#Deep Sea Trawling has problems in a party, but would be easy to fix!

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grand canyon
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We are a semi-casual 5-man GIM. I really enjoy activities that can contribute to my group, so I had fun being ahead of my group in sailing level and then taking the gang on a large group-charting expedition. I was similarly excited for deep sea trawling.

I used the new sailing island with rune rocks to grind out a second rune ship, and did the cannon work to farm cotton nets & a chum spreader. I convinced the group to all get 84 sailing 87 fishing, which is pretty steep. Bluefins are strong though, so it seemed worth. We also used the new super fish pots, which are a winner.

Trawling seems the perfect activity to do with friends: one drives, one moves the nets, everyone fish! Unfortunately, we discovered that the "navigator" can only drive the ship on the rudder, not give orders to the NPC like the captain can.

This would require them getting off the nets regularly, and missing out on all the fishing that happens while the boat is moving. So I ended up doing both tasks, while my party could not help & sat on the nets with a several-minute AFK. The night was still a success, but could be improved.

The below suggestions are edited down for discord length. I posted a full version here:
https://reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1rfjywj

My most important change:

  1. Let the host allow guests to give crewmates commands.

This would allow one guest to tell best girl Spotter Virginia where to go, while I operate the nets. This would make group trawling a very chill activity.

Less important changes:

  1. Trawl nets are a bit of a noob trap.
  2. Trawl crates have some rough edges.
  3. Fathom stone / pearls should reduce the need for plugins.

Broader suggestions:

  1. Boat permissions ought to be simpler.
  2. Boat permissions ought to be clearer.
  3. Explain boat permissions prominently in-game.
slate patio
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Why did you need the NPC involved here? Couldn't just you or your mate be on the rudder and the other lowering or raising the nets?

grand canyon
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OK so, solo trawling works like this: NPC 1 drives, NPC 2 operates the chum, NPC 3 fishes left net, player fishes right net.

When you have multiple players, we're all fishing on the same net. If one of the players is sitting on the rudder, he's not able to fish until the boat stops. He'd lose out on ~1/3rd the fish roughly

bronze rapids
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How can multiple players fish in the same net? Is there an advantage to this?

Regardless, I haven’t tried group deep sea trawling myself, but it is my favorite part of sailing, and I’d want to see it work seamlessly.

grand canyon
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So a trawling net appears to support either one NPC, or any number of players.

When multiple people are fishing from the same net, they each catch individually into their own net counter - the best nets (cotton) can catch up to 5 at once and hold up to 250. Each player periodically hits "collect-from" and sends the fish to the common hold.

You want fish crates in your hold to do this, because they stack up 10 fish. So a camphor cargo hold can hold like 2000 fish before having to dock.

That's how we did it, and with super fishing pots we were getting about 600 bluefin / hour / person. Which is pretty great IMO

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You can go faster with spam-clicking but that's crazy IMO.

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Overall it's a pretty fun activity. For us the advantage is only one person had to make a trawling boat + grind out the mats for boat, nets, chum spreader. And it's fun to hang with your friends on a boat 🙂

bronze rapids
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600 is without spamming, wow that’s great. Yeah this is fantastic for GIMs

pale scroll
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They need to just get rid of spam click, it's supposed to be the "tick manipulation" method but it's laughably awful compared to tick manipulation and just emulates the worst aspects of pickpocketing - mouse locked to one specific spot on the screen with no ability to deviate without significant losses.

grand canyon
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I agree the spam click isn't great, though my guess is very few people actually do it for trawling. You have to move the boat to follow the shoal, so you'd have to be adjusting the camera & such as well. Probably rare

hollow forge
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i’m 3/6 big fish from trawling and I do spam click, even when following the shoal, but I don’t always do it- very easy to switch between how much effort you put in