Best & easy Server hosting?

[jolly comet]

yo, I'm looking for a provider where I can host like 3 - 5 servers easily and quickly. If you guys have any suggestions for me that I could use, I would gratefully take them 🙏

[urban folio]

just buy A VPS or even better a dedi

[jolly comet]

What dedi do you recommened me for 4 servers?

[urban folio]

idk

where do you live, like america or europe etc

[jolly comet]

Europe, Germany

[urban folio]

Check out hetzner or contabo or webtropia

[jolly comet]

Alright

How much GB ram should I grab myself

[urban folio]

minium 16Gb

[jolly comet]

23,48€

[urban folio]

looks good to me

[jolly comet]

never used ubuntu

putty etc

have to get used to it then lmfao

what should I use here

[urban folio]

hmm

docker maybe

not sure

[jolly comet]

ight

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[urban folio]

looked at it and it is garbage.

1. locations only in americas
2. nearly no info on the dedicated servers
3. 16 dollars per unturned server
4. again no info on the dedis

Also get out of here with that advertising

[earnest widget]

You want my honest opinion? If it's nothing big I suggest a VPS from Contabo

You can easly get 2 servers on 1 vps

It depends also what you want on your server, crazy mods, crazy amount of ram needed

[earnest widget]

I agree with Jatapa on this

I picked english and your site gives me prob spanish text

As a customer I don't wanna translate stuff

[earnest widget]

If you wanna go big OVH

[earnest widget]

That's for web iirc

[sterile sierra]

[jolly comet]

just simple semi vanilla server 5 servers

[sterile sierra]

need a full biohazard suit, not just a gas mask for this level of radiation

[jolly comet]

with some plugins

[jolly comet]

isn’t this good for 27€?

[earnest widget]

Then 4gb per server is good

[jolly comet]

doesn’t it depends on the map a lot?

[earnest widget]

Not really

[sterile sierra]

LAMP or just default are my go-tos

[earnest widget]

maps don't weight like 2gb

[jolly comet]

okay

[sterile sierra]

though LAMP only matters if you're going to use things dependent on it (and don't want to bother with installing the software manually)

[earnest widget]

Ubuntu 20.24

[jolly comet]

I have no idea how to use linux / ubuntu though

have to watch tutorials then

[earnest widget]

Go windows then

[sterile sierra]

I would not do that

[jolly comet]

not paying extra 20€ for a windows server

[earnest widget]

Windows is not bad

[sterile sierra]

Ubuntu (even CLI) should be easy enough to get experience in if you're willing to google/etc. issues

the software I'd recommend installing would be putty and filezilla (assuming you're on windows), though any similar software will work

[jolly comet]

yeah I know

[earnest widget]

He isn't gonna go with windows

[jolly comet]

putty and filezilla was I’m gonna use

[earnest widget]

ah like that

yeah then I agree with karma

[jolly comet]

how many servers can I get with these specs?

is the specs good

[earnest widget]

2 virtual cpu's per server

[sterile sierra]

💀 obviously you don't need them on the server itself

[jolly comet]

so 4?

[earnest widget]

you want 4 servers right?

[sterile sierra]

well, depending on the amount of plugins (and how good that CPU actually is + whether you're actually getting all those vcores for yourself) you could get quite a few

[jolly comet]

lemme check what cpu it was

[earnest widget]

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v4 @ 2.20GHz

[jolly comet]

btw that’s an vls

vos

vps

[earnest widget]

Yeah it's VPS l

[sterile sierra]

vps = virtual private server

[jolly comet]

is there a big difference between vps and dedi

[earnest widget]

Ah mb

You chose nvme

AMD EPYC 7282 16-Core Processor

[jolly comet]

What site are you looking at

[sterile sierra]

if you know what a dedicated or actual server it's basically just splitting such a server into multiple smaller servers

[earnest widget]

Contabo as you picked

[jolly comet]

so dedi is in multiple

and vps basically one big server

[jolly comet]

how much

[sterile sierra]

dedi = you own the whole server
vps = you own a part of a server

I'll note that contabo is usually a cheap option because they oversell mediocre hardware, meaning that you're likely not getting quite what is seemingly advertised

it has a pretty bad rep in the hosting community in general, though plenty of people use it regardless

[jolly comet]

hm

idk what else to use

just want a cheap server for like 30€

where can I host at least 4 servers

[sterile sierra]

I'll add that it would likely be fine for that purpose regardless

hosting 4 likely light servers isn't exactly a task that needs super high-end hardware or anything

[jolly comet]

well it would be usedul doe cause maybe I want to add more servers

[sterile sierra]

the important questions are basically: (for CPU) the amount of servers + expected player count + plugins, (for RAM) the amount of mods (in GB) on those servers

[jolly comet]

no mods

just a big map like a6 russia washington

plugins just like tpa home moderation playerstats

[sterile sierra]

I'll also add that often VPSs are charged by the minute and it's usually at least fairly easy if not super easy to upgrade (for example an upgrade could even be done in minutes)

any expected player counts? Though this mostly matters if you for some reason want to get 100+ players (across servers or on a single server, though I probably would recommend something other than a VPS for a single server with that many people)

[jolly comet]

maybe 30 per server

not expecting pretty big playerbase

depends

maybe even like 30 players split on the servers

[sterile sierra]

realistically if you're not expecting hundreds of players you could probably make it work with 2GB of RAM per server and 1vcore per server (though this is assuming you get full use of those vcores, i.e. not via contabo), safe side would probably be 3GB of RAM per server and 1.5-2 vcores per server

[jolly comet]

yeah doesn’t matter tbh I can pay 30€ per month

[sterile sierra]

In case you didn't know vcore basically equates to a a CPU thread, they can also be referred to when talking about CPU usage (usually in the context of Linux), 100% = 1 thread/vcore

[jolly comet]

okay

so let’s say

if I buy that vps

[jolly comet]

^

I could be able to host 4 - 5 servers easily

[sterile sierra]

basically especially if you go with the safe side for 5 servers (15GB of RAM and 7.5 (or more likely 8) vcores) anything that is advertised as that should work

[sterile sierra]

The easy answer is yes

[jolly comet]

okay good

I’ll buy the vps then

with 40 slots easily on each server

or 24?

[sterile sierra]

slots don't really matter, only the amount of active players

but either should be fine, 40 generally isn't exactly that big of a player count when considering CPU

[jolly comet]

okay

[sterile sierra]

for actually hosting multiple servers I'd take a look at LinuxGSM, it's generally the easiest approach for it on Linux

Pterodactyl is the "standard" approach but not something that I, or anyone with sense, would recommend to someone not yet fully accustomed to the linux (CLI) environment/etc.

[sterile sierra]

(specifically if you just follow the official guide you'll run into problems hosting multiple servers at once, you practically need external software to do it properly and LinuxGSM is much easier than say, messing with docker

[jolly comet]

is LinuxGSM cheap?

[sterile sierra]

it's free

https://linuxgsm.com/servers/untserver/

[jolly comet]

ohh

so I need to install that to my vps

[sterile sierra]

basically just copy and run the command(s) under the right OS version in the dependencies, then follow install instructions for the thing itself

overall setup should take maybe a few minutes at most, at least if you can operate a CLI

I would consider looking up the basics of that first though

[jolly comet]

alright

I’ll setup the unturned server on my local pc then if I finished I buy the VPS and try to setup everything up

[dusk slate]

Saw someone mention Contabo, if it hasn't already been advised against let me say it now, I've tried and its not a pretty sight, their CPU's just aren't up to scratch for hosting a game server, though they work fine for running other things.

[jolly comet]

What do you recommend then

[sterile sierra]

I mean I did already mention that

though really just in terms of them overselling, not whether the CPUs are any good

[dusk slate]

if it hasn't already been advised
Already got that scenario covered lmao

[dusk slate]

Hetzner are good if you are in Europe

[sterile sierra]

you don't exactly need a high-power CPU to run a fairly basic U3 server

[jolly comet]

their cheapest is like 40€ doe

[sterile sierra]

that's for dedis, not VPS

[jolly comet]

oh

lemme check

[dusk slate]

Well for about 25€ you could just buy 4 hosted servers

Depending on what you wish to host*

[sterile sierra]

a dedi would be good for running way more servers or just higher-load ones

[dusk slate]

More mods = more RAM, more plugins = more CPU ^

[jolly comet]

don’t want everything to be seperate

[sterile sierra]

hey we already saw one host rec here

[dusk slate]

Depends what you mean by seperate, if you buy them from one company then they will all be in a list if they are using pterodactyl panel

[sterile sierra]

and importantly, more servers = more everything

I mean I currently run ~20 servers, a VPS wouldn't be too sensible in price there

[jolly comet]

how much per server and do you pay per slots?

[sterile sierra]

never go with a host that charges by slots

[dusk slate]

I only pay about 7 per server, but I run vanilla ones so they don't need as much power, infinite slots

power -> ram & cpu

[jolly comet]

i’m looking to host semi vanilla

[sterile sierra]

honestly people tend to overestimate CPU and especially RAM requirements

[dusk slate]

Well think of a list of plugins/mods you would want first, then we can guage a rough idea of how they would be performance wise, but again it's very dependant on online players

[sterile sierra]

For example even 4GB is enough for quite a lot mods/etc. and I've yet to see someone actually need more than 2 vcores on a server

[sterile sierra]

tldr already done

nothing particularly demanding there

[jolly comet]

already mentioned kt above

it

[sterile sierra]

and player count expectations aren't high enough for them to matter, either

[jolly comet]

^

[dusk slate]

plugins just like tpa home moderation playerstats
so pretty much nothing then

[sterile sierra]

basically pretty much any basic server should do

[jolly comet]

yeah

[dusk slate]

Yeah those would run at vanilla performance, you could easily get away with 2-3GB at most

[sterile sierra]

I already said that

[jolly comet]

yeah

[sterile sierra]

my estimate for context, shouldn't be particularly out of the ordinary

[jolly comet]

karma already mentioned that above

I just need a good vps for 30€ now

[sterile sierra]

but yeah, using a VPS is an option and so would be buying game servers from, well, a number of game hosting companies

[dusk slate]

In this case I would suggest them to buy the servers from a company, seems like purchasing a VPS would be more hassle than its worth

[jolly comet]

hmm

what company is cheap for an unturned server with unlimited server and can they connect over one mysql database

[dusk slate]

I use ModernHosting, but have privately discussed with the owner a deal to get them for 8$ ~ 7.5€ each, I could mention extending the offer to you, I've done it for others

[sterile sierra]

DBs are a basic feature you'd expect from all hosts

[jolly comet]

how much is it normally

[sterile sierra]

I've only ever gotten free servers from them

[dusk slate]

Not worth it in your case, 10$

[jolly comet]

yeah then a vps would be better

[dusk slate]

Yeah, if you want I can mention him offering the same deal to you, but otherwise you're best going with a 40 euro VPS

[jolly comet]

would be awesome

[jolly comet]

the vps I mentioned above is 28€

[sterile sierra]

These would be Hetzner's options (with German VAT)

[dusk slate]

This one company has been giving me 2 free servers for 3 years, I genuinely think they forgot I exist 😂

[sterile sierra]

(options that fit reqs here)

[dusk slate]

Contabo ~ Wouldn't suggest

[jolly comet]

so go with hetzner

[sterile sierra]

though the top one isn't something I'd quite recommend for 5 servers (though chances are it'd work), 3-4 should do fine

[jolly comet]

okay

[dusk slate]

Yes, the bottom one Karma sent is ideal

[jolly comet]

alright

[jolly comet]

well if you try to get a deal I would def use it if not i’ll get the vps

[sterile sierra]

I'll note that I didn't actually get free servers just because, it was for some testing (related to GSLT functionality) that I wanted to do that Mo was also interested in

I had no intentions of keeping the servers even if they let me, I just didn't want to rent a VPS or two for some testing

[dusk slate]

I got them in a deal for some promotion, however they seemed to have forgotten they exist so they've just been put towards vanilla servers 🤷‍♂️ they have also done a similar thing with a friend so maybe its just their policy, I'm unsure but not complaining

[jolly comet]

xd

[jolly comet]

Well just let me know, if not i'll get myself an vps from hetzner

[dusk slate]

I've asked him, just waiting on a response, will let you know when he does

[jolly comet]

I really appreciate it ^^

[dusk slate]

He got back to me, he said he'd do you 5 servers at 8$ each or 4 at 9$ each

[urban folio]

The problem with just buying servers is that if you want to add more servers then you need to buy more of them where as with a vps or dedi you can just create a new one

[jolly comet]

yeah

[jolly comet]

well now it’s a hard question

buy 5 servers for 40

or a vps for 30

where i can add more

[dusk slate]

where from

if its contabo don't

vps is definitely better, but for your price point finding one suitable for game servers is hard

[urban folio]

Nobody talking about contabo at this point

[dusk slate]

Have you used them for hosting? Had a quick look around and apparently they offer little/no ddos protection, and their single core performance is not as good as the hetzner one Karma sent

[sterile sierra]

why do I doubt these "guaranteed" figures...

especially 8 vcores for that cheap just seems implausible

[urban folio]

Yeah ik. But used to use them and they worked well. And they have heavy automation on all of their things so

[urban folio]

That is webtropia. They do have ddos protection and yes I did used them some years ago

Also used contabo dedi and it survived well couple ddos atta ks that we got but that was years ago before they redid all their plans etc

Currently using hetzner dedi personally

[dusk slate]

Ah I only had a brief look and saw that some recent reviews had mentioned it, could of just been their experience.

[urban folio]

And things could have changed after I stopped using them

[jolly comet]

for so cheap??

[urban folio]

I will not guarante that it will be a great experince but it should be fine

[jolly comet]

I mean as long I can host 4 servers for 20€ it'll be fine, right

[urban folio]

Ye should be fine

Only one way to find out

[jolly comet]

to try it out.

[jolly comet]

Do you think I should install Pterodactyl then?

[sterile sierra]

Did I not already advise against that?

Unless you have a good understanding of the topic you likely won't be able to make it work

[jolly comet]

I mean there's tutorials no?

[sterile sierra]

well, there's documentation

doesn't mean that you should touch it unless you already are very familiar with linux, somewhat familiar with databases (MySQL/MariaDB) and most importantly reading documentation

[jolly comet]

Alright

I'm still wondering rn which vps I should grab tbh

[jolly comet]

@sterile sierra hetzner

[urban folio]

That is good and hetzner you can trust

[jolly comet]

cloud server is vps right

[urban folio]

Yeah

[jolly comet]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

what does this mean*

@ hetzner+

btw which cpu?

intel / amd?

[urban folio]

0.0466€ per hour = price per month

[urban folio]

Personally would go with amd but ask karma

[jolly comet]

amd and intels r way more expensive

the one I sent was ampere didn't realize

[jolly comet]

this one is intel

[jolly comet]

@urban folio I need to pay to even use their products? what.

[sterile sierra]

oh I guess they changed that from the time I started using them

hetzner charges you the month after you've used the product, meaning that there's probably been a good amount of people signing up with new accounts, using servers and just never paying the bill

I'd expect the 20€ to either go towards your server bill or just get refunded to you

[earnest widget]

It's a deposit

Similair to T-mobile

You wanna get a phone but you not from that country where you are located @

you pay the phone price in full and then per month

it's a deposit to make sure you ain't gonna finess them

[jolly comet]

I heard that someone verified with the 20€ paypal

and then hetzner asked them for their ID etc.

[sterile sierra]

well, they could do that, though I don't recall them doing that when I originally started using them

at least I don't recall being asked for ID/etc. at that point

though that was a couple years back

[jolly comet]

I'm gonna try the tropia shit

the one jatapa used

doesn't need to be good servers, as long my 4 servers are running fine lol

[urban folio]

They might also ask for ID

[jolly comet]

eh

I bought already

[urban folio]

They are more likely to do so

[jolly comet]

but it's waiting for them to confirm

I paid but it have to be confirmed by themp

been waiting since hours now

[warm charm]

Why are you generating your self promos with chatgpt 💀

[lethal sparrow]

YOOO LMAO JUST NOTICED XDD

[jolly comet]

lmfao

[leaden spoke]

Bisect is what I use

[earnest widget]

@jolly comet did u end up buying a VPS?

cuz if you want an easy way to manage ur servers use https://pterodactyl.io

there's an unofficial installation script that makes installing pterodactyl take 3 minutes, instead of 3 hours

https://github.com/pterodactyl-installer/pterodactyl-installer

[sterile sierra]

pterodactyl is not going to make life easier without a lot of technical knowledge

[warm charm]

^

Self-hosting ptero can be a pain in the ass

[earnest widget]

if someone can install LinuxGSM, they can install this.

[urban folio]

But it ain't that great of a tool

[sterile sierra]

Linux GSM is a couple commands

Pterodactyl is a lot more

[sterile sierra]

I'll also note that the installer isn't officially supported and the people who know what's up with things outright refuse to help if you've used it

Pterodactyl is great, there's a reason it's standard in the industry, but that doesn't make it at all good for most people