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sage aspen
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You're silent

cinder wind
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nooo come back jp

lavish patrol
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Lol

sage aspen
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I had to refresh twitch, but he's back

sterile forge
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lost sound

lavish patrol
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A new type of Theremin?

inner spade
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YT sound is okay.

haughty quiver
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is audio back?

analog acorn
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Sounded a bit like BayMax's "lowwwww battery"

nova totem
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audio is on twitch

woeful shell
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I've had a purpleair sensor (go, citizen science!) for a year or two, and it is very cool, but I've been quarantined in place in New York since early March. Of course had I an ISP crisis back in New Mexico a few weeks after they shut travel down in NY, and I haven't been able to bring the purple air sensor back on line remotely. I had to change ISP's, and also WiFi infrastructure in my New Mexico home, and the new WiFi is very fragile, since it is based on Apple Airport Extreme base stations and repeaters, and they aren't very well supported any more.

cinder wind
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I've been using the purpleair maps a lot these last two weeks

analog acorn
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AQI here is 222 right now. sigh

halcyon linden
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Where I live it is 17 right now. I'm no where near the west coast

woeful shell
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Anyone know how to roll your own purple air sensor?

solid wyvernBOT
halcyon linden
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I checked the purpleair map and there is one right across the street from where I live. That unit shows the API at 33.

turbid pine
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Because the pourpleair sensor has 2 measurement channels for validation

sage aspen
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The reason for the 2 values is there are 2 labels and that data is transformed to the AQI and description.

turbid pine
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It has two separate sensors

sage aspen
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Yes, but that is part of the debug output for the setting values to labels.

woeful shell
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Adafruit only sells the 2.5 sensor

analog acorn
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They're out of stock

turbid pine
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these show up in teh map as channel A and channel B

wind spoke
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Will those project be compatible with matrixportal_m4? Are all the guide gona be updated?

analog acorn
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The PM2.5 sensor from Adafruit measures PM0.3, PM2.5, PM10, etc.

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The python-aqi library will gen it for you.

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Purple does NOT allow non-Purple sensors, so you have to shell out 250+ to play.

woeful shell
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That's what I wanted to know, no roll your own, sounds like, too bad. Citizen Science rules!

analog acorn
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@woeful shell I agree. I thought about standing up a more open platform....

fallow berry
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the sensors.community or was it .devices? something like sensordaten, a university led similar thing for open devices

lavish patrol
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This project is a breath of fresh air.

viral sail
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Thanks @haughty quiver

fallow berry
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Get a plantower snesor (used in purpleair) or nova fitness sds011

lavish patrol
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Another great workshop, @haughty quiver

analog acorn
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Thanks, @haughty quiver fun as always!

inner spade
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Excellent workshop today, @haughty quiver !

halcyon linden
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Thanks JP

inner spade
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Thanks to @sage aspen for the code, as well!

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and the amazing matrix library. Wonderful work on those displays @sage aspen

sage aspen
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You're welcome

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Thank you

haughty quiver
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Right on, thank you @sage aspen

viral sail
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I had never heard of PurpleAir before this demo. It's a pretty cool project.

lavish patrol
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@sage aspen πŸ‘

haughty quiver
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@analog acorn haha it is a bit like Baymax :]

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it was the last thing my Amazon Alexa Wand said to me after they shut down that service.

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I got a nice recording of it to put on my sample player

tacit swift
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I just got my EdgeBage setting it up now cappy

simple fractal
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live on the tubes of you

nova totem
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live on twitch

simple fractal
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we are cats , we dont respond to commands

sterile forge
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good day sir

viral sail
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Hi Scott.

strong acorn
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audio-video sync looks good

simple fractal
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our rain earlier in the week only dipped the smoke, it has returned

tacit swift
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You're fine bro the lil guy is more important!

simple fractal
tacit swift
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Thaat camera is firreee sparky

simple fractal
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Looks, its mars. or something

wind spoke
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Are you gonna be doing the new release?

tacit swift
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NO your camera the focus is craazy

simple fractal
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actually that is a nice camera. its fine. as eomeone said

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i keep thinking bladerunner for some reason

tropic inlet
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Very cool camera

simple fractal
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lol, in correct english?

wind spoke
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ZB1 was wrong... it's ZV-1. πŸ˜‰

gusty wedge
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hi.

simple fractal
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i understand why adafruit wants commercial entities to buy their own USB VID but it seems difficult with some mfgrs.. So adding boards gets stopped.

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i think someone is working on F1 support. guessing.

gusty wedge
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#snek could be ported to it...

simple fractal
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international show. Scott is covering the world

wind spoke
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(for me) Reasonable on friday... not so much in the middle of the week.

simple fractal
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Yes, this i my end of week relax time

tropic inlet
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Does Busio support different SPI widths like Quad and Octo SPI

dull cedar
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Apart from opensource vs free, there's also libre (in the philosophical sense) - of the entire supplychain - vs just code that happens to be opensource. This includes working conditions in factories where each part is manufactured. Something that didn't strike me as significant until I started looking at hardware.

simple fractal
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well electrical engineer here. when i was in uni there was no computer engineering πŸ™‚ computer science was in the math dept

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i love that the docs are mostly wrong.

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no blame. nobody wants to be the doc updater

tacit swift
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editing wiki docs is scary lol

dull cedar
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no blame. nobody wants to be the doc updater
@simple fractal
I was "raised" as an intern who was used to update docs and unit tests. Best way to teach someone stuff lol. Suggest doing the same here.

simple fractal
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yes, nothing like learning by trying to document.

solid wyvernBOT
tacit swift
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Well I'm working on setting up my EdgeBadge so I'm sure I'll have lots of question lol

modest vector
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Can you expand about what you just said about C and python?

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You said something about speeding it up by using C. Maybe I misheard.

tacit swift
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is it because all of the libraries you have to import in python

nova totem
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Does the C part have to be built into the circuitpython compiled executible right?

modest vector
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@nova totem Beat me to it. That was my next question.

nova totem
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Hmmm yeah, was thinking for libraries that are cross-portable, but that's a good point

modest vector
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Would producing an .mpy allow one to achieve a 'c level speed;, or is that something else?

wind spoke
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Same VM but you skip the compiler.

tropic inlet
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Also you can use a logic analyser for IO timings

wind spoke
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In Circuit Python, you may want to write in C stuff that need to run in the background, in parallel with Python user code.

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In the Java world, ByteCode could be "compiled" into microprocessor instruction. Translate once, execute multiple time. So it should be possible to boost things.

simple fractal
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So moving uPython 1.13 does that get uasyncio etc

tacit swift
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Writing exceptions is pain lol

simple fractal
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yay

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so much fun. turn it on, turn it on πŸ™‚

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I just ordered a big adafruit rgb matrix, via digikey.

tacit swift
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It's so cool that yall do walk-thurs of code like this

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lol

gusty wedge
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Which reminds me. Your OLED aqi dev looked so cool just printing on the repl.
Having blinka on the corner reminds me all of the non-X linux stuff I did a couple of decades ago.

tropic inlet
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Can you use another freertos task with the esp32s2 running CP?

strong acorn
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back to browser view...

rough talon
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You're not showing the code- you're teasing us πŸ™‚

tropic inlet
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we cannot see your code

sterile forge
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back to browaer pls

rough talon
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Do you have a recommended reference for the Python C API for extensions?

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Back ground is great!

tacit swift
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Yo, maan you're fired up we are all just taking it all in lol

dull cedar
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I'm going off lol. Literally need to sleep now.

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It's a few hours past midnight here

tacit swift
tropic inlet
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sprites

wispy linden
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Hello all, man .. I totally slept in πŸ˜„ what did i miss?

rough talon
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You're doing a great job of explaining the optimizations needed to get good performance. (Sprites would sit on top of this as if I'm understanding all this correctly.)

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What utility/prompt magic are you using to get all that wonderfully useful highlighting?

tacit swift
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devs that work in the dark realm of cmd will code until 4am easy

rough talon
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yes

gusty wedge
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ag

tacit swift
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bro that's just a hour hahahahahaha

rough talon
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awesome- now I got the keyword - can google from there. Don't want to distract you πŸ˜‰

simple fractal
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i think i'm using clearance

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now i need to change

tacit swift
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can you put the links in the chat?

rapid hornet
tropic inlet
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so is that like Oh My Zsh

rough talon
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Where would be the best place to start a shared doc for all this cool info? Google docs?

simple fractal
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sort of, except for fish πŸ™‚ like that answer? its a special one

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i used ohmyzsh many years ago. cant remember what its like

tropic inlet
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Where does the local display image live in memory?

wind spoke
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What? No alpha blending?

tropic inlet
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so would it live in heap

nova totem
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Didn't even notice it on twitch either

rustic oyster
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perhaps "writing your checklist" should go on your checklist πŸ™‚

rough talon
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As a transition/wrap up- could you give a summary of what should go in shared_?? vs common_hal, vs common_modules? If you covered it at the start of the stream I'll review the recording (came late.)

tacit swift
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I'm struggling with setting up my badge lol

rustic oyster
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I appreciate you asking that Julian, as I'm working on adding a 'nfcio' thing, I definitely was confused at first

tropic inlet
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Bet you're glad you chose a nice simple driver πŸ˜‰

rough talon
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Oh, so common_hal, isn't "common" - it's port specific?

gusty wedge
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commonish_hal πŸ™‚

rough talon
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brain explosion< but I think I'm starting to get it.

tacit swift
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its a continuous conversation its good stuff

gusty wedge
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swtich back to the screen

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I'd like seeing repls... it's fine by me πŸ™‚

tacit swift
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what are we looking at lol

tropic inlet
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We need the @rapid hornet zapper..

tacit swift
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hahahahahahahahaha

nova totem
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I bet we can built one in circuitpython

simple fractal
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i forgot i had a community i was following on gitter

rough talon
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OBS has a web-remote plugin- an assistant for you who took some notes/time stamps would be amazing.

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We can talk offline if you like...

rapid hornet
simple fractal
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yay

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i think i asked a question about VIDs, about an hour ago πŸ™‚

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lol

gusty wedge
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thanks for talking about usb pids.

simple fractal
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i understand why adafruit wants commercial entities to buy their own USB VID but it seems difficult with some mfgrs.. So adding boards gets stopped.

left pier
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I usually watch these at 1am... watching live is more fun

simple fractal
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And its now $6,000USD

rustic oyster
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wow it was like 5k up til just recently wasn't it? times are tough...

simple fractal
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seems high for many companies selling boards in the hundreds, or even thousands.

tropic inlet
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USB tax

simple fractal
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those rooms of lawyers have got to get paid

rustic oyster
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Yeah, we sell thousands at my day job, and still don't have a VID

simple fractal
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not that i have anything against lawyers in the room πŸ™‚

tacit swift
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Where is the best place to talk to other people working on the edge badge? I'm a dev but this is my first-time working on micro controllers and I also have xp with PI's

rustic oyster
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I've been waiting on a pid.codes review/approval for a month now. They're many months behind on PRs 😦

simple fractal
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yes, you can ask various semiconductor mfgrs for a PID

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but some companies like nordic just say 'Use our VID and pick any PID' which doesnt work

gusty wedge
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I have an openmoko here. Lovely dev, not a nice phone 😦

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I did met some of the devs when they came to Costa Rica.

rustic oyster
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I like gotta say, I kinda love nordic's approach: "use our VID, but we're not allocating PIDs, so hope you don't collide, good luck!"

lilac tusk
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You can get a PID if your project is open source

left pier
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Maybe the CircuitPython Foundation should have a VID for members ...

simple fractal
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i did some research, ST, NXP, some TI parts, Silabs, FTDI, all have licensing

lilac tusk
simple fractal
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espressif should, but dont.

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lol

lilac tusk
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I’m in the middle of getting a PID for my current CP Sapling board once it comes in and I assemble it that is

simple fractal
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this is a great Dive into the Deep today.

wind spoke
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Getting mu to update to support new PID/VID also take a lot of time...

rustic oyster
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I hope they merge that big giant PR you did, Scott. That's all the lifting done!

simple fractal
wind spoke
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Now a big batch has been accepted, but it was a long wait.

simple fractal
shell mason
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all the PID/VID

rustic oyster
simple fractal
shell mason
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that investment pays you back as well in your things

simple fractal
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there are no charges.

lilac tusk
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Nice

balmy tinsel
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I think the primary income test is very fair especially when their are still other free options

lilac tusk
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Not sure if Microchip does it

rough talon
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And as should be well understood, Scott is talking in general and not outlining specific Adafruit policies πŸ™‚ He/we/ain't lawyers!

simple fractal
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lol

modest vector
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So essentially, there are no "private" VID/PIDs setup in the same style as non-routable IPs? Something like that would be useful just for people like me that want to play around with building and designing my own board, but don't intend to sell it.

simple fractal
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IANAL (as i like to say)

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that was I AM Not A Lawyer

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there are so many companies with VIDs using tiny parts of the address space, unfortunate

strong acorn
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@modest vector or local MAC addresses

simple fractal
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i know a company who has a VID for 3 products

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i was just looking at this a week ago, hence all the links

modest vector
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@strong acorn right, something like that

simple fractal
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lol , see linklayer, i ordered their cantact pro board

rustic oyster
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Woah, he answered you? That's awesome, I got no reply πŸ™‚

simple fractal
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I guess what happens with all the various companies making esp32s2 boards, and dont care about getting a VID, or even a PID

clever summit
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​Sounds odd to me.Lat time I checked the agreement with the USB consortium prohibited you from handing out ID's.

wispy linden
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Yup, my Gravitech board PR is blocked on this

rustic oyster
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pid.codes has a VID from before that was disallowed

simple fractal
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yes, the ywant their 6k

rustic oyster
wind spoke
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I was like: "oh no, that USB VPI discussion again... but it is actually super interesting and the Aggregate PR is great idea to help.

simple fractal
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i was doing a board def for the StetelThings board, but stopped.

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i am new to USB VID PID wars

gusty wedge
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To make a mac addr analogy, I like to use the octects on my network card for "ATARI CORP" :).

rough talon
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Super interesting discussion. Will watch from 2:01 later - have to drop out now. Thanks Scott!

gusty wedge
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If you see such a mac addr, is probably me doing semi-nasty stuff πŸ™‚

simple fractal
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bye Julian

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lol

rough talon
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ARGH you're hurting me... (client dropped in- same time zone as you- I'm on Vancouver Island.)

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BOOTLOADER -- arghhhhhhh

simple fractal
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same company as before also has their own OUI (or whatever the ethernet id is) for 3 products

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hey Julian, I'm not far, North of Van, by around 120km

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i think the MBED was the first one i saw that used the disk emulation thing

rustic oyster
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MBED's basically the same, just even more "light" I think.

timid plover
wind spoke
rustic oyster
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(My forks of UF2 bootloaders end up with sleeps after the flash finishes to try and let the OS realize it's finished the "copy" because of that "too soon" removal πŸ˜‚)

wind spoke
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I think it confuse "Ultracopier".

wispy linden
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Thats awesome @rapid hornet my Saola is just on a breadboard with another USB connector stuck on

simple fractal
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i like the Cucumber board, both connctors

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that board is on oshpark

wispy linden
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^^ Yup, I added the board definition πŸ™‚

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Link?

wind spoke
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It's the HUB?

simple fractal
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oshpark is so slow

wispy linden
simple fractal
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lol

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my windows usb works. Lol

wind spoke
rustic oyster
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does the S2 not have any sort of power-survivable registers πŸ™

simple fractal
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i meant their site

rustic oyster
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"EXPRESS GOOOO"

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or something

simple fractal
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its amazingly slow for me.

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what? no Zelda for us?

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is that the fancy circuitpython hub?

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i may actually get a ps5 but the urge will wear off by te time its available

timid plover
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something to look forward to testing on Monday morning - don't worry - call it a night - enjoy the rain πŸ™‚

tropic inlet
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I'm not sure what your difference is?

rapid hornet
timid plover
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congratulations on getting your board to work - always nice to see your hardware working !

tacit swift
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When you miss installing that on library lmfao

viral sail
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Thanks Scott. Have a good weekend.

rustic oyster
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That's a fantastic api, I feel.

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Thanks Scott!

simple fractal
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Sending thanks here as well

rustic oyster
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ahhh yiss!

simple fractal
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rather nice. i have a ton of those cables

timid plover
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good to be here with everyone - thank you scott for hosting and sharing

rustic oyster
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wrong camera, overhead is on πŸ™‚

tropic inlet
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Xmos used those PCIE connectors for breakout

simple fractal
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advantage is they are quite inexpensive as well. CM3 modules use SODIMM

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i'm afan

viral sail
rustic oyster
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^ suggested that as well, sodiim is just the "one size" bit

tropic inlet
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All plugin boards require Enig and bevels in production though

timid plover
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nice to see what inspires you - gives you energy! πŸ™‚

tropic inlet
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That adds to PCB cost

rustic oyster
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you can get away with not bevling in a lot of cases though

simple fractal
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depends on how many insertions?

rustic oyster
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yeah i tried to find cheap/good eMMCs, they don't exist. sdc is basically it

tropic inlet
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also basic enig isn't thick enough to last

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(for lots of insertions)

shell mason
simple fractal
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i managed to kill my raspian install on one of my PIs.

rapid hornet
shell mason
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if you look something like that what I linked inside you see what chip it have

rustic oyster
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I literally just bought that @shell mason

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(its actually why i'm working on a tiny project to emulate their "aura" device)

timid plover
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next week is Thursday ( same time ???? )

shell mason
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@rustic oyster have you looked what chip it have?

rustic oyster
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yeah two secs i'll give you the pics I took of the inside

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Thanks Scott!

tropic inlet
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Thanks @rapid hornet great stream, really interesting

gusty wedge
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Thanks scott, great stream today

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more congrats on the camera

shell mason
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so Thursday stream then

halcyon linden
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Thanks Scott, looking for more as I will be working with the esp32-s2 soon.

tropic inlet
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Oh thanks for the S2 Spi fix also, I just saw that in the repo (not tested yet) @rapid hornet

simple fractal
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there is this quote i found on eevblog
That depends on the mating connector. I've used PCI connectors and boards made using normal process (gold plated, but light plating) with no bevel. It is hard to estimate the number of insertions, but it was probably close to 100 or so during the debugging. And there was no significant damage. You could clearly see wiper traces on the contacts, but no deep scratches or anything like that.

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So looks like practical experience says 'it may work'

viral sail
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Thanks @rapid hornet. Great show. Have a good weekend. πŸŒ’

simple fractal
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Have a great weekend all

timid plover
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bye

modest vector
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Thanks @rapid hornet !! This one was incredibly enjoyable! Thanks for keeping me awake! hahaha. I had a night shift last night and so I've been up for 23 hours now trying to get my schedule back to a normal hour. This helped!!

And thanks everyone for the lively discussions here, that also helped!

Alright, I think 8 PM is not too early for bed. I should be able to wake up at a reasonable hour now. Good night!

wind spoke
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See you.

gusty wedge
rapid hornet
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thanks all!

simple fractal
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Just in time for me to cook dinner.

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Or maybe call back east.

modest vector
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And @gusty wedge, wow, I always enjoy your funny anecdotes, hahaha. Saludos.

gusty wedge
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Saludos @modest vector , pura vida.

rapid hornet
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good night @modest vector

rustic oyster
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@shell mason heree's the chips (that were on the top of the pcb anyways, haven't pulled it out of the container.)

shell mason
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AURA chip might be that what contain all light logic

rustic oyster
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looks like the AURA chip is custom silicon. I'm basing my little doodad off of the SAMD11:

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if you google that chip number, you'll find a bunch of aliexpress listings for the chip

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but there's a project (open rgb i think it's called) that has reverse engineered a bunch of the different protocols that different RGB control software uses, and the Aura stuff looks like it's just some really simple packets over the HID control channel

tacit swift
open girder
robust horizon
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nobody told me my code was gonna be in Desk of Ladyada 😜 and I missed it

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interestingly there ARE some CAN transceivers that run from a 3.3v single supply, and I actually have used https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn65hvd230.pdf on an amazon breakout board. With the TI name on it I assume it's meeting the spec, but CAN is a bit of spec soup and for instance it may not work in all the same conditions. Sticking with a part that runs from 5V supply seems like a sensible idea.

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Other chips like NXP TJA1050 definitely require 5V to operate properly

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The primary board I've been using for dev has ATA6561 which requires 5V as well

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'night

fallow fractal
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C8051F330D (and friends) 3.3V but w/ 5V tolerant GPIO .. some with CANbus peripherals, baked in.

From 15ish years ago [Cygnal bought by Silabs).

sterile forge
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wherre is the notes link/

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where is the google docs link

sage aspen
light stump
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@rapid hornet belated thanks for the deep dive on displayio, just catching up. Let me know if you want me to post the CircuitPython to C β€œevidence board” somewhere more accessible to folks.

rapid hornet
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@light stump no problem! I'm happy to take requests for the deep dive. maybe we can add a link to the evidence board from the design guide or similar

prime sentinel
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Haven't seen the deep dive, what is the evidence board?

viral sail
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Hi @haughty quiver

haughty quiver
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hi!

inner spade
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Audio is excellent!

sterile forge
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Hello and gooday

haughty quiver
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super! Hi @inner spade

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hello @sterile forge

inner spade
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This is the sensor that will be going into the nuevo workshop corrosion detector project.

haughty quiver
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woops! wirecast crashed!

inner spade
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YouTube is spinning, waiting for the stream to start flowing again.

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YT is back now!

sterile forge
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just fine on youtube

inner spade
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The Cabinet of Wonders needs a smoke machine.

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... and lasers.

prime sentinel
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Cool, thanks!

viral sail
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Thanks @haughty quiver

inner spade
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Thanks @haughty quiver !

haughty quiver
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I must vow to not poke the cursed image twice!

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Thanks all.

cinder wind
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John.... click it

haughty quiver
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NOOOOO

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OK

cinder wind
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hahaha

haughty quiver
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doh

rocky reef
hard hollow
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β˜•

rocky reef
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good morning folkls!

waxen thistle
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Good morning all you wonderful folks -- live on Twitch πŸ™‚

hard hollow
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howdy howdy

nova totem
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Good morning all

viral sail
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Hi @rocky reef & @sour ridge

eager sapphire
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Good morning Ruiz Bros

waxen thistle
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A bodacious bunch of boards!

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median meteor
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Hey guys

sour ridge
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@viral sail I apologize for having the same name as him, you tagged me instead

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I swear, it's actually a coincidence

median meteor
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I'm sorry, I can't resist this but: "@hard hollow, the Matrix Portal has you" πŸ˜„

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Wow that thing is cool!

urban gale
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nice design

rocky reef
viral sail
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Adabox hint?

rocky reef
median meteor
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Thermal reactive filament! Nice.

waxen thistle
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A USB-C horror film plot: you attempt to plug in the USB-C cable, but it doesn't fit. So you turn it over, and it still doesn't fit. Turn it back over a third time, and it actually fits.

Plot twist: it was USB-micro the entire time.

prime sentinel
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Cable twist plot twist

waxen thistle
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Bubble gum also bonds to carpet. If you don't believe me....well, there's a way to find out and spend an entire afternoon fixing it πŸ˜‰

rocky reef
waxen thistle
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Matrix Portal -- Keanu Reeves learns the cake is a lie. Woah.

rocky reef
balmy tinsel
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I saw a tutorial you two did back in 2018 on making 3D circuit board models in fusion. It looks like that functionality has since been removed, what are you doing now to model the Adafruit boards?

solid wyvernBOT
nova totem
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@balmy tinsel You can sorta do it but you have to assign the 3d model into Eagle and then that exports to Fusion. I barely know how to start Eagle so not as easy as their videos were for sure

balmy tinsel
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I've had some limited success designing circuit boards inside fusion and then generating the 3d models from those. Seems like the same or a similar method to assigning the 3d models in Eagle. The big issue right now is 3D models will randomly disassociate. Wish their was a better way.

shell mason
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look awesome but can you see through when you wear it

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the functional helmet to go to store as already a breathing mask

waxen thistle
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Punished Props? Very nice πŸ™‚

median meteor
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I love the communicator but can you get the teleport working as well? πŸ˜„

waxen thistle
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The original series Star Trek communicator is one of those futuristic pieces of technology that we've far surpassed by 2020 πŸ™‚

prime sentinel
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I liked the primitive looking Klingon ones with the chonky heatsinks

median meteor
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@waxen thistle absolutely . It's amazing how much further telecoms has come than Star Trek predicted.

waxen thistle
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Today is a good day to 3D print! Qa'plah!

prime sentinel
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Well spoken, my cha'DIch

rocky reef
waxen thistle
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Thanks for another awesome Wednesday morning @hard hollow and @rocky reef ! Always look forward to this time of the week!

shell mason
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now with screen to it and you are fit for duty

gusty wedge
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Gracias por el show seΓ±ores, estuvo excelente.

viral sail
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Thanks @rocky reef & @sour ridge see you tonight.

rocky reef
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thanks for hanging out folks!

median meteor
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Thanks for a great show, @rocky reef and @hard hollow !

nova totem
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Great show as always guys

digital crescent
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what's the link to the clue case?

gusty wedge
digital crescent
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I meant the remix that was shown in the live broadcast.

rocky reef
digital crescent
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thanks

paper schooner
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great show @hard hollow and @rocky reef

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we need @haughty quiver to make a labyrinth with marble game in MakeCode πŸ™‚

haughty quiver
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ooh @paper schooner Limor and I collaborated on one a while back!

split gazelle
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Good evening folks

blazing girder
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Evening Liz

nova totem
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Good evening everyone

blazing girder
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Weeeell morning!! lol

viral sail
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Hi everyone!

shell mason
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Hackclub2020 πŸ™‚

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do we need badge for this?

split gazelle
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Dino arduino πŸ¦•

lilac tusk
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Evening everyone

blazing girder
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Gotta love a Dino ❣️

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πŸ¦• couldn't find Dino emoji!! lol

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Thanks Liz

waxen thistle
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Good evening all you wonderful folks!

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An engineer is never early nor late, they arrive precisely when they intend to! ....even if it's 10 mins late πŸ˜‰

blazing girder
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Much like Wizards but with better beards @waxen thistle

deep scarab
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Good afternoon!

gusty wedge
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Hi.

nova totem
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Go Canada!

shell mason
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go Mark

gusty wedge
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Artash and Arushi just rock, very cool project.

waxen thistle
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🎹

viral sail
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That's a really cool project.

blazing girder
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Loving the music hookin!!

split gazelle
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ohhh this is very nice

strange mantle
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wow. very cool.

blazing girder
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UK show BBC Radio4 More or Less also does the musical data representation from time to time!

snow moat
gusty wedge
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Go ground plane antennaes πŸ™‚

nova totem
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cool project, receiving satellites is such a simple idea but so involved

viral sail
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That's pretty neat. I've always wanted to make one of these.

nova totem
#

software defined radios are such an interesting area

blazing girder
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I always back away from the RF black magic, it scares me! lol

gusty wedge
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@blazing girder Get a cheap rtl-sdr and start browsing around, it's super simple and just by looking around, one can learn a lot.

viral sail
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Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.

gusty wedge
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Happy to #help-with-radio. We use them in Costa Rica for teaching security stuff.

blazing girder
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Man I'm super behind on the pile of To Do projects as it is, it's so on the list to learn tho!!

gusty wedge
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Go hack club, it was really cool.

nova totem
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Really great projects

blazing girder
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Hack Club seemed super cool!

deep scarab
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Those were pretty sophisticated projects! Very cool.

waxen thistle
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Very nice indeed! Thanks for sharing everyone!

tribal quest
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yay!!! glad you all enjoyed!

split gazelle
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yes, very impressive work

open girder
rapid hornet
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πŸ‘‹

haughty quiver
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hai!

shell mason
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lets show and tell after hack club

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@haughty quiver great hacking in the club

nova totem
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I saw this on twitter, most useful project ever

solid wyvernBOT
novel bolt
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A lego brick finder would have changed my life as a kid!

split gazelle
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honestly this would still come in handy for me 😁

nova totem
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I showed this to a couple friends who already want it

blazing girder
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Totally! Thing of dreams!!

waxen thistle
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I spy a....Scarif Tie Fighter?

gusty wedge
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The k210 processor that Maix (runs their version of micropython) are really nice hardware for this. I'm guessing realtime detection of the legos.

waxen thistle
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2pm Pacific, 5pm Eastern

blazing girder
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nice evening chill in the UK

lofty mist
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@waxen thistle It is a Scarif Tie! I've not found a good place to put my Star Wars ships πŸ™‚

lilac tusk
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@rapid hornet almost there on my end πŸ™‚

gusty wedge
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@rapid hornet Have you tried with Icestudio? It's super easy to "code" for it.

rapid hornet
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@gusty wedge not yet. most of the work is actually in the distribution

lofty mist
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@gusty wedge I didn't know about the k210...it looks super rad!

rapid hornet
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I want to be able to have a circuitpython library that includes the bitstream built-in

waxen thistle
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@lofty mist If you own the place and are willing, ceiling hooks and a lot of string πŸ˜‰ Also, wicked cool lego detector -- if this is v1 of the project, it's only going to be more amazing each time around!

rapid hornet
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I assembled the board but it doesn't appear on i2c

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oh! and I forgot to remind folks to get their flu shot

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got mine this morning

gusty wedge
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@lofty mist Extra low power, really fast, micropython, wifi included.. and there ir already code available for yolo2 like detection of objetcs, faces, numbers, license plate readers etc.

nova totem
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i have to see if i can get one here yet, on my list to get

waxen thistle
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Scott is 100% right! Get your flu shot, it's probably the most important flu shot you'll ever get.

lilac tusk
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Get it for the people like me who can't

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and my daughter who has a heart defect ❀️

low fractal
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Got mine 2 weeks ago.

waxen thistle
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Be selfless, get it to protect others. Be selfish, get it to protect yourself. Either or both is perfectly fine! ❀️

lofty mist
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Yay pixel art ❀️

split gazelle
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great resolution on those pokemon

gusty wedge
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No notoriuos RGB?

sage aspen
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It does top/bottom/center justification too.

gusty wedge
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I really like what lady ada and pt showed on the weekend.

waxen thistle
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Aseprite is my tool of choice for pixel art..... I'll love to see what an actual animator will recommend πŸ™‚

lofty mist
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@waxen thistle Good idea! Hanging them would be cool. I wish I knew some app programming, as this would be so much better on a phone πŸ™‚

nova totem
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not that I'm good with app programming but at least getting started on Android wasn't too bad

lofty mist
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@gusty wedge Cool! I'm gonna see if I can get a hold of one to play with

robust horizon
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I stop for a little bowl of ice cream and miss half of it πŸ˜•

split gazelle
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what flavor @robust horizon

nova totem
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ice cream is worth it

robust horizon
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cookies & cream from the local gelato person

waxen thistle
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In my family, JTV and QVC are loved icons -- although not my thing. However, an electronics-focused sales TV show with experts, designers, makers selling their wares? Like a real-time Tindie?

I'd be 100% for that.....my wallet though, no. My wallet is telling me "STOP BRUCE! Don't encourage this!" πŸ™‚

gusty wedge
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+1 @steep pilot

robust horizon
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(from a pint in the fridge)

blazing girder
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Pester power for the win!!

waxen thistle
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100% feeling that same sentiment

robust horizon
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okay corny but ❀️

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oh wait then it got dark

lofty mist
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I love it ^_^

robust horizon
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🀣

rapid hornet
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kids will love it

nova totem
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that's epic

split gazelle
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that is the energy i've been looking for

waxen thistle
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Fills me with the dark hopeful spirit I need! πŸ–€

shell mason
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paintyourdragon always have cool projects

waxen thistle
#

I spy a vintage apple mouse! I forgot about those!

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They were so awesome, so many hours spent on them!

gusty wedge
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Here in Costa Rica, I only need a radiator about two nights a year... Mine is a little old bitcoin miner πŸ™‚

waxen thistle
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These all-in-one relays are VERY nice tools to have -- they're safer than working directly with mains voltage. Which if you're not trained to handle live mains voltage, don't. It can seriously harm you.

lofty mist
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Cool teardown, @split gazelle !

waxen thistle
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Tearing apart old electronic toys is a great way to get experience with how things work -- so much fun πŸ™‚

split gazelle
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thanks @lofty mist !

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yes! and when i was little i was always afraid to take things apart because i thought i'd break it so making up for lost time now 😺

nova totem
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i remember that fear

waxen thistle
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For those getting into that fun hobby....get a set of mini screwdrivers, such as the iFixit kits. You'll come across so many weird security bits, triangle bits, etc. A philips or flathead won't be enough.

split gazelle
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yes +1 for ifixit

wind spoke
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I love the Bluetooth clock advertisement from the CLUE. Is the link up here somewhere?

sage aspen
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@balmy steppe, nice project. I'm not sure if you're making use of the accelerometer to turn the display on and off, but it could save some power.

lilac tusk
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nicee

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I like that

robust horizon
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@wind spoke the watch project links are over in #show-and-tell -- look for the messages from @balmy steppe

split gazelle
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sweet demo @blazing girder !

balmy steppe
upbeat coral
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I'm experiencing my second childhood as well

blazing girder
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Dammit! I was in such a rush to fit it all in I forgot to plug that I've launched the S2 programmer on Tindie! πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

drifting arch
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@blazing girder Awesome projects...nice to put a face to the name also!

haughty quiver
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So cool @nova totem

viral sail
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Great work everyone. Thanks for sharing.

rapid hornet
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@blazing girder next week!

split gazelle
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great projects everyone!

waxen thistle
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Thanks everyone for sharing! Very awesome projects from each and every one of y'all!

robust horizon
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Thanks all! don't go too far

lofty mist
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Thanks everyone!

nova totem
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Thanks @haughty quiver your Lars tutorial really helped start on some of the code

waxen thistle
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Lars appreciates being used for such wonderful pursuits!

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And we're back again!

blazing girder
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Cheers @drifting arch

open girder
gusty wedge
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And while the other show starts, let's all sing along... "we're all gonna die" πŸ™‚

drifting arch
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@blazing girder Radio Sylvia....great to listen to when enjoying a cuppa. πŸ˜„

waxen thistle
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Lapsang souchong and engineering shows. Excellent evening.

blazing girder
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@rapid hornet Next week I'll be in my sea kayak off the west coast of Scotland, if I'm not locked down!

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And while the other show starts, let's all sing along... "we're all gonna die" πŸ™‚
@gusty wedge so got that stuck in my head! lol

rapid hornet
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that sounds awesome!

blazing girder
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@drifting arch The chip is RDS so it even says that on the radio! lol

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@rapid hornet 🀞

drifting arch
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RBG, loved the colour reference

waxen thistle
blazing girder
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That was great thanks folks, gotta hit the hay 0100 here!

drifting arch
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02:09 here πŸ˜„ @blazing girder G'nite

waxen thistle
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wind spoke
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I am worried about you @open girder.

gusty wedge
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Yeah, I don't have money to buy a lot of stuff from adafruit... So I organized a local circuitpython day.

open girder
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@wind spoke don't worry, add to cart πŸ™‚

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or let folks know we have cool stuff

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we'll be fine, it's just a very challenging time for everyone

nova totem
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Free rewards/shipping is so good. I will almost always make carts large enough. I mean good for the company not for me

rapid hornet
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πŸ˜„

paper schooner
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it would be cool if you rewarded people that didn;t order $100 at a time because.. ouch.. $100.. maybe if you order so much a quarter.. or something, nothing big as a freebee maybe stickers πŸ™‚

open girder
#

with free shipping as what folks want in some way (amazon kinda trained every for "free") those are the tiers we can do

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we'll keep addin more and in more ways the best we can

paper schooner
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cooleo. I'd rather adafruit be there for us over free stuff

waxen thistle
#

Spectrum of wolfiness

viral sail
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Moon phases are also usually listed in UTC, which is 4 hours head of us in EDT.

robust horizon
#

SERIOUS QUESTION for space geeks:

The flight of Apollo 11. Postulate that Mike Collins is a werewolf. At what point during trans-Lunar injection does he go furry? And how many times during the mission profile is he forced to shapeshift by the light of the full Moon?
open girder
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πŸŒ• ....................... 🐺

wind spoke
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Do wearwolf need a moon clock, or how do they know it is full moon?

nova totem
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@robust horizon thanks again for your mp3 library, and having the rms_level in it! Let me blink the lights to volume

robust horizon
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@nova totem yay! That's exactly what I wanted to enable

gusty wedge
#

Well, the moon has sides that are light by the sun, and parts that are constantly dark and even have water ice.

waxen thistle
#

How does the transformation of Mike Collins from human to werewolf affect the oxygen levels in the command module?

robust horizon
#

I don't know for certain, but they would have been able to measure it on the ground to reasonable precision

nova totem
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If I have a moment I want to clean up that animation code and either offer it to the animation library or put it on github

viral sail
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Who is the singer for that cool jingle?

lilac tusk
#

i bet it's Ladyada

wind spoke
#

JP should really do inception and open the link live...

nova totem
#

annoying engineers to the point they get annoyed and want to game their algorithm is a bad plan

rapid hornet
#

I like the thumbnails!

paper schooner
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he looks borg like

open girder
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turns out it's true, people do click on videos that have faces and human vs just an electronic part

waxen thistle
#

ruby gus billie

⏱️ @haughty quiver's MakeCode Minute was exactly 2 minutes of RBG mixing goodness! ⏱️

ruby gus billie

paper schooner
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I "see" what you did there πŸ™‚

waxen thistle
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You know, that was sincerely accidental. Which I'm going to keep.

nova totem
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@waxen thistle A happy little accident? πŸ™‚

robust horizon
#

My father in law donated his stock of candles to the local RGB vigil at the law college (he's an ex professor). apparently they couldn't get candles on short notice.

gusty wedge
#

The panel was so good, thanks.

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Love it.

paper schooner
#

It's very cool that Adafruit goes to the important events

robust horizon
#

Her loss is crushing but her legacy is amazing

solid wyvernBOT
waxen thistle
split gazelle
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in all of the classrooms at my day job we have monitors installed that have buttons to turn on pens for digital annotation. i programmed them to have red, green and blue options by default but ordered the buttons to be "RBG" as a little homage to her. it's been like that for about 5 years and every once and a while a faculty member notices and gets excited

paper schooner
#

civil forfeiture

waxen thistle
#
Adafruit Industries - Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

Adafruit has had paid day off for voting for our team for years, if you need help getting that going for your organization, let us know – we can share how and why we did this as well as the g…

paper schooner
#

vote!! The future depends on you

waxen thistle
#

Funny enough speaking of eating candy during tough times -- local chocolate shop Gertrude Hawks has a few locations selling "seconds" -- 12oz bags of fine chocolates that weren't quite up to full retail quality.

Normally $6, on steep sale because of reduced foot traffic for $1.50 each. That's insane. And not helping my waist.

paper schooner
#

awesome factory footage

urban gale
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I love these

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I miss my makerspace

gusty wedge
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Same here. I've learned so much from this video clips alone.

viral sail
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Cool tour, brings back good memories.

paper schooner
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hey that's my order! πŸ™‚ just kidding

rancid depot
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@adafruit. You should be very proud of what you have built!! Awwsome your.

open girder
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we're doing this thing and not giving up, workin safe and smart

nova totem
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I can always take the one great thing from this pandemic is I got so much more into making and a ton is in thanks to adafruit

slow spire
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Hi all!

paper schooner
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mmm grey goo

waxen thistle
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I was just thinking, wouldn't it be cool to be able to watch your order from fabrication to shipment?

robust horizon
#

salt taffy?

waxen thistle
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Forbidden taffy, yum.

viral sail
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They're just playing in a giant sandbox.

gusty wedge
#

They were actually taking new pipes away... weird.

paper schooner
#

cool timelapse

open girder
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anyhoo that is some factory footage

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if we can do it, others can, and people can work together for a better future

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we are all now playing the video game on hard mode

waxen thistle
#

Someone must've accidentally selected Ultra Nightmare mode this year...

open girder
#

yerp

robust horizon
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wow that's some overhang

hot swallow
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Love it. Need to keep one of these around w the Benny Hill theme loaded at all times.

slow spire
#

"Yakety Sax" is a pop novelty instrumental jointly composed by James Q. "Spider" Rich and Boots Randolph. Saxophonist Randolph popularized the selection in his 1963 recording, which reached number 35 on the rock charts. UK comedian Benny Hill later made it more widely known as...

urban gale
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Yakety Sax

slow spire
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haha

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jinx

hot swallow
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was gonna say yackety sax but didn’t think anyone would know what I meant ;)

waxen thistle
urban gale
#

this crowd probably indexes high for Benny Hill

slow spire
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β€œAlex, I'll take UK comedy themes for 400”

hot swallow
#

I would keep another around for classic foghorn. Awesome little appliance.

waxen thistle
slow spire
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Or the Veep closing credits theme would come in handy these days. πŸ˜•

robust horizon
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yeah put this in all your halloween things too

waxen thistle
urban gale
#

I'm seeing hi-tech fart machine

rustic oyster
#

these guys will go on the T4.1 too, i'd imagine yeah?

waxen thistle
robust horizon
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we'll need to do a "trinket haxpress" version of the qtpy.

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(circuitpython build configuration that'll automatically support / require the GD25Q16 to be fitted)

echo canopy
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Thanks for posting the link @waxen thistle

rapid hornet
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ladyada was planning on it

waxen thistle
viral sail
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Does it include the gray backdrop?

urban gale
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I was looking on the site for human hands

waxen thistle
#

Hmm.....this seems very interesting. A great replacement for kapton tape.

urban gale
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could. not. find.

waxen thistle
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πŸ™

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One of my vices is having too many vises.

gusty wedge
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I like a hawaiian creation story. It says that world are created on the reflection of previous worlds. And that octopuses are the only living things from the previous world from ours.

waxen thistle
robust horizon
#

oh that "part lifter" looks clever, now do me a 3d print in place version of it

waxen thistle
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Those wire strippers NEED a googly eye.

nova totem
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really everything needs googly eyes

split gazelle
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i'm unreasonably excited to use these

waxen thistle
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Dynobots!

robust horizon
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I have a wire stripper that looks similar to that from Harbor Freight but the quality's ... not so hot. Hope this is better.

waxen thistle
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@robust horizon I know the one you're talking about. Let me guess, blue and yellow colored, flimsy plastic creaking the entire time?

robust horizon
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I think it's come in a couple of colors but yeah

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the cutter works well, the stripper inner metal teeth don't always grip well

rustic oyster
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^ that was the problem with mine, also harbor freight

robust horizon
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I don't think it has the little stop either

waxen thistle
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Mine destroyed the core of the wire, always disliked these strippers because of it -- but I might have to try it again with this one. Because life uhhhh finds a way.

rustic oyster
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yeah for 12 bucks, there's no way I don't tack on one to my next order.

robust horizon
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"curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal"

waxen thistle
robust horizon
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oh no subtitles got "p--d--p--"

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that's a great price either way .. wow πŸ™‚

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I'll let someone else cut me in line

waxen thistle
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Wait, is there an Adafruit coin? I remember a don't ask don't tell about a challenge coin πŸ’°

nova totem
#

I always love hearing the prices until I covert out of USD

robust horizon
#

it's got a few more pins than the trinket too, and castellation will be great if you want to place it ON another PCB you designed

slow spire
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Beautiful!

open girder
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$5 is good in any currency

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we'll change the price soon, so go for it now

robust horizon
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and you'll have it next week even if you pick the cheap shipping πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

lilac tusk
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Might have to since the post office seems to have lost my feather m4 in the mail πŸ™ƒ

nova totem
#

very true, not a knock on the price just in general I have to remind myself. Cause I never buy one thing...

slow spire
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This costs less than a bad UNO clone!

robust horizon
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@lilac tusk oh no!

lilac tusk
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Yeah not sure what happened lol

rancid depot
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Just got a QTpy

robust horizon
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.. did everyone see the video series about fake AVR microcontrollers popping up on low-cost Arduino clones? wild.

fair fulcrum
#

was totally waiting for this thing!

lilac tusk
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Fake AVR wow

waxen thistle
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CAN do attitude!

rancid depot
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Q: @adafruit I'm trying to use openOCD with a pi3 to mass program my nrf52840 based boards. I got the bootloader burn to work. How can I burn in CP on the same pass? udev? Thank you.

fair fulcrum
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I could totally use these for work.... we do a lot of CAN stuff.

robust horizon
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What's neat about CAN is the different things on the bus are equals

lilac tusk
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Okay ordered a QT Py

robust horizon
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so anyone can send on anyone, you just have to agree on message IDs

echo canopy
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Question for the show: QtPy do any of the pins support a lower power power source ? Example could you do a 3 ? 4 ? AA battery pack for portability? Or would I need to just use a 5v power bank like ones used for cell phones ?

fair fulcrum
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i wish i could connect it to my car.... stupid KWP2000.....

robust horizon
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@rancid depot can openocd program hex files? you can concatenate hex files too

lilac tusk
#

Do you plan to bring any lattice FPGA to the Adafruit shop?

wind spoke
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Q: Is everything in Espressif ESP32S2 really open source? Like their library/OS?

rapid hornet
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no, the esp-idf has binary blobs

wind spoke
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Sound like Raspberry Pi blobs for the GPU. 😦

rancid depot
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Q: @adafruit I understand the matrix portal can support 64x64. How do you scale font size for the larger display size?

robust horizon
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@rancid depot I think there's a scale= parameter to the adafruit_display_text Label class

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you can also scale TileGrid using a scale= parameter

rancid depot
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@rancid depot can openocd program hex files? you can concatenate hex files too
@robust horizon I think so. Have not looked into that so thanks for the suggestion.

distant junco
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Question: can I power the QT Py via 5V pin? or should we only via USB-C for power?

robust horizon
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(in circuitpython)

waxen thistle
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Start out with the plug-and-play & integrated components, then grow with soldering. All with the same board.

slow spire
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@distant junco I'd guess that you may be able to power via 5V pin; or, you could likely use a USB C breakout or chopped cable.

digital crescent
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When will the braincraft learning guide be out?

wind spoke
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I have seen matrix LED controled over I2S... what is that?

gusty wedge
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Yeap, great show this week. The show and tells and this one. Thanks a lot.

robust horizon
wind spoke
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No some module for ESP32.

robust horizon
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oh and you said i2s, not i2c. I don't know, then

distant junco
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Great show. Ask an Engineer is one of the best parts of my week!!!!

strange mantle
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@wind spoke I2S or I2C?

wind spoke
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Not sure what it is... I2S

strange mantle
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I2S is audio

wind spoke
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That is why it sound strange.

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ESP32 I2S Matrix Shield

distant junco
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oh....I meant to ask.... does the change in the Fusion 360 licensing impact your plans going forward (the stuff the Ruiz bros do). Like - do you plan do continue to use Fusion 360? or switch to another product?

wind spoke
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From Brian Lough.

robust horizon
wind spoke
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It is interesting as there are few pins needed...

waxen thistle
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Thanks @open girder for another awesome evening of shows!

viral sail
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Thanks @open girder and good night. πŸŒ“

robust horizon
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I suspect they have found a way to use the I2S peripheral to send the data quickly to the panel, but I can't tell anything more than that right away

rancid depot
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Thank you!

wind spoke
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That was great... but it is 3H30 AM 😦

nova totem
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Great shows

urban gale
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ty all

rustic oyster
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"change soon", it's gonna sell out in like 10 minutes?

split gazelle
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Thanks for a great triple threat of shows this evening

rapid hornet
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really does need a googly eye

robust horizon
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This ESP32 Arduino library for an 64x32 RGB LED (HUB 75 type) 1/16 Scan LED Matrix Panel, utilises the DMA functionality provided by the ESP32's I2S 'LCD Mode' which basically means that pixel data is sent straight from memory, via the DMA controller, to the relevant LED Matrix GPIO pins with little CPU overhead.

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that's neat! glad to know about it

cinder wind
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hey @open girder, I'm a little late on the live show, but, I have a really important question. Given the new QT Py (which is awesome and I'm getting some), when will there be the special edition phil torrone PT PY board? I'm thinking maybe it's got black silkscreen on matte black soldermask

robust horizon
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hahaha @cinder wind

sterile forge
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Can I put the new board on the ODB2 can bus

robust horizon
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@sterile forge I used mine to snoop my car's CAN bus at 500 kilobits/second

slow spire
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@cinder wind I'd start by ordering a QT Py, then modding it slightly as a prototype of your PT Py. πŸ™‚

robust horizon
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(I used the SAM E54 Xplained board which has support for CAN, the same core CircuitPython code was what Ladyada was running on her CAN Feather but the microcontroller is a slightly different part)

subtle raptor
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Q: With 2G being deprecated, officially, all over the place, when can we hope for a 4G fona? My remote sensors have gone senseless.

prime sentinel
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Or 5G? A 300GHz antenna would be tiny, right?

thin parrot
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Yeah, the wavelength is only 1mm. Though the propagation characteristics are not that great.

prime sentinel
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When I was working at an engineering/physics lab, they had a "millimeter wave" lab where they were exploring such things, which are sort-of RF and sort-of longwave infrared light. They'd have microwave-style waveguide and horns, and optics style prisms and lenses, it was neat stuff. I didn't expect it to have practical applications any time soon.

subtle raptor
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mm wave is something that's probably mostly looked at by self-driving vehicle projects. Imagine not needing to see around corners, but being able to see through them.

gusty wedge
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@rapid hornet Friendly reminder, please show the puzzle in today's stream.

thin parrot
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ST has some cute little 60 GHz transceivers for very short-range (like board-to-board) connectivity. They come with tiny surface-mount antenna horns to point the beams at each other. 😁

prime sentinel
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I'd seen some little radar units, but not the connectivity ones.

rapid hornet
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haha, ok @gusty wedge

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@subtle raptor I think the next thing is MB-IOT which is IOT for 5g

gusty wedge
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I love how it not only a nice picture... but almost a learning experience while building the puzzle.

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MB-IOT or NB-IOT? (narrow band)

rapid hornet
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I thought it was MB but I could be wrong

shell mason
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so today is deepdive too

rapid hornet
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yup! after JP's workshop

waxen thistle
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Good afternoon, followers of Lars!

lavish patrol
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Hello, all.

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I'm here for the bleeps and bloops.

waxen thistle
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I'm here for animation tips from someone who actually has done professional animation πŸ™‚

haughty quiver
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Wheeeeeeeee!

lavish patrol
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Whooooo!

waxen thistle
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By the way, I found a bunch of your Make TV shows on Archive.org πŸ“Ί

lavish patrol
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Beeps and bloops are go!

waxen thistle
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Bleeps and bloops are live!

lavish patrol
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I see Lars is getting into Halloween mode already...

cinder wind
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Act casual, we're live on the internet now

waxen thistle
gaunt plume
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fwiw I like the AHT20 more than the DH22 and I've used the dht22 a lot

lavish patrol
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Is that a candle in the wind?

waxen thistle
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Very narrow beam from that pulsar.

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A candle project makes scents!

lavish patrol
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Don't start a flame war...

gaunt plume
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Could be for a pumpkin !

cinder wind
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nice fake flame @haughty quiver perfect for halloween!

waxen thistle
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Keep calm and carry on, you wouldn't want to get burnt out.

nova totem
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Hello everyone, getting here late cause someone scheduled a meeting for now (sadly it was me). .. but at least it was fast

lavish patrol
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I'm waxing lyrical...

waxen thistle
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For those who buy from CountyComm -- if you see it, get it. They may take it out of stock and never bring it back.

gaunt plume
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url? Need some new drivers...

waxen thistle
lavish patrol
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Noice.

waxen thistle
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Currently out of stock 😦

gaunt plume
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nooo

waxen thistle
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@gaunt plume Check ebay and amazon, sometimes resellers put the exact same product on there for the same price.

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Helped me once when I couldn't get a maratac bag but a reseller had it there.

gaunt plume
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thanks for the tip

waxen thistle
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$20 from the site, frequently on sale on Humble Store or Steam.

lavish patrol
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This is relevant to my interests.

waxen thistle
#
Aseprite started being open source since its very beginning in 2001, and we were happy with that until August 2016. Now you can still download its source code, compile it, and use it for your personal purposes. You can make commercial art/assets with it too. The only restriction in Aseprite EULA is that you cannot redistribute Aseprite to third parties.
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$19.99/USD is the minimum pledge amount to get the convenient .exe and .dmg files of the 1.x version series of Aseprite

rapid hornet
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@cinder wind thanks for the sponsorship!

cinder wind
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@rapid hornet my pleasure! thanks for all the CircuitPython work

nova totem
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I am having all sorts of gamedev flashbacks right now

waxen thistle
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And there are tons of talented pixel artists on YouTube and Twitch that share their workflow.

solid wyvernBOT
inner spade
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Thanks @haughty quiver !

rapid hornet
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I'm streaming in 25 minutes too! Thanks @haughty quiver

waxen thistle
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Thanks @haughty quiver for another awesome show! πŸ–ŒοΈ

lavish patrol
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Another fun workshop, @haughty quiver πŸ‘

rapid hornet
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I'll show off the Intel 8008 puzzle too

haughty quiver
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Thank you very much @inner spade @lavish patrol @waxen thistle

prime sentinel
haughty quiver
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@waxen thistle how do you like the Maratac bag you got, if you don't mind me asking?

waxen thistle
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@haughty quiver About a decade ago (wow, time flies), I got a the Maratac Bail Out Bag. I don't recall which generation or size, but it was my go-to field service bag for quite a few years. I used it to haul datacenter cables, tools, etc.

It was very well made, lots of thoughtful pockets. I stopped using it when I transitioned to working nearly exclusively in NYC -- and in army olive green, it visually sent the wrong message.

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I still occasionally use it when I need a lot of pockets for medium-to-smaller tools.

simple fractal
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Live!, thanks scott

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for some reason youtube told me it was scheduled for tomorrow at 5am

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lol, figured that. we are getting close to checklist perfection

warm dust
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Hi all πŸ™‚

simple fractal
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hey

rapid hornet
simple fractal
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i just got another random esp32-s2 board.

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i see ladyada told them to go buy a usb vid, doubt that will happen, unfortunately.

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wemos lolin

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yikes holey bad crop batman

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link works but discord does its own crop i guess. at least here on windows

drifting arch
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@simple fractal It's cool here also

gusty wedge
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@rapid hornet can you zoom in on a couple of pieces?

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And, did someone answered on what are the orange squigglies?

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I would say a register matrix, but dunno enough...

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another bad guess of mine, would be a resistor...

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There is a legendary puzzle called "deep purple" that is just a solid color purple. This at least you can follow power lines πŸ™‚

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yeah, I went to wikipedia like crazy and started looking for other chips high-res photos, but like the atmel328p has a bunch of errors on the stitching.

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+1 on poster

gusty wedge
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And thanks, I wanted to see the closeup of one piece to kinda get my head around the resolution. I'm ordering one after this show...

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(to bad they don't have something like the 'community makes' oshpark has, where you have a shared link where you can buy)

simple fractal
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the alu is the structure to the left, middle is the processor instruction register

nova totem
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Puzzles were hard to get for a while but I heard it improved

simple fractal
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that article is great

waxen thistle
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Where'd you get the custom puzzle made?

simple fractal
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ravensburger? or something like that

waxen thistle
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Awesome, thanks πŸ™‚

gusty wedge
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@drifting arch if you can a 24-piece, you could have one of the transistor that Sam Zeloof makes πŸ™‚

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I was noticed that they also make "replacement" pieces, in case you are missing some from another puzzle.

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I wondering if the memory stack of circuitpython could be made into a puzzle πŸ™‚

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kilo but S.I.

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1000^2 vs 10^something

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I'd be happy to buy one, if you need beta tester or some dev even.

solid wyvernBOT
simple fractal
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slow bot

timid plover
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we can't see πŸ™‚

gusty wedge
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Also a very simple project for someone learning to make pcb

drifting arch
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@rapid hornet Can I buy a prerelease version?

tropic inlet
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ST74EMMA

gusty wedge
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+1

rapid hornet
terse sparrow
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So... we can invent a new 7400 that never existed?

gusty wedge
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(it is translated, click eng on the top...)

drifting arch
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@rapid hornet Are you ok with me selling your feather-saola thing, and this stemma-machxo32 bare boards on tindie? for EU buyers...

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OSHPark isn't great for EU peeps

gusty wedge
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Someone left Herkes on a loop...

terse sparrow
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Or one 7400 that has all the possibilities, and a way to configure with dip switch what chip you want.

tropic inlet
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So only one chip at a time?

drifting arch
balmy tinsel
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I've been wondering about logos on open source hardware for a bit. Would it be better to remove them from the source to begin with so that you do not need to worry about others forgetting / not wanting to remove the logo who may want to reuse / resell the design?

drifting arch
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2nd on the search list!

terse sparrow
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This could be electronic preservation... some component will disappear. If you want to rebuild a very old personal computer, and one chip is missing, you could replace it with some FPGA replacement piece.

balmy tinsel
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Seems reasonable thanks for taking the time to answer my question πŸ™‚

terse sparrow
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Not talking about MiSTer, but some retrogaming/preservation group are doing that.

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This is becoming too serious: checklist, list of topics, timestamp. Seriously, what is happening to you?

simple fractal
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Looking like winter up there

strong acorn
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I've been there!

tropic inlet
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how does this UF2 stuff play with the ESP-IDF?

gusty wedge
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(afk, will catch the stream when uploaded. Thanks for showing the puzzle and for a cool stream.)

drifting arch
clever summit
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Cute!

tropic inlet
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I think you have mentioned it before

drifting arch
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@rapid hornet the machxo symbol seems to be missing from your kicad-libs

balmy tinsel
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I'm here for it

warm dust
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me!

tropic inlet
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Adafruit Circuit Python bundle is a bit of a nightmare use of submodules..

drifting arch
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I'm wondering why you're pushing debug-edge...isn't it the kicad-libs I needed?

simple fractal
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i think micropython has make targets to setup the submodules.

drifting arch
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2x4 exists now...Chris made it...

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or maybe I'm confused...

simple fractal
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lol

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here we go, git magic

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never do this at home

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this is how i have to restore from backup

balmy tinsel
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Is their a rule of thumb for when you should / shouldn't use submodules in git?

simple fractal
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you're a professional, as an amateur i know my limits

drifting arch
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Is there anyone in the chat who isn't at home right now?

simple fractal
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lol

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well zephyr uses west for get the dependencies

drifting arch
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There is a bug in TinyUSB for STM32F1 that I need to add my fix for πŸ˜›

tropic inlet
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@rapid hornet needs a 'git status' button on his keyboard

drifting arch
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We can't use CPY with F1 without the fix...the IRQ priorities stop things from working.

balmy tinsel
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Makes sense

simple fractal
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i dont think west uses submodules, they use multiple repos under one tree. or at least thats the elevator pitch

wispy linden
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Hello all, slept in and missed the start πŸ˜„ doh!

simple fractal
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well yes, but done their own way lol.

drifting arch
simple fractal
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this is an exciting start

wispy linden
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wooooooooo timecodes πŸ˜„

drifting arch
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no .gitmodules

wispy linden
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Hey @drifting arch my hot air station should arrive today, so this weekend, the femfemfemfemfemto will be miiine

drifting arch
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haha...nice!

simple fractal
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one must never break the beam

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i did something with a submodule yesterday, and managed to have to edit .gitmodules

drifting arch
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Got it πŸ˜‰

simple fractal
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lol

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we do, we being me

drifting arch
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Now the schematic looks good πŸ™‚

simple fractal
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yes, fast branches ftw

strong acorn
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new one has ble

modest vector
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Hi all. Oh no, I'm really late today. There is a puzzle today? Darn, now I'm really sad I missed most of it.

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With a cat around? That sounds dangerous πŸ˜„

fair fulcrum
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we have a lot of issues with not getting enough detail in error messages from UBLOX and Sierra modems. very frustrating.

clever summit
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Same thing with Quectel errors.

fair fulcrum
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"Hey user, something didn't go quite right. Sorry about that..... Good luck!"

drifting arch
strong acorn
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β˜‘οΈ Option 2 seems nice and clean, no disruption to installed base

warm dust
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Deep Sleep PR is in blinka

drifting arch
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Have checked out your schematic...only thing I find that might be an issue is SDA/SCL is connected twice...is that correct?

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oops...I tried to not make it a question...

gusty wedge
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(back)

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over-looking at the code, it seems that can and uart are both tx-rx.

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What, is it using ULP for this?

warm dust
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@gusty wedge no ULP

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Dealing with ulp-riscv is too specific to esp32s2

simple fractal
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i think deep sleep uses a stub in RTC memory.

gusty wedge
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yeap on ulp.

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downloads/ the branch and tests

warm dust
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@gusty wedge code.py is a bit different then the one in hibernate issue

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will post new code.py in the hibernate issue

drifting arch
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Don't forget my post a little higher up...

gusty wedge
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you sent them to deep sleep πŸ™‚

simple fractal
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we're just waking up here in canada. or getting ready for dinner at least

wispy linden
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Which MACHXO2 part is it? The schematic seems to reference a generic footprint

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Nice, thanks πŸ™‚

gusty wedge
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Can I buy a tinyfpga and use it to test your code?

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tinyfpga ax2?

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A local provider has them.

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correct.

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Cool, I'll get one.

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Great stream as always, the part I saw. I'll download the rest and have a look a deep-sleep (yey!).

warm dust
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Nice Stream πŸ™‚

tropic inlet
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Thanks scott, great stream

simple fractal
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thanks again scott and all chatters

rapid hornet
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thanks all!

modest vector
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Thanks Scott. I'll have to stream it later since I missed most of it.

wispy linden
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Thanks Scott πŸ™‚

modest vector
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But I was distracted with these eerie sunsets lately.

strong acorn
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Thank you, educational as always!

rapid hornet
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@modest vector are they eerie due to smoke?

modest vector
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@rapid hornet I assume so. I'm all the way in Pittsburgh, but I think we are getting smoke from the West.

rapid hornet
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ya, I think pt mentioned they were seeing it in NYC

half flame
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hi

shell mason
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smoke particles have come to Finland too from forest fires in cali

open girder
pearl shoal
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Hard to tell if there is ghosting in the last digit or if it’s mpeg compression

nova totem
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Is there much of a power savings on top of the speed improvement?

pearl shoal
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Degaussing?

open girder
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coming up...

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The Great Search - SPI NOR FLASH Memory

It took all weekend but we refactored our E-Paper library (dubbed ThinkInk) to add fast partial updates. The QT Py has plenty of pins to drive your next EPD project, and lots of RAM as well. It's quickly becoming my favorite board.

Want to upgrade your QT Py to add onboard flash memory? There's a spot on the bottom. We love NOR flash memory, it’s cheap and easy to use when you need only a few MB. Lets show how to search on Digi-Key to identify the different models of SPI NOR FLASH as well as some of my hard-learned tips-n-tricks.

https://www.digikey.com/short/zw33n3

nova totem
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Thanks, curious if I put this in my weather display

lilac tusk
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would be a cool addition @nova totem

open girder