general-chat

[raw jasper]

I'm guessing it's using GPT and they need to avoid spending too much on openAI API credits, so they have the wait in place to discourage would-be users?

[late fulcrum]

They already have the bot in place to discourage users from talking to actual people. I'd be happy to self service, but the site code isn't up to date and doesn't recognize the serial numbers of recent devices.

[raw jasper]

"As a Large Language Model, I cannot forward you to a human"

:P

[late fulcrum]

Please contact us. Don't really contact us. In fact, you can't contact us. We don't want your money. Go away.

FINE. I'll do it my way.

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/thermal-paste-mother-board-cpu-gif-17616659

(I love how cursed this GIF is)

[tame coral]

Can I make my mg966r into s continous Rotation servo (I dont want to redesign my whole model for an other motor)

[late fulcrum]

Modifying it like that seems kinda difficult. You may well be able to find another servo the same size and shape that can rotate more.

[tame coral]

I already have everything bought , are there any other ways?

[late fulcrum]

It turns out AdaFruit has instructions for modifying servos for continuous rotation https://learn.adafruit.com/modifying-servos-for-continuous-rotation/overview

[glad ruin]

And I believe it's deprecated.

[glacial wigeon]

what was the other name for wifi direct?

is it just ad-hoc?

[olive dome]

Is it? I thought it is used on VR now

[slim shard]

I prefer wires

[glacial wigeon]

same

but sometimes i just want to pick up a laptop and walk

in the past, i setup my laptop with fail-over based bridging

ethernet was primary, wifi was backup

when ethernet lost the link, it changed to routing over wifi automatically, with the same ip, so tcp wasnt disturbed

[slim shard]

I think I accidentally did something like that a couple times
but I was referring to the VR bit, fussing with batteries and everything being jpeg does not appeal to me

[glacial wigeon]

yeah

[late fulcrum]

Presumably the WiFi was bridged to the wired network.

[glad ruin]

Those are separate. Ad-hoc networks still use an access point and form a TCP/IP network. WiFi direct doesn't IIRC.

[glacial wigeon]

but i dont remember having to run anything like hostapd for ad-hoc

just set the mode to ad-hoc and set the ssid the same, and you have the equivelant of an ethernet cable

then deal with IP's

[raw jasper]

I remember that failing

I certainly needed to run some demons on one of the machines to get ad-hoc to connect and work

But I can't recall the details. I last did this 6 years ago

[raw jasper]

demons.... Now that's a term that doesn't go around anymore. Everything is a "service" these days

EDIT: Unless there is a bigotry-related reason for which the term is being phased out. In which case, forgive my ignorance and please let me know.

[frozen flame]

having some trouble with adafruit gfx, I allocated 150kb bits to a canvas. (320 x 240 x 2 is how i calculated it) yet seems i’m some how going over the memory limit of the esp32, which is 400kb heap

is this just memory fragmentation? I really don’t know what’s happening

[wooden ibex]

do i have to use mu editor im trying to make a release for the borad auto open when plugged in and all

[hard estuary]

You don't have to use Mu - any text editor works. Or if you're on a Mac or Linux, you can use tio in a terminal to connect to the REPL, too

[wooden ibex]

so i have the rotary trinky board and i want the code i made to run by it self so lets say i make a console app when dongle is plugged in auto run that app and store increments into a text file for another program the issue im having is rotaryai and board dir seems i cant just store that on the code that lives on the board

basially i cant get it to run with out mu editor beacuse of the rotaryio

that is baked in from circuitpython

im a web app c# and web dev so this is all new to me sorry

[hard estuary]

No need to apologize. Unfortunately I don't know the answer, if someone does they'll speak up when they're around

[wooden ibex]

understood. but did i explain that right like you see what I'm trying to do like lets say i make a c# console app in VS com i can release self contained sooo alll the dependencies and packets get wrapped in with the program

[edgy apex]

I ordered a new gizmo for my friends home assistant automated computer museum and it's just what we need. Simple reliable wireless buttons to prep/start the tour, activate the 2600 meeting mode and lights and whatnot. Up to 16 actions.
https://www.tindie.com/products/plab/home-buttons-mini/

The buttons I made were wired wifi buttons that didn't work where we needed them to so this should be a nice change of pace

[glad ruin]

Well, I don't know the specifics of that lib, but it certainly could be memory fragmentation. Usually frame buffers will be preallocated and fixed size though.

[rapid geode]

hmm

[patent hemlock]

bookmarked!!!!

[raw jasper]

Are you gonna control your band of homemade robots with it?

[patent hemlock]

ALL THE THINGS!!!!I (I have one like it from a "commercial" vendor)

my domicile is kind of like the early tag line of the MCU (with Agents of SHIELD) -- it's all connected

[raw jasper]

Thanks for specifying that, because I'd definitely read that as the other kind of MCU that is mainly discussed here 😆

[patent hemlock]

oh, yeah, forgot about that 😏

of course, it also applies to MCU's as well -- there's a definite wifi cloud around here

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-iasip-charlie-conspiracy-gif-11562330

This is how I imagine you explaining your network :>

[late fulcrum]

There may be a way to do that by having the file system present an .INI file to autorun

[raw jasper]

^ I have no idea which message this is referring to

But I think autorun.ini has been dead since win8

[tardy badger]

ini files are still used in fpga 🙂

[raw jasper]

ini files are still used everywhere!

At least, before JSON ate their launch, for better or for worse

[glacial wigeon]

the rpi config.txt is also ini like, but with crazy conditional filtering stuff on top

[tardy badger]

I think ini files still have a strong use case for embedded

[glacial wigeon]

ive decompiled and read the rpi stage1 bootloader, and its ini parsing is very basic and easy to understand

when it encounters a [section] it will decide on if its enabled or not, so [pi4] is only enabled on the pi4

and then all further statements have no effect, until it finds another section

[tardy badger]

I also learned about ICF files when working with some NXP chips

[raw jasper]

the intel hex format dates from when intel was still a memory company and is still in use

And will probably never die

[late fulcrum]

Heh, I learned on Motorola S-records, but those aren't used much any more.

[tardy badger]

Back in the day when Motorola made a lot more chips than they do today

Which is interesting that Motorola spun out their semiconductor business into Freescale which was then bought by NXP

[raw jasper]

Are they even making any anymore?

[tardy badger]

Nope 🙂

They used to make so many of the semiconductors used in every day life

But they couldn’t keep up with intel and IBM at the time

[raw jasper]

I wonder if IBM are still making their own chips or if they've gone fabless

[late fulcrum]

They did take out some amusing attack ads after the Pentium bug, saying their chips had "not only a brain, but a conscience"

[raw jasper]

fun fact: the readme for prime95's torture test still calls out the fdiv bug

[olive dome]

IBM works with samsung for their current gen chips

but they are going to work with Japan for 2nm

[raw jasper]

Interesting

[late fulcrum]

I remember the S/T/I Cell/BBE was made in IBM facilities, but that was a few years ago now.

[olive dome]

what does S/T/I Cell/BBE mean?

[late fulcrum]

S/T/I is Sony/Toshiba/IBM, the consortium that produced it. The Cell/BBE ("BroadBand engine") was a multi-core PowerPC chip that ran the PlayStation 3, among other things.

Heh, "2nm". Chip feature sizing has left reality entirely behind at this point.

[olive dome]

Ah I see, yeah it was quite a few years ago

IBM keeps doing R&D for advance chip manufacture an license the tech for GF and samsung

They sold their fab to GF I think

Also GF sued IBM recently, lol. Because GF is not going to do <10nm development and IBM is working with Japan for the 2nm stuff that may or may not have use the trade secrets from GF

I feel like memory technology has found a good naming scheme for process, 1α, 1β, 1γ

[raw jasper]

how long did it take you to design this board?

[wooden ibex]

tried to real seial and it just doesnt wanna see it

only works in mu edit why is this

i get nothing from it

[raw jasper]

Are you reading the right serial port? Is the baud rate correct? Is the parity correct? Is the number of bits correct?

Have you tried with a "proper" serial terminal software, such as putty?

[wooden ibex]

yeah com5 115200

i will try putty

[wooden ibex]

how does putty work

[raw jasper]

FYI this is the official download page
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

If you downloaded it from anywhere else... Well, I hope you have good antivirus

[raw jasper]

https://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.78/htmldoc/Chapter3.html#using-serial

[wooden ibex]

whoops

lol

[rapid geode]

having some issues. ha. but when they actually get finished, they are really nice. but there is a 50+% failure rate (on 24 caps).

keep flying off the fixture

[tranquil swallow]

Comparable yield to tsmc 3nm

[rapid geode]

ha

[olive dome]

about a working day, the design is based on my NVMe NAS so it is pretty streightforward.

[fierce prawn]

Me testing my battery life for my esp-32

[fierce prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485680288123584525/1144931533799563396/IMG_20230826_174752.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485680288123584525/1144929090344849458/image.png

[fossil dawn]

You might be confused about the different ways to connect an SD-card with CircuitPython. So I made this handy guide:

[late fulcrum]

So did AdaFruit https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-microsd-spi-sdio/circuitpython

[fierce prawn]

1. What can I do with a 3 hour runtime

2. I calculated that time while sending http request and keeping the onboard led bright on for long time.
   Would the battery life be even longer during normal use without polling a http endpoint every second

[late fulcrum]

Although I'm tempted to show a country 2-lane road, and a 4-lane road with a toll plaza

[fossil dawn]

yes but that would be an actual maybe helpful analogy not a terrible meme 😝

[late fulcrum]

Still trying to figure out the significance of the yoyo (first I thought it was an arcade button, then I thought it was a spool of printer filament, which is also apparently in the gym pic: apparently I overanalyze everything and get off into the weeds, which can be a real hindrance in the kind of mindreading standardized tests popular in academia such as "grass is to diodes as concrete is to ?" or "what is the next number in this sequence?")

[fossil dawn]

well yes, it's a yoyo. I just thought of it when reading sdioio 😆

and sdcardio just the kinda garbage my brain comes up with

[late fulcrum]

I guess it could refer to the bidirectional bus (whereas SPI has a pair of unidirectional buses). But it's 4 lanes, so should be 4 yoyos? Oops, there I go again.

[fierce prawn]

So I just finished testing my battery
I have two questions

1. What can I do with a 3 hour runtime

2. I calculated that time while sending http request and keeping the onboard led bright on for long time.
   Would the battery life be even longer during normal use without polling a http endpoint every second

[late fulcrum]

Oh wow déjà vu!

[fierce prawn]

Well a 3 hour runtime isn't bad right?

[late fulcrum]

I don't know enough about the problem to say. I would guess that polling less frequently would save battery life, but there are a lot of variables, so the best way to find out is probably to try it.

[fierce prawn]

Well the polling I actually to a monitoring site that reports to me the uptime

If such extreme action have such high battery run time
Would normal usage be lower

[late fulcrum]

I don't know enough about the problem to say. I would guess that polling less frequently would save battery life, but there are a lot of variables, so the best way to find out is probably to try it.

[fossil dawn]

and I think there is a selection of different low-power sleep modes to lower power consumption when you're not transmitting or not doing anything

[wooden ibex]

guys this is driving me up the wall why cant i grab this information off the board in any other editor besides mu editor

[tardy badger]

I used to own this domain and now someone is selling it for $1,995

[blissful roost]

Ahh, gouging... love it.

[tardy badger]

Luckily the name I switched this to back in 2019 is still available

If I ever feel like trying to launch it as a business

[blissful roost]

I'm only holding a single .co.uk currently..
I might see if the .com is still available.

[tardy badger]

the domain oaksemi.com is owned by me, and is my most valuable domain

[blissful roost]

tee-hee

[tardy badger]

RIP Bob Barker

You’ll forever be immortalized by your fight scene in Happy Gilmore

But also the price is right

[rapid geode]

ha

99

remember to spay and neuter your pets

:x

[rapid geode]

i just checked the name for my keycaps and its available. gotta snap it up

[blissful roost]

👍

[blissful roost]

I had Lillie and Beau done as soon as it was viable..
I don't have the space or money for dozens of bunnies running around. 😅

[rapid geode]

ha

bob barker can rest happily then

[blissful roost]

No idea who that is.

[rapid geode]

haha

imagine if dale winton died at 99.

:x

haha

[tranquil swallow]

You don't make it to 99 without having to wear a diaper right

[blissful roost]

I'll ask my grandfather if he manages a few more years.

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/tribbles-star-trek-universe-gif-15358836

[burnt tendon]

Yeah, while Lapin á la Kriek is tasty, it just feels wroooong.

[dusty citrus]

I had to google
Never seen him before

[burnt tendon]

I'm expecting that kids these days who need to get off my lawn haven't heard of him.

[lapis anchor]

diy.zone is probably my most valuable domain, nospamplz.com is probably my favorite ;P

[rapid geode]

my company bought another company once that had a domain that is remarkably close to one owned by a well know psychotic billionaire. it seems it is treverted to the original person, but i wonder how valuable it is.

"Estimated Price: $3,976.00"

ha

meh

not enough to sell i guess

somehow i thought it would be more

ok nm, it says pizzahut.com is worth $4200.

clearly not based on any logic

[raw jasper]

I love how, out of all domains, you tried pizzahut.com

[tardy badger]

Cookies

Am cookie master

Which is one level before Cookie Monster

[blissful roost]

You made cookies... and I've already finished my beer.

Disappoint.

[tardy badger]

I don’t drink

😬

[blissful roost]

But you make cookies that I could have had with my beer..

[tardy badger]

Lol

[rapid geode]

bring to me cookies

[ebon dew]

🍌 bread yum

[rapid geode]

i demand banana bread

!!!

[ebon dew]

Well you're in luck because I plan on making 3 loaves.

Can you actually send food in the mail? I've never even thought of that.

Imagine there are likely regulations about it that I don't care to read.

[tardy badger]

You declare it perishable

[ebon dew]

Cookies would probably last better in a box than bread. Bread would dry out pretty quick.

[tardy badger]

Plastic wrap and then foil will allow it to travel

That’s how my mom would mail me pumpkin bread when I was in college the first time

Hmm.. it took a bit for that discord message to send

[ebon dew]

I've sent chex mix to family but that was in a ziplock bag. Hmm maybe a gallon sized ziplock bag might work.

[rapid geode]

i get sent pizzas all the time

[raw jasper]

I wonder whether one can make pumpkin bread in one of those bread maker machines

[tardy badger]

I wouldn’t recommend it

Not unless it has a setting for “wet breads”

[raw jasper]

Yeah, unless you don't plan on reusing the thing 😆

I imagine that, even if it worked, it would be an ordeal to clean

[tardy badger]

Which it’s weird to think about the concept of “wet bread”

[raw jasper]

Pie

Pie is "wet bread"

Or cake

[tardy badger]

Well, wet breads are considered breads that are leavened with other leavening agents

Pie are not wet bread, they are pies

Other wet breads include banana bread, zucchini bread, pound cake, cake in general. Cake is kind of it’s own special kind of wet bread though

[raw jasper]

(I was not being serious. I did not know "wet bread" was a legit term)

[tardy badger]

Christmas fruit cake is also a wet bread funny enough

[raw jasper]

Leavening agents that aren't yeast? Oh the humanity! :P

[tardy badger]

Lol

[raw jasper]

(Or bicarbonate of soda, if you want to be fancy and like that alkali taste)

[tardy badger]

Sodium bicarbonate, delicious

[raw jasper]

TIL that "〇〇〇〇 of soda" is actually a legitimate stand-in for "sodium 〇〇〇〇", not just a weird baking term

Or, at least, that's what my macbook's dictionary says

Using the example of "nitrate of soda" for "sodium nitrate"

[tardy badger]

Hehe

[raw jasper]

...Which, in hindsight, probably wasn't the best chemical to use as an example

Given how it's dangerous and there's a more common one that people use the 〇〇〇〇 of soda term for

Sodium bicarbonate!

Now I want cookies

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-sesame-street-cookies-gif-23021813

[rapid geode]

cooookies

[burnt tendon]

Sounds pretty basic, tho.

[patent hemlock]

dude...

[blissful roost]

Bruh...

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh424019499-gif-25675566

[edgy apex]

My dad is worried about flying with a home assistant yellow next month. He has TSA precheck and from what I can tell he won't even have to take it out of his bag. I would rather send it with him than ship the fully assembled yellow down there. It shouldn't be a problem, should it?

[tardy badger]

Traveling with its packaging and whatnot should be more than fine

Being clear and honest about it, ask questions when getting to security, etc..

[fickle aurora]

That was a concern from people at DEFCON this year as well due to all the people flying to and from it with exposed PCB electronics everywhere. As far as I know, very very few people got stopped.

[edgy apex]

This is the first home assistant I am doing completely remotely (without the possibility of driving there in 15-30 minutes) and will be the closest to a complete smart house that I've done. door lock, 6 ring devices, garage door, lights/outlets, sensors, thermostats, water heater and some other stuff. If I can get the zwave lock to work then we will use zwave devices otherwise it will be ZigBee. Everything is available on Amazon so it will be a game time decision as to which way we go, I got my wish lists made up, I taught my dad how to home assistant so he will be good to work with remotely

[patent hemlock]

good luck! HA has improved so much over the last couple of years, especially in the UI -- i actually walked my wife (definitely non-tech) through setting up a specialized button

[raw jasper]

Question: Does this "home assistant yellow" box remove the need for these devices to be connected to amazon's servers?

[patent hemlock]

none of the devices listed requires amazon - HA is all local

[raw jasper]

Wait, amazon ring does not need amazon?

[patent hemlock]

well, that does

my HA is all Zigbee, ZWave, and MQTT - not a single external service except for weather

[raw jasper]

That's how I'd do it, if I ever wired up a smart home

Too many horror stories with them cloud stuff

[patent hemlock]

yeah, i dodged two bullets -- first i was using Insteaon (SmartHome discontinued), then I was using Wink (there is a cloud nightmare), but Wink was my gateway to HA and happy camper for years

[raw jasper]

How are you controlling it? Remote control, or some sort of local voice recognition?

[patent hemlock]

web interface

phone app

[edgy apex]

One of my goals is to make it look like people are home/living there so that should be fun. Press the ring doorbell at night and random lights will go on lol. Lights on randomized schedules, etc

[fresh niche]

You made me imagine a rave party but with rgb home lights

[patent hemlock]

easy as pie

[patent hemlock]

that requires a bit more control - HA isn't quite that reactive 😀

[edgy apex]

I'm thinking sunset - 30 + random number between 1 and 30

[fresh niche]

So are you using it just for home automation or do you have a jeff geerling like setup were the HA is somehow interlinked with a nas?

[patent hemlock]

separate NAS, mostly because getting HA running on my creaky NAS isn't worth it (got a NUC that didn't work out on another project running my "server" stuff, including HA, MQTT, Kafka)

i could run HA via Docker on the NAS, but even the Docker version is stupid old

[fresh niche]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[tame coral]

Why is this considered 90 degrees from the servo

[patent hemlock]

i would disconnect the servo and use one of the stupid little arms and start running some calibration code -- you need to adjust the pulse-width values. i would recommend using the default and see where the 0, 90, and 180 points are, then adjust the pulse-width to a wider range -- i can help out a bit more of you're using Python since i just went through this with some new servos of my own

[late fulcrum]

I would also try repositioning the servo horn on the servo. The servo output is a splined shaft, normally a plastic actuator (known as a "horn") is attached to it, and then whatever the servo is moving is attached to the horn. By unscrewing the horn, you can pull it off the splined shaft and replace it at a different angle. This is how you configure what the actual angle is then your servo is at 0°.

[tame coral]

yes im using python

i put the servo at absolute zero

couldnt move ANY more

but instead of 90 degrees it does like 25 more or less

[patent hemlock]

there are two settings you need to make on the Servo object when you create it:

create the server with a full range expected myservo = servo.Servo(pwm, actuation_range=180)

adjust the pulse-width to a wider range (do this carefully or you can over-drive the servo and get into possibly Bad Things) myservo.set_pulse_width_range(750,2250) -- this is the default and it's not even close to being correct for even an SG90

the other thing to look for when you're at 0 and 180 is if the motor is getting hot -- that's a definite sign you've gone a bit too far

[tame coral]

I am using the mg966r servos, you think its possible to use 750,2250 as pulse width range

[patent hemlock]

if you haven't changed it, that's what you're using -- it's probably chosen because it won't immediately tank a servo when it's used 😏

i have no idea what a good setting for the MG966r would be

[late fulcrum]

I wouldn't use that range to start with. The old standard was 1000µs to 2000µs. I wouldn't go under 1000 or over 2000 until I'd verified the servo was capable of it. I generally start with a smaller range than that to avoid damaging servos.

[solar kindle]

Still playing around with code-generated keypads/keyboards. Latest is an alternate base that takes 6mm tactile switches (adafruit 367) instead of using crosspoint switches. Much nicer feel to it.

[late fulcrum]

I'm fond of code-generated objects in general, that's neat.

[solar kindle]

Next up is something halfway between the two. I've got a bunch of these metal domes on order. Just need to work out how to make them reliably connect 2 adjacent wires.

[rapid geode]

im gonna stick my ecobee in the shed, attached to some convectors. and i have some tp link light switches and an alarm. i want to connect them all to home assistant whihc can then email/text me notices. id like to do it with no cloud nonsense. just a server that can send the messages.

[patent hemlock]

sounds like a pretty simple wifi setup

[rapid geode]

yeah. the tp link dimmers only work with their app. which is bothersome. but the basic switches are home assistant compatible

eventually there will be a senville mini split in there whihc is im told more convoluted

it is wifi

[patent hemlock]

i'm basically running HA in a docker container with MQTT and the ZWave JS stuff, so it's pretty "portable" between hardware 😈

[rapid geode]

i also need a camera to monitor the cnc machine from afar. but that is kinda a separate thing. some sort of streaming server

[patent hemlock]

practically anything that can take USB would work or a pi with a pi camera (pi with web cam also works) - just off the top of my head you could probably run VLC in server mode

[rapid geode]

apparently i also need a new phone battery. sigh. this one is lasting 10 hours

anyhow. gotta rebuild the shed roof now. this will be much pain. 10 ft up, roof weighs 1000 lbs give or take.

[tame coral]

so i found that my max pulse for 180 degrees is 4140 and im using that value now to calculate any other angles

[patent hemlock]

🤯 that's ... large --- watch out for heating!

[tame coral]

its cold

[patent hemlock]

🤷 still seems odd -- i found one on-line reference for this type and the min/max they used was 650/2350 -- well, good luck

[tender heron]

Is it normal for a circuit playground express to get quite warm? After being plugged in via USB for awhile mine gets pretty warm. The onboard temp sensor starts reading 111F+.

[glad ruin]

111°F is not terrible.

[rapid geode]

finest quality premium lumber. straight within 45 degrees or your money kept

[raw jasper]

Yeah, it's a fairly complicated processor (ARM-based), so you can expect it to heat up more than simpler microcontrollers

[tender heron]

OK, yeah makes sense.

[raw jasper]

In general, more transistors active = more heat dissipated

[tender heron]

Yeah, I was comparing it more to the uno r3 which is a much simpler MCU.

[raw jasper]

Yeah, there is no comparison; I doubt the atmega MCU on the uno r3 will ever significantly surpass room temperature ;)

[glad ruin]

Oh it can if you are loading the I/O enough.

[glacial wigeon]

i think the traces in the chip also act sort of line capacitors
and changing a trace from low to high, requires (dis)charging that capacitor

and the current for doing that, will have waste heat, in both the traces and transistors

so clock lines, and logic switching on every clock edge, will be generating some waste heat on each clock

the bcm2711c0 added clock gating, which basically turns the clock off dynamically in various areas, which helps to reduce that

[patent hemlock]

well, you do apparently have a warped sense of humor, so... (dang, that's a heckuva twist)

[rapid geode]

.....

i wasnt joking. thats the best board in the pile of 100

just counted all my steel studs... i have enough to do this in steel. seeya twisty 2x4's 😛

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-funny-sorry-sir-doing-my-best-gif-12052920

[tardy badger]

I was looking at my network and noticed my Creality Halot One resin printer was showing up as a Foscam

[spice moss]

interesting

[tardy badger]

I decided to remove and block the device from my network for reasons

[raw jasper]

Is that intended by the manufacturer, or some sort of pwnage?

[tardy badger]

Just feels weird that the manufacturer ID from the mac of the device would match foscam

[tardy badger]

Two separate companies

It’s either a weird coincidence or something more sinister

I’d hope it’s a weird coincidence

[dusty citrus]

I am happy that finally it rains so it can cool down, but wow stuff is crazy

[raw jasper]

shrug perhaps they are using somebody else's mac address block because they didn't bother getting their own assignment?

[tardy badger]

Perhaps

Like I said, I hope that it’s a weird coincidence or just laziness

[raw jasper]

why not ask somewhere with a higher density of "Creality Halot One" printer owners?

[tardy badger]

I’ve been looking around the web and can’t find it appearing anywhere

I’m not sure if it’s being suppressed or people just have never looked

[raw jasper]

perhaps nobody bothered to check. Ask in some 3D printing discord

[tardy badger]

Or if it’s an instance of a “I don’t really care” thing

[raw jasper]

or perhaps it's randomizing its mac

[tardy badger]

Perhaps

Like I said, I hope it’s a weird thing that has a normal explanation outside of gubment surveillance

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-movie-projector-gif-19435282

[tardy badger]

They always are, especially me lol

[raw jasper]

I mean, the person picks the career path

[glad ruin]

It's not the government you have to worry about. It's Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Apple, ...

[spice moss]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-popcorn-watch-watching-binoculars-gif-5194937

[dusty citrus]

Same thing
Govs and corpos go hand to hand

[glad ruin]

The government needs a court order. The others need pervasive marketing.

[glad ruin]

The government still needs to have court documents in order to access it, unless it's the NSA.

[dusty citrus]

More than often they bypass paperwork

[glad ruin]

All I'm saying is that regardless of who is doing it and who accesses it, the devices that are the most concerning are the conveniences that people purchase themselves.

[tardy badger]

The government gets data by purchasing it

[glad ruin]

We're getting a bit off topic and possibly into political territory though, so I think we should probably drop it.

[tardy badger]

Anyway, just weird thing for my resin printer to show up as

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/office-cat-printer-play-silly-gif-17171927

In the meantime, here's a cute gif of a cat bapping at a 2D printer

[spice moss]

https://tenor.com/view/minimal-minimalism-design-render-gif-14826342

some times you need resin to make amazing art

[glad ruin]

That is different resin.

[tranquil swallow]

How do I scan the internals of an insert molded circuit

[glad ruin]

xray

[dusty citrus]

I am starting to think that I am cursed
Printer first day broke, pc broken, epoxy that I bought is rock solid,

[raw jasper]

You probably got a bad printer

[versed meteor]

sorry guys school got in the way of my security cam project but here's a demo of the servo

[versed meteor]

how is it?

[edgy apex]

Looks like a good demo 👍

Today I fixed my lk401-ea keyboard for my vt220. It stopped working/wasn't detected and I didn't do anything stupid this time. I opened it up and reseated everything I could and now it's working again. I'm going back to the Rhode Island Computer Museum in a few weeks so I'm gonna see if I can pick up an extra one and a C64 while I'm at it. I setup a pi zero w/serial hat that I can bring so I can test a keyboard before bringing it home.

[ebon dew]

Much of the S.E. US, say hello to Idalia.

We're in the average apex of hurricane season for the next 2 weeks.

[edgy apex]

Oi

[night crescent]

WE ARE LIVE! The Desk of Ladyada - ESP32-S3 RGB TFT Experimentation 🖥️💡🔋 https://youtu.be/-CgLnAP-sO4

[burnt tendon]

tl;dr: Keep your I out for Idalia if you live on the east coast.

[urban arrow]

Guys - if any of ya'll are using the TFT shield/joystick product 802, on a Metro ESP32-S2, I just found out after perusing the pinouts, that the CS and DC pins for the shield need to be:
tft_cs = board.IO15
tft_dc = board.IO13
I had to count down the pins to basically find out which correspond to D10 and D8 on other Metros... My 2 fave words, "It's working!"
I submitted the suggested Learn guide update.

[edgy apex]

I'm bringing back this POS system I borrowed from the computer museum, I borrowed it a few years ago, got the different hardware working and whatnot. I was thinking of running something on reboot that prints a receipt that covers the information about the device like username/password and different demo programs I have and what they do, I want to make it fun so I may record some audio like I'm trapped inside.

[ebon dew]

Idalia expected to turn into a Cat 1 overnight and for the next 2 days strengthen into a Cat 2-3 by landfall with Florida.

[raw jasper]

:\

[rapid geode]

category 1 is "normal day" here. sigh. haha.

hence:

new roof day

last one got blown off by said 100+km/h winds

[lapis harness]

I want to get an RFID implant...but I can't for the life of me figure out what to do with it

[tardy badger]

Car fob?

[lapis harness]

Probably wouldn't work with rolling codes and such

On a completely unrelated note...know of any small rfid readers? preferably on 13.25mhz?

[raw jasper]

I do not recommend getting any non-medically necessary implant. No licensed doctor will accept to do it, and there are all sorts of risks involved for something you can have in a card that you carry

[tardy badger]

There are generic ones approved for medical implantation that is usually done by licensed plastic surgeons

[olive dome]

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/21777

FYI

[tardy badger]

I wish I had the funds

As always with medical implants, talk to your doctor first

They can provide you with a referral to a licensed professional who would be able to do it, as well as provide you with a better understanding of risks of such implants

Most are benign, but many are used for tracking health telemetry

[lapis harness]

You mean I shouldn't go to my local hack shop? lol

[tardy badger]

Probably not 🙂

[raw jasper]

huh. I know there are biocompatible ones for pets, but I had no idea there existed licensed RFID tags for humans.

I cannot honestly think of any ethically acceptable use for them

[tardy badger]

RFID are often used for pacemakers

[lapis harness]

having an rfid tag in your hand that can't be stolen...at least not easily

[raw jasper]

Yeah, but that's not a separate implant lol

[tardy badger]

And other medical implants that are used for tracking health telemetry

[glacial wigeon]

ive seen some people load their creditcard into into an implant in the hand

so you can just mash your hand into the card reader to pay for things

[tardy badger]

Plastic surgeons will offer implants for like.. if you want your Tesla key in your hand, or credit card

[raw jasper]

O_O America is weird

[lapis harness]

I'm all for our cyberpunk future

[tardy badger]

Imagine high giving someone and accidentally Venmo’ing them your bank account balance

[glacial wigeon]

ive also seen a story, where a guy got drunk at a defcon, got an rfid implant, and set a password, so nobody else could set one first

[tardy badger]

It happens in Europe too

[glacial wigeon]

when he sobered up, he couldnt remember the pw

[lapis harness]

LOL that sucks

Hilarious though

[slim shard]

whatever happened to the small magnets in the fingertips idea?

[raw jasper]

And what happens when yer credit card expires? Get another one?

[lapis harness]

Still around...but god forbid you have to have an MRI

[tardy badger]

But I’ve mostly seen implantable rfid stuff happening in SE Asia

[slim shard]

I was just thinking in that direction

[glacial wigeon]

usually, its a r/w rfid chip
so you can copy your new credit card details into it

[lapis harness]

Yeah, can write and rewrite the tag

https://dangerousthings.com/category/implants/

[raw jasper]

Scar tissue forms around the magnet, and eventually it ceases stimulating the nerves

[lapis harness]

Something like that

[tardy badger]

Anyway, like always: consult a professional medical provider

[lapis harness]

Honestly I'll probably jsut get an NFC ring

[tardy badger]

I just use my phone because if I’m gonna be hacked, it’ll be because of a data breach and not something physical being stolen

[slim shard]

so the trick would be neurolink and a bluetooth magnetic sensor glove.... much safer! you're welcome! ;-)

[glacial wigeon]

until people start hacking your neurolink, and photoshop themselves out of your vision, lol

[slim shard]

reminds me of that Ghost in the Shell line about having their eyes stolen

[glacial wigeon]

yeah

though that was a diff thing, just stealing a copy of the vision, rather then modifying it in realtime, to make things invisible to you

[slim shard]

I think his vision was modified to hide a person or such, been a while actually

[glacial wigeon]

both forms where occuring in the same arc

[lapis harness]

https://dangerousthings.com/product/magic-ring/

Seems pretty legit

[raw jasper]

why people want to make themselves mri unsafe for a borderline convenience and no medical reason really is beyond me

[slim shard]

mri is an unusual circumstance, though obviously one of major concern

[lapis harness]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-leonardo-decaprio-because-its-awesome-gif-7735432

[glacial wigeon]

oh, that reminds me of a horror story
somebody had an "all silicone" "toy", when they entered an mri

surprise, it wasnt all silicone

[lapis harness]

Yikes

[slim shard]

here I was just amused that the thing was killing iphones, because hydrogen dumping or such

[glacial wigeon]

hydrogen leaks getting into the mems oscilators

[tardy badger]

I’m glad I only leak whatever VOCs, VSCs, and residual air my body can’t process

[slim shard]

I blame you for global warming....

[tardy badger]

All me

As Al Gore said once, it’s an inconvenient truth

[slim shard]

actually wasn't it actually the result of a reduction of pirates? correlation being causation and all....

[lapis harness]

Blogs that don't have the article published date have a special place in that firery place down below

[glacial wigeon]

some put the date right in the url!

[tardy badger]

I tell ya, I wish I could make a $30 fpga dev board and still make money like tinyvision.ai

UPDuino is a cool little fpga board that sells for $30

https://lectronz.com/products/upduino-v3-1-low-cost-lattice-ice40-fpga-board I’m guessing they can buy thousands of components at a time to make the costs insignificant

[raw jasper]

so, ~10$ cheaper than the icestick..

[tardy badger]

Yeah

The person who made them is in the 1bitsquared discord and mentioned that they had to do quite a bit of work to get the price down to that level

[wheat peak]

hey guys what the heck is the eddy current constant

google isn't helping

nevermind i got it

[vagrant wolf]

sneak peek of the new teensy 👀 😄

[worthy magnet]

this is excerpt from MCP23S17 datasheet

but this does mean that I need at least 4V to reset IC when powered from 5V?

oh wait

it's schmitt trigger

what would happen if it's >=0.2Vdd, but <=0.8Vdd?

apparently I completely forgot about hysterisis

[ebon dew]

5am Idalia becomes a Cat 1 hurricane. Strong eyewall formation. 981mb pressure.

[late fulcrum]

Since that's outside the hysteresis area, it would presumably continue to be interpreted as a logic low.

[worthy magnet]

Yeah that's what I figured

Oh oops it's all hysteresis again

[tranquil swallow]

any idea what this would be for, tried googling it but nothing came up

[slim shard]

"Some people would really like me to say the word hysteresis.You're welcome!"

[rapid geode]

just a guess, but maybe apple bender dev board

[edgy apex]

For about an hour I thought I had killed my cm4 module then I tried a different power supply and that fixed the problem, it must have died cuz it was working yesterday 😅

[late fulcrum]

From the caption, I'm guessing FPGA development

[tardy badger]

This is a good joke:

[raw jasper]

I honestly am not getting this one :(

[fossil dawn]

||proper gander||

[blissful roost]

hahahaha

I am not ashamed to admit I got that without the spoiler. 😂

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-honk-inhale-inhales-untitled-gif-16237480

[glad ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bucket-tf2-meme-soldier-in-human-thoughts-gif-15246756

[ebon dew]

I'm living streaming the hurricane if anyone wants to check out the fusion of OBS with Adafruit PicoDVI & AdafruitIO overlays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL0H2XMqCJw

Using BME280, AHT20, DPS310 stemma sensors for local data.

[patent hemlock]

GOOD LUCK!!!!

[tardy badger]

I saw it could be a Cat 4 on landfall, even though you’ll probably only experience maybe up to Cat 2 winds, stay safe

I remember riding out Jeane back in 2004

Good times

[patent hemlock]

my grandparents lived on the texas coast. in a trailer. 1/4 mile from the water. i picked up after a lot of storms -- they are to be respected

[ebon dew]

Cat 3 and below are not that big of a deal especially one that's moving pretty quickly like this one. It'll be over by morning, in FL anyway.

a Cat 4 is concerning, Cat 5 and I'm in my bathtub.

[tardy badger]

Well, let’s hope it moves fast and doesn’t do the old Florida stall

[ebon dew]

I was just thinking that. It looks like it might stall and then all bets are off where it'll land.

[patent hemlock]

spoken like a true Floridian (y'all are nuts)

[tardy badger]

Francis was supposed to move fast through Florida back in 04.. it stalled and did like $2b worth of damage

I remember evacuating for Francis

We went to Charleston, SC. My parents and their friends drank a lot of beer and wine coolers lol

[ebon dew]

It had a real quick jog straight west for a little bit. It'll do 1 of two things then, head towards apalchicola or start moving more east into Ocala.

It becomes like a spinning top if it stalls and could go almost any direction.

[tardy badger]

Floridians know how to throw hurricane parties, that’s for sure

[ebon dew]

I'm not seeing any appreciable wind shear though... pretty sure it's going to keep heading almost straight north.

[tardy badger]

My parents did margaritas and strawberry daiquiris when jeane hit

[ebon dew]

Well if your power goes out the first thing you do is fire up the BBQ and start cooking stuff from the freezer.

because the food will likely spoil anyway.

[tardy badger]

Yeah

We surprisingly got power back pretty quickly back in the day

Nearly 20 years ago..

[ebon dew]

I have 2 gallons of water in the freezer. Extra ice to keep the freezer colder longer.

[tardy badger]

Yup yup

Looks like most of where it could make landfall is the swamp

[ebon dew]

and Pina colada's are delicious but I stopped drinking alcohol long ago.

It's all nature preserves there specifically because of this reason.

[tardy badger]

Coastal swamps will help take a brunt of the storm surge

All the mangrove swamps

[ebon dew]

bunch of developers got a hold of some land in Fort Myers that should have never been rezoned. 1 hurricane and it flooded everyone out because it was a natural flood plain.

[patent hemlock]

oh i guess you didn't hear about the Supreme-court stripping of wetland protections

[ebon dew]

can't remember which one that was, seems like 10 years ago or less. was a big lesson for a bunch of municipalities not to rezone flood plains just to get more tax money from housing developments in flood plains.

i have not... that's not a smart decision. wetlands are wetlands for a reason.

[tardy badger]

Wow literally today that happened?

Luckily those coastal wetlands are protected because of being on the coast

[patent hemlock]

no, it's been in the works -- the EPA released their "revised" wording, which basically leaves a lot of those supposed protected wetlands open to any kind of exploitation

[tardy badger]

But other protected wetlands not near rivers, oceans, or other navigable waters lose their protection

[ebon dew]

all of florida gets hit equally really. at least the panhandle has a nice buffer with their preserves.

[patent hemlock]

that's the trick - what's "navigable"?

[tardy badger]

I say we just designate them as wildlife preserves or national monuments

Or national parks

[patent hemlock]

the proper action is, to re-surface an old notion, is to "vote the bums out" (e.g. the ones not making any sense)

and i think that should end any political discussion, lest it devolve

[tardy badger]

Nothing like people with no background in environmental sciences making environmental decisions

Anyway, to bed

Night 👋

[burnt tendon]

Florida: National Monument to the Florida Man.

[ebon dew]

https://tenor.com/view/flag-gif-14969509

[bright veldt]

When you zoom out, everything makes sense

[fathom flicker]

I'm looking to scale up this tutorial to something closer to life sized - https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-trombone-champ-controller/overview

Trying to find a larger Potentiometer. Is this my best bet? https://www.adafruit.com/product/5466 Or do y'all think swapping to a rotary knob would be better? https://www.adafruit.com/product/5734

[thick wind]

This would depend on your application. I do know oversized slide potentiometers aren’t commonly available, but you might be able to get a custom one or even make one yourself. How large do you want it to be, what budget do you have, and what is this for?

[fathom flicker]

Looking to have something fun at our booth for the coney island makerfaire as part of my local makerspace (fatcatfablab in NYC).

I could do like $100

quick googling looks like the trombone slide is about 70cm

Still in the brainstorming phase though so not really committed to anything yet

[thick wind]

Ooo, that’s a tough budget for a custom slide pot. You might be better off with a timing belt and a motor / encoder combo.

[fathom flicker]

I will say my space loves the outcome of that tutorial. It's easily their favorite thing in the last year. 😆. They're basically forcing (in a friendly way) to scale it up.

[thick wind]

Which tutorial? The flying faders?

[fathom flicker]

trombone champ

Oh wow I totally didn't link to it 🤦🏾‍♂️

This one https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-trombone-champ-controller/overview

[thick wind]

OH

You don’t need the motorized part, then, just a longer slider…

Hm.

[fathom flicker]

Yeah, I was thinking a rotary knob might be better too.

3d print a gear or something

[thick wind]

There are also some options to DIY a potentiometer, though mileage may vary. Encoder and timing belt might be the best way to make something that’ll last more than a few uses.

[dusty citrus]

Does exist a config generator for different models/brands of switches, firewalls and company, that uses one codebase/gui and outputs config files that work on the selected switch? Or/and update templates from a code sample?

[patent hemlock]

i sincerely doubt it, since switch software tends to be proprietary

[raw jasper]

I wonder whether there are any managed switches that can run openwrt...

[glacial wigeon]

https://hackaday.com/2015/09/07/managing-an-unmanaged-switch/ sort of can

http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html is similar
an allwinner SoC, wired to the management interface of a switch chip
(oh, 404 on the url now)

[raw jasper]

In other news, I'm wondering whether the nintendo switch will drop in price now that there are rumors nintendo's developing the Next Thing

[tardy badger]

There’s rumors that Nintendo is always developing the next thing 🙃

I’ll believe it when it happens, rumors about the “switch pro” and related have been circling for a while it seems

Or next gen handheld at least

[raw jasper]

I just want the switch's price to drop :P

It's an ancient tegra SoC! Come on! :P

Besides, the switch has been out for, like, ten years? They have to release something eventually

[fossil dawn]

That's exactly the same thing that people said when there were "Switch 2"/"Switch pro" rumors 5 microseconds after the launch of the switch 😛

[olive dome]

OMG I feel old now

[olive dome]

do you know how they interface with the switch?

[thick wind]

Alright ten years is an exaggeration, we’re only in year 6 at the moment. It does feel like a long time considering how badly the Wii U flopped, but it’s honestly not that bad.

They are due for something new, but I’d rather they take their time to do it right

[raw jasper]

To be fair, 2020 felt like 5 years by itself ;)

[thick wind]

A quick jump from the ancient Tegra to a cutting edge processor leaves game developers in the dust; gotta have compatibility to build a launch lineup.

[olive dome]

If they sitck with NV then that should be fine I think

[raw jasper]

Nintendo probably won't go for anything cutting-edge

Using mature technology that is cheaper and easier to source in volume has been their thing since the gameboy

Mayyyybe the n64 was an exception, but that one has become famous for its memory bus bottlenecks

[thick wind]

To be fair though, 299usd is probably still a fair price for a Switch these days.

Manufacturing costs of the system are surprisingly high

[raw jasper]

I wonder if they've fixed joycon drift

[thick wind]

They have not.

Same old pots, same old drift.

[raw jasper]

Then it's a subscription :>

With an entry price of $299, and recurring costs of $70 whenever they break

[tardy badger]

It’s somewhat fixed in the oled model if you want to spend an additional $180

Slightly better battery life as well

Slightly larger screen

For now, I have a standard Nintendo dust collector I mean switch

[thick wind]

There are 3rd party sticks like gulikit if you want out of the drift problem for good, but Nintendo still offers free stick replacements.

[tardy badger]

Mind my mouse pad, you can see the dusk I’m collecting

[raw jasper]

Yeah, that's the problem. I don't want to spend EUR280 on something that will end up collecting dust. ~EUR100 for the nintendo DS was an easier sell :)

[tardy badger]

Definitely

I haven’t played my switch since.. idk February?

I played my switch lite a few months back

[raw jasper]

My DS is still around. I play it.... very occasionally

[tardy badger]

I really want to finish Pokémon Violet but I just.. don’t have the energy at the end of the week

[thick wind]

Zelda TOTK has been putting my wife’s switch to work lately haha

[tardy badger]

I’m afraid to get new games just for them to rarely be played :/

[thick wind]

Me too

[raw jasper]

I've watched the first hour of zelda breath of the wild. It's very empty!

[thick wind]

I have a problem where I see new and want new, but end up playing the same old games I’ve been playing for years…

[raw jasper]

There was... less environment and more people in the zelda games I remember

[tardy badger]

One game I liked playing, my kids lost the cartridge for 😢

Pokémon Legends Arceus

[raw jasper]

I tried doing the same with mario odyssey. The way they handle the camera triggers my motion sickness :(

[thick wind]

Zelda, like many open world rpgs, aren’t going to be an instant rush of excitement. Those games take a lot more time than I have haha

I would totally get back into smash for fun, but it’s hard to improve past a certain point unless you really put in a lot more time and effort than I would

I should dust off my steam deck…

[raw jasper]

I still find it strange that nintendo does not allow you to install your cartridge onto your switch.... They could have some fancy DRM thing that only allowed installation on a single system at a time

("install" here meaning "copy the cartridge to internal flash")

[olive dome]

I'm guessing that is pushing the sell for digital version

[tardy badger]

Yeah

Eshop generates more revenue per game sale than cartridges

Or that’s what is said anyway

[raw jasper]

And if your switch dies after nintendo kills their auth servers, your games will be gone with it

[olive dome]

you have better pricing control over the app store then physical copies

[tardy badger]

Plus you can push out games quicker, logistics is easier to manage

[raw jasper]

@olive dome : Out of curiosity, any favorite hc2023 talks?

[olive dome]

I kind of like the IBM talk about the brain inspired ML chip but their altitude towards press is really bad.

[tardy badger]

My most played games

Can you tell which one I played during the pandemic

[olive dome]

So "Hardware for Deep Learning" From Bill and "A Machine Learning Supercomputer With An Optically Reconfigurable Interconnect and Embeddings Support" from Google

If you want something other then ML then "High Performance Cold Plates for Data Center Thermal Management via Electrochemical Additive Manufacturing (ECAM)" (i.e 3D printing metal heatsink for water cooling using electrochemical) and "Hummingbird Low-Latency Computing Engine" (Optical Network-on-Chip)

[olive dome]

No minecraft?

[tardy badger]

Lol

Back in the day, maybe

[thick wind]

I kinda miss the old hackable Java Minecraft

[tardy badger]

You can mod Java Minecraft still

[raw jasper]

There's minecraft for switch?

o_O

Ah, yeah, I see it on the photo above

[raw jasper]

I love how you tried to revisit crash bandicoot, played the first hour, probably went "eh, meh, extremely product of its time" and let it be

[tardy badger]

My brother and I 100% all the older crash games

I really enjoyed them back in the day

[glacial wigeon]

i assume its something i2c based, but i never got it booting

[dusty citrus]

Eh my aunt will he happy for a price drop, now that they just got a switch for their kids ahah
Although what I find concerning are the invasive parental control apps

More than often are the parents that need a parental control in the literal sense rather than viceversa ha

[late fulcrum]

I've heard tales of kids enabling the parental controls on televisions and blocking the sort of news feeds that enrage people, and finding their parents became more relaxed and happy.

[versed meteor]

I showed this project to my gtt teacher and she loved it, she says its a great idea and says she will help me work on it.

[dusty citrus]

How to say, some parents use their childrens as dolls to fulfill their desires under the excuse of doing the best interest of their childrens
Just a bad experience overall, seeing the same story repeat, didn't make me feel great
Sorry for the ot

[glacial wigeon]

my mom had trouble learning how to read, and went a bit overkill on teaching me to read

all the books and learning tapes!

[raw jasper]

How can a tape teach you how to read?

(Though, to be fair, I can imagine English being an especially hard language to teach children to read in)

[glacial wigeon]

i forget exactly, it might have been tape and book combo

so somebody can read the book to you, without another person

its been a few decades, its all a blur now 😛

[raw jasper]

There are so many character combinations inconsistently mapping to literally thousands of sounds

[glacial wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zWWp0akUU

[raw jasper]

I've heard you folks have all kinds of whacko methods that promise to teach children how to read

Which leads to many children being left behind

[blissful roost]

Then I imagine it would be fundamentally broken.

[raw jasper]

Of course, 'tis English's mission to be the most difficult language for foreigners to learn how to pronounce correctly! :>

[blissful roost]

File under "NMFP" 😛

[glacial wigeon]

ive also heard it said, english isnt even a language

its 5 languages in a trench-coat

[blissful roost]

lol

[rapid geode]

the idea that there is a mission in english to fo anything is funny

[blissful roost]

No, it's an adaptive derivative.

... of several languages. 😛

[glacial wigeon]

another thing ive heard, the whole pig/pork and cow/beef thing

[blissful roost]

Certainly more than 5, I'd reckon.

[glacial wigeon]

the rich/noble class spoke one language, and delt exclusively with the raw meats

[rapid geode]

english is a mix of every word ever spoken on earth

[glacial wigeon]

the poor folks spoke a second language, and delt with the animals

the 2 languages fused together, and now you have a different word for the animal and its meat

[blissful roost]

And that's why it's the best!

😄

[rapid geode]

it is

[blissful roost]

hehehe

Of course... I may be biased... 😛

[glacial wigeon]

i assume exceptions like chicken, where not farmed by that group of people

[rapid geode]

they say "chinese" is evolving in the same way and will eventually take over as dominant

chickens are birds. kfc is meat

[glacial wigeon]

lol

[blissful roost]

I believe there are more people speaking Chinese dialects, but it's not so wide-spread as English.

[rapid geode]

yet

[dusty citrus]

Which actually aren't dialects yet

[tranquil swallow]

I'll believe it when I write code in Chinese script

[blissful roost]

Languages aren't my bag, so I'll be a bit vague, @dusty citrus

[dusty citrus]

If they had a more friendly writing system would be nice

[rapid geode]

thats the thing though, you wont. it will just adopt roman writing

mix it all together

[raw jasper]

I can help if you want to write code completely in Japanese :)
https://nadesi.com/

[dusty citrus]

No problem
In a nutshell the government for obvious reasons wants a singular language, making old ones as dialects, pretty much what happened with Italy

[blissful roost]

Fair enough.

Definitely well outside my wheelhouse. 😛

[rapid geode]

thats how languages die

english prospers cause noone controls it in any meaningful way

[blissful roost]

The Oxford dictionary accepts new words based on common usage.

... which is the only dictionary that matters, of course.

[dusty citrus]

If they had a more inclusive internet though... They may expand
If you want to join to like wechat is hellish

[rapid geode]

and the french try to tell you what to name your kids....

[lethal bone]

Is there an arduino-compatible board that's about the same size and pinout capability as the ItsyBitsy 32u4 5v, but with more memory and/or generally more horsepower? But still 5v logic and accepts 5v power?

[raw jasper]

I've read some C code where the function names were English, but the comments were all in Japanese. Said Japanese was written in all roman characters.

[rapid geode]

i can see why some people are sad their language is fading, but it is communication, you can legislate that, it will always fail

[dusty citrus]

Well tuition sorta works in the long term
You don't learn nartional history and endless grammar without a reason

[raw jasper]

I think knowledge of the languages should at least be preserved in some kind of written form, at least for historical reason

[rapid geode]

like old programming languages. learn fortran in school, never use it again. 😛

[blissful roost]

I think Governments and organisations should be banned from using silly mottos in Latin.

[dusty citrus]

Then you get a boomer boss, and you're forced to use paleolithic stuff

[rapid geode]

boomers cant use computers so tis all good

[blissful roost]

Objection!

[rapid geode]

denied

[blissful roost]

False assertion, your honour!

[dusty citrus]

Italy is a gerontocracy
Boomers are everywhere

[rapid geode]

no, accurate according to a survey of my family

[blissful roost]

Subjective anecdotes aren't evidence.. Struck from the record.

😛

[rapid geode]

boomers in my industry always ask where the paint and clay is kept

[dusty citrus]

I was apparently hired for doing programming stuff
I ended up doing swirches/network config, random crap, and office crap

[glacial wigeon]

they better not be making you change lightbulbs!

[blissful roost]

My dad would ask "WHO KEEPS MOVING THEM?!? STOP IT!"

[raw jasper]

Perhaps it's time to gather what experience you can and immigrate?

[rapid geode]

it people never last in my industry. they expect some sort of structure to the job with a defined role... ha, no

[blissful roost]

Weird.

[dusty citrus]

I'd wish but I got no contacts, almost no liquidity, and I'm getting old
Next year I'm 24 🥲

[blissful roost]

My IT role is very well defined in it's scope.. and it's a little annoying.

[raw jasper]

24?! OLD?!

hits you with a broom

[blissful roost]

24?! OLD?!..... HA! no.

[rapid geode]

hey, thats old by italian standards. they only live to 30. like in scotland

[blissful roost]

plucks another grey hair...

ow

[rapid geode]

ok boomer

[blissful roost]

Watch it, kid!

😛

[tardy badger]

Lol

[blissful roost]

Don't make me completely ruin the pension funds!

[rapid geode]

i suggested my mom would live another 20 years and she got mad. "thats barely 100!"

[tardy badger]

Lol

[blissful roost]

If I'm real unlucky, I might see another 50-60 years. 😛

[rapid geode]

ha

[blissful roost]

I think my last surviving grandfather is like.. 95(?) now.

[rapid geode]

ill be fin until the apocalype makes it so i cant get my meds

ha

[raw jasper]

Think positively, you will get to see the earth turning into the Mad Max universe 😆

[rapid geode]

my moms family lives quite long. many of them well over 90

[dusty citrus]

Anyhow if I apply to like german positions, then the priority will be of those who are local, vs random dude from Italy aka as me

[rapid geode]

you need to pick positions in shortage. thats the trick. make yourself special

like vfx IT

muhahaha

not cool

[dusty citrus]

It's on shortage? I thought they were all going to India or alike

[rapid geode]

shortage to get someone with any ability

its such a bizzarre job

[blissful roost]

Sorry, I'm in a rather weird mood today.

Trying not to be angry about something.

[rapid geode]

ha

[raw jasper]

sends some chamomile tea

[blissful roost]

ugghh

[rapid geode]

i was sorta joking. poland is having a rough time right now though.

[blissful roost]

Aye

[blissful roost]

I left the cinnamon/vanilla tea at home. Derp

[rapid geode]

also, my family may or may not have been part of the first invasion.....

:x

[blissful roost]

😔

I haz shame naw.

[rapid geode]

haha

nah, i dont even know really. never met that part of the family.

[blissful roost]

My estranged grandmother passed in April... Never met the woman.

Meh.

Her estate is in probate.. with a house worth $2.2mill AUD.

Very not bad.

[rapid geode]

eep

[raw jasper]

probate = disputed will?

[blissful roost]

No.

[rapid geode]

so much of my family ive never met.

not disputed, just in process of being handed out

[raw jasper]

Sorry. No idea how wills and inheritance stuff is handled anywhere that is not my country

[raw jasper]

thx!

[blissful roost]

Just some legal process because the house is a managed rental currently.

It has to go to auction too, so.. ?

[rapid geode]

ah

i leave my house to my cat

[blissful roost]

Aussie legal matters are WAY out of my knowledge.

[rapid geode]

and i leave the cat to the dog

[glacial wigeon]

some (great)granddaughter of my grandmother passed away a year or 2 ago
and she had no living relatives, so they just ran up the family tree until they hit my grandmother
and then went back down the tree, to all surviving members
and i wound up being one of them

i had never heard of her before that mail came in

[blissful roost]

dang

[rapid geode]

i assume its the same as here. when my dad died, someone was designated in charge, then they have to do all the paperwork

[raw jasper]

sounds like the start of a novel :P

[blissful roost]

Yeah, my aunt is dealing with all that.

[rapid geode]

ha

[glacial wigeon]

the lawyers are working on just selling off all the property, and then dividing the cash up

[blissful roost]

Something, something.. no idea. 😛

None of it comes to me, so.. don't much care.

I know my dad is going to help clear some of my debts.

[dusty citrus]

Luckily or unluckily I don't deal with any of my family members, all leachers

[rapid geode]

i know somoene that has a grandparent that owned a block of land. it got divided up. then redivided to the next generation, and so on. and now they all fight

i think thats how countries form

[blissful roost]

One of my colleagues asked if my (soon-to-be-ex-)wife would come after the inheritance.

I laughed so hard, I nearly fainted. 😛

[rapid geode]

ha

[blissful roost]

It's not MINE. 😂

[raw jasper]

points at bank

[rapid geode]

nope. it belongs to a shell company owned by your long lost nephew who happens to share the same name and birth date

[blissful roost]

Ohh, she had zero debts.. there's no liability at all.

And the entire estate goes to my aunts and uncles.

giggle-snorts

[dusty citrus]

Family member steal from me -> pikachu face when she discovers that I reported her

[rapid geode]

yeesh. remind me not to steal pizza from you

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-i-love-pizza-food-coma-eating-pizza-binge-eating-gif-23848243

[raw jasper]

found ya

[blissful roost]

lol

[dusty citrus]

A pizza is fineish 10€
Not life savings

[rapid geode]

her pizza is too small. otherwise accurate photo

[dusty citrus]

Stacking up cash because I'm dumb, and I don't want to pay you know taxes

[rapid geode]

tax evasion, one of italies favourite pastimes :x

[dusty citrus]

Indeed indeed

Then I got cucked anyway

[rapid geode]

evading tax here is a very bad idea

ha

the epople that falsely took covid releif money are starting to get fined

this will be entertaining

ha

anyhow. i need to make a roof tomorrow. lifting heavy sheets of wood 10 ft up

waaaay up there

[dusty citrus]

Eh... Make a robot

[rapid geode]

ha

if only

if i had an off road fork lift thingy that would be nice

[blissful roost]

Clearly not enough pineapple on that.

[rapid geode]

ah yes. swap the horrible pepperoni stuff for pineapple and maple bacon

[raw jasper]

Are you going to use the Finest High-Quality Lumber? 😆

[night crescent]

WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/wr-7YSRxphg

[rapid geode]

ha, sadly. i used that to frame the door today.

[glad ruin]

https://vxtwitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1696945568545649091

[raw jasper]

wuzzat? A twitter alternative for vxworks fans? :>

[glad ruin]

haha

No it's just a way to make twitter embeds actually function.

[raw jasper]

There's still stuff on the platform formerly known as twitter?

[blissful roost]

Sure... an absolute wealth of bigotry and BS.

[rapid geode]

you can learn so much there. i completely misunderstood who was in the government for eample. now i know the truth

now i need to bleach my brain

ha

[raw jasper]

Was all that damage caused by the storm?

[rapid geode]

thats not damage, thats all new. the only damage was the roof asphalt being torn off then the wood under it rotting.

the door way i just changed to a normal door. it used to be a huge 4x8 foot door

[rapid geode]

this is what it should look like outside when i get the stucco/cedar on

[dusty citrus]

A box

[sick apex]

if a screen was supposed to take 5v and i ran 3.3 through it would it be normal for it to flicker

cause its running at 5v without flickering

i didn't get a data sheet or a part number or anything with it

so i didn't wanna chance it

so i did 3.3 but its running perfectly at 5v

nice and bright

not getting hot

and i was wondering weather to add a trace for 5v or 3.3 on the pcb im getting printed

[late fulcrum]

What kind of screen? What kind of signal? Does it have a backlight? Is the backlight separately powered? Are the power supplies clean? What kind of flicker?

[sick apex]

back light gets really dim

all that

i peeled the screen off the board

and its specced for 5v

which was news to me

also if i send the file i have for my PCB could someone have a check over it to make sure its good and will actually most likely work

cause i dont wanna pay to print out dud boards

that wont work

lmao

ignore the name, i didn't know what to call it lmfao

[raw jasper]

flipper_destroyer

ha

[sick apex]

doesn't have a schematic file because i had no idea how to work the schematic editor

[raw jasper]

You need a cute mascot

[sick apex]

the other one was pretty easy

[sick apex]

well the code works like a flipper zero

except the parts including printing out 10 pcbs

is less than an actual flipper costs

i could build 10 for the price of one flipper zero

[raw jasper]

PCBs + parts, and it supports all protocols the original tool does?

[sick apex]

i haven't gotten around to RF

but it does wifi and bluetooth

i have the parts to do RF

[raw jasper]

||that's where the cost will skyrocket||

[sick apex]

i got a cc1101 for 0.39

[raw jasper]

Also, you need a cute mascot

[sick apex]

lmao yes

[raw jasper]

I think a big part of the appeal on the flipper is the design

[sick apex]

yeah also my device will support

full 16bit RGB

on the screen because thats what i programmed it with

so you'll be able to change your colour

anyways i gotta go take my motorcycle test

i'll be back, if someone wants to checkout the pcb design and let me know if it will actually work how it looks like it should work that would be great

[tardy badger]

This week.. just feeling.. meh

[blissful roost]

It's been a very MEH! week for me.

[tardy badger]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-movie-sad-disappointed-frown-emoji-movie-gifs-gif-8984953

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-meep-spongebob-wink-gif-16914188

[dusty citrus]

hi, yesterday been working with Rasberry pico (circuitpython) dc motor and control with Relay module 2 channels H/L with optoisolation. After few tries everything worked fine. Then code stopped working. Tried to reset but it did not helped. Later noticed that MCU is connected as USB drive and not as CIRCUITPYTHON. Tried to install uf2 file again but after install it is still USB Drive

Thinking if MCU fried by spykes of DC motro

Or is there other issues why Circuitpython install is unsuccesfull

[blissful roost]

I'm well on my way to getting a divorce and I had to visit a police station this morning to file a report... so that's fun! 😅

[patent hemlock]

holy bleep!

[edgy apex]

I am liking the (new to me) picamera2 api, I figured out how to zoom centered on an arbitrary x,y. for my project it has to be perfectly centered zooming. I am learning new stuff which is always fun.

[raw jasper]

Hope you're OK!

[blissful roost]

Yeah, just fine.

It was an empty threat, I'm sure.. but it helps when I go to court. 👍

[raw jasper]

Glad to hear you're OK

[blissful roost]

Well, still breathing.. so that's a start.

I just have a LOT to deal with over the coming months.

[patent hemlock]

at least my divorce only cost me about $100K USD

[rapid geode]

divorces are free here. gov funded.

....

[patent hemlock]

nah - the divorce was free: that was the soaking i got due to bad legal advice

[rapid geode]

did they advise you to give them all your money?

[patent hemlock]

like "the house that you can't afford is all yours"

[rapid geode]

haha

[patent hemlock]

that and the credit card bills

but no police required, so hang in there @blissful roost

[blissful roost]

Ohh, I have no assets.. just debts.

[patent hemlock]

that was my problem, as well

[rapid geode]

assets are 5050. deptsa are yours

[blissful roost]

Joint debts are joint, but.. it's not relevant.
It's less than £7k total, so I'll keep that.

[edgy apex]

If you have a trust they can't touch it

[rapid geode]

i trust you dont know lawyers

[patent hemlock]

nasty person even stole my high school and college class rings and got $$$ for the gold

[rapid geode]

they will take everything

[tranquil swallow]

That's why I keep all my wealth in Bitcoin and commit my private key to memory

[blissful roost]

lol

[rapid geode]

ha

i keep all my money in pizza hedge funds

[patent hemlock]

what happens when the hedges need trimming?

[blissful roost]

Didn't really want to dig quite this deep into it, but.. she can't touch me anyway.
I can get the divorce done in UK courts.
As I'll submit to keeping all the debts, it's a walk-in/walk-out job.

[rapid geode]

the hedges are basil. goes back onto the pizza

[raw jasper]

no pineapple?

[patent hemlock]

sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do

[blissful roost]

For sure.

I'm talking to a solicitor tomorrow and I'll be addressing Immigration too, to remove my sponsorship from her UK Visa.

I wouldn't even bother, if she didn't threaten to take my rabbits.

[rapid geode]

pineapples dont grown on hedges. whats wrong with you? they grow on trees

[blissful roost]

But, she did... so..

(That's why I was at the police station this morning)

[rapid geode]

dont ^%*%^^ with someones rabbits

[blissful roost]

Indeed

UK law views pets as property.. and I have all the receipts.

[patent hemlock]

as we in the US sometimes say very sarcastically "buh-bye!"

[blissful roost]

Bye, Felicia!

[dusty citrus]

That's why you do fake marriages, and why sometimes rent is advantageous 🙊

[blissful roost]

lmao

[rapid geode]

and why you dont take ethical advice on discord

[blissful roost]

Ohh, that's easy.. I lack ethics. 😛

[raw jasper]

and why you dont take ethical advice on discord

[dusty citrus]

Ethics are... The best tool if you have some kind of cult

[blissful roost]

*Knives.... you mean knives.

[raw jasper]

lol, it's not like the only person who ever talked about ethics was Thomas Aquinas :P

[blissful roost]

You can tell when summer is over.... It gets dark real quick. 😛

[rapid geode]

i am th emost ethical person ever. bigly ethical

so the neighbour got a telematics boom to try and lift their trusses on their silly house. it came up 2 ft short. now they gave up and went home

[patent hemlock]

ow! there went the rental!

[raw jasper]

You have weird neighbors

[rapid geode]

it is entertaining to watch them goof everything up

[patent hemlock]

self built?

[raw jasper]

Mx. Builder, Mx. Totem Constructor, and Gods know who else :P

[rapid geode]

he is a professional house builder.... so they claim

[blissful roost]

OOF!

My step-dad is a site manager, construction.. and he's seen people try doing some real silly sshh.

[rapid geode]

they have made so many planning mistakes. they got trusses for the deck roof and they are 1 foot too long so they dont sit on the beam. they went and finished it anyway and most likely will be told to take it down

[blissful roost]

He threw 2 guys off site, for playing around with nailguns.

[rapid geode]

the boom operator was smart, he just refused their dangerous ideas

[dusty citrus]

In the market everything is bs
Our boss after gaining ground with public funding he thought getting one hr which uses fancy "ai" tools

For a matter of fact he also got me, but I ended up doing donkey work

[blissful roost]

I find myself wondering.. if Win10 will be happy with me just swapping the GFX card.

Like, without removing the drivers and reinstalling.

It's a straight nvidia/nvidia swap, so.... should be ok?

[dusty citrus]

Try it out and see
Most of times it fixes itself
Otherwise ddu and install the drivers

[blissful roost]

Wing it! 👍

Ohh! I need to check power cables first.

Do I have a 6+2 ?

[rapid geode]

8+8

i think thats what my card has

3060ti

its hungry

[blissful roost]

Card is an MSI 2060, so just the 8-pin.

[raw jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pusheen-food-eat-eat-everything-nutella-gif-15159931

The GPU

[rapid geode]

ha

[raw jasper]

I'm assuming you have an entire farm of 3060tis downstairs :P

[rapid geode]

nah, we have titans

[blissful roost]

Ok, can confirm that my 13yo PSU has the right connector. 😄

[raw jasper]

I'm surprised it's still standing after 13yrs

[blissful roost]

Tagan.. I have 3 of their PSUs.

[raw jasper]

Mine died after 10, but it was a non-name "DEER"(?)-branded one

[blissful roost]

All equally old, all still working. 😄

[raw jasper]

Nice!

[rapid geode]

psus are pretty solid these days. i havent had an issue with one in ages

[raw jasper]

Titan XP; Love the name

[rapid geode]

there was one after those. titan rtx?

we have a few of them

but mostly the older xps

(and lots of quadros)

[raw jasper]

(Also, I think this mountain of cards is worth a small vehicle :P)

[rapid geode]

that was before the shortage, but still

yes

ha

[raw jasper]

I can only imagine your power bill

[dusty citrus]

Btw you do cgi stuff right?
Are you able to confirm if an android tablet with pen pressure, is able to comunicate with a pc program over rdp?

[rapid geode]

power was included with the rent if i remember and the landlord then was not happy

[raw jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDpDesU_0zo

[rapid geode]

ha

that tag line is one of the worst things ever created. especially in grocery stores.

2 for $5 vs 1 for$3... 3 is still less than 5 if you dont need 2!

[glacial wigeon]

but if the thing doesnt expire, and youll need it eventually

[rapid geode]

yes, but then im buying 2 anyway, so just make them 2.50

[glacial wigeon]

which isnt true for GPU's

yeah, its a trick to force you to buy more now

[rapid geode]

gpus is a losing battle. more gpus renderes faster, we finish more shows, and make lots of money..... and then the writers and actors go on strike for 6 months...

[glacial wigeon]

after not upgrading my pc for 10 years, i finally got some new hardware

it went from <15fps on low, to pegged at 60fps on max, in every game, lol

my monitor is now the bottleneck

[rapid geode]

nice4

[glacial wigeon]

it doesnt help that my primary display is still 4:3, and a wide-screen doesnt fit in the desk!

[blissful roost]

Tagan was dismantled back in like.. 2010, I think.

A real shame, because they produced excellent PSUs.