Have a good time, Scott
#live-broadcast-chat
eager sapphire
shell mason
warm the house with trinkets in that party @rapid hornet
brisk bough
trinket trinket trinket
eager sapphire
Hack activity of the day: just pulled two small DC motors off an old remote controlled rear view mirror.
rain river
Can this trinket communicate via serial communication?
eager sapphire
...part two: they both work
fickle umbra
@rain river the answer is 'yes'' or 'maybe', depending on what exactly you mean
for talking to a computer, native USB<-> serial emulation is baked into the hardware
for talking to a UART device on the pins...I'm pretty sure the answer is "if you have the pins available"
rain river
@fickle umbra if I want to send a message via serial monitor to change a state or a sensor?
brisk bough
im the only one in the youtube live broadcast at the moment
rain river
Of a sensor*
fickle umbra
serial monitor is part of the usb<->serial stuff
and yes, that works on all of Adafruits M0 based boards
rain river
Awesome
velvet beacon
get ready folks!
distant harbor
Trinket party!!!
hoary igloo
Hello
fickle umbra
Twitch just spun up
eager sapphire
It's crankin!
hoary igloo
Whats goin on
fickle umbra
Trinket Partay!
rain river
Yay!
pearl shoal
Looking forward to my Trinket arriving Wed ๐
hoary igloo
Teinket party whoop whoop
velvet beacon
we're live in the adafruit factory!
eager sapphire
I hear Phil, but I do not SEE Phil
distant harbor
Heyo!!!
runic acorn
Yay Python+Education
fickle umbra
Hai @velvet beacon !
heavy siren
Hello World!
brisk bough
HI Stella
hoary igloo
Hii stela
rain river
Awesome idk python only c++
glossy coyote
Hi all
velvet beacon
hi all! happy to be here
dark crane
Hi!
nocturne turtle
It's started!
vital bane
Stella!!!!!!
velvet beacon
@vital bane ๐
distant harbor
Python is a great starter language
kind thicket
hi
vital bane
sure I'm the first to do that ๐
velvet beacon
@distant harbor it definitely is, my boys dig it
kind thicket
i learned on basic then pascal
solid wyvernBOT
adafruit is live at https://www.twitch.tv/adafruit
nocturne turtle
Welp, I tried to share the link on youtube, but it got blocked... :/
eager sapphire
My degree was called EECS, they don't have it any more.
lilac eagle
I actually came to Python after I knew a few languages
fickle umbra
@open girder do you have a dedicated "conference bio slide" button? ๐
distant harbor
With Micropython and Circuit Python. Now education institutions can leverage Python on microcontrollers and Raspberry Pi
lilac eagle
So for me it was less easy to learn and more "wow this is... so easy!"
kind thicket
u can install a planet?
lilac eagle
Like the xkcd comic
eager sapphire
It's a little weird at first, but eventually makes sense
nimble egret
I'm here...
rain river
C++ yay
lilac eagle
I mean I don't love semantic white space. Ruins auto indent. But I'll take it.
shell mason
@rapid osprey is live with @proper trench
eager sapphire
Yeah, the indent-> statement block thing still seems to be too casual. Nothing wrong with {} or begin..end
distant harbor
Block code gets kids started with logic and syntax
Then they can move onto full scripting language
eager sapphire
Yes, and bracketing those blocks with keywords always made sense. If you start without it, I guess it would make sense just to indent
heavy siren
Is there a database library for your Jupiter
fickle umbra
Big Snek!
eager sapphire
But to me, it's....weird.
nocturne turtle
vital bane
@proper trench gets so excited when other engineers are on ๐
severe inlet
Is the Jupyter logo missing a Galilean moon?
open girder
@everyone WE ARE LIVE Python Playgrounds Hackchat with @open girder @WillingCarol @projectjupyter TRINKET GIVEAWAY https://www.youtube.com/adafruit/live
eager sapphire
Ahem 'in da house"
fickle umbra
What can be more traumatic than C? perl! (and this is said by someone who loves the line noise)
nocturne turtle
brisk bough
vital bane
''''''''[-'
nimble egret
Trinket party!
vital bane
sorry my baby Ada is typing..
eager sapphire
Even FORTRAN was a puzzle at first, but like all things, if you keep banging your head against it, ... well it hurts.
velvet beacon
Python for Kids by Jason Briggs is a great introductory book https://www.adafruit.com/product/1161
rain river
Inform us about python please
lilac walrus
What a good age to start tech my child about programming?
distant harbor
That is a great book @velvet beacon I have a digital copy
vital bane
Basic and Pascal got me started.. Java was such a treat to learn later in college.
pearl shoal
So, I LOVE the idea of Python on microcontrollers, etc. But I still, in the back of my head, long for brackets and hate control flow via tabs. Any tips?
thorn adder
basic and pascal got me started too when I was about 9 or so
hazy harbor
hello
velvet beacon
@distant harbor definitely is! i've used it quite often with my own kids
eager sapphire
FORTRAN, asm, Pascal, C, C++, VHDL, Verilog, system Verilog, and still, Python seems the weirdest
nocturne turtle
The only programming language I know is c++ kinda, just cause I haven't done much yet.
vital bane
How can we add braces to python? ๐
eager sapphire
C++ is an excellent start
eager sapphire
Braces would help me, with my ancient habits
velvet beacon
@lilac walrus never too young! my kids are now 9 and 12, but were learning block coding a couple years ago
eager sapphire
You could add a preprocesser to strip them and generate the right indentation
That's really tempting, in fact
wraith thunder
Our classes just ditched matlab for python
vital bane
@velvet beacon my 18 month old still hasn't grasped the keyboard but she is trying...
rain river
What's some references for 4 and 5 years olds to get into codingm
nimble egret
I think instead of brackets, might be good to have a good editor, ie atom
severe inlet
My first CS class we learned Scheme but never did anything with it after that
distant harbor
I volunteer for a non-profit that uses Python and Minecraft
velvet beacon
@vital bane ๐
vital bane
If only Dr Suess wrote a coding book.
past pawn
@nimble egret atom is great
lilac walrus
@velvet beacon my daughter just started preschool so think I have bit of time
velvet beacon
@brisk bough yep block coding with scratch, but have started cloding the Circuit Playground Express using MakeCode
kind thicket
if (ham=="green") then samiam=true;
undone light
Odoo is a huge ERP framework, ALL Python
eager sapphire
LOL that would be excellent @vital bane
nimble egret
@past pawn, I agree
shell mason
@open girder the Gitter CircuitPython community get notification about trinketparty
nocturne turtle
Sometime I should learn python, partially because of circuit python, partially because of Blender (which uses python)
nimble egret
I can use platform io as well.
vital bane
I would not could not catch Exception.
eager sapphire
Tony's videos on it are excellent, by the way (@sterile mulch)
rain river
My niece just started reading I want her to learn coding at the same time... is that at too much info for her to consume?
nocturne turtle
distant harbor
@nocturne turtle Python is used lots of places, so it's a great language to pick up
heavy siren
@nocturne turtle It has great data types. Very powerful.
fallow fractal
funny this is actually pretty relevant to me.... I'm actually doing a demo of programming to an elementary school students next week. I was planning to use python, and the 'turtle' library. But if anyone has any other suggestions I'd be interested to hear
nimble egret
@nocturne turtle, I have to give this a try
nocturne turtle
@distant harbor Yep! @heavy siren
fickle umbra
No Tornadoes, Plz! I've had enough of those this month
vital bane
@fallow fractal check out makecode
clear matrix
@rain river No, it's not too much. Coding can be taught in so many ways aimed at different ages.
brisk bough
can you put links in the youtube to all these references? or somewhere to later reference
heavy siren
Python can be very difficult to master. Get very familiar with iterators and list comprehensions.
velvet beacon
@fallow fractal @vital bane https://makecode.com/
eager sapphire
Difficult to master, I agree, but pretty quick to get started
heavy siren
I used MakeCode with my CPexpress. Or was that MakeBlock.
eager sapphire
The list/set stuff is really cool, very handy
fallow fractal
Oh this is pretty neat. I like the visual drag and drop
velvet beacon
Project Jupyter http://jupyter.org/about.html
distant harbor
@heavy siren Make Code is relatively new
hoary igloo
Ooo thanks stella
rain river
So raspberry pi uses python ?
heavy siren
@eager sapphire Yes, easy to learn, and that's the problem. It tends to give the wrong impression
@rain river Yes
clear matrix
@rain river You can use multiple languages with a Pi.
distant harbor
@rain river Raspberrypi.org has lots of Python lessons
eager sapphire
To be honest, I much prefer writing as much as necessary/practical in ASM, for embedded systems, for speed of execution and code size
brisk bough
raspberry pi has python installed on it
fallow fractal
Hello!
vital bane
jupyter is very cool
heavy siren
Remember, Raspberry Pie uses Linux.
rain river
Do y all have a link to jupyter?
eager sapphire
...the rest in straight C, maybe C++ if there's a pressing need for abstraction
velvet beacon
@rain river http://jupyter.org/
nocturne turtle
@open girder How many different languages do you guys use?
rain river
@velvet beacon thanks!
heavy siren
@velvet beacon So, its an online IDE
nocturne turtle
@heavy siren That is one option it looks like, or you can download the notebook
eager sapphire
A lot of assembler and C/C++ lately, It's been years since Ada, Pascal and FORTRAN
And a. Lot of verilog and VHDL for FPGA/ASIC design
nocturne turtle
It also looks like they have something called Jupyter Hub?
wraith thunder
sounds like machine learning
rain river
Ada is a boss women are the future!
nimble egret
@open girder ah reminds me of the teensy FFT
distant harbor
โค
nimble egret
Getting data from FFT
eager sapphire
Nice summary Kurticus!
distant harbor
Haha thanks @eager sapphire
eager sapphire
Where's the assembly language icon, huh? Well?
nimble jackal
So excited. FFT on a Trinket-sized board.
eager sapphire
That's amazing, that kind of processing power, on such a TINY board
fallen siren
Hi I would like to recommend Al Sweigart's books, particularly Hacking Secret Ciphers with Python
fickle umbra
Could you run jupyterhub on a pi?
strange mantle
velvet beacon
scikit-image http://scikit-image.org/
nocturne turtle
What's FFT? Sounds like it's something to do with teensy?
nimble jackal
Our dino days are numbered, @eager sapphire :)
distant harbor
Well there ya go
fickle umbra
@nocturne turtle Fast Fourier transform
eager sapphire
The world will always need an assembly language programmer.
nimble egret
Yeah I remember @Tony mentioning jupyter in one of his stream
heavy siren
@eager sapphire YES assembly language. gotta love it.
nocturne turtle
Isn't circuit python also a bit easier than normal python?
fickle umbra
Suddenly I want to make cookies
heavy siren
@nocturne turtle Not necessarily.
shell mason
trinket m0
vital bane
Oh @hard hollow and @rocky reef CircuitPython cookie cutters!
nocturne turtle
@heavy siren Ok, I thought Ladyada said that in a different video
distant harbor
I have a bunch of the original trinkets, it'd be nice to snag a M0 trinket soon
nimble jackal
But that's the catch, @eager sapphire. Just one. When the AI starts designing the processors, it will also create the compiler. I predict the last human-built compiler will happen in our lifetime.
nocturne turtle
Surely glitter nail polish helps?! ๐
kind thicket
frankenstien was the doctor not the monster
nimble jackal
My Trinket M0s arrived yesterday. Can't wait to dig in.
kind thicket
i hope no blue smoke lonmakes
distant harbor
You snagged one of those quick @nimble jackal!
shell mason
nimble egret
Do you guys know Mr Bean character is actually an Electric Engineer?..
Forgot his name
fallow fractal
Hey all... makecode question follow up. It seems to be generating javascript code which says it can run on the Circuit Playground Express... but I'm not clear on how you run javascript on there?
nimble jackal
Heh, @distant harbor . I set up a IFTT alert and had the rest of cart ready to go,
pearl shoal
My favorite thing about Python is the fact that I can send updates to parents of kids who use AT and they can update it without an IDE
hoary igloo
Thats so me cant code by i would like to add program to my projects
eager sapphire
Rowan Atkinson?
vital bane
@fallow fractal you can click download and it will make a binary file that you drag and drop on the board.
fickle umbra
@open girder and SOMETIMES (depending on things we haven't pinned down yet) You can change Circuit Python code on the board from your phone!
pearl shoal
Installing/using Arduino is a big deal and kind of a deal breaker for many of them.
distant harbor
@nimble jackal genius
nimble egret
@eager sapphire yeah there you go
eager sapphire
He's also painfully funny
Perhaps the evolution from python is to the black adder
fallow fractal
@vital bane the .uf2 file? I don't have a circutplayground yet (though might need to pickup a few for a demo)
nimble jackal
I was down to 2 Trinkets anyway, @distant harbor . It was time to order. :)
honest night
I need to get my hands on a Trinket
vital bane
@fallow fractal yes
open girder
@hoary igloo circuit python is on circuit playground - that's very FLORA like
nocturne turtle
@hoary igloo Maybe if it's a flora m0... if that even exists? ๐ฌ
vital bane
@fallow fractal make sure it's the circuitplayground EXPRESS
distant harbor
Gema M0
pearl shoal
Tell her the holy grail of Music AT is "sight reading" music (realtime playing music you've never heard) for the blind (ideas would be welcome ๐
brisk bough
Does Gemma run python?
shell mason
using Jupyter and circuitpython in same code editor like vs code https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=donjayamanne.jupyter
distant harbor
@brisk bough the gema M0 does
lilac eagle
The m0 does @brisk bough
open girder
yup, new gemma m0 does
nimble jackal
St. Thomas name check? I'm like 5 blocks from Minneapolis campus
rain river
is my fav
shell mason
loves Jupyter
fallow fractal
@vital bane yeah was noting the seems to be a difference...
brisk bough
so the difference between like Gemma M0 and Trinket M0 is that Gemma is for wearables? Trinkett for robotics and led projects?
open girder
@nimble jackal yup! https://twitter.com/amptmn?lang=en
Twitter
velvet beacon
@nimble jackal yep, that's the one ๐
lilac eagle
I think it's form factor and so on
distant harbor
GEMA M0 is for wearables Trinket M0 is small form factor
lilac eagle
The trinket is for tiiiiny projects. But doesn't have some of the wearable features.
brisk bough
got it thanks
lilac eagle
Like the alligator clip/conductive thread pads.
nocturne turtle
Adafruit says that trinket m0 is out of stock already! Guess everyone is really excited! ๐
nimble egret
@open girder what would be the advantages of using Python database development?
heavy siren
The BIGGEST problem with Python is also its GREATEST strength. Dynamic Data Typing.
rain river
I plan on using a trinket for a pH sensor and connect it to a bluetooth chip sending data to an app created in mit app inventor 2
fickle umbra
@brisk bough Kinda? the trinket is going to give you more pins to work with while staying small, and the Gemma is good for stuff where you don't so much need the pincount, and want to keep it simple and maybe have battery jack built in?
lilac eagle
@nocturne turtle they've said they're cranking out a lot more already
eager sapphire
Text parsing in Python is outstanding, that's one + for importing any kind of text
nocturne turtle
@lilac eagle Awesome!
nimble egret
- in a database development?
hoary igloo
Does tony have step by step how to use python??
velvet beacon
@nocturne turtle @lilac eagle yep and we're giving some away today!
eager sapphire
If you needed to import strangely formatted data for database v0.1, yes
distant harbor
@velvet beacon yayyyt
inner gyro
trinket m0 $8.95 is practically free
lilac eagle
My absolute favorite part about Python is the loop structure
kind thicket
he doesnt call her lada ada ? how rood
open girder
brisk bough
trinket m0 is only 8.95? wow
pearl shoal
(not (miss (I (and (scheme (all (the parenthesis)))))
heavy siren
I want the M0 to measure the time between sound detected by two microphones acting as ears.
shell mason
where everyone are?
eager sapphire
LOL @pearl shoal
nocturne turtle
@hoary igloo This might be one, Im not sure? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoBJG3Taq_Y
distant harbor
@open girder are you guys going to do a trinket M0 6pk?
rain river
Dope!
velvet beacon
lilac eagle
I need a 1 pack first!
nocturne turtle
They're all black... how did I not notice that earlier??
eager sapphire
LISP drove me insane, and it was a short trip, sure
fickle umbra
@open girder is the trinket the same board thickness as the new Gemmas?
kind thicket
adafruit black ๐
eager sapphire
Without auto-paren matching in your text editor, LISP is torture
vital bane
so tiny
nocturne turtle
Interesting to see one with a dotstar!
kind thicket
crunch board...no work no more...
inner gyro
lisp is torture eve with auto-paren matching
eager sapphire
That, too.
heavy siren
Is it 5 volt tolerant???
severe inlet
@eager sapphire, yeah, so many parentheses with Scheme.
rain river
Rechargeable batteries?
pearl shoal
I will make a capacitive touch -> HID Kbd interface for AT users with NOTHING but an M0 and some Bare conductive paint ๐
vital bane
@heavy siren could give it 5v through the usb
eager sapphire
Pretty sure I have some leftover unclosed statements from long ago, so: )))))))))))))))
ivory kiln
What differences, if any are there in comparison to the gemma MO?
lilac eagle
Lisp -based paren karmic imbalance?
eager sapphire
Yes
heavy siren
@vital bane Yes, I know, but is the i2c and gpio 5v tolerant.
eager sapphire
That's the source of my misery!
vital bane
ah
brisk bough
can you use the lower power arduino libraries to bring down the power usage?
rain river
Awesome!
distant harbor
@heavy siren the original trinkets came in two flavors. 3v and 5v
velvet beacon
@rain river Power with either USB or external output (such as a battery) - it'll automatically switch over
blazing atlas
cool!
distant harbor
The six pack I was referring to had 3 of each
nimble egret
@open girder with circuit Python code , will it consume more batt power compared to an Arduino code?
kind thicket
pogo sticks!
nocturne turtle
Maybe a new backpack idea for the trinket?
severe inlet
Is the Trinket M0 a lot narrower than Feathers? Anyway to use Featherwings with it?
nocturne turtle
That is the new one
distant harbor
@eager sapphire yes
heavy siren
But if my sensor is 5 volts using 12c, will i need a level shifter to talk to the trinket.
distant harbor
@heavy siren correct
rain river
Is circuit python preferred over the arduino code?
vital bane
@rain river depends on what you are doing
blazing atlas
@severe inlet probably not the same pin outs
nimble egret
@open girder thanks
inner spade
Would be nice to see PowerBoosts with +5 and +3.3v to help with transition from 5v to 3.3v. Is there a possibility?
nocturne turtle
@open girder Isn't 5v theoretically better?
inner spade
... both 5v and 3.3v
fallow fractal
How does using a 3.3v board affect using 5v NeoPixels?
distant harbor
@nocturne turtle not necessarily
lilac eagle
As long as you power neopixels with 3.3 as well you're okay, right?
nocturne turtle
@distant harbor Yeah, probably wouldn't even notice anyway
fickle umbra
@fallow fractal probably a little bit of a brightness difference, prolly not much
vital bane
@fallow fractal I had to use a level shifter to get a strand of neopixels to work..
lilac eagle
The board output needs to match the neopixel power voltage
distant harbor
You can throw in a setup voltage regulator
vital bane
@fallow fractal but I had a 5v power supply for the pixels so I dunno.
distant harbor
I've used a NeoPixel ring with 3.3v just fine
vital bane
there ladyada just answered
eager sapphire
They're already TOO BRIGHT heh
heavy siren
Do the analog io have hardware interupts
velvet beacon
trinket giveaway!!
brisk bough
yeah
distant harbor
@velvet beacon yassss
eager sapphire
Which part is running the burner on that board?
rain river
Yay
vital bane
brisk bough
kind thicket
short circuit
shell mason
Trinket party
mint harness
I still have one of the original trinkets from when they first launched
distant harbor
lilac eagle
@vital bane don't get my hopes up!
fallow fractal
Wouldn't connecting a 5v powered NeoPixel strip to a 3.3v board be a bad idea?
vital bane
@lilac eagle I'll buy you one if you don't win one.
eager sapphire
Teensy 3/6 roger that thanks
distant harbor
Trinkets for all!!!
gritty viper
How exciting!
nocturne turtle
@Ryder She said that it would just be dimmer by a bit
fallow fractal
@vital bane Just ordered a Circuit Playground Express Educator's Pack thanks for your help
eager sapphire
Is that board using level converters or is it all 3.3v?
vital bane
@fallow fractal I have that pack it is great!
nimble egret
Cortex M4f on a teensy 3.6 right?
frail flame
Hello from Harvey observation post #13 Austin Texas
eager sapphire
Empathy testers, brilliant, the real connection with the user makes for a superior product
blazing atlas
Do you keep a collection of old/discontinued testers?
shell mason
Rosie CI
open girder
@blazing atlas we do!
rain river
What's up @frail flame
blazing atlas
@open girder museum ๐
kind thicket
what is that top board again?
fallow fractal
@open girder can we get a video of the Adafruit museum sometime?
eager sapphire
Sneak in another question about that burner board? Is it pure 3.3v?
pearl shoal
You might remind folks that there's a Teensy->Feather Adapter ๐
nimble egret
@kind thicket teensy 3.6
inner gyro
@kind thicket you mean the teensy?
kind thicket
what had the sd card in it
nocturne turtle
distant harbor
The adaloger did
kind thicket
oh thanks
nimble egret
@kind thicket yeah
ivory kiln
How well wld micro python do with robotics?
rain river
What are we looking at?
open girder
a tester for our products
pearl shoal
Watching Limor test is like watching Micah teardown or Colin solder -> Good TV ๐
kind thicket
their older tester
inner gyro
@kind thicket https://www.adafruit.com/product/3266
kind thicket
thanks evanr
rain river
Oh okay
nimble egret
@open girder. Is the tester injecting codes to run on a test board? Is that how it determines if board passed?
inner spade
I usually design a tester for each of my one-off projects. Even if the tester isn't built, it gets me thinking about potential project errors. I have a collection of tester circuit board designs (not printed).
kind thicket
a giveaway you say?
fallow fractal
Yay giveaway!
remote raptor
Giveaway time?
brisk bough
trinket m0
nimble egret
Yea!
rain river
Awesome
flint saffron
ooo i would love some of them for code club
lilac walrus
Yay!
remote raptor
nice
kind thicket
giveway mosfet ๐
honest night
Woohoo
void ether
hurray!
clear matrix
Yah!
distant harbor
Trinket M0!!!
heavy siren
The M0 sure would be a great birthday present...
distant harbor
Yayyy
uncut pollen
I'm not chatting because I'm trying to work, but I still want a trinket...๐
blazing atlas
kinda sounds fun to do testing @open girder
velvet beacon
giveaway time! yasss!
fickle umbra
Slackware install using 37 floppies......
pearl shoal
Slackware .99 patchlevel 14 on floppies ๐
distant harbor
Woot woot!
shell mason
ohm bit stab
boreal grotto
Giveaway!
eager sapphire
Dang, the cell does not function in the cave
flint saffron
international?
rain river
How do you call it
kind thicket
meh not me ๐ฆ
boreal grotto
I just want to experiment with the trinket. I love making things but I don't have the money to do it.
blazing atlas
kinda reminds me of calling in the radio station for a request, except you win ;D
remote raptor
What is this letters for numbers?
pearl shoal
Ha! I'm 10 miles from Port Richey Florida ๐
fallow fractal
Can you give away like 2 more?
distant harbor
I won a couple weeks ago called during ask an engineer
velvet beacon
Congrats Scott from Florida!
kind thicket
gee ryder....
boreal grotto
How do i win?
velvet beacon
@kuricus what did you win?
distant harbor
Didn't win a trinket though lol
inner gyro
phone keypads have letters on them, so the letters map to number keys
nocturne turtle
646 842 1288 I think
fallow fractal
@kind thicket just trying to make it fun for 2 more people
boreal grotto
I just joined so I don't know how to win
rain river
Idk how to call in this app
frail flame
@rain river Doing great. Windy wet outside. Inside conditions nominal!
distant harbor
@velvet beacon TPL5111
boreal grotto
Yeah I need help
velvet beacon
@distant harbor nice!
fallow fractal
You need to call their number with a phone @rain river @boreal grotto
velvet beacon
Congrats, Ryan!
blazing atlas
tejasmj i think its via phone
distant harbor
@velvet beacon it's a watchdog timer to keep low power projects even more low power lol
runic acorn
Yay, I won
boreal grotto
So when do I call
frail flame
Congrats!!1
restive beacon
Congrats, Ryan!
distant harbor
@velvet beacon Yup! :)
boreal grotto
What number do I call
runic acorn
Thank you! Yay Buffalo NY
distant harbor
@runic acorn congrats!!!
kind thicket
oh was ringing for m e but then voice mail ๐ฆ
velvet beacon
@runic acorn yay!
boreal grotto
What's the phone number?
frail flame
I won a copy of Make on Ask An ngineer so I can never win again
distant harbor
@kind thicket leave a nice voice mail then. They play them to the team
velvet beacon
two more trinkets!!
boreal grotto
What's the phone number?
frail flame
the number is onscreen
boreal grotto
What screen?
shell mason
not close to phone
frail flame
ohm-bit-stab
boreal grotto
I'm on my discord app
pearl shoal
@boreal grotto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCIEcx-4Ibo&feature=push-lbss&attr_tag=q6zdfXKo2VvtARF3-6
fallow fractal
ohhh that's what ohm-bit-stab is lol...
velvet beacon
last winner - drumroll....
blazing atlas
๐ฐ
frail flame
646-248-7822
kind thicket
well least they are not expensive to buy ๐
vital bane
awe sad when you are dialing and you hear it ring on video...
nocturne turtle
Dang, I tried at least!
fickle umbra
I have been trinket-blocked by Hurricane Harvey ๐ฆ
nimble egret
Wow it's hard to connect...
frail flame
Oprah would give everyone one
fallow fractal
Google voice has a delay when dialing :/
blazing atlas
TrinketParty o/
lilac eagle
I'll save my ohm bit stab luck for ask an engineer...
kind thicket
get that pick n place machine going
inner gyro
need mor etesters ๐
nocturne turtle
Thanks Adafruit even though I didn't win!
shell mason
trinket M0 is out of stock still?
brisk bough
lilac eagle
Yeah, thanks!
fickle umbra
San Antonio is just British levels of damp at the moment
frail flame
thanks Phil
kind thicket
yes but making more janisku7
shell mason
I was out of luck with calls
distant harbor
Thank you Adafruit for everything you do!!!
eager sapphire
"British Levels Of Damp" - nice
shell mason
no phone near me
nimble egret
@fickle umbra sorry to hear that. Is it bad out there?
fickle umbra
@eager sapphire it's accurate...
vital bane
@shell mason google voice...
velvet beacon
Thanks, y'all! this has been fun
frail flame
the observation post part was a joke.. Dave keepin it weird here
velvet beacon
big shout out to Carol Willing for joining us today!
fickle umbra
@nimble egret Nah, we're ok... low watter crossings are, of course, being crossed, but not much else
pearl shoal
CircuitPython Question: I know the boards reset when you change the main .py file - do the reset when you change included files (like config files?)
boreal grotto
Awwww. I wanted one to lear to program on. Shoot. Maybe next time!
nimble jackal
Delightful interview.
velvet beacon
Twitter
fickle umbra
@pearl shoal I think it resets on any write, but I could be VERY wrong there... gimmie a few and I can test for ya
frail flame
Another great show. They need an Adafruit Roku channel. Someday
shell mason
TrinketParty and coding the same time
nimble egret
Thumbs up to Carol!
lilac eagle
@fickle umbra that's my philosophy too! I'm more than willing to test if a box of surprises shows up at my door...
nimble egret
Thank you @open girder
ivory kiln
This is Danon from NY. Lol, told daughter Mia that she gets to pick the first project & she screened with excitment.
fickle umbra
@lilac eagle I meant a couple minutes ๐
frail flame
@ivory kiln That is cool
nimble egret
@ivory kiln congratulations! Will it be on show and tell?
nocturne turtle
https://www.adafruit.com/product/3500 It's out of stock but you can hit the notify me button!
ivory kiln
Absolutely, she & I both love show & tell
frail flame
Great party
fickle umbra
@pearl shoal my gemma resets on any save to the 'disk'
kind thicket
fun s how though i wish chat was just in twitter. I only have one monitor so have to have two windows side by side for this.
velvet beacon
Thanks everyone!
shell mason
digikey have even emailed me they catalog
blazing atlas
byeee!
vital bane
thanks!
fallow fractal
Bye!!
nocturne turtle
It's over ๐ฆ
restive beacon
bye!
stiff remnant
Bye!
gritty viper
Great stream, wish more places did something like this!
frail flame
Yay!
eager sapphire
Thx guys
heavy siren
Good Bye World!
nimble egret
Bye!
vital bane
Now lets make something!
frail flame
Making a Biped Bob right now
kind thicket
i should play with the old trinkets i go
nimble egret
Back to soldering
kind thicket
mmmm solder fumes
ivory kiln
Great show guys. Thanks again!
nimble egret
@kind thicket Lol
shell mason
think someway to giveaway in the discord chat
nimble egret
Not good
pearl shoal
Thank you @fickle umbra
inner gyro
I really got to start using the discount codes I'm collecting
frail flame
Bye guys. See you on the other side
fickle umbra
@pearl shoal More than welcome.
shell mason
giveaway those who talk in the chat in the liveshow
kind thicket
if they used twitter there are plug ins or such to giveaway stuff in that chat
kind thicket
shrugh i like it better
fallow fractal
Do you mean twitch @kind thicket ?
kind thicket
oh yes...twitch sorry
lilac eagle
Ohhh okay then yeah, that would work if they wanted to
But they seem to be pretty all-in on Discord
fallow fractal
Plus they're a Discord partner
vital bane
Discord has been pretty nice.
nocturne turtle
Discord is great!
kind thicket
guess ill need to buy a second monitor finally hehe
vital bane
@kind thicket 3 is a minimum...
kind thicket
im a pleb
shell mason
I have server in twitch and in discord
kind thicket
i normally dont buy stuff till it breaks..so buying something extra is hard. and my 3d printer died so need to save for new one
if discord allowed me to minimize the name list and server list that would make chat area alot bigger
shell mason
you can build using foam
vital bane
@kind thicket mine came from work when they were getting rid of a bunch..
kind thicket
oh very nice cmfly
fallow fractal
@kind thicket you can minimize the name list by clicking the people button in the upper right
kind thicket
everywhere ive worked stuff goes back to leasing company
oh nifty ryder
welp im a bit off feeling so catch ya later
fallow fractal
hope you're feeling better soon ๐
kind thicket
thanks
ivory kiln
Adjusting for pin numbers & pin quantity. Will micro python programs done on Circuit playgraound carry over to the new trinket MO & gemma MO?
vital bane
They should as far as I can tell.
there might be a couple things removed. I'd ask in #circuitpython-dev
ivory kiln
K, thanks @vital bane
fickle umbra
@ivory kiln the builtin RGB on the gemma (and I think the trinket, you might wanna check me on that) are DotStars, not NeoPixels, so something to keep in mind
green pagoda
Awww, I missed the party
vital bane
@green pagoda watch on youtube and slowly scroll though the chat ๐
river peak
@fickle umbra I think the Trinket was called a NeoPixel on the New Products video
fickle umbra
Product page says DotStar
green pagoda
@vital bane that's why discord is amazing
vital bane
if there was a #replaybroadcast channel we could gather likeminded people and all press play at the same time...
river peak
There's places to jointly stream existing video
uneven girder
You could use https://togethertube.com/ or https://cytu.be/
ivory kiln
That's ok @fickle umbra , all I have right now is dotstars. Thanks for the heads up.
Is there anyone in Discord still that might have any idea of about when the Trinket MO might b back in stock?? I'd love to add 3 of them to the order that I'm putting together this week.
river peak
@ivory kiln Never. They're never being made ever again. They're following the Nintendo model.
ivory kiln
Sorry @river peak joke is lost on me, I'm not a gamer so I don't get the Nintendo reference. What did they make something really good & then discontinue it for either no reason, or some a** backward stupid reason?
river peak
The NES and SNES "Classic" editions are/were only made in extremely small quantities, despite the fact that there's HUGE demand for them
ivory kiln
Ahh, gotcha. Really? why on earth the heck wld they do something so stupid?!?
lilac eagle
Because they want people to use retropie I guess
river peak
it makes sure that they sell EVERYTHING. And also increases the demand for the next one.
ivory kiln
Ah, ok I see. still think they prob cut there own throat but hay like that's new in the corporate world.
upper latch
Missed the party! Dang it!
paper peak
@kind thicket You can minimize the name list by clicking on the silhouettes icon (mouse over says "Member List") to the left of the search box in the upper right corner. It toggles dispalying the member list.
rapid hornet
@ivory kiln I know its on the list to make more Trinkets and Gemmas but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a few weeks. Not exactly sure
ivory kiln
Gotcha. Thanks @rapid hornet , that's exactly what I wanted to find out. Whether or not I should hold off my order. A few days or a week is no prob, but my daughter Bday present is apart of this order so I can't wait too long. Lol, She is going to plotz herself when she sees that she's getting a Circuit playground express educator pack. Lol, the lunch box alone... she's going to scream like, well a like a (a very loud) lil girl. lol She's turning 8. ๐
rapid hornet
@ivory kiln Yay! I just got one for a neighbor and hope to give it to him today. I think hes ten
ivory kiln
Lol. very awesome @rapid hornet , I bet he's going to love it.
past pawn
Is this where I can query show times?
rapid hornet
?showtimes
arctic abyssBOT
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell (YT only) - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
Desk of Tony D - Evenings PST Fridays
past pawn
Thank you!
rapid hornet
np ๐
past pawn
Is the trinket m0 thingadoo today? @rapid hornet
fickle umbra
And I'm blaming Harvey on not getting a trinket.
rapid hornet
I haven't finished watching it. I missed it live too
worth rewatching though. carol is awesome
glossy glacier
Here are a couple of photos from the on going stream tonight. The show the scintillator and light pipe I am working on.
blazing atlas
Looks like a mic head :3
glossy glacier
One of my high voltage connectors is in poor shape. The pin should be fully extended, not back in the housing...
glossy glacier
Soon to be put in the SEM (after risc5...), 3d printed metal parts!
And after I get image quality back...
blazing atlas
Ooh, heavy?
fickle umbra
That... that really doesn't look like a layer deposit
glossy glacier
As much as one would expect. High carbon steel.
If you zoom in you can see layers. This was the best print they had to date.
rapid hornet
is scott who won the trinket here? I have a cat with epilepsy too
fickle umbra
Aww poor kitty
rapid hornet
he has a pretty good life all up though
open girder
...
rapid hornet
something coming? more mariokart? ;-P
blazing atlas
Flora M0
shell mason
Flora M0 with AdaKart M0
glossy glacier
SEM stream coming up soon! I have to rebuild some vacuum componets, and then back to scaning cool things!
glossy glacier
Stream is live! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb_v3Hwa40W7ZU-qgV8KOMA/live
rocky reef
and we are 3d printing live on youtube.com/live
shell mason
@rocky reef discord need http tag in the link
rocky reef
i figured lol
heavy siren
Hello World!
pastel pike
can you stop the spam in youtube chat?
untold ember
HI MOM IM ON YT! Btw i love the raspberry pi videos! Greetings from the netherlands!
fringe swift
I think Phil said that you can make Twitch not suck with an ad blocker.
heavy siren
I like the Discord chat in the youtube screen.
eager sapphire
Audio seems to come and go there
pastel pike
audio keeps going out
fallow fractal
Can't watch live this week, but will definitely watch later!
fringe swift
When ever you cut between scenes, it seems.
heavy siren
You got an intermitent connection somewhere
rocky reef
sorry folks, new set up
fringe swift
Honestly, It's kinda fun to watch everyone learn about all this.
heavy siren
Do not worry. We're hackers, remember...
fringe swift
Yeah!
untold ember
How are you guys doing today?
heavy siren
Quick Question, How long is LUCITE good for.
shell mason
LUCITE want you
fringe swift
The code, I think
rocky reef
we don't think theres a shelf life for it @heavy siren
heavy siren
Is it lit with white LEDs or is the color coming from a filter
shell mason
I have some unused acrylic
rocky reef
oh the code is good until 11:59 est
heavy siren
Is there a charger onboard for the lipo???
rocky reef
yes!
heavy siren
Perfect.
shell mason
Purrfect
heavy siren
Can one side be red and the other blue at the same time?
rocky reef
@heavy siren oh cool idea, you could also have single leds over each letter to have them๏ปฟ be different colors
rocky reef
ah great idea!
heavy siren
Will make my UP Star out of acrylic instead of 3D printing it.
I am prototyping a sound location processor using 3 mics and need to mount them 8 inches apart with M0 procerssor.
untold ember
What was your motivation to do these projects?
heavy siren
Have you used lasers on the acrylic
Wondering if effect is different then milling
laser etching
have 500mW with uArm
fallow fractal
Make a old nikon 3d printed decor
shell mason
I have engraved acrylic with dremel
heavy siren
was that cut out with a bandsaw?
shell mason
now @hard hollow need to light it up that hand engraved sign
heavy siren
How about an acrylic panel with the touch pad over it.
A control panel
Good Bye World!
shell mason
@heavy siren think project to acrylic and have touch pad over it
fringe swift
Always awesome! Thanks!
rocky reef
thanks for hanging out with guys!
open girder
...
shell mason
test @open girder right?
open girder
yupz
shell mason
@open girder twitch have some issues right now twitch support tweeted that they are fixing the problem
shell mason
that is cool when one place have issues that time other places support it
regal garnet
I like watching on YouTube
rapid hornet
frail flame
Hiya
regal garnet
Cool eyeballs!
rapid hornet
whoa giant eyes
frail flame
oooohhhh cool eyeball
regal garnet
creepy
ripe blade
Did I miss the link to join?
rapid hornet
ripe blade
K. It's full at this point.
waxen thistle
Anyone have a link to the sphereical display he's showing?
rapid hornet
@low fractal is PhilB
mint harness
just a headsup, Twitch is having MASSIVE issues tonight, so odds are there will be no stream there.
low fractal
@waxen thistle Google 'round for "Gakken WorldEye"
waxen thistle
thanks @low fractal
regal garnet
Live python coding!
rapid hornet
yay!
frail flame
we want to believe
frail flame
well done mr dan
vital bane
Is that what the microbit uses for temperature?
fading meadow
@paper peak nice demo! Congratulations on getting the temperature working!
haughty quiver
that rocked @glossy glacier
lilac eagle
All the kids are super overexposed
severe inlet
Nice, Phil and Adam can have dueling microscope videos
lilac eagle
Heck yeah @glossy glacier
rapid hornet
and we can hear he's in discord ๐
open girder
10% off all items in stock code is MERMAID expires 8/30/17 @ 11:59pm ET #askanengineer http://www.adafruit.com @open girder
velvet beacon
so great @glossy glacier
frail flame
This is the best night of the week for me
lilac eagle
These would all be great album covers
tacit pine
ello all
rapid hornet
hi @tacit pine
frail flame
greetings
heavy siren
Electrons into Photons???
rapid hornet
yay @lilac eagle !
haughty quiver
that rules.
regal garnet
Best work prank ever!
velvet beacon
haha that's awesome
vital bane
too funny
tacit pine
annoy-a-tron from hell
glossy glacier
Yup @heavy siren , Scintilator and then to a photo multipler tube.
regal garnet
Blinky eye fez! Cool
lilac eagle
Live demos ๐ญ
severe inlet
@glossy glacier is the scintillator used in your SEM hygroscopic? Could the casing on the bad one have cracked or otherwise been exposed to air?
lilac eagle
The only thing better than a fez is a fez with an eye
regal garnet
He should be at Burning Man!
rapid hornet
it worked well @lilac eagle
waxen thistle
Those video displays for the eyes run around $160 on ebay. ๐ ๐
haughty quiver
the Gakken one, right @waxen thistle even more now!
@low fractal created a run on them
low fractal
looks innocent
glossy glacier
@severe inlet No (thank goodness), it is known as a p-47 scintilator. They just wear out after a while, but the failure mode was odd.
waxen thistle
Haha, these are the buy-it-now prices. @low fractal Is that what they were going for (ballpark) when you got yours?
regal garnet
If they are selling for $160, I'm putting mine up there!!
low fractal
Yeah, was around $160 on Amazon at the time. Now it's like $220 or so. So eBay is the hot tip for now.
regal garnet
oh -- nevermind. You must be referring to the huge hdmi thingy not the 1.5" TFT screens
haughty quiver
I like the idea of Circuit Playground as UI for Feather
rapid hornet
yeah, that box looks super cool
earnest echo
Mike's project is really cool.
lilac eagle
I love that skirt!!!
frail flame
Good luck @ school!
velvet beacon
great show and tell!
frail flame
Thank you presenters
heavy siren
Good Bye World!
vital bane
fun show ๐
waxen thistle
Let's see if they have any luck with Twitch
....and i can't even load the page. so probably not.
nocturne turtle
Now we've got to wait for Ask an Engineer
green pagoda
@glossy glacier hi!
glossy glacier
@green pagoda Always fun to get a new shop!
velvet beacon
@nocturne turtle the suspense! ๐
nocturne turtle
Sadly I missed most of show and tell :(
vital bane
love the idea for circuitplayground as the input and display for the feather!
nocturne turtle
@velvet beacon yep!
velvet beacon
@nocturne turtle always next week! but just in time for AanE
green pagoda
@glossy glacier yeah, my shop kinda moves with me. I had a really nice setup at home with a soldering station but I can't use it here because it will set off a fire alarm and there are already too many of those. Part of it is on a cart so I can take it to a lab
vital bane
I've always wondered what happens between show and tell and ask an engineer.
velvet beacon
@vital bane top secret
vital bane
lol totally
eager sapphire
LIVE entry not showing up on Adafruit's youtube page, had to get there via youtube/user/adafruit/live
vital bane
one day I'm sure it will be on periscope
rapid hornet
waxen thistle
@rapid hornet Can you post a link to AanE when it's.....oh you literally just did. Good chap ๐
nocturne turtle
There is the sound!
rapid hornet
๐
ivory kiln
Are you guys not broadcasting on YouTube anymore? Can't find the link on your YouTube page?
fallow fractal
vital bane
@ivory kiln it's there
fallow fractal
It should be live... now! ๐
regal garnet
Team Ada! ๐
vital bane
๐
frail flame
new new new new
ivory kiln
Sry its thr now. So used to it being posted long before the show.
glossy glacier
@green pagoda Thats to bad about the soldering. Breadboard for the win I guess.
waxen thistle
Team Ada vs Team Random Electrical Shocks! ๐
frail flame
aka Phi;;ip right
velvet beacon
mermaid YAY!
blazing atlas
hi all \o/
rapid hornet
@ivory kiln its no longer scheduled so it works with restream.io
nocturne turtle
@frail flame They seem to release so many new products!
vital bane
@green pagoda solder out in the courtyard...
frail flame
@nocturne turtle They are the center of the universe?
ivory kiln
Ahh gotcha @rapid hornet , thanks
frail flame
Maker universe
nocturne turtle
Yes they are
rapid hornet
no problem @ivory kiln
distant harbor
easy peezy
vital bane
set it to your homepage
fallow fractal
vital bane
12000 wow
regal garnet
I want same-day in California!!
vital bane
do you have a map of the sameday zipcodes?
glossy glacier
Now that show and tell is over, I can open the door and turn the fan on. It climed 10 degrees in here just during show and tell...
verbal mesa
Hi, some news with SAMD51?
open girder
10% off all items in stock code is MERMAID expires 8/30/17 @ 11:59pm๏ปฟ ET #askanengineer http://www.adafruit.com @open girder
fallen rivet
The news is that it's 30 more than the SAMD21.
nocturne turtle
@glossy glacier Guess it's a million degrees there too? ๐
fallen rivet
Did anyone try Twitch? All I get is a blank page.
rapid hornet
Twitter
glossy glacier
It is 78 outside right now.
frail flame
@glossy glacier My bedroom gets like that during 3D printing.. No fan - no AC
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa I was working on porting CircuitPython to the SAMD51 today
glossy glacier
@frail flame Better layer adhesion?
verbal mesa
the GitHub samd51 branch didn't updated for 27 days now..
frail flame
Better results overall I hope
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/asf4
verbal mesa
@rapid hornet actually I'm looking for native support in Arduino ide, I cannot get the SPI and I2C to work.
vital bane
LadyAda is like a medic at burning man.
rapid hornet
ah, I thought they had the basics going
nocturne turtle
Harmless pranks are great!
glossy glacier
Huury, the LEDs don't work! Someone call a MechE!
waxen thistle
If LadyAda plays FPS, she's be a support class like a Medic or Engineer.
verbal mesa
I just build my own board, and gpio is working, but cannot get SPI and I2C to work...
nocturne turtle
@waxen thistle I'm guessing engineer
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa I haven't gotten that far but I'm using ASF4
distant harbor
?users
blazing atlas
Would this help fix the issue between the Circuit Playground + Adabox 004 feather project? (sorry I don't know the user's discord name)
rapid hornet
?membercount
arctic abyssBOT
regal garnet
Hi mom!
waxen thistle
Well, I'm happy to be wrong ๐
nocturne turtle
@open girder With all these people, are you going to start earlier so you have more time?
verbal mesa
@rapid hornet I'm looking at your repo now...
rapid hornet
I'm still fussing with USB. Have you used ASF4 at all?
regal garnet
Yay sparky! I just had one of those last week.
verbal mesa
No, I got USB to work with Bossa bl
green pagoda
I love the sparky pins
velvet beacon
love learning experiences! we learn from mistakes!
glossy glacier
๐ฌ 
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa k, I think thats raw registers
distant harbor
Me too @velvet beacon!
regal garnet
We need a spark the blue smoke monster channel!
nocturne turtle
My only trinket pro I accidentally burned up, but I learned a lot at least!
rapid hornet
@regal garnet we were debating it but are trying to limit how many channels we have
rapid hornet
yup yup! we'll continue to fine tune it
verbal mesa
@rapid hornet adafruit repo have a branch for the SAMD51, and the serials should work, but I didn't got it actually working...
mint harness
along the lines of the DIY HDMI cable parts... Any USB C breakouts in the pipeline?
waxen thistle
Oh I missed Jupiter. Shucks.
rapid hornet
yeah, the arduino repo? dean hasn't been doing it recently but I thought they had all of the basics going
nocturne turtle
@mint harness I asked that last week, they will once it's mainstream.
velvet beacon
Twitter
rapid hornet
verbal mesa
The fork of the sand core from arduino
mint harness
@nocturne turtle Maybe USB C + a power delivery controller.. that would be pretty awesome.
distant harbor
@velvet beacon You have a Twitter? I follow Carol already
nocturne turtle
@mint harness Sure would!
velvet beacon
rapid hornet
USB C is a lot pricier than micro USB now
verbal mesa
@rapid hornet https://github.com/adafruit/ArduinoCore-samd/tree/samd51
mint harness
it is, but USB C is gaining adoption. And if you want the power... only other choice is a propritary thing like Qualcomm's QuickCharge
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa thats the right place to watch
nocturne turtle
Yeah micro is kinda old now
velvet beacon
@distant harbor sure do ๐
@distant harbor https://twitter.com/stellastriegel
Twitter
rapid hornet
@nocturne turtle cost matters more than age to @fallow fractal I think
I'd love to get to USB C though for my sanity
waxen thistle
The mainframe/server w/ thin client vs powerful client cycle continues...
vital bane
all around nice person ๐
nocturne turtle
Right, I'm saying that is probably why it's cheaper
severe inlet
I first played Oregon Trail on a teletype
rapid hornet
@nocturne turtle oh yeah, totally
waxen thistle
That cycle of thin/thick client is a big thing right now in enterprise IT, we're seeing it transition again.
nocturne turtle
@velvet beacon just followed!
mint harness
yeesh, just spotted one breakout, but it's $10
velvet beacon
@severe inlet oregon trail ๐ i died from dysentery way too much
mint harness
at that price point, I'd be better off just whipping something up with OSHpark
rapid hornet
yay OSHPark
velvet beacon
@nocturne turtle ๐
mint harness
It's more just having enough copper that 20V @ 5A for full PD is possible
vital bane
@haughty quiver I am not sure that is a legal opening move..
verbal mesa
@rapid hornet yep. I'm using it, and serials aren't working, I used logic analyzer to check, and clock is not performing, and I've tried variety of pins muxing configs, no luck at the moment .
fallow fractal
Hello!
amber silo
"Juypter".... How Did Python Become A Data Science Powerhouse? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9by46AAqz70&t=926s
velvet beacon
mermaid !
regal garnet
JohnParkLive is always fun to watch!
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa feel free to drop an issue on that account to coordinate with dean
by account I mean repo
mint harness
yeah, digikey has USB C connectors, so that's totally possible
verbal mesa
its blocked for some reason... ๐ฆ
waxen thistle
If you're interested in Data Science.... https://www.humblebundle.com/books/data-science-books
fickle umbra
shows up 20 minutes late with no starbucks
empty halo
what does everyone here recomend to learn first as a complete๏ปฟ beginner to programming C or Python and why?
velvet beacon
Twitter
rapid hornet
@verbal mesa email me scott@adafruit.com and I'll connect you
nocturne turtle
I don't think I could handle dealing with underwater electronics! ๐ฌ
fallow fractal
@fickle umbra Dont worry, I'm late too
verbal mesa
@rapid hornet Oh, thanks a lot for that!!! ๐
rapid hornet
no problem
vital bane
@empty halo I would say python or it is much more forgiving and I think you will get satisfaction much more quickly.
amber silo
I've got to get to Mexico! That looks awsome!
vital bane
Impressed with Erin's breath holding abilities!
regal garnet
How do you think she explained that to the TSA??
whole gale
@waxen thistle thanks for the Humble Bundle link
earnest echo
lol
open girder
oh twitch it down for everyone - it's not just us/you, ya'll - we're on youtube, facebook, and periscope - so all good ๐
acoustic tide
Nice lights!
amber silo
That link that I gave has a nice history that leads into the background of Jupyter. Not just about data science.
open girder
10% off all items in stock code is MERMAID expires 8/30/17 @ 11:59pm ET #askanengineer http://www.adafruit.com @open girder
eager sapphire
Outstanding mermaid costume, stunning
velvet beacon
amazing photos!
nocturne turtle
@adafruit With all these people on show and tell, are you going to start earlier so you have more time?
open girder
@nocturne turtle naa, we're around each week
we still gotta run an adafruit
and everyone can always hangout here ๐
nocturne turtle
Ok! ๐
open girder
we often, literally, are working to the last second, then do this, then go back to work ๐
empty halo
so can anyone recomend me any python recources/
vital bane
@empty halo https://www.learnpython.org/
zinc river
Im familiar with C++, Java, and Python along with arduino and basic circuitry. I was wondering if the esp 8266 esp-12E running arduino is a good place to start for networking and internet of things?
paper peak
open girder
@empty halo the vid wit carol and ladyada had a lot of resources too
empty halo
thanks for all the tips ๐
opal wolf
I've been trying to learn Python myself.
vital bane
@zinc river I found the feather huzzah to be a good start for IOT
rapid hornet
@empty halo video link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCIEcx-4Ibo
empty halo
thank you
rapid hornet
@zinc river yup, think so. or raspberry pi
eager sapphire
WIring always needs 5% more slack than you expect
regal garnet
That silicone wire is awesome!
nocturne turtle
I'm planning to learn circuit playground as soon as I get an m0 (probably metro express)
opal wolf
The downside of the silicone wire is that the stretchiness of the insulation makes it harder to strip with one of those auto stripping tools.
velvet beacon
severe inlet
That was a lot better than the Animal Planet faux mermaid documentary.
glossy glacier
Neon bulbs under water? no no no no no no no
lilac eagle
I definitely have a lot of stuff in my cart now
velvet beacon
mermaids! ๐ฏ
lilac eagle
including a gemma m0 and metro m0
nocturne turtle
I think ladyada would get along with Linus
fallow fractal
Nice things!!
fickle umbra
@open girder I had a mermaid theatre as a kid to! Aquarena Springs!
nocturne turtle
"make it RGB!!!"
fallow fractal
@nocturne turtle RGB all the things!
empty halo
is this any good for learning python? : https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm-edu/
lilac eagle
wait but hamilton is good
waxen thistle
Neopixels....and Hamilton ๐
lilac eagle
YES ladyada ๐
velvet beacon
wowza! 1 year already!
regal garnet
wow, only a year? Thats a lotta work. Super cool
fallow fractal
That's some nice cake...
nocturne turtle
Wait for it..
rapid hornet
@empty halo most python tutorials will teach the same basics
lilac eagle
how does a hacker, tinker, son of a wire and a diode, stuck in the middle...
acoustic tide
To eat chocolate cake, one needs the antidote. I.E. Milk.
opal wolf
I did this course: https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-python
fallow fractal
Tell your video editor they're awesome :)
paper peak
@empty halo That tutorial uses an IDE (interactive development environment) that you don't really need with CircuitPython.
velvet beacon
@fallow fractal will do ๐
fallow fractal
@velvet beacon :)
empty halo
are there any good follow up python recources you can recomend as i hear most people struggle with follow up