Most likely.
#general-chat
runic elbow
Thanks for the tip.
You think I should just restore the eyes, or make them a different colour?
solar hamlet
no idea
vast condor
@solar hamlet do you have a part list for your osh park blinka board?
solar hamlet
@vast condor let me update the hackaday.io page
vast condor
@solar hamlet okay! 🤓 
solar hamlet
here it is
I will probably get the boards tomorrow, then I can make photos and upload instructions
vast condor
@solar hamlet Fantastic, thank you so much!
runic elbow
Hey, what products from Adafruit do you think would be handy for my Zizzle IZ toy restoration project?
I want to make it seem more like the real toys.
Because it's just a little Mc Donalds version.
proven olive
What sort of interior size do you have?
runic elbow
I'll get a picture of it standing on top of a rubix cube. Might that help?
proven olive
Well, that shows the exterior.
If you're going to be shoving things inside it, it'll be useful to know if things like screws or supports are getting in the way
runic elbow
I don't know the interior. I can't open it.
Because they have the stupid triangle screws.
proven olive
oof
runic elbow
The body is about the size of a golfball. And the head is sort of smaller then that.
proven olive
You might - MIGHT! - be able to squeeze a Pi Zero in there.
runic elbow
I might need to hook it up and not use a battery but it seems VERY possible.
You think a Pi can use the coding of an original Zizzle IZ?
proven olive
Doubt it. According to what I just read, the original one has a lot of "inputs"
Which I'm not sure you'll be able to squeeze in
runic elbow
Maybe not. But I'm sure I can make do with one button.
After all, it is just a Mc Donalds version.
proven olive
One button? Sure. You could probably fit it, a Pi Zero, a small LiPo, and one of these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3196
proven olive
It's a project, right?
runic elbow
Yep.
Something to bring a childhood toy back to life.
If only I had black and white paint. I could fix the eyes.
proven olive
Paint it up, then put some sort of clear coat on it to protect it.
Colored plastic McDonalds toy, right? I'd aim for a semi-gloss one. Would probably hit the plasticy-painty look better than matte or full gloss
runic elbow
Alrighty. Thanks for the suggestion.
proven olive
Be aware, that Zero LiPo I linked does NOT have a charging circuit built in.
So you'd need something to charge the lipo.
Actually, a Feather ESP8266 would go really good. Internet connectivity! Plus LiPo charging. Plus small size. You're not doing much with it other than playing sounds, right?
runic elbow
You think I can fit a battery that can power the Pi in the Zizzle? Along with the pi?
Oh cool!
Maybe. I might try some experimentation.
Can this little doodad also manipulate LEDs?
runic elbow
Awesome!
runic elbow
Small enough to fit into a golfball?
proven olive
And some of the GPIOs get a little funky because of how the ESP8266 is
It's 2 inches by 0.9 inches
Probably would stick into the head a little
runic elbow
My god, that might do just swell.
runic elbow
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll be saving up for this piece!
blazing pond
the power figures I got for the ESP suggest its WiFi stack is power hungry. When WiFi is on and active, there wouldn't be that much of a difference between the ESP and a Pi Zero W, but when it's off the ESP is much more efficient. FWIW.
proven olive
This might be too large to fit inside, but would be super convenient if you could. Would make plugging in a lot easier: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3258
runic elbow
That gives me an idea: Would it be possible to create an online and offline mode kind of set up with this feather?
proven olive
Even "Active" the WiFi isn't always "Active" unless it's doing something.
But yeah, you can
runic elbow
Like, offline and portable, it does one simple thing: Play a song. But when connected to a server of some sort, a PC can control it and make it do more then that.
THat's my idea.
proven olive
proven olive
You'd also want to add some sort of power switch
One of these would go well, if you have the space
runic elbow
If I do some black magic, or maybe have a little luck, that MIGHT make it in.
Looks like I might need to cut it down a bit, though.
runic elbow
Cool. Maybe I'll ask a few friends if I can borrow some soldering equipment.
proven olive
But a nice thing about the one with the long wires is you could run the switch to the outside of the body
proven olive
With the Feather, the charging's built in, so you'd just need to connect the USB
runic elbow
Oh, ok.
runic elbow
This is getting a bit more ambitious then I planned.
Gone from a simple repaint to making it more advanced then the actual thing.
proven olive
...But wait! There's more!
If you put CircuitPython on the ESP8266, you could have @sturdy oyster help you out in getting WebREPL stuff going on it.
And then you could control it from your computer
proven olive
Theoretically you can do it with Arduino as well, but I LOVE CircuitPython, and REPL/WebREPL is so much easier to use than building a custom web interface
runic elbow
You think I would be able to add a little more to the Zizzle if I used a Circuit Python? Like, maybe motorized eyes? Or maybe making the ears affect the music?
proven olive
Motorized eyes would be easiest involving a 3D printer, a lot of knifing, and would eat a lot of space.
Having the ears affect the music... Maybe?
Do they move?
runic elbow
They do twist.
And the eyes are loose. They do move up and down. They just don't have motors like the actual thing.
proven olive
Any kind of motor is huge, relatively.
runic elbow
So avoid those unless I have space to waste?
proven olive
You MIGHT be able to put some form of potentiometer in the ears, but I fell like you won't have enough space
For the eyes? I can't think of anything that would even fit at all
runic elbow
Yeah, maybe that wouldn't be a great idea.
proven olive
How much soldering/programming/etc stuff have you done previously?
runic elbow
I've done no soldering, I've only done a little bit of BATCH.
I have done a SLIGHT bit of Python.
proven olive
I definitely recommend keeping it fairly simple then. ESP8266, LiPo, power switch, some LEDs, and CircuitPython
Ah, fantastic! CP will be wonderful then
runic elbow
CP?
Is this about my slight knowledge of Python?
That was only to make the chat in Minecraft Pi say "Hello World"
runic elbow
Oh, ok.
lost condor
It's better than diving into C. 😄
runic elbow
I know. I've tried.
lost condor
Well, to some people...I prefer C myself. 😄
But I'm coming in at the end of the conversation
runic elbow
Yep.
proven olive
@lost condor I was actually using CP to referr to CircuitPython
Because, well, he has used Python
lost condor
I'm just here to ask for halloween color suggestions for my souaphone (parade tomorrow)
proven olive
Sousaphone? Man, if it wasn't tomorrow, I'd say put a great big pumpkin cover over the horn, but you probably don't have time to acquire/make one
proven olive
@runic elbow That might make things more difficult, but also more useful. You can make the eyes move, but you're more limited on space
Assuming the gears/motor aren't busted
lost condor
lost condor
Well, watch the end of the video. 😄
proven olive
LAVA
runic elbow
One minute. Just fixing up the paint job on the Zizzle.
Are they called IZ Or Zizzle?
proven olive
@runic elbow Yes. Zizzle Iz
runic elbow
OK.
runic elbow
I think besides the eyes, the painting is done!
Now I just need the correct screwdrivers.
And black and white paint.
proven olive
Screwdriver will be the hardest to find.
runic elbow
Thanks.
proven olive
That was a lot easier and a lot less expensive than I expected
Also, multiple sizes since who knows precisely what size that thing has
runic elbow
Yep. My LEAST favorite thing about screwdrivers.
proven olive
Indeed.
runic elbow
Next one, I'm painting blue with Yellow for the belly, ears, and head thingie.
thin canopy
@lost condor is it possible to program the pixels into an animated jack-o-lantern face?
thin canopy
cool.
proven olive
Add more pixels. Make the whole thing pixels
thin canopy
pixels and batteries, of course
lost condor
Man, I don't have time to do the math for the Jack-O-Lantern face tonight.
I'll just have to do some colors instead
thin canopy
unless you can harness the power of music -- or wind in this case 😉
runic elbow
... I hate that, because it's so clever.
proven olive
I'm sorry, witch colors are those?
lost condor
Then I also have the "halloween three" colors (purple, orange, and green)
proven olive
You should do Candy Corn colors.
lost condor
And then there's one more but due to phones these days and their ability to color correct, it just looks white. 😄
Yeah I tried Candy Corn colors, but there wasn't enough difference
proven olive
Thinking about it, I'm not surprised
runic elbow
I have one question: No store around my area sells candy corn. yet somehow, during halloween, people have MOUNTAINS of it. Where does it keep coming from?
lost condor
I'm afraid in daylight it'll look like WHITE white black
They sell it, they're just sold out. 😄
proven olive
@runic elbow They bought it back in the 80s in bulk.
proven olive
There's just a dump truck that makes the rounds every halloween
lost condor
There's Candy Corn
It looks better in person
Phones are really good at color correction, and they assume the bright spots in the pictures that are some shade of orange should actually be white. 😄
proven olive
Phones do funky things to bright lights and to bright colors
Showing off bright LEDs.... not the easiest
Still, the color of the carpet is a good reflection of it
lost condor
I also have an orange and black stripe, but it looks just like white and black in pictures.
I guess that'l do for emergency pre parade programming. 😄
I like that pattern for showing off color schemes, but it's one of the less visually interesting patterns
proven olive
@lost condor Where-ish do you live?
lost condor
Atlanta-ish
proven olive
I can't think of anywhere near me that even thinks about halloween parades
Ahh. So somewhat close to Azure Skies. Pretty sure he's in the "Atlanta-ish" area
lost condor
I'm a member of a somewhat crazy street band out here.
Well, I'm a somewhat newish member
proven olive
Well, I wouldn't expect a super-strict band to allow LED'd sousaphones
lost condor
And so I needed to crazy up my sousa
proven olive
Also, speaking as a former marching band member, is ANY band sane?
proven olive
Well, yeah
proven olive
Pfff. You're only old if you want to be old.
lost condor
proven olive
Colorful!
lost condor
We aren't sounding great because this is the end of a three hour long parade, but there's an example of us
proven olive
Also, the conductor's outfit is awesome
lost condor
Isn't it though?
That's just amazing
Hrmm
Just noticed my Halloween Three palette looks just like my Mardi Gras palette
Oh well
lost condor
Yeah, and when you're only doing emissive color with super low pixel density, there's even fewer. 😄
Because "black" just looks like "off"
proven olive
There's a billionty shades of red, but in the end... It's still a shade of red
runic elbow
You think 3D printers would have issues with printing completely hollow, full sized Zizzle IZ bodies?
I want to use my Pi to make a more advanced Zizzle.
Google Home IZ.
Introducing: Google IZ. your personal desk assistent.
Oh my god, I should do that.
My god, the things on the Adashop are cheap.
runic elbow
Check it out! It's almost impossible to tell that this toy was originally black!
It even almost looks exactly like one of the originals.
Here's what it looked like before.
I just fixed up the eyes with some marker.
runic elbow
I swear, these things just LOVED to break.
Leave them alone for ONE SECOND, and they spontaniously combust.
cursive pike
I finally got a pic of the dish my son designed that I was raving about in #general-tech
spice moss
@polar wraith are you ready to rumble as F1 quali is soon
elfin wave
it's been a while since I've played
indigo jetty
I just logged on cause another group asked me to squad up (and im the 4th) I'll let you know if that changes
elfin wave
it'd be hilarious if we matched up
solar hamlet
what's PUBG?
blazing pond
I know I'm new to the server, but room for one more in ~5 minutes?
elfin wave
sure!
stuck moth
just starting a game but I can play for a while. we're in the gaming voice chat
gray aspen
Was gonna join...
stuck moth
@gray aspen get it going?
spice moss
well that qualification
stuck moth
@gray aspen I can play after you finish the update if you like
spice moss
@stuck moth have you got a update to your gaming pc?
stuck moth
I haven't added anything recently
spice moss
well from 17th Fall Creator Update started rolling
stuck moth
ah, I haven't seen it yet
spice moss
I have used it for a few weeks
gray aspen
77%
stuck moth
@gray aspen kk, I'd love to play some more. finally got a fog map but died quickly into it
gray aspen
Will let you know when it's done :)
stuck moth
👍
grave crest
I'd submit a bug report for that Windows behavior....but I think I'd be told it was a "feature".
And I'm victim to it too -- I got a message yesterday that at 2:35pm, my work laptop would be going down for a mandatory reboot.
Ok, that's....inconvienent, but acceptable. Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately, it rebooted around 2:05pm. About 5 minutes after I was told.
spice moss
https://www.hanselman.com/blog/UseASecondLaptopAsAnExtendedMonitorWithWindows10WirelessDisplays.aspx
gray aspen
Learning how to control group policies on windows is the best thing ever
spice moss
one time i set that my parents wasnt able to use internet after clock hit the sleeping time
i was keep parental control on
proven olive
Use windows as a second display? Not for me. It'd be #7
grave crest
the iPad pro is a surprisingly good second display, via the Duet app
gray aspen
"Why do you have six screens? " "because I couldn't fit 8 on the desk"
sleek urchin
gonna run into GPU power consumption at some point
grave crest
that's what the hampster is for.
gray aspen
You can connect more via USB3 these days.
sleek urchin
If you want to get to crazy levels of monitor... get an 80" 8k TV once those are available... that's equivalent to 16 1080p screens
gray aspen
So 8 of those then?
grave crest
For my work laptop (windows 7 thinkpad from 3 years ago - no USB3), I connect my ipad pro via USB and an older 1366x768 external USB2 monitor.
Neither does video well, but for static info they're glorious. I can carry a triple screen setup in a shoulder bag.
There are faster, better, larger in both resolution and size portable USB3 monitors available today....for less than what I paid for my USB2 panel. Isn't technology great? 😃
sleek urchin
that was one of those things I was thinking of... there's all these amazing 1920x1200 8" tablet screens, but the only thing I can see making use of them is a) $300 for a screen with hdmi in, b) only 1920x1080, so not the full resolution
when you can get a tablet with the same screen for about $80
proven olive
The most useful thing about multi screens in Win10 is the "snap to edge" and "snap to corner"
Makes organizing looking through multiple folders, etc a lot easier
sleek urchin
I'm getting more and more... uncertain.. about wanting to ever use Windows 10
as Microsoft pushes more and more "features" into it
but I do make sure the WMs I use in Linux support similar features like the window snapping
that is really nice
blazing pond
I wouldn't care much about 10 either way on desktop, except that I also have a Surface Pro, and Windows 8 made and now 10 makes a lot of sense there. I also like having roughly the same experience across devices, so that's why I use 10
sleek urchin
heh, yeah, I don't have anything like that
Only computer I have that has windows instlaled on a partition is my desktop
and that's MOSTLY due to just games
but most of the games that only run on windows, I just don't have the energy/time for anyways
so I tend to just stick to debian
but Microsoft has been doing really well to make Windows 10 very touch/pen friendly
Can't wait until the Snapdragon 835 devices with Windows on ARM start rollng out
(hoping for a nice tablet from that lineup that isn't a $2000 ultrabook)
blazing pond
Refurbished, Surface Pro 2 and 3s can be had for a decent price. My Surface is a Pro 3 and I can vouch for it as a useful machine
if you want to dip your toes in the full fat experience
sleek urchin
someday, when I have the money
currently have a ~$100 Atom-based tablet
it's.. okay? but the wifi drivers refused to work under Windows 10
So here I am using Android. (where, sadly, the uSD refuses to work)
blazing pond
I sprung for a deal on a refurb Fire HD 8 because I wanted an Android tablet
The small amount of RAM is... not fun
sleek urchin
this one isn't too bad
32GB Flash, 2GB RAm
quad core 1.4GHz 64b Atom
(the processor used has a max RAM capacity of 2GB anyways)
I MOSTLY got it so I could read PDFs (kindle chokes on hefty PDFs)
of course, I mostly end up using it to play old retro games
funny, that
although it does mean between the salvaged atomt ablet mainboard, and this tablet, and my rpi3..
I have more little computers than I know what to do with
proven olive
I use Windows because I play far to many games
sleek urchin
about the only reason I keep it installed on an SSD
although it makes life miserable when Windows decides it jst wants to rewrite the boot sector for its own wants
spice moss
I use Windows 10 insider builds
grave crest
I bought a third party program for MacOS for window snapping + hover-over-dock-for-window-preview.
Worth it so much, one of the things Windows did right.
runic elbow
So I accidentally made a tiny fandom of Zizzles. And now Izonas are becoming a thing.
Nevermind, it died.
worthy breach
@sleek urchin windows is dead to me
tiny moat
Oh my. This is going to be fun.
blazing pond
👁 👁
👃
👄
thin canopy
@tiny moat saw your dew-point condensation issue. I've had some similar issues over here in the desert and finally built a corrosion monitor for the workshop. A space heater can be your friend.
tiny moat
Photos for context for everyone. Basically, it got humid over here, and my SEM was cold... This results in nothing good...
I propped open mu metal sheild and used heat gun to dry everything out. I am going to be changing my shop up a lot soon, including sealing up the big gap in my garage door. Hopefully I'll be able to put a heater out here as well.
thin canopy
That should help. I monitored dewpoint hourly last winter to get a feel for corrosion risk in my standalone workshop (not connected to the house). As a result I had only two potential events that I was able to avert with a small space heater.
bold turtle
Hrm... does fork-bombing a server count for a 
, I wonder.....
tiny moat
@thin canopy You should send me some more info on that. I should probably do something like that for my shop. Adafruit IO time?
JEOL vs ISI (partial) component consumption to date. Hopefully I don't start to catch-up anytime soon.
spice moss
@tiny moat you are getting organized in your garage lab?
gray aspen
stuck moth
@grave crest what mac app for snapping?
grave crest
@stuck moth I really like HyperDock
you can get it inside and outside of the App store
Sometimes, there's an update pushed where you register it through the app store, but you need to update the binary from the website.
stuck moth
can it do a custom grid?
grave crest
Other than that, it's not bad.
@stuck moth I don't think so, I just use snap to sides and corners.
They do have a trial.
stuck moth
k, when I was looking I was hoping for something customizable because I have an ultrawide monitor
grave crest
Check out Magnet (in the app store)
I don't use it, but i've heard it's a good one
I originally got HyperDock because it did dock hover-over previews, like windows does when you hover over an open app in the taskbar.
stuck moth
ok will do! thanks!
grave crest
(if you do come across one that does a custom grid, let me know...I'll make a note of it when someone else asks) 😃
stuck moth
I found one open source one but didn't dig into the code
cursive pike
@stuck moth moom is decent as well
thin canopy
@tiny moat Let's talk about it sometime. The corrosion monitor was built with a couple of M0 RFM69 boards.
Could easily be converted to WiFi and IoT. Turns out, after copious data gathering, that prevention is pretty simple. In my climate, keeping the workshop above freezing and <60% RH does the trick.
spice moss
gray aspen
@stuck moth won't be free for pubg today, sorry
stuck moth
no worries @gray aspen I think I overdosed a bit on it yesterday. after we played my friend came over and I showed it to him and played a few solo games
gray aspen
Nice, hope you enjoyed a chicken dinner one way or the other
spice moss
@polar wraith what a ending for the AustinGP
vestal phoenix
@thin canopy Sounds great! It's got a Monster Mash/Ventures/Doors vibe to it.
thin canopy
@vestal phoenix Thanks -- that was the intent. Something Retro TV Theme -ish was the target.
vestal phoenix
@thin canopy could be a theme song if they reboot The Munsters TV show.
polar wraith
@spice moss That was great!
spice moss
@polar wraith the penalty was right call
polar wraith
Yes, but Max still had an awesome drive
spice moss
yeah
@polar wraith kimi having glasses with him like those verstappen fans "deal with it" but Kimi trademark to look 😎
runic elbow
I have fallen into the trap that is Facebook games.
tiny moat
So after going to 3 different hardware stores+Walmart for antifreeze, I think I have everything to connect my JSM to my water chiller with a higher through put than when I had it configured for the ISI. Hopefully.
vestal phoenix
anything special about the antifreeze or you needed a 55 gal drum of that stuff?
thin canopy
Will this become a closed loop system now?
tiny moat
@thin canopy Yeah, the antifreeze should let me go closed loop. @vestal phoenix I will loose a bit of heat transfer performanc by using automotive stuff, but it should also reduce corrosion slightly. If I can't get what I need from it, then I will switch to something the manual recommend.
Closed loop should help preformanc out as well.
tiny moat
So the gfci tripped on the water chiller. This is going to be fun.
tiny moat
This water chiller has a problem somewhere, resistance hot to ground is at a 12m ohms. I am not liking this thing very much.
spice moss
that is also kinda used in PC liquid cooling systems
grave crest
Offtopic rant....it's really challenging to find a label maker that doesn't have excessive unused space before & after what you've typed.
Which is how they get you for refills.
vestal phoenix
Adabot wants to be a bus pirate again.
indigo jetty
@grave crest I have a dymo one thats plugged into my PC that isnt too bad
still has a bit ok
But you can also buy 7M refils on aliexpress for $4 delivered
how good they will be i dont know
grave crest
@indigo jetty I didn't think about buying 3rd party refills...thanks for the idea. Of course, buyer beware.
indigo jetty
I bought some this week so I'll let you know it 2-12 weeks time
grave crest
hahaha, that's the case with a lot of these sites.
indigo jetty
managed to do a live stream from home today using cell phone data
worked ok i think, could be better but at least its a possibility
vestal phoenix
@indigo jetty only good if you have unlimited data plan.
grave crest
I see a lot of twitch streamers using mobile devices for IRL streams. As nice as it is, I gotta ask....how badly do they pay for burning through that much data?
Also, recording in public opens a whole can of worms, from a legal standpoint. (I'm not a lawyer either.)
indigo jetty
Im on an unlimited plan
Its odd, its a phone simcard in a 3G/4G modem
but if it was to buy a "internet" sim card it would be way way more expensive and not unlimited
Yeah im just using it becuase my upload on my DSL line is 0.4Mb
grave crest
ewww.
indigo jetty
this is around 2.4Mb
grave crest
I'm sorry Brian.
grave crest
I mean, want me to run two cans and a string? That has to have higher bandwidth than 0.4Mb....
indigo jetty
just for better upload
the download is ok, 7Mb
like its usable, but not for video or live streaming
I can consume fine, once no one else wants to use it 😛
(by video i mean video calls)
YT, Twitch, netflix etc is all fine
The mobile data has two advantages, one it has better upload. But also its a dedicated line for me
so my Girlfriend can still watch netflix etc and it doens't impace
Its only E20 a month too
runic elbow
Anyone know how I can get each and every individual sound that the Zizzle IZ makes? For the project.
thin canopy
@tiny moat something inspiring from the Lab just 'round the bend from here. Scientific images as art. https://www.facebook.com/pg/PNNLgov/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10155127982324372
tiny moat
@thin canopy I am glad to see SEMs properly represented.
@thin canopy @polar wraith I found the problem.
polar wraith
Ewwwwww!
thin canopy
Gunk! (Not the good stuff.)
spice moss
gray pilot
@spice moss Hmmmm, that's kind of creepy.
spice moss
think costume what you make
spice moss
sleek urchin
stuck moth
I got a code for it with my graphics card. not sure I'll play though
proven olive
At least if you give it a try and don't like it you haven't wasted money
blazing pond
ahh, a fresh install of Windows on a new, larger SSD. Simple pleasures
grave crest
@blazing pond I've been running an OSX install for four years -- which included two OS upgrades. I've been considering doing the same on my end....the brand new car smell, right? 😉
blazing pond
It's like it undoes all the mistakes and cruft I've built up along the way that have carried over through updates
runic elbow
I just found out about Remix OS and OH MY GOD I need some o' dat.
blazing pond
I tried it on a flash drive. Can confirm: neat stuff
if it worked on old AMD E350 APUs I'd have a perfect kitchen PC for it
runic elbow
You think it'll work good on 512 Megs of RAM and a 1.8 gigahertz CPU?
blazing pond
what CPU specifically? Guessing by the RAM that'd be a Pentium 4 or similar era Celeron
runic elbow
The machine doesn't say.
blazing pond
Got a model number for the machine or anything?
runic elbow
I know the specific brand. And what the machine is.
And who made the mother board.
I mean like, the specific brand of the machine.
blazing pond
Sharing any of those details would help me figure out what the processor could be, and then look that up :v
runic elbow
It's a Microlink Touch, and the motherboard is made by Asus.
blazing pond
welp I can't find any info on that PC
runic elbow
That's fine.
I guess the only way to know is to try it out.
Wait, apps can be installed on the Xbox One? Like, computer apps?
Or is Kodi talking about the original Xbox?
blazing pond
Right now they're just Store apps, but yeah
Xbone runs Windows 10
like, legit the same Windows 10 as desktop
soft thicket
Splatoon 2 is awesome :3
runic elbow
I would imagine.
grave crest
I've heard good things about it...the Nintendo Switch is gaining momentum, albiet at a snail's pace.
I wish Nintendo nothing but the best....and a heartfelt desire to increase production runs 😉
runic elbow
I would get one, but I'm still happy with my Wii for now.
If I could find freaking batteries for the Wiimote
grave crest
Eneloop AAs are rather solid. And rechargeable.
tiny moat
My water chiller is down, and I really want to try and have a working SEM on show and tell... So garden hose time. Shocking, it looks like I only have one leak on the supply side!?
gray pilot
@tiny moat LOL, Same thing happened to me once in the lab at work. My boss didn't know what I was going to do for the demo. So at lunch, I ran out to Ace Hardware and bought a garden hose, hooked it up to a water fountain, and had the demo.
Got my budget too.
thin canopy
@gray pilot @tiny moat Sounds very familiar. Been through that "process" many times. Adapt.
tiny moat
This thing just never ends.
thin canopy
@tiny moat High tension or regular wire?
tiny moat
@thin canopy Regular voltage, high temperature. I have a spare I am putting in.
thin canopy
@tiny moat That looks rotted (heated and chipped). Bummer when the insulation starts to get granular and not flexible.
tiny moat
@thin canopy it's very soft still, it was just rubbing up against a hard edge.
thin canopy
@tiny moat That's relatively good news. Not systemic.
vestal phoenix
@tiny moat You have squirrels or raccoons as mini lab assistants?
tiny moat
@vestal phoenix This damage was done while the unit was still at it's old home (thankfully).
So in the comedy of errors that is my SEM, it looks like I now have a giant vacuum leak pump side of most if the valves. This is going to be a fun one.
humble talon
sigh
grave crest
@tranquil sedge @stuck moth Thanks for your help with the Macbook info. After thinking about it, I think I'm going to wait for a possible Black Friday sale on the 13" MBP (non-touch bar). The 12" MB just felt like it cut too many corners compared to the 13" MBP.
vestal phoenix
@grave crest If looking for the best deal, consider the refurbished models over on the apple site or Microcenter. A monster rig can get pricey.
grave crest
@vestal phoenix Absolutely, Apple's Refurb Store is top notch quality at a fairly good discount. Microcenter....I've been burned by their used/refurn stuff before, but I hope no one else has been impacted by something like that.
vestal phoenix
I bought a refurb laptop from MC for the kid to use, loaded up everything and find that the DVD drive was not DVD- CD/RW as stated in the listing when I ordered. The return to the store turned into one of those RadioShack experiences trying to explain what was wrong and telling them I can't exchange the laptop because all my licensed software was already on the harddrive. They would not swap out the CD writer with the correct one in the display model in the store. The manager finally agreed to get me an external CD writer in the end though.
grave crest
I mean, I like the idea of Microcenter -- it's a great store in theory. Every time I've been to my local one in North Jersey -- it looks like a tornado hit it. Everything is a disaster, can't find a single thing, items strewn on the floor....
I've ordered Adafruit parts from the North Jersey, Queens, and Brooklyn locations -- online orders. Every time, they seem to have 50% of my order available...even though they have in-store stock indicators on the website.
I mean, I really don't like being negative. But I don't feel MC is a place I want to support when they behave like that.
So I buy direct from Adafruit! 😃
viral spruce
@tiny moat I may be getting an extra nexys2 FPGA devboard next semester when my uni. switches to new xilinx stuff, interested?
would rather it go to someone who wants to learn more
vestal phoenix
@grave crest Yeah, a brick and mortar Newegg. I shopped at the Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island and Yonkers MC looking for the Circuit Playground board. They had to fish them out of a misc bin on the shelf. I had a tough enough time trying to read their labels covering the package label to figure what things were. You have to know what you want going in there. It could be better.
proven olive
@grave crest I guess I'm spoiled in that the Microcenter "near" me is awesome, super clean, and every time I've ordered things they've had everything ready to go. My only complaint is that MicroCenter labels are SO HUGE
blazing pond
@vestal phoenix Yonkers, NY? When did you go that they weren't there? That's the one I go to and they're pretty prominently displayed.
vestal phoenix
this may have been a year ago for the CP classic, after checking online
blazing pond
ah
vestal phoenix
but I did get a 3D printer cheap there, they must have not known how to fix their display model.
blazing pond
dang, lucky
soft thicket
SWEETNESS!!!!!! thenheadphone audio on the switch still works even when plugged into the dock!!!
vestal phoenix
@blazing pond seems another demo model broke http://www.microcenter.com/product/435491/3D_Pro?ob=1&rf=Search+Results worth the price for parts alone.
soft thicket
I was just at a microcenter on monday!!!!
grave crest
@vestal phoenix Lucky on the 3D Printer 😃 I remember trying to snag some cheap/used Panavise tools from them, but no matter what they said they had in-stock, it wasn't to be found. Probably tossed in a bin somewhere.
vestal phoenix
They seem to have minimized the use of the security lockboxes where everything was stuffed in there but still, not a good shopping experience trying to search the wall of tiny pink parts bags scattered about and mixed in with the rest.
blazing pond
They just redid things for the holidays, I picked up a CPX the other day along with a few other things
the hobby electronics section was reorganized a bit a few months ago
dang I wish I could afford to pick up that printer
grave crest
I mean, I'm grateful there's still a large electronics brick & mortar store still left standing -- and even for consumer electronics-- more competition is better for us consumers.
But they really tend to be a last-resort. And I do price-check them compared to Amazon, B&H, Newegg, etc for larger computer components. My last desktop (2013) was built with a Microcenter-sold CPU. Beat the competition by over $30 (post-tax).
vestal phoenix
Yup, you go there to showroom products and buy online. An issue that big box stores need to overcome.
runic elbow
When a company dies, how long does the patent on one of their products last?
vestal phoenix
@runic elbow Use the Google-force. https://www.upcounsel.com/how-long-does-patent-pending-last
runic elbow
Thank you.
vestal phoenix
also "A U.S. utility patent, explained above, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted."
of course, I am not a lawyer, seek professional counsel in matters
stuck moth
@runic elbow usually companies sell patents when they are dieing too.
sleek urchin
free game alert https://www.humblebundle.com/store/guns-of-icarus-online
gray aspen
ta
gray pilot
Here's a frickin coincedence that took me a couple hours to debug. When I happened to flip the switch on my project, the florescent lighting in the ceiling went out. Darkness! What? Switch on, switch off, darkness. It just so happens the ballast in the fixture popped at the same time I turned on my CPX. No connection what-so-ever. Beleive me, I was scratchin' the Ol' knoggin for a while. 😃
grave crest
Correlation vs. causation 😃
runic elbow
I THINK I'm improving. Just a bit.
Maybe for practice, I'll recreate Floral Fury from Cuphead.
thin canopy
@gray pilot Does CPX have a new EMP sensor/transmitter? Cool. 😉
spice moss
radiant locust
Cool
sturdy oyster
Anyone have any recommendations for soldering iron tips? I have the weller wl100 station (http://www.weller-toolsus.com/weller-wlc100-solder-station-40w-120v-w-st3-tip.html). It works well, but nowhere around here sells tips that fit it, so I have to buy online and the descriptions are usually not very helpful. I wish they would do the tips like router bits/endmills where you get a shank diameter/length to go by.
blazing pond
http://www.weller-toolsus.com/where-to-buy suggests some Ace Hardware and Amazon stores, plus a few others
Looks like your iron takes Weller ST1, ST2, ST3 ... ST8 tips
sturdy oyster
Thanks @blazing pond That's sort of why I am posting. I just got back from my local ace hardware, and they have nothing that fits (I've checked three so far). Home Depot doesn't either...Radioshack? Radionope lol.
blazing pond
Well, like I said, Amazon store :v
Looks like a search term of "Weller STn tip" where n is a number from 1 to 8 works great
ST3 is the tip it came with
It's in the description of the listing for your station https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AS28UC/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_2_w
If you were to get a selection, the ST2 looks like the most useful general purpose hobbyist tip
sturdy oyster
Thanks. I'll try it again then. Maybe they just sent the wrong one last time (I ordered the ST7). I'll give the ST2 a try...it looks like the tip I want
runic elbow
Oh my.
vestal phoenix
Jumped in today and splurged on a shiny new Circuit Playground Express. Would not have happened if I did not comb over every inch of that shelf. Can you spot them?
stray wind
@vestal phoenix Upper left? Also, congrats!
lost condor
Welp, while I wait for ffmpeg to compile on my RPi, how's everyone doing?
Long time, no talk, I miss you folks.
vestal phoenix
@stray wind Yeah, was used to only Adafruit stuff packaged in those little pink bags or black boxes. Didn't expect to have to look that high for good product placement.
lost condor
@vestal phoenix Your Microcenter is much better maintained than mine.
I was there today and the "boards" area was pretty sparse.
Also, they only had a single LoRa feather, which is kinda silly since you often need two.
vestal phoenix
They show up as in stock in the website, the trick is to find them at the store
@lost condor You doing video conversion on a rpi? Isn't that kinda slow compared to a full size machine?
lost condor
Yeah, but the camera is on the Pi. 😄
So that's where the conversion is going to happen
vestal phoenix
ah, even trying to do small video on mac is slo
lost condor
This is a Pi 3 so it should be OK, but just about to run the first test. Let's see how it goes.
vestal phoenix
was tempted to get the cheap pi zero W for $10 but I went for the CPX as a new toy.
lost condor
I almost got the Pimoroni Android Things hat for a new toy, but decided to finish the project I'm working on first. 😄
cursive pike
Alas, I have a problem with not letting outstanding projects prevent me from buying new toys.
gray aspen
make sure you have active cooling on the pi 3
spice moss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeQMVKxnwY Happy Halloween guys
cerulean badge
question for y'all: flapjacks vs pancakes: same thing?
sturdy oyster
same thing
sleek urchin
vestal phoenix
@cerulean badge grinders, subs, heros, dagwoods: same thing?
also, ya'll and y'all
cerulean badge
y'all is short for you all, so clearly y'all is the only correct one
but, they're all sammiches to me
sturdy oyster
y'all is short for ye all. It is said to have originated from the Scotish immigrants to the appalachian region of The U.S. Same with redneck, hillbilly, and several other southern terms.
stray wind
The Holler!
vestal phoenix
metric
stray wind
The guy who invented Esperanto would agree with you.
cerulean badge
and I think he'd be just about the only one
vestal phoenix
klingon
sturdy oyster
igpay atinlay
stuck moth
anybody around for some PUBG? <@&355854283410898955>
blazing pond
Nope, buying a 3D printer!
stuck moth
that sounds fun @blazing pond !
indigo jetty
I could play a couple @stuck moth
meant to be playing with others later but not sure when
stuck moth
@indigo jetty ok I'll fire up the compy!
indigo jetty
Gaming1?
stuck moth
yup yup, shortly
vestal phoenix
@spice moss Happy Halloween to you and everyone too. https://youtu.be/OOatrc9rjWo
lost condor
@gray aspen Thanks for the info about the cooling, but right now I have it sitting outside in a high tech enclosure made out of a cardboard box and it's in the 30s here. Luckily temps haven't been a problem. 😄
gray aspen
@lost condor Ah, so you're using it as a heater? 😉
lost condor
😄
indigo jetty
I'm amassing a giant collection of cheap power banks
They are €1.50 each
Only 1200mAh, but even the charge/boost circuitry for that price isn't bad!
Even comes with a cable! (although it's terrible)
I'm using it for the neopixel wedding table centers, got over 6 hours from the two combined cells
polar wraith
@vestal phoenix Getting to the conversation late. Grinders are broiled to melt the cheese, subs are cold, Dagwoods are big club sandwiches, and it's "y'all", the plural of which is, "all y'all."
ancient rivet
@indigo jetty have you seen this? https://learn.adafruit.com/sipping-power-with-neopixels/overview
(trick for extending battery life)
indigo jetty
@ancient rivet thanks for the guide I had not seen it! Looks really good!
grave crest
Totally off topic: Star Trek Discovery (ST:Disco) I think has hit its stride. They just did a time loop episode (a sci-fi staple storyline). It was executed really well -- using the sci-fi as a vehicle for interpersonal interactions...something ST is applauded for doing.
Also, the ship's crew has t-shirts printed with "DISCO" on them. That's so rad.
spice moss
power of gods
elfin wave
I still need to watch discovery!
and also to check in here more often 😃 work's been bonkers.
spice moss
I going to watch latest Star Trek discovery episode
grave crest
Enjoy 😃 I didn't spoil anything above, btw.
runic elbow
https://youtu.be/kGiYxCUAhks That spooks shall begin.
tender nimbus
@indigo jetty Nice....Project
indigo jetty
I'm going to be streaming later if anyone fancies stopping by!
runic elbow
No idea who made this, but I love it.
indigo jetty
Starting in about 2 hours time, if my internet can keep up :)
Also on youtube if people prefer
grave crest
I just noticed that half.com was retired. What a shame...great competition for amazon's used books listings.
(this happened on Aug. 31st -- clearly without much fanfare, didn't even notice it until now)
vestal phoenix
@grave crest If you are into books, I would recommend you go to one of those library-book sales-faires . They have some great finds there. Look at booksalefinder dot com for events, the bigger and better ones are in CT.
grave crest
It was nice just having a counterpoint to Amazon's used marketplace. A way for me to compare used prices on a number of books easily. The more competition, the better for the consumer.
vestal phoenix
I'll tell you, the college textbook market is still a racket.
grave crest
It always is.
I'm thankful I don't deal with that anymore.
It's only worse in the digital age -- online components that are limited use/time-locked. Forced textbook rentals.
I encourage the youth of america to get what they want out of college. It really is a unique experience. But most importantly, they get -out of college-.
I was lucky (low amount of loans, good employment).... and it took me nearly 8 years to pay off my debt.
fair summit
@grave crest I use these sites for comparison among used sellers: http://www.addall.com/ http://www.bookfinder.com/ A lot of these sellers are on Amazon, but not all.
gray pilot
@grave crest Me too, 7 years at $62.65/mo. and worth every penny.
Of course that was 1977 - 1984.
Things are a bit different these days.
BOY are they different.
grave crest
Try close to $500/month
And like I said, I was VERY lucky. It easily could have been 4x that amount.
indigo jetty
It was an eBay company right?
grave crest
I aggressively paid that burden off, after sticking with a job I didn't truly enjoy (but paid well)..which it ruffles my feathers a tiny bit when I hear youngsters demanding their debt be forgiven "just because".
@indigo jetty Yepper
But not an auction-based business.
indigo jetty
Student loans is something I struggle to get my head around
Fees for college /University in Ireland basically don't exist in comparison
2k per year I think (they have risen since I was there)
Government will pay for citizens fees above that, so doesn't matter if you are doing an economics degree or something more expensive like medicine it's the same
But even without the subsidy it would be maybe 8k a year for engineering
Computer science graduates get paid a good bit more in the US than here, and you pay less tax
So I guess everything probably balances out eventually
gray pilot
My two boys went to U of I and we now have $1600/mo. Way out of control.
indigo jetty
That's crazy
grave crest
I had around 40k of debt. I went to a private school, which are MUCH more expensive in the states than a state school. 40k of debt is nothing. I aggressively competed for scholarships, obtained grants and low-interest federally-backed loans (no private loans).
For comparison, one year of schooling cost ~40k.
After I graduated, I worked -hard- to whittle down my debt as fast as I safely could. I kept 10-15k in my bank acct as a "rainy day emergency fund"....and every penny after that went to my debt.
indigo jetty
In my final year of college after that 1k fee (at the time it was 1k), I think including accommodation I spent 500 euros a month or so on college. But it was living as cheap as possible as times weren't great money wise (2008)
grave crest
First 3 years after graduation I only made basic payments...but after that, in the last 4-5 years, I was able to aggressively attack that debt.
indigo jetty
40k, that's so crazy to me, I can only imagine the pressure that puts people under
grave crest
40k is nothing. I had peers with over 4x that amount. In private loans, which MUCH higher interest rates than 2-5%
indigo jetty
Me and my girlfriend had a nice rainy day fund for the last few years something that is very important to me as my dad invested all his money he made into property and got stung very badly, which is something I never wanted to happen. We have used some of it for our wedding though
grave crest
When I was in college (2003-2007), I worked as an RA (room and board and books coverred) and sold used TVs on the side (CRT TVs...this was before LCDs took over)....I bought them from an electronics recycler, and resold them on Craigslist for some extra spending cash.
indigo jetty
Even still though, we don't have any debt at all, which is also important to me!
grave crest
If I didn't, I'd easily have an extra 10k per year additional to pay.
indigo jetty
That's awesome @grave crest
I repaired Nintendo ds and other consoles during college as my side earner
Bought lots of them for parts from Ebay us too as the exchange rate was very favorable and they were region free
grave crest
It's a hustle, but it keeps a little bit of cash in the pocket.
It's so easy to slip....to think "well I'm already in SO MUCH debt. I can't even see sunlight anymore. What's the harm of a little more?"
indigo jetty
The only thing I ever hope to borrow for is a house
grave crest
My program was a 5 year program. I NOPE'D right outta that, did everything I could to make it a 4-year. My federal loans only covered four years....the 5th year would have decimated my wallet.
indigo jetty
Our college is a lot more structured than yours is from what I can gather
There is no picking up modules or whatever
grave crest
Oh ours was structured....very much so. I just manipulated and weaseled and bargained my way to make it a 4-year.
indigo jetty
If your first year computer science your doing this set of classes
grave crest
Brought in AP credits, did classes alongside a co-op, co-ops + classes during the summer, etc.
I don't take "no" kindly, when it's a $40k "no".
grave crest
"You're not allowed to do that."
....watch me.
I'm "paying" 40k a year to your institution. I'm going to get what I need, in the way I need it.
lol. I'm a trouble maker.
indigo jetty
In other off topic news, I'm pretty certain I'm suffering from caffeine withdrawals
I think I was drinking too much in work
So I've cut it out
indigo jetty
I was feeling pretty unwell in the evenings and weekends
When I wasn't drinking much at all (compared to work)
grave crest
I'd say instead of a cup of coffee, have a cup of green tea instead. A fraction of the caffeine with a ton of healthier benefits.
indigo jetty
Yeah that's what I've been doing, but I think I'll have a week of hardtimes
It's crazy the effect it has on you
The thing that bothers me the most is "fogginess", it's super hard to concentrate!
grave crest
Hmm, that happens as I get older...stress, age, etc. Forget about caffeine intake.
I used to pride myself in hunkering down and really studying a topic for hours on end.
Now, I'm lucky if I get 2 hours consecutively, and they're certainly not as intensely productive.
"This online course will take ~10 hours per week of effort, plus lab time."
So, which 3 days do I not want to sleep....hmmm....
gray pilot
Getting older? Now there's a topic I can talk about.
The only good thing about it is that it makes for a good excuse.
grave crest
Slipping on the ice as a kid? Pick yourself back up.
Slipping on the ice as an adult? Call out for 2-3 days because you can barely move.
indigo jetty
Your as young as you feel
gray pilot
As a kid, ya slid on purpose.
indigo jetty
I feel pretty old right now 😂
I miss being fearless
In some ways
Like skiing when I was a kid, jumps bring them on! Skiing as an adult, better take it easy!
grave crest
Memory starts to go too. Anything I don't have to actually remember, I document.
gray pilot
What?
grave crest
I have a finite amount of space in that echo chamber on my shoulders. Put something new in, something has gotta go.
indigo jetty
Remember that time I took the wine tasting course and I forgot how to drive?
gray pilot
Wait till you forget your married.
grave crest
lol
indigo jetty
I don't think she'll ever let me 😂
grave crest
Happily single. Cheaper that way.
gray pilot
@grave crest You have no idea how much cheaper...
vast condor
💍
gray pilot
D day?
sturdy oyster
Realistically, here in the states, if you can hold a B average during High School, you can go to a lot of very good state schools practically for free
indigo jetty
Getting married on the 17th of November @gray pilot
gray pilot
@indigo jetty Congrats. Big move. Good move. Have kids. They're sooooo cool.
vast condor
@indigo jetty and I just switched order
He's got a kid and is getting married soon. I got married, now I could have a baby any day now
There's no way the baby won't be born by the 17th though lol
vast condor
Thanks @indigo jetty!
indigo jetty
Just a heads up that I found the first few weeks quite hard, and you'll have everyone telling you it's the greatest thing ever, and I that made it even harder.
Hopefully it's different for you. Not looking for any sympathy or anything I know I got the easier end of the stick when it comes to the gender game for babies but it was just very tiring to go to work, do whatever shopping and cooking needing to be done, give me mammy a break (normally when baby was crying). And then at the weekend when you want to do nothing, mammy wants to do anything!
From talking to people since, it's not uncommon and for me once my daughter could smile back at me everything got so much easier! (and when my girlfriend could drive again!)
Not trying to scare you or anything, I just never really see anything along those lines and I remember feeling bad about it.
gray pilot
@vast condor Warning! When your child arrives, be aware, there is no, I repeat, no switch to turn it on or off. 😃
I'm sure @indigo jetty will confirm this phenomenon.
vast condor
Haha noted from both of you.
I'm grateful that'll I'll at least have 2-3 weeks off work.
gray pilot
Wooo, 2-3 weeks because........
vast condor
Im allowed to take off up to 6 months, but I only get paid for what I have in vacation time.
Unless the Dr writes something, then I can use sick time.
gray pilot
Oh, I see. That's a lot different then when we had kids.
Times change.
Which is fine.
vast condor
Yeah. It's pretty cool more places are offering stuff like that
It's becoming much more common
gray pilot
Good, because there is nothing more important especially at this, shall we say, boot-up time?
vast condor
Yeah, for sure.
gray pilot
Remember to teach your children how to correctly spell "Dad". As mine will say "G", "O", "D".
indigo jetty
"A", "T", "M"
spice moss
'Q', 'U','A', 'N', 'T', 'U', 'M'
gray pilot
@indigo jetty No kiddin' eh? I hear ya.
spice moss
grave crest
I'm at work - can't watch it. Does it show anything of substance, or was it like the last preview of cryptic messages and just the gate spinning?
proven olive
I found that under a "Design Fail" heading
That is not a fail
That's perfectly accurate
humble talon
feels good eyeballing fit and tolerances just right https://streamable.com/rzpyq
its the small things in life
spice moss
Free Pizza for all
elfin wave
I just saw @stray wind is now red. Awesome!
keen hedge
I knew her BEFORE she was a big deal
gray pilot
Way to go @stray wind ! She help me out more than once. 🍸 Cheers. ><>
sleek urchin
well, huzzah, managed to order a SNES Classic at MSRP
(inb4 "why didn't you just use a Raspberry Pi?")
elfin wave
wow, that's impressive!
sturdy oyster
why is it that no matter what kind of jumper wire I am looking for (m-m, m-f, etc), it always seems like I can only find all the others?
ancient rivet
murphy's law (the forgotten law of thermo)
spice moss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wxOru3i2U my mystical horror 😄
spice moss
sleek urchin
hey, it could even run windows =p
it has the snapdragon 835
and it's probably only going to be $1200 =p
proven olive
Let's be honest, if anyone is going to buy a $1200 non-apple phone, it's going to be gamers
sleek urchin
the new Pixel phones get close
and here I am wishing there was a more solid <$400 market
still on my Nexus 5
proven olive
I'm running a Galaxy S4 Mini I got refurbished about three years ago.
sleek urchin
there are some interesting looking chinese phones in the <$400 market
I just don't know how they're going to be for, you know, malware, etc
I have no experience with DOOGEE brand devices =p
and Blu, which is run by an American company, is having all sorts of issues
proven olive
Blu? But they have their own theme song and everything!
icy spruce
I have to say this is enlightening... https://fs.wp.odu.edu/dwittkow/cats/
stuck moth
@gray aspen can I join PUBG after the live stream is over?
gray aspen
When's the livestream over?
stuck moth
I can switch comps now
gray aspen
Okay I have time for a game
stuck moth
👍
stuck moth
anybody else want to play pubg <@&355854283410898955> ?
fair summit
This is funny:
spice moss
@sleek urchin razer phone is $699 for EU and US
sleek urchin
okay, that's not terrible spec wise for that price
that's actually pretty good
still approx. twice as much as I'd ever care to spend on a phone
spice moss
the phone have 120Hz screen
sleek urchin
1440p 120Hz, yes
spice moss
think about it its gaming monitor in the phone
sleek urchin
but I have no clue what media a Snapdragon 835 could render in that
is there a point?
spice moss
G-Sync monitor but made to phone
spice moss
with nvidia g-sync and made to the phone the screen sync with phone gpu
sleek urchin
except that's not going to happen
because that would involve a propritary Nvidia GPU
which the Snapdragon 835 does not have
spice moss
they made similar happen with qualcomm for phones
spice moss
still G-sync tech as it means screen refreshrate is in sync with the gpu
sleek urchin
No, it's very specific hardware that has to be used
Adaptive Sync is part of the VESA standard, on which AMD's FreeSync is based
G-Sync has specialized, expensive components that must be included in display controller designs
and only works with nvidia GPUs
spice moss
have you check laptops what have g-sync?
sleek urchin
they don't actually have gsync
spice moss
they have g-sync
sleek urchin
Nvidia uses "g-sync", but what they're actually using is adaptive sync
which is part of the VESA spec.
calling it G-Sync is purely marketing on their part, but it's nowhere near the same capabilities as the hardware solution in discrete monitors
spice moss
no it's real
sleek urchin
Even if you can sync the screen, that still leaves a weak mobile GPU to render all the graphics
It isn't a "mobile" GPU in the same sense as the discrete laptop variants.
spice moss
with monitor it need to have the hardware in it but as mobile it remove the monitor specialize hardware ini that as more direct path can be used
in laptop similar
it's in G-Sync spec
spice moss
plush musk
Here's an opportunity to get a poster of the original Lady Ada (and others) and support public radio and the Nerdette Podcast. https://donate.chicagopublicmedia.org/give/nerdette/
crude trench
Are you referring to the display connector, @lavish ridge ?
runic elbow
Floof spooder
lavish ridge
@crude trench no
ancient rivet
@lavish ridge vias?
plush musk
@lavish ridge Vias. The ones that look just like holes are probably connecting to one of the inner layers of the PCB; not the top layer that you are seeing. A can't find the PCB layout, but according to this forum post, the RPi is a six-layer PCB. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=43940
sleek urchin
I wonder if they have to use blind/buried vias, or if it's all straight through
gray aspen
sturdy oyster
Is Fusion 360 not free for hobby use any more? I just created a video using it, and when I went to find the link to add, I can't find the hobby/startup option on the site.
Found it. It's weird that they don't mention it on the main site anywhere that I can find, but apparently it is still an option when registering from the trial software
near moon
Coincidentally I was thinking this today (unfortunately still no Linux build), https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-activate-start-up-or-educational-licensing-for-Fusion-360.html
vast condor
@sturdy oyster some of the auto desk stuff got moved to tinkercad
Not sure that that did, but figured I'd mention it.
sturdy oyster
@vast condor interesting. I'll have to look at that, thanks. I've never messed with tinkercad, so I'll have to look at that.
vast condor
@sturdy oyster You're welcome! Yeah, I didn't either until they moved Circuits.io there.
crude trench
Gotta boast, usually I get like a necktie or some cologne or some socks for the birthday, but today, my daughter just gave me a gift cert for Adafruit. Wooo. Brilliant choice!
So when folks ask you what you want for Christmas, point them to Adafruit. Done.
vast condor
@crude trench I've just been asking for Adafruit gift certs the last couple Christmases, it's worked out great!
crude trench
Sweet!
grave crest
Yeah, I asked the parental units for a waveform generator for Christmas....they looked at me....well, like they normally do. That quizzial, puzzled look...as if a puppy heard a curious noise.
spice moss
tame saddle
@spice moss I got to mess with a HoloLens the other day at a conference. It's pretty good. Gesture is a little glitchy, but the headset was comfortable and the display is nicely done.
grave crest
Now we need a holodeck.
polar wraith
Aw, foo. I need to make four Raspberry Pi SD cards and I can't find the card reader. Which, of course. I will find now that I've ordered a new one from Amazon.... 😃
stuck moth
anybody playing PUBG today? <@&355854283410898955>
blazing pond
I could play later, hour or so
stuck moth
k, not sure if I'll be eating breakfast then. I'm free for ~5 hours or so
spice moss
@tame saddle next gen Hololens get even better with the view
polar wraith
Ooooh, built my computer vision platform from Adafruit this morning (Pi3, camera, Pimoroni PanTiltHat, and an Adafruit mini pan/tilt system). Pan and Tilt controls are working. Now I'll be distracted by OpenCV all day.....
sturdy oyster
Awesome @polar wraith ! Keep us posted. I'm looking at using a similar setup, except with a PWM driver in place of the hat. Are you using the official Pi Camera? If so, how are you mounting to the pan/tilt contraption?
polar wraith
@sturdy oyster The hat comes with a camera mount for the official Pi camera.
spice moss
I think still piCam isnt supported by Windows 10 IoT Core
sturdy oyster
Oh, well, there ya go. That's super handy @polar wraith . I was hoping you would say "Oh, there's this item on thingiverse..." 😃
I was really surprised to not be able to find a clip in piece for attaching the pi camera.
polar wraith
I know, right? I looked, too.
@sturdy oyster BTW, I'm going to be building the PWM driver version too, since this month's HackerBox was on OpenCV and has this really stout pan/tilt system included.
sturdy oyster
oh sweet!
polar wraith
@sturdy oyster This is really easy once you get the libraries and dependencies installed. I have the pan/tilt system working, and my Python control program can take a picture and import it into OpenCV. Now to work on the image recognition parts!
lost condor
Neat
polar wraith
Oooh, just had a thought. I can get an Adafruit light sensor and use the light levels and color values to set the white balance and ISO programmatically! #ScopeCreep
stray wind
@polar wraith Fancy stalking! 😉
polar wraith
@stray wind Yeah kinda sorta, isn't it? The really creepy one was my rover, which I had programmed to take a picture if someone tweeted "take a picture" at it. It would then tweet back the image. I creeped out myself on that and turned it off. 😃
stray wind
@polar wraith You know it's bad when you creep yourself out.
polar wraith
@stray wind Inded! LOL
stuck moth
@blazing pond I’m free for the next few hours if you wanna play
blazing pond
Yeah sure! <@&355854283410898955> Let's do some PUBG
stuck moth
K will go fire things up
keen hedge
@stray wind I made Stranger Things Christmas lights last Halloween that would blink out "Trick or Treat" repeatedly. My wife made me turn them off because they creeped her out. This year I added SMS support but they only blink if someone sends a text, so she let me keep them up.
stray wind
@keen hedge lol yeah! I saw them on Show and Tell! Somehow less creepy when someone's controlling them I guess, eh?
keen hedge
I dunno, maybe a little MORE creepy because you don't know what the message will be! But I think it was the (somewhat) constant blinking out of the corner of her eye that she found unsettling.
stray wind
Fair enough 😄
gray aspen
@keen hedge how can you say that without sharing the number to text to 😉
stuck moth
@gray aspen pubg?
gray aspen
😄
keen hedge
@gray aspen Ha! Good question! I did post to Facebook on Halloween so friends could text. I got a number of "likes" but only one text!
I even live-streamed it with the Stranger Things soundtrack playing so people could see their own messages.
stuck moth
@gray aspen we should wait to start the game shortly?
tardy pilot
So Im unable to upload to my Uno, anyone able to help
polar wraith
@tardy pilot I'll give it a shot. I assume you're using the Arduino IDE for this? Is it giving you an error?
Also, Windows, Mac, or Linux?
tardy pilot
Mac, I have a Elegoo Uno R3
polar wraith
Ah, ok. I'll see if I can help. Is it showing up as /dev/ttyA<something>?
tardy pilot
Haha found it out, it was the port
polar wraith
Glad you got it to work!
tardy pilot
Thanks man!
polar wraith
No worries. You did all the work! 😃
BTW, on my Mac the port often would spontaneously flip between 1411 and 1412, so watch for that if you suddenly have troubles.
tardy pilot
Ok
tardy pilot
Does anyone know anything about connecting arduinos and pis?
cursive pike
@tardy pilot I use I2C in one of my projects, and I’ve seen straight serial used as well. MagPi had an article on that in the Sept 2017 issue.
narrow steeple
So now that Halloween is over, I thought I could re-focus on my last “summer problem.” Basically the problem statement was, “why does my quadcopter randomly lose connection with the controls and fall out of the sky?” Used the phones camera and zoom feature and found the following which I’m sure some of you will relate to...
stray wind
@narrow steeple That'll do it!
stuck moth
<@&355854283410898955> anybody playing pubg?
grave crest
@stuck moth Do you play that on your macbook pro, or do you have a gaming desktop?
grave crest
Yeah, I've been toying with the idea of a windows gaming machine for a bit. My 2013 mbp chokes on Rocket League on minimum settings.
stuck moth
yeah, I've had a windows box just for gaming for ages
just updated it a few months ago
grave crest
It's a bit intimidating though, I've been out of the PC-building hobby for a long time. A plethora of choices makes for decision paralysis
And to be fair, most of my gaming is indie games and emulation -- the sort of indie games that are ported to ipad routinely.
(though back in the day, I was pretty solid on Unreal Tournament 2004. Won more than one LAN party tournament with Onslaught mode)
....goodness I feel old now.
stuck moth
😃
pc part picker is super cool
and I watched a number of tech deals videos
I have a friend about to build one and hes going with the new intel core i5
gray aspen
@stuck moth I'll see if I can bring in the other two gaming with me to this discord
stuck moth
@gray aspen k, I'll switch comps. I can go to different server if need be too
gray aspen
gonna finish a round with them and have them join @clear pier and @astral hull
stuck moth
k, I have to be ready to go leave in 90 minutes so I only have time for a couple games
clear pier
Hi
astral hull
Hi
stuck moth
hi hi
blazing pond
Hm. It would be really useful if the bot gave feedback about why it flagged your message for language. This is the second time I've been left thinking "I didn't swear, did I?" and not being able to review what I wrote.
Anyway, I am really plugged in to PC building and dang good at it, so if anyone ever wants help with parts picking, feel free to hit me up
blazing pond
Heck
grave crest
I've been flagged a few times, and I'm often left wondering....hmm. Did I let something slip? No, I'm usually pretty careful about what I say. Usually.
blazing pond
well the thing that sounds like the thing beavers build does it
sleek urchin
Double-U Tee Eff hits it. Unfortunately some acronyms have too many meanings
Who knows with bots though
grave crest
Robots, they mean well.
sleek urchin
but they'll snap your neck in a half second if you get in the way? =p
the cages are for OUR safety.
elfin wave
I'm reading Soonish which includes things on AI
it's a good book that I think people here would like
blazing pond
The language filter is especially rough because while I don't swear often, I'm used to communities where swearing as an intensifier is common
Like, living in New York :v
sleek urchin
Just have to remember that Adafruit also markets itself to a lot of younger folks as well
elfin wave
I got on the wait list for a digital copy of Autonomous from my library after an Adafruit post about it, and then forgot I did, and it came in tonight
sleek urchin
Give an 8 year old an Arduino... et al.
blazing pond
If it flies on Cartoon Network during prime time, it should be allowed, harumph harumph
elfin wave
yep! I'm good with not swearing, but the filter does get me sometime
I'm good = I'm fine with
not "I am proficient with", always 😃
sleek urchin
So many shiny tablets I want
Why do I want more tablets?
I only use mine for ebooks and emulation >_<
blazing pond
I even said "heck" the last time I accidentally touched my soldering iron tip
sleek urchin
h*ck
blazing pond
cr*key
sleek urchin
Gotta avoid the AvE-isms though!
blazing pond
Oh jeepers, yes
I do like the angry pixies, though. I use that more than magic smoke
sleek urchin
Nooo, must not buy vacuum tubes https://www.ebay.ca/itm/DIY-6J1P-Valve-Vacuum-Tube-for-PreAmplifier-Board-Headphone-Amplifier-Module/112486574842
tiny moat
@blazing pond It will filter out what it sees as a curse, even if it is in the middle of another word. It's basically just kinda good a playing regex golf. If you find something that you think it shouldn't be filtering, let us know.
blazing pond
Problem is it deletes your message, so I can't remember what I wrote verbatim very reliably
polar wraith
We can go look at the logs, @blazing pond
blazing pond
That's kind of a roundabout way to give users feedback, is all I'm saying
polar wraith
Aye,....
tiny moat
@blazing pond It doesn't actually tell us what it flagged though, it's kinda odd like that.
polar wraith
In this case you can kinda tell. 😃
blazing pond
.... What would happen if I changed my nickname to a filtered word?
proven olive
Do you really want to try?
blazing pond
I managed to resist temptation
proven olive
I have to admit, there have been more than a few times where I've had to adjust what I've typed for the chat room.
I sometimes get... verbose, especially when frustrated.
sturdy oyster
wanna see something funny? Open the emoji window, and look at the text for this one 💩
polar wraith
Holy smokes! 105 BILLION for Qualcomm?
@viscid folio I just read your old bio. I didn't know you were into glassblowing! There's an amazing Dale Chihuly museum here in Seattle....
ancient rivet
...and tacoma
runic elbow
So I got a new drawin program and decided to mess with it.
elfin wave
reality is an illusion buy gold byeeeeee
runic elbow
The universe is a hologram life is an illusion buy gold byyyyyeeeeee
gray aspen
watchdogs: free https://freetrial.ubisoft.com/promotions/watch-dogs-1/8/
runic elbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Ya57G8QVc So I made a little video about my current issue with Puppy Linux.
