- 9V battery, Piezo buzzer, and wires with snaps that go down in that area. When it gets wet, BZZZZZZ
jovial path
But if you're just trying to tell if the person wet themselves, all you need is ...
No because it can be the two.
delicate stream
The two what?
jovial path
The number two.
delicate stream
Oh, well, you can't detect that with a moisture sensor, unless it's... y'know... liquid number 2
jovial path
I do not want to be funny really, I do not like to be funny.
I do not know any other way to say this.
jovial path
But if it's solid waste, a moisture sensor won't detect that
Nothing that get out of our body is 0% humidity
delicate stream
It'll have liquid in it, but particularly for the plant style sensor, it's not enough to be detected -- there has to be liquid water between the legs of the sensor
jovial path
Bet the plant style sensor detects in a solid ground.
delicate stream
Even for something like that HTS221 humidity sensor, being in the presence of waste probably won't be detectable
delicate stream
The sensor has to be in the dirt, you wouldn't want to get it in the number 2
jovial path
The sensor has to be *in* the dirt, you wouldn't want to get it *in* the number ...
Scientifically no difference.
delicate stream
You'd want to have it behind some of the diaper so you can pull it out and put it in a new diaper
jovial path
You'd want to have it behind some of the diaper so you can pull it out and put i...
This is not the whole idea.Cleaning takes time and discipline.
And the diapers are changed everyday.
Sometimes more than 3 times.
delicate stream
Diapers are meant to be disposable, you'd want to be able to quickly move the sensor over -- don't want the poor person sitting there without pants for several minutes while you clean a sensor
jovial path
Diapers are meant to be disposable, you'd want to be able to quickly move the se...
It is a prototype.
jovial path
It must be ok for a big and very rich company to make it very unexpensive.
This is the pourpose. Each diaper with a circuit.
Disposable circuits.
delicate stream
Eventually we might be able to make sensors cheaply enough to be totally disposable, but we're a ways off from that. But not sure how you'd line a diaper to ensure it would make contact with solid waste
proven olive
For detecting solid waste, I'd say the better option would be to go for some sort of stretch detector. Anchor it to the "wasitband" portion of the diaper, and have it get stretched "down" with the added weight of waste.
You could even have it be an external sort of thing - Something that the actual diaper goes inside of. At that point, it's just replace the diaper and put the sensor back on over top of it
jovial path
For detecting *solid* waste, I'd say the better option would be to go for some s...
When you get into the car there is a linear momentum added the sensor could beep.
proven olive
When you get into the car there is a linear momentum added the sensor could beep...
You can account for such things, and it also depends on what type of stretch detector is used, as well.
Long-term stuff is more likely to be waste, while a short-duration thing that returns to "normal" is probably some transient thing like getting into a car or whatever
I'm not saying it's flawless, that's just where I'd start
jovial path
Long-term stuff is more likely to be waste, while a short-duration thing that re...
If my father used a notebook it would beep.
But ok, it is an idea.
delicate stream
Sensors can be hard... But yeah, I just don't think any moisture sensor will work without sticking it into the waste
proven olive
Getting my first stab today
I hope you're not skerr'd of needles
jovial path
Getting my first stab today
I took Pfizer vacine against Covid yesterday.
Both my parents took AstraZeneca. I wanted to take AstraZeneca too. :/
proven olive
I was signed up for J&J for about. A day. And then there was something with it so they took it out of use for a couple of weeks, so I ended up getting Pfizer.
Super pleased with how it went. The only needles I've really interacted with (that I can really remember) are dental ones and those suuuck. This? Nah. Bloop. Done.
tardy badger
Yeah, nice small needle
jovial path
My reactions with Pfizer were so small, less than 4h of reaction(that I remember, I am saying 4h for safety for me it could be less than 2h) after more than 2 minutes after I take the vacine and it was so slight.
proven olive
Same for me, I basically had a sore arm for a couple of days and that was about it.
tardy badger
My reaction to covid last November was incredibly mild
proven olive
My dad felt like crap after getting the moderna one, but some of that was just other things being enhanced. My mom said she had practically no side effects from the J&J one.
tardy badger
I only lost my sense of smell for about 7 days
jovial path
I only lost my sense of smell for about 7 days
Me too!
tardy badger
I was fine other than that. So I imagine my overall vaccine reaction to be very small
jovial path
But for me it was more than 7 days. It was so strange!
Even very strong smells like desinfectant I could not smell anything at all.
tardy badger
It was disappointing being able to taste food and coffee but not be able to smell it
jovial path
It was disappointing being able to taste food and coffee but not be able to smel...
Before university I remember reading a chemistry question telling the history of a brazillian woman that mixed desinfectant, bleach, detergent, and maybe others related for cleaning, but when she did it the different molecules reacted and produced a very strong gas, and after she inalate the gas she lost the sense of smell forever.
tardy badger
Chlorine gas
She’s lucky she survived
Since bleach is Sodium hypochlorite when it reaches with other detergents it can create chlorine gas. Most laundry detergents nowadays don’t contain reactants that would produce chlorine gas
But if you mix pinesol and bleach, that’ll do it.
jovial path
Since bleach is Sodium hypochlorite when it reaches with other detergents it can...
Skeer different chemical reactions produce maybe different chemical elements, chlorine gas may be a nocive one, but there are other combinations of cleaning products that produces nocive gases, this woman mixed a lot of them.
tardy badger
I know this
But the most common reaction by product containing bleach is chlorine gas
This is a well known fact
jovial path
Skeer different chemical reactions produce maybe different chemical elements, ch...
The woman mixed a lot of cleaning products.
tardy badger
Mixing bleach and lye doesn’t produce dangerous gasses
jovial path
We worry about these people here, they are called the people that obey common-sense knowledge
jovial path
We worry about these people here, they are called the people that obey common-se...
Actually I think all ONU's countries(the ones that respect ONU at least) worry about them.
tardy badger
Essentially what would have happened to that woman is she mixed chemicals that caused the bleach to break down into water, salt, and chlorine gas.
jovial path
Non scientific "knowledged" people.
tardy badger
Bleach rarely breaks down differently
And this quality is what makes it a perfect catalyst for making chlorine dioxide
I worked for a company that used 20 degree muriatic acid (HCl) to make chlorine dioxide
tardy badger
Same thing
tardy badger
Muraitic acid is the industrial name for Sodium Hypochlorite
jovial path
Muriatic acid here is chloridic acid.
And it is diferent than bleach's hipochloridic acid.
Muriaric acid is very corrosive.
tardy badger
Yes
jovial path
https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-shy-box-gif-5120735
It is not this, maybe.
tardy badger
Not true, bleach is corrosive in high enough concentration
jovial path
I am telling about chemistry using the woman that was trying to clean the house better's situation
She did not have contact to industrial chemistry's special products
tardy badger
bleach in the US has the corrosive symbol on the bottle for household chlorine bleach. I would assume that means it's corrosive enough in household applications. it might be different overseas so i can't speak to that
i know different countries have different acceptable levels of dilution for household products
i've seen some miraculous things though concerning industrial bleach
one supervisor i worked with held a wad of chem pads on the gashed opening of a vat of bleach that was broken open by a fork lift
he could have easily died
walked away with but a few sores on his hands
jovial path
walked away with but a few sores on his hands
I hope the company paid him compensation.
tardy badger
He got his paycheck and still had a job
jovial path
My family has a lot of friends that received compesations from big companies about these accidents.
Because of the non-profit org my father works for.
It's a non-profit law company
tardy badger
He wasn’t the kind of person to go after companies for stuff so he just moved on
jovial path
He wasn’t the kind of person to go after companies for stuff so he just moved on
I hope he's happy anyways
He lost opportunies to win money.
tardy badger
he's one of the happiest people i know
mostly because he doesn't care much about money
jovial path
Different people different personal's laws.
jovial path
He lost opportunies to win money.
Maybe a lot of opportunities just with this single accident.
wary herald
🤑
jovial path
In Brazil the lawyer would use laws inside CLT to the client(your friend) get his money.
jovial path
The creation of CLT was also influenciated by ONU for sure.
After the end of Second World War.
wary herald
Will Adafruit's Discord be getting the Threads function??
Nothing to do with ONU or CLT 🙂
proven olive
Will Adafruit's Discord be getting the Threads function??
It's likely, but we're still hammering out the specifics on how they're going to be implemented.
wary herald
I see. I figured that it was just a Discord auto-update function.
proven olive
They do introduce some more moderation work, so we're not sure if we're going to allow them for every channel, or for every user.
We're also waiting to ensure that Dynobot (Our auto-mod) works with them.
wary herald
Got it. I saw Dynobot in another channel, so I thought it was pretty cool that you created it 🙂
when I saw the "(Our auto-mod)" thing 😂
proven olive
It would have been cool if we did, but that's not the case.
wary herald
Yeah
jovial path
The creation of CLT was also influenciated by ONU for sure.
My family knows 1 to +3 people who got rich of money doing it (millionaires in the currency of my country). Using CLT laws.
wary herald
Wow. I think the whole suing system in the US is crazy, and that people are too touchy as to what they sue for.
Like I've seen someone get millions for user error driven problems in the workplace - SMH
jovial path
Wow. I think the whole suing system in the US is crazy, and that people are too ...
US is a very right and mercyfull country with workers I believe. Probabilly you have similar laws with similar benefits or even better.
wary herald
US is a very right and mercyfull country with workers I believe. Probabilly you ...
We do
And it is 🙂
tardy badger
Companies spend millions of dollars in the us to criticize and label lawsuits for injury and such.. and frivolous and meaningless. Most of them are well justified
delicate stream
It was disappointing being able to taste food and coffee but not be able to smel...
This is just my life, no smell, only taste
wary herald
I don't get the /tableflip function
delicate stream
They do introduce some more moderation work, so we're not sure if we're going to...
On the note of "not every user", have y'all considered having some sort of role-based control on user actions? Some servers have a level system, so long-term users gain certain privileges
wary herald
Companies spend millions of dollars in the us to criticize and label lawsuits fo...
Yeah, I agree with most of them, but not all of them
delicate stream
Table flip?
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
tardy badger
Oh haha
wary herald
On the note of "not every user", have y'all considered having some sort of role-...
That's what I assumed was meant.
tardy badger
I see haha
solar ridgeBOT
wary herald
The / functions still don't work
wary herald
😡
proven olive
On the note of "not every user", have y'all considered having some sort of role-...
It's never really struck us as being particularly necessary, and does add complexity to moderation in some cases.
delicate stream
It's never really struck us as being particularly necessary, and does add comple...
Mmm, yeah... Moderation hard. This is why I avoid it these days XD
wary herald
🤣
delicate stream
I'm just glad this place seems to be safe
wary herald
I agree wholeheartedly
proven olive
I glad the mods work so tirelessly to get rid of spam and bad actors
I'll let you in on a secret: It's not tirelessly. We do get tired. But that's why I love this moderation team. Any one of us can go "Hey, I'm not up to this right now, can someone handle it?" and it gets handled.
You've also probably noticed that the team is... significantly larger than many other servers' moderation teams. This is part of why.
tardy badger
Oh I know 🙂 I was more or less referring to your resolve to fight crime
wary herald
👍 👍
delicate stream
You've also probably noticed that the team is... significantly larger than many ...
Def one of the biggest mod teams I've seen. I've seen servers with about as many users but with only like, 4 admins and 10 mods total, but I think there's like 2-3 times that here? Lots and lots
proven olive
Def one of the biggest mod teams I've seen. I've seen servers with about as many...
I've seen some of those servers and they're crazy sometimes.
wary herald
I've seen some of those servers and they're *crazy* sometimes.
Oof - yeah
delicate stream
I've seen some of those servers and they're *crazy* sometimes.
Horribly so DX one server I'm on has 55k users, the owner "moderates" [re: causes chaos], 3 admins, 8 mods, and it's just... complete chaos at any given moment. Half the mods don't show up most of the time, abuse is rampant, scams abound, and it's just not great
wary herald
Like the Python server has only 5 admins and 7 mods
proven olive
Horribly so DX one server I'm on has 55k users, the owner "moderates" [re: cause...
Yeah, that's. Not great. At all.
I love that here we have a good community, too. Our moderation team doesn't have to do a lot because you all are pretty good at, well, being pretty good
delicate stream
Some servers try to use mod bots to compensate, but that can end up going horribly wrong and banning innocent people
delicate stream
I love that here we have a good community, too. Our moderation team doesn't have...
Yeah. Plus y'all will gently correct people instead of BANG banhammer when someone does a naughty
wary herald
What's with all the people the server shows as online whose names are like, 0x8040, and [N1GS]Barbatio?
proven olive
Some servers try to use mod bots to compensate, but that can end up going horrib...
Bot mods are really good, but also really terrible sometimes too. Dyno's quite good at catching people trying to get around the filters - when Server Discovery was on, there was quite the creativity of ill-mannered folk. But Dyno also has a tendency to go "This is repetitive and therefor spam!" when it's just a code snippet.
wary herald
Bot mods are really good, but also really terrible sometimes too. Dyno's quite g...
That happened to me one time
proven olive
What's with all the people the server shows as online whose names are like, 0x80...
People can set their names to whatever. There's so many people that just "lurk", and they're just fine.
proven olive
That happened to me one time
It's why Dyno doesn't ban people, only mutes. It's a lot easier to undo a mute.
delicate stream
Bot mods are really good, but also really terrible sometimes too. Dyno's quite g...
Some servers they'll have like 12 different mod bots and you could get caught up with like 4 of them hitting you for a thing, then telling a 5th bot you have 5 offenses, and then you get banned... bad systems
wary herald
People can set their names to whatever. There's *so many* people that just "lurk...
I've just never seen any messages from those people, and a third of them are just hexadecimal codes
tardy badger
I remember the days of IRC servers
proven olive
I've just never seen *any* messages from those people, and a third of them are j...
They don't cause problems so honestly I'm not bothered.
proven olive
I remember the days of IRC servers
Ahhh, IRC
wary herald
They don't cause problems so honestly I'm not bothered.
I agree
tardy badger
I used to code up chat bots with games and whatnot
Like Texas Hold’em, a game of life, battle ship
Fun quote generators
wary herald
🙂
delicate stream
I've just never seen *any* messages from those people, and a third of them are j...
Lurkers gonna lurk.... They're far more common on art-themed servers -- people literally just join to look at art, and never ever talk to anyone
delicate stream
I remember the days of IRC servers
Discord is IRC+
wary herald
Circuit sculptures = art 🙂
wary herald
Discord is IRC+
IRC++
tardy badger
I lurked for like my first couple weeks here
wary herald
Dinner time! See ya
wary herald
LOL
wary herald
I lurked for like my first couple weeks here
Me too
proven olive
I lurked for like my first couple weeks here
I lurked. And made puns.
late fulcrum
Tinkering with a Bluefruit board, I connected to it from the app, it detected that the firmware was out of date (0.6.7 of Sep 17, 2015) and updated it over the air, neat!
wooden schooner
I lurked. And made puns.
I still lurk
static flare
Yes, yes I did
I remember that, I think!
wary herald
I lurked. And made puns.
That's the best part
I don't even remember why I came - I think it was for a Deep Dive 🤿
I've been here since March 31st and before - it was for a Deep Dive or Ask an Engineer - I think it was AAE, though
median viper
Yeah I like hanging out here
I just got my prepositional logic working in 5 hours much better
jovial path
Does anyone here knows an electrical/electronics engineering fair like CES.
But for engineers.
CES are more like aimed to the population.
Actually I know there are a lot, but I know only small ones.
late fulcrum
I just got my prepositional logic working in 5 hours much better
What kind of prepositional logic? Are you building a language parser that handles prepositional phrases?
delicate stream
What's a preposition again?
spice moss
that is like those operation rooms
delicate stream
Ha, that's the other room with 6 monitors
wooden schooner
What kind of prepositional logic? Are you building a language parser that handl...
most production-ready engines disable prepositions, too vulnerable to garden path attacks
wooden schooner
I'm well organized right
what's that flat wooden slab you have under all your equipment?
delicate stream
My desk XD
median viper
What kind of prepositional logic? Are you building a language parser that handl...
I might be saying the wrong word I been up all night it’s tthe horn clause logic as oppose to predicate logic
jovial path
Home "office"
If my mother saw this, someone would be in real trouble because of the organization. (No she would not make any trouble with you because you do not have to obey her laws or my father's laws.)
delicate stream
Lol, I make my own rules around here
delicate stream
Uhhhhh... Discord, are you high? I don't use a screen reader
crystal ore
Don't worry, it's probably just some malware using the screen-reader interface to scrape all your data. 😉
delicate stream
Don't worry, it's probably just some malware using the screen-reader interface t...
jovial path
I am sending so many e-mails on my holidays.
Actually it feels I am not in a holiday.
(Charles Chaplin above for the ones that do not know him)
delicate stream
Ah crap... I downloaded and printed a PyBadge case, but didn't realize it needed screws
late fulcrum
Print some screws?
delicate stream
I don't think that'll work, they're smol
late fulcrum
If you're looking to buy smol screws, I get mine from RTL Fasteners or Bolt Depot.
delicate stream
I might be able to just glue it shut...
late fulcrum
Probably quicker than waiting for parts to show up.
delicate stream
Yeah XD
jovial path
I am sending so many e-mails on my holidays.
If I keep doing this I'll have a study slump for sure it is worst than put the hands on fire.( it is an analogy, you should never play with fire, specially if you are a kid reading this)
I studied everyday during the semester, even on sundays.
delicate stream
Probably quicker than waiting for parts to show up.
Actually I didn't feel like finding glue so I set my hotend on my printer to 170 and used it to weld it shut, lol
... Actually, I am dumb, glue was right here
Oh well
Decided to forego the button stuff
Also, this has been going with 28 NeoPixels and the OLED for like... 14-16 hours? I'm impressed for an old 2200mAh cell
blissful roost
@delicate stream Purely on looks, I'll stick with this...
delicate stream
That doesn't look like a PyBadge 🤔
blissful roost
ODroid Go-Advance.
delicate stream
Interesting
delicate stream
Oof
blissful roost
Lol
delicate stream
At least it's free 😄
Free only counts if you can get it at all XD
proven olive
Free only counts if you can get it at all XD
Nothing is free!
In this case, you pay $0, and you get nothing!
delicate stream
lol
dusty citrus
My soldering course tomorrow is "free" but the real cost is 7$ to take the bus
vs if I didn't go
Also I have to clean my space after use
wooden schooner
It's the participle of participle
delicate stream
I have never seen obsolete used as a verb before...
Same
terse estuary
Ah, it's been a minute since I've rigorously studied grammar. I read a lot more when I was younger so I can generally tell when things are grammatically incorrect but I rarely could tell you exactly why
Although it still seems like obsoleted is almost never used from what i've seen
wooden schooner
Mostly joking. One of the participles is in Latin
delicate stream
I know how to grammar, but I can't explain it
wooden schooner
(presumably obsolete came to English as an adjective, regardless of its Latin origin. I am a silly word nerd)
delicate stream
All words are made up and nothing mattters
sick marten
hey guys, do you think the macropad would provide a beginner a good entry into coding?
stray wind
@sick marten It's a great little board, but it's a very specific use-case. The Circuit Playground Express or Circuit Playground Bluefruit offers a far better beginner experience, much more extensible.
delicate stream
You might want to get a CircuitPlayground Express -- it has a bunch of built-in sensors that you can play with without having wires or anything
And kattni beat me XD
sick marten
I'll definitely check it out, I've had my eye on the macropad because i feel it's something I could use and integrate into my setup, but if the circuit playground express would help me learn code more then i may have to purchase both
stray wind
I'll definitely check it out, I've had my eye on the macropad because i feel it'...
Oh! If you have a use in mind for it, MacroPad is a great place to start. The CPX has far more options for getting to know electronics and programming in general though.
But if you can afford both, I recommend getting a CPX for sure.
sick marten
yeah may have to do that and grab em both in one go since shipping is kinda costly
are there any kits or addons that give the CPX practical uses?
delicate stream
I like buying all the things at one time
stray wind
CPX comes free with... a 200$ order, I think? That's another thing to consider if you end up with enough stuff in mind for an order.
stray wind
are there any kits or addons that give the CPX practical uses?
Hmm. Good question. It really depends on what you have in mind as "practical uses". There are things that work with it, but on some level, it has a lot built in. There are definitely practical projects that use it, but for beginner purposes, it's meant to stand alone. Check out learn.adafruit.com and search for Circuit Playground Express to get some project ideas, and the guides will have hardware listed.
sick marten
oh okay, awesome, i'm gonna grab both of those for now and then see where it takes me 🙂
thanks so much for the help!
stray wind
Make sure you get the Express, not the "Classic". Classic is far less capable.
sick marten
the soil moisture thing is cool, maybe i can stop killing succulents 🙂
stray wind
Yeah! A simple project but a really great one!
thick wind
CPX comes free with... a 200$ order, I think? That's another thing to consider i...
Wish I had that type of disposable income left this month...
delicate stream
CPX comes free with... a 200$ order, I think? That's another thing to consider i...
$200 is free shipping, $299 is a CP Express
stray wind
Wish I had that type of disposable income left this month...
Ugh yeah, I understand that entirely. It's a lot.
stray wind
$200 is free shipping, $299 is a CP Express
Ah thanks for the correction. Oops.
jovial path
I recognized today that people with less money than me can be way more educated than me, more polite, more creative, more usefull to the society and the whole world, etc...
Nice discovery.
sick marten
😦
dusty citrus
I discovered today if I had 10MW of power I could run a Duga-like radar for the lulz
And be heard accross the world 😄
Even on other worlds
jovial path
My father told me 10 years ago to not look at the neighboors with the telescope.
stray wind
@sick marten Apologies for the incorrect info on order amounts. Doctor posted the correct situation.
dusty citrus
My father told me 10 years ago to not look at the neighboors with the telescope.
Still better than looking at neighbors with a scope
delicate stream
Ah thanks for the correction. Oops.
Expensive addiction is expensive
jovial path
I recognized today that people with less money than me can be way more educated ...
A lot of people.
sick marten
got into keebs over pandemic, now getting into this, i will never financially recover
late fulcrum
Got into scopes over pandemic, now I have a pile of restored but obsolete scopes. I don't use them to look at the neighbors, however.
delicate stream
Got into scopes over pandemic, now I have a pile of restored but obsolete scopes...
I would be simultaneously impressed and disgusted if you managed that
median viper
I just got a 1/2 gallon of southern sweet tea