cool yeah I'd def like to follow that repository
#circuitpython-dev
indigo wedge
@solar whale, i have not tested SPI on the pca10056, some of the pins cannot be used because they are already used by the DK, but I think PB10-PB15 are fine to use
idle owl
@uneven yarrow Here's the one that will end up in the bundle, but it's obviously not ready yet. https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Trellis I'm still trying to find the one in progress. I thought I had the link.
solar whale
@indigo wedge FYI - I was able to get a 2.4" TFT- featherwing (ILI9431) and its sdcard working on the feather 52.
indigo wedge
nice, did you use the rgb display lib?
solar whale
@indigo wedge yes - it paint the screen pretty slowly! - otherwise I was just doing some slow bitmapfont so it was fine.
idle owl
@uneven yarrow Ah here we go. Like I said, though, remember it's in progress. https://github.com/sommersoft/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Trellis
uneven yarrow
awesome thanks @idle owl ๐ Yep, I'll def keep in mind that it's a work in progress. it will be cool to see it take shape
thanks for the links!
idle owl
You're welcome!
solar whale
@indigo wedge I tried moving CS to PB13 - so using PB10-13 but still no luck - time to hook up the logic analyzer....
indigo wedge
cool, let me know how it goes, i want to get SPI working on the DK ๐
solar whale
sure - it'll take some time since I have to reoragnize my connections. tis is my first time tryin SPI on it as well. Nice to see it worked on the feather52 board.
indigo wedge
yes, so we know the implementation in the port is fine, maybe just the board files are misconfigured
raven canopy
@uneven yarrow it is working. on a trinket, you'll definitely have to mpy-cross it. won't fit otherwise. still working out some bugs on the PR to include it in the bundle. but, that's all related to documentation/non-code parts.
solar whale
It was nice to beable to put the RGB display library on the SDCad since the onboard FS is pretty small. only about 80K available.
@indigo wedge Is tahte any reson not to make the FS larger on the pca10056. It has lots more flash, correct?
indigo wedge
yeah, I just made it match the feather one, but it could be way bigger i think, there is lots of flash available
idle owl
@sommersoft#0222 That's what I thought, but I wasn't certain.
raven canopy
@uneven yarrow and please, let me know if it doesn't work. actually, scratch that....let me know ANY feedback you have (function names suck, it's overly complicated, etc)
solar whale
Is it just changing the values in the .ld file?
indigo wedge
yes, i believe so
solar whale
OK - I'll give it a try.
idle owl
@sommersoft#0222 Didn't want to hand it over with the wrong expectation so I erred on the side of beta ๐
raven canopy
hehe. it's all good. just cause it worked on my desk...doesn't mean its past beta. ๐
solar whale
@indigo wedge I increased the FS to 0x40000 (256K) and it seems to be happy
indigo wedge
That ought to be enough for anybody ๐
solar whale
>>>
>>>
>>> import os
>>> os.statvfs('/')
(4096, 4096, 59, 58, 58, 0, 0, 0, 0, 255)
>>>
``` the Circuitpython Bundle will use that up fast!@idle owl Shoudl the adafruit_sht31 library be added to the bundle at this time of do you want the docs all updated first?
idle owl
@solar whale I think it can be added to the bundle. The plan is eventually to have documentation in everything first. But we're not quite there yet. So if you want to get it into the bundle now, that's fine.
solar whale
How do we do that?
idle owl
Make a PR to the bundle but I'm only half clear on how to do that.
Getting some more info though ๐
You have to update .gitmodules and something else. It's the something else I'm not sure about.
tidal kiln
yah, basically just PR the bundle repo. see the bundle repo's readme. so fork it, do what it says there to add in the bundle, and then PR that back.
but then you also need to do a relase on the actual library repo (the one being added to the bundle) for the automated process to actually bring it in
idle owl
A new release? Or is the current release valid.
tidal kiln
that i don't know. haven't gone through it enough to know what sequences work / don't work.
but as an example for one i did. here's the PR:
idle owl
I'm going to assume you need a new release.
tidal kiln
and here the release:
idle owl
So we'll do that once it's done.
raven canopy
lol. now i can't remember...and i did it like a week ago. ๐
solar whale
@idle owl @tidal kiln thanks - I'm glad I asked ๐ I'll look at the instructions and get a PR going - then we can see about the release. No rush on this - I was just curious.
@raven canopy thanks to you, too!
idle owl
@solar whale No problem. Just let me know if you have questions, and we'll get it sorted. I'm around today.
solar whale
I'm trying ot get my Salea hooked up now for another issue so I'm deep in that...
idle owl
That also works ๐
tidal kiln
if it doesn't work, travis will gripe, that's how i knew i forgot to do a release
solar whale
and when travis isn't happy, nobody is happy.
tidal kiln
lint is happy, cause then it's not the only one taking flack
@solar whale do you feel like the code is done and functional and ready to be brought in?
(wrt to the sht31 library)
idle owl
It is. It needs RTD/Sphinx docs added, but it's set otherwise.
solar whale
@tidal kiln yes - the basic function is OK - at this point I just need to work on the ReadTheDocs stuff
tidal kiln
it's this repo?
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_SHT31D
idle owl
Yes
solar whale
@indigo wedge My first capture shows tath CS is alive but MISO,MOSI and SCK are all flat.... at least I have something to look for.
tidal kiln
i'd say go ahead and add it to the bundle, that way it'll be wired in, you can continue to update the library and whenever you do a new release, that will trigger the updates to be added to the bundle
you won't need to do anymore PR'ing to the bundle repo
idle owl
That was my thought as well.
solar whale
@tidal kiln Thanks - I try creating a PR later - once I finshing breaking my current project ๐
tidal kiln
doc updates, bug fixes, new features, etc... that's how to roll all them in (via a release)
idle owl
I'm evidenty trying to write a state machine in CircuitPython.
I say evidently because that appears to be the solution to what I'm trying to do. But I'm entirely fuzzy on the concept.
tidal kiln
what're you trying to do?
idle owl
I have a CPX. it is currently sitting flat facing up. I want to be able to rotate it 90 degrees to the right, hold it there for 3 seconds and have that work as an input. Once. Then require returning it to flat state for at least 3 seconds before I can rotate it to signal the input again.
tidal kiln
rotate it along X or Y axis?
idle owl
X. Y stays ~0 when I rotate it. X and Z change
tidal kiln
sounds like rotation around Y, but doesn't matter too much, problem is generally same for rotation around X or Y
idle owl
no... not at all. But the rest of the code already exists. It's all light changes on a CPX using multiple inputs
I was going to try to get this working separately and then add it to the rest
the rest uses shake and double-tap to change brightness and color/animation respectively.
I'm using generators for the rainbow animation and the color sequence so other inputs can be done while maintaining the state
I think I'm going to take the on/off state away from shake and give it to the rotation input
or one of the rotation inputs
tidal kiln
so, all in one code: various forms of input -> various light changes
idle owl
yes.
tidal kiln
is this for a guide?
raven canopy
gotta gist of it?
idle owl
not yet no
raven canopy
(that was a selfish question. i need a break from reading circuitpython/py/*) ๐
tidal kiln
what are you thinking in terms of the mission (can't think of better word) for the guide? like what are you trying to teach with it?
just show something fun with cp?
idle owl
this is some of the best code I've ever written, definitely in my favorites.
It's meant to be "hey I've got a lamp sitting around not doing anything, what can I do with it with CircuitPython and this CPX?" I have another one that's going to have similar functionality, but use IR for the input instead.
tidal kiln
asking because i think there are various ways of writing that code, state machine being one, and it could pretty much be an entire guide about those various approaches
idle owl
It'll have the explanation for why we're sticking with motion for the little lamp: nothing else works. Touch fails, sound doesn't get through, copper tape doesn't stick to it to make touch work in some way, etc.
raven canopy
will it always evaluate to this: if Y == 0 and X > 0 or Z > 0: change light? obviously, zero would be padded to account for resting drift/resolution.
and yes, that eval statement won't work well enough...just idea vomit.
tidal kiln
the 3 secs bit is the tricky part
idle owl
As far as I understand things, I want a state machine. Create a global variable that represents the state I'm in, progress between the different states I'm looking for.
stuck elbow
and binds stronger than or
stuck elbow
so this is if (Y == 0 and X > 0) or Z > 0:
tidal kiln
that's the even more tricky part
stuck elbow
not sure it's what you mean
raven canopy
yeah, non-blocking will be what trips it up. @stuck elbow i was actually thinking more like Y == 0 and (X > 0 or Y > 0) but was too lazy to work through the binding. ๐
idle owl
@sommersoft#0222 Here: https://gist.github.com/kattni/6cb5f9cc445272375f7016ccad26e404 That's the code as it is now.
Don't know why I can't tag you successfully today.
tidal kiln
@idle owl this sounds like a really good project that is trying to do multiple things at once, and could serve as a good guide for how to go about doing that in CP
idle owl
@tidal kiln Yeah and I've been asked about that before as well.
raven canopy
yay! new! ๐ and I don't know why your @vernal fern's aren't working either. we can blame my discord...usually the case.
tidal kiln
@idle owl there's a great set of arduino guides that do a similar thing:
https://learn.adafruit.com/multi-tasking-the-arduino-part-1/overview
https://learn.adafruit.com/multi-tasking-the-arduino-part-2/overview
https://learn.adafruit.com/multi-tasking-the-arduino-part-3/overview
not all of that can translate to CP, for example interrupts
idle owl
Right
tidal kiln
but a guide that is essentially a CP version of those could be cool
idle owl
Agreed
raven canopy
it seems to me that you should count time instead of time.sleep. same way its done in arduino with delay() avoidance.
which, is where you were talking about time.monotonic, right?
tidal kiln
without interrupts, yes, it's going to come down to crafty use of time.monotonic
indigo wedge
@solar whale i believe i found the problem (but not tested)
if you see here https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/ports/nrf/common-hal/busio/SPI.c#L58 you'll notice the pins are assigned but not the ports, so you should add something similar to this https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/ports/nrf/hal/hal_uart.c#L125 except using these defines: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/ports/nrf/device/nrf52/nrf52840_bitfields.h#L10635
raven canopy
totally started typing out example code...going to be too long. i'll put it as a comment on the gist.
indigo wedge
this explains why it works on the feather52 cause that one has only one port so no need to set the port to 1, but you were using PBx so port 1
raven canopy
what was the lag time on time.monotonic() i vaguely remember a discussion about it at some point. may have been in the issues...
idle owl
If it's anywhere, it's in issues. I'm not sure, I've never tested it personally.
solar whale
@indigo wedge Thanks! I'll follow up on that!
idle owl
@sommersoft#0222 Nice, thanks for the suggestion! We'd come to a basic version of that. Yours gets fancier. I'm working through getting more towards your point.
idle owl
That is coincidental timing. I seriously just had nearly this conversation ^^
solar whale
@indigo wedge Sorry - I'm not seeing exactly what I need to do. Isn't that being done here already? https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/ports/nrf/hal/hal_spi.c#L60
raven canopy
@idle owl np for the suggestion. that technique opened a whole new world for me in Arduino. but, it can get quite daunting on large programs. so many intervals to keep track of! blocking is sooo much easier. ๐ and, for your purpose, using epoch time would be needless overhead imo...but it can be easier for a beginner to understand (kind of).
idle owl
epoch time isn't built into CircuitPython. So monotonic is what we have.
raven canopy
yeah, i as referring to the reference (huh?) to the time.gmtime.
idle owl
I'm currently reading an Arduino guide to try to get a better idea on how this works. It's mostly helping ๐ I'm totally new to Arduino. Will be fixing that starting this week, as it happens
Oh, ok... I didn't know what gmtime did. I thought time.time was epoch
indigo wedge
@solar whale it looks like hal/hal_spi.c is used by the machine.SPI class and busio uses common-hal/busio/SPI.c, which is kinda strange, but it's the busio driver that the rgb display lib uses so you need to add the code to common-hal/busio/SPI.c
solar whale
@indigo wedge 0k - thanks - I'll admit I do get lost trying to follow the various paths. I'll give it a shot.
indigo wedge
Yeah, I'm new to this codebase so trying to wrap my head around it too
indigo wedge
i know machine is more of a MP thing and now circuitpython uses busio, so does that mean machine is deprecated? Cause if it is then some of the hal/ code could be removed since it duplicates the common-hal code
solar whale
@indigo wedge Hopefully @slender iron or @tulip sleet can comment on deprecating machine.
indigo wedge
are they in Europe or in the US?
solar whale
they are in US both coasts ๐
raven canopy
machine is not completely deprecated. well, it's only current use is on ESP8266
indigo wedge
Ah, too bad discord doesn't show user's local time like slack
solar whale
@raven canopy yes, so I'm not sure how it should be treated on the nrf52's
indigo wedge
right now it's not available in the nrf port but i think there is functionality that only machine offers, even as simple as soft_reset(), I might be wrong though
solar whale
that is the confusion for me - it is not compiled in as a module, but I'm not sure ifa any of the code is "in use"
solar whale
I am going to have to put this off until tomorrow - @indigo wedge thanks for the guidance. It does not look like a fundamental problem.
raven canopy
current makefile shows machine being compiled... https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/7c6adaa661aa066aca27457b966f5168189186c5/ports/nrf/Makefile#L163
indigo wedge
yes, especially since it works on the feather, probably just some nrf52840 specific thing
solar whale
@indigo wedge where are you located - I am in US - New Hampshire.
raven canopy
i apologize if i'm coming late to the convo and re-hashing....
indigo wedge
@solar whale I'm in Sweden ๐
raven canopy
i'm about to jump off anyway too. not sure why i'm going to watch the super bowl...they can't both lose. ๐
idle owl
@indigo wedge You'll be more likely to cross paths with Scott and Dan during the week then. All of us try to be around throughout the day so we can try to get to everyone.
solar whale
@indigo wedge Nice! - I have several friends in Stockholm - at work we have been colaborating with folks at (KTH - Royal Institute) for many years.
indigo wedge
@raven canopy you're right, it's defined as enabled in mpconfigport.h
i got confused cause @slender iron mentioned wanting to disable it
solar whale
@raven canopy I'm about to do the same -- too close to Boston to sit it out ๐
raven canopy
definitely possible. it's mostly about how much they want to stay inline with upstream, i think.
indigo wedge
It's midnight here so gonna sign off soon as well, but will lurk more from work tomorrow and then continue the conversation after work ๐
solar whale
note - import machine does not work on nrf52
raven canopy
WAIT A SECOND!!! I'M PURPLE!! (and of course discord picks now to disable server emoticons...no blinka) 
there she is!
indigo wedge
@solar whale right! cause it's not added here https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/7c6adaa661aa066aca27457b966f5168189186c5/ports/nrf/mpconfigport.h#L261
so I wasn't crazy ๐
solar whale
@indigo wedge whew! me either -- good night/ eveing all
idle owl
Later, all of you ๐
indigo wedge
yes, enjoy your superb owls and all that
idle owl
The owls are lovely. It's true!
slender iron
@indigo wedge I think I just missed you
indigo wedge
still here
slender iron
I'd love to deprecate machine in circuitpython
its not well defined so I'd rather replace it with APIs defined in shared-bindings
indigo wedge
i see, so if there are SPI classes in both machine and busio in the nrf port then the machine one could be removed?
slender iron
yup
if we ever support stm then I think we'd leave machine like we have on esp8266
but since nrf52 isn't in upstream yet I think we could set precedence to not have it
indigo wedge
nice, i could look into what is duplicated in machine and remove, that way we would also get a list of what APIs are missing in shared-bindings, if that's ok
slender iron
@indigo wedge I don't think there is much missing. We have 60+ libraries already built on top of our own APIs. Its just a question of whether they are all enabled on the nrf52
there is an existing issue for soft_reset() https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/184
(We call it reload so its not confused with pressing a reset button.
indigo wedge
i see
i find it confusing that the ports seem to share some modules and some code but are still very much their own things with many inconsistencies between ports
like, it looks like most ports have their own main.c but the nrf uses the main.c in the root directory of the repo
slender iron
@indigo wedge yup, shared main.c is the future
indigo wedge
ah, so nrf is paving the way? ๐
slender iron
in circuitpython anything besides esp, samd and nrf52 are basically ignored
and esp isn't on shared main yet
yeah, totally
the more we share, the better. but its a work in progress
indigo wedge
i see
and yeah, i agree, the more is shared, the easier it is to make new ports also
consistency is ๐
indigo wedge
yes I want to help but need to learn more about the whole project to see where I can help, also working on my own board with nrf so want to polish that one
slender iron
awesome! I'm happy to coordinate a time to video chat too if you like
I try my best to disconnect on weekends though
indigo wedge
i only can do this in my free time so weekends and afternoons ๐
slender iron
I'm flexible so I can do weekends if thats what works
just gotta know ahead of time
indigo wedge
not sure if i have enough material for a video chat but I'll keep posting here ๐
idle owl
later @slender iron
slender iron
<@&356864093652516868> Normal time for our meeting tomorrow (Monday). 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern here on Discord.
bye @idle owl
timber mango
LEEKS!!!
slender iron
@raven canopy I think your rogue any reference is from here: https://github.com/sommersoft/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Trellis/blob/master/adafruit_trellis/trellis.py#L23
raven canopy
@slender iron you were exactly correct. Now passing Travis after a few more hiccups. getting late, so I'll finish it up tomorrow.
raven canopy
g'nite. ๐ค
brazen cave
Are there any cp examples of programming a trinket as a hid?
half sedge
I am currious about "pIRKey"... Is there something this can do and that cannot be done with CPX?
stuck elbow
I don't think so
well, ok, actually there is something cpx can't do and pirkey can
fit in your mouth
(or your computer's usb port)
half sedge
Maybe a few exposed GPIO would have been fun. Here it is BlinkStick + Flirc.
Or more like "+ IRKey".
Actually seems to be a few mm smaller.
half sedge
That would be the reset button and some things to go from 5V to 3V I guess...
indigo wedge
For some reason the pdf version of the documentation says MP: https://media.readthedocs.org/pdf/circuitpython/latest/circuitpython.pdf
But I am ready to learn now ๐
stuck elbow
ah, it's because the sphinx settings for latex are not updated
indigo wedge
right, looks like this needs updating https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/docs/templates/topindex.html
indigo wedge
ah
solar whale
@indigo wedge SPI is working on the PCA10056 - I can mount an SD Card!! I made teh following change .. ```diff --git a/ports/nrf/common-hal/busio/SPI.c b/ports/nrf/common-hal/busio/SPI.c
index efce356..a773774 100644
--- a/ports/nrf/common-hal/busio/SPI.c
+++ b/ports/nrf/common-hal/busio/SPI.c
@@ -55,9 +55,22 @@ void common_hal_busio_spi_construct(busio_spi_obj_t *self, const mcu_pin_obj_t *
// 1 for I2C, 0 for SPI
self->spi = NRF_SPI0;
+#if NRF51
self->spi->PSELSCK = clock->pin;
self->spi->PSELMOSI = mosi->pin;
self->spi->PSELMISO = miso->pin;
+#else
- self->spi->PSEL.SCK = clock->pin;
- self->spi->PSEL.MOSI = mosi->pin;
- self->spi->PSEL.MISO = miso->pin;
+#if NRF52840_XXAA
- self->spi->PSEL.SCK |= (clock->port << SPI_PSEL_SCK_PORT_Pos);
- self->spi->PSEL.MOSI |= (mosi->port << SPI_PSEL_MOSI_PORT_Pos);
- self->spi->PSEL.MISO |= (miso->port << SPI_PSEL_MISO_PORT_Pos);
+#endif
+#endif
}
bool common_hal_busio_spi_deinited(busio_spi_obj_t *self) {
~
Here is the whole file
manic glacierBOT
solar whale
@indigo wedge I think there is one error in my fix - either I should remove the if NRF51 block or add a similar one to the deinit section. I think it is neeed for the NRF52840 so I'll add it so the de-init works properly for the non NRF51 cases.
solar whale
@indigo wedge simplified it - this work s on both the pca10056 and feather52 - let me know if you see any problems with it.
indigo wedge
i think you can use PSELSCK and so on for both nrf51 and nrf52 because there is a compatibility file that will just replace PSELSCK with PSEL.SCK https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/ports/nrf/device/nrf52/nrf51_to_nrf52.h#L92
solar whale
yes - I finally saw that and that is how the second version works.
solar whale
@indigo wedge I now have the tftdisplay and sdcard working on the pca10056 - -thanks for the guidance.
solar whale
since you re making many mods, do you want to put in the ultimate fix for the SPI.c or do you want me to generate a PR for it?
indigo wedge
I'm good either way, either you do one, don't think it has to be on top of my nrf52840 changes or i add it to my PR
solar whale
I think it will be cleaner for you to just add it if it is not too much trouble.
indigo wedge
cool, I'll do it in the afternoon
solar whale
Thanks! Hopefully, I did it correctly in the second version I posted, but you may have a better way.
solar whale
@meager fog I was playing with a TFT Featherwing https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-2-4-tft-touch-screen-featherwing?view=all#tft-control-pins attached to a fearher52 https://learn.adafruit.com/bluefruit-nrf52-feather-learning-guide?view=all but I noticed the warning not to use pin 31 since it is used for the battery monitor. Would it even work? It looks like the TFT_CS would be feeding into the VBAT. I used a different pin for the TFT_CS and it all worked fine, but I did not try using it in the default configuration. If the default configuration is to be avoided, perhaps a note should be added to the tff guide warning that the TFT_CS pin has to be moved. It says you "can" move it, but for the nrf52 is it a "must move it"?
timber mango
@solar whale you dont have to move it, in fact for outputs, it doesnt matter at all
i've updated the text
solar whale
Ok - good to know - thanks!
@meager fog I plugged the tft into the feather_nrf52 with defaut pinouts and it works just fine! Thanks for clarifying it.
BTW - this is all with Circuitpython 3.0 !
tawny creek
@solar whale CP on the nRF52 bluefruit :O!?
solar whale
@tawny creek yes!
tawny creek
@solar whale is it easy to switch between firmwares?
solar whale
Easy is a relative term ๐ see https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/tree/master/ports/nrf/boards/feather52 for details. It takes a bit of effort, but it works.
do you have the featherwing nrf52 ort the "pro" version?
the both work woth CP but the "pro" also has a J-link connector installed so that is an option.
I aslo added the J-Link connector to my "standard" nrf52 feather and it works well, but I have used the "dfu-flash" option as well.
solar whale
@tawny creek - I assume you are referring ot going back and forth between CP and arduino on the feather52. I'm not sure I have ever tried going back to arduino on mine but I don't think it is a problem as long as yo use the dfu-bootloader. If you use a J-Link, yo uhave to reload the bootloader to go back - but that is easy to do. - I think @raven canopy and @idle owl have put CP on the feather52 as well. Perhaps they can also commment on the "ease" of switching
manic glacierBOT
umbral dagger
I won't be on the call.. didn't do anything with CP this past week. It's all be CircutiPlayground biscuits & fighting with A/V equipment & software.
tulip sleet
hi folks - we're running a little late and will be in the chat shortly
timber lion
the gang is all here ๐
solar whale
teacher is late....
tidal kiln
5 minutes. that means it's a walk, right?
slender iron
having important private convo ๐
timber lion
can it stop and resume after? we're all ready to go
tulip sleet
last few sentences
slender iron
<@&356864093652516868> meeting is starting!
cunning crypt
Hug Report: Group hug to everyone, and going to echo @indigo wedge for the NRF stuff. Looks really cool!
(Also, maybe Arturo should get put in with CircuitPython Helpers?)
indigo wedge
oh gosh, thank you
idle owl
@indigo wedge You've been rocking it!
timber lion
ah bummer yeah it's still not working ๐ฆ
raven canopy
Just a group hug. And Travis... he's picky, but makes my code better.
opal elk
also, I'm sickafoos today ๐ฆ
indigo wedge
I'm not sure what those are, I'm new here ๐
Ah I see, big thanks to @solar whale for testing the nRF52840 stuff and for @slender iron for being so cool to a oblivious newcomer ๐
stuck elbow
scanning does writes, not all devices support writes
(but even more devices don't support reads)
timber lion
yeah totally, it's either that or something else.. i still can't get it to ack a simple read too, but i need to mess with using its reset line before saying for sure it's having problems
cunning crypt
Status: Haven't been working on CP stuff. My 3D printer is currently exploded, so that's my project at the moment as I'm upgrading to a dual extruder setup.
Exploded as in disassembled
timber mango
heyyy im here! was in a meating ๐
idle owl
@timber mango Hey, welcome!
timber mango
i gots heckin' LEEKS
cunning crypt
Leeks!
timber mango
ROCK IT DAN!
indigo wedge
Since I'm new to CP I want to look more into the code, I printed the docs so I can go through them and see the modules that you offer then I want to see which ones are implemented and which are missing in the nRF port and see what I can do to help there. Can also see which functionality is duplicated by the machine module and could remove that code to keep the code cleaner.
stuck elbow
UART is the worst
timber mango
yeah but python uart is >>> arduino uart
software serial is ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ
i know because i wrote the software serial lib like in 2007
stuck elbow
it's one of those things everybody should write once, just to feel the pain, and then switch to a better library
to better appreciate it
cunning crypt
In reference to CP and strings: Circuit Python handles strings. Arduino... you have to smash it into submission to do anything with strings.
stuck elbow
well, it has String, if you don't care about memory
timber mango
no more BUFSIZ. down with BUFSIZ!
STMPE hasnt been done yet and im just lazy ๐
if you wanna do it!
please do
i did the FocalTouch (captouch) version
i have hints on how to do STMPE
will dooo!
(thumbsup) STMPE has some 'unusual' SPI needs
yes!
sorry no mic
I tested out my pIRKey prototypes
they work great! i submitted a PR for support
(shrug)
๐
tulip sleet
"perky"
stuck elbow
porky
opaque patrol
purrkey
timber mango
its a generaly purpose Infrared -> HID USB plugin
we used to sell it! but it was very hard to use
idle owl
"peerkey" ?
timber mango
opal elk
idle owl
or apparently pronounce it "shrug" ๐
timber mango
its great for multimedia installs and accessability
that is in 2.2.2
ALSO today we're fabbing the itsybitsy m0 express!
opaque patrol
pyre key
sick creek
IR is nice
timber mango
right now actually, cachunk!
great silkscreen by philb - look for that in the shop by wednesday
super hot 340 *C
cunning crypt
I say we should call the pIRKey a "Purr-key" and put it in a cat-shaped case.
timber mango
im also thinking about how to do FONA library support
but will wait for UART in M4 because its very annoying
and needs a lot of RAM for debugging
however, FONA can do data so you could use it for internet as well as cellular/SMS
nothin' else ๐
cunning crypt
I've definitely kept my eye on FONA since building a smartphone would be a cool project.
timber mango
yes! we are making 250
tidal kiln
ahhhh, ballard noises.....
cunning crypt
Yay stickers!
raven canopy
Trellis is ready for bundle; PR coming tonight. Started on USB/REPL connection status issue. USB has a plan. REPL is being particularly obstinate...
opal elk
I've been on twice! just need to be home at 7:30 now
idle owl
@opal elk Ping me when you're ready for a review on the LIS3DH stuff, or if you would like someone to look at it sooner.
timber mango
that code is on the Tester
opal elk
@idle owl will do!
timber mango
yah i have a zip of it on the learn guide
if its out of date let me know!
tony, do you mean -> 3.0?
opal elk
honestly I'm stuck on connecting to serial via my rpi. I know there's boot stuff I have to change, and I swear I did it all, but I should just bring it up to my laptop and use putty
stuck elbow
.cp2 .cp3
timber mango
yah we definitely know the Weird chips
clock stretch chips, repeated-start chips
the TFT featherwing tests a lot i use that for testing a wide range of 'types' of interfaces
tony, please make an issue for the drivers to check
we'll test against the guides ๐
tidal kiln
@opal elk try adding enable_uart=1 to config.txt
opal elk
@tidal kiln I've tried that, but I will again
stuck elbow
we should have adafruit_io library
timber mango
i know someone had a umqtt success report on the micropython forum
lemme find it
oh nvmd, they never used umqtt in the end
its a good idea!
raven canopy
Yeah. Old school file method. I was thinking that...
idle owl
Later @stuck elbow, have a good one
timber mango
we have a page
(shrug)
๐
thats where i put "what you can expect"
e.g. what works, what does not
yah but kattni and i are oging to mirror it over
its ON THE GREAT CIRPY LEARN GUIDE UNIFICATION OF 2018
idle owl
YES
timber mango
YES!!
@idle owl do you want to open an issue on github - to get this page filled out
idle owl
@timber mango sure!
timber mango
add IRQ, other common Qs
raven canopy
Where is that Running Man gif when you need it? "YES!!!"
manic glacierBOT
timber mango
IRQ vs GC is funnnn
slender iron
timber mango
thanks everyone!
idle owl
Thank you everyone!
raven canopy
Thanks Folks. Go Forth and !!
timber mango
@idle owl we may want to merge w https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-gemma-m0/circuitpython-built-ins
indigo wedge
Thanks, this was really cool! I was one of the people interested in IRQs, so it's good to see this was mentioned and what the solution is (pulseio), need to do some reading ๐
idle owl
@timber mango yah I could see that
raven canopy
Phone dieing... I'm out. Later taters.
slender iron
bye @raven canopy !
solar whale
bya all - thanks!
sick creek
with that irDaKey I got idea for some project
heavy galleon
Hey I got a quick question for you circuit pythoners. How come if I do a while True for a button.value the program loops like its supposed to but if I change it to while false my program does not loop?
if button.value:
print("Button pressed")
time.sleep(.5)
else:
print("Butto not pressed")
time.sleep(.5)```Shouldnt that work either way true or false keep looping??
idle owl
I think you'd need python while True: if not button.value: print("not button")Or something like that.
heavy galleon
MMmmmm I see let me try
yes thats strange I didnt know I would have to do it that way works great like that
Thanks
idle owl
@heavy galleon while loops while it's argument is true, so True means forever and False means never.
So you negate what you're trying to make false within the loop instead of as the loop.
heavy galleon
Ok makes sense, I have a pull up button so I had to reverse that logic somewhere. Kinda happy I had the problem so I know how to keep a while loop for a false statement
solar whale
@idle owl @tidal kiln I "think" I created a PR to add the sht31 driver to the Bundle. Let me know if I did anything wrong. At least I got it by travis ๐
Looking for some guidance from other CP contributors. Once you have a PR merged, do you maintain your forked version of the repo or do you delete the fork? Is deleting the fork considered bad practice? I know github makes you take full responsibility for it ๐ It's a bit cumbersome to keep all the forks synchronized if you are not making frequent updates. Just curious how others deal with this.
tidal kiln
@solar whale yep. it's there:
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_Bundle/pull/64
tulip sleet
@solar whale don't delete the fork, but you can delete the branch you used for the bugfix/feature-add
I have one fork but many branches
most branches get deleted after they're merged into the main line.
solar whale
@tulip sleet Thanks - Thats what I have been doing. So to sync your fork, you just periodically do a local pull then push back to github?
tidal kiln
@solar whale merged
solar whale
@tidal kiln thanks - do I have to do a new release?
tidal kiln
@tulip sleet any issues with deleting the fork? i kind of just fork->mod->pr->delete
tulip sleet
My fork has the remote named "origin" pointing to dhalbert/whatever_repo), and a remote named "adafruit" (canonical name is "upstream") pointing to adafruit/whatever_repo. I do git fetch adafruit; git checkout master; git merge adafruit/master to bring it up to date with upstream. Then I do git push to keep my GitHub fork repo up to date.
@tidal kiln - no issue, but no need either.
tidal kiln
i'm lazy i guess. too lazy to make branch, have multiple remotes, do all the fetch syning, etc.
tulip sleet
Scott and I use branches where you are using forks. You'll see in our PR's we might want to merge dhalbert:issue_123_fix_spi with adafruit:master.
@tidal kiln for tiny repos not an issue, for a big repo it takes a while to clone and re-setup.
solar whale
@tulip sleet thanks - I've been following that guide. I'll keep doing that.
tidal kiln
good point. yah, i'm mainly dealing with realatively small repos.
and i have created issue branches before, but most of the time it's just a pr from my fork's main.
tulip sleet
This is pretty much our workflow, maybe with name changes: https://gist.github.com/Chaser324/ce0505fbed06b947d962
tidal kiln
yah, like you said, i think i'm using fork like you use branch.
i've always wondered why github doesn't have a button for the "Keeping Fork Up To Date" stuff
prime flower
Yeah, I wish they did too. I usually follow this guide: https://gist.github.com/CristinaSolana/1885435
idle owl
@solar whale I use branches, and update when it makes sense. Sometimes it gets so flustered that I'll delete and reclone at that point.
@solar whale Keeping your clone up to date is pretty simple once you've done it a few times. It sets in as habit.
solar whale
@idle owl thnaks -- yeah _ do a lot of clone syncing _ especially for repos I use, but dont usually contribute to. I also have gotten used to installing PRs to my clones in a new branch - that has been very useful.
idle owl
Ok yeah. That's how I do it. All my PRs are branches. Then if the branch gets fuzzy you can delete that and you still have the simpler time updating master.
solar whale
Thanks for all the comments. I just wanted to make sure I was "on the right track" Sounds like it....so far
idle owl
@solar whale In the end, it's what works best for you. But if you're new to all of it, it's nice to have a place to start. My workflow closely follows the workflow of the people who taught me most. But it works for me so I've stuck with it. ๐
solar whale
OK cool! just got my forked Bundle repo synced after my PR was merged ( accidentally did it from master, but it all worked out )
tidal kiln
@solar whale my guess is you don't need to do a new release
raven canopy
@solar whale i've been struggling with getting the workflow down too. I mentioned to tannewt that a "here's the workflow" document might help; especially since they've decided to go with the merge strategy vs rebase/squash (complete with flow chart, for the visual folks). branches are life savers on forks...i'm slowly learning. @tulip sleet, if that workflow you posted is the "defacto", I can start working on said document/visual aid.
indigo wedge
@solar whale got my display working too :D https://media.giphy.com/media/xThta6tw5vyUlrKT28/giphy.gif
not the fastest thing ever ๐
timber mango
wow
heady dove
Good evening all! I'm wondering if Ampy is still the thing to use to communicate with my Feather Huzzah, as far as making directories, moving files etc? Is there a newer version than 1.0.1?
I finally got the newest version of circuitpython installed on the Feather
idle owl
@heady dove I checked mine and I'm running 1.0.3. As far as I know that's the way to communicate, yes. Great job getting CircuitPython installed!
heady dove
Thank you, I wasn't able to get 1.0.1 talking, but I wasn't sure if I was banging my head against a wall
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heady dove
I need to access the "Adafruit bus device" lib, which is a folder, in which nothing is actually called "adafruit bus device", the calling program is using the folder name as the reference?
and that would be the same for any of the folders in the "lib" folder?
idle owl
Not necessarily, a lot of them are named as they are imported.
But for some that have mutliple libs within, yes, that's how they're referenced, although if you write your code a certain way, you could call some of them directly.
heady dove
I was able to move the files, but not create a directory, and the sample program didn't recognize the call
idle owl
I haven't worked with ampy. Can you copy a directory that already exists? You could make a custom lib directory and copy that instead.
heady dove
well thats what I was trying to do, but I couldn't get ampy to do it, and it didn't seem like I could make one with the webrepl
idle owl
Hmm ok. I'm not sure, it was a guess
heady dove
I'll keep working on it, at least I know I'm headed in the right direction. I'll get 1.0.3 also, just incase
idle owl
You might get a better answer too from someone who knows, when they're around
heady dove
will do, who's the guru of 8266?
idle owl
There's a few, I know @solar whale is one. But I'm not sure when they're around.
A lot of people are really good about reading through for previous questions. So you may get a ping in the morning from someone running back through everything, etc.
raven canopy
@heady dove have you been using TonyD's guide for loading modules?
It was written for MicroPython, but ampy directions should be the same.
slender iron
<@&356864093652516868> Here is the recording for this week's weekly! Let me know if you have questions/comments. https://youtu.be/WhmzkX9RwGI
indigo wedge
Thanks for putting up the recording of the meeting yesterday, @slender iron, gave me a chance to see what I missed before I joined in!
slender iron
excellent @indigo wedge ! glad you appreciate it
timber lion
this is cool, i got a couple sino:bits (naomi wu's microbit but for the chinese market) and am getting the micropython port to work on it.. basically just ripping out all the display related code since the sino:bit has a dedicated HT16 charlieplex controller vs. the micro:bit doing it with its GPIO
if you have a sino bit i'm finding they're pretty flakey to program over USB with just USB bus power... you really need to plug in a battery or power source to make sure it has enough juice or else it fails to flash about 75% of the time
no real harm since it has a dedicated USB firmware flashing chip--it seems pretty robust
nocturne sluice
Hey All!
I got bit of a noob question, but was thinking maybe its actually possible.
Is the there a way to send a Float or an Int from a CircuitPython board to the PC via USB without using the Serial Print?
To avoid the whole Char parsing and conversion procedure.
Maybe something like OSC that works over USB?
In other way, what would be the best way to send values from a sensor connected to a board running CircuitPython to another script running on my PC via USB?
Thanks!!
stuck elbow
@nocturne sluice can't think of anything like that
@nocturne sluice serial is the easiest way
nocturne sluice
๐
stuck elbow
you can use the struct module to pack the float into bytes and then unpack it, it's super-easy
nocturne sluice
yeh was worried that would be the case
is there a reference to to the struct module?
nocturne sluice
ah cool also found this: https://circuitpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/shared-bindings/struct/__init__.html
awesome thanks!
@stuck elbow so after I pack it i send the bytes via the serial print then unpack on my pc? right?
stuck elbow
precisely
nocturne sluice
awesome thank you very much!
stuck elbow
good luck!
solar whale
@heady dove did you get ampy to work for you? Here is how I copy the adafruit_bus_device folder from my host machine to an esp8266: $ ampy -p /dev/ttyUSB0 put ~/projects/Adafruit_Circuitpython_Bundle/2.x/lib/adafruit_bus_device lib/adafruit_bus_device
@heady dove if you need to create the lib filder on teh esp8266 then use" ampy -p <your_port> mkdir lib
cunning notch
I'm looking to replace a RPI project with CircuitPython. I'm looking at the Feather ESP8266 for the networking. I need to be able to send ASCII data via RS232 to a serial printer. What are my options for serial to RS232 (TTL to RS232?) ? Thanks in advance.
solar whale
@cunning notch This is not encouraging - see notes at the end - the UART is used for the Circuitpython REPL. https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/circuitpython-for-esp8266
stuck elbow
yeah, esp8266 only has one uart, and it's already used for the repl
but I wonder if there are any spi or i2c chips that do rs232
cunning notch
@solar whale Yes, I saw that. I also see that the Tx and Rx, though connected to USB, are still available. I'm looking to convert basic serial to RS232 (voltages, etc.). Any options for using SPI or I2C for this?
I have half a dozen RPIs running in read only mode in an industrial production enviroment. They are working great but I would like to see if I can do the same application with a MicroPython device.
I own a Trinket M0, Feather M0 Express, and a Feather HUZZAH ESP8266. Plus an original PyBoard. ๐
stuck elbow
looks like MAX3110E/MAX3111E could potentially work
solar whale
stuck elbow
the max ones already convert to rs232
cunning notch
Both good options. The MAX series already have the RS232 circuitry builtin. But the SCI may get job for another RS485 project I'm looking at this summer. Thanks! ๐
SparkFun has a similar breakout but appears to be discontinued.
solar whale
I saw that.
cunning notch
As a CircuitPython shout out, I have a new project that I think the Trinket will do nicely. I need to send a series of millisecond pulses to select a vision system's current program. I think this is an excellent task for the smallest of the small. ๐
stuck elbow
since it recently has pulseio included, that should work
cunning notch
I hope so too. Just kooked it up and updated CP.
cunning notch
Wow, AdaBot told on me. LOL ๐
solar whale
no secrets here ๐
umbral dagger
@timber lion I (and others) have found the sino:bit to be sensitive wrt USB. E.g. it will work on one hub and not another. In my experience, if I can talk to it, itโs been stable without the need for additional/alternative power.
@timber lion Also, awesome about micropython!
cunning notch
dmesg on my laptop is telling me "Volume was not properly unmounted." Do I need to run fsck on the Trinket M0?
I can access the REPL, drive, and it runs my code fine.
solar whale
@cunning notch UNless it is giving you trouble, you should be able to ignore this.
cunning notch
@solar whale Does reflashing create a clean partition?
cunning notch
@solar whale Oh yeah, the erase image. Thanks
solar whale
@cunning notch I often see the "not properly unmounted" setting since after flashing, it dses a reboot and does not "gracefully" unmount.
cunning notch
Does it hurt to fsck anyway?
solar whale
@cunning notch I have not tried it.
manic glacierBOT
cunning notch
@solar whale 'sudo fsck.fat -a /dev/sdd1' Removed dirty bit. No more errors.
Logical size was not decreased so there were potentially no orphaned chains. Makes sense considering there isn't much on it yet anyway. ๐
solar whale
@indigo wedge just curious - how are you powering your PCA10056 DK board when you use the UART cable - I am still powering via the USB conenctor - so only have TX/RX/GND connected from the cable.
indigo wedge
@solar whale yep, exactly as you describe
solar whale
good - just wanted to make sure the setup was similar.
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opal elk
I'm seeing my CPX as a drive on windows but it isn't in device manager as having a COM port
solar whale
@opal elk Is teh CPX running CircuitPython or the "pre-installed MakeCode Demo?
Does the Makcode demo show up as a serial port - never looked.
opal elk
well something happened and my board was wiped (not going to bother diagnosing it; I had it hooked up to a pi for a while doing i += 1 so I probably did something naughty)
it has my main.py now
solar whale
@opal elk Dont' worry, It'll probalby happen again - at the most inopportune time - you can diagnose it then... ๐
heady dove
Good afternoon all, in one of the 'learn" columns it says " Remember if you're using a board that doesn't support hardware I2C (like the ESP8266) you need to use the bitbangio module instead:" but the Feather Huzzah has SDA and SCL pins, do I need to use bitbango or busio? I'm talking to a BNO055
tidal kiln
@heady dove as part of the feather form factor, i2c pins are provided in the same location, how that is done varies from board to board depending on what the chip is, so it may end up being either HW or SW i2c
heady dove
cool, thanks guess I'll use bitbangio
tidal kiln
the feather huzzah is just the esp8266 broken out in the feather form factor, so whatever you're reading w.r.t. to an esp8266 should apply
what learn guide are you reading? (just to make sure it's not saying anything confusing)
heady dove
timber mango
yeah ESP dos not hvae hardware i2c
you have to bitbang it, just use pins 4 and 5
it works fine tho ๐
heady dove
Awesome, again Thank you ALL, I love this community and I LOVE Adafruit
tidal kiln
@heady dove yep, what it says, the second recipe:
https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-bno055-absolute-orientation-sensor/circuitpython-code#usage
although i see another bug in those examples...is itadafruit_bno055.BNO055 or adafruit_bno055.Adafruit_BNO055 ??
the former:
https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_BNO055/blob/master/adafruit_bno055.py#L88
@heady dove so that should be:
import board
import bitbangio
import adafruit_bno055
i2c = bitbangio.I2C(board.SCL, board.SDA)
sensor = adafruit_bno055.BNO055(i2c)
Again, thank you all .... lets see if this works ๐
indigo wedge
@slender iron can I request a review from someone when I create a PR or is it only people with special access like you that can do it?
slender iron
@indigo wedge I think you can. microbuilder will be doing most of yours
indigo wedge
ah it seems I can not https://help.github.com/articles/requesting-a-pull-request-review/
Note: Pull request authors can't request reviews unless they are either a repository owner or collaborator with write access to the repository.
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slender iron
ah ok
heady dove
So I got this error, when I ran the test code "Traceback (most recent call last):
File "main.py", line 5, in <module>
File "adafruit_bno055.py", line 125, in init
RuntimeError: bad chip id (0 != a0)
tidal kiln
@heady dove how do you have the BNO wired in to the feather?
solar whale
@heady dove Just incase you stumble across this like I did... on the esp8266 I2C is "bitbanged" but the "busio" module actually uses the bitbang interface, so you can uses either "import busio" ot "import bitbangio" This had me very confused for ahwile....
heady dove
Vin to 3V, gnd to gnd SLA to SLA SCL to SCL via 4 conductor Canare quad star
slender iron
@solar whale yeah, I changed how that worked with 2.x I think
heady dove
@solar whale I'm importing bitbangio
tidal kiln
so busio does either HW or SW?
slender iron
on esp8266 yes
if there is no hardware support then it'll bitbang
on samd21 it'll be picky about the pins, it won't silently bitbang
heady dove
interesting
tidal kiln
so no longer a need for two different setups? like guide is showing now?
@heady dove is the cable soldered directly, or are you using it as a jumper with a breadboard? can you post photo?
heady dove
it's on a breadboard, not sure how i would post a pic
heady dove
though I guess discord is on my phone, can I log in from two devices?
solar whale
@heady dove - yes you can
tidal kiln
@heady dove google says that cable is essentialy 21 AWG solid core. correct?
tidal kiln
looks like you soldered on some header pins to get it in the breadboard
heady dove
I did
tidal kiln
what's the total length of cable?
heady dove
from your arm to your back ... about a meter
wrist actually
atempting to get positional data off a dancer into a Max for Live rig
I had it working via the arduino IDE but wanted to try it in circuitpython
tidal kiln
same cable?
heady dove
yes
tidal kiln
same board? just using arduino instead of CP?
heady dove
exactly yes
tidal kiln
hmmmm
heady dove
it has been in one of my carry cases, I suppose it could have been damaged
tidal kiln
try again with arduino, see if you can repeat success
tidal kiln
ok. try that and report back.
heady dove
will do, again thanks for the help, I love this community
indigo wedge
I'm a little confused about the module naming, in the docs it says "No module aliasing. (uos and utime are not available as os and time respectively.) Instead os, time, and random are CPython compatible." but then the ble module is called "ubluepy" not "bluepy".
slender iron
@indigo wedge it hasn't been fixed ๐
indigo wedge
to the PR cave!
slender iron
we inherit a bunch of u* from micropython and have only fixed so many of them
if I could wave a magic wand they'd all be fixed ๐
indigo wedge
ok, i'll keep that in mind when going through the code
slender iron
@indigo wedge i think you can check off some of these line items now: https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/526
thank you!
indigo wedge
not quite, the gamepad is on review and struct will be next, i just gotta test some github stuff on a dummy repo to understand PRs better cause I'm still unsure about dependencies in PRs
also it seems i don't have rights to check off anything if you meant me doing it ๐
slender iron
hrm, I thought you would
added you as a collab @indigo wedge so you should be able to now
indigo wedge
yep, so many new options
and push access, that's scary, need to make sure i push to the right remote ๐
this is all happening so fast ๐
slender iron
@raven canopy looking at your trellis PR now
indigo wedge
the nRF MCUs don't have analog out but the analogio doesn't allow disabling just the AnalogOut class so right now we have empty dummy functions, what's the best exception to throw if anyone tries to create a AnalogOut instance? NotImplementedError seems closest but not quite right
idle owl
@indigo wedge I have in another lib, that had things that weren't compatible with the current version of CPy, RuntimeError.
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idle owl
Not sure it's the same thing though. https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_CircuitPython_CircuitPlayground/blob/4df91b8ddf05bc5918ec9b1282b50cae4055e6af/adafruit_circuitplayground/express.py#L211
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indigo wedge
exception RuntimeError
Raised when an error is detected that doesnโt fall in any of the other categories.
That sounds about right. Thanks @idle owl
idle owl
@indigo wedge Sure thing!
tulip sleet
@indigo wedge @idle owl we can #ifdef out AnalogOut as necessary. We just need to add another #ifdef like the ones in mpconfig.h and mpconfigport.h and ...board.h.
idle owl
That's handy.
tulip sleet
https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#NotImplementedError: Note It should not be used to indicate that an operator or method is not meant to be supported at all โ in that case either leave the operator / method undefined or, if a subclass, set it to None.
indigo wedge
yeah i thought of that but it felt like a larger system decision that I'm not ready to take on just yet ๐
tulip sleet
you'll get there -- those #define's are not sacred!
indigo wedge
yeah but don't want to break all ports on my way ๐
ifdefing out the AnalogOut would be perfect cause that functionality is not available on the nrf platform so no class should be accessible
idle owl
Break and fix, that's how this has worked all along. ๐
tulip sleet
make an issue to remove it at some point if you don't want to do it now
indigo wedge
can do!
a exception in the constructor works quite well too cause then you can't create an instance
indigo wedge
is Kevin/microbuilder available in this channel?
idle owl
@indigo wedge No
indigo wedge
Ok, thanks ๐
solar whale
@timber lion @slender iron Just tried rfm69 and aio (using urequests) on CP3.0 with much better results. basic test is working. gc.mem_free shows >15K bytes before urequests call now - looks like it was just marginal with 2.x.
timber lion
oh that's excellent @solar whale!
solar whale
@timber lion I do have the response stuff stripped out of urequests. I can see if it makes any difference to put it back, but glad to see it working.
timber lion
also good validation that SPI is working well enough to talk to to it too
yeah i bet the response is ok now, it's good about lazy loading the data i saw
so only if you read it will it start buffering
solar whale
hmm - putting it back fropped memory to <15K and it reset on the first try!!
timber lion
oh wow haha
maybe it's not as smart as i thought
i saw it seemed to only start reading if you parsed the results
but yeah if you don't need the response then maybe best to keep it out
solar whale
at least for now - One step at at time!
indigo wedge
what's the deal with bitbangio, is it deprecated or not yet implemented? because i see it's used in the esp port but that one is not built on travis, so is it officially supported? it's not used in the samd port. I'm trying to get it working on the nrf port and I can't get it to compile cause dest used here https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/blob/master/shared-module/bitbangio/SPI.c#L143 is not defined anywhere. i could try building esp to see if it even builds there but iirc esp need a special compiler and i don't want to spend time on setting that up ๐
solar whale
@indigo wedge It is used on the esp8266 port, but I ahve also stested it on the SAMD boards so I know it works.
indigo wedge
hmm, I'll have to look more into it then
indigo wedge
i guess the problem is none of the boards in CI use that module so if it gets broken no one would notice until they try to build themselves
see like this dest variable, it doesn't seem to come from anywhere https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/pull/564/files#diff-4c50a0fe8b1265e4ac799b34e0047542R268
solar whale
ah - just saw the note about it not being compiled in master - I was testing it on 2.x
I think you'll need @slender iron or @tulip sleet to clarify the status
slender iron
I'm back from climbing!
@indigo wedge We need to reenable it in atmel-samd on master
esp8266 isn't in the CI because of the toolchain stuff
we should get it there sometime ๐
indigo wedge
I'm trying to build samd now to verify, i don't have a board to test but can at least see if it builds
tulip sleet
that dest is in an #ifdef that I think is false
slender iron
we disabled a bunch of modules with the switch to asf4 so its possible its disabled
tulip sleet
it may still need some implementation in asf4 before it works
indigo wedge
ok it builds for whatever the default target in samd is
hmm
the search for the dest continues
i might be wrong but bitbangio should be port-agnostic since it probably just toggles GPIOs
slender iron
@indigo wedge I think there is a mp_raise_OSError to use now isntead of the nlr_push directly
indigo wedge
I believe so, yes
slender iron
anything else I can help with before I go heads down?
indigo wedge
I think I'm good for now, will post if I come up with any more questions, thanks ๐
slender iron
kk, great work @indigo wedge
tulip sleet
@indigo wedge The code in the #ifdef MICROPY_PY_MACHINE_SPI_MIN_DELAY is derived from extmod/machine_spi.c, which we don't use. That old code had a dest. So it's a latent bug which is not in compiled code right now.
indigo wedge
oooh
and in the nrf port it's defined as 0
in samd it's not defined
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I'll try removing and then building, thanks Dan
slender iron
@indigo wedge what are your thoughts on the bluepy API?
does it cover most of what you think we'll need?
indigo wedge
I haven't used it that much and I tried reading the docs now and I can see that we try to follow it but I think we also implement more
cause nowhere in the docs there's a mention on how to advertise
but we have a basic advertisement API
I think it's a good starting point but might not be enough
slender iron
kk
its open source so we could expand it
it'd be weird if we were a superset though...
indigo wedge
we kinda already are, with that advertising function
we have it, bluepy doesn't seem to
slender iron
yeah, we're not calling ourselves exactly bluepy yet
looks like pybluez is the alternative
650 stars on github vs 600 for bluepy
indigo wedge
"experimental ble support"
i think i prefer the bluepy API more
the problem is there is no one de facto python ble API
slender iron
right
indigo wedge
and none of them are complete
indigo wedge
yeah but bluez is not so much fun to work with ๐
slender iron
top result for "bluetooth python" on google is tony's guide: https://learn.adafruit.com/bluefruit-le-python-library/overview
stupid google
maybe we just come up with a new name
indigo wedge
right, to not claim compatibility
indigo wedge
cause it's really hard to say how many people will come from RPi expecting their code to work
slender iron
and then if we want to port it to CPython we for bluepy and rename
I'm more interested in the opposite, allowing people to grow into rpi code
indigo wedge
right, CP as a starting point
slender iron
yup yup
indigo wedge
then yeah, someone would have to port whatever we do to RPi/Linux
slender iron
yeah, we can always suggest trying bluepy if we preserve the overlap
indigo wedge
sounds reasonable
slender iron
there is also bluezero
indigo wedge
hmm, the documentation is lacking but looking at the code it seems like a pretty reasonable API
slender iron
did you look here: https://bluezero.readthedocs.io/en/0.0.6/overview.html
indigo wedge
yes, that's what I meant, if you look at https://bluezero.readthedocs.io/en/0.0.6/level10.html#module-bluezero.peripheral
it mentions classes but nothing more
indigo wedge
although the naming is still a little bluez-dependent:
>>> app = peripheral.Application()
>>> app.add_service(your_service)
>>> app.start()
quite a mouthful ๐
indigo wedge
that's a cool name
slender iron
not to be confused with super()
stuck elbow
blue like a jazzman's soul
indigo wedge
maybe we can call the blue module tobias ๐
slender iron
way over my head
slender iron
will wait for travis before merging
indigo wedge
It's a Arrested Development reference ๐
slender iron
ah, I've only seen a smattering of them
tidal kiln
annyong!
indigo wedge
Hello
yay, with the define removed bitbangio builds for nrf, not sure if it works but it builds ๐
cunning crypt
Hey, it's progress, right?
slender iron
works for me
as in, I'm ok if it builds
master is still pretty early in the dev cycle so we have time to find and fix issues
indigo wedge
need to visit my hackerspace to get some i2c boards to test
slender iron
@indigo wedge order it with the nrf52 feathers from kevin
order anything you need for testing
indigo wedge
they're already shipped ๐
slender iron
next time!
indigo wedge
Heh, I'm just grateful I was offered anything at all ๐
slender iron
you are being a huge help, we just want you be more help ๐
idle owl
It's true!
slender iron
doesn't nrf have hardware SPI?
indigo wedge
yes, but maybe someone wants bitbang as well
slender iron
yeah, probably not a display ๐
indigo wedge
yeah, yesterday i used the HW SPI for the display and that was faster
obviously ๐
slender iron
cool cool
indigo wedge
it was the only spi device i had on hand
indigo wedge
ok, past midnight, time to go, ttyl
idle owl
@indigo wedge have a good night!
heady dove
@tidal kiln It looks like it must be a bad sensor, didn't see find the BNO055 on a different Huzzah programed via Arduino IDE , I shortened the cable to check if it was a length or cable issue ๐ฆ
idle owl
Hmm. Did it ever work?
heady dove
yes I had it running last time I was working on the project (May?) but the sensor has been rattling around in my carry case since then
It doesn't look damaged, but maybe it is static sensitive? it wasn't protected with static foam or bag
idle owl
I'm not sure with that one.
slender iron
why would an analog read range from 360 to ~3820 when its 12 bit?
tulip sleet
@slender iron could be 12-bit accuracy as opposed to value? And then mistakenly a signed field?
slender iron
its a tilde not a minus
idle owl
Oh
slender iron
so its 360 to 3820
idle owl
hahaha That's slightly less confusing.
slender iron
sorry, I realized its confusing
tulip sleet
4096 is 2^12, so makes sense?
slender iron
on 2.x the range is wider
tulip sleet
wrong voltage ref?
tidal kiln
@heady dove so no luck repeating the previous working config. bummer. hard to say, but, yah, maybe damaged from the tour of duty in the carry case.
heady dove
just found a Adafruit 9DOF breakout on my bench, not seeing CP lib for it it's using a LSM303DLHC and a L3GD20
those haven't been ported as of yet?
heady dove
I have the one from a few days ago and didn't see it
slender iron
they don't ring a bell so I doubt they've been added
heady dove
no biggie, I'm about due to place a Adafruit order
slender iron
discount code tomorrow night!
please post two issues if you have time
we should add support in the future
heady dove
will do, where do I post issues?
idle owl
@heady dove https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues
heady dove
@idle owl Thank you, you read my mind
idle owl
It happens ๐
slender iron
thanks @heady dove !
idle owl
@slender iron You beat me to the label update. ๐
heady dove
It makes me happy to be part of a coding community
idle owl
@heady dove We're happy to have you ๐
slender iron
๐
heady dove
well I'm definately in over my head, but have been most of my life, so why change now
tulip sleet
@slender iron my apparent ASF4 USB descriptor issues were my own fault. I commented out my UART code temporarily and the new ASF4 code works fine and I get CIRCUITPY. So something wrong with my UART init, but not in ASF4 (hopefully); that's actually a big relief -- much easier to dbug.
idle owl
@tulip sleet That's good then
slender iron
glad you got past it!
I just dumped the adc state and asf4 hasn't loaded the calibration register
tulip sleet
ha!
tulip sleet
[can you explain that emoji? person with glasses looking at something] --signed, culturally ignorant
slender iron
its a table flip
tulip sleet
OH.
slender iron
someone flipping a table out of finding somethign ridiculous
idle owl
๐
tulip sleet
I'm familiar with real table flips. Jesse has done that, unfortunately. Not recently.
let's all debug asf4
slender iron
so you understand the motivation
tulip sleet
oh, yeah, he was mad
tulip sleet
m0 or m4?
slender iron
m0
tulip sleet
i happen to have a kdiff3 of the entire tree open... sadly, no changes in adc code.
slender iron
kk, I'll do it myself
tulip sleet
looks like there are hri routines to deal with the calib
slender iron
w00t! calibration made it much better
idle owl
nice!
slender iron
night all! I'm off to dinner with a friend
idle owl
later @slender iron, have a good one
manic glacierBOT
errant grail
Just mailed out two new StringCar CPy controller boards to the other side of the state. The final code consists of an abstracted main.py of 89 lines and a stringcar-specific library of 180 lines. Both fit on the Trinket M0 with 9600 bytes free. I am completely enamored with CircuitPython, particularly for this project. ๐
pastel panther
awesome job @errant grail !
I just put two and two together and realized that I should make the string racers I'm planning wth my neice
errant grail
It's a pretty good STEAM opportunity, for sure. When I taught a basic stringcar racer class to an all-adult class at our local makerspace, it brought out the giddy third-graders in them. The race at the end of the class was very competitive.
pastel panther
awesome
also, I need to buy some more m4s now that they're available again
"need"
errant grail
I experience that "need" way too often for my budget. Oh well.
How's the livewell project coming along? Did I see a random post about blue smoke?
pastel panther
hah, yea I had a janky setup with overly long and overly stripped wires for my SWD connection and shorted SWCLK to a huge lipo 
blew a hole in the case of the D11
$1 down the drain ๐คท
I've since made a tighter, longer SWD teather and put on a new chip. Started playing with JLink RTT which is cool
errant grail
Back on course, then?
pastel panther
yea, I wanted to commit my SAMD51G fixes for my m4 board though because I'm going to use the same basic design on a new board for the controller for the neice's jacket
errant grail
Very cool.