there mght be some 3rd parties yeah but not for adafruit just yet
#live-broadcast-chat
sand lotus
hmm kinda seems like the line thing JP just showed off this week
good point, pico w might not have the rp2040 under the hood. actually i don't know what the pico w uses.
inner spade
Turtle-robot
sand lotus
i imagine they'll come out with a small TFT version like they did for the S2 and S3. a lot of people really seem to like the tft version. makes it convenient with built in board. display stuff instead of using bus objects.
i was going to ask if the turtle was a line bot. would make a lot of sense. i'm sure it's exceptional at line stuff. makes sense.
inner spade
Turtle is a good implementation of vector graphics (like old Evans-Sutherland displays without the refresh flicker). Great for learning; too slow for games.
sand lotus
oh yeah line bots are big in high school competitions. there are maze bot competitions too. they're wicked fast... like so fast they're a blur.
neat to see the code for those little microcontrollers have graphical impacts in many other projects
those are not the fastest i've seen, can't find any of the wicked fast ones that are so fast they're a blur.
modern night
morning all, hope everyone's day is starting well
inner spade
Learning mode can be random, statistical (based on run history from other mazes), or a simple wall-drag approach. Tough to get a fast run without learning the maze first.
You can always get out of a maze by dragging your hand on the wall. Eventually.
It’s corn maze season. Easy to test the theory. Always turning left is different than dragging your hand on the left wall.
Exactly.
sand lotus
That's the same thing taught to navy sailors to get out of ships. They're designed for it.
Only way that applies is if there's a closed door. That's why there are no doors in the maze competitions so after x amount of time if you don't find the exit you can revert to left hand wall mode.
the implications of that stuff for future robot urban room clearing is pretty obvious. a lot of military applications with anything to do with visual recognition.
inner spade
And to deal with moral dilemmas.
sand lotus
lidar is getting scary good. if you have lidar on your phone then your provider already has a high resolution scan of your entire house.
ornate bay
"correct" in quotes makes me think of the paperclip problem 😆
sand lotus
movie chappie touched on the morality of robots for security / police force. let's say a computer does eventually get as good as a human then we're in blade runner territory.. answer the question Leon!
the new iphones with lidar usually have 2 or more lenses
anyway my point is you start coding a harmless line bot and eventually the military might base your code for killing people in some random country. never know.
like in real genius, start out with lasers and a mirror and all of sudden they're vaporizing people from space.
😛
you haven't seen real genius or chappie? man those are great movies, add those to your watch list. both deal with programming morality.
modern night
fractal type drawing?
sand lotus
only time i've ever heard koch is the koch brothers empire and stock stuff.
is that known as a math formula or something?
ohh pretty
if that spins you've basically got macOS beachball
inner spade
Great stream today. Python with a side of robots and machine vision and ethics. Always interesting.
ornate bay
sand lotus
thanks for streaming
brazen chasm
Thank foamy
modern night
Thanks for the stream! Have a good one all!
smoky island
Thanks all see you later 👋
inner spade
Booster and flu shots yesterday. Feeling puny today. Hope yours goes better.
smoky island
I got both together like that last time around and it did knock me down pretty good. Going for only covid this time and I'll do flu in another week or two
waxen thistle
This is a bit of uncharted waters -- so the following might change or vary, so talk to your doctor first....
[I am not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV. I don't even own a TV...]
But the current advice I've heard is for those with other medical considerations (age, health problems, etc) is to get one vaccine at a time, with a 2-4 week gap between them, as it gives the body's immune system time to react to just one thing.
And given how the flu vaccine does wear off after a few months, it's been said to delay getting it until October or even early November, so that immunity may carry further into February & March.
And that both vaccines take about 2 weeks to reach the desired levels of immunity, so consider that with travel plans (such as, if you get it the day before Thanksgiving, don't expect it to protect you at a large family gathering).
So that's my plan. Covid booster around the 10th of October, then around the start of November get the Flu shot. Plus it disperses the misery from reactions, as I've had strong responses from past flu and Covid shots.
green bison
I just got my 4th covid and my flu at the same time
I always get my flu around now and never get sick. That's not exactly scientific but it's what I've got
pastel bison
Is there a schedule of dates and times for the live shows?
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - time for some newNEWnEw designs! https://youtu.be/iMfAyvOQ0-I
@pastel bison
JP's Product Pick of the Week - 4pm ET Tuesdays
3D Hangouts - 11am ET Wednesdays
Show & Tell - 7:30pm ET Wednesdays
Ask an Engineer - 8pm ET Wednesdays
Desk of Ladyada - Random hacker times
John Park's Workshop - 4pm ET Thursdays
Deep Dive w/Tim - 5pm ET Fridays
echo canopy
Question… I’d assume no … but when you have two or more IR LEDs …. Is there a possibility of timing issues with one being ever so faster than the other
viral sail
Thanks and good night. 🌓
open surge
thanks, good show!
midnight plinth
Waiting for the bleeping (and blooping) show
sand lotus
ionic garnet
Hello Ada-peeps. I've been hidden in plain sight for a few weeks
Joined the great resignation and now operating as a CTO for hire.
grim void
HELP ! I cant login to Adafruit. Doesn't send me an AUTH code.
Can't but JP's Pick of the Week
That should be buy, not but.
shadow epoch
Hola
sand lotus
I just used the auth like 5 mins ago, works fine.
shadow epoch
MarkZ I messed up a phone upgrade and can'
can't get into authy to verify my adafruit account... Ah man
sand lotus
gotta be on your end, turn off your computer, and turn it on again
grim void
Been there, Done that
open surge
👋
sand lotus
hey Paul, hows the hand doing?
ionic garnet
Authy just worked for me
open surge
hey Paul, hows the hand doing?
Little sore, but doing alright. Thanks for asking
haughty quiver
stand by technical difficulties
ionic garnet
sitting by
sand lotus
squatting by
grim void
Guess I'll create another account with ADAFRUIT. I hate to lose my Purchasehistory
shadow epoch
@grim void I got it to send by sms but had to allow popups
(chrome)
I use ublock, it was blocking the 'send by sms' option to authenticate
cinder wind
"technical" == "Lars"; "difficulties" == "he's eating the cables again"
grim void
I can't log in to change my prefrences.
haughty quiver
here we go!
ionic garnet
yay
shadow epoch
I can't log in to change my prefrences.
Resend by SMS?
shell mason
youtube started now
viral sail
Good afternoon.
knotty valley
Bam made it!!!
shell mason
cinder wind
ahh the halcyon days of 2018
cinder wind
I made a Hackaday-themed case for the Hallowing back then https://www.printables.com/model/233071-hackaday-hallowing-case
ionic garnet
bought one. Didn't plan to. But me likey
shell mason
sand lotus
oh wow cool hackaday case todbot, looks perfect
shadow epoch
LOL it's a floor wax... nice
sand lotus
and you don't have to splice wires which may or may not have the risk of dropping a huge solder blob on the board
speaking from personal recent experience in the dept. of things not to do.
shadow epoch
He's doing it LIVE!
ionic garnet
LIVE DEMO? Oh No Mr Bill
sand lotus
ionic garnet
or Mr JP
sand lotus
messing up a drag and drop uf2 is pretty hard though, pretty sure it'll work first time. any bets?
shell mason
viral sail
Thanks @haughty quiver
inner spade
Thanks!
shell mason
open surge
thanks jp, good show
ionic garnet
Thanks @haughty quiver
shadow epoch
Nice outro screen
sand lotus
dynobot, ok i'll give it that one, my fault.
shell mason
the eye
cinder wind
dragon-drop
gray obsidian
Oh, btw there's already a TTF plugin for KiCAD, even listed on the plugins page: https://github.com/gregdavill/KiBuzzard
Haven't tried yet
Hopefully less buggy than the text-tool one
lavish patrol
Hello, all. 👋
hard hollow
hey folks!
upbeat coral
Hey y'll
lilac tusk
hey folks!
Have you and Pedro thought of making a light bulb project using noods?
open surge
good morning ☕
urban gale
Hey All! Welcome back N&P!
upbeat coral
Very happy to see you made it through the hurricane
wise iris
good morning!
split gazelle
good morning folks
rocky reef
Subscribe to Adafruit Newsletters - https://www.adafruitdaily.com/
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lilac tusk
You know what would be also cool, making the crystallic fusion crystal container from Lightyear
shell mason
i see led on the noods
rocky reef
LED Filament - https://www.adafruit.com/product/5507
lavish patrol
That looks like it would go in the uppy downy thing in the center of the TARDIS console.
open surge
oooh, good call
shell mason
andy sure larsdis center controller
rocky reef
lavish patrol
@shell mason Lars is The Master. 😶
rocky reef
Small Mint Perma-Proto - https://www.adafruit.com/product/1214
Alligator Jumper Wires - https://www.adafruit.com/product/3448
Code on github - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Learning_System_Guides/blob/main/LED_Noodle_Lantern/code.py
Lipo Charger BFF - https://www.adafruit.com/product/5397
rocky reef
Metal LED Button - https://www.adafruit.com/product/916
shell mason
nice
rocky reef
3D Parts on GitHub - https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CAD_Parts
Adafruit Fritzing Library parts - https://github.com/adafruit/Fritzing-Library/tree/master/parts
CircuitPython Downloads - https://circuitpython.org/
rocky reef
Noodle Lantern YouTube Video - https://youtu.be/9Mak8Uz3F8c
2200mah Battery - https://www.adafruit.com/product/1781
Layer by Layer CAD Tutorials Playlist: - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjF7R1fz_OOVsMp6nKnpjsXSQ45nxfORb
lavish patrol
shell mason
elf ear desing could be cool
lavish patrol
'Ere's a good project...
shell mason
some could put they earpod to it
lavish patrol
Well, that's just illogical.
gray obsidian
Now have the ear turn as a volume knob!
ivory kiln
Loving the lantern design. did you, or are you going to do a layer by layer for making it? Wanna make my own, but wanna make mine different.
shell mason
yoda year could be cool also for it grogu ear too
great emerald could be one
the gandalf stick
gray obsidian
I'd fancy an Ori Prior staff like this but yeah 🙂
rocky reef
lavish patrol
I've got a UV version of one of those flashlights. I'm thinking a flourescent diffuser...
gray obsidian
How many hours to print this??
lavish patrol
Lol. What about military time? 😄
ivory kiln
Def yea plz the lanturn led design, but could you also do one form the housing as well?
glad valley
would you guys consider developing a 3A usb-c batterybank breakout board?
lavish patrol
Is that N95 compliant? 😉
rocky reef
Wearable Deku Mask - By Valil Gentlebreeze
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5454052
glad valley
would you guys consider selling a 3A usb-c batterybank breakout board for making your own batterybanks/ repairing broken ones? i have a 22000 mAh one that needs a new board and it'd be great if there was a breakout board for me to do it
rocky reef
Teeth Cup - By DaveMakesStuffhttps://social.thangs.com/m/377780 https://youtu.be/p7Go99ddjwg
gray obsidian
ROTFL now I know where to put the tooth I broke Saturday
(the dentist said it wasn't broken, then the broken bit fell off just when I was back home, heck)
lavish patrol
@gray obsidian I hate it when that happens.
gray obsidian
My nephew almost harassed me into printing a pikachu when I made him visit the fablab 🙂
glad valley
would you guys consider selling a 3A usb-c batterybank breakout board for making your own batterybanks/ repairing broken ones? i have a 22000 mAh one that needs a new board and it'd be great if there was a breakout board for me to do it
lavish patrol
Great show again, guys. 👍
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks!
gray obsidian
Thanks!
urban gale
Thanks for another great show guys!
shell mason
just before Crew5 launch
hard hollow
woo! made it 😄 cya tonight folks, thanks!
upbeat coral
Thank you for sharing your time with us
wise iris
thanks guys
ionic garnet
Good evening
sand lotus
👋
nova totem
Good evening everyone
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
viral sail
Good evening.
open girder
Link to join to show and share your project: https://streamyard.com/56cvq66zqe
open surge
👋
open girder
SHOW and TELL 10/5/2022 https://youtu.be/xn8C6-zFrpI
robust horizon
I need those keycaps!
dim wigeon
Hi all! 👋
robust horizon
dim wigeon
The color scheme of that keyboard seems vaguely like old 1960s military hardware to me. Like, it reminds me of my visit to the Titan Missile Museum in Tucson (even though that was green and not blue)
sand lotus
oh wow
covert crag
oooh
tribal vault
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computercollecti...
oh wow that's really close to that isn't it
charred lion
How many of those 5×6 grids can be ganged together?
smoky island
Hooray! 🥧 🐮 🔐. Nice work Jeff!
nova totem
Nice work Jeff! SSL is never fun to think about
dim wigeon
Nice work, @robust horizon !
tribal vault
oh that's a really useful site to know about
open surge
If you want a Pico W to help test, Digikey has a few thousand in stock. 🙂
smoky island
If you want a Pico W to help test, Digikey has a few thousand in stock. 🙂
Thank you!
haughty quiver
@robust horizon these are the Drop MT3 Dancer ortho caps set, they have an inverted color scheme called Dasher.
covert crag
Steps to reproduce are your friends
robust horizon
here is the pull request but there are still problems stopping the build from completing: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/6999
I'll fix it up probably tomorrow morning, I'm ready to call it a night 🙂
nova totem
Producing good bug reports is a huge skill in itself
robust horizon
@haughty quiver ooh it's a little pricey isn't it! still so tempted
covert crag
oooooh, n00d tube
haughty quiver
@robust horizon yes, this set was on sale for $50 when i got it, wish i'd gotten the Dasher set too at the time 🙂
covert crag
It feels like something from Inspector Spacetime
noble grove
QUESTION: Test?
sand lotus
great looking mask anne. very pandemicy.
nova totem
I work almost quite besides Spirit Halloween and am disappointed in myself that I have yet to go in
covert crag
haughty quiver
@sand lotus great display!
dim wigeon
Snazzy, @sand lotus !
split gazelle
very cool @sand lotus
nova totem
I love those displays. Wish when I'd used them they had the stemma. Would have saved me a lot of soldering
viral sail
Great projects everyone. Thanks for sharing.
ionic garnet
great stuff as always
upbeat coral
Thank you all for sharing your time with us
nova totem
Great projects everyone
dim wigeon
Thanks for sharing, all! Show & Tell is always so inspiring! My list of “projects I won’t have time to do” grows each time I watch! 🤣
sand lotus
All the backpack code will be on my github once I finish. Any board with an internet connection (Pico W, espressif, etc.) it'll work with out of the box. Uses built-in wifi and socket library instead of depending on portalbase or pyportal code... so it'll work with any wifi board. Bare bones circuit python to social media API's.
Oh and the great thing about the new stemma hubs is you don't have to worry about voltage drop (as much) like you might daisy chaining 8 backpacks in a long I2C string.
dim wigeon
I’d always wondered how tolerant stemma connections were to voltage drops, but I’ve never tested it. So that’s good to know.
sand lotus
i didn't find out either, went straight for the hub when i ordered the backpacks.
open girder
WE ARE LIVE! ASK AN ENGINEER! https://youtu.be/aeHspXFnMCM
ionic garnet
dig those freqs
open girder
10% discount code, code is: inawing http://www.adafruit.com
noble grove
Good evening!
hot frigate
Hello wrenches!
stiff remnant
darn, no chip shortage, that's my favourite segment
covert crag
I wonder if you could fit a QT Py and motor in that little UPS truck toy
covert crag
darn, no chip shortage, that's my favourite segment
The song lives rent free in your head too, right? 😉
sand lotus
every day
tribal vault
in every way
nova totem
The HalloWing is so nice. Put it in a 3d printed tombstone and you're set
tulip canyon
10% discount code, code is: inawing http://www.adafruit.com
Thanks for the discount code!
I used it to spite-buy the Sony Spresence Extension board which I only recently found out is required to get CircuitPython running on the main board. Really pricey ecosystem
tribal vault
two years backorder dang
sand lotus
after the pandemic we're all still in what year is it mode
tribal vault
it really sounds like an organizational nightmare from the standpoint of trying to run a business in the space. Kudos to you guys and your team
covert crag
Much love for low power stuff!
covert crag
waves his illuminated connected PPK2 in the air like a lighter at a concert
sand lotus
lol you and the ppk, yeah yeah i'll get one one of these days
nova totem
PyLeap is the reason I want to figure out how to get BLE on the ESP32-S3/C3
sand lotus
ohhh BLE file transfer, that's awesome
covert crag
Hmm, wonder if it could use the ESP32S2 Qt Py so the lantern could change the n00ds over WiFi
covert crag
- Cheekmate looks cool. 2. Lol.
tribal vault
the writeup for this project was the best thing ever. I sent it to all my friends
for science
sand lotus
looks complicated, must have been done by a backend developer
tulip canyon
There a zillion dollar xxx adult toy industry that might also be interested
spiral bough
Well played @open girder !
covert crag
There a zillion dollar xxx adult toy industry that might also be interested
I'm sure you're just referring to chess there
sand lotus
that song sounds vaguely familiar... FUNK.
tulip canyon
I'm sure you're just referring to chess there
I can't be the only one thinking... ?
covert crag
I can't be the only one thinking... ?
About chess only being for adults?
dim wigeon
Fun fact: Flying by the seat of the pants = feeling the movement of the airplane (presumably with your butt ¯_(ツ)_/¯) rather than looking at your instruments. Obviously a less accurate method.
nova totem
Fun fact: Flying by the seat of the pants = feeling the movement of the airplane...
Having done my pilot training that seems like a very poor way to fly 🙂
dim wigeon
Having done my pilot training that seems like a very poor way to fly 🙂
Definitely more error prone. (I’m a knowledgeable amateur when it comes to flying, but I can’t get my pilot’s license for medical reasons.)
covert crag
Having done my pilot training that seems like a very poor way to fly 🙂
Surely just add some more sensors to the Cheekmate and put it in your pocket? 😉
sand lotus
i think DJ Dan made F.U.N.K?
nova totem
Definitely more error prone. (I’m a knowledgeable amateur when it comes to flyin...
I lost mine weeks after getting it due to medical so I know that feeling!
dim wigeon
I lost mine weeks after getting it due to medical so I know that feeling!
Oof. 😦 That sucks. I have a friend who lost his because of a single idiopathic seizure 40 years ago. The FAA seems somewhat capricious in how they do all that.
tulip canyon
nope
nova totem
Oof. 😦 That sucks. I have a friend who lost his because of a single idiopathic ...
Canada seems similar. Though I was told I could try to get my medical back but at this point I would need a lot of retraining and most of my money goes to electronics now 🙂
dim wigeon
Canada seems similar. Though I was told I could try to get my medical back but a...
That makes sense. My friend’s medical was approved multiple times with full disclosure of his medical record. But then five years later, it was suddenly…not okay. I’m ineligible because of diabetes now, but even before then I was ineligible unless I wanted to stop taking my ADHD medications. 😕
covert crag
wow, 24mW
sand lotus
i'm not trying to do anything to do with glonass right now
nova totem
That makes sense. My friend’s medical was approved multiple times with full disc...
Ugh yeah. Still glad I did it though. Random plane facts are always fun.
covert crag
Though now I'm trying to remember how to convert mW to uA, I'm pretty sure 24mW is b-a-n-a-n-a-s low power consumption
sand lotus
US GPS works great for ublox though i haven't used their new modules
dim wigeon
Fun fact I learned recently, the GPS satellite constellation has a secondary payload of IR sensors designed to detect nuclear detonations.
sand lotus
fun fact, if there's a nuclear detonation in your area you won't need a satellite to detect it 🤣
dim wigeon
@sand lotus True story. But they have the sensors to ensure compliance with the Limited Test Ban Treaty.
vivid sparrow
sand lotus
interesting
dim wigeon
Makes me wonder how many other secret government payloads are flying as hitchhikers on commercial satellites.
sand lotus
once you get a fix with a satellite you can actually go up to some really high baudrates. it's impressive.
i prefer the side launch connectors please. the ufl is tiny and can detach way too easily.
can't tell you how many times i see my gps isn't working because i accidentally bumped the module and the ufl popped off.
but when it works (which is pretty quick to fix) it works great. i actually use it as a RTC for power outages (hurricanes)
that's about 1/4 of the size of the one i have, good lord.
covert crag
also, no idea if the power consumption is super low compared to the competition, but darn that's lower than I thought GPS would be: https://content.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/MAX-M10S_DataSheet_UBX-20035208.pdf#page=13
nova totem
wait what?
covert crag
sand lotus
WHAT IS GOING ON around here lol
tulip canyon
When do scissors become shears? 🤔
sand lotus
minecraft?
upbeat coral
Your purchase supports my retirement😀
nova totem
both of my scissors were on my work desk one time when I was trying to find them for cutting something normal
sand lotus
today is obviously inuendo day
covert crag
When do scissors become shears? 🤔
When they make a pop group that's really successful in the UK despite being American?
open surge
If I used my partner's fabric scissors on something not fabric, you wouldn't see me the next day
upper sandal
and don't lick them
nova totem
or run with them!
covert crag
This Eye on NPI is really sharp btw. Really showing off a cutting-edge product.
sand lotus
pink scissors, this stuff writes itself
dim wigeon
Most people I know who would be angry with you for using their fabric scissors to cut non-fabric tend to be really picky about their scissors, though.
sand lotus
you guys went from butt plugs to scissors, bunch of comedians after hours at the factory
noble grove
Fiskars
covert crag
you guys went from butt plugs to scissors, bunch of comedians after hours at the...
Huh? They showed off n00ds, not butt plugs, think you're getting mixed up.
sand lotus
they're on a roll
you're exceptionally good at it. SNL is picking up a great set of new cast members.
covert crag
I mean, this video is quite literally LIVE FROM NEW YORK
merry bear
Someone dinged my fabric scissors and won’t own up to it despite having fabric only written in paint on the sheath.
upper sandal
Huh? They showed off n00ds, not butt plugs, think you're getting mixed up.
did you miss the latest in #learn-adafruit-guide-feed ?
covert crag
did you miss the latest in <#330451838732337152> ?
That was for chess though
Said you could put it in your armpit
upper sandal
I mean...
covert crag
Really think you're getting mixed up here folks
merry bear
Q: I am using a QT Py ESP32-C3 plugged into a small board I am making. Do I need to clear the ground plane on the board around the antenna?
upper sandal
there's also 10 innuendos in the intro paragraph 😛
sand lotus
🆕
noble grove
QUESTION: How hard would it be to make a host transciever for a bluetooth headset, to take the place of a smart phone or computer. eg. For an intercom.
upbeat coral
Related yet not. Years back we were required to wear hearing protection. Our favorite was not the 3M brand but some other brand. So, in their wisdom, they took the other manufacturer off our supply list and forced us to use 3M ear plugs. Hearing test started getting worse, people started bringing their own ear plugs or reusing the throwaway after use ones. Long story short. 3M bought the company that made the ear plugs we liked, rebranded them and returned them to the stocks for our use.
upper sandal
and it is a reference to a scandal in the chess community where a player was accused of having a cheating device... you know... hidden
echo canopy
Question….. can you connect a low power 3v PIR directly up to a PCF8575
@open girder
covert crag
and it is a reference to a scandal in the chess community where a player was acc...
In his armpit? yeah
sand lotus
oh that's a neat way of doing it. solder pads are pretty easy to change and clean up too. nice one.
merry bear
I think there was a lawsuit involving 3m regarding earplugs.
sand lotus
military 3m earplugs i think
nova totem
ulab.numpy
sand lotus
i didn't know the u in ulab stood for micro until tekktrik pronounced it that way
upper sandal
µlab
nova totem
i didn't know the u in ulab stood for micro until tekktrik pronounced it that wa...
It took me a long time to realize that too
upper sandal
it's a Micropython convention at least
noble grove
A back-end developer?
upper sandal
(all C-python based libraries used to be prefixed with u in MP)
noble grove
Amazon
sand lotus
Question: i got some mcp23017 e/sp ND's but nothing in the datasheet. is ND some kind of nomenclature I don't know about?
noble grove
Didn't see it on the learn guide
QUESTION: How hard would it be to make a custom bluetooth headset.
sand lotus
isn't there a learn guide for that?
past meteor
The meat picture of the chess guide is amazing
sand lotus
oh the guide is just for 3D printing the enclosure and neopixel, nvm
noble grove
Understood
viral sail
Thanks @open girder and good night. 🌔
upbeat coral
Thank you for sharing your time with us.
dim wigeon
Have a great night, everyone! Thanks, @open girder !
open surge
good show, thank you!
viral sail
Great audio tonight too. First time in a while there was no mic clipping.
sand lotus
tonight was a very memorable one
tulip canyon
Thank you @open girder
echo canopy
❤️
covert crag
Have a good night folks
covert crag
tonight was a very memorable one
they really stuffed a lot of stuff in
sand lotus
from every direction
charred lion
Can the 5×6 MX Key grid be ganged together? And if so, how many X×Y.
sand lotus
Bit late, shows over. Maybe next week evil Dave. 😖
charred lion
Those tubes are sold as child safe test tubes.
oops... Was watching on YouTube and came here to ask a question.
sand lotus
If you’re watching on YouTube live make sure to scrub it to the end to keep it live, otherwise you could be watching 15 minutes behind or something
sand lotus
😞 it’s happened to me many times. Come back next week. Same time.. but earlier.
Ahhh that’ll do it.
sand lotus
Yeah I’ve done that too. It happens.
lavish patrol
Hi, all. 😀
sand lotus
👋
lavish patrol
Got my COVID booster today. 👍
sand lotus
immune system go!
sand lotus
got a notification that says it went live but definitely not live yet
lavish patrol
The chat's lively..
shell mason
Lars might have bite cables
lavish patrol
Lars does that.
drowsy inlet
only seeing title card
lavish patrol
@clever summit Good evening.
shell mason
I also watch SpaceX crew dragon endurance crew5 approaching and docking stream to international spacestation
clever summit
Evening mr Callaway!
haughty quiver
Hi all!
clever summit
Hey JP!
sand lotus
and we're live!
drowsy inlet
i hear the beats
lavish patrol
and we're live!
Bleeps and Bloops 2.0
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
cinder wind
werk it, werk shop it
knotty valley
Made it!!!
sand lotus
that gorgeous blue KB from show and tell is to die for. the keys look really retro and unique.
shell mason
spaceX dragon there on white dot
tender wolf
Hello all!!!
lavish patrol
Yikes!
viscid wasp
Hi there everybody😀
knotty valley
German 4 !!!
sand lotus
i may have gone overboard during the 7-segment product pick of the week a month ago. worth it.
i LOVE boot_out.txt, it's amazing when you have multiple boards running on different versions for different projects.
i need to figure out how to use circup
drowsy inlet
is that read-only?
does it get updated when interpreter gets updated?
sand lotus
when you update the bootloader it gets auto generated yes
it's great if you want to update to a nightly build to help beta test / bug hunt for stuff it's nice to keep it separate from your other projects. the more boards i get the more i use boot_out.txt as a quick reference.
did you accidentally load the wrong bootloader??? https://circuitpython.org/board/qtpy_m0_haxpress/
sand lotus
Joey's been doing great lately. Looks like people are loving it. I have 2 of those watches. It's like the official watch of "i'm getting old guys"
this is great to see what the board actually does because i honestly don't know
whew look at the layers in that board.
past meteor
Ordered a copy after Foone tweeted about it
shell mason
nice book
cinder wind
wow there's really more than meets the eye, in those transformers
sand lotus
fritzing practically required to explain that amount of project wiring
shell mason
some cool images even crew dragon is in the pic with earth
sand lotus
Gets like 100 feet of hookup wire, uses silicon jumpers. Yes, because it's nice to have options.
shell mason
some could build some noodles space for it
sand lotus
Did you ever print another base plate to fix the broken foot issue?
shell mason
the origin was not black
sand lotus
Didn't know both 7 and 8 were included. I've been copy pasting straight from displayed code.
Yes, guilty, i've been doing that.
copying code, didn't realize the 7 and 8 libraries were in the bundles. sometimes been going all the way to adafruit github to get the latest library.
inner spade
i need to figure out how to use circup
Discotool update is a wonderous circup shortcut
sand lotus
yeah i really need to learn how to use that, that works per board right?
cinder wind
wait there's a CANADIAN GLUE now
sand lotus
there's always been a canadian glue, it's called love.
lavish patrol
Lol
sand lotus
channeling my inner ryan reynolds there
inner spade
yeah i really need to learn how to use that, that works per board right?
Yes, I believe so. Haven’t tried all permutations yet.
clever summit
I made moon lamp, it tracks the phase of the moon with a short WWA LED strip.
Speaking of space... 🙂
lavish patrol
In Canada you can see the Aurora Boreanaz...
shell mason
Magnetic connector?
sand lotus
shell mason
found cool split keyobard https://github.com/tzarc/djinn
sand lotus
acrylic laser cutting makes far more sense in that scenario, i take that back. the I2C/USB ports are always super nice to have.
lavish patrol
I made moon lamp, it tracks the phase of the moon with a short WWA LED strip.
Could be a candidate for an Instructable...
shell mason
would be cool lamp
sand lotus
or you could add a reset switch on the case and run it to rst & gnd
cinder wind
I'm glad he kept the BS key to keep it real
wind spoke
That is a "DEL" keyboard?!
sand lotus
someone suggested they would be great on the walkmp3rson
shell mason
the "leet" key?
lavish patrol
Great workshop, as always @haughty quiver
sand lotus
yeah the keycaps because of the color scheme
shell mason
the right time
lavish patrol
Bye
clever summit
Thanks nice one
shell mason
crew dragon is close to docking
sand lotus
thanks for streaming
haughty quiver
thanks much all!
shell mason
you got great timing JP
haughty quiver
⏰
shell mason
dragon is now soon waypoint 2
charred lion
I was wondering if those 5×6 grids can be ganged together? If not, how many of those sub boards can you use at one time
sand lotus
It depends on the expander scheme you're using. In a diode matrix with 16 GPIO expander you can do an 8x8 matrix for 64 keys. Add 64 keys for each 16 pin expander.
However the problem with that particular expander is that it does not have a changeable I2C address. The Qt Py only has 2 separate I2C busses so the most you can have in that setup is 128 keys.
maybe, my math might be wrong, might be more.
proper prawn
Hi, Tim, and all present. Happy Friday from Lisbon
open surge
All the Pauls are present and accounted for
brazen grove
and all the Radomirs
inner spade
👋
open surge
you're welcome. 🙂
sand lotus
👋
wind spoke
Hi, so Blinka-DisplayIO is for SPI or I2C attached display. Is there another option for using the HDMI or DPI of the Raspberry Pi?
sand lotus
Since it’s on a pi does that mean blink a can interface with PIL? PIL + CP sounds nice.
wind spoke
Oh, yeah, I remember that. 🙂
sand lotus
Ohhh does that mean pygamer microcontroller game emulator for pc someday?
I thought we were years away from web workflow yet here we are. Never know what the future holds.
Foamyguy highlighting text while reading is like GreatScott using highlighters on schematics. It’s gonna happen. 😄
That is cool!!
grand tusk
Is there a Javascript drawing library that works like displayio?
sand lotus
Could probably code a translator using canvas and css vector. Would be involved to start from scratch but should be possible.
flat seal
I do the same with highlighting as I read
sand lotus
Problem is attempting to emulate a fast moving GitHub repo. Examples would likely be behind unless someone dedicates it as a major undertaking. Sounds like a nightmare just for trying to keep the emulator from breaking with updated cp releases.
brazen grove
Problem is attempting to emulate a fast moving GitHub repo. Examples would likel...
there is a sphinx plugin that lets you run your examples as unit tests, that helps to catch the breaking changes
of course you would mock all of displayio, but you would still catch api changes
sand lotus
Is that what sphinx does? I saw it get installed when I went to make my custom board. No idea what half that stuff actually does.
brazen grove
sphinx is what generates the nice html docs out of the comments in the code
sand lotus
Like in meetings they announce how many pi wheels downloads happened. What is pi wheels?
Could those be anchor points which should only have a range of 0-1.0?
When debugging print all the things.
grand tusk
Is the font just a kind of bitmap?
sand lotus
Same, that’s the way I think of it. Somehow sprite sheets with background color detection to make them transparent… just like a sprite sheet for a game. At least it makes sense thinking of it that way.
noble grove
Is the font fixed width or variable.
inner spade
Is the font just a kind of bitmap?
Are fonts micropython objects and not unique to CircuitPython (like palettes and groups)?
noble grove
OK. Can a sprite sheet have variable width sprites?
grand tusk
Why have a non-functional blit() function?
sand lotus
are those specific to blit so a common name x1, etc.. won't break anything outside?
placeholders are a good way not to forget about the feature forever
grand tusk
Here is a commit: "Add typing and missing CP7 functions" https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Blinka_Displayio/commit/9174c060a2059d9debc04a1254bbc516f78d0dd7
sand lotus
tilegrid does NOT like variable width sprites. it'll throw errors.
not only does the sprites have to be the same size but they all have to add up to be divisible by 2 or something
it's a way for tilegrid to enforce that it's actually working with a real spritesheet
clever summit
🇸🇪 👍
sand lotus
yes, all of those things. that's what i meant 🙂
grand tusk
✅ PASS
sand lotus
an atlas is a sprite sheet that is different sizes sure. that's a good name for it. i've worked with texture atlases in games before. it displayed the atlas kind of like the visualizer in WinDirStat. very handy for seeing your biggest textures that might be able to be optimized more. that would be very nice for CP game developers. that's the only scenario i see it being useful.
I haven't seen a spritesheet for a GUI that's large enough to be split off into an atlas. Spritesheets by themselves are still fine for GUI's.
your clock project... maybe that one yeah.
grand tusk
Smart quotes are the wrong quotes. Always.
sand lotus
you can do that in PHP as well, that's in my background so i'm used to that.
smoky island
sand lotus
\backslash is for escaping. // is for getting to websites 😛
noble grove
Dividing is forward slash. Backslash is for Windows Paths
sand lotus
both are slashes
yes slash is from GNR.
definitely a back slash and forward slash meme in there somewhere.
grand tusk
I use windows and I use '/' in my paths.
Some call the / character 'solidus'.
sand lotus
never heard that one before, interesting
oh i solved my lora board problem, user error. had them wired up wrong. working fine now.
shell mason
the json was so different to edit when url it had to change
on windows url way to other slash
sand lotus
wired up GPIO to IRQ instead of RESET, so everytime it was trying to reset the lora module it was actually triggering an interrupt and shutting off the receiver. hit save again and it turned it back on LOL. took me weeks to figure that one out.
shell mason
if you customize your windows terminal
noble grove
And now you can use Linux in Windows
shell mason
the new windows terminal see the linux terminal now yeah
sand lotus
the shulltronics addition is pretty great
just going on what i've seen in your streams
noble grove
Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)
viscid wasp
Cygwin gives you the binutils and bash shell among other things
grand tusk
I had a circuit that would reset every time I changed one pin to 0. Turns out there was a solder bridge to the reset pin. 🤦
sand lotus
WSL is pretty nice. i uninstalled it chasing down a bug just to find out WSL isn't even remotely close to causing the bug but i was desperate.
shell mason
sand lotus
thanks dexter, makes me feel better
shell mason
happen to best of us too for got pins short
viscid wasp
It also had a version of GCC
smoky island
sand lotus
you learn we learn ❤️
grand tusk
Thanks @smoky island and everyone!
proper prawn
Thank you again Tim. Good night to y'all. Have a nice weekend
viscid wasp
😀 gooday to you
smoky island
Thanks everyone. 👋
smoky island
Getting started with this morning's stream now playing with 
🐮. Follow along on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/foamyguy_twitch or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pPfWc3GAfs
waxen lichen
👋
open surge
good morning ☕
inner spade
👋
sand lotus
☕ 👋
dynobot, such a killjoy
ok i didn't think of this at first but pie cow might not be a great marketing thing because cow pies are not a good thing.
open surge
There was some talk about that in the dev channel the other day, and adding "picow" too
proper prawn
Hi Tim, good morning, and all present
sand lotus
i missed that discussion, yeah brings up some interesting points.
proper prawn
Pimoroni has them, the so-called 'Captain resetti'
I use them on several pico's. Don't know if it fits on the W
strong acorn
W is same form factor and pinout, I put one of the Pimoroni LiPo shims on a W
sand lotus
oh i solved the reset problem by creating a PCB board just for the reset. it also has stemma, midi out, and a 16 key sequencer 😛
proper prawn
Abt 45 mins ago I was busy with my other 'passion': Hamradio. I made a CW (morse code) 2-way contact with a station in Delaware, USA on 28 MHz (1 MHz higher than the so-called 'Citizens band'. With only an RF power output of 10 Watts I was very happy with this radio contact, for sure.
sand lotus
you put the pins on the bottom anyway. they're not in the way 😉
yeah, pico w is direct drop in replacement, identical pins
i got 10 of them for some give away boards
upper sandal
I use them on several pico's. Don't know if it fits on the W
it doesn't fit the W 😦
sand lotus
oh you're talking about the resetti
thought you were talking about pin headers
missed that part, sorry about that
noble grove
Good morning
upper sandal
hi btw, just finished opening twitch, it was being annoying
strong acorn
it doesn't fit the W 😦
oh, it uses the RUN, not the EN, hmm
sand lotus
creating your own reset buttton for it is stupid simple though. just tie a switch from RUN to gnd. grounding the RUN pin resets the pico.
yes run sorry that one
strong acorn
EN is for 3.3v
3V3_EN: 3.3V power output, connected to the SPMS enable pin.
RUN: A specific pin, that you can use to reset the RP2040.
the shim cuts power, the Resetti... resets
sand lotus
JSON deals mostly with the JSON data structure format. parsing in/out of that format.
with requests library makes things so much easier
ampule is a simple http server for circuit python, they've also been doing work on the adafruit implementation of it heading towards web workflow.
noble grove
Caps lock?
sand lotus
did you guys see anecdata's quad redundant mdns servers?
strong acorn
oops, correction: no mDNS yet
sand lotus
what made you come up with that idea? i mean 3 wasn't enough? 🙂
clever summit
Hey Tim!
A friendly chap made a pull request for my MagTag sensor example.
Seems I am way behind on development of the graphics stuff.
What is the pixel_shader stuff?
Ah, OK! Get it. That is neat.
sand lotus
it was posted by adafruit's twitter https://twitter.com/adafruit/status/1578380133408407552
Twitter
^^ anecdata did that, looks cool, no idea what it does really but looks neat.
clever summit
Time to upgrade my MagTag to latest CP I guess. 🙂
sand lotus
like... who does this? 😛
clever summit
Hahah. This is my solution to that problem.
A custom PCB with 10 USB connectors, power only.
sand lotus
ohh and it's mounted. i need something like that in my life.
i got one of those 10 ports for PC front panel.
inner spade
Yeah, a bit confusing that palette and pixel_shader objects have the same properties. Or do they?
sand lotus
hey kid, so you wanna get into microcontrollers but first Johnny, we need to talk about USB hubs, lots of them 😛
clever summit
It is powering my "sensor farm"... 😎
The left black one is a Bluetooth proxy for Home Assistant.
inner spade
Yeah, a bit confusing that palette and pixel_shader objects have the same proper...
They both act like lists, but palette properties can’t be inherited. Don’t know about pixel_shader.
clever summit
The right one is a multi sensor, temp/humidity/pressure/light.
The long black one is a Geiger counter.
Me <- A sucker for buying sensors.
sand lotus
that won't fit on a pipboy 😦
inner spade
Color converter is a function that returns a palette-like object. Too many object names.
sand lotus
i have entire bins of unused sensors, if you get into microcontrollers just a matter of time before you have a desk full of sensors logging to adafruitio or some IO service. it's gonna happen.
inner spade
I need to Deep Dive ™️ into color converter. The dither function alone could be very useful.
sand lotus
the bad thing about ampule or adafruit basic http server is it's just one long string. it's not really like editing a html file. designed to accept a minified kind of thing i guess. they're working on the adafruit implementation to actually be an html file i think though.
proper prawn
you put the pins on the bottom anyway. they're not in the way 😉
I use, among some other, smaller hubs, this one. Excuse me for the dust on it 🙂
sand lotus
the first thing i did when i got my first esp32-s2 was try to setup a local server. it didn't go very well. still lots of work to be done in that arena.
inner spade
I need to Deep Dive ™️ into color converter. The dither function alone could be ...
Bitmap tools also has an alpha merge, I believe. Have to put that on the sandbox list and check it out.
sand lotus
i was trying to post temp sensor data to a local page. i'm just saying out of the box there's no examples for something like that.
for local logging
immutablemultidict sounds like a band name
ionic stratus
the bad thing about ampule or adafruit basic http server is it's just one long s...
Apologies if I am missing some context, but the 7.3.x version (at least) of adafruit_httpserver can serve HTML files from the filesystem. You're right that it's under active development.
strong acorn
do you need Content-Type: x-www-form-urlencoded or something like that
clever summit
Hm. Can't copy the UF2 to my MagTag, says it is out of space!?!?!?
sand lotus
the partitions for circuit python are a fixed size on each device. you can enlarge them but you gotta dive into that code.
ohh trivia games are always fun
are you saying you're just trying to update the magtag and not write a custom UF2?
because in that case it shouldn't be over the capacity limit or the developers need to look into that. maybe they froze a module and went over capacity but they're usually really good about ensuring the UF2 fits.
Linus torvalds yeah
noble grove
Linus Torvalds
sand lotus
he's eccentric but he's used to dealing with machines not humans, it happens.
noble grove
Machines and programmers
sand lotus
i can see the same thing starting to happen to elon musk. he can be a *** sometimes too... then again can't we all?
noble grove
I think he has just gotten tired of people telling him what is wrong with his way of thinking, instead of writing their own OS
I understand he is also
not too impressed with political correctness trying to insinuate itself into linux
sand lotus
take Woz, guy is just awesome, but he also didn't have to deal with people. apple had people for that. probably happens to those who try to do everything themselves.
noble grove
Political correctness feeds on its opponents' politeness.
clever summit
Seems I am having issues getting into the right mode. I AM running old beta versions of everything. 🙂
noble grove
@sand lotus yup
upper sandal
"political correctness" is a term used by terrible people to whine about why they can't do terrible things, instead of actually addressing the terrible things they do
inner spade
Insecure immaturity. They need to rediscover empathy and patience.
sand lotus
political correctness and wokeness will turn against a company, trying to surf that wave is nice but eventually that wave will turn against you. best just not to even participate and remain neutral sometimes.
clever summit
My MagTag was delivered before the bootloader or CP was ready, so I had to install beta versions of everything.
noble grove
@upper sandal You drink your koolaid, I'll drink mine.
clever summit
Trying to get ESPTool to work. Do not want to play.
noble grove
@upper sandal "woke" people do terrible things too. They just justify it differently.
clever summit
Can we drop that discussion please?
upper sandal
no, that's in your head
noble grove
Yes
strong acorn
if random.choice(mylist) not in destination_list:
gotta keep that processor cycling on something
clever summit
NOP FTW.
inner spade
Always loved those CPU front panel LED worms.
proper prawn
Java is Indonesia
sand lotus
isn't java near sumatra or something?
noble grove
Python is everywhere
sand lotus
needs \n after answer to separate them
after correct answer to separate the next question
the 3D version wasn't great. the 2d version is always best.
i could see a 3d lemmings having more difficulty to make it bettter.
noble grove
It's basically "Sand" so 3D would be hard to do,
sand lotus
oh which ones were IN left 4 dead? defintiely francis, bill, zoey, and louis
i think it's 150
noble grove
12 oz
strong acorn
Peter Thiel
sand lotus
like the original headsets for PC's that had those walkman style thin metal band headsets?
strong acorn
you don't really want to know what Palantir does
sand lotus
well now i gotta know
well that escalated quickly
yeah they somehow went and got involved in a bunch of dark web illicit stuff... like a bunch of *****
as a company no less.. what idiots.
noble grove
big data analytics
clever summit
Whooo! Got My MagTag code updated to latest TinyUF2 and CP 7.3.3, all working now.
inner spade
A Linux dance venue
Gotta jump outta here. Thanks for the stream. It’s impressive how easy it is to build a web project with the W and CircuitPython.
clever summit
Since I got some positive feedback for my USB power distribution I put it on Github. Both PCB and enclosure.
https://github.com/bergdahl/DCPower
sand lotus
open source initiative? i think?
maybe operational security initiative, aw crap i can't remember
clever summit
I would say connection.
sand lotus
it's open system interconnect
yeah i don't see pixar releasing something. i'd go with tennessee because tea couldn't have been a big thing in utah, though i've never been there
trick question, darn you utahians for having something to do with tea you probably never drink
yes you can, jepler figured that out, and also specifically said in the meeting he regreted even trying to add an emoji into the repo name
probaby did it on accident at first and it caused an issue
proper prawn
Thank you again Tim, and all present. A nice rest of the weekend. Here locally quite some noise from a football game in the football stadium of Benfica nearby. It's already the 2nd game this week in this stadium?
sand lotus
that was eh, 3-4 weeks ago in the weekly meeting
clever summit
Thanks for the company! 🙂
strong acorn
🥧 🐮 PR
sand lotus
yeah all file systems might not translate the unicode properly
proper prawn
Wow, I think one of the local club players made a goal and the crowd went crazy!
sand lotus
or whatever esoteric tool someone might be using to pull down a git repo. unicode in a filename is a bad idea, language translations might have a hard time too.
proper prawn
Recently with these many casualties at a football match in Indonesia people said: "we live for football (soccer)". That is also the case in this country. - OK bye for now
sand lotus
if something works for the pico w that doesn't mean it will work for the regular pico if it includes any wireless connection code. yeah i guess specifying if it's for pico vs pico w is a smart idea in that context.
or maybe an ethernet hat or something yeah
hmm eithernet wouldn't use wifi library so that would break, would have to change the import
thanks for streaming. very cool project! thumbs up to whoever created that open trivia library.
open girder
Desk of Ladyada - TFT's Galore! https://youtu.be/gaaKtn9Ges4
sand lotus
👋
clever summit
🇸🇪 👋
lilac tusk
I love TFTs
Usually get mine off Aliexpress
Fairly good success that way but definitely a little bit of a gamble
sand lotus
same for amazon, read the reviews and they're advertised as ili displays but turns out they're completely different driver etc.. just headaches so i stick with legit adafruit displays so i know the drivers are always the right ones.
lilac tusk
Lol whoops
lilac tusk
same for amazon, read the reviews and they're advertised as ili displays but tur...
I haven’t been burned yet
For Aliexpress
But at $3 a piece, usually pretty low barrier for failure
sand lotus
oh chip right on the flexible pcb, didn't know that was a thing
lilac tusk
I have a round display in my saved tabs for a round TFT with touch
sand lotus
you get about 3x the fps but if your fps is 1 fps, then not much difference.
lilac tusk
It uses Hirose flat connectors rather than FPC
Though I’m really starting to like the flat Hirose connectors more
Smaller footprint and whatnot
sand lotus
never heard of em
oh that's like a normal pop in 40 pin socket, yeah those are nice and still pretty slim.
lilac tusk
Yeah
Like the connector on that display
I love the 1.3” IPS display. Very nice
I use it a lot
sand lotus
i'm heavy on graphics so i go for the big displays, bigger the better. then i load them up with graphics usually until they chug to a halt 😛
lilac tusk
Lol
sand lotus
because i love designing UI's with images, so my needs are kinda heavy compared to most.
sand lotus
like with the 3.5" tft featherwing i tried putting in an animated weather background for my weather project. threw tons of stuff at it.
lilac tusk
I’d love to make a smart home controller using one (5” display)
sand lotus
i have 7" with RA8875 driver board too, have yet to break that one out and play with it yet though.
ohh a 4.3", that's a good size for small weather displays. the 3.5" pretty good too.
lilac tusk
I’ve considered using a touch display for my Treehouse terminal product I’m slowly developing
10” 😳
sand lotus
10" with 40 pin? 🤤
most larger TFT's from waveshare are only hdmi now. they really don't have anything for microcontrollers anymore.
lilac tusk
most larger TFT's from waveshare are only hdmi now. they really don't have anyt...
Some higher end MCU can do HDMI
sand lotus
looking forward to the eyespi stuff
sand lotus
oh that's a good idea, nice one mr ladyada!
clever summit
Wow
sand lotus
the smaller TFT's will go great with the resurgance in Pi camera projects. compact self contained SBC cameras.
yeah we do see people from time to time in discord who are having issues with soldering, sometimes they don't even realize they have a soldering issue.
lilac tusk
I really need to do more RPi projects
sand lotus
oh that's smart design
I was looking for surface mount resistors and having a hard time figuring out what I needed. The metric size vs surface mount size is confusing. I actually looked on the youtube channel for a great search on resistors and couldn't find one. Would love to see you do something on that.
lilac tusk
I was looking for surface mount resistors and having a hard time figuring out wh...
Yeah, sometimes sizes are confusing. I once ordered 0402 metric which is like 0201 or 01005 US. It was so tiny lol
I check now
Though look back, I think Digi-Key made the mistake
inner spade
👋
inner spade
Lots of hands-waving goin’ on.
clever summit
🇸🇪 🖖
sand lotus
Just me or is he muted?
clever summit
Not on Youtube he isn't.
sand lotus
Yeah it was me.
inner spade
@smoky island it seems that the mic’s noise gate is cutting out some of the voice audio.
Better now
clever summit
My robot vacuum had a hiccup today. Instead of retuning to the base it got lost, entered my office and started doing loops around my chair. I could swear it was missing me! 🙂
Do they use cat DNA in the AI on those?
sand lotus
Display schmorgisboard. I don’t envy her having to test all the different samples. Seems tedious.
clever summit
I was a bit confused about her answer about resistive touch, I thought that was really bad compared to capacitive? She didn't seem to think that.
Well, I was more expecting the word "bad" in that context. 🙂
Resistive more or less requires a stylus right?
sand lotus
Touch also requires more code overhead. I couldn’t fit it in my weatherstation using the blufruit sense. The esp boards are really the only ones powerful enough to do it all right now.
clever summit
OK, got you!
inner spade
Resistive requires dimensional calibration, and it drifts with temperature. Backlight heat helps to stabilize that. Don’t know about capacitive.
sand lotus
the featherwing tft is resistive. i played with JP's touch deck example when i first got it and it does take multiple taps sometime to register touch if you're using your fingers.
inner spade
Resistive sensitivity is adjustable via the driver. It differs from screen to screen, so the driver is set to be less sensitive by default.
sand lotus
was my first time messing with a display ever, i intend to revisit touch now that i have the more powerful S2 which has overhead for more code.
cat cam 🐱
i'd like to know how the word log started to be used to record something.. when log to my knowledge probably started off as cutting down trees.
trees to paper is the only thing i can think of yeah. could google it but always a good mental exercise to try to figure it out first.
hmm maybe the first counting was done with sticks, like roman numerals, maybe that has something to do with it.
adafruitio learn guide with mqtt is like the first thing anyone runs into for mqtt
i actually have yet to use mqtt, been using adafruit requests from scratch with JSON dumps and JSON loads.
clever summit
I used MQTT loads.
sand lotus
sounds like mqtt just wraps JSON loads into it then
clever summit
You can do it that way, but MQTT as a protocol does not define the payload.
sand lotus
hmm maybe i need to check that out, maybe make my life trying to mess with API's a little easier?
clever summit
It is convenient though!
sand lotus
ohh that's right forgot mqtt is the protocol
clever summit
JSON is convenient enough so I do use that for all my payloads.
Yeah, client subscribes to messages, so it is instant.
sand lotus
same, JSON parsing keeps everything neatly organized and relatively easy enough to work with
hmm wonder what it stands for
clever summit
I also use MQTT for Home Assistant, also in JSON format.
sand lotus
MQ Telemetry Transport
web sockets have great integration for browser stuff, mqtt seems more backend for servers
clever summit
Or for small WiFi devices.
sand lotus
i guess both can be used similarly to display stuff
well, web sockets and mqtt would both need access to the internet somehow.
seems adafruitio relies on mqtt heavily, if it didn't i probably wouldn't even look into it and keep using adafruit requests with json
hmm i wonder if adafruit requests library breaks things down into mqtt format? i've never actually looked into the requests library.
ohh so like a message buffer queue?
that looks handy
clever summit
If you want to run a local MQTT server I can recommend https://www.emqx.io/
sand lotus
ok that's a very appealing feature
clever summit
It is way better to use for prototyping than Mosquitto, as it has loads of diagnostics in the GUI.
sand lotus
i'm doing something with lora chat messenger device to device, P2P basically. and message buffers aren't a thing. if you miss a msg you miss it permanently.
clever summit
MQTT is based on a queue.
sand lotus
i need some kind of msg buffer system but unsure how to impliment that. there's supposed to be syn/ack but i haven't gotten it to work correctly yet.
thats why adafruit likes mqtt so much. that's a great idea.
looked more like PCIE, M.2 would be 1/4 of those pins
mqtt on the pico w sounds nice, get those features up and running
clever summit
MQTT does use ack/nack.
sand lotus
that's nice
clever summit
The MQTT server only deletes the message when the client ack it.
sand lotus
i don't think the adafruit requests library does that. i've been having to code in error handling and looping manually with each API
if it fails it'll do like a 503 error or some random request error
so i've been taking those fail messages and putting them in a literal string then doing an if statement based on the literal return 😛
i want to code my own social media API library that does all the heavy lifting. pyportal, portalbase, matrixportal, etc.. have all that stuff but you can't use it if you don't have a portal based board. so esp, nrf with airlift, etc.. can't use it. have to use adafruit requests. need an easier way.
ohhh didn't know that existed! thank you
that switch is connected to a wire terminal to a board GPIO
i've been wanting to get one yeah, Ruiz Brothers use them in their projects a lot.
does it have built in logging or is that the company name?
i don't see how for a switch but have to ask 🙂
ok that's horrible brand dissymmetry
i don't even know what to call that, like what's you're company name? Undecided Yet. no sir what's your company name. Yes that's the company name Undecided Yet 😛
inner spade
May want to put some tape over the exposed end of the red (v+) wire. Let’s just say I learned to do that a while ago.
sand lotus
be careful, the Ruiz brothers fried a Qt Py connecting it wrong.
i can't remember exactly what they did
they described in one of their streams
inner spade
Hermetically sealed!
sand lotus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TobGgP5J2_w about 7:40 in
inner spade
Don’t need pull on outputs
sand lotus
9:40 they start describing where they went wrong
oh they corrupted the flash, not fried the qt py
on the same device they were trying to control from, the device killed it's own flash, rip
yeah would be like a normally open or closed switch
ah ok no chance of it shutting itself off.
inner spade
It would probably chatter the relay if the controlling device is powered by the normally ON connection.
sand lotus
see all the helpful stuff viewers catch when they actually pay attention to everyone's live streams. 🙂
also why it's just as helpful to publish what not to, and the mistakes that were made along the way.
Code something for your MC server so if you're offline players can kind of try to get your attention for help, like a bat signal.
how it feels when there's no learn guides or repo code for what you want to do
sand lotus
There are WiFi scan bugs out there recently. What is the funhouse using?
Yeah the s2 is the main one affected by the hard reset bug. Only connects after hard reset.
Think Dan figured it out but would have to run latest build for the fix, not sure if PRs even gone through yet.
Stems from the esp idf implementation. Something about idf 4.4.1, check bug reports to read up on it. That one in particular drove me nuts last week.
Looks like you have to specify the adafruitio url as broker in secrets?
Umm yeah it was happening to me on my s2 feather. Only affects people not using web workflow. Which I don’t and why no one else could replicate the issue until anecdata got out of web workflow and could confirm it’s via usb only. Everyone was saying it’s just me having the issue at first, it drove me nuts, made no sense.
brazen chasm
thanks tim. very interesting as per usual
sand lotus
Thank you, always learn something new. I’m gonna checkout that s2 code for portalbase.
short basin
Are there any updates on when the next ADABOX will ship? If there is another chat open on this subject, please point me there.
sand lotus
Oh I missed if the latest build fixes the hard reset bug now?
No info on Adabox, depends if they get parts for it this week. Think Phil said they should know by the end of the week.
It was mentioned in ask an engineer this week. Go to YouTube and watch that video racer.
Ask an engineer is the place where they update the public on the Adabox situation. Best source of info.
inner spade
Thanks!
sand lotus
Looks like fix for WiFi on the S2 non web workflow was just merged and pushed 15 mins ago. Should be available in automated nightly by tomorrow at latest. 🙏😁
unreal bay
Graphics artists working overtime again, nice backdrop JP
haughty quiver
Thanks!
inner spade
👋
sand lotus
John Parks Pick of the Workshop
I really like those expanders. Picked up not 1, not 2, but 8. 🙂
inner spade
80: Almost enough for an 88-key piano keyboard. Wondering if sending velocity could be a thing.
sand lotus
Trinky + Numkey expander is probably great for someone that creates a ortho split keyboard 😉
One thing I love about the HID library is you can turn pretty much any circuit python keyboard into a giant macropad.
ah FIFO has a buffer? That's good to know when looking for chips and modules to ensure they have FIFO support.
or does it only have a buffer because Adafruit put a FIFO buffer on the module?
unreal bay
Can you test holding down 8keys at once then repress one while holding the rest
sand lotus
rp2040 has 2 busses i think. yeah forgot about that.
inner spade
… or an I2C mux to cascade a few
unreal bay
Ah very interesting and useful info, thanks!
sand lotus
great demo
inner spade
Thanks!
haughty quiver
FIFO is built into the chip @sand lotus
sand lotus
awesome, thank you
thanks for the product pick, loaded up with step switches and the expanders, that'll do it for my order of the week. 🙂
cinder wind
What is the MaJPtrix
cinder wind
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shell mason
open surge
good morning ☕
lavish patrol
Greetings, all.
hard hollow
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lavish patrol
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rocky reef
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split gazelle
Good morning folks
split gazelle
i should try it with my old subway passes
lavish patrol
Worth a shot.
rocky reef
RFID Wiz Kit - https://www.adafruit.com/product/5402
lavish patrol
For Thor's weekends. When he chills out and does some gardening...
split gazelle
all the sensors
rocky reef
Jumpy Ghosty -By TomoDesigns - https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/jumpy-ghosty - https://youtu.be/XTGdnW1pqVs
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5555776 headset rig
lavish patrol
We can't see it, @hard hollow or @rocky reef ...
rocky reef
lavish patrol
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rocky reef
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5557891 d20 gravel remix
lavish patrol
Great show again, guys. 😀
upbeat coral
Thank you for sharing your time with us.
split gazelle
thanks for a great stream!
hard hollow
thanks folks! cya tonight 🙂
rocky reef
thanks so much for hanging out folks! see ya tonight!
dire bane
is there another stream tonight?
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dire bane
thank you vm!
tulip canyon
Happy Wednesday everyone 👋
open girder
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haughty quiver
hi!
open surge
👋
upbeat coral
Hey Y'll
open girder
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sand lotus
👋
technically a wireless keyboard is a remote controller..
show & tell twister!
Everyone so quick to code their replacement overlords with ML... does no one watch dystopian robotic future movies?
i do love ML for sorting machines in the fruit industry. some really fast sorters out there.
brazen quail
Hola' from 'rado... 😄 Maker Melissa rocks !!
sage aspen
Thanks
sand lotus
does it come in Vulcan ears?
it does look ferengi, lol good call
when ferengi die, they do sell off their body parts... so legit checks out
umm female ferengi... always nude, except for the rebels like quarks mom.
brazen quail
Phantabulous ear !
sand lotus
dynamic elevation is necessary for pressure calibration, i think.
nova totem
Hi everyone
brazen quail
Zip code importer for calibration maybe ?
sand lotus
interesting
brazen quail
JP is the wire loom master.
split gazelle
how autumnal
sand lotus
looks like a weird USB-A
tribal vault
that sounds like a fun challenge. Good luck Jepler!
sand lotus
that's the biggest nintendo switch ever
split gazelle
i remember seeing that in nintendo power back in the day
nova totem
I'd love to see that keyboard / gamepad updated to use on a modern console. Why... not sure
cinder wind
The next AdaBox is going to be all 1990s-design keyboards
tribal vault
That looks so impractical. I love it
sand lotus
hmm well i know a company that can put an accelerometer in it
aww the canadian pumpkin is cute
tulip canyon
🍁
cinder wind
only Canadian
split gazelle
they're so cute @nova totem
sand lotus
single color flags without symbols would be pretty boring on a pumpkin
tulip canyon
What's that aboot? Mark eh?
nova totem
they're so cute <@228322543507865601>
Thanks! Same friend who became Canadian then wanted many more to display.
tulip canyon
Thanks everyone. Great projects
sand lotus
i'm working on some halloween stuff for next week. 2 weeks on the 26th should be spooky show & tell for all the halloween projects.
nova totem
What's that aboot? Mark eh?
Ha. Funny enough I don't ever say eh. I have friends who do though
upbeat coral
Thanks to all for sharing.