thank you
#circuitpython-dev
raven canopy
when frozen in, they're already in the RAM with the firmware. as i understand it...
marble hornet
???
what do you mean. ooooooh nm
got it, it think
thank you all for the help tonight
😁
tulip sleet
@marble hornet, unlike regular .mpy's they are executed directly from flash, which is possible because they are in the same address space as the RAM. Regular .mpy's have to be loaded from a file into RAM.
raven canopy
one of these days, i'll be able to explain it correctly like that. 😄
marble hornet
kinda like how on the commodore c64 the video ram was in the same adress space as normal ram even though it was used for another function?
just flash and ram in this case ?
tulip sleet
right, in this case it's a mix of read-only and read-write. You can run programs or read data from either.
nrf has the slightly unusual restriction that DMA source must be RAM. SAMD chips don't have that restriction.
marble hornet
neat!
not the nrf thing but, does samd cp code move the flash ?
or does it keep it in ram for ease
tulip sleet
on AVR chips, the RAM is not in the same address space, so there's a special way to read data from flash
not sure I understand your question
marble hornet
can i ask, and at this point i'm just curious, where does ram address 0 exist? when i was flashing the bootloader to the d51 i told it to go address 0x0000 but it did work if ram at the end?
ah, i'm asking: does atmel cp implement the dma from flash ?
tulip sleet
adress 0 is in the flash address space (where the bootloader starts). RAM starts at 0x20000000
we don't DMA much from flash, since it's usually user data, but we don't have to worry about it
This is explained in the "Memories" chapter in the datasheets
tough flax
@tulip sleet I figured that out. I had stupidly declared A0 as the name of my variable that held the digitalio object. When I tried to replicate it I didn’t remember doing it and none of the other pin names worked (of course)
Oh well. I tried 😃
errant veldt
@slender iron @tidal kiln @sly wagon thanks for all your help over the past while on this project. My boy was so stoked that his vision was realized for halloween and is even more excited to learn more hacking skills in the future.
on another note. I've got another cpx here that I can see it grab COM8 when I plug it in, but it does not show up as a drive and bossa says it is unsupported. Any thoughts on how I can resurrect it?
slender iron
@errant veldt are you double tapping to get into the bootloader?
errant veldt
single tap. neopix are green and I have the flashing light.
I can somehow manage to download makecode sketches onto the thing, but can't get it to load as cplayboot like my other one
ashen lily
@slender iron thanks!
slender iron
@errant veldt did you restart your computer? sometimes the usb stack gets unhappy
errant veldt
@slender iron lol I never think of doing that....
I will try and see about that tomorrow. thanks again for all your help on this. btw crickit rocks
slender iron
np, glad you got it going!
errant veldt
it turned out that it was the arduino IDE drivers that messed me up. followed this and it worked like a charm: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-circuit-playground-express/troubleshooting-2
exotic pumice
I have an interesting symptom I'd like to run by you guys
when I run spi.write() to the neopixel, initially it does nothing, but if I then run spi.deinit(), the neopixel turns on. Why would this be?
cedar beacon
On mac, my boards only showup as a mountable drive on the Desktop, not in Finder, and sometimes not at all. Do I need to configure my Mac to behave differently?
marble hornet
how can one write to a txt file that's on the cp drive? i looked for .txt and log and other permutations on the docs or if there is another way to write to a log file that anyone knows of? thank you for any kind of help!
solar whale
@marble hornet look at this guide https://learn.adafruit.com/circuitpython-essentials/circuitpython-storage you have do configure it for writing from CP.
tidal kiln
@marble hornet also: https://learn.adafruit.com/cpu-temperature-logging-with-circuit-python/introduction
upbeat plover
@marble hornet i have some examples of Logging to feather M4, where it just adds to a text file.
i was actaully working on open() lastnight im doing something with NVM and the FLASH using NVM to save the names of files that have been saved to, its going to be a higher end lib
marble hornet
@tidal kiln thnx @upbeat plover what d
upbeat plover
marble hornet
Thanks
upbeat plover
wow that wasnt a very good file to share, like not very many comments, and some of them are just wrong.... like "write to SD card" is "write toFLASH"
upbeat plover
@marble hornet comments fixed, no real reason i used two power pins on the si7021, I just plugged it into the stacking headers and didnt want the 5v in being pulled down or something
manic glacierBOT
lethal abyss
lethal abyss
so if I have a touch.py file, I do import touch
that's what I feared, I have something wrong :
RuntimeError: SDA or SCL needs a pull up
tidal kiln
you can use import like that if you want, but keep in mind it has some quirks. for example, to run it again you would need to do a software reset <CTRL>-<D>
and you don't have access to things as if you had typed them in via REPL
bar =42
print(bar)
>>> import foo
42
>>> bar
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'bar' is not defined
>>> foo.bar
42
>>>
for the I2C error - you need to attach something to the I2C bus
lethal abyss
I only have the CP fixed on the crickit. it happend when I tried to read touch pad values
then I plugged a servo and same happend when setting angle
tidal kiln
the CPX/Crickit are attached with the metal screws and stand offs?
tidal kiln
can you paste the contents of your CIRCUITPY/boot_out.txt file here?
lethal abyss
Adafruit CircuitPython 3.0.3 on 2018-10-10; Adafruit CircuitPlayground Express with Crickit libraries with samd21g18
tidal kiln
ok. that's all good. it sounds like you have access to the REPL, correct?
lethal abyss
yes
tidal kiln
do a <CTRL>-<D> to soft reboot and get back to >>>
lethal abyss
no problem
Adafruit CircuitPython 3.0.3 on 2018-10-10; Adafruit CircuitPlayground Express with Crickit libraries with samd21g18
print("hello")
hello
tidal kiln
now try:
from adafruit_crickit import crickit
the simple import of the crickit lib fails
from adafruit_crickit import crickit
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "adafruit_crickit.py", line 373, in <module>
RuntimeError: SDA or SCL needs a pull up
lethal abyss
tidal kiln
you need to power the crickit
upbeat plover
it looks powered
tidal kiln
thats on the CPX
pastel panther
@slender iron is there a cap on mass storage size for CP?
slender iron
not that I know of
lethal abyss
whithout anything plugged, I need to power the crickit? ok, it looks like I missed that on the tour guide
this is pretty clear, one page about powering 😃
tidal kiln
the crickit can power the CPX, but the CPX can't power the crickit
lethal abyss
I was too confident with all the things I've done with electronics, I was faulty on this one 👼
I now have a nice 3.3V on SDA and SDL
everything now works smoothly
lethal abyss
thanks for the help, now I can start to gather a small video in french for kids in my little workshop organization
pastel panther
@slender iron strange; Perhaps I missed something but I'm only seeing 8MB when I should see 16ish
I double checked the device.h entry (previously was wrong)
pastel panther
🤷 I'm sure you can figure it out if/when you need the space
should/can I do a PR for the board?
pastel panther
okie dokie, coming up
PRs track commits? so I have have a second PR if I have one outstanding on my fork?
tulip sleet
I was recently looking at the code, trying to get a FAT12/16 switch on the 8MB chips (because it turns out it's based on # of clusters, which is based on sector size). Didn't see an issue, but didn't suceed in getting it to switch.
I accepted your recent PR.
pastel panther
ok, thanks
manic glacierBOT
idle owl
@slender iron When does Adabot do the autorelease of the bundle? I forgot to release a lib until today. I think it's fine to wait until tomorrow, but I wondered what time that typically happened.
slender iron
3am my time I think
tulip sleet
@idle owl can you take a look at https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_HID/pull/27? I want to put it in the frozen<->lib update. Also, is the library you want to get into the bundle a new frozen one? (I guess if you have a release it's fine -- I don't need it to be in the bundle to freeze it.)
idle owl
@tulip sleet It's for the TrellisM4 so no, it's not frozen, no need. I'll take a look at the PR.
tulip sleet
tnx!
tulip sleet
i'll do that
idle owl
ok keen
hmm. I just realised maybe width and height aren't so great for the TrellisM4 lib. Because the whole point is the lib lets you rotate. which means it's no longer accurate when at 90 degree rotations. Not sure what else you'd call them though. It's only accurate when a wide side is facing you.
pastel panther
length and width
tulip sleet
x_length and y_length?
pastel panther
also good
idle owl
they're fixed in the lib
so what is x and y when you're looking at it changes, but what is x and y in the lib doesn't change.
tulip sleet
axes can rotate
idle owl
hmm.
tulip sleet
the subscripts are [x,y], right? So I'd make then correspond to that
idle owl
it wouldn't have mattered but I exposed the properties so we could iterate over them and make rainbows. so now it makes the rainbow code seem weird if you have the board rotated.
that doesn't make sense though
tulip sleet
do u use [x,y] or [x][y]
idle owl
because width=8 and height=4 in the lib.
then there's fancy offset math to handle the rotation
[x,y]
tulip sleet
i think people understand x is usually width and y is usually height, so it's not terrible the way it is
idle owl
Right.
That's the problem
you rotate it
and x is now 4 and y is now 8.
and that's how the code will see it
gusty kiln
length / breadth?
idle owl
I might go with width and length. that was my other thought too.
gusty kiln
i'm always stumping for more use of "breadth"
idle owl
it's true!
tulip sleet
if you do rotation=90, then x_length and y_length would flip, and correspond to the new subscripting? I would vote for that, because it's kind of like len(whatever). or row/column??
idle owl
I... think width and height don't change though. if I'm understanding this right. so if you call them directly, which you can do, they're always hardcoded to be 8 and 4 respectively.
for x in range(trellis.pixels.width):
for y in range(trellis.pixels.height):
pixel_index = (((y * 8) + x) * 256 // 32)
trellis.pixels[x, y] = wheel(pixel_index & 255)```
Works right if it's at `rotation=0` but doesn't work if it is `90`. So you can swap them, but then you have to change the math as well.for x in range(trellis.pixels.height):
for y in range(trellis.pixels.width):
pixel_index = ((x + (y * 4)) * 256 // 32)
trellis.pixels[x, y] = wheel(pixel_index & 255)```
`rotation=90`I would make the x_length and y_length change based on rotation, then. Then you don't have to change the rest of the code if you do a rotation at the top of the program
idle owl
Except you'd still have to change your code because you use coordinates in the code
and your coordinates would change
the range of them I mean.
you rotate and (0, 7) is no longer valid.
pastel panther
@gusty kiln If I ever bought a product and it described it's dimensions as "length and breadth" I would be tempted to throw it out the window for being too pompous.
gusty kiln
:P
pastel panther
you might say I would defenestrate it
gusty kiln
hahaha
idle owl
@pastel panther Well played.
gusty kiln
it's now my mission in life to see this happen.
pastel panther
10 points to Slytherin
gusty kiln
well, one of several missions. i have a list.
idle owl
@tulip sleet none of this was an issue until I wanted rainbows. Which I swear I've said with every LED project I've ever done. I break everything with rainbows. Initially width and height weren't exposed so it was irrelevant.
tulip sleet
idle owl
the library creates offsets for the rotations
tulip sleet
The 8 and the 4 in your examples above shouldn't be magic numbers: you can use the .width and .length or whatever they're called this minute.
in math code, the dimensions of an array are called the shape, e.g. https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-1.15.0/reference/generated/numpy.ndarray.shape.html#numpy.ndarray.shape
so shape[0] and shape[1] define the range of the 0th and 1st subscript
idle owl
ok..
tulip sleet
that's certainly not familiar to most people, though
a.shape of some array returns something like (2,3), or (2,5,9) for a 3d array
i have to change the subject a bit completely: both crickit and cpx libs have this code:
sys.path.insert(0, ".frozen") # Prefer frozen modules over local.
so there's actually no way to override a frozen module if you use one of those libraries without change. I could make this smarter, so it doesn't insert ".frozen" at the very beginning, esp if ".frozen" is already before "lib".
or we could just leave it alone and say if you're debugging, you have to take that line out
idle owl
I think we should update the libs.
We're fixing the issue globally, and with a purpose to allow debugging, so I feel like we should take advantage of it
tulip sleet
just take that out, or compensate for old CPy versions?
allow upward compatibility, at least approximately?
i guess I'll check for .frozen being after lib and insert it before only if that's true, and i'll insert it before lib but after anything else, so not at position 0.
fluid helm
Yay! just got my order confirmation for Hacktoberfest. Looks like contributing to CircuitPython topped off my 5 PRs!
idle owl
@tulip sleet Ok
@tulip sleet Sorry for delay I had the window scrolled trying to figure this out.
tidal kiln
@idle owl lots of scroll back on this, i may be too late, so may not help, but for xy coords and rotation - maybe look at how the GFX lib handles it?
idle owl
@tidal kiln isn't that arduino
tidal kiln
yep. so just in general - what do width/height or (x,y) mean when rotated? etc.
tidal kiln
@tulip sleet q on precision. i've got some code where i'm currently just blindly coding up the math from the data sheet:
https://github.com/caternuson/Adafruit_CircuitPython_BMP3XX/blob/master/adafruit_bmp3xx.py#L197
it seems to work, but wondering if i'm running into any precision issues with those huge exponents?
exotic pumice
re-asking not at midnight
"I have an interesting symptom I'd like to run by you guys
when I run spi.write() to the neopixel, initially it does nothing, but if I then run spi.deinit(), the neopixel turns on. Why would this be?"
tulip sleet
@tidal kiln The integer 2**<large number> will not work on non-longint builds (non-express: Gemma and Trinket M0). it will generate an integer overflow. You can force these to floating point by making the 2 or the exponent be a floating point number (2.0, 65.0, etc.).
The range of the single precision floats is about 1-e38 to 1e38
@exotic pumice I think the deinit() turning on the neopixel is due to glitches on the signal line. It's probably not useful.
exotic pumice
ok
thanks
I've found a few cases where others have got it to work at 3MHz but I haven't had much success myself.
tulip sleet
we have seen this kind of glitch before when the Circuit Playground Express bootloader was switching states and hadn't disabled the NeoPixel pins.
I think without a more precise SPI clock rate, this is not going to work reliably
idle owl
@tulip sleet I reviewed both of those PRs, travis is unhappy with the constant name, fyi.
tulip sleet
ugh, ok, thanks. I should have pylint'd it in advance
@idle owl it's not even a constant
idle owl
@tulip sleet hah!
tulip sleet
i guess it's complaining because it's at the top level
idle owl
Silly pylint.
tidal kiln
@tulip sleet cool. thanks.
Adafruit CircuitPython 3.0.2 on 2018-09-14; Adafruit Trinket M0 with samd21e18
>>> 2**65
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
OverflowError: small int overflow
>>> 2**65.
3.68935e+19
>>>
Adafruit CircuitPython 3.0.3 on 2018-10-10; Adafruit ItsyBitsy M4 Express with samd51g19
>>> 2**65
36893488147419103232
>>> 2**65.
3.68935e+19
>>>
right, exactly. are the coeffecients very small or very large also?
tidal kiln
can't remember. i think they're largeish. i can check real quick...
tidal kiln
yep. unpacked from a block read of registers:
coeff = struct.unpack("<HHbhhbbHHbbhbb", coeff)
i don't think they're that big
>>> raw = bmp._read_register(0x31, 21)
>>> coef = struct.unpack("<HHbhhbbHHbbhbb", raw)
>>> coef
(27561, 18848, -10, -295, -2856, 35, 0, 25751, 30855, -13, -10, 16140, 19, -60)
>>>
yah. not even close to e50.
tulip sleet
@tidal kiln (sorry, talking to my wife about something) yeah, I was just worried about something like 1e-38/1e38
tulip sleet
looks ok otherwise
tidal kiln
ok. thanks. there's still the code review gauntlet if there are other tweaks.
tulip sleet
@idle owl fixed the pylint problems on those PR's. Now passing.
idle owl
@tulip sleet merged
tulip sleet
I'll make releases. thanks!
idle owl
Thanks for getting everything updated!
tulip sleet
it's always not quite as simple as it seems. And esp8266 has a weird sys.path, looking at that, but should have a 3.x PR soon.
sly wagon
I knew I got a notification but I couldn't find it cause it was from 1am haha! Glad you got it working @errant veldt !!! did you end up sticking w/ circuitpython or did you change things up a bit ?
upbeat plover
@marble hornet you probably already know about the open() in python but i found this useful, im gana try using it in my storage lib im trying to put together, i want to try the read chunk out on huge files
https://www.smallsurething.com/how-to-read-a-file-properly-in-python/
tulip sleet
@idle owl LIS3DH commits are way ahead of release; does it need a a new release?
idle owl
Oh probably if that's the case.
tulip sleet
maybe it's just examples
idle owl
Still needs a release if it's examples. But not a release for your purposes if that's all it is.
tulip sleet
a couple of other ones have commits ahead of release, like pylint fixes, etc. Should I make releasese for those?
idle owl
I mean we should always be doing releases for updates. Then we don't miss it when it's crucial, even if the update is a minor fix.
tulip sleet
ok, I'll make releases; it's easy
idle owl
Thanks!
marble hornet
@upbeat plover so, does the programs save to a file?
tidal kiln
@tulip sleet hopefully soon we'll have a check for that:
https://github.com/adafruit/adabot/issues/18
marble hornet
or to nvm?
tidal kiln
@raven canopy awesome sauce
upbeat plover
@marble hornet I don't know how to save to file yet. I'd like to do b+ mode in open() and write to file, but instead of adding to it change values at addresses
raven canopy
mostly just need to refactor a nested try:. i don't like them...
sly wagon
quick question. I've seen this in a bunch of example code: PURPLE = (0x10, 0, 0x10), what's the benefit of me using hex notation like that to setup values vs PURPLE = (16, 0, 16) ? Is it just to give users the option to do it? Is it to make it easier for arduino only people to come to the circuit python side? Just curious
raven canopy
@tidal kiln sneek peek:
Found tag name: 1.3.1
Found status: behind
Compare adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Register status: behind
Ahead: 0 Behind: 1 Commits: 0
Found tag name: 1.1.0
Found status: behind
Compare adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_OneWire status: behind
Ahead: 0 Behind: 1 Commits: 0
Found tag name: 3.1.0
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@sly wagon Simply an option.
sly wagon
got it, thank you!
tidal kiln
@sly wagon yep. just different ways of representing numbers. normal numbers are fine. the0x in front means the numbers are in hex. you can even add a 0b in front to do binary.
>>> 10
10
>>> 0x10
16
>>> 0b1101
13
>>>
@raven canopy neat
solar whale
@upbeat plover @marble hornet just a thought about using NVM. I have not seen you mention it so I want to be sure you are aware that the number write cycles is limited. It will “wear out “. I’m not sure if the spec for these parts. Likely 10s of thousands but that is not hard to reach when logging data.
sly wagon
@tidal kiln awesome, many thanks !
solar whale
No, reading is not limited.
slender iron
@solar whale did you try USB HID on nRF?
solar whale
@slender iron i idid a simple test for hatach a few months ago. Just a key code and a mouse motion.
slender iron
hrm ok, it looks broken to me in tinyusb but its possible it was broken later
thanks!
solar whale
I’m on the road so I can’t test it until next week. Sorry
marble hornet
@solar whale thanks for the heads up
solar whale
@marble hornet you’re welcome. I had visions of a rapid write cycle in a data logger test that could cause problems pretty quickly!
slender iron
nvm, I found what I was missing
sturdy furnace
Hi all,
I'm getting a bug which crashes my CPX when collecting temp data.
The error:
b'Traceback (most recent call last):'
b' File "code.py", line 247, in <module>'
b' File "code.py", line 233, in main'
b' File "adafruit_thermistor.py", line 88, in temperature'
Which I tracked to this line: steinhart += 1.0 / (self.nominal_temperature + 273.15)
in this repo.
I don't quite understand what is going wrong and can't seem to replicate it in the REPL for debugging.
I'm using the standard 25 deg C nominal_temperature.
Anyone have any ideas?
solar whale
@sturdy furnace is there more to the error message. That says where but not what. Any chance self.nominal_temperature is —273.15? Causing divide by zero?
tidal kiln
@raiden#5305 was there more to the error message? the last output is usually something indicating what kind of error
sturdy furnace
No I think that's all I'm getting. But let me try again
and the value for the nominal temp is 25
solar whale
It was worth asking 😉
sturdy furnace
@solar whale Oh fair enough, people do weird things 😆
@solar whale @tidal kiln nope that's all I'm getting as an error message. I've been trying to prdouce the error in the REPL wiht no luck.
It's pretty intermitent, maybe 40-50% of the time it happens.
I also have 4 CPXs and it's happening on all of them 😦 I've tried two different bootloaders as well
solar whale
Where do you see the error message?
sturdy furnace
I'm reading through the serial port on a raspberry pi
so either through, cu, pyserial, or node
solar whale
Makes no sense to me. Can you post the full code you are running? I can’t look at it much until tomorrow, but possibly someone can try to reproduce the error
sturdy furnace
Yup, shall I just upload the file here?
solar whale
Sure
sturdy furnace
@solar whale here you go, thanks for your help 👍.
Line 102 is the thermistor initialisation
solar whale
Ok. Hope to be able to look at it tomorrow.
tidal kiln
@sturdy furnace your set up is a CPX attached to an RPi via serial? and that's the code running on the CPX?
sly wagon
ok, got another dumb question friends. I'm trying to make more sense of the wheel function that you can find all throughout a bunch of examples out there. Basically what i'm trying to do, is have wheel produce R.G,B values that are closer to the color purple instead of the usual rainbow. Doing it with red is super simple, but i'm having a brain fart moment. If you have a blog post you recommend i'd appreciate it 😃
red only wheel func btw:
def wheel(pos):
# print("func = 'wheel' pos='{}'".format(pos))
# pos = 255 - pos
# Input a value 0 to 255 to get a color value.
# The colours are a transition r - g - b - back to r.
if pos < 85:
rgb = (int(255 - (pos*3)), 0, 0)
print("Inside: pos < 85 ... rgb = '{}'".format(rgb))
return rgb
elif pos < 170:
pos -= 85
rgb = (0, 0, 0)
print("Inside: pos < 170 ... pos = '{}' rgb = '{}'".format(pos, rgb))
return rgb
else:
pos -= 170
rgb = (int(pos*3), 0, 0)
print("Inside: pos < 170 ... pos = '{}' rgb = '{}'".format(pos, rgb))
return rgb
@sturdy furnace do you have anything in your buffer.txt file when you run your code? if so , can you post a sample file.
tidal kiln
@solar whale i just made one with done in it to get past that. it doesn't look like it's doing anything with the parsing results. sda_port isn't used anywhere else.
solar whale
@tidal kiln sounds good. Do you get any errors?
tidal kiln
not by running it via repl, but it sounds like they didn't either
so must be something about the rpi setup
solar whale
I'm still unclear what the error is and where it is seen - is it in the code.py output to the REPL . TH CPX is not using TX/RX ( unless I am missing it) so it does know wha the RPi is doing.
tidal kiln
yah. same here. don't fully understand the hw setup. that's what i'm asking them about. it could be something hw vs. code.
solar whale
ok - glad you are on it.I do have a CPX with me and will poke at it tomorrow. Need to get some sleep now...💤
tidal kiln
yep. no worries. we'll see if they respond. later.
sturdy furnace
@tidal kiln @solar whale sorry guys went and grabbed lunch. I have 4 CPXs attached to the USB ports of the pi, each one with the same code.py. Only one of the CPXs fails when this error occurs.
The error is appearing at the command line in a seperate screen
buffer.txt is used as a file buffer to send non-blocking neopixel cmds. So an example is p 10, c 1 1 1. The temperature reading doesn't really rely on that at all.
Also the pi is running stretch lite, and I've tried two bootloaders: 3.0.0rc and 3.0.3
tidal kiln
When and how are your writing to buffer.txt?
sturdy furnace
A python script writes to the file (rpi side), and the CPX does reading (no writing)
tidal kiln
If you dont write to the file and just let the code run, does it get the error.
sturdy furnace
I'll give it a try
tulip sleet
@sturdy furnace what version of CPy are you using? Please upgrade to 3.0.3 if older than that. There was a usb output bug fixed after 3.0.1 that -might- have to do with this. https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/releases/download/3.0.3/adafruit-circuitpython-circuitplayground_express-3.0.3.uf2
manic glacierBOT
solar whale
@sturdy furnace when I run your program , I don't see any output at all. You are only printing something if n0w-last > SAMPLE_RATE, but SAMPLE_RATE is 48000 so it will only print about once every 12 hours, Is that your intent? Or am I misreading the code?
BTW - I tried it with CP 3.0.1 but have not reproduced the error.
solar whale
@sturdy furnace I see I did misread the code and the print intervals are not using SAMPLE_RATE but now I am not sure why I see no output.
tepid sapphire
Hi, some news about BLE to NORDIC NRF52 ?
tulip sleet
@tepid sapphire still working on it.
solar whale
@sturdy furnace - ok -- I used a buffer.xt with just done and I get output -- with CP 3.0.1 I am seeing ```Press any key to enter the REPL. Use CTRL-D to reload.
Adafruit CircuitPython 3.0.1 on 2018-08-21; Adafruit CircuitPlayground Express with samd21g18
soft reboot
Auto-reload is off.
code.py output:
light: 10976
light: 11984
temperature: 24.3319
uid: ;DH1MPJ1.6&ÿ
light: 11808
light: 10400
temperature: 23.7407
uid: ;DH1MPJ1.6&ÿ
light: 11136
light: 11488
light: 7696
temperature: 24.4637
uid: ;DH1MPJ1.6&ÿ
same with CP3.0.3
same with 4.0.0 - alpha 2
Adafruit CircuitPython 4.0.0-alpha.2 on 2018-10-16; Adafruit CircuitPlayground Express with samd21g18
>>> import microcontroller
>>> microcontroller.cpu.uid
bytearray(b';D\x04\x1eH1MPJ1.6&\x1b\x07\xff')
>>> ```@sturdy furnace I have it running as code.py under CP4.0.0-alpha2 with buffer.txt done -- I am not seeing any errors. One thought, Depending on the values in your UID could the attempt to print them be causing some error? How often is buffer.txt updated? Do the errors coincide with the time of update of buffer.txt?
tulip sleet
NOTE Please don't use 3.1.0 - I tagged it on master by mistake. I'll make a 3.1.1 that's correct.
tulip sleet
upbeat plover
to update build stuff, i just use
cd circuitpython
and
git pull
?
tidal kiln
sounds like you're trying to sync your fork of CP? if so:
https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork/
upbeat plover
thank you
i did something wrong... i ended up just backup up my board changes then doing git clone https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython.git for fresh... dargh 😬
tulip sleet
Do you have a fork or just a clone?
also you need to do git submodule update --init --recursive
upbeat plover
just clone
tulip sleet
In the long run, it's a good idea to make a fork, so that you can back up and keep track of your changes (if you plan to make some).
upbeat plover
im okay with doing that all locally, not hard to copy paste
i got 700+gb free on this hd
tepid sapphire
thank you Danh
tidal kiln
@upbeat plover are you actually making changes to the cloned copy?
upbeat plover
only to mpconfigboard.mk, adding libs to frozen
tidal kiln
are you committing those to the main branch?
simple pulsar
Hi, I just put 3.1.1 on a CPX board. Am I expecting to see a new .frozen directory appear after the UF2 is applied? Or do I have to get it from somewhere? Or is not a real directory?
It appears to work ok without it
tough flax
Hey @tulip sleet - is there a reason serial_bytes_available isn't going into 3.x? One of the drivers was to use it as a work around until asyncio was in
It might be my fault (I just put it where I was told, but I could have been more specific)
slender iron
@simple pulsar the .frozen is fake and is used to represent the modules that are frozen into the firmware
river quest
steep moth
Hello @solar whale!
solar whale
👋
median trellis
I got the new Neotrellis M4. The guide seems like a quick copy paste job and doesn't actually cover getting the example code going. I couldn't find a uf2 file for this board on the repo so I put the feather m4 express one on there based on the guide using it as an example. Now it never goes into boot mode so I dont know what to do.
simple pulsar
@slender iron Worth mentioning .frozen being a pseudo-direction a bit in things like release notes (and the annoucements during this transition) otherwise I think you'll bemuse and get questions, e.g.
tulip sleet
@median trellis There are Trellis M4 .uf2's here: https://adafruit-circuit-python.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html?prefix=bin/trellis_m4_express/. DON'T use the 3.1.0 ones -- that's a tagging error and I'm going to delete them. You can just pick a recent build.
Are you saying if you doubleclick the reset button now you don't see a TRELM4BOOT drive?
@tough flax The PR was a merge into master, meaning 4.0. Can you use the 4.0 alpha for your work? It's pretty stable on samd boards.
median trellis
Yeah I don't get TRELM4BOOT. I did once. What can I do now?
I tried using the same cable for an itsybitsy and it shows up just fine so the cable is good.
@tulip sleet
tulip sleet
@simple pulsar I added some explication to the release notes.
@median trellis what color is the RGB led on the bottom when you double-click?
median trellis
It never changes. Stays red/magenta
tulip sleet
I'm going to do some checking on the bootloader. back later. sorry about this.
median trellis
Oops let me clarify. I never ever got TRELM4BOOT. Thats why I tried to put a .uf2 on there
Thanks @tulip sleet
I just tried about 6 times and finally got it to boot
Maybe the switch isnt always working?
@tulip sleet do you know where the example code is for this board? For example the code they ran on Ask an Engineer?
tulip sleet
@median trellis no, I don't, it was done like two days ago. I saved the factory demo (which is very simple). Do you have a J-Link or similar?
exotic pumice
tulip sleet
ok, great thanks @exotic pumice !
median trellis
thanks @exotic pumice but those are the arduino examples. I want to use python. The example they were running was a sample sequencer written in python.
exotic pumice
you sure?
harsh rain
Hola
meager fog
@median trellis ill be writing up the drum machine demo for circuitpy shortly
@median trellis i could sneak it to ya 😉
harsh rain
LADYADA IS HERE!!!
meager fog
did you get your trellis booting
harsh rain
Yay!!
median trellis
@meager fog or you could let me review it for you and give you feedback
meager fog
who is Neo?
oh Noe yeah!
but is your trellis still 😦
or did you get it into bootloading mode?
median trellis
It booted!
median trellis
might be an issue of going through a USB C adapter... 😛
harsh rain
Off topic sorry :/
meager fog
@harsh rain all good - we have a guide on switches! just use one half of it
harsh rain
Ah ok thanks
meager fog
tulip sleet
@median trellis did you finally get double-click to work? How'd you get it back to ...BOOT?
meager fog
pig, check that out, it has everything u need!
harsh rain
Thanks so much!!
tulip sleet
@median trellis ladyada and I were discussing your issue
harsh rain
You should make circuit python version of Metro board full size. Yes the feather is bueno but the Metro Logo looks beautiful
tulip sleet
@median trellis ladyada and I were discussing your issue
harsh rain
You should make circuit python version of Metro board full size. Yes the feather is bueno but the Metro Logo looks beautiful
median trellis
@meager fog got it
harsh rain
10/10 pcb board design
median trellis
now CIRCUITPY is mounted
meager fog
thanks blasted!
ok unzip the drumkit, drag those files onto CIRCUITPY
it should reboot once all are copied
exotic pumice
omg I think I found what I've been trying to do for weeks https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_NeoPixel_ZeroDMA/blob/master/Adafruit_NeoPixel_ZeroDMA.cpp
harsh rain
You guys gonna restock OG NeoTrellis?? ‘‘Twas a great board
exotic pumice
SPI neopixels
harsh rain
Will do!
harsh rain
Anyone know is Maker Space has CNC machines?
median trellis
thanks @meager fog . Gonna try that now. Thanks for your help! I'm sure you had better things to do. I am a software QA Automation Engineer by day and use Python and Selenium. Really excited to use CircuitPython and Micro Python for my maker projects.
meager fog
disrupt - awesome 😃
disrupt - plz delete welcome.wav, i wasnt supposed to give that to you. its a sekret 😃
harsh rain
😂😂
meager fog
harsh rain
@meager fog you should do a Ultimaker3 or OtherMill pro giveaway for Christmas 🎄
meager fog
YAY
harsh rain
10/10 Corsair keyboard?
median trellis
Its a Razer Ornata Chroma
meager fog
digikey does digiwish as well
harsh rain
Ah
Ladyada the Raspberry Pi Parts Kit is a great deal, has to buy one
All the parts for great price 🤗
median trellis
Thanks again @meager fog. I'll post about this a lot tonight and tomorrow on my IG and tell people to buy one. www.instagram.com/DisruptItYourself
tulip sleet
@median trellis sorry to go back to the orig problem, but did you just have to wiggle the USB-C or unplug/plug or something? We could use your initial experience for future support.
to get to TRELM4BOOT?
harsh rain
meager fog
@median trellis sweet! hope you have fun, post here if you have questions
harsh rain
@meager fog You heard of the Midifighter 64?
meager fog
hmm i think so - that is from a few years ago right?
ok folks - itz zzz time for me
💤 nite nite!
harsh rain
Cya!! Thanks for talking
meager fog
cya blasted!
tough flax
@tulip sleet this is more about the guide I'm writing... it goes into some detail showing how to use that feature to control CP from a PC/Mac using the serial port. What's the timeframe for 4.0's release?
tulip sleet
@tough flax it will be some months, because we have a lot of work to do on nrf52 and displayio, but you can point people to the alpha releases for now -- the code you show is runnable now with the alpha
tulip sleet
I can discuss it with @slender iron - there's no inherent objection. We are trying not to do a lot with 3.x except when necessary. The latest release was to solve a persistent support problem. But you don't want to point to the alphas?
Scott is doing a complete rework of USB which will probably allow a second serial channel on USB CDC.
tough flax
@tulip sleet - I'm aware of the second channel - the point of this guide is to give a solution that works with the current USB code for folks waiting for it
In other words, I probably forked the wrong version
ruby lake
now that apple deathmarch is over, maybe I can get back to some cp
tough flax
I can use the 4.0 alpha for my work tweaking it (still working on that problem with linux)
But I'm willing to do the work to back-port it if needed
Are you an admin on the Learning System? I can send you a link to the WIP guide
tulip sleet
I can see in-progress stuff, I think, at least some
slender iron
@tough flax happy to accept a PR and make a new release to backport it
carmine wind
I think this is the correct topic for my question but I am new to this space so be gentle.
I am trying to get CircuitPython working on a Raspberry Pi Zero W. The adafruit page for Installing CircuitPython on Raspberry Pi states that CircuitPython works on a Pi Zero. When I try to run the blinkatest.py program I get a "NotImplementedError: Board not supported" error on the "import board" line of code. I modified board.py to print the board type and it comes back as "raspi_1". Tha adafruit page states that the Raspberry pi 1 is not supported by CircuitPython. Can anyone shed some light on this problem? Is Raspberry Pi Zero W supported by CircuitPython? Thanks in advance...
tall bay
Does CP support Python's requests library?
solar whale
@tall bay it works with https://github.com/micropython/micropython-lib/tree/master/urequests on an esp8266
solar whale
I have not tried the “standard “requests lib.
tough flax
@slender iron thanks. I want to make sure I’m using the right branch this time. Where do you want me to pull from? Also this is a simple PR but on more complicated ones is there’s process/tool for back porting? I should I just recreated it and we’ll deal with conflicts when 4.0 rebased?
raven canopy
installing travis CLI is... 😡
timber mango
@tulip sleet I couldn't figure out how to get to CIRCUITPY on Trellis M4 using the reset switch, but the boot drive was always accessible in Debian (amd64).
I copied CURRENT.UF2 off the shipped version (off the Trellis M4, as shipped) and put in a version of CircuitPython you linked last night.
lady ada's drum zip did what it is supposed to do, first try. I did not load a bundle lib; I only used the lib she provided in that zip.
I was able to rewrite code.py with a few mods (to dim the NeoPixels). I get the correct sounds (decently loud) in the headphone jack (to my usual headphones).
I don't have an elastomer keypad to check the buttons.
Adafruit CircuitPython 450c06e on 2018-10-28; Adafruit Trellis M4 Express with samd51g19
I don't know which lib bundle corresponds to that. ;)
tulip sleet
@timber mango Use the 4.x bundle
timber mango
"None of the above is a complaint - just information for you." hehe
tulip sleet
@tough flax start with the 3.x branch.
@carmine wind Most CircuitPython libraries are supported on RPi You use regular RPi Python and the blinks wrapper library. You can install our libraries using pupils, and blinka and other needed libraries will be installed automatically
slender iron
<@&356864093652516868> The US shifts time this weekend so beware that if you are outside the US then the meeting time may change.
raven canopy
-1. "Spring forw..." @timber mango beat me to it... 😄
timber mango
hehe
1st Sunday in November daylight > standard time
2nd Sunday in March standard > daylight savings time
This always happens at 2:00 a.m. in the local time zone (in the timekeeping system to be replaced).
In this case, 01:59:59 EDT is followed (in the next second) by 01:00:00 EST.
So if you're planning on that electronic caper, that's the exact moment of change-over for ya. ;)
stiff cedar
Does circuitpython have all of the builtins that micropython has?
tough flax
Ok, I need some basic git help here. I feel dumb. I have an existing fork of CP that I made the changes for serial_bytes_available on... https://github.com/ATMakersBill/circuitpython I now need to redo those changes on a different branch (3.x). I'm OK with just starting from scratch and creating a new fork, but that seems like I'd litter both my GitHub account and anyone who might have used it with a bunch of cruft.
Is there a way to change what that fork is based on? Even if I have to recreate the changes manually it would be nice to keep the URL etc.
ruby atlas
tough flax
My current plan is to change the default branch on my repository, checkout a new copy, use standard ediff to move over the changes and create a new pull request. Does that work?
stiff cedar
@ruby atlas thank you!
hmm, is there somewhere that lists the amount of flash space that circuitpython requires?
tulip sleet
@tough flax Assuming you have a remote named adafruit, do:
git fetch adafruit # fetch anything new from adafruit/circuitpython
git checkout 3.x
git merge adafruit/3.x # this should be a fast-forward
git checkout -b 3.x-serial_bytes_available # or whatever you want to call it
... # make changes
If the changes are identical to master, you could "cherry-pick" the commit(s) on master, but it's a bit tricky
@stiff cedar CPy uses up all of flash on all the boards it supports
tough flax
No, that's what my plan was (I called adafruit 'upstream')
stiff cedar
@tulip sleet what? that doesn't make sense, you wouldn't be able to add any code yourself then?
tough flax
@tulip sleet and I added a "build this to make sure it works" before my branch 😃
tulip sleet
your code is stored in an in-flash filesystem. On boards with no SPI flash chip, there's a tiny 64kB filesystem for you to use. On boards with an SPI flash chip ("Express" boards), all of internal flash is dedicated to CPy, and your files are stored on the 2MB or 8MB external filesystem in the SPI flash chip
tough flax
I will tell you that git has a much sharper learning curve than other cm tools I've used
idle owl
@tough flax I wrote a massive guide on it because of that.
tough flax
@idle owl link please?
stiff cedar
@tulip sleet, ok! I am using a non-express board (the adalogger M0 board), so that means I have 64k of flash for my code and libraries?
idle owl
@tough flax You may already be past needing what's in here. It's meant for someone starting out. https://learn.adafruit.com/contribute-to-circuitpython-with-git-and-github/overview
But there could be a gem in there you could use.
tulip sleet
@stiff cedar right, only 64kB. So store only the libraries you’re using.
stiff cedar
danh, ok. What I'll likely do then is only have the sd card library on the chip flash and then put everything else on the sd card. 😃 Thanks
tough flax
My general CM and rev control background is pretty strong (SVN, ClearCase, RCS back in the day) but I'm just feeling my way through git - this will help
tulip sleet
Also there are features omitted on those boards to make room for the file system
You’ll have to mount the sd card as a file system before you import anything, and also add it to sys.path
stiff cedar
danh, is there a page that lists what is omitted?
and yes, I am reading a quick guide on mounting the sd card and adding it to syspath
raven canopy
@stiff cedar there is an "included list", so not as easy as an "exluded list". https://circuitpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shared-bindings/index.html#support-matrix
stiff cedar
@raven canopy ok, so anywhere it says SAMD21 or all supported I should be good, thank you.
raven canopy
yep. yw! happy CircuitPython'ing! 
tough flax
@idle owl your guide is very helpful!
idle owl
Excellent!
stiff cedar
So, on and adalogger M0, if I am using python libraries on an sd card what happens if I take the sd card out while the adalogger is on?
will I just need to press the reset button when I put the sd card back in?
Or will it automatically reset?
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tough flax
@idle owl my only glitch on following your guide is that it doesn't handle the case where you're working off of a branch other than master - not a big deal, and I figured it out, but I thought you'd like the feedback 😃
@chrome perch and @slender iron I've submitted the PR - travis isn't done yet, but it's ready for your review (whenever)
I am getting this error on the 3.x build of CPX (Trinket built fine)
-40 bytes free in flash out of 253440 bytes ( 247.5 kb ).
4072 bytes free in ram for stack out of 32768 bytes ( 32.0 kb ).
Too little flash!!!
Is this my PR's fault or a known issue on 3.x right now?
idle owl
@tough flax It's probably worth adding to the guide. I've not done it much, and that guide is my workflow so that's probably why it was skipped.
tough flax
Even just a pointer that says "note, if you're working on another branch, this won't work 😃 "
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idle owl
Where's the breakdown occur? As in where in the workflow... when you're creating your branch in the beginning?
tough flax
When you're pushing it back to github
it says there's no upstream branch
And the PR needs to be against the right branch as well
idle owl
ah
tulip sleet
@tough flax the CPX build is very tight right now. Was 16 bytes free before your additions. Try setting CFLAGS_INLINE_LIMIT = 55, 50 or 45 in the mpconfigboard.mk for CPX. Keep reducing until it fits. Example in pirkey . If this is confusing, I can fix it later in your or
PR
(On phone)
tough flax
ok... checking to make sure it builds before my changes
Something to check next time 😃
72 bytes free in flash out of 253440 bytes ( 247.5 kb ).
4072 bytes free in ram for stack out of 32768 bytes ( 32.0 kb ).
Before my changes 😃
@tulip sleet that fixed it - btw is there a target to build all boards (like travis does) in the Makefile?
tulip sleet
No, but there’s a shell script in tools/
tough flax
Ok, I'll take a look
I'll commit that change to the .mk file
@idle owl here's the error I got that I needed to fix
fatal: The current branch serial_bytes_avail_backport has no upstream branch.
To push the current branch and set the remote as upstream, use
git push --set-upstream origin serial_bytes_avail_backport
interesting. Good that Git is helpful at least.
well minus the typo I caught.
I'll consider explaining it more when I have time, but would that have been sufficient for you to at least know you needed to fix it?
tough flax
Yep - perhaps a pointer to ask here if stuck
but yes, it eliminates the "oh CR*#)P" thought when you see the FATAL error
idle owl
ok. good enough for now.
Thanks for the feedback!
I need to finish the page on updating your branch if you get behind too, but haven't had time
tough flax
Travis is happier with the PR - I'll leave it to you guys to review & merge - thanks! https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/1317
Strange Q - is there a way in CP to redirect stdout to a file? debugging the serial port would be easier if I could add print() statements that went to a file instead so it wouldn't throw off the serial data
stiff cedar
Hmm, I think this tutorial has an issue: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-ultimate-gps-featherwing/circuitpython-library
the few places where the adafruit_gps.send_command function is listed show a standard string being passed. The examples in the adafruit_gps github repo show that those actually need to be binary strings.
e.g. if you don't append the passed string with a b it throws an error about unsupported types.
umbral dagger
Yeah... I found the same.
idle owl
@stiff cedar There's a feedback link on all guides, you can click it and provide the feedback there.
@tulip sleet Does that mean we never needed the self._i2c in the CPX lib either?
tulip sleet
@idle owl it looks like it, cause it's only used in one place, as far as I can tell. I thought there were more i2c devs on the CPX board, but that's not true, just the lis3dh
idle owl
Hmm ok.
I'm not going to bother to fix it, but wanted to make sure I understood it right
I changed it to the first way you suggested because that's always how we do it in code, so I wanted it to be as readable as if it were in code
tulip sleet
yah, could just be fixed later as part of any cleanup. Pretyt low priority. It probably saves 10-20 bytes or so.
@idle owl is the adxl345 easier to use and/or cheaper than the lis3dh?
idle owl
@tulip sleet Not sure. @pastel panther wrote the lib for the ADXL345 so would know how easy it is to deal with, but I don't think has looked into LIS3DH to have a comparison. Can't be worse, I'll tell you that much.
Not sure about cost.
tulip sleet
it's more expensive in the store, but the product description for the previous generation of the part says "our favorite"
ok, just curious
pastel panther
I wish the bot would just tell me what word I said was so horrible so I could correct it.. 😦
cunning crypt
Starts with a "d"
pastel panther
and holds back water?
cunning crypt
Yep
pastel panther
😐
idle owl
The bot isn't smart.
cunning crypt
Except the version you used was more of the religious condemnation type
pastel panther
I forgot what it was but it let something by the other day that was surprising
cunning crypt
I've seen a few things, and have to agree with @idle owl - The bot is not smart.
pastel panther
@tulip sleet IRREGARDLESS the 345 driver was rather easy to port however I haven't worked on the more advanced features like tap so it may get more gross, but I don't expect it to. The datasheet is delightful. The comparing it to the LIS3DH, the 343 is apparently functionally equivalent to the 345 and substantially cheaper
stiff cedar
@idle owl thanks for the heads up about the feedback!
solar whale
@idle owl FYI getting “404” on the link to the new trellism4 library release.
idle owl
Yeah because I deleted it. There's a major issue with it.
solar whale
😟sorry to hear that. Good luck!
median trellis
ok @meager fog the NeoTrellis is working and I am very VERY happy with it but my mind is already running wild with all of the things I want to do with it. The first thing I want to try is giving the option of holding down any of the first buttons on the far left for 2 seconds to allow you to change the sample to another for that section by having groupings by bass, snare, hihat etc. I have a bunch of samples from my Ableton Live library that I have selected but I'm trying to figure out how to get them into the right format. I noticed the wave_parsing.py file checks for a chunk_id, subchunk_id, audio_format, and a number of others. All I know is that my wave files are 2304kbps compared to your 768kbps and when I try to drop them in they throw a bunch of those RuntimeErrors. Chatting with Noe I know you are seriously busy right now, even more than usual... so if your answer to this is "It will be in the full guide" I can more than except that. The question being, of course: How do I get my wave files into the right format?
exotic pumice
audacity?
steep moth
That's what I used.
median trellis
I tried audacity. Couldnt get it right.
@steep moth could you point me in the right direction?
steep moth
It was a bunch of trial and error for me, but sure I can try to help you in a little bit.
median trellis
I have four files I'm trying to convert. I spend two hours trying to make them work and I couldn't.
steep moth
@median trellis you need to change the refresh rate. When you change the refresh rate, you will notice that the audio plays slower, you will have to select the audio and set the speed of it. It has been a while since I have done this, but I think that is what I did to get it to work.
idle owl
@solar whale I had to revert a change. Not a huge deal. But I wanted to make sure there wasn't a way around it. There was not.
solar whale
@idle owl I have one arriving Monday. Looking forward to playing with it.
idle owl
@solar whale Nice!
steep moth
@solar whale are you going to make the NeoTrellis M4 play cat sounds?
solar whale
Possibly 🐱
tight garden
In circuit python, how do I access the TFT to draw/fill rectangles for a Hallowing?
stiff cedar
Hmmm, can someone help me figure out why some data from the gps library would be getting truncated? The latitude and longitude numbers I'm getting only have 4 decimal places instead of the 6 I'm expecting.
timber mango
The US Post Office delivered my Trellis M4 today (Saturday) from a Wednesday night purchase time (after the show) to Connecticut. I was surprised to see the package. ;)
stiff cedar
Here is my proof of concept code: https://gist.github.com/reportingsjr/078ec7ea81d0d8ee78f7da6b9e32412c
and here is the library function that is generating the data: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_GPS/blob/master/adafruit_gps.py#L53
that function takes in a value such as "3908.5481" and should return something like 39.1424683
instead all I'm having printed is 39.1425
OH! Circuitpython's floats are single precision, not double!!
Is there any way to use doubles in circuitpython?
steep moth
@solar whale did you ever get your TFT stuff working?
solar whale
For some boards, but I don’t have the information @tight garden is looking for. I did not do much with the Hallowing. It is supported by the new displayio module.
steep moth
Ah.
solar whale
It may work with adafruit_rgb_display as well. I have not tried.
tight garden
yes I can use the 4.0.0 alpha with display.io to display bitmaps. But I didn't see a way to draw/fill primitives like rectangles
solar whale
@tight garden the display is an st7735 so you may be able use https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_RGB_Display/blob/master/README.rst to draw primatives.
tight garden
@solar whale what is D2? I wasn't able to import it
let me try to make sure I have the updated libraries
got build_adafruit_circuitpython_bundle_4.x_mpy_20181102 libraries. Still fail to import D2
tight garden
I can work around that since I know D2 is 39. But running it gives me an error SCK in use
timber mango
props on the short nick aw ;)
slender iron
@tight garden displayio shapes are not supported yet
solar whale
@tight garden can you post the code you are running. Im not sure where D2 is imported.
tulip sleet
@stiff cedar Nope, no double precision, sorry. the single precision is 30-bits, not actually 32 (22 bits of mantissa) due to the way numbers are encoded in MicroPython/CircuitPython. This is about 6 digits of accuracy.
you could parse it yourself and split the numbers up, but that's a lot of work
tight garden
@slender iron wt thanks for the info. I hope it will be supported soon
I noticed circuitpython is slower than running Arduino. I suppose that's normal since C vs python. I noticed this when running neopixels code that does the rainbow wheel. The python code ran a lot slower.
slender iron
@tight garden yup, if you need execution speed use arduino. if you need development speed use circuitpython
tough flax
Just a thought on this Sunday evening - this channel is perhaps the most welcoming, helpful, useful place in all of tech right now. Heck, perhaps anywhere. Thank you all.
river quest
okee dokee one more #leek sorta for the night, we got circuitpython and bluefruit workin together, and i made another synth demo' (all made with #circuitpython-dev )
raven canopy
@river quest one of the best piano/synth lines in all of history! Trent is such a master...
sly wagon
Work in progress led display for a Black Panther Cosplay I’m working on, powered by circuit python 😃
onyx hinge
I didn't get to anything circuitpython this weekend, but did a heap of 3D printing and got an electronics project with python on a raspberry pi going so that was nice. too bad the weekend is practically over, back to real life tomorrow.
steep moth
This weekend went by really fast for me.
umbral dagger
I spent some time watching BlizzCon coverage and writing modules in C for CircuitPython.
Weekends go by fast, so do whole weeks.
steep moth
Very true.
slender iron
@umbral dagger what C modules?
slender iron
<@&356864093652516868> Here is the meeting notes doc for tomorrow: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wWPuqbIkO3v3ixij9Nh-RgBKz43yejuqcpTDMgjSd0o/edit?usp=sharing
manic glacierBOT
umbral dagger
@slender iron For a guide on doing so.
solar whale
@turbinenreiter#5911 take a look at https://github.com/Microsoft/uf2-samdx1/blob/master/README.md I also think there is adafruit fork but I’m on a plane about to land and can’t search now. Hopefully someone else online can help you get going.
tepid cape
👍 that worked!
manic glacierBOT
meager fog
@tidal kiln ahhh bmp is behind a big circuitpython travis build 😃
in abut 30 minutes when its done we can merge
tepid cape
quickly jotted down the flashing procedure before I forget again https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=142170&p=707151#p707151
meager fog
@tepid cape thanks we will add this to the uf2 guide page
tepid cape
Super-useful! I resurrected 3 boards I presumed dead. I wish I could tell you how I ruined them, tough. The chance that PlatformIO eats bootloaders is slim, right?
meager fog
its not so slim, sadly
we've heard more 'brickings' with platformio
altho we are not sure why - we dont use it 😦
the good news is once you lock the bootloader, it should never happen again
(not m4 bricking, but we did hear of some m0's from another company)
lock the bootloader by dragging the update uf2 on - its easier than doing it thru jlink
tepid cape
👍
tidal kiln
@meager fog bps for wavefile? looks like it's out of the oven now.
tidal kiln
ohhhh. too many pr's. cruising through and tweaking about half a dozen right now. 😃
meager fog
i saw zooooom
timber mango
I bricked a Feather M4 Express using atmel start. I thought it was a lost cause, as I could not find it in Jlink (but I have zero experience with jlink and gdb).
There was nothing special I remember about that particular event -- was deep in the middle of the development of the program (a forth interpreter). The PiUART CP2104 was connected at the time.
Forth most likely had a stack underflow which caused arbitrary execution of code -- that's my best guess. Did not brick during a flash update (I use the Arduino bossac to flash all my Atmel Start projects to MCU).
solar whale
@timber mango did you manage to “unbrick” it . The notes from @tepid cape should do it https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=142170&p=707151#p707151
timber mango
I could not get Segger Jlink EDU to recognize it, but the same setup works with the M0 feather, so maybe I had an intermittent. My assumption at the time was that the segger could not (in principle) communicate due to <foo> -- this (today's) conversation did two things: a) gave me confidence that I didn't do anything wrong by working in atmel start in this way and b) gave me hope to unbrick it.
I don't really care about unbricking it; I worked around it (moved onto Metro M4 Express for the time being). I care a LOT about a) and now I can move forward in a) with confidence. ;)
I tell people to put such matters into the junk drawer and address them on a snow day in February, which is probably where this ends up.
I do (presently) have a Feather M0 all ready to go with JLink, so I need to practice with that to get it deep in my bones, what is supposed to happen, so I won't waste time when I add the unknown of a bricked M4 to the mix. ;)
(Scott's tutorial there was invaluable to me)
solar whale
@slender iron I will be lurking today. On an airplane-spotty Wi-Fi. Group hug. Status- grandkids are fun!
slender iron
@timber mango I've been able to recover with an atmel edbg when a jlink fails
I made one by removing the samd21 from an arduino zero
timber mango
I do have a working Arduino M0 Pro with the EDBG stuff on it.
removal of samd21 is lots easier than installation. thanks!
slender iron
np
inland tusk
@slender iron tan I will be lurking today.
neat folio
hmmm thought I was an hour late...... 😉
gusty kiln
date math: hard.
timber mango
I am microphone-less but not exactly lurking.
idle owl
@pastel panther Will do 😃
pastel panther
😊
slender iron
🎉
idle owl
Library tracking issue: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/1246
errant grail
Group hug to the CircuitPython team and community. Fun to watch the progress on MIDI, USB, and audio mixer (multi-track!). Looking forward to updated support for displays. Amazing group effort with excellent leadership.
tidal kiln
@pastel panther woot!
pastel panther
🕺
timber mango
no mic
Impossible to put into words, but just a general appreciation of the boldness and uniqueness and new new new-ness of what I call (internal to my self) the Adafruit Culture.
pt is often in my thoughts, for what he brings to the public face of adafruit industries. ;)
solar whale
Plane landing—will catch up via recording. 👋
timber mango
(that's just plane great)
raven canopy
- @tannewt & @kattni for the merges
- @danh, @jerryn, and those who's names escape me, for support in discord this week.
- Group hug^2.
umbral dagger
Quick update: I'm currently working on a guide for extending CP by writing modules in C. Also, I'll be speaking about CP at PyCon Canada next weekend.
idle owl
@umbral dagger Added to the notes!
tidal kiln
oooo cool guide idea @umbral dagger
timber mango
not an illusion.
idle owl
🎉
neat folio
gratz!
timber mango
🔔
errant grail
Congratulations!
umbral dagger
@tidal kiln Limor's suggestion
gusty kiln
congrats @slender iron . :)
timber mango
🏈 go long
pastel panther
🎉
raven canopy
"Information Czar" is a similar term/idea... 🙂
errant grail
Distracted from CPy work – writing some basic analog electronics articles. Did have time to throw together a CV gesture controller using CPy, a Feather, and a ToF sensor. Had the prototype up and working in about 10 minutes! Simultaneous MIDI output is next. (CV is the term for Eurorack musical synthesizer Control Voltage – a universal way to control note pitch, filter characteristics, and just about everything else in the analog synth domain.)
For this week, I’ll be focusing on finishing the authoring tasks and the mechanical assembly of the UFO model for a local film group. I’m sure there will be a few more tweaks to the UFO’s CPy code, but will be able to do that with my tablet in the video studio.
neat folio
How am i ever going to learn Python when everyone keeps dangling these juicy carrots?
pastel panther
@umbral dagger I look forward to your c helper guide!
timber mango
New bare-metal port of Brad Rodriguez' CamelForth (using Atmel Start) for the Trellis M4 (SAMD51G19A).
Trellis M4 is crystal-less.
To get the clock oscillator going on Trellis M4, I used the 32k ultra low power clock.
This was the first time that the crystal oscillator (XOSC) specification, in the clocks section of the Atmel Start web GUI, was not used in a project of mine.
I had USB bidirectional connectivity (a text-based interpreter, running CamelForth) going on Trellis M4 in a matter of hours (just yesterday!) No Ringbuffer - it is a kludge. ;)
pastel panther
I AM ONLY ONE MAN
raven canopy
The Corporate Overlords are proud of your ascendence, @pastel panther. #GanntChartIt
pastel panther
we're leaving for the con next wednesday morning
raven canopy
FRAM Library: I2C merged; will update SPI branch with changes and put in PR later today.
Adabot:
- "Library needs release" validator merged. Along with an upgrade to the
requestsmodule to mitigate a CVE. - Run/cron on Travis is mostly working. Still tweaking the yaml.
This Week:
Adabot:
- work on library download stats
- get Travis run to a PRable state.
- Better & further implement
request.get(timeout=n), which documentation encourages to use in "production environments".
timber mango
I say "kwispy" now for QSPI ;)
be bolder - you cannot jump over a chasm in two successive leaps /aphorism
gusty kiln
that's an interesting notion - maybe the ones that're assigned to circuitpythonlibrarians?
raven canopy
feels additional adabot work creeping 😄
gusty kiln
i tend to see PRs eventually but not feel particularly qualified to review.
raven canopy
I've learned plenty from the less-than-stellar reviews I've done.
idle owl
pastel panther
@idle owl is a Guide swiss army knife
raven canopy
Blog up a "call to arms" on a regular basis?
timber mango
You can do a lot with screenshots to communicate difficult ideas on Discord
errant grail
... and if you hold a workshop like that, please record it for time-zone challenged learners.
raven canopy
Like the new lib list...
gusty kiln
yeah, i'd be happy to sit in on a live code review session periodically.
or something along those lines.
timber mango
a weeds without Muckies is more than one can stand .. 🎵
pastel panther
CP is the perfect "I wanna do this open source thing but I don't know a git from a refrigerator" project/community. Lots of small things to do and many very helpful people
tough flax
And people watch me adapt toys etc.
timber mango
Just because code isn't right doesn't mean it is wrong. ;)
raven canopy
Don't fear the "blame" button...
tough flax
FYI - I just saw that CP has 99 releases 😃 #100 will have my backport in it
neat folio
thanx all
pastel panther
@slender iron I'll totes give you my twitch prime sub
timber mango
you can also put up your own github and let someone more experienced look at what you wanted to do in a pull request
neat folio
I'll bring the enthusiasm
timber mango
bell and howell filmstrip ;)
pastel panther
Also just remember that git has REALLY GOOD memory and just about any mess-up can be reversed
tough flax
I think the only rare hardware I have is the sip/puff sensor (and I'm happy to test)
timber mango
PowerPoint style graphics can work, too
neat folio
"too many toys"
stuck elbow
No, sorry
errant grail
Thanks everyone. Excellent discussion.
raven canopy
Thanks everyone! Have a great day.
neat folio
woof
timber mango
@raven canopy I have a new green download arrow in the discord client.
pastel panther
ta ta all 👋
raven canopy
@timber mango hopefully it contains bug fixes, and not "features". 😂
slender iron
raven canopy
Gotta scoot. ttfn
gusty kiln
off a minute to get some lunch - later y'all.
errant grail
Time to head out. Need craft supplies and more heat shrink.
timber mango
beginners learn a lot in pairs of beginners, but you have to find two beginners and put them in the same place at the same time
eat as much as you want -- we'll make more. -Frito Lay
neat folio
it's fun(ny) where we can find "words of wisdom" 😃
everything can be an opportunity for education
hate to run off, but have to go develop a residential zone in Minecraft 😃 have fun all... looking forward to "coding more"
slender iron
<@&356864093652516868> Here are the recordings of today's meeting: diode.zone YouTube
tidal kiln
@slender iron yeah. merged. ok with me closing? :
https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/1303
slender iron
yup! of course
next time you can add "Fixes #1303" to the commit description and github will do is automatically for you
tidal kiln
ok. will try to remember. i thought it also triggered off being mentioned in the PR comments also?
slender iron
I don't thiiiiink so but I could be wrong
I think the first PR comment is used in the merge commit
raven canopy
@slender iron on adabot "separate stats", are you thinking all stats including the current core stats? or just bundle+pypi (that's what i was meaning)?
slender iron
whatever you want
warped pendant
Good night - i'm totally cheating - i'm trying to integrate accelerometer to play wav and also some lights getting error when i'm trying to merge 2 code.py like I'm calling the board twice or something - thanks for any help
they sent me over from projecthelp
tidal kiln
can you share your full code somehow?
tulip sleet
@slender iron https://include-what-you-use.org/ I thought when you mentioned this it was a google internal thing, but there it is for the world
slender iron
@tulip sleet its been public awhile. I just used it at google
tulip sleet
i misunderstood, but glad it's available
harsh rain
@meager fog you there??
slender iron
@harsh rain please don't ping specific people. ask your questions generally so anyone can help you
steep moth
Ladyada is usually really busy.
slender iron
@tulip sleet ya, its super handy
tidal kiln
@warped pendant sry - that question was for you - can you share your code?
warped pendant
one sec @tidal kiln
i'm trying to get it back to where i was it's the ValueError: Pin PA30 in use error - bbut now it's not working at all ugh.. one more min or so
tidal kiln
ok. np. just report back when you get back to the issue again.
sturdy furnace
@solar whale hey sorry I had to jump on to a different problem. I've removed the temp sesning and 87887........................................................
warped pendant
well that's where the issue was i was able to use the ears - circuit-playground-express-head-tilt-ears to merge in order to make it print but then it gave me an error and i think i undid too much - basically it was just this and i was trying math.fabs and such but i can get it to print just not play the wav b/c Pin PA30 in use (from in the top i think...)
If I add the play for the audio then it messes up but the print would work
audiofiles = ["recy1a1.wav", "recy2a2.wav", "recy3a2.wav", "recy4a2.wav"]
while True:
x, y, z = cpx.acceleration
print((x, y, z))
time.sleep(0.5)
if x < 0 :
print(("reycle"))
cpx.pixels[0] = (255, 0, 0)
cpx.pixels[9] = (255, 0, 0)
well it won't now - maybe just let me copy and paste more and try and figure out where i'm making the messup please don't laugh at my errors.
tidal kiln
they both work separately, right? it's just the attempt to merge them together where you're running into issues?
warped pendant
yes i was the
ValueError: Pin PA30 in use
like it was
from adafruit_circuitplayground.express import cpx
messing up
spkrenable = digitalio.DigitalInOut(board.SPEAKER_ENABLE)
spkrenable.direction = digitalio.Direction.OUTPUT
spkrenable.value = True
tidal kiln
and the board you are using is a CPX?
warped pendant
or also saying
import board
in the same thing
yes it's CPX
cause in the other functions it's saying
while True:
x, y, z = cpx.acceleration
and
cpx.pixels etc etc.
so i shouldn't put the import board and then the from adafruit_circuitplayground.express import cpx
at the same time
tidal kiln
maybe. what are the two codes you are trying to merge? sounds like one is:
https://learn.adafruit.com/circuit-playground-express-head-tilt-ears/code#the-code-4-5
what is the second?
warped pendant
yes head tilt ears because i was trying to find something to make a call from the accelerometer from the tutorial
# this is python
audiofiles = ["recy1a1.wav", "recy2a2.wav", "recy3a2.wav", "recy4a2.wav"]
while True:
x, y, z = cpx.acceleration
print((x, y, z))
time.sleep(0.5)
if x < 0 :
print(("reycle"))
cpx.pixels[0] = (255, 0, 0)
cpx.pixels[9] = (255, 0, 0)```
merging in (speaker etc.)
this is python
audiofiles = ["recy1b1.wav", "recy2bb2.wav", "recy3b2.wav", "recy4b2.wav"]
def play_file(filename):
print("Playing file: " + filename)
wave_file = open(filename, "rb")
with audioio.WaveFile(wave_file) as wave:
with audioio.AudioOut(board.A0) as audio:
audio.play(wave)
while audio.playing:
pass
print("Finished")
while True:
if touch1.value:
print("A1 touched!")
play_file(audiofiles[0])```
so trying to put in the
# this is python
play_file(audiofiles[0])```
after the
this is python
while True:
x, y, z = cpx.acceleration
print((x, y, z))
time.sleep(0.5)
if x < 0 :
print(("reycle"))
play_file(audiofiles[0])
it would print recycle (sorry for typo) but then not play the audiofile and the pin PA30 error and i think it was error on the play_file line as well
SORRY! i'm so confused@warped pendant read here real quick
https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline-
so you can markup your code
# like this
print("awesome")
can i edit that?
tidal kiln
also - you can go back and edit your previous posts with that markup
^^ yep
up arrow to edit last post. otherwise however mouse over to right side of a post until you see the 3 dots, which brings up a menu that has an "edit" option
solar whale
@sturdy furnace no problem - i know all about getting distracted 😉 Have you resolved you problems wit the CPX?
steep moth
I get distracted all the time. Hmm... I should go do some Circuit Python... Hmm... I should go do some Arduino.
sturdy furnace
@solar whale oops, that was sent prematurely. I'm debugging it now (no luck yet). Running through the stability and checking bootloaders etc.
I think the issue persists without the thermistor library. So it's something else. It seems one (with the 3.0.0rc bootloader) is stable, yet one with 3.0.3 is not... which is odd.
I'm seeing the error every second reboot on the failing ones, which might be telling?
Anyway, I'm doing a deep dive now. So will get back with my success or failure 👍
solar whale
@sturdy furnace good luck -- It'll be interesting to find out what your learn.
sturdy furnace
Thanks for your help, and more importantly your moral support 🙏
tidal kiln
looks like maybe the start/stop marks didn't line up correctly or something
^^ that becomes this:
here's a simple example:
# this is python
foo = 23
oh
tidal kiln
@warped pendant don't worry if you can't figure it out - don't want to diverge you from your original question
warped pendant
is that right? i need to know how to discord properly
Q: can you undo undo in MU ?
is there a key command?
i mean redo
slender iron
its usually ctrl-shift-z I think
steep moth
Wow @slender iron you guys really need more people to run the forums, wow, so many unanswered posts, that much be a lot of work.
slender iron
@steep moth It is a lot of work. How old are they?
steep moth
There are a bunch from just over the course of a few days.
slender iron
got an example?
steep moth
50 posts I think on the first page for unanswered posts since the beginning of November. https://forums.adafruit.com/search.php?search_id=unanswered
tidal kiln
@warped pendant markup looks better. i think you were on the right track with your issue. you are trying to import the adafruit_circuitplayground.express lib, but also access things directly - so that's conflicting with the cpx library's internal use of those items
stiff cedar
@tulip sleet, re: floating point precision. I did end up splitting up the number and printing out the separate parts for higher precision.
Now on to my next problem! 😃
Does the uart try to allocate a buffer the same size as the baudrate or something?
I'm trying to adjust baud rate on my adalogger M0 to 56700 and it is giving me a memory allocation failed error
slender iron
@steep moth kinda unfair to look at it that way because you aren't seeing what was answered. We do have systems in place to find those posts though
tidal kiln
@warped pendant you don't have to use the cpx library, in fact, that first example does not:
https://learn.adafruit.com/circuit-playground-express-head-tilt-ears/code
you can think of the cpx library as a wrapper library to make using the things on the CPX board easier - but you can use them directly, like the ears code is doing
steep moth
@slender iron True, I am still pretty new to the forums, still, that must be a lot of work, people have a lot of questions.
slender iron
ya, it is. Adafruit pays a number of folks to answer as many as they can
steep moth
It looks like the time is off on the forums, or it is a different time zone? Sorry that none of this is related to Circuit Python.
slender iron
ping me in a different channel and we can keep chatting about it
steep moth
Okay.
warped pendant
hey thank you @tidal kiln --- will try another day 😦 working and making light hapen, just no sound
tidal kiln
@warped pendant hopefully that helps / makes sense. it might also help to look at the code of the cpx library:
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_CircuitPlayground/blob/master/adafruit_circuitplayground/express.py
and you can see how it imports board and does things like configure the speaker enable pin:
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_CircuitPlayground/blob/master/adafruit_circuitplayground/express.py#L104
so if you also tried to do that after importing cpx, you would get that error about the pin already being used - because the cpx lib was using it
slender iron
anyone else seen spurious I2C pullup errors? https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=143209
steep moth
Hmm... Strange.
warped pendant
thanks so much @tidal kiln need to sleep on it and maybe just make my thing capacitive again for tomorrow - it's just a lot of rain so was trying to put it all in a ziplock. 😉
tidal kiln
@slender iron no. and reading that sounds like they might be beyond the pullup error and now it's something else. but they don't say what. just "It was working then stopped working".
it's not clear what the nature of it not working now is, but it sounds different.
@slender iron they are not updating val in the loop
slender iron
@tidal kiln ok, I'll wait for them to reply before responding
stiff cedar
@slender iron Do you know why if I was using the gps library and tried to change the baudrate after starting the gps I would get memory allocation errors?
tough flax
@slender iron - should I say yes about the i2c pullup errors? I mean, we had to add external resistor & cap, right?
raven canopy
in case anyone is wondering:
Adafruit_CircuitPython_Bundle downloads in the past week:
{
'adafruit-circuitpython-bundle-py': 67,
'adafruit-circuitpython-bundle-2.x-mpy': 61,
'adafruit-circuitpython-bundle-3.x-mpy': 335,
'adafruit-circuitpython-bundle-4.x-mpy': 131,
'adafruit-circuitpython-bundle-examples': 65
}
and the PyPi downloads winner for the last week should come as no surprise:
'Adafruit_CircuitPython_NeoPixel': 151
tidal kiln
@tulip sleet what's the effect of running the Metro M4 flash eraser UF2 on an Itsy M4?
https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=143286&p=707487#p707487
neon briar
I'm enjoying working with CircuitPython on the M4 Express ( https://www.adafruit.com/product/3857 ), but I'd love to be able to run Scala native ( http://www.scala-native.org ) on something like this sooner or later. The Scala native team is working on support for 32-bit ARM, but I'm hearing recommendations of "a few megabytes" of RAM for running it. Can anyone tell me if an M4 Express with more RAM is in the works? Who could I prod to make that happen? I'd be happen to test an early version with larger RAM capacity. 😃
slender iron
@neon briar Its not likely because the SAMD51 tops out at 256kb memory
@pastel panther sounds like usb is unhappy
is it a '51? clock setup may be wrong
neon briar
ok, thx @slender iron
glacial lichen
Hello 😃 I was wondering if it is possible to flash circuitpython on a fresh https://www.adafruit.com/product/3406 that comes with the arduino bootloader without using a programmer.....? Would very much appreciate some help please!
pastel panther
@slender iron It is a '51. does uf2-samd include some clock setup in the board config?
there is this
#define BOOT_GCLK_ID_CORE SERCOM0_GCLK_ID_CORE
#define BOOT_GCLK_ID_SLOW SERCOM0_GCLK_ID_SLOW
@glacial lichen it is possible but the support is very early still
pastel panther
and #define BOOT_USART_BUS_CLOCK_INDEX MCLK_APBAMASK_SERCOM0
slender iron
@pastel panther I think it just starts crystalless
glacial lichen
@slender iron I would need a little help with the bootloader stuff and programming. A buggy circuitpython would be okay and I am using the nordic sdk for work, just do nt have a programmer around at home
slender iron
did you load uf2 and a circuitpython build?
glacial lichen
have the page open
slender iron
@glacial lichen https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/ports/nrf/boards/feather_nrf52832/README.md
we're mainly focussed on the 840 though since it has usb
lone sandal
pastel panther
I can't get the bootloader to load the BLABLABOOT drive, so I haven't been able to load CP yet
I verified the copy of the bootloader onto the '51 with the JLink, so I'm pretty sure it's at least on there
slender iron
@pastel panther you can do it with jlink too
pastel panther
I have to give it an offset, right?
slender iron
@gusty kiln when you have a chance: https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=143138
@pastel panther through gdb I don't since the linker script encodes it
pastel panther
hmm. I've been using JLinkExe to load .bins but I can try gdb
tulip sleet
@tidal kiln I think the M4 erase bootloader doesn't aactually work. Not sure what the user is using.
tidal kiln
i think they are confusing bootloader with firmware and seeing the eraser as a cure-all
tulip sleet
the erase .uf2 probably doesn't work on the itsy because the QSPI pins may be different
tidal kiln
anyway it would mess up the bootloader?
slender iron
@pastel panther I like gdb because I can see how far the code gets after I start it
tulip sleet
the itsy m4's were shipped with an unprotected bootloader. It's possible, but I don't understand whether they no longer see ITSYM4BOOT or not
tidal kiln
as i understand it - they can get that ok
tulip sleet
they should just forget about using M4_erase.uf2 or something like that. get them away from that. I can build a special itsy m4 CPy .uf2 that erases CIRCUITPY
maybe they have a hard-crashing main.py
tidal kiln
yep. that was my general suggestion. pointed them to the itsy CP firmware, etc.
would a hard crashing main.py prevent REPL connect?
tulip sleet
possibly, I'm building a special UF2 now. Will upload it here shortly
pastel panther
@slender iron sorry to be that guy, but what is the gdb command to load a bin (or should it be the elf?)
tidal kiln
interesting - is a special UF2 the only way out then? since they can't see CIRCUITPY to rename or edit main.py
and can't connect to REPL
tulip sleet
occasionally - not exactly sure why. It should go into safe mode the next time, but it doesn't
tulip sleet
@tidal kiln have them load this, then load the regular 3.1.1.
tidal kiln
does that / can that set prot bit also? in case it's not set?
tulip sleet
no, for that, they should load this: https://github.com/adafruit/uf2-samdx1/releases/download/v2.0.0-adafruit.7/update-bootloader-itsybitsy_m4-v2.0.0-adafruit.7.uf2
pastel panther
@slender iron I should probably do a DEBUG=1 build, huh?
tulip sleet
maybe do that first, then the ERASE-CIRCUITPY, and finally regular 3.1.1.
wait at least 15 seconds for the update-bootloader to finish
the blinking light will change when it's done
slender iron
@pastel panther if you want to see where the code ends up
tidal kiln
@tough flax just in case you haven't seen this already. someone in the forums working on sip/puff:
https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=143209&p=707530#p707528
tulip sleet
@slender iron I cleaned out the bogus 3.1.0 release from AWS S3. I notice that none of the artifacts seem to be older than about last May. Did you clean up the S3 buckets at some point in the past?
slender iron
ya, I did
tulip sleet
ok, maybe i'll do another one with the builds with dates, from say September and earlier. aws s3 cli is kinda terrible, but I got it to do what I want
slender iron
k thats fine. don't delete tags though
pastel panther
@slender iron , it looks like it's getting to the main loop at main.c:220 on
so it's at least running?
slender iron
yup, sounds like a usb issue
tulip sleet
no just PR builds, etc.
slender iron
kk
pastel panther
I'm going to look at it with the microscope and the maybe try reflowing or replacing the socket?
if you have any tips for things to look for other than continuity or shorts, that would be much appreciated
idle owl
@tidal kiln can you review a PyPI setup for me? Brennen's Pi deep in a Raspberry. https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_BluefruitSPI/pull/5
slender iron
@pastel panther thats where I would start
tidal kiln
@idle owl review or test? i don't have the hw.