SeaToSea

[stoic pendant]

im looking for the blueprint, I already have the one for the enzyme 42 traces but somehow not for the salve yet

[unreal flame]

Who are you referring to here?

[forest valve]

he is referring to anthomnia

[unreal flame]

It’s ambiguous.

[pallid schooner]

Im not

I was referring Aci

[forest valve]

ah, did not realise we switched it up with aci and anthomnia

like i didnt read the message that made the convo switch to it

[stoic pendant]

still havent found it grrr :(

[stoic pendant]

so it is supposed to be in the ||cave next to the small garden base in the grassy plateau|| right? because it is just not there in my world

[forest valve]

ingredient for it yes, not the recipe i dont think

[stoic pendant]

bruh ok

[stoic pendant]

then where is it

holy shit wait probably the ||degasi base in the grand reef||

nvm not found now im officially lost

[worldly valve]

Hows your plant collecting and scanning goinf?

Take your time imo reika, espeially if you think we could have to reset a second time qith a pre build updatr

I wilk re iterate that there are some freebie salves spmewhere in a base if you can find it, i dont think it's a very "restricted" area

I think you were nearby what you needed during your search but my memory is foggy

[stoic pendant]

I mean my plant collection is quite large i'd say and I already got the full liquid breathing system and fluid and stuff

[worldly valve]

I dont think i see what im looking for

Maybe im wrong

Reference your flora and fuana zearch chart

[stoic pendant]

most upper one is alkhali vine

[worldly valve]

Hmm

I think its a

Whatchmacallit recpice

Modification

[stoic pendant]

ok so

[worldly valve]

Im sure surprised you dont have the recipe

[stoic pendant]

yeah thats what I thought and ive also chopped every of theese plants at least once just in case

also I just unlocked luminol but I dont think that helps

[worldly valve]

Ohhhh

I see where is is

Sorey i totally misremembered how it unlocks

Scanning rooms

I thought it was a bush/flora unlock

Its a data box

You can still find some free nanowraps somewhere

But there is a data box you want

Might be a good time to scour your finding logs in the different biomes

Check for uncompelted ones

[stoic pendant]

Those I already have lol including the recipe

[worldly valve]

Maybe "medium" difficulty bion?÷@

Oh

What are we looking for?

Healing salve?

[stoic pendant]

The one ||behind the aurora||

[stoic pendant]

Yes

[worldly valve]

Thats a plant

[stoic pendant]

But which one

[worldly valve]

Salve bush

[worldly valve]

Just to be clesr

You need it for the bandages yes?

[normal rune]

Coming in a bit late to the discussion -- trying now to find the Salve Bush plant, but have the blueprint and needing hint? Or have the plant and needing hint for the blueprint?

[stoic pendant]

No for the healing salve

besides I already have those

[stoic pendant]

in the north-eastern grassy plateau ||near a little survivor base in a cave||

[trail ether]

after some thought and a dream I have made the difficult decision to cancel the most ambitious feature that was holding up the next update

a feature which itself occurred to me in a dream

[stoic pendant]

lmao

another great feature would be minding to tell me where to find the healing salve

[worldly valve]

What do you mean the healing salve man?

|| salve bush gives the seeds needed to craft nanowraps ||

[worldly valve]

Would you be willing to talk about said feature?

I thino you are refering to thr nanowraps every time you mention healing salve

The only other thing is the salve bush

Which is not a crafying item

Its a seed

How are you trying to craft this "healing salve"

Are you using a fabricato

It needs modification station

Otherwise i dont know whar you are asking about

Are you asking about something related to Khara?

[trail ether]

originally this was a secret, intended to be a surprise, but I guess now I can go into detail

some days ago I had a dream involving a large cave under the dunes, like a magma chamber, that being the driving force behind its extensive network of heat vents

topographically it resembled something like that final scene in outer wilds (the vortex one), or that large storm drain system under tokyo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Area_Outer_Underground_Discharge_Channel

but more irregular obviously

and with a bottom made of lava

this was going to be the source of a new material, as well as a new progression milestone

[worldly valve]

I can see why that was a little bit ambitious hahaha

That is a really cool concept

[trail ether]

this was way outside my map creation abilities, and well beyond that which reef/void editor could handle too https://i.imgur.com/LF5SM4S.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/vmVPuBl.jpeg

the player's discovery of this area was supposed to be an accident

you go to one of the vent clusters for azurite and then look down

and what stares back at you is a deep chasm

there is a movie from a few decades ago involving a volcano appearing inside LA (perhaps most famous for a scene near the end where a guy jumps out of a subway train into a lava flow and just melts), and it features several glimpses down a giant fissure that will ultimately become the volcano

just this deep crack whose bottom is well beyond sight

kind of like what I think most people imagine a fault line looks like

well that visual has always stuck with me, and it is what I wanted the player to see if they looked down

[worldly valve]

That would be pretty damn cool

But yeah from.my rough understanding of the map editing and the tricks ive sewn to make it work

That would be beyond a little hard

[fiery fiber]

That sounds pretty amazing. Save it for sub 2 lol! 😋

[trail ether]

so I have a serious softlock problem

this is technically possible in vanilla, but C2C greatly aggravates it

namely, there are multiple mechanisms by which you can trap yourself in a deep base from which you cannot survive a return trip, if you either plan very poorly or get very unlucky

this happened to me twice in the span of ten minutes from two separate mechanisms (the aforementioned bad luck)

basically C2C adds many "survival timers", ie resources (not necesarily literal resource items, but some "pool" of a consumable value, think eg seaglide battery, remaining kharaa treatment time, liquid breathing primary tank level, etc) which can, under the right circumstances, run out while you are too deep to get back to the surface with your now-much-reduced capabilities

in my case first the primary liqbr tank ran out while I was in the cove, and I almost (4s to spare) did not have enough in the supply tank to make it back to another base, then ten minutes later, when I had returned to my home base, refilled the primary tank and then returned to the cove, my kharaa treatment ran out, and the massively reduced o2 efficiency trapped me in the LR again

and I mentioned seaglide battery as another possible way this can happen - what if your seaglide battery runs out while you are deep in the LR, too deep to swim out at basic swim speed?

there are so many ways this can happen that I do not see a way to prevent it on this end

the only thing I can think of is something extremely heavy-handed and abusable, like giving you teleport-to-surface

which is easy enough to justify in-universe - co-opted warper tech or something - but has MASSIVE balance and exploit problems

and though i can tack on limitations and costs, there is no safe middle ground; either you can teleport too easily and it is a massive exploit, or it is so limited that you can still end up trapped

for example any literal cost is a non-option as you might find yourself in a deep base but without ability to pay said cost (eg without some required item)

and requiring anything having been built is similarly problematic - what if you did not before you got trapped?

i also thought of the ability to pull the saving items from another base to you (which would also potentially be a useful way to solve the frequent aggravation of having inadvertently left some tool behind at some far-flung base)

but there is no guarantee that there is such a saving item available anywhere to pull, and for some those are themselves exploits (notably power cells)

and again that logically should require some sort of built infrastructure but what if the player just never did that

[normal rune]

Yeah.... I almost had myself locked in the Lost River for just that reason. I don't have any specific idea for a fix, but can vouch for the risk

[worldly valve]

i too diud it, though it was paretialally from player error, tho i didnt realise double liquid breathing tanks would be super bad

as they drain when in inventory

in the river

i believe i managed to make a tiny base, make it my new spawn point, and then unmade it

which for teleported me to pod

[fiery fiber]

Maybe reduce the penalties slightly? Or could you create a mechanicthat allows you to 'hack' your sea glider and override something or other that gives you back 15% power but will then destroy glider and battery so you have to make them again. Would that be too expensive?

[normal rune]

A sort of "battery overload" that causes the battery to squeeze out a tiny bit more, at the cost of it then being useless and/or risky to use.... An interesting idea, I could agree with that

[stoic pendant]

The thing needed to stop Khara for some time

[floral oriole]

There are always console commands available like "oxygen" or "invisible" to help you salvage your game when you screw up so badly.

[worldly valve]

Maybe check deeper

[stoic pendant]

-.-

if I check deeper i'll end up in ||uranus||

[stoic pendant]

is it in the new survivor base in the ||blood kelp zone||?

[worldly valve]

||is there any alience facilities you havent been to?||

[stoic pendant]

bloodkelb maybe

also every in the lost river obv

[stoic pendant]

now I went there

[worldly valve]

|| research facility||

[stoic pendant]

tf how

[worldly valve]

Your liquid breathing still qorks

It just is limted to about 75 seconds

If you arent on hardcore you could do suicide scouting runs

The moth also has a limited lifespan in the river

The river is def a place you can get soft locked through a fee different scenarios, its a rough time

Im uncertain of what reikas intended river method is

I think its easiest to make several small bases, most of them air bubbles

But its very slow and feela rather brute forcr

[trail ether]

this will help reduce the odds of an accidental softlock at least https://i.imgur.com/PJLpTVC.jpeg

[modest shoal]

WRT soft locking, have you considered a consumable that adds a small amount of resource and has some limitations built in, e.g. a long crafting time, large size, crafting cooldown (if that's even possible)? "Emergency Kharaa treatment" or some such

just make it obnoxious to use, so its something you'd only use if you were actually soft locked rather than a replacement for the intended resource

[trail ether]

well the new meters definitely help https://i.imgur.com/D2is7nW.jpeg

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/un5n79B.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/ZBZNm0y.jpeg

I have yet to add the ingame trigger aside from a command

and yet to write the ingame justification for it

but think some ultraexperimental and frankly shitty warp tech, leveraging something learned from warpers, and with some rather unsavory side-effects

[modest shoal]

ah, if its teleporting you to the surface, maybe make it take long enough that it would only work inside a base and then like a 5 or even 10 minute debuff on your oxygen, halving it?

[trail ether]

https://i.imgur.com/nIrFyKb.png

this is the current condition

[trail ether]

it gives a 20 minute debuff on movement - speed and control - vision, health (you take 250% damage) and pressure resistance, and you spawn with 5 health

and can only be done from a base, while having nothing but core survival/mobility equipment in your inventory

I decided against including the vomiting effect that some plants will give you

[trail ether]

also it dumps you at a random safe position in the map, at the surface

so you might well have a 1500m slog (at 30% speed) back to home base

this is part of the deterrent

[worldly valve]

It might be nice to have slightly more than 5 hp in case of random fish attack on spawn

[modest shoal]

I'm not a fan of the drunk debuff myself, I'd think that o2 thing you have commented out is better, but it is supposed to be punishing so ehh

[trail ether]

odds of that are remote

remmber it only puts you in safe biomes

some do have aggressive species but nothing too dangerous or numerous, and rarely right at the surface either

[worldly valve]

Im just thinking for hardcore run

Tho tbh the whole river is a giant hardcore ending area lol

[stoic pendant]

Yeah I think imma just get the cyclops first and then pray the power lasts long enough or ill just get one or two depht upgrades and the heat to electricity module and then recharge in the lava zone I think thats how I did it last time at least

Btw are there any significant hints in the game to go there? I mean I dont like to read through all the logs and stuff so definetly my fault if I miss stuff but it seems a bit far fetched to think of going to the ||research facillity|| I mean yeah for experienced players who know the map and its pois its probably something to think about but its still a far journey

[worldly valve]

Tbh that sounds like more work than my suggestion😅 but go fer it

[worldly valve]

here is a better deperatiuoin strat

it;'s gonna be super costly

build 2, you could try 3 but im not sure it will work, liquid breathing tanks

the second(and third) tank will drain rapidly in the river

BUT it will still lety you swap to get that extra bit o time

i think 3 tanks should work

but they will all be near/at0 by the end of it

and i mean their secondary tank

because the river is mean and drains it away

im pretty sure it;s because reika did not want people to build multple tanks to victory

but it might do to get you where you need

i would still use 1 or 2 small basic bases maybe

you could also temperarily abandon a seamoth

since it will drain

but it is an air bubble thatwill get yopu far

[trail ether]

I have wrestled with this question myself to some degree

how much "knows the vanilla map" should I assume and design around

I typically lean to the "pretend the player does not know any of it"

even going so far as to add things like "mystery scanner room pings" for thingsl ike alien bases that experienced players know are there

but at times this has felt...silly, given the fact that most of the core areas are things all C2C players will know

[forest valve]

works well

[normal rune]

I prefer the "assume player doesn't know anything" simply because I'm the type that typically won't go back and replay something (even with modifications to change the experience) until I've forgotten most of it

[silk pond]

just wondering when will the next update come out as i have seen a lot of people talking about it?

[trail ether]

I want to do it asap

with the dunes cave cancelled i suppose I can probably get it out very soon

my todo list is still long

but most of the things are not huge tasks

and/or are not important to get into the very next update

stuff like this

and

most of those are either annoying issues with new features or nice-to-haves that are more long-term ideas

a few are "must finish" though

eg the two new PDA prompt VOs

[stoic pendant]

seems like a pretty good strat, I think I'll simplify it a bit and then go for the seamoth sealent module

[stoic pendant]

yeah true but the jump from "the overworld" into the areas of the lost river does seem pretty huge and with the power draining one tends to think theyve missed something elsewhere to go around that - same with the liquid breathing system and the efficiency penalty

[stoic pendant]

Ive just looked at my previous playthrough, so you have to go to the ||gargantuan leviathan skeleton in the river|| to get the ||seamoth sealant|| module but to even make that you need to get iridium which I believe is only found in the ||lava zone|| right? And between that you should best get the anti khara infection thing from the ||research facillity|| which is also pretty deep into ||the lost river||. So you have to get there without a lot of oxygen, limited inventory space because of the multiple liquid breathing devices + the materials needed for base construction. Then you need to somehow power the bases so you can refill your liquid breathing oxygen tanks which is really hard because theres no source of energy in the lost river so I tried to use power transmitter but those behave rather wierdly when you have connected a base because then they dont really want to transmit any more. Imo you should be able to get the seamoth sealant module a lot easier or at least reasonably hard not pls-unalive-me-I-cant-do-this-anymore hard so you can get the ressources required for the cyclops to push into the lava zone.
Just a small critique correct me if I got things wrong

[cerulean nest]

Is this mod coming to 2.0 anytime soon? I'm asking because I want my first playthrough to be with this mod and wanted to hold off playing until it does

[forest valve]

iirc it will be, or start getting updated once nautilus is out of beta

dont think that's anytime soon

[worldly valve]

Its worth going through as is. Maybe just wait for the next update reika is doin atm

It wont be 2.0 but you will be fine withoit that

[normal rune]

if you're talking first playthrough of Subnautica being with this mod, not sure I'd recommend that. great mod, but definitely up there on the difficulty and having the experience of playing through the game normally would be nice

[forest valve]

oh yes bad idea to have thsis mod as your first playthrough imo

atleast go through 3 or morr

you will have a general consensus for all the importants

[cerulean nest]

i already played for like 10 hours

and i basically explored half the map already

i found vanilla too easy

well not even vanilla since i installed a harder recipies mod too

[trail ether]

I do agree that C2C will be quite a trial by fire for someone genuinely new to SN

that said refer to the discussion last night about assumption of player knowledge

you might actually be in a position to make the "assume the player knows nothing" actually pan out

[worldly valve]

yeah just rervert to legacy and give it a while

it might be rough but

itle be okay

tho wait for the update

[trail ether]

I am going to try to get the update out mid week

[trail ether]

can someone test something with the current public build of C2C

go into the ILZ corridor (the entrance tunnel connecting to the cove, not the one connected to the big pit below the ghost leviathan by the koosh/mountain entrance), just a few dozen meters in, wearing the electrochemical suit, not the reinforced

from full health, how quickly do you die of heat damage

as a bonus, if you have the runtime editor mod, before you die, pause the game (either with the esc menu or by running speed 0), open runtime editor, and run the following in the REPL console: WaterTemperatureSimulation.main.GetTemperature(Player.main.transform.position)

it should spit out a number around 90

[fiery fiber]

Geez I don't have any of that stuff yet. Anybody else?

[worldly valve]

ill dso it tonight

[worldly valve]

Im also not really there but i can find the console commanda

[loud python]

I feel every time someone asks for C2C 2.0 Reika pushes back working on that one month at least lol.

I want my really large rooms tho T.T

[worldly valve]

Reika wants the 2.0 mod tthing to be out of beta

Which there is a chance never happens and i dont thinj ive heard anything of it being ready

[solar vortex]

what does decoration rating do...?

[worldly valve]

I havent the foggiest clue

[normal rune]

boosts efficiency/speed i believe. i know it makes farming faster if it flags the room as agricultural and you get a high percentage

[trail ether]

depends on the room type

it makes leisure rooms more restful

it makes work rooms more productive and less demanding of your body

[worldly valve]

Sorry i didnt get on laat night

I was feeling kinda rough last night

So i just played antimatter dimensions

Watched my numbers go brrr

Am feeling better today

[trail ether]

update coming imminently

And released

https://i.imgur.com/68KFARJ.png

[worldly valve]

Oh neat

[worldly valve]

Well

Time to boot up hardcore

There are new things so i will die to air, as always

[solar vortex]

what changed

[trail ether]

a lot

it is a huge update, with many MANY fixes, including a couple for base-game issues, and major progression expansion to C2C, along with native De-Extinction support and many QoL features; these changes are so dramatic, and involve worldgen and unlocks in so many places, that I strongly recommend a new save, even if technically you can probably continue with an older one

[fiery fiber]

so confirming we can add deextinction now?

[worldly valve]

whats a pinning recipe

mopd for legacy

[worldly valve]

i lied, going vanilla

because lazy

lool

[worldly valve]

Like not hardcore/hardmose vanilla

To be clear

[fiery fiber]

Two hours in. And so far smooth sailing

[forest valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

now time to see if subnautica will run on a decade old machine...

yes

barely passes the recommended cpu thats crazy

gpu is way above recommended

[normal rune]

Any word on if the new update changed anything with the laggy wrecks? I know that was a thing with no clear explanation on the "why is this happening" and was hard to pin down

[forest valve]

not sure, but it did also change progression alot as reika said

[forest valve]

.

new save very recommended

tho it MIGHTbe fine to do ur current save

[brazen dawn]

@trail ether I seem to have an fps issue i cant get more then 30fps not sure if anyone else has this issue i also made sure it was an issue with c2c by deleting every mod and also deleting the mod itself.

[forest valve]

https://reikakalseki.github.io/subnautica/index.html from this link yeah?

[worldly valve]

Ye

It has emerg warp

[fiery fiber]

Yes downloaded from github release

Still in the shallows just gathering for basic equipment. Haven't noticed the progression changes yet

[forest valve]

yeah yeah i saw

[stoic pendant]

W

[trail ether]

working on a major QoL improvement right now https://i.imgur.com/lUkkWI0.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/MDnKPQj.jpeg

so currently all my custom SM modules hijack the torpedo interaction volumes https://i.imgur.com/TRLCUIj.jpeg

however this means that not only can you not access them while the seamoth is docked in a moonpool, but if you have multiple storage-bearing modules you can only open one, as the system does not support multiple (those two silo colliders both invoke the same seamoth code that I added hooks to)

so I am going to try and make it so that a storage box appears on the seamoth with the plankton scoop, allowing it to be accessed that way, as if it was an ordinary storage

the heatsink launcher I will leave torpedo-based, since that makes sense

[floral oriole]

Is decorations mod now downright forbidden to use alongside c2c - that's what I've figured reading an error log? I only ever wanted it for smart tv and lamp, didn't think they could break anything in c2c, was I wrong?

[trail ether]

the new decorations are not the problem

the problem is that it adds recipes for tons and tons of things, ostensibly so you can use them as decorations

[floral oriole]

Well, I've always used to disable all that in the mod's config tool. My guess you've closed that to save yourself from constant pestering of "why can't I find this or that" etc. ?

[trail ether]

and the need to try and keep up with any potential updates to that mod

[trail ether]

it works https://i.imgur.com/Au4rRbF.jpeg

[brazen dawn]

@trail ether Hey i figured out the fps issue it only seems to affect Creative mode.

[trail ether]

I do not have special code running in creative

[forest valve]

before

after

[trail ether]

yes that is how you know you are hidden

the alternative idea is an HZD-style "visibility indicator" on the HUD, but this is less obtrusive in default play

[forest peak]

how am i suppose to unlock seamoth mk1 depth blueprint, the one in aurora blows up and having a moon pool and vehicle mod station doesnt unlock it. tried searching for awhile but no answer yet

[trail ether]

you will find out

[forest peak]

yea i couldnt be asked going on a wild goose chase, just spawned in the module

[silk pond]

how do i update c2c

[silk pond]

u won’t get far in the mod with that mentality. the point of the mod is to search the whole map

[forest peak]

not all of us have 8 hours to scour the seabed for some research fragments. i wanted to play subnautica with extra content not go on a scavenger hunt. I've always used a wiki with subnautica when I cant find something and the mod wiki has already helped me alot and the things I cant find on it I'll just brute force to work.

[worldly valve]

Oh no

[worldly valve]

Tbh man i dont think this mod is for you.

Feel free to prove me wrong n all but

If you dont wanna be doing any combing of biomes for things

You will find the loop here unenjoyable

[worldly valve]

This mod still seems a strange choice of a mod. A big part of this mod is exploring. The journey is worth m9re than the destination

This mod is easily 60-100 hours depending on how things go

[forest peak]

I like the journey but I can't explore if I can't get the things I need to progress, most of the cool or new areas are unexplorable because I either don't have the right gear or vehicle (with upgrades) because I either can't find the materials or cant find the new upgrade fragments.

thats why the wiki rn is a god send since its like the only place that gives any info on where this stuff is, I still wouldn't have even entered the aurora if it weren't for the wiki.

[worldly valve]

yeah most the new areas take a bit to get to. Play the way you wish, i jkust think this is an odd mod choice for ya

things are likely more explorable than you think

[trail ether]

then play another mod if exploring and collecting things is too much to ask of you

[trail ether]

there are lots of mods out there that are just "Cool Shit™️" to jangle in front of you without any pretext of actual game design or conceptual coherency

[fiery fiber]

Argh! Went to mountain island to cheat my way to multi focus. And seeing ||frags|| which btw will scanner pick them up ... swear I've scoured ||all the caves|| but i can only find 12 of 17

Gah! Mushroom cave ptsd ... btw learned an interesting thing. Pathfinder doesn't seem to work out of water

[worldly valve]

I would assume it does

Works for the other 2 major areas pre update

[trail ether]

I thought that tool is only in BZ

[trail ether]

there are exactly as many as you need

[trail ether]

but this time should be a lot easier - it is much safer and the broken tablets spark prominently (a property which was inherited by all other broken tablets in the update)

also an update is coming shortly

[trail ether]

not even - the point is to engage your curiosity, problem-solving ability, and visual perception

unfortunately too many people either lack one or more of these or are too lazy to actually utilize them

[fiery fiber]

Cool! Guess I'll go check some more. At least now I'm good at finding those noodle plant thingies. I always had a hard time finding those before. Not anymore 😋

[fiery fiber]

Lol imagine still have to break weeks of muscle memory of popping out under the moon pool and emptying the sm before hopping back in and entering 😪

[trail ether]

update uploading right now

[fiery fiber]

It'd awesome though btw. Feels brand new and ... stressful .... again! Lotsa new things ... like the new save mechanic lol. After the initial wtf! Got into that groove 😇

[final wharf]

Just jumped into the new (1st) update and used console commands to rapidly get to the scoop and whatever my problem with it not showing up is still happening and now there is zero interaction when I pass through plankton clouds fyi. So I am down for you making changes here and hopefully it fixes whatever problem is under my hood sadly 😅

[fiery fiber]

Is it just one part that got updated or all parts need to be redownloaded?

[final wharf]

Not to be devils advocate here, that response does read as dislike for scouring the map which does strike as this being an odd mod choice but I for one can't always speak very well let alone via text. So to be fair, there are genuinely people who don't have the free time to dedicate to a proper playthrough but still want to experience what they can rather than it only being people who are just simple or lazy. Life often take precedent over being able to enjoy our free times sadly. 🫤

[trail ether]

anything that changed

[trail ether]

spawning items is never going to work

[final wharf]

Oh! So that's not reflective of if the problem is solved? I assumed that would have been an accurate way to see if the problem was persistent rather than put in the time to do another run just to hit that block again. Was gonna try again after I re-downloaded your new new update. Did you move the wreck its in? I only spawned in the scoop when I scoured the whole biome and didn't find the wreck where it was.

[fiery fiber]

Argh! Ok ... dang it! Ima build a scanner and try to find these dang frags. 14/17 and 3.5 hours! 😪

[fiery fiber]

hmmm stuck in loading screen since doing update. Even when starting a new game.

[trail ether]

what does the log say

[fiery fiber]

ok loaded back up and i can't get a log. The button is not there.

during load screen it did say something about screen credit? and then it says returning credit ... i'll try again and try to see what the message is

set wait timer credit. in upper left of screen then in center of screen says returning credit

Or actually removing credit

and still can't get log

pressing buttons I can hear seamoth sounds ... cuz I saved game inside the seamoth

[trail ether]

...button?

the log is a file

[fiery fiber]

ah nvm i'm confusing with 7dtd where there's a button for log

where do i find subnautica log again?

[pure igloo]

https://imgur.com/sG8Qvln.png
Your BepInEx log file can be found in Subnautica/BepInEx or SubnauticaZero/BepInEx depending on the game you're trying to mod. Once you've found the log file, you can just drag it into Discord to send it.

[forest valve]

here

[trail ether]

for me it is here S:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Subnautica\qmodmanager_log-Subnautica.txt

obviously your steam root dir will be different

[fiery fiber]

ok omw will check now

oops wrong one

[trail ether]

what is near the end when it freezes

[forest valve]

well, the qmm log and the bepinex log both have similar things, qmm needs bepinex to function

[fiery fiber]

Didn't freeze just runs forever. Music playing and burning aurora screen

But it says ... at wait time credit.

Then remove credit

[forest valve]

well, the way to fix this bug for 2.0 is to make a new world, save and exit the game, then open the game and enter your world

but i recommend making a backup first

[fiery fiber]

Tried that and sane thing happened

[forest valve]

just find your slot003 or wahtever save, copy it into a different folder

ah ok

[fiery fiber]

Strange cuz prior to update it was smooth like butter ... like a criminal undercover ... sorry couldn't help it

Actually I had made one mistake. I forgot to update sea to sea cuz I got phone call while updating. I had updated everything else. When I first loaded it told me sea to sea was not up to date. So I exited... and unzipped sea to sea and then that's when I started getting these errors

Ib guys I could reinstall subnautica. But I'll do that in the morning

[carmine peak]

what is sea to sea

[forest valve]

big mod

[carmine peak]

okay

how big

[forest valve]

changes the progression of the game

[carmine peak]

ok

[forest valve]

alot

[forest peak]

seamoth depth module gets deleted if you use creative after the update, interesting

[worldly valve]

i found the ear;ly thying i hate getting

sweeeet

[trail ether]

hmmm, I wonder why that might be...

[floral oriole]

Well, our woes with that module ain't over it seems. The one I've picked in Aurora has disappeared from my locker after an update. Was the way of aquiring it changed in the last update?

[forest valve]

reika did highly advise making a new world

because theres tons of progression changes, and probably more areas to explore

[trail ether]

yes

and one of the other things is that the anticheat I added in the last year is going to think a lot of legitimate things were cheated, since the progression flags were not yet implemented in old versions

[floral oriole]

I started a new game after that big update a few days ago, can I continue with it?

I've downloaded it yesterday, hope it has correct flags?

[forest valve]

was the new game with the update installed?

[floral oriole]

Obviously

[forest valve]

yeah u should be golden

[trail ether]

yes that will be fine

[floral oriole]

Thank you

[silk pond]

do i have to redownload all of the mods for the new update?

[floral oriole]

Start the game, it'll be written on the screen what mods need to be updated if any.

[solar vortex]

absurd amount of ||thalasscean cud|| at 0, 0

not that much a spoiler but ill be safe ;p

[trail ether]

I am trying to fix that

it would be easy to make it destroy itself if loose in the water but that means any time you ever drop it it is also destroyed

would people consider that an acceptable limitation?

[solar vortex]

||has anyone else found the microfilter? worried it might be bugged||

[slim veldt]

Do you think you could add a config for how deep void bubbles and the funny perhaps SiLlY void monster appear, I would really like to use some mods like Socknautica with SeaToSea?

The feature could also be helpful if you end up porting SeaToSea to 2.0 because of the massive amount of void mods that have been coming out recently like The Silence, ROTA, and Deeper Water

[trail ether]

it is not an automatic unlock

[trail ether]

socknautica is explicitly blocked

as will any other dumb gimmick mods

[slim veldt]

Alright

[trail ether]

for other "real" mods I will add compatibility as necessary, if possible

[slim veldt]

That’s good, most people I know like to mash up mods with each other so compatibility is important

[trail ether]

the integrity of the C2C experience is my primary priority

compatibility is a distinct second

and will be sacrificed as necessary, but only where necessary

[silk pond]

did u just update the mods a fer hours ago

few*

bc i updated the mod like 3 hours ago and now it is telling me that there are more updates

[solar vortex]

im not reika but yeah

[slim veldt]

Cool!

[trail ether]

no

about an hour ago and then not since yesterday

[silk pond]

ok

are any more updates coming in the near future bc i want to start a fresh playthrough

[trail ether]

there will be updates but they will not be major overhauls

[unreal flame]

i have to wonder why this keeps happening

[upper dock]

Sounds like it's time for me to try C2C again with the new major update

though, a question

where do you get ECCLibrary now since submodica is dead for good

[forest valve]

maybe add a timer?

like it only despawns after 5 minutes or something

[trail ether]

it turns out that i cannot even make it despawn

the item that appears at 000 is only "half" the item, missing most of its components

including any I add

[forest valve]

what the fuck

probably a wrong assumption, but maybe the hitbox to pick it up or some component of it is left outside of the area?

i feel like if you deleted the parent object it might get rid of it, or something, not sure, never made a unity mod

or maybe the other portion of it is still left in that area where the ||curd|| spawned

[upper dock]

oh it's also on nexus, that makes sense lol

(@ ECCLibrary)

I guess the link on the site should be changed

[solar vortex]

||was investigating why a "unidentified object" scanner room ping was out of bounds. um i think i know why i couldnt find it||

[trail ether]

my component from which I would run the code is not present

that said I did make it so that picking up floating cud would not actually grant any to your inventory

[trail ether]

oh

right

terrain patcher is a hard dependency now

not just a suggested

going to force that as of the next update

[solar vortex]

I have it tho

or I thought I did

[forest valve]

which version?

you need terrainpatcher v0.4 iirc

thats wha was listed in reika's github page for seatosea

[trail ether]

are my patch files missing

look in the mod install directory

[fiery fiber]

I got it running finally! Also noticed that configuration is gone now after today's update?

[trail ether]

no patches folder

that is the problem

ok this needs a hotfix

[trail ether]

also you want to delete that "generated" file - it is going to conflict with the "real" patches

my release does not have such a file so I do not know where you got that

ok new build uploading

[worldly valve]

hhmm seems you were receptive tro some common feedback regarding the thing

i thought i would be able to build the scanner, but it seems i lack the tech

i lok forward to learning the4 change\

[unreal flame]

every mod that was on submodica can be found at its original github page

[upper dock]

and where is that github? I looked for like 45 minutes and couldn't find any

until I found it on nexus

[unreal flame]

https://github.com/LeeTwentyThree/Lee23-LegacySubnauticaMods/tree/main

[normal frigate]

Hows the fps now with the new update?

[normal rune]

Wait, what happened to Submodica?

[unreal flame]

long story

[upper dock]

short version, owner doesn't want to be involved with the mod scene any more and took the site down

[forest valve]

not exactly

short version, owner has other more important shit to deal with than a server that costs a good amount of money to run

[upper dock]

Is that voiceline and pda hint for ||the nanolathing drones in the northern kelp forest|| new? I don't remember those but it's also been like over a year since I last played

Very cool regardless

[forest valve]

nah its old, just appears ina small part of the biome iirc

[worldly valve]

I havent really gotten to much new stuff yet

You nerfed some of the free stuff i coukd get in chests hahaha

There use to be a cuttable box at the azurite battery location, think it had a plasteel ingot maybe

The save vhange is a thing.

What may be noteabke to you reika is sometimes the save is kinfa a benefit

Tho i guess coulda been used that way anyways

[unreal flame]

Wasn’t that somewhere else

[worldly valve]

I thought the cutable box was right beside it

I know of a second plasteel ingot location, i already found it

Unless the ingot was the mushrrom

But i thought rhat was ||shaped azurite||

[trail ether]

that is in an entirely different location

[worldly valve]

Are we talking the cutable box that i thought was next to the battery?

Really it doesnt matter

Im either looked for the other free plasteel ingot found in boxes, or another axurite

I do remever a cutabke box havign an odd item in it

App these are small potators anyways luls

[fiery fiber]

Haven't tested this yet but I am recalling my prior problems. My save was I side my seamoth. Is anyone habit g problems reloading I to a save that was done in the seamoth?

I've restarted so haven't quite got back to having a seamoth yet

[worldly valve]

I havent build a seamoth yet😂😂😂

Tho i should if only for the more coneniant saving lkl

Tho im at about the point where im buulding a few random scanner rooms for techs

[normal rune]

On the old version i never had problems saving inside the moth. Haven't had a chance to restart since the update, life is chaos

[fiery fiber]

Ya save's are different now. You'll see 👀

[normal rune]

... I'm scared already lol

[worldly valve]

Its not so bad

In some cases its almost nice

Tho the reality you could always hop out and in

[worldly valve]

dragon industry wreck still broken, tho i think you said not needed now

[forest valve]

it is not

im pretty sure reika said she fixed it

she found some component in the livemixin about being able to regenerate or something

or resurrect, i forgro

[worldly valve]

was broken when i went to it again last night

i also seem to be unable to scan the plankton

[worldly valve]

Maybe its not needed anymore

[solar vortex]

how exactly does the item collector work

[carmine peak]

desintegrated, blown to shreds and deleted from existence.

[solar vortex]

i don't think muting the acu works

[solar vortex]

||where are the blood crawler larva ?????? am i dumb||

[trail ether]

it does not have its own inventory

[trail ether]

use the tools available to find it

[worldly valve]

What was in the old cutable box beside the battery

It .ust havent been very important i did find the second free plat ingot

Also can confirm the the respawning box happens in the place again still

[trail ether]

https://youtu.be/9BBJ_zqMC_0

[worldly valve]

Yeah rechecked it again, the

Wreck still doesnt repair

Also havent noticed any falling debris in a long time

I somehow was lucky enough to get 2 so far

One of em was right at the start, fell suuuuper close to me.

Second one was a bit lucky, i lost my line while search the surface from below but barely noticed the bubbles

[fiery fiber]

Are they aggressive? I dunno why but i think i saw these in BZ from de=extinction right?

[forest valve]

not

[trail ether]

there was a bug that i have a fix to release

[trail ether]

these ones are

[trail ether]

there is a coming fix for this too

[worldly valve]

Cool

Jist keepin ya reported

Oh another thing of note

Ive either found all the scannable ||tablets|| or thwy arent svanning roomable

[fiery fiber]

oh pleeease! That would help so much ... been searching for days ... and cant find the last 2 pieces

[worldly valve]

Just for the sake of asking

Habe you checked the floating rock?

I still havent really gotten to the new progreasion changes

Tho nuclear power got delayed a bit

Little sad as that makes the initial bioprocessing awesome

With the freebie core

But bioprocessor is king, always has been, aleays will be

[forest valve]

probably the second

[trail ether]

they do not appear on scanner rooms

[forest valve]

they probably need some sort of code for scanner rooms

something in the form of "is scannable?" or something

but knowing subnautica it likely isnt a boolean 💀

[trail ether]

it is trivial to make things scannable

add a ResourceTracker component

but I do not want them scannable

the whole point of things like them, or the geyser coral, or the tree bacteria, is a player-directed scavenger hunt

not "follow the HUD markers"

[forest valve]

yeah yeah thats waht im saying

you can make them scannable, but you wont

and i basically told him that not every object is instantly now scannable, it needs a component code wise to be scannable

[worldly valve]

Been lookong a few ins here and there for them

Mooostly ignoring it since i was still in tech gathering phase and i dont really need tablets foe awhilw yet

[trail ether]

I just fixed a major lag bug

[worldly valve]

Ooo noice

[upper dock]

sweet!

[fiery fiber]

What was causing it?

[fiery fiber]

Sigh ya I know. But dang these frags! I'm actually taking time away from that and doing other stuff for now. Maybe co.e up with another idea how I'm gonna try to find the last couple

At least I don't have to worry about oxygen with these

[trail ether]

plankton OnTriggerStay

specifically for base-bound plankton

spawning over a base made it intersect hundreds of colliders

so every phys frame it was searching every one of those for several components to see if it was a player/vehicle/creature/etc to react to

also unrelated I added the ability to throw salt blocks - the C2C "salt ingot" - into the AE rock crusher

it produces one random material from the filter drop table

thus allowing you to void surplus salt - of which you will have a ton - and get a little extra material, plus adding some value to actually collecting "wild" salt, since there are things in that drop table not obtainable via anything other than natural filtering, which is slow

[trail ether]

each base "structural piece" is composed of many many sub-objects, for example a I tube has not just a tube but all the various toggleable panels that get swapped out based on attachments and connection states, and each sub-object is usually multiple colliders

and then you have the legs, each of which is two colliders (a sphere for the ball joint at the attachment plus a capsule for the shaft)

and on top of that you have all the things in a base

and all of these are ultimately, if indirectly, parented to the base, meaning that A) it is a long walk up the object hierarchy and B) you will reach a very large and very complex root object once you hit the "top level" GameObject

[fiery fiber]

Gah! Holy moly! Translation ... less lag😋

[worldly valve]

oh my\

nerfed the suppressiomn module hard i see

[worldly valve]

ah how im sad uyou nerfed the freebie pods to 5 haha\

alas

its not enough to craft a rebreather

tho i could have had enough

i made trhe suppression module

omg i triggued sunbeam finally

wqhat even is the trigger for that i wonder

[forest valve]

iirc its after 5 days of visiting the gun island

[worldly valve]

not in c2c

[forest valve]

right

[trail ether]

not at all

[trail ether]

??

[trail ether]

how the fuck did you unlock, muhc less craft, this before even the sunbeam

or do you mean something very different by "suppression module"

[worldly valve]

the plankton

used to be more i think freebie

noise suppressioon

the noise suppression isnt really hard to make?

yeah i dont think anythin hard locks it looking at it

there also is a free advanced wirign kit in a hole somewhre

as well as i found a second one in a capsul

azurite is tedious to farm for sure

[worldly valve]

|| i just remembered the ghosties couldnt see my moth 2 feet from it before lol ||

||they actually bit me a couple times now ||

[worldly valve]

The unlocking was the easy bit. It just requires laser cutter n upgrade

One day i may find some of the new stuff😂

I need microfilter to proceed so next play session im picking a biome and combing

Aurora about the crash abd boy do i want all thatbcopper wire

Also noteably there are 2 free plasteel ingots

[trail ether]

you need a half dozen places to make it and to go all over three biomes

how did you make that before even having a seamoth

[warm remnant]

||How many blood crawler nests in the game? The one I have found contains deepshroomes but on image in broodmother entry there is larvae in place of deepshroomes. So I assume this is a bug. Is it only me or anyone else have this bug?||

[trail ether]

did you start a new save with the big update

[warm remnant]

yes

I created new save right now and its the same

[forest valve]

are you saving and reloading your world without closing the game?

[warm remnant]

no

[forest valve]

good

[trail ether]

it worked in my save

check the log for Exception

[worldly valve]

Seamoth is inconveniant to use most of the time

I have azure seaglide

Took mt a bit to get all the moonpool frags tkk

But also i couldnt even make deptch module 1

Still cant lol

And 200 depth seamon is uhh

Idk not very useful😂

Nit compared to 2 ultra high capacity tanks and thr azure seaglide

[warm remnant]

Found 4 matches

[trail ether]

what are the stacktraces for them

like a series of indented lines beginning with at

eg

Win32Exception: ApplicationName='SubnauticaMonitor.exe', CommandLine='34196 10 C:/Users/Reika/AppData/Local/Temp/Unknown Worlds/Subnautica\monitor.in C:/Users/Reika/AppData/Local/Temp/Unknown Worlds/Subnautica\monitor.out', CurrentDirectory='', Native error= The system cannot find the file specified.

  at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithCreateProcess (System.Diagnostics.ProcessStartInfo startInfo) [0x002dc] in <ae22a4e8f83c41d69684ae7f557133d9>:0 
  at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start () [0x0003a] in <ae22a4e8f83c41d69684ae7f557133d9>:0 
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
  at MonitorLauncher.Start () [0x00133] in <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7>:0```

[worldly valve]

Its worth noting ive done 2 roughly balfish playthroughs and a full one

I have a bit of a route

Most of it involving the swet amazing thing you made

Called the azurite battery of godspeed

[warm remnant]

first:
Win32Exception: ApplicationName='SubnauticaMonitor.exe', CommandLine='33836 10 C:/Users/alleb/AppData/Local/Temp/Unknown Worlds/Subnautica\monitor.in C:/Users/alleb/AppData/Local/Temp/Unknown Worlds/Subnautica\monitor.out', CurrentDirectory='', Native error= Не удается найти указанный файл.

at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithCreateProcess (System.Diagnostics.ProcessStartInfo startInfo) [0x002dc] in <ae22a4e8f83c41d69684ae7f557133d9>:0
at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start () [0x0003a] in <ae22a4e8f83c41d69684ae7f557133d9>:0
at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
at MonitorLauncher.Start () [0x00133] in <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7>:0

[warm remnant]

Second:
ArgumentException: The Object you want to instantiate is null.
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x0004b] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x0000d] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[T] (T original, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation, System.Boolean awake) [0x00001] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0
at EditorModifications.Instantiate (UnityEngine.GameObject prefab, UnityEngine.Transform parent, UnityEngine.Vector3 localPos, UnityEngine.Quaternion localRot, System.Boolean awake) [0x00000] in <96e7a0f5e8ab4082be73ddac2f91bfd5>:0
at UWE.Utils.InstantiateDeactivated (UnityEngine.GameObject prefab, UnityEngine.Vector3 localPosition, UnityEngine.Quaternion localRotation) [0x00000] in <96e7a0f5e8ab4082be73ddac2f91bfd5>:0
at SMLHelper.V2.MonoBehaviours.EntitySpawner+<SpawnAsync>d__2.MoveNext () [0x000ef] in <21ae6a9b90624ee6a507253882306786>:0
at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00027] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0

[warm remnant]

Third:
NullReferenceException
at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Component.get_transform(UnityEngine.Component)
at ReikaKalseki.Ecocean.GlowOilTag.Update () [0x00557] in <8620dff0c8ec4b8d9226fdf4475e7c47>:0

[warm remnant]

Fourth:
DirectoryNotFoundException: Could not find a part of the path "I:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Subnautica\SNAppData\SavedGames\slot0001\CSpawns.dat".
at System.IO.FileStream..ctor (System.String path, System.IO.FileMode mode, System.IO.FileAccess access, System.IO.FileShare share, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.Boolean anonymous, System.IO.FileOptions options) [0x00164] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at System.IO.FileStream..ctor (System.String path, System.IO.FileMode mode, System.IO.FileAccess access, System.IO.FileShare share, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.IO.FileOptions options, System.String msgPath, System.Boolean bFromProxy, System.Boolean useLongPath, System.Boolean checkHost) [0x00000] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.FileStream..ctor(string,System.IO.FileMode,System.IO.FileAccess,System.IO.FileShare,int,System.IO.FileOptions,string,bool,bool,bool)
at System.IO.StreamReader..ctor (System.String path, System.Text.Encoding encoding, System.Boolean detectEncodingFromByteOrderMarks, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.Boolean checkHost) [0x00067] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at System.IO.StreamReader..ctor (System.String path, System.Text.Encoding encoding, System.Boolean detectEncodingFromByteOrderMarks, System.Int32 bufferSize) [0x00000] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at System.IO.StreamReader..ctor (System.String path, System.Boolean detectEncodingFromByteOrderMarks) [0x0000d] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at System.IO.StreamReader..ctor (System.String path) [0x00000] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.StreamReader..ctor(string)
at System.IO.File.OpenText (System.String path) [0x00000] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0

[warm remnant]

at System.IO.File.ReadAllLines (System.String path) [0x00000] in <567df3e0919241ba98db88bec4c6696f>:0
at ReikaKalseki.DIAlterra.SpawnedItemTracker.handleLoad () [0x00029] in <a83aea2aee824ab3bde88344f2106611>:0
at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
at SMLHelper.V2.Patchers.IngameMenuPatcher.InvokeLoadEvents (System.String sceneName) [0x00016] in <21ae6a9b90624ee6a507253882306786>:0
at (wrapper dynamic-method) uGUI_SceneLoading.DMD<uGUI_SceneLoading::BeginAsyncSceneLoad>(uGUI_SceneLoading,string)
at uGUI_MainMenu+<StartNewGame>d__13.MoveNext () [0x001d9] in <b20a3a5ada624fe2a1501d935cca65f7>:0
at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00027] in <11d76d5f2da344218c391ad1f20978b4>:0

[trail ether]

this one is a worldgen failure but I doubt it is related

the others are of no consequence

[normal frigate]

@trail ether C2C seems to be bugged

I have a friend encountering this issue

Heres their log

[forest valve]

CLIMB LADDER

PLEASE

I BEG OF YOU TO CLIB THE FUCKING LADDER

[trail ether]

they did not install it properly

that only happens when you install incorrectly

[normal frigate]

Ive looked at their log and everything seems fine

[worldly valve]

How does the mod file look?

[trail ether]

and what about versions

[normal frigate]

Sad thing is, it doesnt even let you

[worldly valve]

Are there subfolders within the mod folders

[normal frigate]

Latest from your GitHub website

[trail ether]

did they pile in a ton of 2.0 mods like most people who have others report problems on their behalf do

[normal frigate]

Nope

[worldly valve]

Oh reika, whats the mod you use for pinning recioes in legacy

[normal frigate]

When C2C stopped loading the issue also stopped

[trail ether]

ok put this somewhere it can be read in its entirety without downloading

[forest valve]

blueprint tracker

[normal frigate]

Kk

[forest valve]

ive looked through the log myself just now, can confrim all the mods have a mod.json

[normal frigate]

Okay so it turns out the decoration mod loaded and was causing it

Weird.

[forest valve]

even in the right version that shit breaks

how the hell

[normal frigate]

Afaik deco mod was always blocked

[trail ether]

no I only recently started blocking it

[normal frigate]

Then how did it even load??

[trail ether]

did they try loading into a world even after getting a big red warning

[trail ether]

nothing stops you from just clicking past the warning and trying to continue anyway

[normal frigate]

They dont have any red warning

True

[forest valve]

ask him if he had a big warning

[normal frigate]

but the other mods that are blocked will just make C2C fail to load

[trail ether]

yes, and the same here

that is what that warning is

[normal frigate]

interesting

But alrighty

Gonna try out the new update soon, praying that fps isnt below 40 this time

[trail ether]

there is another one coming today

with a lot of big fixes

[normal frigate]

Any eta of what time? Ill hold off until then

If not then I understand

[trail ether]

a few hours probably

[worldly valve]

What drivea me wingy is how hard my gpu runs to run this😂😂😂

My 2080 super just tebds to sit at lile 80-90%😂

I havent run into any of the lag issues this playthrough at all, mostly

There are a few areas where its mildly choppy but only barely noticable

Doesnt even looks like the fps drops, i dont know what to call it

[carmine peak]

CLIMB 🖱️ ladder (x8)

is c2c for sn 2.0?

[coral dagger]

it is not

reika may eventually update it once nautilis is out of beta

[carmine peak]

nautilus is beta?

[coral dagger]

apparently so, you can search this channel to see what she says about it

[carmine peak]

okay lemme hibernate for 4 years when nautilus is out of beta

or maybe 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, nin- days.

[worldly valve]

Just play it on 1.0

There are two semi nice things afaik in 2.0

The big room

And the air bladder acually being good and not qorthless

It is so funny how its slowet than seamoth luls

[carmine peak]

I can't

anyways

[trail ether]

release uploading

[normal rune]

Why not?

[coral dagger]

there's loads of fixes to land movement, torch out while sprinting, seaglide light/map toggling etc

the qol fixes make a massive difference, the actual new features less so

though for c2c i can imagine the large room would be super handy

[carmine peak]

Can't switch versions

[normal rune]

Epic?

[worldly valve]

It could mess somrone up a little depending on how they encounter plasteel

But fsir on some others

I actuwlly vaguely recall the seaglide being a bit better on land for sprinting

Tho land portions are very small n short so never considered it much

[worldly valve]

I dont think any of the chamges are truly life changing

Tho tbh i did use the air bladder hahaha

[normal frigate]

Latest C2C update doesnt seem to be working at all

hm.

`[QModManager:ERROR] The following mods failed during patching:

• Ecocean (ReikaKalseki.Ecocean)
  [QModManager:ERROR] The following mods had no patch methods to run:
• SeaToSea (ReikaKalseki.SeaToSea)`

Okay, I think I found my problem

@trail ether
{ "Radiant Depths", true }, //TODO id might be wrong, also might be 2.0 Radiant depths is for 2.0, yea

[worldly valve]

how did you fix it?

i too am having issues

[normal frigate]

I seemed to have forgotten to install Aqueous Engineering

[worldly valve]

i reintalled it all again

https://pastebin.com/SLHHHvFJ

[trail ether]

this looks like DLL compat issues

also try the new build I just uploaded

[unreal flame]

Last I checked it is still impossible to execute a Trojan through Notepad

[icy relic]

I wouldnt put any trojan on anything you can safely open that log 😭

[normal frigate]

some people just dont trust then which is fine ig

[icy relic]

Completely understandable

[worldly valve]

thouight i did grab the new one

re downloaded

still borken

idk

dll isdsues

wiollm look into

[carmine peak]

I have trust issues bc when I installed my first mc texture pack and turned it on my computer broke for a month, and from then I always use stuff like Virus total to check if anything is bad about a file.

even sn mods

[worldly valve]

https://pastebin.com/eqXceT1p

being overly paranoid online ia rarely harmful

occasioanlly someone will get all offended at your lack of trust

[trail ether]

oh

did I accidentally add a hard dependency on DeE

[fiery fiber]

Is the power cell on seamoths supposed be be unremovable? I can't seem to take it out to replace it

[worldly valve]

DeE?

[worldly valve]

Might only work in the dock

Tho...that sounds wrong unless it changed

[forest valve]

deextiction

[worldly valve]

Cheers

Ill download that tonight

[fiery fiber]

NVM .. i died and on restart it's working again. I also noticed water bottles I drank were not despawning from inventory. It's an old bug I've seen before.

I THINK it has something to do with the items you get from chests under alien gun base. i've also had issues where I try to use those storage boxes and they disappear

[forest valve]

the texture was not, you can't drink the bottle anymore

happens with food too

[worldly valve]

From the items in chests

9r jot chests sorry

Lockers

You stikk eat/drink em

Inventory just bugs for a bit

@trail ether i also totally forgot where sealed fabric was. I thought it was at 15, which is why i made the suppressiin

[trail ether]

when that bug is active you cannot use the middle mouse interact

I have noticed that

or maybe it is just battery swaps in general

[normal frigate]

You can only save in the lifepod and seabases now, is that a new feature?

Its cool

[trail ether]

yes

[normal frigate]

loveeeeee it

[trail ether]

people would not stop doing suicide runs

so I put an end to that

[normal frigate]

Do I have to update all the other libs after the new bug fix today?

[trail ether]

i am going to upload a fix for the DeE issue soon

[normal frigate]

Might be a long shot reika, but would it be possible for you to limit how many of the de-extinction fish can spawn in at once without affecting the triangle ones you changed

because just trying to experience C2C with de-extinction is giving me 30 fps

there are filtorbs EVERYWHERE

[upper dock]

yeah I noticed a completely nonsense amount of filtorbs

I went into one cave and there were straight up 20 of them smashing against each other and a wall

[trail ether]

I did not touch them at all

that said i can probably reduce their spawn rate

[normal frigate]

thank you so much!!

i wanted to see the new features and with this fps + the stutters..

[upper dock]

yeah it might be good to reduce the spawnrate of the DeE prey fish globally, I've noticed there's an insane amount of all of them

[normal frigate]

Ribbon rays are now overspawning in the caves

I mean you could introduce a command to wipe all de-extinction creatures

[worldly valve]

Ironically this has been very helpful as a feature for me😂

Some of my biggesr time sinks in subnautica is dying with shit on me

But since i have to reload, it protects me from losing like a seanoth n stuff

Does kill my suicide run plan in thr river tho will acknowledge

[finite pollen]

what be this?

[normal frigate]

Sea to sea is a progress expansion mod

Also features more complicated recipes, new recipes, new creatures, new plants, new biomes, new story locations

For legacy only for now

[finite pollen]

Huh

Big boy

Big boy project

[worldly valve]

Its the biggest completed state mod, tho reika has been doing some inspired edits lately

It noteable adds some puzzle elelements and supwer increases the required exploring and crafting

While not ever item is needed still

Its more rebust

And thjnfs are often more useful

I do think it is harder than some people here think

I know outer wilds was a huge inspiration

Outer wilds is a hard game that many people struggle with at times, even if most wkll eventually figure it out

C2c is a decent step harder

[fiery fiber]

Is it normal for plankton to keep spawning all over my base? I've been killed about 4 times by it 😪

[trail ether]

yes, in some cases

[normal frigate]

any new builds?

[trail ether]

I have been having nonstop problems

by the time I was shown the DeE dependency I was already in the middle of a major feature that took hours and hours to make work right

and then it turns out my DeE fix is not even working

[normal frigate]

Ah that sucks to hear

[trail ether]

ok it is QMM's fault

QMM iterates all classes in the DLL, searching for the entrypoint methods

in doing so it shits itself on classes that are not parseable due to depending on references not present at runtime

normally this referencing is not a problem as long as those classes are not accessed unless the referent is present, but QMM blindly scans everything

[fiery fiber]

Is it related to ||mushrooms|| possibly?

[trail ether]

slightly but not directly

also a build is uploading

[finite pollen]

SHROOMS

[fiery fiber]

dang it! It prolly has something to do with ||how much i've planted|| dang it! And now I gotta move all the planters away from my hatch 😛

[normal frigate]

Power just went out because of a storm so kiss all my progress goodbye

[worldly valve]

Shoulda saved more broski but also sadlife

[fiery fiber]

I dunno ib think there a cooldown on saves, cuz I keep going back to saves fast before when I did them. Believe me cuz im freaking dying alot right now. Can't get my stupid base started cuz freaking plankton infestation!

[unreal flame]

if you can't keep yourself from butting into conversations to say something random and meaningless, you probably won't be here for much longer

[forest valve]

bro just wanna act like he part of the team 💔

[icy relic]

Can you not use the creature extinct mod to reduce the spawns? There is a percentage on its configuration

[finite pollen]

Na, I just saw someone talking about mushrooms and I wanted to joke about psychedelics

Would be kinda funny to add that as a secret thing in the mod tho, new item, edible shroom parts, which makes your screen wonky

[carmine peak]

mushy rooms in the degasi base in jellyshroom caves

[worldly valve]

ive had 2 weird plankton deaths myself now

or something

it weas weird

nothing is glowing by my base

and them boom

constant damage

cannot escape

not herer this time

it came back with a vengence

[carmine peak]

I wonder how breathing fluid tastes like

[worldly valve]

it did damage suuuper fast

60% in a second

im not sure the trigger

but it wont be there when i reload

it seems to happen after i save

but again, not certain that is thr trigger

i also have had it happen when leaving via hatch

havent had it leaving via pol

its never there when i reload

ive had it hapen twice randomly swiming around

and it's hyper damaging

can confirm gone afain

fuckin weird as shit

i think bug

im not neare leviathans

i mean im i could pull a reeaper to hang out if i wanted my base to be awful but even that would be a pain in the ass

didnt trigger on save/hatch this time

this shits more damaging than a reaper bite

but on the other news you did fix the dee hard req

so thats neat

this is both a better and worse problem to have

i went up n down a ladder before leavin g through hatch

also ate food

[upper dock]

I'm getting C2C failing to load on latest update from the github. I think this is the right log file? https://hastebin.com/share/lelumuvufo.yaml

[finite pollen]

The ability to constantly rescan mushrooms and have it play the deep rock galactic ″mushrooms mushrooms″ line over and over would be pretty funny as well

[carmine peak]

funni

but how does the breathing fluid taste like xd

top 10 unanswered questions about ctc

I feel like it may taste like these medicines they give to children, bitter, gross, and puke inducing

[forest valve]

best it wouldnt taste bad

if i cant even fucking breathe, thst better be my only problem

because iirc this stuff fills your lungs or smth

[carmine peak]

how does a motorized mask help with it

[forest valve]

it keeps liquid in your lungs

[carmine peak]

gross

[worldly valve]

and probably helps the pumping

one of the issues of potential liquid breathing systems is your luings might have to try too hard n implode/explode on themselves due to pressure

[carmine peak]

I feel like irl using a system that works like this, switching back to oxygen breathing will be impossible since your body adapts to stuff over using them for long peroids of time

[worldly valve]

theres been tests on rats n shit and the systems have worked

[carmine peak]

if it releases irl for humans, not using it

it feels gross to inhale fluid, like choking, it damages your lungs, and it may cause cancer

[worldly valve]

it would be for extreme deep sea diving kinda stuff

[carmine peak]

still gross

[worldly valve]

you'd have a very specialised job that is already suuuper dangerous

you;d bve paid great money!

[carmine peak]

0.001$ per year

[worldly valve]

like underwater welding

[carmine peak]

but with a risk of lung cancer, liver faliure, implosion, explosion, desintegration, and being eaten

and also catching a disease

[worldly valve]

im starting to suspect the cause

and it makes me a lil sa

d

[carmine peak]

what is the cause

[worldly valve]

mmm

i may sometimes use a travel glitch

i think im being punished

tho i can work around it>.>

tho i might be being paranoid

[carmine peak]

what cause

[worldly valve]

see

sometimes when i enter my base

it's always under water

because i stab it with my knife

so i can go brrrrrr

i havent actually used it too much this playthough but i still tend to

and i noticved this patch, that my bases no longer randomly fix on reload

which tell me reika tweaked something

and i also havent been abel to deduce a consistent cause of the plankton

im also pretty sure the damage is wayyy higher than plankton normally is, because otherwise scanning it would be a true nightmare

but also, maybe im just being a paranoid motherfucker and reika is in fact not punishing and this is just a thing that is happening

what i dont know is if @fiery fiber also likes to stab their base>.>

[carmine peak]

anyways breathing fluid

[worldly valve]

previous theory paranoia

i gathering near mountain

on return all the plankton

entering main base is impoissiblwe

[carmine peak]

what is the plankton

[trail ether]

are you using the build I uploaded last night?

I tested and it works both with anda without DeE

[upper dock]

Yes, I updated this morning

using DeE

[trail ether]

did you update everything else

because the error is still failing to load assemblies

[keen wind]

cave crawlers are evolving at a startling pace

[upper dock]

I'll try manually updating all of the dependencies.

(well, manually isn't the right word because it's manual regardless, but)

Yep, that fixed it. I must have missed one of the dependencies when updating. Sorry for the false report!

[worldly valve]

i feel forced toa ctivate no damage

i cannot enter my base

plankton does 100% damage in a few seconds

a giant cloud of it is surrounding my main bas iun every direction:(

even if i hop in my seamoth or get inside before death, i die a few seconds after

[warm remnant]

Okay so I reinstalled the game, redownloaded all mods and removed the only one mod that isnt required for sea to sea which is blueprint tracker just to be sure, then created new save and went to ||blood crawler nest|| and bug with deepshroomes instead of ||larvae|| still present

[trail ether]

its damage drops as your health does

it is specifically designed to be unlikely to kill you

[trail ether]

then use the available measures to combat it

[trail ether]

I literally just tested a new world and it works

and my playthrough predates the feature and it worked too

one thing to check - after going there and finding nothing spawned, save the world and look for a file called CoordinatedSpawnsInitialized in the save dir

do you see any instances of BKelpBumpWormSpawner

there should be three

[warm remnant]

No

[worldly valve]

Im tellin you the plankton around the base kills me in a matter of seconds

2-3

This base is also in red kelp, above jellyshroom

I dont have the plankton spawbing thing being used

[trail ether]

go to the jellyshroom degasi base

are there any c2c fragments in it

[warm remnant]

Yes

[trail ether]

then I have no idea why some worldgen is running and others not

it is all the same SML system

does your log have any exceptions in it

[warm remnant]

The same ones that were in my previous messages

[trail ether]

this is probably related

do you have anything that would affect limestone chunks

I use them as worldgen anchor points

[warm remnant]

I have only sea to sea and dependencies

[carmine peak]

this has world gen?

[normal frigate]

Yes

[carmine peak]

how does it work?

[normal frigate]

Okay... it sends you back to the main menu after you die, thats annoying..

gotta quit the entire game and reload after dying

[normal frigate]

Unsure

[carmine peak]

it generates the world randomly?

[normal frigate]

Maybe? idk

[carmine peak]

then why are ppl talking about it

[warm remnant]

No just adds modded stuff to world

[carmine peak]

ok

[normal frigate]

Okay, looking at the recent commits and theres no limiter on de-extinction creatures

[trail ether]

yes there is https://i.imgur.com/JFVCCvU.png

that will not help already-spawned ones

I can do nothing about that

[normal frigate]

Is there anyway to clear them?

I could try removing de-extinction then adding it back

[trail ether]

you can delete them outright if that is what you want

DI has a deletePrefabNear near command; just give it a radius and the classID (here it is Filtorb)

it will only delete loaded objects tohugh

and what it deletes will NOT respawn

so if you delete all of them then filtorbs will be extinct

[normal frigate]

oh sweet

[normal frigate]

Does not seem to be working

I tried deletePrefabNear 100 Filtorb

[trail ether]

double check that that is the classID

open the object browser and look at a filtorb

what is its classID in the PrefabIdentifier

[upper dock]

Just tested this myself, I don't think it's working

plankton killed me in less than 3 seconds from full HP when I was so far away I wasn't even in the visual

like, a cloud of them appeared around my base out of nowhere and I'm now unable to leave my base on my main save

my save is effectively softlocked unless I cheat

(or if they go away at some point)