game-questions

[golden dome]

...doubt I'll ever get the set, I'm only going for quest cape and perhaps eeking out what I can out of the achievement diaries and combat achievements if there's time left in my membership

[indigo geode]

It is suuuuper nice gear to use for training tbh

Almost overpowered for how easy it is to get/buy

[fervent crow]

is bro wearing a foresters backpack instead of an actual cape

lmao

[wet lodge]

if you've done the quest cape you can just farm desert treasure 2 bosses/yama, buy a bond. shouldn't take that long to get the 15 mil

if you are able to get a quest cape there should be multiple decent gp/hr options

[golden dome]

quest cape was my end-goal going into playing the game.

[indigo geode]

That's where the game starts getting good :p

Imo

[golden dome]

well, actually 100%ing the Steam Achievements was, but I never got the quest cape as a kid.

I'm not the type of person who likes getting locked into one game

[solid gale]

Quest cape is a great start, after that you get the diary cape, and then the game begins :D

[indigo geode]

Yeee that's fair, same tbh

Which is why I usually have osrs on the 2nd monitor haha

[wet lodge]

Surely defeating every boss once is a better goal ;p

[golden dome]

backlog too big for that.

[indigo geode]

This is the way

[wet lodge]

well the nice thing is runescape will still be there if you ever come back

just leave some gp to buy a bond in your bank when you quit

actually can you just buy a bond and store? might be safer if inflation/price changes happen

[golden dome]

I don't even have a second monitor. My AFKing is done alt Alt+Tab and checking back based on audio queues or multitasking with stuff that takes like 15-30 seconds

[weak orchid]

Id buy a 2nd monitor

[junior plume]

wdym out of stock? 😭

[wet lodge]

Damn ironmen, they ruined ironmen

[obsidian pasture]

Grum buys jewelry

[golden dome]

I had a used one I bought for $20, but it stopped working

[obsidian pasture]

You WANT him to be out of stuck since that means he pays more

[junior plume]

the shop stocks are shared between players?

or its just this shop

[obsidian pasture]

Most shops

[[grum's gold exchange]]

[half slate]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Grum's_Gold_Exchange.

[wet lodge]

most shop stocks are shared

ironmen can't buy stuff that was sold by other players

[obsidian pasture]

Grum specifically does not sell any jewelry, he just buys it from you for more money than it's worth

[junior plume]

world doesnt matter i assume?

[simple root]

How do I turn on the chewed bone drop

am I being dumb?

[obsidian pasture]

World does matter

[junior plume]

oh? so he might have stuff on other worlds?

[weak orchid]

Just bad rng

[wet lodge]

yeah, but its not uncommon for some shops to be bought out on all worlds (gems usually)

[obsidian pasture]

No, Grum never has anything on any world. Please read what I said

[junior plume]

?

[obsidian pasture]

As an ironman, you cannot buy from Grum. He starts at 0

[junior plume]

im not on ironman

[golden dome]

you said it does matter xD

[junior plume]

idk why i have that role 💀

[wet lodge]

lol

[obsidian pasture]

Probably because you picked it

As a NON-ironman, don't buy from grum

He's very expensive

Buy from the grand exchange instead

[obsidian pasture]

It matters for selling, not for buying

[lapis bolt]

Is there a way to permanently change the color of skin in osrs? Been trying to rp as a goblin merchant. Would love to figure out if i can make my skin color to green.

[obsidian pasture]

Yes!

[lapis bolt]

How do i do that?

[obsidian pasture]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Makeover

[lapis bolt]

Ive been solo running a goblin merchant guild, and ive made 45m from it in 4 days.

[obsidian pasture]

You need to finish the halloween event to unlock green

[lapis bolt]

Perfect! Is the halloween event available off season?

[obsidian pasture]

Nope

[lapis bolt]

Mf

Aight guess there aint no easy way to it. Gives me a goal to work towards!! Tysm!!

[obsidian pasture]

Good luck

[lapis bolt]

🫡

[rare stream]

i think i found a bug. if you are trying to finish the western diary that requires you to make food for delivery, and you have eternal sustenance you end up having to prepare things twice.

and im making sure to right click to use vs clicking it causing eating.

im going to try to log out and see it will somehow reset it. I cant think of what else to do because now im stuck. it made me make things twice for getting a job, now i cant seem to make 2. this is weird.

[strange dragon]

You spend a silly amount time to prepare a slayer block list for extended metal dragons, grind out out huey for DHW and runecraft enough blood runes to stay there for ever then proceed to get it the DFH on the first task as a raw drop worked for me™

[rare stream]

btw this cooking/delivery thing is h o r r i b l e

[obsidian pasture]

It's fine once you get some practice

[rare stream]

well i restarted and it let me actually make things 🙂

i didnt see a way to toggle off eternal sustenance, so im thankful a restart worked

[queen yew]

How do i get out of the very centre bit of Puro Puro into the other sections of the maze? It seesm completely sealed!

[obsidian pasture]

Talk to the guy for a tutorial. Right click wheat

[queen yew]

Yep, just saw the push-through option..... duh! Thank you

[obsidian pasture]

You can make it so the push through option gives you strength experience

[lost cobalt]

Where can I post questions for today’s Q&A? Iirc there used to be a sailing-questions section specifically for this purpose

[obsidian pasture]

#1435267194626773113 #1435267582516134040 #sailing-chat all seem appropriate

[deep cobalt]

is there a certain chat where I can ask others to join/help with a quest?

[obsidian pasture]

Yes!

s!soa

[daring spindle]

Shield of Arrav / Heroes Quest

If you are looking for a partner for the Shield of Arrav or Heroes' Quest, join the chat channel osrs soa and they can assist you there.

[obsidian pasture]

It's in-game

[deep cobalt]

sweet! thank you guys😎

[quiet flax]

What would be a good price to sell a bond for rn?

[strange dragon]

[[bond]]

[half slate]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Old_school_bond

[strange dragon]

price shows on wiki

I think it also lists the right price when you put it up for sale on the GE

[obsidian pasture]

Click the live price button https://prices.runescape.wiki/osrs/item/13190

[severe hare]

14,974,998 for instant sell. Or you can probably put it at 14,998,998 and wait for it to sell

[gusty carbon]

how do i activate the mobs ive built down here?

[onyx tangle]

need to turn on challenge mode

[severe hare]

The lever in your PoH throne room right?

[onyx tangle]

^^

[gusty carbon]

do i need a floor trap built to activate the lever?

[severe hare]

No

That’s only to drop guests into the oubilette

just right-click the lever and select “challenge mode”

[gusty carbon]

i see it now

i didnt right click it

sweet

[dusty mantle]

I don't understand the superior arraxyte. He throws his green goo, I spam click a venom sack and still get whopped for 50 hp.

do you need to pray range or something as well?

[strange dragon]

I typically just safespot it when it spawns

Bypass all mechanics

[sharp stag]

Is there a way to get all 24 untrimmed skillcapes, and how would i go about it if so?

[midnight gorge]

hello. aren't you supposed to have a 100% success rate for harpoonfish at tempoross with a dragon harpoon at 86 fishing or is that info outdated on the wiki?

I'm at 86 fishing and I keep catching nothing sometimes

[trim marsh]

There is not, u can do one

[obsidian pasture]

Are you actually using the dragon harpoon or are you accidentally barehand fishing?

[midnight gorge]

I am using the dragon harpoon

[obsidian pasture]

No clue what's going wrong!

[abstract iris]

Where does it say you have a 100% catch rate?

[midnight gorge]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Raw_harpoonfish

[wet lodge]

you could record a clip of it, but you should have 100% rate at 86

it's been a while since i've done tempoross but the rates seem pretty accurate

[abstract iris]

Hmm interesting.

[wet lodge]

only thing i can think of is that you are fishing after the pool has disappeared

[sharp stag]

sadge, Can I store it somewhere so i don't have to drop and telegrab it everytime i get a new 99?

[wet lodge]

like your character will keep doing the catching animation but the fishing spot has moved, so you can't catch anything

[midnight gorge]

ye I understand but it varies when it happens

[silver plover]

Is there a way to transfer half a membership to a different account cuz I accidentally put to payments on the same account when I was supposed to put it on two different accounts

[midnight gorge]

sometimes its the first catch

[fervent crow]

you can try contacting support but no easy way no

[silver plover]

Okie dokie

[trim marsh]

Afaik no

[obsidian pasture]

You can store in death's office

Keep in mind that it'll start deleting items if there are more than 120 slots

[slow pivot]

yeah but cannot get different skill to also untrimmed cape unless jagex removes your xp and doesnt delete old skill cape

[jade otter]

Anyone know how much sailing we're going to need to finish the next quest? Need to maintain my QC

[obsidian pasture]

52 sailing

[jade otter]

Hero. Thank you. No skilling required, thank you tears of guthix.

[obsidian pasture]

Hell yeah

[surreal hollow]

what's so special about fossil island underwater area that medallion of the deep won't work there? I don't know much about it at all, is there some legit balancing logic?

[obsidian pasture]

Jagex thought players might not want the medallion of the deep to work there

[surreal hollow]

why would they think that?

is there any reason to justify it?

[obsidian pasture]

Here's the discussion with Mod Ash #old-school message

[surreal hollow]

thank you :)

[weary valve]

Jagex don't like changing skilling methods to make them better

[dusty nova]

dude wtf is up with the only getting 3 herbs in a patch? wtf is this

ive gotten it a couple times in last runs

[surreal hollow]

I just saw the medallion and the only thing it made me think of was doing seaweed runs after birdhouse runs without a fish bowl and apparatus, which it's useless for

[surreal hollow]

are you using magic secateurs and ultra compost?

[dusty nova]

yes

thats why im liek wtf

is one of the patches more liekly to give less herbs or something?

im returning after a long time

im kinda fumbling through meory to do stuff

[obsidian pasture]

No, but some herb patches can have an extra chance to save harvest lives

[surreal hollow]

what's your farming level?

[dusty nova]

99

[obsidian pasture]

In any case, the MINIMUM herbs you can get from a patch is 3, so you're just getting unlucky

[surreal hollow]

and you're wearing your farming cape too?

[dusty nova]

and i think i have all the no disease unlocks

ya

[surreal hollow]

that's crazy unlucky lol

[dusty nova]

XD

lol

[obsidian pasture]

Use this calculator to see your expected output: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ranarr_seed#Average_harvest_yield

(Keep in mind that if you don't use resurrect crops, iasor tends to give you better output than attas)

[surreal hollow]

maybe it's because the herbs were planted a long time ago and they were in some bugged state. you said you just returned after a long time so

spaghetti code is delicious

[dusty nova]

i did runs all day yesterday

i been getting boned on each run though maybe i forgot something

[junior plume]

is recipe for disaster kind of some breakpoint quest?

[inner granite]

League shop open tmmrw? In main game**

[floral swallow]

Minimum is 6 with ultracompost, you just forgot to use it

[dusty nova]

i dont know about bbreak point butt its the goal i tell new players to allways shoot for because you need so many rounded stats and bunch of other quests, ahs a bit of unique combat in it etc. you do get good gloves for the first time during it though

[dusty nova]

ok i must just be fucking it up then that makes much mro sense iw as so careful my lsat 3 runs but its easy for me to miss it anyway

[surreal hollow]

barrows gloves and access to spicy stews for +5 skilling boosts is very important for irons

[dusty nova]

@junior plume

i always forgot to ask people if they are iron big difference

[surreal hollow]

even if not an iron, the other tiers of gloves are great for low risk wildy activities

[prime gale]

it's more like, doing it comfortably means you're ready for the 'next level' of the game and pvm

[dusty nova]

ima start wording this way lol

doing herb runsa nd birdhouses eats so much time if you try to do it regularly

do you guys all do them multiple times per day?

or it just a once in a while thing

[wind dragon]

how do I get the normal layout when i press my skill icons?

[ancient adder]

i am brand new to this game. Should my first experience with the game be an ironman?

[surreal hollow]

if im playing all day and im doing low intensity activities like skilling then ill do herb/birdhouse runs every 90 mins or so.. if im doing higher intensity activities then I do one at the start of the day and one at the end of the day, maybe a 3rd run in the middle during a break. I hate the sequence break for many activities but otherwise I love farming runs

[hallow crypt]

no it is not recommended

[wet lodge]

barrow gloves are just really really good mid-game gloves that can still be useful in the late game.

if you need a glove that covers all 3 styles

[dusty nova]

i woudl highly reccomend aggainst it

[hallow crypt]

It's best to start with a normal account get familiar with the game and if you want to make an ironman after you can create a second character on your jagex account.

[dusty nova]

this is excatly what im thinking so perfect ty

[wet lodge]

You can if you wish, ironman upsides is that you get to engage with ALL the content in the game, but the downside is you are FORCED to engage with ALL the content. even if its not that fun to do

[ancient adder]

yea so far what ive been doing is i made a non ironman and have been treating it like an ironman

thank you guys

[surreal hollow]

my main is an iron. my new player experience is starting as an iron. it's fun but challenging, don't do it unless you like slow progression because the grinds will be long

[wet lodge]

perfectly acceptable, i think some people do bronzemans even

where they can buy any item as long as they obtained it once

[dusty nova]

my buddy maxed his chracter as a normy and basically played as an iron, when he occasioinally hit a wall he was able to buy stuff or if he really hated getting a certain material he coudlu buy it or skip it... thats a fun wayt o play for a lot of people

[ancient adder]

i read on reddit i should really enjoy the experience of not knowing what to do and exploring because once that goes away it never comes back

[dusty nova]

you can always put any restriction on yourself you want , but being a normy allows you to not do stuff you dont have fun with

[prime gale]

main is the 'get to the fun part' mode, iron is the 'scholarly' mode

[wet lodge]

Play however you find fun. Personally I really like using the quest helper cause my god these quests can be borderline insane

[surreal hollow]

if you're curious you can give it a try starting as an iron until you hit a grind wall and then consider de-ironing

[dusty nova]

i never saw a poitn in iron since i did thin i would do everythign on normy so if i cant do it all without restctions why woudl i srestrict

everyoen plays osrs their way

[wet lodge]

Like a quest will just drop this on you outta nowhere

im sorry im too stupid to do it myself

[surreal hollow]

I love quest helper

[dusty nova]

and i literally wouldnt do quests without it

lol

quests are aids

most fo them

bu lot of people say its once of the games greatest assets

[oblique scaffold]

It wasn't too bad, but it was vague to figure out at first. When I saw the puzzle the second time (While Guthix Sleeps I think?) I turned Quest Helper back on

[wet lodge]

Yeah it hits you with the random shapes machine later

this is wizardry, i have no clue how it works

[surreal hollow]

just wait until the new raid has this shapes machine integrated into it

[oblique scaffold]

There's a color and side conversion rate basically

[ancient adder]

Im experimenting with quest helper and it kinda pmo sometimes when i accidentally spoil the solution. I try to challenge myself.

[wet lodge]

me just click the shapes quest helper says, eventually i got past it

also the slide puzzles

[oblique scaffold]

Yeah, some puzzles I turned off quest helper before going into this. Like recruitment drive, this one, etc.

[wet lodge]

like brother my IQ is not high enough to bother with slide puzzles

[surreal hollow]

slide puzzles are so boring

if they weren't autosolved with plugins i would just drop the clue scrolls

[wet lodge]

bunch of the slide puzzles also have step limits so you have to do the perfect solve basically

[oblique scaffold]

What do you mean a step limit

[wet lodge]

The gnome glider slide puzzle, you have to win in 50

moves

or something like that

[oblique scaffold]

Never heard of that, but I've only solved the hard-level ones on mobile

So the castle mostly

[wet lodge]

monkey madness one has the moves limit i'm pretty sure

its also one you can just pay GP to skip

lol

[ancient adder]

so if i want to challenge myself i should go into quest with quest helper turned off comepletely? Not on with the lowest setting?

[past harness]

Hello, is commander Zilyana hard boss? I got my first boss task on her and im not sure how many to choose

[oblique scaffold]

I didn't play around with settings, so it's kind of your call.

[onyx tangle]

No but a bit stat checky/gear checky

[wet lodge]

You can just turn it to the lower settings if you want to do the puzzles yourself

[surreal hollow]

the people telling you how to play the game are just nostalgic of when they played the game 10+ years ago without plugins and had to do everything "the right way" play however u want to

[wet lodge]

back in my day we had to watch a guide with UNREGISTERED HYPERCAM 2 on youtube and pause the video as we followed along

;p

[surreal hollow]

you can enjoy runescape as a new player with minimal investment in the story, you can read summaries later too if you feel like skipping through all the dialogue to get whatever unlock you want from it faster

the quests make it pretty clear when stuff is getting serious, and if you're loosely paying attention you can get reinvested into it

a lot of them are tons of fun

[gleaming zodiac]

you pretty much just ran around the room with protection prayer up, it will depend on the strength of your gear and combat stats

[past harness]

Since its my first time with zilyana i chose 3

[restive tangle]

is there any way to check that i have collected all the extra xp from quests, for example i completed mm2 and i had to go to duke for xp, so something similiar

[dusty nova]

can you get teh effect like with vials that when you consume a butterfly the jar is deleted?

[surreal hollow]

no

[weak timber]

Okay a bit of a weird question. I absolutely suck at fast prayer flicks. But I've got ToA 200's down. Phantom Muspah, Duke, Vorkath are all easy for me. But I absolutely cannot manage Doom of Makhaiotl. It's just a bit too difficult for me. Is there any raids or bosses I should attempt that are around the same level as maybe ToA 250 in difficulty, but easier than DoM? Preferably that are worth doing.

[wheat spear]

yama

[surreal hollow]

how much easier is yama than doom?

[wheat spear]

doom scales in difficulty so its hard to say but hes like as hard as a delve 5

but i think getting down the orb timing and stuff is a lot more tricky than learning yama p3 tho

if u wanna break into miidgame pvm tho ur gonna have to struggle a good bit tho theres not really any other way

yama p3 isnt too different conceptually from p4 wardens tho so i think if u can do a 250 you can handle yama

[surreal hollow]

should you plan to do yama before doom on an iron?

[wheat spear]

idk

[fervent crow]

yama, all the other DT2 bosses. youd probably manage doom 1-7 if you learn it for a while which is still good money

[wheat spear]

i think for efficient irons theyre at the same point in progression

yea vardorvis is also good

[ornate prawn]

In leagues can I not regenerate a wrath rune at the rune altar in wilderness? I know it doesnt work in PVP but I have the clue step that spawns a guard there. I get the free cast for the wrath spell and I have over 100% rune regen

[surreal hollow]

yeah, just stuff to consider after getting synapses

[fervent crow]

yama gear doesnt help you at doom so idk why. doom gear helps slightly at yama but its not a big deal really

[wheat spear]

irons do melee yma so doom gear doesnt really help at yama much unless u mean treads

[fervent crow]

ye

also many irons dont do melee yama tbf. or at least not all phases

[wheat spear]

but yea like honestly just pick smth that feels too hard for you and spam attempts at it until you beat it once

[fervent crow]

oh well you should definitely get double dc before doom, forgot that. so up to 100 kc which is pretty quick

[wheat spear]

beating yamaa once a couple months ago took me nearly the same aamount of attempts as beating awakened vardorvis once

[surreal hollow]

double dc?

[wheat spear]

you will improve if u just chllenge yourself

double death charge

honestly tho double dc isnt all that you can def do doom very comfortably without it

[shell thicket]

how do i get bolt of cloth for daddy's home miniquest on an iron?

[fervent crow]

wtf, i killed yama on my 2nd try

[surreal hollow]

I didn't even know this was an arceuus spellbook spell lol ty

[fervent crow]

havent done vard though

[onyx tangle]

buy from the sawmill operator

[wheat spear]

awkened vard took me like 25 attempts

[fervent crow]

did you start with melee p3 on yama or why so long

[wheat spear]

the only boss i had done pre yama was vorkath so it was very challenging

[fervent crow]

ah

ye fair

and idk ofc you can do doom without dc but especially if you havent learned it before its insanely more comfy. bigger than most gear upgrades

[onyx tangle]

ye thats a fairly large difficulty spike lol

[grave inlet]

are maniacal monkeys not worth doing for hunter xp? 1k exp per monkey sounds kinda crazy

[vestal ocean]

hi, Im doing the shield of arrav quest and apparently I need the help of another player to complete it. Are there any channels for quests like that?

[onyx tangle]

s!soa

[daring spindle]

Shield of Arrav / Heroes Quest

If you are looking for a partner for the Shield of Arrav or Heroes' Quest, join the chat channel osrs soa and they can assist you there.

[surreal hollow]

s!soa

[daring spindle]

Shield of Arrav / Heroes Quest

If you are looking for a partner for the Shield of Arrav or Heroes' Quest, join the chat channel osrs soa and they can assist you there.

[vestal ocean]

Thanks!

[oak geode]

any decent afk mining better exp than stars? like 1 min at a time ish

ideally without too much stuff to do between trips like the whole motherlode thing

[surreal hollow]

if you have mining gloves then regular mining becomes pretty low intensity

[slow pivot]

calcified rocks i guess

[oak geode]

is that the moons one

[slow pivot]

yes

[short prism]

Amethyst for higher levels

[oak geode]

i'll try both ty

[spice walrus]

Why did jagex charge me for subscription 4 days before my initial membership even ends

I now have 34 days of membership I was going to cancel next month

[surreal hollow]

the same reason you automatically renew without any way to opt out.
the same reason you have to login 2-3 more times to stop auto renewal

[spice walrus]

what

what do you mean without anyway to opt out

[surreal hollow]

when you subscribe there isn't any option to just pay for a single 1 month subscription, everything is auto renewal

[obsidian pasture]

The way you opt out is typically by unsubscribing

[spice walrus]

yes there is?? you can just cancel your membership

[spice walrus]

yeah I was going to do that but I thought I wouldnt need to since i had 4 days left

[oak geode]

you can probably talk to support

[spice walrus]

yeah ill try

[oak geode]

they're more on top of billing issues

[surreal hollow]

Yes, after you get logged out by jagex, and then you have to login again at least 1 more time to cancel your membership. The extra steps are to make sure you forget to unsubscribe in time for renewal.

[muted bane]

Wait, using fine fish offcuts now doesn't do anything while trawling?

[junior plume]

i ahve to carry the staff around every time i want to go to Zanaris?

[obsidian pasture]

Yes

[junior plume]

[obsidian pasture]

Unless you get the Lumbridge Elite achievement diary

[glass burrow]

simply do every quest

[oak geode]

good mid game goal

[weary valve]

Just go via the abyss and cosmic altar to get to Zanaris without staff, ezpz

[vivid oriole]

I can't remember, does runelite have a tracker for things lost in a pk?

[obsidian pasture]

Yes

There are several plugins that track your inventory when you die, or take a screenshot of it

[weary valve]

But he won't tell you the name of any of them

[obsidian pasture]

Well I don't use any of them, so I'm uncomfortable recommending a specific one

[tacit canopy]

brah whys my mass zalcano xph so bad

[abstract iris]

Mass zalcano isn't intended to be a good skilling method to begin with

[vivid oriole]

Are there any videos of someone like odablock getting hundreds- thousand people to all help PJ the same target in multi? Like just hundreds of voidwakers on the same tick just for an experiment? Lol

[light knot]

I am once more thinking about moons of peril, specifically weapons.

I've got a whip for slash. What weapons are good for the other two styles? I have a budget of round about 1.6 mil, and am barrowsing and herb running for cash so cann easily stretch that to 2-3

[wheat spear]

zammy hasta and glacial temotli

[wet lodge]

The colossol blade goes crazy on eclipse moon

if you wanna do giant's foundry and have the spare points

technically free

glacial is cheap and good, if you don't have a dragon defender for some unknown reason you can use the sulphur blades instead of whip

barrow armor is pretty mandatory to make blood moon not feel awful if you got lower melee stats

[light knot]

I do have a dragon defender. I've never done giants foundry beyond the quest but I do need smithing experience so maybe I should go for it

I've got some barrows armour

[wet lodge]

piety is essential

[abstract iris]

The colossal blade isn't worth the effort

[wet lodge]

if you are grinding it

[abstract iris]

Just go with the zamorakian hasta

[wet lodge]

colossal blade is basically free since you gotta grind smithing on your account anyways

[abstract iris]

Piety is 100% recommended though

[obsidian pasture]

Zamorakian hasta is enough for all three moons

[abstract iris]

Its not something for everyone to bother with

[light knot]

Piety is the level 70 prayer, right? I only have 64 and want to grind moons for profit to buy bones

[abstract iris]

And I certainly wouldn't suggest the blade for this context either

[light knot]

I should be okay without it, just slower

[wet lodge]

piety is pretty essential ngl

[obsidian pasture]

Piety helps you more than usual for moons of peril since they want both defense and offense

[wet lodge]

it will speed up your kills by like x2 since blood moon will hit you alot less

[obsidian pasture]

Instead of buying a new weapons, get the bones

[light knot]

Okay 🙂

[wet lodge]

oh also you can run an abyssall dagger when you got more gp (or just take a dragon dagger) for spec attacks on blood moon

abyssal dagger just makes it so you don't gotta weapon swap

if you wanna be lazy

[light knot]

I think I've had belles folly and a crush weapon recommended...

[wet lodge]

probably would be an okay stand in for eclipse. your crush weapon would be the glacial tomatoes

;p

for blue moon

[obsidian pasture]

Belle's Folly is a defensive stab weapon, which is nice, but

You can just use a zamorakian hasta for it

[wet lodge]

hasta is 3 times as much as belee

[obsidian pasture]

Oh since when?

I last remember them being about the same cost

[wet lodge]

hasta is 1.6 mil

folly is like 300k rn

[obsidian pasture]

Wow, belle's folly crashed

[wet lodge]

prob cause why would you ever want a belle when fang exists

and zombie axe exists

[obsidian pasture]

Zamorakian hasta is also slightly cheaper than I remember

[wet lodge]

folly also seems to beat out the hasta big time

in terms of TTK on eclipse

colossol blade does the most of all 3 options

assuming parry phase anyways

[obsidian pasture]

That makes sense. In that phase strength shines regardless of weapon speed

Zamorakian hasta is a four tick weapon

[wet lodge]

nvm i had the damn calc on slash for the hasta

[viral vortex]

Is there an aggression range map for DKs out there? Like a birds eye view of the area overlay.

[wet lodge]

but belle is still better but its closer

[abstract iris]

For the clone phase, I'm pretty sure a dh axe would be better

[wet lodge]

assuming you go low and want to run full dharoks

then yes, its insanely the best

but running dharoks will slow your kills down on blood + blue since it has no str bonus

[onyx tangle]

i think even just DH axe no hp loss/armor still wins but lemme check

[wet lodge]

no armor is slower than belle and hasta and colossol

but its not like horrendous bad it has a 42 max hit

[abstract iris]

Dh axe is 105 strength while the colossal blade is 100 strength so the axe is marginally better for clones even without the set

[wet lodge]

colossol gets extra max hits since eclipse is a 5x5 mob

[abstract iris]

So no real reason to go for the blade unless there's immediate plans to do a lot of smithing training too

[onyx tangle]

isnt it 1x1

[wet lodge]

its a 51 max hit vs DH 42

no

[abstract iris]

Oh interesting

[wet lodge]

even in parry it still counts as a big boy

i think eclipse is literally the only content colossal is good for

[onyx tangle]

Interesting ok

[wet lodge]

everywhere else the 6 tick attack speed makes it worse

and its a funny weapon, it makes me smile to smack eclipse with it

[obsidian pasture]

It's nice for punishing tormented demons

[abstract iris]

Seems like it

[wet lodge]

wouldn't a godsword be better punish on demons?

since they are like 2x2?

[obsidian pasture]

Sure, but those are really expensive

[abstract iris]

Its a nice to have for moons I guess, but given how grindy it is to get the blade, its not really something worth grinding specifically for eclipse moons

[wet lodge]

oh true

[onyx tangle]

unless youre an iron DH axe is bis punish

[wet lodge]

oh yeah, its mostly that if you are grinding to 70 smithing for song of the elves or to 87 for all diaries you will have plenty of spare points

to buy it

[abstract iris]

👍

GF is a neat minigame though

I like it way more than BF

[wet lodge]

it's easier for me to sit down and grind smithing when i can tell myself "only gotta make 10 swords"

[abstract iris]

[weary spire]

quick question, is blowpipe or fang better for Warden P3?

[abstract iris]

One of these days, I'll go back and get the blade unlocked

[rigid bronze]

i think blowpipe if u bgs

[abstract iris]

Most likely the bp, but throw your setup in the dps calc to confirm it

[rigid bronze]

if no bgs warden i think fang

[onyx tangle]

think its invo and gear dependent

[abstract iris]

^

Too many variables

[rigid bronze]

also that yea

[weary spire]

150 mixed hide

[onyx tangle]

dragon darts?

[abstract iris]

Also, what other weapons do you have?

[weary spire]

amethyst

[abstract iris]

Neither the bp or fang is generally used for p3 even on budget setups

[weary spire]

huh

i posted yesterday, hold on

[abstract iris]

Most budget would go with dragon crossbow with ruby bolts

[onyx tangle]

oh p3

[onyx tangle]

idk why i read p1

[abstract iris]

Your crossbow should be more effective

What's your ranged level?

[weary spire]

even in p4?

[rigid bronze]

dps calc it

[weary spire]

uhhh enough that i hit a lot of 0s lmao

1 sec

cmon bro i just wanna check my range lvl

[abstract iris]

Do you have rigour?

[weary spire]

89

yeah i got 87 pray lmao

my stats are good, the problem is that i am not

i gave up on toa a while ago, but then this happened yesterday on my first full run in months and now i'm mad so i'm gonna complete it today

[abstract iris]

Ouch

https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=GrainBittermScribbled

Not sure what your melee stats are, but I set them to 90 attack and strength here

[wet lodge]

pretty sure every level in ranged is like a 2-3% dps increase or something like that

so even from 89 to 99 is a jump

[weary spire]

99 strength lol

[abstract iris]

Btw I also throw in a 20 bgs spec reduction

So it looks like the crossbow is still better

[weary spire]

fang slight edge

should i use the xbow for p4 for ease or nah

[abstract iris]

I'd suggest the crossbow still since being stuck with melee on p4 is really limiting

[weary spire]

ok yeah

[abstract iris]

But give both a try

[weary spire]

mfw i am now realising if i used xbow instead of bp yesterday we wouldnt be having this conversation

[abstract iris]

😅

[weary spire]

one last thing: another issue i was debating is that yesterday i elected to try getting those last couple hits instead of spamming nectar and risking prolonging the fight; would spam healing have saved me, or was i screwed either way at that point?

[rigid bronze]

you'd have to spam necter and also dodge

at the same time

otherwise if u took damage and nectared down your stats would be drained

and u also didnt "heal"

were u salted up

[weary spire]

yeah ok i think a trap i sometimes fall into is spam healing but neglecting other things hence i decided to just go for it

i think i was stilly salty

cant remember tho

[rigid bronze]

you should have plenty of salt cause u go power into life

u salt for the last 2 rooms and then save the other salt for warden

and then take life for ambros

and brews/restores

[tidal falcon]

Evening all I have just got Robin hood hat in a hard scroll, it's only 1+ on range over my Karils which is my best ranged gear and all other stats I lose out on. I should sell it right?

[weary spire]

oh yeah i know i still had some salt i just dont know if it was active at that point

[rigid bronze]

also if u arent already doing it

to make it easier are u running bkaz?

[weary spire]

yeah

[rigid bronze]

(the meta order)

perfect

then yea i think if u are gonna nectar

u have to dodge while doing so

[weary spire]

i think in panic mode i probably wouldve neglected to do so successfully so maybe it wouldntve mattered

[weary spire]

if you'd rather spend the gp on somethin else sure, if you have some gp to spare may as well hang on to it

it's not an issue of should you sell it, depends on your needs

[rigid bronze]

id also work ur way out of mixed hide

and use stuff like torso/blood moon melee armour

[weary spire]

i dont really like degrading equipment

[signal pendant]

guys help me out!

[light knot]

Roughly how much can I expect to spend going from 64 to 70 prayer?

[signal pendant]

when i try to expand the plugin side my client get smaller, how can i fix that

wait let me help sophie first

sophie what bones

[rigid bronze]

thats silly, its like 40-50 hours of use before it degrades

and its only a few mil to repair when u make billions off raids

[signal pendant]

@light knot what bones wich altar

[rigid bronze]

the cost is hardly gonna matter

[weary spire]

gives me less anxiety over using it effectively lol

[rigid bronze]

trust me

you can probably pay for the repairs with 1 herb run a day

lmao

[weary spire]

and i'm not looking to make billions of raids, it's just somethin i want to get my first kc in for now

ew herb runs

[rigid bronze]

well there thats why ur so scared of losing minimal gp

you use money at content that makes money

= never have to worry about spending money

trust me

[weary spire]

yeah and right now toa is a gp sink lol, i've lost millions already

[rigid bronze]

how did u lose millions

are u not turning on death invos so u can leave before ur final death

[weary spire]

not trying to argue against you bc i know you're probably mostly correct, just a personal thing for now

[weary spire]

supplies

[rigid bronze]

so u dont have to pay for the fees

[light knot]

I guess dragon bones at the wilderness chaos altar?

[rigid bronze]

millions....
so you've attempted the raid like over 100 times?

[light knot]

Or at a poh?

[rigid bronze]

supplies dont account for that much

[weary spire]

and i triggered the death thing a couple times

[rigid bronze]

ah

there we go

[weary spire]

by accidentally leaving at the wrong time

[rigid bronze]

so that does add up to millions then

lol

okay that makes sense

[obsidian pasture]

Use this calculator https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Prayer

[weary spire]

also sara brews are expensive lol

[onyx tangle]

If you find a partner for the raid itll b a lot easier learning and less money lost

[light knot]

Thank you!

[weary spire]

using a full inv on saras/super restores is like 100k right there

[rigid bronze]

they are but usually the final loot thats not a purple covers the cost

[weary spire]

yeah i get that but for now i'm just trying to get my first solo kc

[weary spire]

yeah and i've never completed it lmao

[rigid bronze]

i think charges wise i spend about 400k a raid clearing it
and normal rewards give like 300-400k ish

maybe 200k

so barely lose money

[signal pendant]

1.9m ~ on wildy alter - 3.1m on poh ~

[rigid bronze]

and then purples will make u back most of it and then profit

[light knot]

Eesh... Oh man that's a lot of money

[obsidian pasture]

You can do it for 600k if you use ensouled heads

[onyx tangle]

Fair enough i respect it

[weary spire]

just do bone shards instead

[rigid bronze]

are u keeping up with ur herb runs

[obsidian pasture]

Bone shards are more expensive than the wilderness altar

[rigid bronze]

usually that should pay it off

[light knot]

I am.

[rigid bronze]

i wouldnt worry about spending then tbh

[wet lodge]

ensouled heads was miserable, i know some swear by it but no thanks from me

[rigid bronze]

you're gonna make more money back

[weary spire]

oh and get your zealot's robes first

[signal pendant]

70 - 74 prayers are the biggest dps upgrades in game

rigour = love rigour = life

20m right now

[rigid bronze]

rigour scroll costs another 14m atm

i think

oh 20m

[obsidian pasture]

Yeah, ensouled heads are a lot cheaper

[light knot]

Oh man

[obsidian pasture]

But they take like

[weary spire]

zealot's robes + babydragon/wyrm/wyvern into bone shards = cheap fast prayer xp

[obsidian pasture]

More than 10x the time

[light knot]

It takes me like a week to make a few mil

[ancient helm]

why doesnt endless harvest work on daeyalt essence?

[onyx tangle]

Its because thats why

[light knot]

A good herb run is 48 herbs, so about 100k

[wet lodge]

blessed bone shards from 64-74 is about 2.2 mil

[light knot]

I am... So very not ready for moons, then. 😭

[weary spire]

depends on the method you use

[weary spire]

see:

[weary spire]

nah moons is piss easy

[wet lodge]

well just getting to 70 is half that at like 1.2 mil with blessed bone shards (wyrmling bones)

thats for piety

[weary spire]

i find moons relaxing, and that's as someone who is clearly exceptionally awful at the game

[light knot]

Apparently I need to spend like 2 mil on prayer xp for piety, another 2 mil on weapons for stab and crush, and then do the quest

[wet lodge]

1.2 mil for piety. The weapons are like 300k for belle, 100k for sulphur blades, 100k for glacial tomotials for crush

[oak geode]

money comes naturally as you keep playing, don't stress and just think of them as goals

[wheat spear]

you can use chivalry to do moons for a bit and make a couple mil

[oak geode]

it's not like you die irl if you don't have piety right this moment

[light knot]

I was hoping to start moons tonight with what I currently have, is the thing 😅

[wheat spear]

you have a whip right

[oak geode]

you can without piety

[light knot]

Yeah

[oak geode]

these are just improvements you can make

[wet lodge]

you can its just that piety will speed up your rates alot. If you wanna throw yourself at it you can do it and hope to get a drop in like 20 chests or sooner to then buy the prayer

for piety

[light knot]

Yeah. I'll probably do that 🙂

[wheat spear]

can buy belles folly, glaacial temotli then and just go with chivalry

[burnt estuary]

Ye I'd just do it

You can make the money from moons

[weary spire]

you probably can, like i said, it's piss easy

[weary spire]

this too

[burnt estuary]

It's also nice content because you don't need supplies

[weary spire]

like if you have dragon scim you can do it lol

[burnt estuary]

You just make them in the dungeon

[wet lodge]

eventually getting 70 herblore also makes the potions alot better in moons too

[weary spire]

hardest part of moons is getting lost in tunnels

herblore is also profitable

[wet lodge]

herblore is dubious in its profits

[weary spire]

fake news i am a herblore defender

[wet lodge]

prayer pots are like the only thing that make money

[weary spire]

i literally just bought an anguish off herblore

[light knot]

Really? The wiki says herblore is either tiny profit and crap xp, or average xp at a loss

[weary spire]

mastering mixology

[wheat spear]

doing content with bad gear is better than doing no content at all, just try it out

[wet lodge]

gross, mm

but yeah you can sell the Mastering mixology rewards for profit

[weary spire]

you can also afk for a bit of xp or spam/degrime certain herbs, just double check because the market fluxuates greatly

[wet lodge]

personally i like doing prayer pots while watching youtube, you still make slight profit and its higher xp/hr

[weary spire]

yeah that's what i'd do

[wet lodge]

only problem is you need like 40-50 mil to just buy all the mats

[weary spire]

an hour of mixology and youtube before bed

[burnt estuary]

Cleaning herbs is actually really good xp/hr if you want RSI

[light knot]

Oh I'd only ever auto clean

Fuuuuuck that noise

[burnt estuary]

Understandable

[weary spire]

yeah that's why it's ez afk

i'd auto while doing other things

alright enough procrastination, gonna put on my boss music and attempt toa once again, wish me luck (i shall need it)

[onyx tangle]

good luck, zlzl

[oak geode]

lmk if you want me to take you through a clear

[light knot]

Tonight, herb run, birdhouse run, 8 barrows runs since I have 8 teletabs and a full ring of dueling and that makes me happy

Then I have time, start moons of peril

[signal pendant]

guys how can i fix that my client size not get smaller when opening plugin side on runelite?

[weary spire]

perhaps afterward, i have put in enough effort now and come close too many times that i am bitterly dedicated to getting my first kc on 150

[signal pendant]

anyone using linux here with runelite?

[onyx tangle]

@wide prairie might be able to help

[signal pendant]

thanks!

[honest glade]

yo

[signal pendant]

question, how can i fix that my client size not get smaller when opening plugin side on runelite?

[wide prairie]

hello sir this is tech support what are the question

[honest glade]

I personally set my Runelite config to make the sidebar not change my window size

otherwise it breaks and makes the window die sometimes due to scaling

[signal pendant]

on windows i had no issue but on linux it gets smaller

[wide prairie]

that sounds hella weird ive never had that issue

[signal pendant]

is it because osrs is not offical supported on linux

[wide prairie]

is opening the sidebar causing your window to hit the edge of your screen?

and how are you playing on linux

[signal pendant]

no it gets smaller

[wide prairie]

ok yes but thats not actually as descriptive as you might think

[honest glade]

can you provide an example of what you mean btw

[honest glade]

i've had this issue for a while

[honest glade]

due to resizing the window

[signal pendant]

i want that side just expand on the first image

if you understand what i mean xd

[honest glade]

settings, runelite plugin, turn on resize type "Keep game size"

see what happens

[signal pendant]

i tried that and also aspect ratio on on stretched mode settings

[wide prairie]

that should be the fix

[honest glade]

what's the method you're using for OSRS on linux?

[wide prairie]

do you happen to have "lock window size" on also?

those 2 options should be all you need, it works on linux basically natively

[honest glade]

true that resizable option seems on

[signal pendant]

what u mean by method

[honest glade]

with the window scale option in the corner

[wide prairie]

flatpak, wine, etc

[signal pendant]

no idea i use jagex launcher

[wide prairie]

yeah but how

you cant just download the launcher it doesnt work

[honest glade]

yea there's a source you got it from

or setup you did

since it's not true native

[signal pendant]

oh from the osrs offical page

let me look

[wide prairie]

theres no way you did

[surreal hollow]

osrs is not officially supported on linux. the jagex launcher doesn't support it. runelite supports it, but you basically have to use another third party app to make the game work with jagex's launcher

[wide prairie]

because that doesnt work on linux anymore

[honest glade]

I know, I'm trying to determine which method they used

[signal pendant]

flatpak

[honest glade]

I'm running it on arch myself

[wide prairie]

you can run the official jagex launcher in a container by using a flatpak or configuring it yourself in wine, not native but it does work, you dont need to use a third party app per se

third party app example being Bolt launcher

[honest glade]

which is pretty popular

[wide prairie]

🐐

[signal pendant]

it is not against the rules right 😮 ?

[wide prairie]

its completely fine

[honest glade]

it's not against the rules, it's just that jagex can't officially provide support

[wide prairie]

it still connects through all the proper channels theres nothing nefarious

[honest glade]

ye

[signal pendant]

ah okay 🙂

im using linux first time

[surreal hollow]

jagex launcher doesn't work in 64 bit so I use wine for a 32 bit setting, then I setup a symbolic link to launch 64-bit runelite outside of wine

I don't use the third party tool

[signal pendant]

weird that jagex not offical support jagex launcher on linux

[honest glade]

the way they've gone about it is the strange part

[signal pendant]

i tought alot of it guys plays osrs no ?

[honest glade]

not saying no and even providing links to third party methods

but not "officially" supporting it

[wide prairie]

probably just out of scope for them, maintaining 2 versions is not ideal business wise unfortunately

[honest glade]

it's definitely strange to me

[signal pendant]

they can remove offical client from the launcher and only runelite

[wide prairie]

has nothing to do with it

[signal pendant]

runelite supports it

[wide prairie]

its the launcher itself

[surreal hollow]

it's annoying that jagex launcher doesn't work in 64-bit wine for whatever reason, it just refuses to work. it would be so easy to just use runelite via wine if jagex's launcher wasn't special

[signal pendant]

first time using linux and so far im liking it

[wide prairie]

as an operating system its just better than windows honestly

[signal pendant]

had to google alot of things

[wide prairie]

most "issues" people have are from the apps/games/etc and not linux itself

[honest glade]

there's a lot of overall positives to it, though barrier to entry is higher than most people like ( having to learn a new operating system)

[signal pendant]

reason i use is because my laptop is old and does not support w11

[wide prairie]

yeah linux excels at being lightweight

[honest glade]

though for a lot of linux things documentation is EVERYWHERE

[signal pendant]

using zorin os and it feels like windows

[wide prairie]

yeah i saw that...

not my cup of tea but if it gets more people on linux so be it

glad youre enjoying it

[signal pendant]

what are you using?

[wide prairie]

I use EndeavourOS

its arch

[signal pendant]

what is the difference

[wide prairie]

but i dont use KDE environment

i prefer xfce

[wide prairie]

package managers, repositories, update frequency, etc

[honest glade]

the big and short is Zorin is based on ubuntu which is debian, endeavour is arch which is not debian

[surreal hollow]

im using cachyos, another arch based os, it seems ok. a lot to get used to but after the initial setup I haven't had any issues so far. I've just been using it for a month or so

[signal pendant]

ah okay

the reason i use zorin is because of flatpaks? makes easy to install things

dont need to type sudo or something

[wide prairie]

i like flatpaks too, but every linux distro can use them

[honest glade]

cachy used to have an issue with limine and having a 2GB EFI

i think they fixed it a good few months ago though

[wide prairie]

i had issues with cachy being buggy which is kinda sad cause it seemed super optimized

[signal pendant]

but i guess you guys working with linux

[wide prairie]

i also tried it with that new DE though, so it could have stemmed from that

[honest glade]

definitely not the smoothest sailing here but objectively way better than windows bugs

[wide prairie]

cosmic i think its called

[signal pendant]

i use this as daily driver xd osrs and youtube is what i need

[honest glade]

fair

[surreal hollow]

cachy was a lot of troubleshooting to get things to work properly for me, the setup to get the games I wanted to work working was a headache

[honest glade]

I just had to fix an issue where cachy decided to set my 9070XT to "Highest clocks" in LACT

[wide prairie]

linux is great for really any application that doesnt require windows exclusively or nonsense like secureboot and TPM

[honest glade]

so I was getting hard powerlimited

[surreal hollow]

but it came down to there being a new user guide and a bunch of extra drivers to download for cachyos I hadn't installed

[noble monolith]

Is there any way to focus certain points in Mastering Mixology?

[signal pendant]

thanks for answering my questions linux brothers

[honest glade]

Master Mixology Strategy or strategies plugin

[surreal hollow]

after that it was pretty easy to get things working, just lots of fiddling around with wine settings to make games work

[wide prairie]

any time

[honest glade]

same icon as the base mixology plugin

allows you to focus certain setups and points

[wide prairie]

im lazy and just add to steam with GE-proton ngl

that fixes most issues

[wide prairie]

the thing with mixology is that youre not going to get even points until like 81 herblore because you want mixalots

[long sparrow]

Any pvm min maxers know if it’s faster to green log moons if I skip one of the bosses if I have all the drops from said boss?

[wide prairie]

you cant really focus a certain thing without sacrificing too much xp/points

[noble monolith]

Ok wow didnt know that existed. Can you explain if I should have both plugins running or just the 1?

[honest glade]

both

[noble monolith]

I just dont need any more green point sbut stil lhave like 3k to go of red

[honest glade]

the strategy one just tells you which ones to avoid if you wanna optimize a certain way

[wide prairie]

the drop rates go down but the kill times go up, they should theoretically sort of even out.

if it helps, I went 480 something to green log and i dropped every moon i finished immediately

[surreal hollow]

you launch oldschool runescape from the steam store instead of jagex launcher?

[honest glade]

reduce double aga/Full order is lye 4+ would be what you use

[wide prairie]

no i use the flatpak for that

i just meant in general for most games

if that doesnt work i break out lutris or heroic

[noble monolith]

Ah thank you

[long sparrow]

Currently at 300 just missing blood and blue tassels

[honest glade]

I dropped lutris after it was shown to be a vibecoded mess ngl

[wide prairie]

i was the same but eclipse and blue LOL

if you dont like killing all 3 you can drop one, although i will say it is technically better to continue doing all 3 for atlatl darts and other skilling items

its just free xp if youre ironman*

[honest glade]

heroic does pretty much everything I need that lutris did though

[weary spire]

literally missed every spec on BaBa then both solves on Zebek, maybe god doesnt want me to pass ToA

[surreal hollow]

yeah, steam's linux support in general has been great. proton is crazy. I had to mess around with wine settings to get a few other games I routinely play outside of steam to work tho

[wheat spear]

on low invos specs are not rly needed anyway

[wide prairie]

i have lutris for like one game simply because it works and dont want to fuck with it, but i use heroic for 99% of outside of steam applications now

[wide prairie]

outside of steam yeah it can be kinda messy depending on game and what you want on your system etc

[honest glade]

I think my biggest hurdle on linux was learning how to properly use protontricks to install things into directories

though it's honestly pretty simple, I just didn't understand it for a good minute

[weary spire]

still agitated that missing two zebek solves just flushed 100k gp and 30 minutes down the drain

[wide prairie]

mine is always trying to find software control alternatives for my hardware and peripherals

[wheat spear]

it took you 30 minutes to get to zebak?

[wide prairie]

i went kinda crazy on the corsair product line but they dont have a linux application

[weary spire]

roughly

21 to zebek

plus 2 fails

on the second solve

[honest glade]

libratbag + input remapper has got me mostly covered for my hardware

non-specialty hardware

[junior plume]

is there a plugin that shows a more accurate current price on the GE?

[unreal ermine]

Quick question about the launcher, is there a particular reason why you can't log in while connected to an EC2 network?

[deep pagoda]

Yes but also if they’re not speeding it’s fine

[honest glade]

not sure, but generally upping your price by 5% and sending it (paying above the price listed visually) will usually buy it

more up to date resources include things like https://prices.runescape.wiki/osrs/item/882

[junior plume]

yeah, when i use this one it always instabuys

[deep pagoda]

Should always +5% and -5% to save time unless it’s items above 100m

[honest glade]

p much

[rigid bronze]

not plugin but u can check ge tracker

[junior plume]

[deep pagoda]

For selling, I have it at -30% currently

[honest glade]

I find the runescape wiki prices (not the prices on the wiki page, the other official ge website) to be pretty good

and about as accurate as I'd need to be for Ge tracker

I used it to flip a bunch of things in DMM like breaking down bracelets of ethereum

it was kinda funny how many weird money making metas around the GE existed in the last DMM

[surreal hollow]

is there a way to get a farming cape in leagues?

[honest glade]

Do not think so

[wide prairie]

you cant access zeah?

[rigid bronze]

guildmaster jane?

from zeah

farming guild

[wide prairie]

im pretty sure she sells it no?

[honest glade]

can you?

neat

[surreal hollow]

its normally in draynor thats why im asking

i dont have zeah unlocked

[honest glade]

forgot they shuffled stuff around

[rigid bronze]

[[farming cape]]

[half slate]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Farming_cape

[rigid bronze]

nope

guildmaster jane doesnt sell it

[honest glade]

it was martin yea

[rigid bronze]

rip

[wide prairie]

wow rip

[honest glade]

yea i was thinking "kourend hasn't been in the game since the farming cape, so it can't be kourend"

then remembered draynor

[obsidian pasture]

Max all your skills and get a max cape

Leagues tutor sells max capes

[honest glade]

so true

[oak geode]

practice them by just going into zebak on 0 raid level

that's what toa's good for

can just enter and practice any of the 4 bosses with any invocation

[merry vortex]

alternatively just do the 3 death invocation and do zebak first.

you're gonna die at zebak while you master it

just accept it and play around it without losing any time

[crystal zenith]

Hey, would yall say I go for fire cape next?

[weary spire]

it's ok i perfected him this time, got ez solves

taking a bit of a break before wardens

[weary spire]

maybe a whip first?

[wet lodge]

what is your ranged/magic levels?

[crystal zenith]

yeah i got one just not using it cause of the cost

[rigid bronze]

yea

[crystal zenith]

youre always here when i ask question lol u the goat

ty

[wet lodge]

should be do-able with 70 ranged + hunter sunlight

[grizzled briar]

75 range is better for Blowpipe

[crystal zenith]

mmm u think i should train that

[rigid bronze]

what prawn said

hes right

[dense nova]

Ranged with Hunter is more than enough.

[crystal zenith]

ok thx guys

[wet lodge]

blowpipe is not neccesary but will make it easier if you are nervous

[dense nova]

I took like 12 Prayer pots and the rest was food. Nothing special or crazy

[honest glade]

they cannot use it

it has a hunter req

[crystal zenith]

i am lol

[wet lodge]

oh lol im blind

[crystal zenith]

so ill do taht fs

oh i need hunter

[wet lodge]

yeah go level hunter if you don't wanna get blowpipe at 75 ranged

[honest glade]

hunters sunlight crossbow is the one with a hunter req of 50

blowpipe doesn't have that

it's stronger but more expensive

[dense nova]

50 Hunter is nothing of a grind though. Blowpipe is... A whole ordeal

[wet lodge]

if poor level hunter, if rich level ranged and get blowpipe

[crystal zenith]

i mean im already 70 ranged

[honest glade]

mainscape

[wet lodge]

50 hunter will take like 2-3 hours probably

[honest glade]

presumably

[crystal zenith]

okok ty

[dense nova]

Oh, he's a main? My bad

[crystal zenith]

i got 17m

u think i go for the blowpipe?

its more than half lol

[honest glade]

blowpipes around 11-12m rn i'd guess?

[dense nova]

Get yourself in Scurrius with a bow. You'll be at 75 in the blink of an eye and then just buy a blowpipe... Easy life is easy

[honest glade]

if you can spare it, it's pretty strong overall, 75 range also makes fight caves easier

[crystal zenith]

yeah

[crystal zenith]

ok ty

[dense nova]

Or 50 Hunter and just buy all the sunlight bolts you need. I used about 800 on my attempt, so 2000 bolts would be more than enough and probably cheap... I don't know, I don't contribute to the econmical state of RS so...

[crystal zenith]

ok fair enough

[wet lodge]

either option is perfectly valid, both are good things to level

[rigid bronze]

it does cost alot but you use it for so long and never really sell it

[honest glade]

it's a mainstay of any acc

[rigid bronze]

i have max gear and i still make use of it

cause its just good

[crystal zenith]

ok sick

thx guys

[dense nova]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-i-love-you-so-much-gif-10862015092269957633

[wet lodge]

if you are looking to do moons next, the hunter xp has a bit more value for food and you don't used ranged

but if not, ranged is better

[crystal zenith]

its my first time playing so not sure where to go after

most people here played since like childhood lol but im new

[merry vortex]

yeah. fire cape is easy if you have rcb/msb/atlatl/blowpipe. pick one, preferably not MSB.

Its free if you have brews+restores or ancients

[rigid bronze]

some people play from childhood and havent reached mid game ever so it doesnt matter as long as you learn :D

[crystal zenith]

haha alright what do you consider mid game

[grizzled briar]

You might want to practice Jad.

[wet lodge]

fighter torso + fire cape is mid-game to me

whip + dragon defender

[rigid bronze]

you're not gonna believe me but a lot of late game players think quest cape or roughly quest cape is mid game

https://tenor.com/view/erm-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-15932415906993918120

so like at least majority of grandmaster quests

[crystal zenith]

they give me loot to train?

[crystal zenith]

whoah

thats far

[honest glade]

getting through to barrows gloves/dragon scim is considered the start of the real midgame for me

[merry vortex]

me at 1,100,000,000 xp and ~10,000 hours bossing: still no quest cape

[wet lodge]

for some quest cape is the endgame ;p

[crystal zenith]

i thought i was pretty much there with the barrows

[grizzled briar]

They give you practice gear. As it's a speedrun world, you can't take it to the main game.

[honest glade]

that's where your account start getting a bunch of progression into progression into progression

and that's the midgame roll

[rigid bronze]

from a technical standpoint of grinds getting a questcape would put u about 20% of the way there

[crystal zenith]

oh sick ill try that when i get the blowpipe

[honest glade]

functionally at that state in ur acc i mean

[rigid bronze]

but most people arent going to 100% so that being the midgame point seems right

[honest glade]

bit different since main and not iron but barrows gloves is a very solid point to shoot for

[wet lodge]

alternatively you can do end-game raiding without a quest cape

[golden dome]

I'm trying to grind some Warrior Guild tokens, but for some reason, even though I pick them up after each kill with the animated enemy, the NPC still says I have none to claim, and they don't go into my inventory. How do I check how many I have(or claim the ones I've got)?

[rigid bronze]

u can but generally as a indicator thats how it is
cause people who cant beat quest bosses probably wont be beating end game bosses either

usually

theres always going to be some outliers

[dense nova]

They should definitely be in your inventory.

[golden dome]

OOOH

...I thought those were coins

[wet lodge]

runescape is such a long grind that mid-game is like a couple hundred hours to thousand+ hours lol

[dense nova]

We all have those moments! Good luck on the defender grind!

[golden dome]

I've already got 400 of them, how many(roughly) do you think I'll need for grinding up to a Dragon Defender?

[crystal zenith]

yeah its crazy

[dense nova]

Depends if you get spooned or go dry. I'd recommend at least 3000 to start with if you don't want to go back. Otherwise, pick up a 1000 do the grind for a bit and come back later.

[crystal zenith]

damn magic 80 w

[rigid bronze]

yea im technically talking like a "erm ackshually" standpoint

like the game is more than just quest cape

its like the beginning tbf of ur actual grind considering quest cape is at best like base 70s

[golden dome]

Personally in my opinion, getting the Quest Cape is the end, and everything else is side-content or post-game content.

[wet lodge]

82 magic with 61 ranged, thats my kinda stats.

[rigid bronze]

i view it as "quest cape is story mode and now that story mode is done im maxing my stats and grinding for gear"

[wet lodge]

ranged truly is the boring magic

[golden dome]

I grinded it out hard so that I can unlock Magic Imbue

[crystal zenith]

do yall think back dhide will b enough for fire cape? or should I invest in elite void or dragonhide?

[wet lodge]

well you are close to Plank Make which is a decent afk/xp method too which is nice

[crystal zenith]

mmm makes sense

[junior plume]

isthere a plugin for sailing pathfinding?

[dense nova]

Anything beyond Black D'hide is a bonus but, is absolutely more than enough.

[crystal zenith]

ok ty ❤️

[rigid bronze]

that being said im not downplaying that its a huge time investment because it is

xD

this game is a marathon

remember that

[rigid bronze]

elitevoid would require western hard diary and plus void isnt that useful
blackdhide is enough but if u have spare cash to spend u can buy blessed dhide for prayer bonus (its black dhide with prayer)

[dense nova]

Not sure I can send links and don't want the bot to tell me off. So, I'll just tell you instead. If you google jad trainer, the first link is an itch.io where you can practice the prayer flicking for Jad without the consequences. (I recommend turning the sound down on your browser, additionally, use sound in-game it makes the magic attack obvious.)

I did fight cave in three attempts never having experienced it and one of those attempts my mouse double clicked causing me to die. 😂 Because I used the trainer to practice.

[rigid bronze]

alternatively u can choose dragon slayer 2 on the speed run worlds, hand in the free firecape that comes in the speed run world and u can go do jad challenges from the jad challenge guy

its also something people do

[dense nova]

Yeah, I gave that a go but, the run back is a bit naff and the model is different so I found it jarring but, it's definitely an option and one I'd recommend trying at least once.

[rigid bronze]

model is the inferno jad

so its technically harder than regular jad

but if u can do that one then regular jad is cake walk

[dense nova]

Yeah, valid

[rigid bronze]

personally i find the jad trainer on the website to be a lil janky

lol

[wet lodge]

i just did it without the trainer, its not like jad is insane-o difficulty. took 2 tries. just take it slow and focus on your prayers, slowly tag healers and kill them while focusing on prayers

[rigid bronze]

i just tried it

it feels a bit off lol

[junior plume]

i'm in pandemonium, if i take this and tp to port sarim then sail from there to pandemonium will that still be 141 xp?

[oblique scaffold]

I agree it feels off but I found it practical despite that odd feel.

[wheat spear]

i think if we're going by quests havign like a couple gm quests completed is a good indicator of midgame progression

especially dt2

[oblique scaffold]

Yes, teleport to Sarim, pay for a boat recovery and then travel back to Pandemonium. But you cannot load your boat with other deliveries as those crates will be removed.

[wheat spear]

i usually try to go by what bosses the person is killing tho

if ur doing like yama ur def midgame

[wet lodge]

anyone who is killin vorkath or yama or duke is in the mid-game

[rigid bronze]

the xp and gold u get is distance based

[rigid bronze]

ye which is why i said most gm quests done is fine and not the crappy smaller quest works as well

[junior plume]

im just tryna get to 12 asap 🥀

[wet lodge]

did you already use up your tears of guthix?

[junior plume]

my what ?

[wet lodge]

tears of guthix, it gives you xp in your lowest skill once per week

[junior plume]

oh, no

where's that at

[wet lodge]

you gotta complete the Tears of Guthix quest

[junior plume]

it wont give me sailing xp anyway but that's good to know

[wet lodge]

then its available via games necklace teleport

[junior plume]

hm didnt do that one yet

[wet lodge]

I don't recall it being a very long quest

[junior plume]

im too low in firemaking

[plucky rock]

i never did ranged training, all my stuff was around 60 in combat but ranged 3, now im on 28 ranged, should i just get that bone thing and go up to 60 range on the gemstone crab with that? or is there smth better?

[rigid bronze]

its the tears of guthix quest u can sip from his tears for a free chunk of xp once a week

[golden pilot]

i would use knives or darts

[rigid bronze]

ur next option is cannoning ur slayer tasks

[wet lodge]

oh yeah cannon is so nice for the early ranged levels

if you got the GP

[plucky rock]

this is so expensive

[plucky rock]

i got like 70k or smth and i need to strt farming for a bond soon

[oblique scaffold]

Steel darts are really cheap, and fast attack. Those might be a decent option? But I would check quests first. Shadow of the Storm gives a lamp that is often used for ranged.

And it and its predecessors are not hard quests

[wet lodge]

mmm yes have you heard of the giant's foundry ;3 one hour easy 600k, spend it all on cannonballs ;p

[plucky rock]

better to use darts than the bone crossbow?