I CANNOT WAIT
#SeaToSea
nova saddle
how to fix this? 
forest valve
idk what that even is for
nova saddle
don't tell me I need a || red tablet || for that 💀
forest valve
don't tell me I need a || red tablet || for that 💀
im not gonna say more
nova saddle
idk what that even is for
its base aquarium
normal frigate
<@143569407665242112> NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO
So many pings in like 15 messages 😭
nova saddle
im not gonna say more
I need a hint, where can i find blueprint for || red tablet? ||
trail ether
I need a hint, where can i find blueprint for || red tablet? ||
where one of the PDA logs hints at
forest valve
thats also true, look for clues
imagine your entire journey as a detective case, trying to get to the bottom to get rid of kharaa, and see every resource or pda you find as some sort of clue or evidence leading to somewhere else
fauna as witnesses, or potential causes
and flora as something you can use to help you get through to the end of the case
nova saddle
Currently I know I have || access to 900m depth and it must be somewhere below 500m ||
nova saddle
but.. but.. || there's power draining effect, and I can't breath properly there 
||
loud python
but.. but.. || there's power draining effect, and I can't breath properly there...
||Vehicles won't work, and you run out of air quickly, but there's another feature in the game that let's you recover air.||
nova saddle
icy relic
where one of the PDA logs hints at
Does C2C (or any of your mods) modify anything about the FCS Quantum Teleporter?
forest valve
Does C2C (or any of your mods) modify anything about the FCS Quantum Teleporter?
reika said no
icy relic
Thought she said no about the power costs but maybe there's something else
forest valve
.
icy relic
I mean why wouldnt the quantum teleporter work, not even in creative
trail ether
reika said no
I said no to changing the power
I do fundamnetally change how it works
trail ether
Does C2C (or any of your mods) modify anything about the FCS Quantum Teleporter?
it needs a charger in the same base with an ion cube in it, which it will not consume
icy relic
it needs a charger in the same base with an ion cube in it, which it will not co...
The power bank is no longer in the fcs pda
icy relic
it needs a charger in the same base with an ion cube in it, which it will not co...
I got both of the stuff in the base(s) but still doesnt work, did i do it wrong?
silk pond
||do ion power cells prevent lost river power loss||
forest valve
||do ion power cells prevent lost river power loss||
guess
it is advanced technology
humans dont even know what it is
forest valve
||it doesnt stop the power drain i tested it just a minute ago||
||which vehicle are you using||
||it only affects itself, this technology cannot transform all others of the same type||
silk pond
||which vehicle are you using||
||i was using the prawn||
trail ether
I got both of the stuff in the base(s) but still doesnt work, did i do it wrong?
i used them myself
forest valve
||i was using the prawn||
||were both powercells an ion one?||
silk pond
||i only had 1 ion power cell at the time||
forest valve
well there you go
||ion power cell doesn't get wasted in the river, only the normal one does||
trail ether
I got both of the stuff in the base(s) but still doesnt work, did i do it wrong?
what about base power
silk pond
||ion power cell doesn't get wasted in the river, only the normal one does||
||i had only 1 cell in the prawn at the time and it was ion||
silk pond
||i still was able to do what i had to do cause the cell has so much power ||
forest valve
oooh holdon
||from some old covos it turns out that the ion batteries drain in some parts of the lost river||
silk pond
k
forest valve
nevermind turns out its unintentional
trail ether
||from some old covos it turns out that the ion batteries drain in *some* parts ...
that makes no sense
the way leakage is implemented the only kind of locational error that could occur is some areas not having leakage
there is no location or biome code in the ion exemption
icy relic
what about base power
I was in creative, does it still matter? I only had a solar panel
trail ether
I was in creative, does it still matter? I only had a solar panel
yes it matters
no promises for creative
icy relic
Ah
wispy kelp
@unreal flame
A FUCKING REAPER LEVITHAN DECIDED TO
JUST
WANDER NEAR MY HOME
FOR SOME REASON
Im going to knife this cunt to death
note i do not have a stasis rifle
silk pond
i think c2c makes them have extra health as it took me considerably longer than usual to kill one
nova saddle
And that one near || pod 10 has crazy agro ||
forest valve
i think c2c makes them have extra health as it took me considerably longer than ...
gives them resistance to attacks
configurable
from ecocean
which makes sense, they are leviathans, massive creatures
kinda helps the developers' idea of "you are small and cannot kill big"
icy relic
yes it matters
Ok it works now, thank you.
trail ether
i think c2c makes them have extra health as it took me considerably longer than ...
you ar not supposed to kill one
trail ether
And that one near || pod 10 has crazy agro ||
that one I specifically modified
forest valve
he wanted me so bad
storm anchor
Nice base >:)
I like how it weaves through the mushroom trees
nova saddle
||Vehicles won't work, and you run out of air quickly, but there's another featu...
|| what feature? I'm stuck ||
loud python
|| what feature? I'm stuck ||
||Seabases||
wispy kelp
you ar not *supposed* to kill one
loud python
IMO vanilla subnautica needed a stronger ending. My idea: You should only have been able to build the platfrom in a specific spot, and every time you try to leave a reaper leviathan gets angry and attacks the platfrom, focring you to abort, go down, kill it, and only after you kill it you can leave.
That'd be an ending
forest valve
IMO vanilla subnautica needed a stronger ending. My idea: You should only have b...
that whould just be tedious
nova saddle
Ok I am confused and want confirmation before I go there. || Are the red tablet fragments in Void Spikes? ||
trail ether
that whould just be tedious
and completely antithetical to what SN is
nova saddle
Humans are apex predators here on earth
storm anchor
IMO vanilla subnautica needed a stronger ending. My idea: You should only have b...
Think you should be posting this in the #🐟┃unmodded-subnautica chat :)
loud python
||Tedious, yes, but a couple outposts with some pipes to extend air replenishment rate can do wonders.||
unreal flame
IMO vanilla subnautica needed a stronger ending. My idea: You should only have b...
This wouldn’t work.
unreal flame
Ok I am confused and want confirmation before I go there. || Are the red tablet...
||Nope. If you’re able to get there and/or are in need of the red tablet, you definitely missed it elsewhere||
trail ether
Humans are apex predators here on earth
last I checked SN does not take place on earth
wispy kelp
i think subnauticas main ending is pretty good actually
a culmination of all your effort
no one elses
you did this
you fought against the odds and survived
unreal flame
last I checked SN does not take place on earth
this is the most correct response, honestly
wispy kelp
marg killing a levithan is a more like
i think its more so to point out that YES they can be killed
but also marg is INSANELY hardened
i would say post subnautica riley is like
marg at her time of crash
unreal flame
you've crash-landed on a planet where in the best case scenario, the kilometers-long apex predator of the planet has at least been dead for millenia
wispy kelp
also marg used like a whole ass scrap of metal but im curious to how she restrained the thing
unreal flame
and in it's stead there are numerous godzilla-sized creatures just roaming about
wispy kelp
i also think like.
okay so like alot of people really play the fucking degasi crew down but like
they really were not fuckin weak at all
unreal flame
you're not the apex predator here (and really, no single human dumped into the wilds of earth is, either)
unreal flame
we're the apex predators not due to anything resembling strength, we're apex predators because of intelligence, cooperation, and perhaps most of all, our ability to pursue far better than anything else is able to escape
wispy kelp
she's got a scar on her lip
also i mean
we arent truly the apex predators of earth
on land sure
but the ocean??
dude we are so fucking ill adapted for the fucking ocean oh my god
unreal flame
i mean, we definitely are in the ocean too
wispy kelp
oh no we ARE
unreal flame
because of our intelligence
wispy kelp
do not get me wrong
we ARE
but like
we are NOT the apex predator there
one day sure but like
unreal flame
no, we are, for the same reasons we are on land
wispy kelp
no, we are, for the same reasons we are on land
im saying the whole ocean
unreal flame
take away hunting tools and we're much further down the ladder
unreal flame
yes, and there isn't a single creature in the ocean that we cannot find, capture, and kill
yeah yeah, 6% of the ocean is "explored" or whatever (not really true)
and sure there's probably life we've never yet encountered down there
unreal flame
but i can guarantee you whatever life is down there, we can kill
unreal flame
polar bears are fuckin something
elephant rifle
unreal flame
but it exists
wispy kelp
i was really sad that subnautica didnt really have any arctic camoflauged creatures
like the snow stalkers kinda stick out
like
unreal flame
yeah
wispy kelp
you can see this very easily because of the tail the face and the spines
im curious n8
what do you think of marg personally
unreal flame
on the other hand polar bears are kind of getting their shit rocked by climate change so
wispy kelp
i like her character because she kinda embodies what living in the wilds does to someone
oh yeah true
she isn't good either really
she's jaded if anything
i really wish they fucking kept the old bz lore my god
unreal flame
no real opinions on marg i guess
unreal flame
yeah it's kind of odd
wispy kelp
but im not really sure
unreal flame
no cure in sight, lasts 20 years
wispy kelp
i think like
it will probably be explained in 2
ALSO
I REALLY HATE HOW THE MERCURY IS JUST
KINDA...DROPPED IN ??
LIKE-
THE MERCURY HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL
but it's just generic survivors die story
unreal flame
i mean, it doesn't really make sense that none of the other characters acknowledge it at all aside from one guy having a poster of it, seemingly unrelated to the wreck being right there
which honestly is kind of weird
unreal flame
it's like if someone had a poster of Malaysia Airlines flight 370
then again it could be more of an Amelia Earhart situation, I suppose
forest valve
last I checked SN does not take place on earth
the reason they didnt givr you weapons was to make you feel small
ur not supposed to kill leviathans
nova saddle
||Tedious, yes, but a couple outposts with some pipes to extend air replenishmen...
That doesn’t work with || liquid breathing system ||
nova saddle
i just hate the plot hole of
Below Zero is a spinoff, not canon imho
It’s sad that you can EASLY fix the story / game but creators didn’t do that
forest valve
no cure in sight, lasts 20 years
got a theory
reapers dont seem to get sick
they apex predators, so they eat small and big fish
big fish eat enzyme peepers
and reaper eat big fish
nova saddle
It’s sad that you can EASLY fix the story / game but creators didn’t do that
I have a plan for that https://github.com/ZmiennyVT/SubnauticaBLOverhaul
forest valve
I have a plan for that https://github.com/ZmiennyVT/SubnauticaBLOverhaul
omg bz will actually be enjoyable
nova saddle
and reaper eat big fish
That’s the problem: you doesn’t have enzyme in sector zero
forest valve
That’s the problem: you doesn’t have enzyme in sector zero
but she ate reaper flesh
nova saddle
I know, but if that’s was the cure - why architect doesn’t use it
forest valve
not really sufficient enough to cure a whole planet
nova saddle
besides, stretching the story to make alterra evil is also meh
nova saddle
True true
nova saddle
but she ate reaper flesh
The same flesh for 20 years?
forest valve
#❄️┃unmodded-belowzero
nova saddle
👍
nova saddle
||Nope. If you’re able to get there and/or are in need of the red tablet, you de...
|| is it somewhere in lost river? ||
unreal flame
Below Zero is a spinoff, not canon imho
It’s definitely canon.
unreal flame
besides, stretching the story to make alterra evil is also meh
???
unreal flame
alterra really became "generic evil company number 31381923"
Became???
forest valve
ok it always was nvm
unreal flame
If anything, alterra was way less evil than a megacorporation should be in BZ
forest valve
cus they was always assholes, even to ryley
forest valve
If anything, alterra was way less evil than a megacorporation should be in BZ
well
actually yeah
not really alterra's fault that her sister got blamed for negligence?
unreal flame
Nope, since she definitely did blow up that cave and die because of it
forest valve
Nope, since she definitely did blow up that cave and die because of it
which cave was it, since both the portal cave and the leviathan cave seem to have been broken
unreal flame
The frozen leviathan cave
nova saddle
It’s definitely canon.
unreal flame
Why do you think it isn’t?
storm anchor
BZ is obviously canon
loud python
That doesn’t work with || liquid breathing system ||
Admitedly I didn't use the pipes, just bases to catch my breath. But I was under the impression it was supposed to work with|| the liquid breathing ||system
loud python
not really alterra's fault that her sister got blamed for negligence?
It wasn't negligence, it was corporate sabotage or maybe corporate terrorism. That Alterra is just calling it "negligence" is actually super nice of them.
trail ether
Admitedly I didn't use the pipes, just bases to catch my breath. But I was under...
it can
nova saddle
Admitedly I didn't use the pipes, just bases to catch my breath. But I was under...
|| It’s still uses a lot of liquid that you need to craft ||
wispy kelp
|| It’s still uses a lot of liquid that you need to craft ||
all of the resources are p easy to farm
nova saddle
all of the resources are p easy to farm
gathering 💩 aren't easy
nova saddle
<:ThinkO_O:914620913192935494> || is it somewhere in lost river? ||
I need another hint 🙏
forest valve
I need another hint 🙏
this isnt a place for hints, sorry
we'd love to help you but reika wants people to explore for the items
since yknow, she worked on the mod
nova saddle
we'd love to help you but reika wants people to explore for the items
Yes, but at this level I don't know if I can't find this because of a bug or some other reason
forest valve
it is, I checked it out
it is not a bug.
it is not something location based specifically
not really after getting a certain item
wiki has some outdated stuff
and dont try to edit it, since it kinda ruins reika's placement of everything
(wanting to make it a puzzle and all)
||somewhere near the alien bases, mightve been left there for a bit, technically not in a spot you go to, more like a place where you first see something||
trying really hard to not tell you where it is, i definitely wont, but yk like in puzzle style
nova saddle
it is not a bug.
|| I checked on the wiki where the red tablet should be - and I started a new save in creative mode to see if it's there - and it turns out it is.
I went back to my original save and IT'S NOT THERE. I also don't have a blueprint for it so I probably didn't scan it earlier. ||
What am I missing?
forest valve
|| I checked on the wiki where the red tablet should be - and I started a new sa...
huh
that is very weird
i dont think theres another location, so simply type in this command
||unlock precursorkeyred||
nova saddle
forest valve
https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21702784
||precursorkey_red||
had it in my playthrough
hmmmmm, im not sure what could also be something similar to how the thingie is placed which is considered something custom
oh shit right
well ur gonna need ot to go there anyways
nova saddle
Also, || which PDA is mentioning this tablet? ||
nova saddle
||precursorkey_red||
finally 
||
forest valve
||its not a wall its clearly a screen||
i was also confused at first then i was like ||wait the screen is clickable if i remember||
nova saddle
i was also confused at first then i was like ||wait the screen is clickable if i...
|| I've been there before, before this whole adventure with the red tablet ||
forest valve
lmao
nova saddle
|| And imho placing the recipe in a destroyed research facility would be much better ||
forest valve
|| And imho placing the recipe in a destroyed research facility would be much be...
||no, not really||
is a good decision
since c2c makes you explore all the areas
if its hinted at in the game, you gotta check it out
nova saddle
if its hinted at in the game, you gotta check it out
The problem is that if you don't know anything, the hints aren't obvious. Like clicking on a wall - especially when you played Subnautica for the first time / a long time ago
trail ether
imho || clicking on a WALL should be more obvious <a:Cat_Bruh:854901327381135410...
???
when do you need to click a wall
trail ether
<:zmienny_tired:1161061081620418560> Also, || which PDA is mentioning this tabl...
||mountain survivor logs||
specifically jules' final log
nova saddle
when do you need to click a wall
|| to get canister blueprint ||
forest valve
||its a screen tho||
trail ether
|| to get canister blueprint ||
that is not a wall
forest valve
a green one, even
trail ether
a green one, even
which glows and has an animated texture
nova saddle
|| It looked like a decoration , especially when you racing against time because of power and oxygen ||
trail ether
trail ether
|| It looked like a decoration <:ThinkO_O:914620913192935494> , especially when ...
...
forest valve
i could kinda see that ig
i was also there and i was like "wait, i remember the screen being interactible"
but thats because i clicked on it before
||it gives you the reproductive data, right?||
forest valve
ohh
nova saddle
https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/SeaToSea/blob/30d41b15c97c08f2f160e6bd4615e71dc0...
|| tbh thanks to this file I found it - lostRiverCachePanel variable saved me 
||
nova saddle
looks lit to me
It would be great if this place had air, there would be a more time to look around there
forest valve
welll, wouldnt really make sense
precursors definitely have some sort of filter like "dont allow biological creatures in, but allow environmental stuff"
forest valve
It would be great if this place had air, there would be a more time to look arou...
well youre on a time limit, so mistakes are bound to be made
nova saddle
welll, wouldnt really make sense
why not? there are facilities where there is a filter that does not let water through
forest valve
why not? there are facilities where there is a filter that does not let water th...
not the same kinda gate
wispy kelp
gathering 💩 aren't easy
youre
joking right
if youre talking about getting lysing enzymes LITTERALLY just get some proper alien containment units set up
nova saddle
if youre talking about getting lysing enzymes LITTERALLY just get some proper al...
mine can't generate poop for some reason idk why
nova saddle
nova saddle
dont use betteracu
Betteracu? What’s that?
forest valve
mods that mess wirh acu stuff
silk pond
||i finally complete thr rocket and i still got more to do!!!||
nova saddle
||i finally complete thr rocket and i still got more to do!!!||
How many hours this takes?
forest valve
How many hours this takes?
if i had to guess, around 60-70 hours
trail ether
my last playthrough in december took longer than I spent in HZD a few weeks later, which is a full open-world story game in which I did every single side quest and everything
even did this https://i.imgur.com/fhnrOKl.png
and my C2C playthrough was still longer
though not by a lot
trail ether
you can pobably increase the amount I spent because I have no "gamer skill" and played strategically and conservatively
forest valve
omg same
trail ether
lots and lots and lots of "shoot, wait for the suspicion timer to elapse, shoot again, repeat"
forest valve
ah
trail ether
unl;ess I could make myself immune by exploiting terrain anyway
ah
I have an actual time played
this was taken right after I finishde the campaign
so 84h
subtract like four hours for the hunting grounds if you want
that plus my first DSP playthrough is how I spent my christmas vacation
very very fulfilling
upper dock
yeah C2C is extremely long even if you know what you're doing
certain things are slowed down so much you can't really just.. rush them any more
for a new player 60 hours is probably a good estimate, arguably it's an optimistic one even
unreal flame
That’s true of the game as a whole, though
storm anchor
picks up after the green
After the green place 
trail ether
certain things are slowed down so much you can't really just.. rush them any mor...
which was a big part of the goal
and indeed of lots of mods/packs I have made over the years
cough 
cough
upper dock
yeah it's like, the whole point of the mod
I struggle to realllllly recommend it to people just due to the sheer length of it, but I'm not sure I would say the length is a bad thing
it's just so long that I think most people will Not Finish even if they end up liking it
unreal flame
length is less of a deciding factor in whether someone will give up on a run, methinks
more to do with just how many puzzles and such things there are that people get caught up on
silk pond
||ive been filling out the alterra research manifest and have no idea on what it means by small agressive carrion feeder. i thought that ment bleaders but i cant pick those up||
trail ether
read the databank
nova saddle
How to change biome in ACU?
oh nvm
is there a list which species go to which biome?
forest valve
is there a list which species go to which biome?
depends on what u find in the biomes
nova saddle
depends on what u find in the biomes
I find Eyeye in Kelp Forest but when I try to add it to kelp forest ACU I got "Not all species share the same biome"
forest valve
I find Eyeye in Kelp Forest but when I try to add it to kelp forest ACU I got "N...
mmm
prolly needs the ||jellyshroom cave mushrooms|| then
||if u want kelp forest, then hoverfish and stalker are a-ok||
nova saddle
||if u want kelp forest, then hoverfish and stalker are a-ok||
hoverfish the best fish
nova saddle
hoverfish, stalker and enzyme pepper
forest valve
hoverfish the best fish
need more kelp
nova saddle
does this upgrade stack?
nova saddle
does this upgrade stack?
btw I found a bug. If I use this module at 1 percent energy I can use it indefinitely
past geyser
Well that's a vanilla module
Well I think I thought that was a seatruck sorry lol
Ignore me
forest valve
Well I think I thought that was a seatruck sorry lol
we got seatosea in below zero before subnautica 😔
forest valve
does this upgrade stack?
definitely not
nova saddle
whyy
forest valve
poop collector
sage gust
Will this mod ever update to 2.0 or is it going to forever be a legacy mod
shrewd gate
iirc, once nautilus is done, Reika said they may port it to 2.0
sage gust
awesome :D
fiery fiber
You need to have plankton in the feeder. I don't know if the biome stuff needs to be balanced but I generally do that. Have carnivores herbivores and the correct plants and then have no prob with getting poop. How've is not too fast so I end up just doing a run over to the trench
nova saddle
You need to have plankton in the feeder. I don't know if the biome stuff needs t...
I have it optimised and added a lot of plankton
still no pop 
fiery fiber
Give it time
unreal flame
iirc, once nautilus is done, Reika said they may port it to 2.0
there are other more restrictive factors, such as an only partially functional computer
trail ether
there are other more restrictive factors, such as an only partially functional c...
my SN workspace was one of t he first things i rebuilt
i do still not have all the PDNs and similar things but the C# workspace was easy to rebuild and all the code was on git
trail ether
yes
forest valve
||does the seamoth phytoplankton scoop attract phytoplankton more than if i didnt have it?||
nova saddle
Give it time
I give it few hours
trail ether
||does the seamoth phytoplankton scoop attract phytoplankton more than if i didn...
no
nova saddle
|| btw I wonder, what is the technical reason for teleporting player to access the void spikes? ||
trail ether
|| btw I wonder, what is the technical reason for teleporting player to access t...
the game gradually deletes GOs that far out into the void
this manifested as the spikes gradually disappearing, prop by prop
so the plants might start disappearing, or the conical terrain items might start disappearing, leaving floating plants and fragmented spikes
forest valve
||but i had to go towards the beacon, not straight down||
||straight down from the void liffepod i mean||
nova saddle
the game gradually deletes GOs that far out into the void
|| Ok, so some system in the game - could it be blocked to prevent deleting go with a specific tag/component in them? 
||
forest valve
|| Ok, so some system in the game - could it be blocked to prevent deleting go w...
i dont think so, its either too complicated, or needs modifying game files, which you cant do
nova saddle
i dont think so, its either too complicated, or needs modifying game files, whic...
nah, you can do anything with Unity games. Only limitation is native plugins compiled to .dll
forest valve
nah, you can do anything with Unity games. Only limitation is native plugins com...
base pieces
ok ig those are possible too but they are a hellhole to deal with
nova saddle
may be, true
trail ether
||but i had to go towards the beacon, not straight down||
they are referring to the fact that the actual location of the void spikes is central and under the map
not actually out 3km into the void like the beacon makes it look
forest valve
oh
trail ether
I did fancy trig with the UI to redirect the on screen position of that marker
trail ether
|| Ok, so some system in the game - could it be blocked to prevent deleting go w...
that was the first thing I looked into
that rapidly gets into the weeds of WorldStreamer and the CellsCache
if I did know how to stop that I would remove the teleport since it is a hack
forest valve
mhm
nova saddle
that rapidly gets into the weeds of WorldStreamer and the CellsCache
oh so its Voxeland feature
nova saddle
I did fancy trig with the UI to redirect the on screen position of that marker
tbh the teleport is unnoticeable
unreal flame
I mean, we do have Terrain Extender now
trail ether
oh so its Voxeland feature
less voxeland - since it is not due to terrain per se - and more the entity management "chunkloading" system that UWE used for SN world objects
trail ether
I mean, we do have Terrain Extender now
?
nova saddle
I mean, we do have Terrain Extender now
for legacy too?
forest valve
for legacy too?
dont think so
unreal flame
Nautilus mod that enables exactly what you’re looking for
nova saddle
forest valve
yeah nautilus only
unreal flame
Which is to say, terrain and object storing beyond 2048 m
nova saddle
yeah nautilus only
sea2sea uses nautilus
forest valve
??
no?
well. not yet
when its on 2.0, then definitely yes
but noit on legacy, obviously
forest valve
idk
nautilus does not work on legacy -w-
due to the code from legacy being very much different than the code on 2.0
(from SN code to BZ code)
silk pond
read the databank
||i did but the 2 carrion feeders i saw in there were not able to be picked up||
trail ether
one of them is
not directly
but how do you "pick up" other creatures that cannot be directly grabbed
silk pond
eggs?
onyx sapphire
hasnt played since june and decides to get back into it
forgets something important ||(I need a liquid breathing system to go below 500 meters, not sure how I forgot considering I logged off last wearing it)||
oops
forest valve
>hasnt played since june and decides to get back into it
>forgets something impo...
hmm
there was a different kind of people trying to deal with this far before you existed
not exaclty people tho
onyx sapphire
I'm currently fetching resources for hatching enzymes
so yeah I'll well into the game
forest valve
oh-
onyx sapphire
I just havent booted up subnautica in a couple months lol
onyx sapphire
oh I was looking at messages since last time I played the mod and I noticed you were having trouble finding out how to unlock the recipe for it
forest valve
oh I was looking at messages since last time I played the mod and I noticed you ...
oh no i alr got it
onyx sapphire
i will admit I made 4 ||canisters to boot just to be safe after getting the recipe||
I'm only on my second one
forest valve
was in the process of making a base in the lost river corridor but i kinda lost motivation due to so much gaming
gonna wait till 2.0 probs
forest valve
i will admit I made 4 ||canisters to boot just to be safe after getting the reci...
spoilers
forest valve
crazy
speedrunners never knew that i bet
(current speedruns are so fast they leave before the aurora blows up, thus making the planet cured from kharaa but now having an extinction event due to radiation)
onyx sapphire
"look, I didn't crash that ship; not my problem dude "
the fish dont seem to mind the radiation its probably fine anyway
oh I'm not the only one with this problem then
forest valve
coincidentally you seem to have dropped your repair tool, so luckily a nearby creature grows arms and a functioning brain, wears your rad suit, goes into the aurora and fixes the leaks, before dying in a spectacular fashion
onyx sapphire
coincidentally you seem to have dropped your repair tool, so luckily a nearby cr...
warper just teleports in and fixes leaks
forest valve
warper just teleports in and fixes leaks
wouldnt it just fry its brain
onyx sapphire
i mean the warper seems fine in the lava zone and lost river, I'm sure the radiation is no big deal
forest valve
i mean the warper seems fine in the lava zone and lost river, I'm sure the radia...
well, a simple old sulphur drain and extreme temperature is far different from your cells being ripped apart from your body
especially since the guys are half machine
trail ether
well, a simple old sulphur drain and extreme temperature is far different from y...
radiation kills because the charged particles destroy DNA and other molecules
hence "ionizing" as opposed to nonionizing whose particles lack enough energy to break apart things they hit
forest valve
radiation kills because the charged particles destroy DNA and other molecules
would prolly be more damaging to machines than sulphur/extreme heat right?
trail ether
break a DNA molecule and maybe the cell fixes it, but if not it either dies immediately or is now a possible cancer precursor
forest valve
break a DNA molecule and maybe the cell fixes it, but if not it either dies imme...
precursor mentioned subnautica alert
trail ether
would prolly be more damaging to machines than sulphur/extreme heat right?
electronics are also vulnerable to high radiation because it can degrade their materials too, as well as inducing electric charges in ways not designed
forest valve
electronics are also vulnerable to high radiation because it can degrade their m...
so the warpers would be a tad more screwed if inside a pool of 500Sv (around 100x or more the lethal dose to a human) than in a pool of concentrated sulphur or a pool of boiling water, correct?
trail ether
warpers are biomechanical
IRL they would have no ability to survive extreme temperatures or radiation levels
forest valve
are they screwed squared then?
trail ether
genetic engineering cannot circumvent the rules of biology
forest valve
warpers are biomechanical
ok lets say in subnautica since radiation definitely exists in some situations
trail ether
for example sufficiently hot temperatures will literally smash apart proteins
of which all tissues are built
that is what cooking is
forest valve
especially with the pressure
trail ether
genetic engineering cannot circumvent the rules of biology
let alone physics
forest valve
warpers would be charred as soon as they warp in the lava zone(s)
trail ether
more like boiled
forest valve
mmmm, boiled warper
trail ether
and though there are radiation-resistant creatures they are all very simple
onyx sapphire
like bacteria
trail ether
i doubt a complex organism - with its dependence on complex biochemistry and interconnected systems - could survive high levels
onyx sapphire
like cockroaches
they're not THAT radiation resistant
trail ether
pump in enough eV and you will break apart any critical molecular machinery
onyx sapphire
they've survived in amounts 10 times the lethal dose for humans
forest valve
i doubt a complex organism - with its dependence on complex biochemistry and int...
well, we're talking about an alien civilization that seems to be far more advanced, but fair ig
onyx sapphire
but they don't really survive past 15 times
trail ether
DNA, enzymes, phospholipid bilayers...
forest valve
they've survived in amounts 10 times the lethal dose for humans
i think
trail ether
at that scale the analogy of a cannonball into a brick wall is apt
onyx sapphire
please note only 30% of the cockroaches exposed to 10k rads (human lethal dose is 1k) survived
trail ether
a btick wall where the mortar is made of fairly weak magnetic forces between bricks i might add
the only thing holding molecules together is electric charges
an energetic enough disturbance and you easily overcome that
or just add your own charge and then they fall apart on their own
or in the case of proteins just misfold and become useless
at its very core, life is just a description applied to a very specific, very fragile self-sustaining cluster of chemical reacitons in various feedback loops
and like all chemistry it is acutely sensitive to the environment
onyx sapphire
and the laws of physics
trail ether
add enough energy and - to quote xkcd - you stop being biology and start being physics
onyx sapphire
ah yes the wise words of randall
normal frigate
whats happening
onyx sapphire
idk
normal frigate
they are robots with organic materials for the most part
onyx sapphire
add enough energy and - to quote xkcd - you stop being biology and start *being*...
found it
forest valve
warpers would be utterly and completely fucked in the aurora
(broken one)
onyx sapphire
what if #141
trail ether
warpers would be utterly and completely fucked in the aurora
we do not know the radiation levels in the aurora
normal frigate
well we do know it is enough to hurt a human so theres the rad suit
trail ether
the fact it kills a human in a minute or two suggests extreme
normal frigate
and hurt pretty quickly lol
trail ether
but no suit IRL can protect at that level
radiation has to be insanely intense to kill you on the spot like that
forest valve
we do not know the radiation levels in the aurora
rad suit suggests it could protect 400-500Sv
trail ether
even people who went into chernobyl hours after meltdown took days to die
forest valve
400Sv/hr
trail ether
as did slotin after his idiocy
forest valve
400Sv/hr
and inside the leaked drive room, the pda mentioned that radiation is reaching maximum tolerable level
onyx sapphire
and inside the leaked drive room, the pda mentioned that radiation is reaching m...
"Warning: local radiation at maximum tolerable level"
trail ether
to kill you on the spot radiation has to not only ruin your DNA but break down the cellular machinery to sucha level that life immediately becomes nonviable
the delayed death is caused by cells which are "Dead men walking" insofar as they still function but can no longer repair, divide, or grow due to DNA damage
so you eventually die once they fail
onyx sapphire
no more dna
trail ether
you can live without DNA for a few hours to days
you cannot live without eg mitochondria for that time
or acetylcholinesterase
onyx sapphire
you can live without DNA for a few hours to days
for more info please see page 131 of the first What If? book
trail ether
i bought the book last year
onyx sapphire
lol
trail ether
i have yet to get around to reading it
onyx sapphire
you should
trail ether
i plan to
onyx sapphire
i'm sure you can guess what the question on page 131 involves
onyx sapphire
||I mean the question is what if someones DNA just vanished||
onyx sapphire
of course one of the things brought up to answer the question was of course radiation
trail ether
not a particularly targeted approach though
like trying to shoot the books out of a bookshelf with a Metal Storm gun
onyx sapphire
oo that sounds fun
trail ether
you wouild end up with nothing but finely aerosolized wood dust
fiery fiber
Ya'll don't know what your talking about. 1.21 jigowatts can overcome everything. Even time 😋
forest valve
||can i have 2 liquid breathing tanks and it would work the same as 2 regular tanks?||
as in i can replace one when the other runs out
trail ether
||can i have 2 liquid breathing tanks and it would work the same as 2 regular ta...
i think the switch might zero your o2
forest valve
i think the switch might zero your o2
so i cant use 2 ||liquid tanks||?
not switching from a ||liquid to an air tank, switching from liquid tank to liquid tank, kinda making it 300 seconds underwater if i pull it off right||
trail ether
i made unequipping the liquid tank zero the o2
I do not know if A) that is applied before the new tank is actually equipped, and thus zeros it B) whether a tank-to-tank swap even fires an unequip
forest valve
I do not know if A) that is applied before the new tank is actually equipped, an...
i can definitely confirm that going from a liquid to an air tank will zero the o2, but switching back to the liquid gives you the air thats still available in it
more like, the liquid, ig
from liquid to air tank = 0 air in air tank
from air tank to liquid tank = however many seconds the liquid tank had perserved in the primary system
forest valve
epic
cus for now ||the seamoth power drain is crazy||
||gonna test if two tanks work at some point, and then eat the blue flame plant, as soon as i go 500m under, i put on the liquid tank, seaglide into the skull, yoink the upgrade, and then go on from there||
eh going for ||iridium|| right away might be more worth it, ||since i might be able to make the prawn suit and get iridium from the meteor||
nova saddle
||gonna test if two tanks work at some point, and then eat the blue flame plant,...
|| I can't find the upgrade ||
maybe another bug || like I got with red tablet ||
forest valve
|| I can't find the upgrade <:sadge:1054776937194737776> ||
||its like in the brine besides the seamoth fragment||
nova saddle
I'll search for it one more
forest valve
the recipes obtained with interactibles should still unlock
databoxes and such
worked so far, sooo
signal karma
how is the moonpool supposed to get?
signal karma
the way you do it in vanilla..
ik but, the spots where they spawn are the same?
forest valve
yes
signal karma
ah alr
forest valve
dont think seatosea modifies any spawning locations for vanilla fragments
signal karma
th is this
wise hound
nova saddle
you need to || ||
storm anchor
you need to || ||
Don’t forget to
signal karma
an unidentified item
also, how is aereogel supposed to get? i got de rubies and gel sacks but i didnt get the crafting recipe
trail ether
I do not change its recipe
signal karma
ah
nova saddle
are the large deposits the only way to get sulfur?
trail ether
ys
nova saddle
btw || How to get items from Item Collector? ||
I can pick it up, but can't get items from inside
normal frigate
Anyone else get constant freezes with c2c?
nova saddle
yup
btw another question: where can I find the blueprint for || Falling Material Detection Module ||?
trail ether
I can pick it up, but can't get items from inside
it does not have an inside
nova saddle
it does not have an inside
Then it’s just a trash bin that erase items?
trail ether
no?
forest valve
||in a location with extensive life||
oh my god that makes so much sesne now
||that wreck contains a PDA that has two guys and the captain talking around some sort of scanner area in the aurora, makes sense it has the module||
(not necissarily c2c spoilers but explains why the module is there)
trail ether
almost like i thought of these things
forest valve
almost like i thought of these things
wow its almost as if listening to PDAs is actually useful now!
normal frigate
i just ignore them
The freezes are so bad its hard to ignore
sometimes take up to 10 mins to unfreeze
upper dock
ok THAT'S not normal
microstutters and random 1-2 second freezes in certain areas are normal with C2C
anything longer to that and something's very wrong
normal frigate
ok THAT'S not normal
I do have fcs included if that even makes a difference
ive never been able to actually do a full playthrough
unreal flame
Still have no clue why these stutters happen
past geyser
Most stutters are something running on update
I know my unloader was really killing fps because of my update runs
normal frigate
yea but for me its the loading wheel
forest valve
well they'll prolly be gone in c2c 2.0, hopefully
nova saddle
microstutters and random 1-2 second freezes in certain areas are normal with C2C
I have them and they are getting worse and worse and then I need to restart the game to run smooth again
I have 5800x3d and 4090
Maybe I’ll check what’s the reason using runtime inspector of some sorts
Btw I have a suggestion: is it possible to improve the readability of the PDA a bit after modifying the UI? Currently, in the game they are divided into categories, and in the case of Sea2Sea it would be much more convenient if all this information was displayed chronologically in one view. Then reading them and doing detective work would be more fun
forest valve
Then it’s just a trash bin that erase items?
maybe a storage compartment of a vehicle?
nova saddle
maybe a storage compartment of a vehicle?
You can deploy item collector from inventory
Maybe floating storage will connect to this?
humble island
trying to repair this box in a wreck but it just won't repair for some reason
forest valve
trying to repair this box in a wreck but it just won't repair for some reason
oh boy
this sometimes happens
try exiting the world, and the game, and THEN reopen the game, and reload the save
because exiting the world and reloading it immediately will break stuff
wispy kelp
@trail ether
isnt this how im supposed to open this
trail ether
pay closer attention
unreal flame
<@143569407665242112>
isnt this how im supposed to open this
needs more
wispy kelp
huhhh..
unreal flame
How can you make the repulsion cannon go more
modern ibex
I had a weird bug with water bottles spawned in this mod's structures that they would glitch your inventory after you drink them.
unreal flame
Known issue, unknown solution
forest valve
How can you make the repulsion cannon go more
perhaps one of the PDA messages mentions it...
wispy kelp
How can you make the repulsion cannon go more
uh..im not sure
ill have to figure that out
forest valve
uh..im not sure
maybe some sort of clue of what is said in the aurora?
unreal flame
uh..im not sure
what can you add to most tools to make them work better?
unreal flame
actually, @trail ether is this function explicitly or implicitly mentioned anywhere?
unreal flame
||wait, did you use an azurite battery when trying to open the door?||
forest valve
why would i
i mean, idk, its pretty strong ngl
wispy kelp
ill get ion
wispy kelp
forest valve
true
trail ether
actually, <@143569407665242112> is this function explicitly or implicitly mentio...
is what function
unreal flame
||azurite boosting||
wispy kelp
ions should boost too
or require azurite to be made
wait
wtf
why do ions have LESS charge
how does that make any sense
unreal flame
there's some reason for it that I can't recall at the moment
but yeah, ion batteries only really serve as vehicle power in sea to sea
trail ether
||azurite boosting||
it seems not
unreal flame
good to mention if it's necessary for certain activities
trail ether
i should add sometrhing to its tooltip about it boosting the power of tools or something
unreal flame
agreed
forest valve
i should add sometrhing to its tooltip about it boosting the power of tools or s...
does it make the seaglide faster?
fiery fiber
It makes laser cutter stronger
tacit brook
hey all ;D i play seatosea but i need drones for vehicle station? how i find them?
i dont find them...
normal frigate
hey all ;D i play seatosea but i need drones for vehicle station? how i find the...
Drones have to be scanned hint: ||follow the games story||
tacit brook
i follow the story but i dont find any...
trail ether
does it make the seaglide faster?
considerably
but the speed bonus falls off with depth to avoid making the super seaglide eclipse the seamoth
below 400m it is no faster than a normal seaglide
it is still faster than the seamoth above like 150m
my last save i regularly did pure seaglide runs across the map from my base in the grassy plateaus to the mine i had on the meteor in the dunes
it was both faster than the seamoth and did not leave a vulnerable reaper target outside
tacit brook
this mod is stupid... crashing all time
trail ether
....what?
forest valve
not really the mod's fault, legacy is known to be a not fps-friendly version when running mods
especially ones that basically change the entire gaem
nova saddle
Can you mine || meteor || with laser cutter?
nova saddle
this mod is stupid... crashing all time
It works for me 
forest valve
below 400m it is no faster than a normal seaglide
if i put in a normal battery for the seaglide, will the speed always be the same?
tacit brook
It works for me <:shrug:864634558317985842>
i try it advanced inventory dont work, so i play without him an he crashed.. i forgot to safe an crash -.-
trail ether
if i put in a normal battery for the seaglide, will the speed always be the same...
yes the vanilla speed is unchanged
trail ether
i try it advanced inventory dont work, so i play without him an he crashed.. i f...
????
forest valve
????
they had the advancedinventory file in 2 different places
so subnautica was like "uhhh, i forgor" and made the inventory ui completely gone
unreal flame
Ah, an ID: 10-T error
tacit brook
????
yes inventory mod dont work, and i play seatosea and he crash random... idk why no file nothing... i was so mad i delete it^^
nova saddle
yes inventory mod dont work, and i play seatosea and he crash random... idk why ...
Take a look at log file
forest valve
Take a look at log file
kookoo told them that they had advancedinventory in 2 places
if thats not the only user error, idk waht is
nova saddle
Oh right
forest valve
how do i deal with the pressure?
||did you go to the underwater islands and see a wreck break off?||
sometimes seatosea has visual cues
forest valve
i think i missed that
be careful, big dude there
humble island
i saw it
um
i think i softlocked mytself
wait no im good
liquid breathing is confusing
24 hours pretty much
silk pond
||what does it mean by small cave dwelling scavenger in the research manifest i can only think shuttlebug but i can’t find its eggs||
unreal flame
Keep looking
nova saddle
24 hours pretty much
same for me, I got ||liquid breathing system|| around 24h into playthrou
worldly valve
Did anyone ever find a reliable wya to find ||nano carbon|| before having the scanner?
I eventually spawned it in as i never found a piece in a box and i never once got even mildly close to a falling meteor even using super sea glide glitch
I also was confused if my file got bugged or wiki was wrong
||the sea glide speed modual was in the kelp zone. Tbh i used super sea glide the whole game mostly, but i was sad that you got the speed mod for it kinda right when the speed mod no longer mattered||
worldly valve
|| I still remember it being extremely hard to spot too in the water with the meteors landing||
forest valve
|| I still remember it being extremely hard to spot too in the water with the me...
i tihnk you can hear it if you are above 200m
and you can see the fire trial aswell
nova saddle
||the sea glide speed modual was in the kelp zone. Tbh i used super sea glide th...
u mean Seamoth?
I have a one fait of luck when meteor crushed near my base and that way I get the || nano carbon ||
I still don't know where the blueprint for scanner is
forest valve
u mean Seamoth?
nah i think they actually meant the seaglide
havent heard of a ||seaglide module||
forest valve
idk
something reika added in newly ig
like months ago
each wreck prolly might have smth useful
worldly valve
I refered to seaglide since i used super sea glide when i went through the mod
|| i got it below 500m. 2 blue prints were in opposite areas than the wiki said. Getting the fluid was also a nightmare...or one of the pieces. One of the pieces was below 500 so i had to use an intentional death to even get at it.
And by 1 death i meant a half dozen or so as i got lost in the wreck and had literal seconds below 500||
forest valve
|| i got it below 500m. 2 blue prints were in opposite areas than the wiki said....
||its only one blueprint, the breathing liquid recipe is unlocked with the water filtration suit||
||i was able to go in and out without too much difficulty using 3 high capacity o2 tanks||
worldly valve
|| I think i had 2 of those in inventory. They lasted like...10 seconds each it felt like||
forest valve
||maybe only swap them when above 500||
||and always use a seaglide while focusing, so you arent spending 5 seconds under 500||
nova saddle
idk if putting || liquid breathing blueprints below 500m is a good idea ||
|| even with pipes is hell to get there ||
forest valve
idk if putting || liquid breathing blueprints below 500m is a good idea <:zmienn...
nah i think its a good idea
you have ways of countering, so counter
||i did it with just a seaglide and 3 ultra high capacity tanks||
nova saddle
||i did it with just a seaglide and 3 ultra high capacity tanks||
|| you also take damage below 500m ||
forest valve
i know
trail ether
|| i got it below 500m. 2 blue prints were in opposite areas than the wiki said....
stop using the wiki as a guide
forest valve
and dont try to make the wiki helpful to others
atleast in terms of showing locations of some not so obvious things
worldly valve
||maybe only swap them when above 500||
But the ship isbentirely below 500m ezcept for a few parts. Espeically before i knee exact location deaths inevitable
forest valve
But the ship isbentirely below 500m ezcept for a few parts. Espeically before i ...
it isnt, wasnt for me
||only like half of it is||
worldly valve
Even with that, and going above 500 to swap
forest valve
its fine, its a very small portion of it
you dont have to go through it again, really
worldly valve
It was just a fristrating part
Took anout a dozen deaths
Made a base nearby
I woulda seamothed closenbut wayyyy to risky
The nest part of the mod was the super imrpoved scan room
Loved that to death
Sad that each room gets way glitchier
But thats subnauticas issue not the mod
forest valve
The nest part of the mod was the super imrpoved scan room
so that's whats doing that?
i was kinda confused that my scanner module chip let it also scn stuff around me
not around the scanner room itself
thats really epic
worldly valve
It adds a lot more then that too
It eas essentisly to find most of the mods fragments
Since basically all of them have exact counts
Eccept like
|| nano lathing drone?||
I think i got a duplicate data box at one point as well
forest valve
||im pretty sure i got duplicate bioproc fragments||
worldly valve
Oh yeah those ones for sure
A lot of the mods stuffnhave exact count
With the
|| mushrrom cave one|| being a bit rough
But also the most hilarious pda imo
|| im about to die but also lemme just monologue for 5 mins||
forest valve
|| mushrrom cave one|| being a bit rough
eh, a few o2 tanks makes any 10 scannables in one place kinda trivial
worldly valve
It wasnt rhe air
It the windy
Windeyness
Ezto miss one
Super scan rooms.make ezpz tho
Tho they do scan fragments you have scanned but eh
nova saddle
||in a location with extensive life||
I need another hint
silk pond
||in the same biome as a lifepod that had a very unlucky fate||
nova saddle
||in the same biome as a lifepod that had a very unlucky fate||
|| many had that kind of fate 😅 ||
silk pond
srry
forest valve
jus keep that in mind
silk pond
k
nova saddle
Thanks 
@silk pond
worldly valve
That's a strange rule
past geyser
its their Project Page
forest valve
That's a strange rule
if you worked hard on making puzzles for players to solve, you'd think the same yoo
too*
worldly valve
I dont nescesarily agree with that
I would argue player experience is more important than developer intended experience
forest valve
well how would player experience be good if they dont figure stuff out themselves
instead of asking for help over and over without trying to solve the problem
like at that point youre just playing someone else's game instead of playing it yourself
worldly valve
Because this mod has a lot of frustrating elements
past geyser
@worldly valve then go make a wiki page you control this is the modders project page
worldly valve
Player choice is always infinitely more importany than dev intentions
worldly valve
It is very outer wildsy sure
nova saddle
|| can azurite respawn? ||
worldly valve
But ther eisnnothing wrong eith hints
forest valve
its more of a thinking mod
worldly valve
The hintd used were direct from the site
past geyser
i call it a Big Giant Ester egg hunt
forest valve
yep
especially the sections that need you to check a specific point or small part of a biomr
past geyser
its like saying " Don't Miss your Shot ." which to me would be the gun
forest valve
But ther eisnnothing wrong eith hints
hints are fine, just not ones that get you too close
or ones with only one obvious place
past geyser
they really need in a leader and then show like a circle around the area to search
forest valve
yes
past geyser
kind of like assassion creed
its like brings you the area but doesn't define the locaton just the search area
forest valve
yep
worldly valve
Its a strange rule that only serves to alienate players
past geyser
How i would treat SeatoSea would be like an rpg ,, search everywhere no matter the importants its lore heavy
nova saddle
But ther eisnnothing wrong eith hints
luck simulator
past geyser
@worldly valve and thats your opinion and thats ok
forest valve
How i would treat SeatoSea would be like an rpg ,, search everywhere no matter t...
if its interesting lorewise, then you should have interest in it
past geyser
if its not its a good place to hide stuff
forest valve
yes
trail ether
so use it carefully
as of some months ago I added a huge supply of it in the very late game so that you need not be quite so stingy with it for fear of running out in the endgame
forest valve
as of some months ago I added a huge supply of it in the very late game so that ...
oh damn
trail ether
think the kind of environment it spawns in, writ very large
nova saddle
think the kind of environment it spawns in, writ *very* large
|| it would be nice if they could be dragged by seamoth, and reprocessed using a rock crusher ||
unreal flame
(Even prior to the update there wasn’t any real need to be stingy with it, there was more than enough to meet all progression needs and fill one of every useful tool with an azurite battery)
trail ether
your lack of comment on this makes me wonder if you are even reading the PDA
trail ether
|| it would be nice if they could be dragged by seamoth, and reprocessed using a...
wrong environment
though you are free to try and extract from those too
just remember their inspiration
unreal flame
lol
forest valve
your lack of comment on this makes me wonder if you are even reading the PDA
yeah, seatosea requires alot of pda reading
(especially when you gotta leave, but we dont talk about that)
nova saddle
though you are free to try and extract from those too
|| you can without prawnsuit? ||
trail ether
Player choice is always infinitely more importany than dev intentions
saying this is to argue against the very concept of game design
a game by definition limits your options
not just because you can only do what has actually been programmed into the game
unreal flame
|| you can without prawnsuit? ||
||It’d be funny if you could push those around with the repulsion cannon||
forest valve
||It’d be funny if you could push those around with the repulsion cannon||
||it would also ve really funny if you can use them as some sort of supercharged rock to throw at things||
trail ether
but because the very nature of cause-and-effect or requirements is by definition limiting your freedoms
forest valve
||it would also ve really funny if you can use them as some sort of supercharged...
not really a spoiler but i think its a funny idea
it just makes a big bang when hitting something
nova saddle
||It’d be funny if you could push those around with the repulsion cannon||
ooooo, || I thought that if the seamoth couldn't pull them, the propulsion cannon wouldn't be able to either ||
trail ether
is vanilla SN bad because it "forces" you to surface for air periodically? After all, if "player choice is infinitely more important", why can the player not just freely choose to breathe water?
is any game with crafting (SN, MC, Factorio, etc) bad because the recipes dictate that you can only craft X if you have Y and Z? What if the player chooses to craft X from potatoes instead?
nova saddle
||it would also ve really funny if you can use them as some sort of supercharged...
|| Use them as a power generators ||
trail ether
||It’d be funny if you could push those around with the repulsion cannon||
I specifically blocked that - it worked by default
nova saddle
trail ether
Player choice is always infinitely more importany than dev intentions
whether you consciously realize or not, you saying this is - as it always is whenever someone says it - not about "player choice is more important than dev choice", it is purely about you thinking your preferences should override that of others
forest valve
|| Use them as a power generators ||
nah it would be funny if you can fling it at things to have a similar effect to the repulsion cannon
trail ether
you are not complaining because of some principled stance of "players should not be forced to do something they would not naturally do", because noone actually thinks that if they think about it for ten seconds
you are complaining because you are being forced to do something you did not want to do
forest valve
nah it would be funny if you can fling it at things to have a similar effect to ...
or have it make a big zap, kinda like a smaller scale piezocrystal explosion
worldly valve
https://i.imgur.com/teKyEpT.jpg
Im not sure which hint this is for? I havent asked a dirext question about location of things. I found most things on my own save for speed module and the breathing stuff below 500m and one other blueprint inforget name of but know whwre i found it ||
forest valve
(far smaller scale probably)
trail ether
Im not sure which hint this is for? I havent asked a dirext question about locat...
you have completely missed the point of my sending that
you specifically compared C2C to Outer Wilds
forest valve
you have completely missed the point of my sending that
trail ether
having played the latter you should therefore be intimately familiar with something in that image
humble island
been really enjoying c2c so thanks for making the mod :)
trail ether
a lack of commentary on the matter implies having not seen one of them
and given how hard it is to avoid seeing it in OW I lean to that being C2C
trail ether
highlight thing?
trail ether
oh like SF has
unreal flame
Below zero has edge glow on mouse over of objects
worldly valve
whether you consciously realize or not, you saying this is - as it always is whe...
If a player wants a limitation removed, they shoukd have rhe power to remove it
forest valve
it is far too immersion-breaking
ig true
forest valve
If a player wants a limitation removed, they shoukd have rhe power to remove it
enter + oxygen + enter
humble island
quick question for optimization does large quantities of items in lockers lag the game slightly?
unreal flame
If a player wants a limitation removed, they shoukd have rhe power to remove it
Eh, depends on the reason and scope, arguably
trail ether
If a player wants a limitation removed, they shoukd have rhe power to remove it
and where does this stop, where do you draw the line
forest valve
quick question for optimization does large quantities of items in lockers lag th...
legacy is isnt really stable, believe it or not, large wrecks also lag once per second
humble island
legacy is isnt really stable, believe it or not, large wrecks also lag once per ...
yeah that was pretty bad lmfao
trail ether
quick question for optimization does large quantities of items in lockers lag th...
this is not C2C specific but storages are implemented as parenting all the items' GOs to the storage GO, so large storages will have more objects "loaded"
plus of course UI rendering lag, though that is not too bad unless yuou are using a giant lockers mod
humble island
yeah alr thanks for the help
worldly valve
The there is more to explore here?
unreal flame
Yes
forest valve
it actively tells you to look around some more
worldly valve
I read most all the pdas
I wouldnt ever assoiate that lune with outer wilds tbh
Its fsirly common tool
trail ether
I wouldnt ever assoiate that lune with outer wilds tbh
...
past geyser
most people want A BIG ARROW POINTING right at the thing because laziness is common
worldly valve
The hints in the game are grwat mostly
trail ether
you mean the line that appears in every single entry of hte ship computer and most of their promotional material is unknown to you?
worldly valve
you mean the line that appears in every single entry of hte ship computer *and m...
I didnt say that
Not even close
Please dint change my words
past geyser
lol MAke them pay for hints in money they need to collect
trail ether
yes you did, by saying about that line, almost a tagline for the game, "I wouldnt ever assoiate that lune with outer wilds tbh"
worldly valve
Being a late addotion