@tiny moat
Some RFI strategies involve creation of resonant 'traps' -- though I think they work better at the transmit end; so are useful to tone down RFI emitted by a nearby appliance not meant to radiate at a significant amplitude. A vacuum-tube based television receiver being the classic example of an unintentional radiator of RF -- often the victim of RFI from nearby emitters, as well.
#general-chat
dusty citrus
468 / 90.9 MHz = 5.1485 feet at 1/2 wavelength for a dipole antenna resonant enough to transmit significant energy. That's 157 cm.
Compare at 98 cm (~1 meter) for the 145 MHz ham 2-meter repeater sub-band.
covert spire
@soft thicket You wouldn’t happen to have instructables on that? I know someone that does run around in one without a fan
They went outside in 40 degrees f & was still burning up
Fortunately has camel pack now
soft thicket
I dont have any instructable for it. there is someone out there called Matrices that has one but the way she does it and the stuff she uses arent really the best
covert spire
I asked you because last one I seen wasn’t done with best either, & it’s for Special Olympics which has a lot of people sensitive to sound, so a loud fan can bother them
soft thicket
yeah. you cant really hear it unless you get right up next to it and even still it just sounds like a faint hum
covert spire
Yea, last one I saw, they used similar to computer fan just smaller to create a circulation inside a cosplay helmet, which at a Con, no one would notice in the least, especially since they did use external voice chat box, so chatting audio was resolved, but as much as one of those things weigh, adding all of that would be too excessive in weight, also Storm Trooper & Polar Bear are slightly different characters
soft thicket
the fans i use are small 40mm x 40mm x 28mm. they are for 1u servers originally and i repurposed them for inside fursuits
covert spire
So, essentially you can put one in each ear to exhaust up?
soft thicket
you can, yes. In my own head i just have one fan in the mouth that brings cool air into the head. My friend also does that but im gonna be making him a setup for his head soon that will add 2 more fans into it, one for each ear like you said.
covert spire
Yea, I was wondering how to make it cool enough not only make it tolerable, but when they’re out in really hot conditions
South East isn’t known to be cool during summer
soft thicket
yeah that would be good for hotter conditions.
Where at in the South East may i ask?
covert spire
North Carolina
soft thicket
heh. youre joking? I live just north of Charlotte
covert spire
I’m due east of ya
soft thicket
Thats Awesome!!!!
covert spire
covert spire
I’ll see when I can get hold of them
dusty citrus
I always thought that they were just, you know, alive, and that it was impolite to imply otherwise. :)
soft thicket
lol
we try not to "ruin the magic" in public. At least most of us try. but sometimes its either ruin the magic or die. Like in extreme heat
covert spire
120 degrees f is too hot to wear an oven over your body?!?!?
soft thicket
lol yeah. i was out in 90f one day and that was horrific. 100% DONT recommend that while wearing a giant carpet
dusty citrus
Gives a new meaning to Burning Man. :)
soft thicket
lol. I know a couple of suiters that take theirs to Burning Man
dusty citrus
During the first spacewalk, the astronaut had a lot of problems because they hadn't yet engineered a means for him to bend his elbows against the pressure of the suit. So the astronaut's vital signs indicated a tremendous exertion. Also his helmet was fogged and he couldn't see hardly at all.
JP should be on in a bit.
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runic elbow
So my PC can't find the Pi Server.
runic elbow
Pain
tame saddle
well, in like 1996 that would have taken a week...if your 56k modem didn't overheat. 😄
runic elbow
Oh god, that would have been AGONY
patent quiver
I remember the day i discovered download resumers when there was dial up, most amazing thing in the world back then. Because if someone called on the land line, your 'linux distro' you were downloading that had been runnign for 4 days has now been canceled.
dusty citrus
I would stage large downloads on a friend's shell machine and use /usr/bin/split to parcel it out, tracking md5sums on both ends (in text files). Some segments (usually 1 megabyte?) had to be downloaded more than once Resume boundaries were whatever the split size was (1 MB here).
Also, ISP accounts often included a shell account, or you could ask and they'd enable it for you. Circa 1994. That's twenty-four years ago .. ouch!
1994 was approximately the first year you could just plonk down money and establish a relationship (on a money basis) to get onto the Internet, as an ordinary consumer. Prior to that you had to know somebody, or leverage social connections at the local University to get there.
runic elbow
So I finally get to use my laptop as a daily machine. It feels awesome.
Awesome. It can stream Youtube at 1080p perfectly.
dusty citrus
Simpson still's got it goin' on:
https://www.simpsonelectric.com/
https://www.simpsonelectric.com/products/test-equipment/vom-multimeters/260-8-260-8p $270
runic elbow
Am bantoo
restive canopy
I really believe my soulmate is the reincarnation of Ada Lovelace. Only two problems: I don't believe in soulmates, and I don't believe in reincarnation.
shell badge
sad
proven olive
I like to do a bit of writing, and I do enjoy incorporating others. Also, naming things is not my strong point. So, add both together, and you get a Google form asking people to name cities for me: https://goo.gl/forms/XssH5tAHBTJ0EXpE2
Feel free to fill it out as many times as you want (Which includes 0)
dusty citrus
I handed the hardware store guy a washer to match for the diameter of a drill bit. I get home and discover he'd matched the outside diameter of that washer. This drill bit was intended to drill a hole in a front panel to then mount a potentiometer (volume control knob).
The bit he sold me was 7/16" and the pot needs like a .. oh about a 9/32" mounting hole.
I did also buy several other items, including a full set of drill bits up to 3/8" which does have the 9/32" bit I need for the pot.
And I don't own another 7/16" bit, so that's essentially an accidental win.
This is a hand drill I made 30 years ago, with an update (done today!) to bring it up to 3/8" acceptance.
The old drill chuck was 1/4" max, and is shown below the current iteration of this useful tool.
The thread stock is 3/8 "- 24 and is apparently standard for mounting a drill chuck of this size.
Oddly enough the Lutz file handle has a thread matching this size; 30 years ago I noticed this and put two and two together, and created this tool.
I've never seen another one like it (but I don't get out much). I did however ride my bicycle about a mile to that hardware store, today. They were nice people. Lot of people out today, with the good weather!
hollow oasis
Got some magic smoke from my new Tiva Launchpad. I connected a 12V motor supply to the VM pin on a motor controller, not knowing that the VIN and VM pin were connected. The VIN was connected to the 3.3V line on the Launchpad.
Smoke.
dusty citrus
@jaunty jetty
Just so as to not snatch ongoing stuff in #general-tech. Interested in your comments here.
jaunty jetty
you probably need an expert but I would expect that given you've linked the grounds to eachother, and that they're identical devices, this shouldn't be hazardous
dusty citrus
They're powered by separate laptop computers via USB. So two PSU's.
dusty citrus
I measure about 2.7V on either Vcc when the other unit is unpowered. Trinket M0 blinks the 'are you crazy' pattern, when it is the unplugged (unpowered) unit.
jaunty jetty
then I may be wrong
dusty citrus
I believe that means it sees radically undervoltaged Vcc.
jaunty jetty
like I said, that's professional grade shenanigans
dusty citrus
Didn't smoke anything but I'm wondering if it's a sane approach. If this were a single PSU project I wouldn't even ask.
thin canopy
Perhaps just removing the USB 5v lead from one of the boards then connecting the boards' USB (5v power) pins together would work.
jaunty jetty
the other guy was dealing with a situation where he may inadvertantly create a route between two unknown dissimilar grounds; it's entirely possible that one of the devices may have been and needed to stay on an isolated power supply while the other was hard grounded, and then there may be an unknowable voltage difference between the ground state in one that is suddenly shorted to a proper ground
as a general rule I'd advise keeping separated things separate, you could probably make do with opto-isolators and just nix the entire issue
dusty citrus
I'm thinking I probably need an isolated bus transceiver pair that talk TX/RX locally, but cover the span (which in this case is about 18 inches!) with an isolated protocol so that no paths exist electrically from one laptop to the other, other than thru 120VAC distribution in the building.
thin canopy
The simplest approach would be to pull the USB 5v pins from both USB cables, then wire them through diodes to power both boards. The higher voltage input would provide the power.
If you're only talking 18 inches, then running the power along with the signal should be okay.
jaunty jetty
laptops helps too
most aptop powersupplies are isolation transformers
so there's no actual ground
spice moss
dusty citrus
@thin canopy This will be a situation where one of the two devices will be frequently unplugged from USB at the laptop, without disconnecting both more or less simultaneously. The good news is that the micro-sized laptop will never be the development environment and will just supply a serial (USB) terminal to watch for print statements out the serial port of the other microcontroller.
@jaunty jetty Maybe that's why I never fried. Both systems are dell laptops!
jaunty jetty
hopefully not, but it is a protection
dusty citrus
Sounds like following both of your advisements in tandem would be a pretty good tradeoff in safety vs convenience. Disconnecting USB +5 on one end may give the extra safety (or ruin everything ahaha).
jaunty jetty
a hazard test could be to find a dozen or two cheap USB power adapters and checking their conductivity between the socket prongs and the USB pins
watching bigclive for a long time; you can never expect too little from those things
dusty citrus
Yeah you said it. @thin canopy any inline 1N4001 would give a diode voltage drop to VUnreg.
My former boss used to tell me to connect the grounds and call it a day, but that was in the context of 9 volt suppying 3.3v LDO regulators, throughout. Big headroom there to add the protection diodes on the positive supply.
He's the one who put me onto the 1N4148 snubbers on all GPIO pins, where the circuit still works with them present, but we never covered this exact situation I diagrammed, above.
Can't ask him. Long time no see.
That might be something! Good economic factor, if it works.
thin canopy
I just built something similar with a PowerBoost 1000C (single battery, USB input from host, USB output to DOT) to isolate power from my laptop to a Trinket M0 and motor controller. Still needed the data to come through from the host USB, but didn't want the motor circuit to load or send power noise back to the laptop.
Didn't have a second USB power input, though, but the power switching diodes should work (in theory).
dusty citrus
I've used the same scheme in another context with good effect. I think I had the philips I2c (bedside, alarm) clock chip with a bfc (capacitor) that I wanted to power the clock with, when Vcc was unpowered. I think the diode's role was to prevent the cap from discharging through other circuitry or something like that (don't remember; was 10 yrs ago).
thin canopy
In this case, the diodes in series with each USB +5 allow the higher-voltage power source to charge the PowerBoost's battery and boost circuitry. If one drops out then the other takes over. If both USB power sources drop out, then the battery takes over.
I also put a 1000uf cap on the PB's 5v out to stabilize the whole thing.
dusty citrus
Thank you for your input! Excellent ideas.
thin canopy
np
dusty citrus
@jaunty jetty thank you very much for looking at this, and the great comments! There's so many possible ways to address this.
spice moss
@thin canopy think if that that ink to the code would be ink to circuit
runic elbow
I have discovered that Blender is gonna be a little difficult to use on a laptop.
ocean dagger
Does anyone need a robot made to make it look like a lot of people have viewed your youtube videos or make the live viewers number grow. Let me know I have a great script and a great server that can do just that.
shell badge
seems suspicious @ocean dagger
ocean dagger
what does
shell badge
you
ocean dagger
No its just a simple selenium script that I use.
stuck moth
@ocean dagger this isn't a place to promote manipulating youtube view counts because its dishonest
ocean dagger
At least I am being honest
I try to be a nice guy but being nice seems to get you run over. Fake news and fake views won the presidency of the united states/
stuck moth
this isn't a place to discuss US politics. we value nice people here so please only be nice here
stuck moth
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runic elbow
I kind of find it funny how I can get a complete computer that's REALLY easy to set up for the price of like, $5 to $35. The greatness that is the Pi.
runic elbow
Something that would have been hundreds, or thousands of dollars back in the day, now for the low price of a chocolate bar and some pop.
jaunty jetty
Woah woah. Pop is expensive now
tiny moat
I think I have steeped up the level of complexity on the systems I am working on a bit.
proven olive
Oooh, fancy
grave crest
Why does this SEM have a de-orbit rocket engine? Unless...
proven olive
SEM actually stands for "Space Exploration Microscope"
dusty citrus
"We found its attitude to be stable in orbit, but we're not quite sure how it is doing that."
tame saddle
If i hadn't read the explanation first, my initial thought would've been "Oh sweet! Original concept art from AKIRA!"
grave crest
The Magic Schoolbus: The Next Generation -- "The Magic SEM". Adam operates under the codename of Mr. Frizzle.
dusty citrus
Stay away from the squishy stuff -- that's the Dalek symbiant.
runic elbow
Don't you just love having RAM you can't use?
spice moss
@dusty citrus in Mass effect Krogans say that Humans are Squishy
dusty citrus
:)
runic elbow
https://www.adafruit.com/product/3410 My god, this is a full PC that I could purchase for the same price for a ticket to the movies with a large bag of popcorn and a large drink.
dusty citrus
That imbalance has a hidden cost.
grave crest
Yeah....one makes your fingers all buttery, yet the other will eventually cost you MUCH more money and time as you begin to tinker around with other things within the hobby.
I'm pretty sure the RPi is the buttery part.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
covert spire
Wait, I’m not only one who gets buttery fingers from RPi?
grave crest
I know, right?
restive canopy
I just did my first Arduino project and am thinking of trying something on the RPi, but have not come up with a good idea yet.
abstract violet
@grave crest startrek discovery went metroid prime 2 and im excited for the new storyline
runic elbow
How to stop your Pi from moving around when it's plugged in. Step one: Get a case for the Pi. Step two: Put velcro with sticky pads on the Pi and a surface of your choice. Boom. That thing ain't going anywhere.
Very effective.
If you're not yanking on anything.
spice moss
grave crest
@abstract violet I can't say I'm familiar with Metroid Prime 2 (I stopped following the franchise after Super Metroid). But it's interesting to see where they'll take it -- though the way they teased plotlines and never came through, I'm not too keen on it. I think Orville is better 'Trek :)
Dropped plots I am still scratching my head about:
The Voq plotline that was just wrapped up.
The USS Defiant explaination from prime universe to the mirror universe.
"Using the mycelial network for personal gain, hence corruption"....so a power source is "personal gain" now?
Why was Michael so essential to Gabriel's plans in the Mirror Universe?
karmic kite
@spice moss The problem is the keys for windows kiosk aren't entirely off the charts. Helps to lock up the keyboard and mouse if access isn't needed
*unlock keys
runic elbow
jaunty jetty
this is why we can't have nice people
runic elbow
It's very effective. A novice will put a blob on top of the CPU, but a master will put it on the back of the motherboard.
jaunty jetty
years and years ago I saw this kinda PBS for late-kids animation explaining how TCP/IP works with packets and routed networking, all fancy 1992 CG animation; and it was pretty good until right at then end when it claimed "And then the packet is stripped of it's payload, reloaded with a new one, and sent out again"
runic elbow
Oh my
jaunty jetty
imagine the packet as a sort of giant liquigel pill, pulling into a station along a TRON beam, then a robot arm opens a door, pulls out a 'document', and puts in a new one
runic elbow
Ok
jaunty jetty
this is not how reality
runic elbow
Alright.
jaunty jetty
at least your animator went the extra mile to animate the paste spreading
runic elbow
The TRUE master puts it in the RAM slots and jams the CPU into the PCI slot.
VERY effective at cooling.
jaunty jetty
the true master watercools his chipset and puts the radiator in a fridge
proven olive
TRUE masters put it in a liquid water bath
jaunty jetty
the trueyiest master puts the CPU in their mouth, holds the monitor cable in their off hand, and noscopes you with their dominant hand
covert spire
Puriesticy masters of master builds computer on back of tank
blazing pond
I am the computer
jaunty jetty
once, the most best of them all, the reincarnated previous best in the form of a 4 yearold girl with no eyes, arms, legs, or body, calculated the last digit of pi
4
grave crest
@proven olive True masters are able to use water in any state of matter, not just liquid 😛
proven olive
Plasma, too!
grave crest
Captain Plasma.
proven olive
Plasma water just sounds weird.
grave crest
It's refreshing! Until it strips the atoms of your cells apart.
proven olive
Fun fact: Ultra-purified water can kill you.
It leeches all the minerals and stuff right out of your body.
jaunty jetty
I'm pretty sure you can't have molecules in a plasma unless they're like, fluorides
so water plasma would be a charged cloud of hydrogen and oxygen, which would rapidly become an explosion
grave crest
So that's how they make taco bell.
runic elbow
Is this overkill for a laptop set up? Maybe. But who cares? Giant TV. Because why not.
tiny sierra
runic elbow
I never had a computer that was capable of this until I got this laptop.
And my god, I wish I had sooner.
runic elbow
I just gave myself heartattack by dropping my laptop.
Maybe an Xbox 360 isn't the most stable platform to leave the computer ontop of.
covert spire
Now I feelz like curling into a corner
runic elbow
Everything's fine. The Xbox is fine, the laptop is fine, and so are all the wires.
runic elbow
I mostly prefer the closest one to me. No matter the brand, as long as it doesn't die in three minutes on me.
covert spire
Oh, this is build lists
runic elbow
Alrighty.
covert spire
runic elbow
Oh my.
runic elbow
I agree: The best cases are free, or reall cheap.
covert spire
Only issue now is I'm trying to get my printer working to make my hard drive bracket
& my 3.5" floppy isn't working because of lack of power cables
covert spire
Which I do need it functional for the SD card slot
runic elbow
You have any other power supplies?
covert spire
Nope
runic elbow
Any cable adapters?
covert spire
I used up all cable ends in it
runic elbow
OK, this might be a bit of a problem, I'd imagine.
covert spire
In order to use it, I'll need a couple of splitters
runic elbow
Oh my
Random idea: I shall search for the highest end of hardware that supports Windows 2000, and I will work on building the most powerful Windows 2000 machine I can.
covert spire
Well, tbh, if you want a cheaty, you can build an OP machine of choice, run Linux, & put VirtualBox on it, running Win 2000 in that
runic elbow
But then some of the power would be going to Linux.
I want EVERYTHING going to the host operating system.
covert spire
Linux is minimal use of power
As long as you don't use a UI version like I do, lulz
But, it is my host OS
runic elbow
I'm terrible at operating systems withough GUIs. Lel. I'm a headless chicken in things like DOS.
covert spire
Oh, then my idea would be useless for ya, lolz
runic elbow
Lel.
OK, I found an issue I have with this dual screen set up. I can't close the laptop screen without the TV going black.
covert spire
Yeap, instead of it functioning as alt screen, it's being essentially a big view of what is on your monitor
Idk fix for that
runic elbow
I've set it to be extended. Although no matter how I set it up, there is no option to allow the TV to be the only monitor that's on.
tiny moat
It certainly is a fun thing to do with a SEM...
grave crest
You could say that @tiny moat gives his endorSEMent.
tiny moat
@proven olive I'm disappointed
covert spire
Now to see when Adam will put his own play button in his microscope
My guess, the silver one should fit
proven olive
@tiny moat I do have to sleep sometime!
runic elbow
I regret making my Pi my storage server. It boots very slowly, and I only have six gigabytes left for regular Pi things.
elfin wave
could you add an external drive?
or partition the card, maybe. I'm mostly just saying words I know right now.
so it boots from one partition and stores files on another
runic elbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O0DeRL7P-w Guys, you're killing me.
fair summit
spice moss
when i see that i see Circuit Playground Chips in the making
runic elbow
Coolio.
jaunty jetty
all I can think watching this, every pringle is created alone, seemingly special
then it gets put on a conveyor with a thousand of it's kind, crushing millions of dreams per hour
and then they get dumped in a pile of billions
cursive pike
@spice moss Hopefully my boards don’t arrive pringle shaped.
spice moss
@cursive pike have you tested those shield inside Pringles can?
cursive pike
@spice moss I have not. That does give me an excuse to buy some pringles. Then I’d have to empty the can... I can live with that. Eat a can of pringles in the name of science.
spice moss
CircuitPlayground Reactor
cursive pike
With the bolts it reminds me vaguely of an ironman chest reactor thingy.
cursive pike
Hmm... with the CP at the end. I like how it would look.
spice moss
you could even then write a tutorial
covert spire
Hmmm
Now I’m more curious about these biscuits
2 reasons
1, to use making as “reason” to eat pringles
2, low budget antenna that seems to have food theme going about it
spice moss
CircuitPython reactor make your Circuit Python more reactive
elfin wave
weee, bought another 8gb of ram and switched from a 125 to 500 gb ssd, and I can play PUBG again!
proven olive
MOAR RAM
spice moss
RAM prices go up thanks to cryptominers
stuck moth
@elfin wave we should set up a tiem to play!
spice moss
@stuck moth have you played Fortnite?
stuck moth
@spice moss no I haven't
spice moss
I have being played a lot and wait for new update as it got delayed as they want better update experience
last time it made server issues
stuck moth
fun! I know lots of people like it
spice moss
the epic face new problems what they kinda need so it also helps UE4 games like PUBG got 100players in the match
I want to play with minigun so badly
stuck moth
😄 soon
elfin wave
@stuck moth yeah! I have duos now too. Should be better in a few ways. Just need to find time (still unpacking after the move)
stuck moth
duos?
stuck moth
oh, awesome!
grave crest
Duos, the new FIOS alternative. FIOS is fiber optic data transfer, DUOS uses two cans on a really long string.
grave crest
But be careful, if you wet the string with some tasty beverages, it may result in jumbled, slurred packets.
polar coral
I hope this is ok to post here, but I just wanted to share this upcoming artist who's making some pretty awesome music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQrEZv9mGyQ
covert spire
tiny moat
We all had a great time last night at the first Seattle Hardware Happy Hour last night! Also, I brought a Microscope because why a not?
spice moss
oh yeah @stuck moth today its happen the minigun hype https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/959477362760052736
Twitter
stuck moth
🦉
stuck moth
@elfin wave wanna pubg?
dreamy solstice
are we allowed to post memes here?
stuck moth
as long as they follow the code of conduct yes
jaunty jetty
is starbound the terraria in space one or the minecraft in space one
dreamy solstice
it's basically like 2d 16 bit no mans sky and terraria had a baby
jaunty jetty
so like terraria
jaunty jetty
yep
dreamy solstice
less bosses
jaunty jetty
terraria has a storyline
dreamy solstice
but an actual, good, storyline
and more stuff to do than terraria
and it needs a 4ghz 8 core i9 to run it
OS: Windows XP or later.
Processor:Intel i9-7900X
Memory: 2 GB RAM.
Graphics: 256 MB graphics memory and directx 9.0c compatible gpu.
DirectX: Version 9.0c.
Network: Broadband Internet connection.
Storage: 3 GB available space.
jaunty jetty
that sounds like nonsense
dreamy solstice
it actually requires a core 2 duo
dreamy solstice
but it feels like it needs a Intel i9-7900X sometimes
which is wierd because it ran just fine on a 1.3ghz dual core amd e-300 apu
cursive pike
@dusty citrus I saw your uGame on Tindie. Bought it. It running CP & all.
dreamy solstice
also one other question, are we allowed to post server invites in here?
(both name and icon are sfw
stray wind
@dreamy solstice It's ok to post once in #general-chat as long as the server content reasonably follows the code of conduct as well. Please don't repeatedly post them.
dreamy solstice
I just plan on posting this one
it's an rp server
for anyone who wants to know what this is, here is the description of the server
the multiverse roleplay server is an rp server that you can be pretty much anything from any fictional universe or anything from real life, you could be anything from a hobo to dumbledore, because of this, we have a higher than usual op tolerance to allow for our members to be pretty much any character from any universe, your character can be a deity, but not a almighty do anything, cant be killed immortal mary sue deity, I mean like, they can be killed, they do have negatives, they do have weaknesses, and they do need to have limits
technically there's no age limit, if you're old enough to use discord you're old enough to be allowed in this server
dusty citrus
We got some skilled eight year olds. ;)
dreamy solstice
the youngest member of my server is 11
he's both the youngest member and the youngest admin of the server
(and on the server, any and all nsfw content are in the nsfw channels, which can only be viewed and posted on by people who have the role that permits them access to the channels
so underaged people dont wander in there, they cant even see the channel if they dont have the role
dusty citrus
When my nephews were very young I think they got into stuff they weren't allowed to, by like at least ten years.
cursive pike
Whew.. finished playing through Bastion. Man, that was beautiful. Really like the vibe. Old Westerny. Reminds me of Firefly.
runic elbow
How does one back up a bare bones copy of Windows 2000 to a USB?
sleek urchin
@cursive pike Transistor is also a good game
cursive pike
@sleek urchin I have it. It’s next.
dreamy solstice
so ye, if anyone from the nerd dimension wishes to join my rp server, there are other nerds there so you wont be alone, including me but there are some other nerds there
(we technically have quite a mix of people, so whatever you are you wont be alone
jaunty jetty
Any'all ever seen a dovetail that isnt some kind of perfect triangle patrern? Like maybe the bottom of the dovetail fingers are domed out, or the sides are curved in like a gravity well
tame saddle
never seen it, but i imagine it's possible. that's going to be a pain to match the mating pieces. well, if you're hand-cutting them.
jaunty jetty
yea that would be crazy
tame saddle
leave it to leigh. they are jig masters...
but technically, those are not dovetails. more like fancy finger/box joints. i know..nitpicking.
scratch that. upon closer inspection...most of them are dovetails.
jaunty jetty
exactly
tame saddle
and now, after watching the isoloc video, i'm back to my original statement. fancy finger joints. but definitely stronger than normal finger joints, since they do enjoy the mechanical lock.
ocean sigil
but they are pretty 😉
jaunty jetty
pretty is the main thing
they have mechanical lock but the lobes that are bigger on the far end are substantially weaker because of their reduced base width
runic elbow
Don't you love when you try to update to Windows ME from Windows 2000, and the installer tells you that it can't upgrade from Windows 2000, and now you have to get a Windows 98 ISO, somewhere?
covert spire
I still cannot find myself to have any positive feels for Win ME, no offense to anyone who does
runic elbow
I like it, but it can be a complete pain, sometimes.
Especially when it comes to installing it.
dreamy solstice
And if anyone has questions about my rp server feel free to ask
It is kinda late rn so I'll dm the answer to anyone who asks me the question tommorow when I can answer
dreamy solstice
Scroll up
i posted the invite up higher
in this channel
Nvm I'll dm it to you
jaunty jetty
@covert spire ME-tan was cute
covert spire
I don’t know ME-tan
jaunty jetty
covert spire
I rather Earth Chan
runic elbow
Somebody actually made this?
WHY
I wonder if someone made a Linux chan.
There's Debian Chan, Arch Chan, and Firefox Chan.
blazing pond
Not cutesie enough. You need to discover OS-tans
covert spire
I seen Firefox chan, can't share her in here tho, it's not PGish
There is a anime girl image for like all things out there
runic elbow
There's plenty of PG Firefox Chan pictures out there.
spice moss
@covert spire so you rather be in a Earth Clan
covert spire
Maybe there is, I just haven't seen her, maybe because I wasn't looking, just seen random image of her once
Idk if there is OS tan I'd prefer over Earth Chan, but she is cuter than ME tan
covert spire
Ok, I blew away a few minutes of my life to entertain about what OS tans appear like
Apple tan should have earbuds, otherwise about right
I wish someone spent more thought into Linux Mint tan
runic elbow
Ever heard about Tide-Pod Chan?
runic elbow
I was fine with the joke, until people started actuallyy biting tide pods.
Now I can't look at the jokes involving non-photoshopped Tide Pods on food without fearing for the posters life.
runic elbow
ANd now there's talk about taking the Pods off the market. Which is a shame. Great detergent.
covert spire
some bar went through extensive research to make a drink look exactly like colors of tide-pod
runic elbow
I remember this one candy shop making candy that looked like tide pods.
covert spire
That's even worse!
runic elbow
This was before things got out of hand.
covert spire
Well, they kinda changed Tide-Pod-chan's image since last time I seen
runic elbow
I can't believe that people thought it would be a good idea to put soap pods into their mouth for an Internet challenge.
tame saddle
embrace the free and open internet, they said. it will be fun, they said. 🤦
runic elbow
I mean, the internet's been fine. Tide Pods are just an example of the Internet giving idiots more ways to be idiots.
covert spire
There are people that do dangerous things as "a challenge"
I love how DD taken that & turned it opposite
tame saddle
note, i do not advocate for non-free/non-open internet. it just comes with the expansion of certain Darwinian consequences...
runic elbow
Yep.
covert spire
Well, tbh, as long as people take challenge to show their stupidity, Darwinian things will always happen
runic elbow
I remember this challenge where you drank a stupid amount of alcohol, and nominated someone else to do it.
runic elbow
OK, so I'm currently downloading a Windows 98 ISO off the internet, right now. So now I get to see if it likes USBs.
Eeeeehhhh it's taking forever, the Windows ME ISO took less time then this.
runic elbow
OK, gonna somehow make WIndows 98 bootable from USB.
runic elbow
OK, I can't do that. I'm gonna need DOS. DOS is the only way.
dreamy solstice
due to some raids from another server I had to delete all the invites and make new ones to prevent that other server's members from joining mine, here is the new invite to my server https://discord.gg/V4CQykH
grave crest
What does a PCB wear for Halloween? A solder mask.
haughty stream
🤦
dreamy solstice
dreamy solstice
STAB
runic elbow
OK, so, on my laptop, the CD I accidentally write protected, is MAGICALLY somehow UN-write protected. Maybe it had something to do with the disc drive in my other PC being dead? I don't know.
runic elbow
Oh my. Is the slot dirty?
Were you rough with it?
Ws it like that when you first got it?
dreamy solstice
nope
it's windows 10
when it had it's original hdd with windows 7, it read sdhc and sd just fine
then the os on that hdd self destructed
I got a new hdd with win 10 and it never read sd cards again
runic elbow
Did you get proper drivers for it?
dreamy solstice
okee
runic elbow
Speaking of drivers, I gotta find some Windows 98 drivers for the classic PC I'm gonna be installing said OS on.
runic elbow
OK, so apparently my CD doesn't wanna boot. Or even be read.
dreamy solstice
runic elbow
So I learned that my local dump has a PC recycle system going on. I could probably go, get a bunch of machines, fix up what I can, and make a little profit by selling them.
I could even maybe use some pieces to upgrade my Retro PC.
dreamy solstice
ebay
ebay has loads of old computer parts
I got a $50 amd gpu with 1 gb of vram, discontinued of course for $19 on ebay
very good gpu
used it in my windows xp gaming desktop
runic elbow
When booting a WIndows 98 setup CD, do I want to select "Start Windows 98 setup from CD ROM", or "Start computer with CD ROM support"?
Please help, this is the first time I'vde ever installed Windows 98.
I feel like I'm gonna mess something up.
dreamy solstice
lemme load up my virtual machine, then I can answer for sure
dreamy solstice
I'm redownloading it, my old hdd suicided and I'm re downloading it
runic elbow
Is a DOS prompt normal?
dreamy solstice
no
runic elbow
It's on A:.
runic elbow
Oh, ok.
dreamy solstice
I'm using my vm to be absolutely sure
runic elbow
OK, I got an actual set up, now.
runic elbow
I'm not sure if I backed up things I wanna keep., I gotta check.
dreamy solstice
ok the iso downloaded
time to load up virtualbox
ok so boot from cd rom, select 1:start setup from cd rom
press enter when it tells you to
configure unallocated space
runic elbow
I went through the thing, and it told me to make sure a WIndows 98 boot floppy was inserted.
dreamy solstice
you can decide whether you do or dont want large disk support
runic elbow
I'd personally want to use ALL the hard disk.
Although it doesn't matter, because I'll be replacing it with Windows ME soon, anyway.
dreamy solstice
once it asks to make sure the cd is in
runic elbow
I just did this because I can't upgrade to it from WIndows 2000.
runic elbow
It's currently 35% done.
dreamy solstice
with formating?
runic elbow
Yes.
dreamy solstice
after that it'll do the scandisk
then the setup will start
the installation process I mean
the rest is pretty straightforward
you'll need a product key
runic elbow
OK, it's setting up.
dreamy solstice
good
runic elbow
OK, both keys it gave me are invalid.
dreamy solstice
did you try any of the ones I gave you?
runic elbow
I'm trying your keys right now.
dreamy solstice
np
runic elbow
Files are apparently missing, so my version of WIndows 98 is incomplete. And now Windows ME can't upgrade from this.
Wait, it's going now.
And it needs a key. Which I don't have.
random kite
I wonder if anyone here would know this... has anyone used the Freedom E310 (the new riscv microcontroller)?
I'm wanting to buy one but don't know if I have any hardware that can program it
runic elbow
Never heard of it.
runic elbow
Looks neat.
random kite
WOW just looked and apparently they've released the higher-end one recently
this is... exciting
covert spire
runic elbow
How many CPUs are there gonna be? There's the three types around since DOS that I don't remember the names of, x86, x64, SoC ARM, regular ARM, PIC 32, and now RISC-V.
random kite
well, there's a lot more than that - you've left out MIPS (similar level to ARM, less popular than it once was), POWER and SPARC (high-end servers nowadays, POWER in particular is still going strong), and numerous ones in the embedded world, AVR and the MSP430 just 2 I could name
runic elbow
And Power PC. Can't forget that one.
My god. These things are almost as diverse as Linux.
random kite
these are just the ones Wikipedia knows about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instruction_set_architectures
runic elbow
Oh my.
dreamy solstice
I have a question
my laptop has good cpu, ram hdd etc but terrible gpu
I have a desktop with a really good gpu but bad cpu ram etc
is there a way to plug my desktop into my laptop and control it's gpu with my laptop?
basically use another computer as an egpu
I basically want to use a desktop as an egpu for a laptop
jaunty jetty
nope
you might, unlikely but might be able to transplant the desktop's GPU into the laptop, but that's your best case and it's very unlikely
dreamy solstice
ok
runic elbow
I now have a Windows 2000 server. Something I wanted to play around with for a bit, now. ANd I have no idea what to do with it.
runic elbow
That's a great idea. I just hope it doesn't mind a modern server on the same router. And I hope the modern system doesn't mind my Retro server.
dreamy solstice
yeet
runic elbow
Before I do any cloud systems with it, I might need to upgrade the storage. Two gigs is nice, but it's not enough.
dreamy solstice
the os supports up to 2 terabytes of hdd space
runic elbow
Yep. And maybe I'll upgrade to that, someday. But until then, I gotta deal with 60 gigs.
dreamy solstice
okee
what is the model of the computer?
I'll find you a link to the hdd you'll want
runic elbow
Why would I need a link to a hard drive? I can get them real cheap on Amazon.
dreamy solstice
crucial sells better
they sell solid state drives for pretty much any computer
amazon isnt friendly to old parts
dreamy solstice
what size is standard size again?
on second thought
tell me the model of the computer
I can list every compatible ram upgrade and ssd upgrade
runic elbow
It's fine, I already know what this machine can take. Thanks for offering to help, though.
dreamy solstice
ok
runic elbow
I should probably just get some CD Rs, rather then using a single CD RW.
zinc lintel
CD RW were so freaking cool in the early 2000s
…And then everyone realized for the number of times you'll ever rewrite a CD, it's cheaper just to microwave the old one and burn a new CD-R
dreamy solstice
and cd rw's can only be rewritten like 5 times
tame saddle
uh oh...my old spinner is getting clickity. better order the new SSD quick... 😬
dreamy solstice
you fool, the clicking will discipline you
if you can learn to be patient with it
you will be patient with anything
tame saddle
i'm no stranger. me and clickity-spinner been knowing each other for a couple decades.
dreamy solstice
if you can learn to be perfectly patient with it, you can be patient with anything at all
or you can spend like $75 and get a new ssd
tame saddle
the patience is easy. like i said...nothing new. its when it's stops spinning all together... granted, it's the extra drive (boot/main is an SSD). but, still a number of years of data i need to pull off before it dies.
zinc lintel
It's always embarrassing having to submit a public records request to the NSA to recover your lost data ;-p
stuck moth
@runic elbow cpu architectures were done for every new computer in the early days. it was actually an innovation to be compatible across computers. This is an interesting narrative about early "mini" computers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine
runic elbow
Oh my.
dreamy solstice
I'm still struggling to build these frickers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor
runic elbow
What do you mean CD RWs could only be rewritten five times? I've had this CD RW for a while, and I've burned things to it countless times. Also, that's quite an interesting looking project.
dreamy solstice
I've had expieriences where the cd rw becomes unusable after 5 rewrites
runic elbow
Oh yeah. The lower quality ones can do that.
I'd reccomend Sony discs. They're really good.
dreamy solstice
ok, and with the memristor thing, all I really need to build them are bits of copper or brass oxidized with sulfur, and then coat it in aluminum foil
grave crest
Anyone familiar with the largest room in the world?
It's the Room for Improvement.
runic elbow
Never heard of it.
dreamy solstice
also
how good is the hp omen laptop?
not the omen x
just the 15 inch omen laptop
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (2.8 GHz, up to 3.8 GHz, 6 MB cache, 4 cores) + NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 (4 GB GDDR5 dedicated)
16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)
15.6" diagonal FHD IPS UWVA anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
2TB 5400 rpm SATA+ 128GB M.2 SSD
4-cell, 63.3 Whr Lithium-ion polymer Battery
Intel® 802.11ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 Combo
Windows 10 Home 64
cost:$1084.99
runic elbow
I don't know. All I know is HP laptop=good laptop.
blazing pond
It seems like a solid laptop, but the GPU is a bit wimpy and the SSD a bit small for that kind of money IMO. However, the screen quality looks pretty good
I'm not really up on laptops honestly, compared to desktops
There are plenty of ways to get less hardware for more money and vice versa depending on the features and fit-and-finish of the system
dreamy solstice
the gpu isnt on my highest priority
the most demanding games I play are heavily modded minecraft, garry's mod and starbound
and skyrim
how good is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M?
I found a lenovo laptop with basically the same specs and $100 cheaper but it has the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M
covert spire
There is a reason it’s cheaper, should be even lower
1050 ti can play most games, as long as you’re not on higher graphics demanding
Or lots of cad
It can render, just mainly best for occasional cad & such
dreamy solstice
they all get bad reviews though...
the most promising is http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-15-7000-gaming/spd/inspiron-15-7577-laptop/dncwfs615h
the most powerful of those laptops
covert spire
Yea, I’d go to HP before Dell
covert spire
As bad of experience I’ve had with HP, I can at least say I know I’ll get 3 months out of it
I don’t know what current on market for laptops
I’ve went to building desktops
But in fairness, I felt if I’m going to spend over $1k, I want to ensure I’m getting the performance to back it
dreamy solstice
my current hp laptop is an hp elitebook 8460p
it's old outdated, and this one was assembled from trash parts
still a great laptop
it's several years old yet it runs windows 10 perfectly, it is good for casual gaming, but for my needs I need something better
hp seems good for price and power, terrible customer service
dreamy solstice
oh and the laptop was left in a bin for 2 years without any use whatsoever during that
covert spire
In fairness, I ran games on it I shouldn’t
dreamy solstice
has hp gotten worse of late?
cause I have an old hp laptop that's still good today
runic elbow
dreamy solstice
yeah, my hp laptop had died a month ago due to a suicidal hard drive
I fixed it easily
there was another laptop in the house that nobody cared about, it was dead anyways
covert spire
I find myself upgrading HD & ram natively
covert spire
Also salvage the screen, also good for making into monitor
dreamy solstice
it's screen is cracked
that's how it died
nobody cared about it enough to fix it
dreamy solstice
it's cpu is worthless since it's a 1.7 ghz core i3 BGA cpu
the ram would work if one of my ram cards die
the wifi card would work
covert spire
I ran an i3 until battery died
covert spire
You’re probably better off getting ram, usually better than what is ever installed
dreamy solstice
my laptop has 8gb
runic elbow
I find that a 1.80 Ghz CPU does OK.
covert spire
Swap to 32gb, it’ll work good bit faster
dreamy solstice
When I got it, I popped the panel off and saw 2, 4gb ddr3 modules
it only supports 16gb or less btw
covert spire
Ok, put in 16gb
dreamy solstice
and I'm not wasting money on an upgrade
I'm saving up for an entire new computer
covert spire
Also check to make sure you don’t put higher cache than it can handle
I made that mistake
dreamy solstice
it's gpu is crap, it cant be replaced
it's cpu is decent but not the best, I definetely could have better
covert spire
If you’re playing Minecraft, the only hold up I know of is the ram
dreamy solstice
I need more hdd/ssd space and ram,
for what I need
it'll be easier to get a new laptop
covert spire
You can easily buy HD & ram to replace
dreamy solstice
but the gpu...
I need something better than the hd 3000
and it doesnt support 3rd generation cpus
covert spire
Ya looking at two sides of coins & calling them same
covert spire
There’s more ways to make computer work faster than just 1
dreamy solstice
for the games I want to play, the hd 3000 cant cut it
it can run minecraft and games around that era and earlier
covert spire
Then I’m going to suggest the most budget wise I can
dreamy solstice
things like World of tanks, starbound, gmod etc it cant run
covert spire
Buy new one with 180gtx, go with lowest HD & ram possible
Yea, World of Tanks is a game I ran on laptops that it shouldn’t
dreamy solstice
the most I'm willing to spend is $1300
covert spire
World of Tanks is high end graphics
dreamy solstice
ye
the hd version at least
the hd 3000 cant run the sd version on the lowest settings
covert spire
Then go with what I suggested, you can find a laptop with i7, 1080gtx for gaming, the HD & ram will make you cry, but go ahead & replace them
dreamy solstice
the laptop I have my eyes on has an i7, the gtx 1070, 16 gb of ram and 1tb of hdd and 256gb of ssd
covert spire
It’s only way I know to keep under $1300 & get the performance you want
dreamy solstice
and it costs $1299
covert spire
And in a year World of Tanks won’t work on it
dreamy solstice
I tend not to care much about graphics quality, I tend to run it on medium no matter the game
covert spire
I’ll put it this way
In pre-built, there is 5% increase per part you buy in it
Maybe little bit less, but usually you can find it cheaper if you add it yourself
dreamy solstice
so it'll be cheaper to get it with less ram and hdd and upgrade it?
the os is already on the ssd though
so hdd wont need the os ported to the new one
unless it's a fusion drive with the ssd built into the hdd
dreamy solstice
aight
ocean sigil
for those interested - Falcon Heavy Launch - brief delay but still on for today - http://www.spacex.com/webcast
covert spire
Oh, this is Adafruit server
near eagle
@ocean sigil Do they have Supercharger stations on Mars? I checked the web site and it only shows 3 of Earths continents have them.
ocean sigil
@near eagle I this goes well, expect they will have one soon 😉
wow
simply amazing.
It is just incredible to sse the boosters land! This time two at the same time - congrstulations to SpaceX.
dreamy solstice
elon musk is tony stark
covert spire
No need to announce it
ocean sigil
??
ancient rivet
did center booster make it? they stopped the webcast
covert spire
The feed skipped it
ancient rivet
they tried, but remote camera fritzed out
shell badge
sleek urchin
dreamy solstice
YES
covert spire
Lulz
runic elbow
OK, next time when clearing servers I don't takl in, I'll be sure to pay more attention to what server I'm leaving. I left this server and another one that I quite liked.
Good thing it's easy to find a link to this server.
sleek urchin
runic elbow
I have like, seven ISOs on my desktop. I should probably do something about this.
runic elbow
jaunty jetty
yea but ubuntu
that's about as red pill as two corn cobs
man if I had a green sticky note and my key-shaped flash drive, just "eat me"
spice moss
http://www.polarbearpitching.com/ if you want how some startup get funding
spice moss
would you do it?
dreamy solstice
I'd take both
both oses have their pros and cons
both are good in their own ways
so...
I'd take both
wanna know what happens?
xkcd comic #566
runic elbow
I think my laptop's starting to lose battery a little faster then when I first got it.
ancient rivet
:x-wing: (oh well, nvm)
covert spire
Teevo, you should be able to get battery for it
dreamy solstice
^
spice moss
WSL update for recent Windows Insider Build https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/02/07/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17093-pc/
spice moss
the tesla roaster have small nice stuff in it what is going to mars
runic elbow
Ever want to use Windows 2000 Minesweeper on a modern machine? Well here it is!
I don't know why you would, but you can.
fluid forum
I was amused by that, and sad that it was not in more then one language like the Voyager probe
runic elbow
That's not a fun situation for anybody.
runic elbow
OK, so while trying to set up my server as a media server, I learned something. I have no idea what I'm doing.
But, that's the fun in this whole thing for me: Not having a single clue what I'm doing.
dreamy solstice
yeet
runic elbow
OK, apparently I can't set up shared folders, right.
blazing pond
I love it when you take the car in for an inspection and get hit with a thousand bucks of repairs
spice moss
twitch updated they guidelines https://blog.twitch.tv/twitch-community-guidelines-updates-f2e82d87ae58
covert spire
dusty citrus
does anyone have an idea to making toothpaste sticky? When I use google it just pops up diy slime junk
zinc lintel
Why would you need sticky toothpaste, if you don't mind me asking?
@dusty citrus
runic elbow
Oh god, I hate the word slime... The internet just made it annoying for me.
dusty citrus
wow
fluid forum
are you trying to make it more sticky?
runic elbow
I need an SD to IDE adapter for my server and the only good one on Amazon doesn't ship to Canada.
runic elbow
There's regular hard drives, too. But they're only a few megabytes. And there's IDE SSDs. But they're PATA.
I could get an SSD, but there are not Mini IDE to IDE adapters.
fluid forum
no ide to sata ?
runic elbow
IDE SSDs use Mini IDE. I thought Mini IDE was called PATA.
And I have no free SATA drives.
blazing pond
original ATA and IDE are interchangeable. The P in PATA didn't show up until the S in SATA meant something different
and the mini connector is pin-compatible with the full size one (plus two pairs of pins for power and ground), so you just need a simple plug adapter
First thing that I Goog'd up https://www.amazon.com/2-5-Laptop-Hard-Disk-Adapter/dp/B0010MKARA
runic elbow
OK, maybe I'll use that if I can't get an SD to IDE adapter.
blazing pond
Also look into CompactFlash cards
runic elbow
Don't they only go up to four gigabytes?
blazing pond
They also use an electrically-compatible IDE interface
Eh, depends. They went big when they were still used in cameras
runic elbow
I'll probably look into that.
blazing pond
Anyway, they can also be adapted for use as an IDE drive in an older system, while still being easy to plug into a modern PC with a USB reader
runic elbow
Yeah. That's the same reason I wanted to get an SD card in the machine.
Maybe your suggestion would be a less pricey solution.
blazing pond
SD card solutions usually need a level of emulation between the SD card and the target device, since SD is a newer interface. You can usually manage it with an Arduino for smaller-pinned drives like floppies
runic elbow
So, only use SD cards with machines that have slow transfer speeds to begin with?
blazing pond
Well.... Yeah, pretty much. But there's a lot of wiggle room between what makes parsimonious sense and what's possible.
runic elbow
For me, I'm not really picky about speeds. I need storage space. It's when it comes to the point when it takes hours to transfer almost no data, where it becomes an issue for me.
blazing pond
Refresh my memory on the project here?
runic elbow
I want to have a Windows 2000 storage server with large amounts of space, with storage that can be removed without having to unscrew a hard drive.
dreamy solstice
it's what I did
blazing pond
... I'll be honest, that doesn't sound like a good idea from a standards, security, or efficiency standpoint
I understand the retro-cool appeal of a 2K box, I have a win2K laptop myself
But I would not put one in service. The moment that thing gets an internet connection, it'll be pwned by SMB flaws
dreamy solstice
I'm the person that manages to get software to run on computers that it shouldnt be able to run on
blazing pond
These days you can plug a USB hard drive directly into most routers. It'd be about as fast if not faster
dreamy solstice
I got a game that kinda needs a 4.0 ghz octa core, core i9 to run, on a 2nd gen dual core i5 processor that runs at 2.5 ghz
blazing pond
Which is not to say it'd be fast in an absolute sense, but the era of hardware that can go into a Win2K box is not speedy
runic elbow
So this whole project is pointless and I should just give up and just put regular Windows 2000 on this thing?
blazing pond
Honestly for all the investment you could spend just getting it to work, you could hang a USB drive off a Raspberry Pi and it'd Just Work for a lot less sweat
and then you could focus on cool client-side retrocomputing on the 2K box
blazing pond
@dreamy solstice I doubt the game actually "needs" a Core i9, given that the game was undoubtedly developed well before Core i9 was really a thing
dreamy solstice
you'd think
it may say it needs a core 2 duo and better
but it's that poorely optimized
blazing pond
Which game is it? I saw something float around about the "Core i9" recommendation but I forget the title
dreamy solstice
starbound
runic elbow
Alright. I'll just make this machine a regular Windows 2000 machine.
blazing pond
Looks like the recommended specs have since been updated to Core i3
at least on Steam
dreamy solstice
even on a beefy alienware desktop it still cries a little sometimes
and it's a 2D game!
blazing pond
Sounds like a proud member of the Dwarf Fortress school of lack of optimization
dreamy solstice
at least it isnt a ram and gpu hog
blazing pond
Yep, that's Dwarf Fortress :v
dreamy solstice
it hogs cpu usage, it runs on the intel 3000 and 4 gigs of ram
but the cpu?
oof
needs a pretty beefy cpu
I however have never played dwarf fortress
so I dont know what it was like performance wise
blazing pond
Oh, it's still in active development. By one very dedicated developer
It uses ASCII graphics https://i.imgur.com/wVUv3Vl.png
dreamy solstice
I know it uses ascii graphics, I've seen screenshots
that's actually some good ascii graphics...
blazing pond
But because it has a ludicrously detailed simulation and absolutely zero threading or optimization...
It will take a single processor core and murder the HECK out of it
Every frame, it simulates and does pathfinding for every single entity in every generated tile of the map, displayed or not.
dreamy solstice
my games are so ungodly simple calculations and cpu usage wise that my no mans sky clone would run on a PENTIUM 2
and 16 mb of ram and windows 95 ...
blazing pond
Simulation goes down to the granularity of the temperature of different tissues in each entity's bodies
dreamy solstice
a decent sized simulated universe, with npcs, different races and factions, procedurally generated everything including ores, items and quests, all runs on pretty much anything
I dont even need to optimize
and yes it uses ascii graphics
runic elbow
So I went to install Kernel Ex on my Windows 2000 PC. When it told me terrible news. It only works on WIndows 98 and ME.
covert spire
See? Windows 98 is awesome!
runic elbow
I don't want to install Windows again, but I must for this project.
covert spire
I’d just done Virtualbox
dreamy solstice
same
runic elbow
Yeah, but I like to challange myself. Even if the challange makes me want to bash my head into the wall.
dreamy solstice
I dont bash my head into the wall
I bash my fist into the project when it doesnt work
because most of the time it's a loose wire in a device I built
and smashing it, smashes the wire back in place
runic elbow
Wouldn't that also maybe knock something else loose?
covert spire
This is computer
runic elbow
Am Calcupooter
Am doing calcoolootians
I just thought of it, and I thought it was a little funny.
dreamy solstice
yeah well my circuitry is like, 100% prismite
runic elbow
ok
dreamy solstice
I say screw storebought components when you can make em yourself
runic elbow
Yep.
dreamy solstice
except my transistors die after a month regardless of usage levels
covert spire
Wait what?
runic elbow
I'd imagine.
dreamy solstice
yeah my transistors only last a month
their material dries out and loses it's conductivity
covert spire
How?
runic elbow
Very carefully.
covert spire
Sounds unstable
runic elbow
I wouldn't want to be using those.
dreamy solstice
they are actually pretty stable
I take the prismite crystals, wrap them in aluminum foil, and add the leads
works perfectly
it functions as a transistor, capacitor and resistor simultaniously
covert spire
Stable = still works after a year or more
runic elbow
Wow. That would make my Retro PC VERY stable. Nothing blew up, yet.
covert spire
Although, in fairness, some of my projects are reviving electronics that are older than myself
At same time, why I declared Win ME not stable
I couldn’t ever get it to last 3 months
covert spire
I used Win7 for over 3 years with no issues on laptop
dreamy solstice
well my copy must've been corrupted
dreamy solstice
my laptop runs games it shouldnt be able to either
it runs heavily modded starbound near perfectly, and it's an old 2012 laptop
covert spire
Although, I lulz that mayor of town here decided to rebuild his computer and update from Win7
I ran World of Tanks on a 2007 laptop
covert spire
It didn’t even have a graphics card
covert spire
Now I can’t play World of Tanks tho
Sadly, & I got better cpu with decent GPU
Desktop build
Since laptops no longer have optical drive, I won’t use them
dreamy solstice
I have a potato desktop, with a beast of a gpu
ok cpu, terrible amount of ram and hdd space, no wifi, windows xp, and a beefy radeon gpu
covert spire
I’ll upgrade my GPU after I put in a cpu & mobo that can back it
Cheapest cpu on market (that will support a GPU)
But it can run Blender
So, I’m good
dreamy solstice
yeah it runs on linux
MINIMUM:
OS: Debian Stable or Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or later
Processor: Core 2 Duo
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: 256 MB graphics memory and opengl 2.1 compatible gpu
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 3 GB available space
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Debian Stable or Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or later
Processor: Core i3
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: 256 MB graphics memory and opengl 2.1 compatible discrete gpu
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 4 GB available space
dreamy solstice
I'd reccomend a dual core i5 running at no more than 2.50 ghz for the cpu
2nd generation or later
covert spire
Well, there is AMD that can match that
If I jump to Intel again, it’ll be for i7 high end
covert spire
Or if I ever attempt at i9 build
But the GPU for those builds is beyond what most people even get
Which is why I’m annoyed they form factored EATX
dreamy solstice
I have no ssd
just an hdd
hdd's suit my needs
I dont bother buying hardware that I dont actually need
covert spire
I was talking about DDR4 ram card
covert spire
Although, I pulled my 750 gb SSD/HDD from laptop
runic elbow
Kernel Ex is being a pain, and I am having an unfun time with it.
abstract violet
@graceful forge https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-IIC-I2C-Interface-LCD-1602-2004-LCD-Adapter-Plate-for-Arduino/1873198856.html
btw
couldn't link it on yt X)
night crescent
1200 Drones form Olympic Rings _ Opening Ceremony _ PyeongChang 2018
https://vimeo.com/255127824
runic elbow
Anyone know where I can get an intact copy of Windows 98 SE? The one on GetintoPC is missing files.
runic elbow
Coolio. Can you send it to me, please?
runic elbow
OK.
dreamy solstice
give it 10-20 minutes to upload
dreamy solstice
np
runic elbow
.I did it. My suffering is over. I finally did it. I got Kernel Ex.
dusty citrus
Made a purchase?
runic elbow
No purchases needed.
It works! I got VLC installing on Windows ME!
Very slowly, but it's going.
This is the greatest thing ever.
If only it worked on WIndows 2000, though...
covert spire
Win 98 FTW!
dusty citrus
Not following but I understand a victory was achieved. Yay! (for some unknown) ;)
vlc I got though. santa hat in december vlc. ;)
runic elbow
I've been trying all day to get Kernel Ex on this PC. ANd now it's on there, and now I can get modern applications on my Retro PC.
Oh cool.
covert spire
runic elbow
Really? Is there REALLY Windows 98-Chan, now?
covert spire
Tan*
dusty citrus
hahaha.
covert spire
Idk what that is
runic elbow
Is Keyhook a default Windows file?
I don't trust a program that looks like an explosion with the word "HOT" in the middle.
covert spire
Oh, I totally want a chan for each of US Olympics team for 2020 Summer games
runic elbow
OK, it says the file is a driver for my graphics chip.
And my retro PC can't launch VLC.
Probably doesn't like 512 megs of RAM.
dusty citrus
That's a bit thin but I ran a 4 megabyte RAM PC with linux on it in text-only mode for a couple of years as my main system.
runic elbow
What does that have to do with running VLC with 512 megs of RAM?
dusty citrus
It means a very complete system does not need 512 megabytes -- media-oriented is another story.
covert spire
UI takes most memory
runic elbow
I am trying to use this thing as a media PC for my TV.