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gaunt minnow
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Do you think this is the place to post that?

restive siren
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<@&385422009930219520>

dire mango
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Damn, where will i sell my ghostly bags of gold now.

restive siren
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Crypto clowns i cba

wary dust
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Was just giving the armours for raids IV a thought. Perilous moons already introduced mid-level hybrid gear (eclipse range/melee, blue mage/melee). Instead of servicing one side of the combat triangle exclusively with a new set, could a higher level hybrid set be an option to explore?

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Such gear should not outshine dedicated gear to a single style, but perhaps a nifty set effect rewarding style switching could be nice

restive siren
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i feel like that would a bit wasted, higher level players who would be able to farm/buy this kind of gear are most likely very comfortable with switches anyways and wouldnt take the dps loss

wary dust
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Fair

austere mulch
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Give inq helm 6 str

Add lower def high str set from raid that is 4-5 str over Torva

You will likely still mix sets across content for def/accuracy based on content

obsidian venture
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Def not a hybrid armor from raids 4. Rather them adjust stuff via the rebalance and then comeback with what could be new bis

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Some of the stuff they mentioned can only be done if they adjust prior content

vivid ruin
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Id rather they not let us use more than 1 mega at once

bronze kernel
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I would say just accept some level of power creep will be inevitable and let some content just be laid to rest.

wary dust
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Just read through your valid points. If going down the path of augmenting elemental magic, these problems need to be addressed. They could solve 1 by giving the magic set the ability to cast spells based on your base magic level, and not the drained value (just spewing ideas here, no idea if this would be too OP in practice). 3 could be tackled interestingly imo by the magic set giving elemental spells similar side effects like ancient magics have (fire inflicts continuous burn damage, earth ignores a certain % of defence, water slows target movement down, air can blast opponents back a tile once every X ticks as indicative suggestions)

bronze kernel
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This whole upgrade/sidegrades thing only has a limited shelf life.

vivid ruin
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Eventually we'll need to have stats pushed to 120.... 👀

wary dust
austere mulch
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120 barely does anything for melee 😭

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But a win is a win

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Bandos pots when

vivid ruin
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Overloads wen

restive sapphire
warm knoll
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overloads being made from vial of blood + lily of sands + raids 4 reward would be cool

vivid ruin
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I think slayer needs to be changed completely tbh

warm knoll
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using the other raid rewards to introduce a broken pot

vivid ruin
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"Slaughter x amount of x monster" super lame. Should be a dungeon with boss at the end

wary dust
vivid ruin
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Yeah but it isnt. The reward is xp and a drop from boss

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Its more like.... elden ring ;p

oblique mesa
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Sounds more like bad skyrim

wary dust
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"Must have been the wind"

bronze kernel
vivid ruin
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No because slay helm

obsidian venture
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That would be so ass lmao

vivid ruin
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Araxyte cave extended to a 5 min run, cant fight araxxor until you kill everything in cave. Can then duo slay tasks instead of the slop we have now

obsidian venture
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Cox already annoying enough with shamans/skeletons

wary dust
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In that case you'd have to stockpile so many slayer points just to roll the right raid before starting out

vivid ruin
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Theres no reason to duo now

bronze kernel
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Or just let Slayer live like it is

vivid ruin
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Its shit but yeah :p

bronze kernel
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Where you super curate the list

vivid ruin
bronze kernel
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Using blocks on the main and a deliberately under leveled character to filter it more

wary dust
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This starts sounding like early day Nightmare zone shenanigans lol

vivid ruin
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I feel like thats another way of saying slayer sucks

minor whale
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Duo slayer is actually extraordinarily good

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Slayer is fine and asking for it to just be remade into Dungeoneering is silly

tough nacelle
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I think the best mega rare idea would be something that buffs elemental magic significantly, however we’d need to see where shadow lands post re work

vivid ruin
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Calling what i said dungeoneering is a big stretch

tough nacelle
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Like significantly more than harm

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Could make it 6 tick like twin flame but instead of buffing elemental weakness, it adds one

rapid badger
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i think the mega rare should be a twinflame but better

tough nacelle
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Could be cool

wary dust
rapid badger
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and add a new mage offhand that combines all tomes for unlimited elemental runes, and magic dmg %

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the tome offhand would make harm orb useful over shadow places

tough nacelle
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Or grossly OP

rapid badger
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harm is grossly underpowered now

tough nacelle
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Life stealing is bad, it trivializes content

rapid badger
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so something needs a change

tough nacelle
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Perhaps an item that applies a burn

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Making it really potent on longer encounters

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A burning mega rare, really weak vs low hp bosses but incredibly vs big health pools

oblique mesa
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With the push for more stuff that supplments skilling drops / improves rates rather than just dropping supplies im keen to see if jagex explores that more with raids 4 rewards

obsidian venture
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Only other option mage wise is consuming ancestral, which lets older content still be valuable

rapid badger
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megarares arent clothing, megarares are weapons

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imo

obsidian venture
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Actually could upgrade occult technically as it’s not a zenyte

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Meant for armor sets not megas

rapid badger
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fair then

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i would be let down if megarare isnt weapon

obsidian venture
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I’d want a 3t melee tbh

tough nacelle
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I’m curious what people think of a burn mega

restive sapphire
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i want a fast megarare

tough nacelle
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Fast burning mega rare? Or just fast wep with more dps but harder to use

vivid ruin
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Unless the "megarare" is an item that boosts underwhelming weapons, it should be a weapon for sure

obsidian venture
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Burn is pretty meh atm

restive sapphire
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fast wep megarare

minor whale
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I'm sad Jagex thinks fast is underwhelming

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It is so easy to tune faster weapons

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If you fuck up you lose way more dps

restive sapphire
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if underwhelmiing y nerf blowpipe

tough nacelle
minor whale
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Miss a tick on a 5t weapon gz 20% damage skipped
Miss a tick on a 2t weapon gg 50% damage skipped

tough nacelle
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They’re more skill expressive for sure

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I think fast weapons are fun

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Genuinely I wish we had more reworks prior to looking at these rewards because shadow changes will make or break what we think these rewards should be imo

sturdy zephyr
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Faster weapons dont allow for more technical movement. Blowpipe is very boring to maneuver with since you have to click to attack every 2nd tick.

Its ony real movement mechanic is vorkath

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4 and 5 tick weapons allow for many more movement opportunities and thats where the fun comes from. Not from just hitting a boss quickly

restive sapphire
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the tech from 5t weapons is cycling with a non 5t boss

fickle yarrow
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yesterday i made a case for a ramping attack speed weapon. given this is guthix themed to add more lore thematics, the balance elemental at the end of the quest while guthix sleeps also had a ramping attack speed mechanic giving credence for guthixes creations/weapon implementation.

restive sapphire
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but with a 2t weapon it's not about planning ahead it becomes rhythmic
not that it's better at doom but it's harder to bp doom than tbow
and ofc it's harder to bp woke levi than tbow but it's more dmg

sturdy zephyr
fickle yarrow
restive sapphire
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with pogtank yeah
but it's not "more movement opportunities than 2t"

sturdy zephyr
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But it does allow more movement opportunities. You get 1 sigular movement tick with a 2t weapon if you want to stay on cycle and the attack drags you in every time

obsidian venture
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Movement with fast weapons is more skillful lmao

tough nacelle
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its not more, its different

obsidian venture
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Need to upkeep dps

tough nacelle
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you have to be on the ball

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less ability to dodge

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but can dodge differently

restive sapphire
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you're not getting dragged when you 2t woke levi/doom/zuk healer or adds
but you do have to weave an attack every movement

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like i said 2t is more rhythmic than a 4/5t weapon

sturdy zephyr
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Im talking about a melee weapon since they seem to want to go melee

obsidian venture
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3t melee would be nice

restive sapphire
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then sure
a 3t would probably more skillful if it's melee

sturdy zephyr
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Bp was basically a mega already

obsidian venture
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Could even be dual wielding 👀

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Actually reminds me of a post

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Someone suggested guthix gauntlets here

sturdy zephyr
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I think the gauntlet idea is really neat but theyd need to be huge to stand out.

Noone wants a weapon as small as ralos as a mega lol. Or something that looks like green barrows gloves

restive sapphire
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but to its logical conclusion
who doesn't want a 99t gigaheavy weapon that one shots everything

sturdy zephyr
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Just give it FF7 omnislash as a spec and call it a day

merry verge
flint schooner
rapid badger
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new megarare could be similar to twinflame,
a bis magic staff that autocasts elemental weakness,
hits around 75 in max, slightly over shadow outside toa,
the staff would have 4 special attacks, 1 for each element
a tidal wave for water, a dragon breathing fire for fire,
a yama rock dropping on enemey for earth, and a tornado for air.

a mage off hand should also be added combining all tomes,
the new shield would have elemental dmg buff + dmg%
and when equipped give unlimited elemental runes
(air earth water fire)
to make it work tome of fire/water/earth are needed

the addition of the tome/shield reward also buffs
harmonised staff making it more useful again

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i feel like this could work really well with them wanting to rework shadow also

vivid ruin
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I do think nightmare staff could use some love

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Make it.... a charged staff ancestralhmm 👀

rapid badger
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ooo that could be something, ur cooking

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lmao i think if they did the tome shield idea too, they'd have to reduce effects of it with the new staff. similar to shadow and confliction gauntlets

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i been thinking on it a bit though to what would be a fun item, and staff sounds best after the thought

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a crush megarare could be cool but not as needed until new content comes out for it. maybe even the raid. a range megarare would have to replace tbow/zcb/blowpipe one of them to be useful at all, and mage has multiple spellbooks with standards being the least useful, and magic is used tons of places.

ashen yarrow
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raids 4 does need either crush mega rare or less rare drop that is crush. There is very big jump between full bloodmoon set/bludgeon and inquisitor mace currently. the 2 strongest crush weapons are not even meant to be crush weapons kekw

rapid badger
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agreed crush is underwhelming as a whole, but in terms of use. u use a staff everywhere and crush is for only a few things. in terms of earning an item to use, i would be less excited to earn a crush bis that is only useful at sarachnis, araxxor, nightmare, and whatever bosses come out next (maybe)

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incentive is a big part of it, everybody wants tbow/scythe cuz they r good all over, shadow is good everywhere, crush weapon would be sometimes used

ashen yarrow
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currently they have to make things require crush to be highest att stat to balance content for scythe/SRA

rapid badger
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yeah im just thinking of earning it. id do cox to earn tbow, tob to earn scythe, toa for a shadow, but if they offered bis crush weapon only id be turned off to even wanna grind it

ashen yarrow
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yes since currently you use scythe for crush too

rapid badger
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yeah it makes sense but should they just remove crush from scythe to add a mega rare?

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that sounds like such a troll lmao

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u guys already have one of these, we're taking it away go get a new one

ashen yarrow
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either they nerf scythe or add crush highest attack stat requirement to all future content, so nerf scythe or nerf scythe

rapid badger
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yeah imo just add new crush based content to make it worth it

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but if only things ud use it for is the raid u get it from, and nightmare..... thats a bust

wispy current
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Isnt crush only good with scythe because of its high max hit

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I thought it had bad crush accuracy

rapid badger
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idk i just think crush needs love, but crush bosses need love too yk

ashen yarrow
rapid badger
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if we get crush megarare itd feel like a placeholder 99% of the time

frail plover
ashen yarrow
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like they need to make enemy have 1000 slash/stab defense and 200+ crush defense to make inquisitor bis over the "non crush" weapons

frail plover
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All they’d have to do is have the next couple side bosses also be crush weak

rapid badger
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exactly its just underwhelming rn

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its like we need crush content to make it worth it, just the raid itself doesnt justify it for me personally

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cuz when u finish the raid u never use it again besides nightmare

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its a future megarare imo but current game playability itd be sad

ashen yarrow
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need crush content but cannot add crush content because there is not enough crush content

rapid badger
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yeah exactly

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make crush bosses besides nightmare lol

true talon
rapid badger
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or rework def to make crush more useful

frail plover
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One or the other has to come first, it’s a catch 22, and I’m gonna guess they end up doing the weapon first. Maybe they’ll go back and rebalance something else to make it weaker to crush

ashen yarrow
rapid badger
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yeah its all possible im just leaning more on useful items for all content, than useful item for just a couple, and yeah scythe makes it added thought

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my idea leans more into reworking shadow, and buffing phosani loot to be useful

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which they already said shadow rework, and harm orb is just sad

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that was my suggestion if u missed it

ashen yarrow
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there are 2 ways to buff phosani loot table, either inquisitor armor upgrade or buffing harm orb. both sounds fine for raids4 but i wouldnt do both at once. but i still think raids 4 needs crush weapon, be it mega rare or normal rare

rapid badger
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i dig the crush idea but it doesnt seem like the right timing for it idk

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they will figure it out for us tho, i just giving my 2cents

ashen yarrow
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the main thing that might be issue with normal rare crush weapon is that it might be "too good" for players with limited crush options

rapid badger
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maybe add the justi+inquis combination idea also, and give it additional set bonus to make inquis mace better with that set

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and scythe wouldnt get the same set bonus, they could make mace be the most % bonus of the armour set

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thus not buffing scythe but buffing inquisitor's mace alot

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making mace bis over scythe possibly

true talon
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Or stab

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Crush is not far behind other styles on many bosses it’s just that the crush dps is ass

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Considering scythe is the best crush wep

rapid badger
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his point was scythe gets passively buffed also then

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making scythe even better

true talon
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It doesn’t because scythe wouldn’t be better on a slash weak boss if you had to pick between crush and slash

rapid badger
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truuue

true talon
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Because scythe offensive slash is way stronger than its crush

rapid badger
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alot of numbers to add in here

true talon
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Crush scythe is only good because of inquis

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Scythe on slash with oathplate is better than scythe on crush in many places you’d crush instead

ashen yarrow
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yep in many crush bosses its scythe > soul reaper axe > inquisitor mace. nightmare you cannot keep up SRA stacks so inquisitor beats it there

true talon
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Personally if they make a crush mega then crush on scythe has to go

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One it makes no sense how do you crush with a scythe

ashen yarrow
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scythe has 75 stab attack but only 30 crush attack. it doesnt even have stab option kekw

rapid badger
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crush on scythe could get trashed i wouldnt be upset at all really

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its barely used anyway, just at nightmare

true talon
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Ya crush scythe is ass

true talon
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Arraxor

rapid badger
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true but nobody is like i need a scythe to go grind huey

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u wouldnt grind tob before huey usually

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its just sad to make megarare that allows u to do shitty content better

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huey is for noobs, araxxor is kinda nooby, sarachnis nooby,

true talon
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I mean if it’s a crush raid

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Then the mega will be bis at the raid

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And then bis at any other crush content

rapid badger
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yeah so get a inquis mace to grind the raid until u get megarare

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and by then u prolly have green logged boss

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so no more need to do raid

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so back to megarare for phosanis

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idk

ashen yarrow
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depending on stats crush mega rare could be usable at things like vardovis too. 65 slash defence and 85 crush defence

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true talon
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Yea they also talk about adding a crush armor upgrade

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So a crush mega with new inquis armor similar to oathplate would make it competitive at other places

rapid badger
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yeah im not saying its a bad idea in longterm game life. but for what we have now feels underwhelming

true talon
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There is a crush spec wep coming too

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This is looking like year of the crush

rapid badger
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if so thats cool just underwhelming from my current view on it, might change with more info on it

ashen yarrow
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the crush spec weapon is like weaker version of voidwaker

rapid badger
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ive always had high hopes for magic, it could be soooo cool with attack animations/special attacks but its so basic, personally magic has biggest room for improvement. who wouldnt wanna magic special attack thats a tidal wave/firebreathing dragon, earth yama ball, or a tornado animation

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badass magic staff > new whacky crush weapon

sharp cave
golden harness
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Ideas that could fill niche spots

  • a range based melee, think a ball or spike on a chain (meteor hammer, kusarigama, or manriki)
  • a thrown weapon, I think something like a boomerang that can hit multiple times and targets, and it would return to the player so ammo isn't an issue
ashen yarrow
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Mega rare salamander with crush, magic and ranged option. ancestralhmm

true talon
ashen yarrow
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mega rare salamander so they can add more salamander only CAs GuardAlerted

true talon
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Oh you died guesss you need to farm another mega rare salamander

wispy current
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Heres my idea: an item that gives overload boost. Maybe it uses spec or something and has a low hp requirement to keep it balanced

rapid badger
polar elm
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did it work

tough nacelle
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I’m getting flashbacks to magic options going from trident -> shadow

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And now it’ll be zammy hasta -> mega rare

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Since mace and SRA are borderline not worth attempting for any iron

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It’s just a weird progression line

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On a main it’s not AS bad but it’s still ass since mace will hit 400m once it’s useful

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For essentially a tent level item

true talon
tough nacelle
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So then again we hit the, hasta-> mega rare situation

ashen yarrow
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you already risk hp to do dps since eating loses ticks or dps unless you do those weird butterflies

tough nacelle
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And now will future CAs be balanced around this new crush mega rare? Probably

rapid badger
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yeah it just adds depth to combat if u have more mechanics to play around

true talon
tough nacelle
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So then we have to hastily release some sort of half baked item to offset the irons

ashen yarrow
# true talon Brews

brews still lose dps, well i guess armadyl brews do not lose dps on ranged

true talon
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Brew don’t lose dps of used properly

ashen yarrow
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drinking 1 brew dose into 1 super restore into boosting potion i guess can not waste ticks on 4-5 tick weapon

rapid badger
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reposting because i like my idea most

wispy current
true talon
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Kinda cool but elemental weakness is beans

toxic verge
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dayum

rapid badger
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i dont mind because all other suggestions seem to require nerfing scythe crush

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or changing defences of bosses

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so this would be the same outcome

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of changing defence

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defense

tough nacelle
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I do like elemental weakness mega (if they even do a mega) strictly because it has levers they can pull

rapid badger
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l0l

tough nacelle
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To make it less OP

true talon
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Scythe can lose crush and it won’t matter

tough nacelle
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But not because I find it super fun per say, mostly because i dislike everything else

true talon
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It has a stab attack bonus with no stab style

minor whale
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I don't think making a new staff that's just "hey what if we made a more annoying staff that shits on Harm and Shadow" is gonna go over well lol

rapid badger
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in reality, toa is easiest raid, shadow most common megarare, shadow is good with no gear, shadow in toa is always gonna be bis, and shadow is getting reworked they said

wispy current
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Mega crush is boring is that really what ppl want

true talon
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Ele weakness is a early game benefit not bosssing end game

rapid badger
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so my idea plays into shadow nerf as well,

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stats can be changed tho, ele weakness didnt even exist a year ago

ashen yarrow
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making scythe bis stab also runs into same issue as crush kekw

jagged marsh
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super SRA fang

rapid badger
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it was put in to make standard spellbook useful

jagged marsh
minor whale
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If you make a new mage weapon that hits harder than Shadow then the only niche left for Shadow after the new seekers/Amulet is gonna be places with very high defense but not very high mage level but also very high mage defense

gaunt minnow
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Another staff for elemental spells 🚫

minor whale
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And that's just not many places

jagged marsh
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take fang
take sra
Smoosh them together

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That's my megarare peepovoid

true talon
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Twisted scythe bow of tumenken

gaunt minnow
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Asin using sra to make the mega rare?

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Wut

jagged marsh
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Sacrifices HP to boost minimum hit

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Or something

minor whale
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We also just got Ayak
We don't need more mage at this point tbh

jagged marsh
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I just love minimum hit boosts so much

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They feel amazing

rapid badger
minor whale
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Progression for mage is better than it has been in a long time

rapid badger
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didnt mean to reply to you pyro

minor whale
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I kinda wish they'd put out an opinion poll

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For what kind of megarare we want

jagged marsh
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Minimum hit boost should make it interesting enough

minor whale
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Even if it's not a lock in, at least gather some thoughts formally

jagged marsh
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While scythe still works

gaunt minnow
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And judging by the chatters here everyone has a different idea

jagged marsh
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Yeah

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I hope they come to a good conclusion

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I really want it to just slap like a truck

rapid badger
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the staff i suggested could hit like 60-120 special attack

jagged marsh
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Like when tbow dropped and it was blasting 90s on dag prime

rapid badger
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then would it be good

jagged marsh
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That was awesome

jagged marsh
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Zcb is good as it is, but this is where they have a chance to nerf it

minor whale
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A special attack megarare would be kinda beans lmao

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That'd be neat

jagged marsh
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Not a megarare

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But as a reward in general

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Like an elder maul

half adder
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For an Armor set:
Guthixian armor has not been added, and the raid is in a guthix chamber.
Saradomin (Justiciar) being high defense melee, Zamorak (Inquisitor) being high offense, and void already existing as guthix themed, a reinforcement for void/elite armor best fits the raid.

For account upgrade items:
There was a widely agreed idea recently a while ago for a weapon tether to bind mainhand offhand items into one inventory slot.

This would be the perfect opportunity to introduce a guthix prayer book.
The mechanical theme is preservation, recovery, efficiency and balance.

  • No individual combat prayers, only universal tiered prayers. Combat prayers potency cut by roughly 25% on all tiers, but cost is cut by 75%.
  • Protect item halves death coffer fee
  • 2x HP Regen (Regen bracelet/HP cape combined, does not stack)
  • 3x
  • Redemption heals from 20% to 60%
  • Smite instead restores boosted stats to normal by 1/4 of the damage.

For a Mega Rare:
Stab-only 2h that works like https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Sigil_of_rampage, where cycling attack options builds/maintains dps.

gaunt minnow
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Yeah Im leaning towards a spec weapon being the mega tbh

jagged marsh
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My idea for a megarare is a Guthix Sword. 5 tick, hits harder than a nox hally or God sword. Each hit sacrifices HP and boosts your minimum hit. Then you can use those stacks as a powerful hit

gaunt minnow
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Just give us kopesh and call it a day

jagged marsh
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Basically an SRA but it boosts your minimum hit

jagged marsh
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Fuck it

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I wouldn't even be mad

gaunt minnow
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Disable the spec in PvP so no one cries

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Everyone’s happy

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Bruhhhhhh if we get an elemental staff as the mega rare you know how much carnage would happen

jagged marsh
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Having four different specs feels like it's leaning towards eoc

gaunt minnow
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No one wants the riots

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It’s a no chief

jagged marsh
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And elemental magic is pretty much early game stuff at this point

gaunt minnow
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Leave it in the early game

jagged marsh
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Ngl I don't wanna see any elemental magic rewards in the new raid. It'll either upset the fragile magic balance as it is, or it'll be too useless to be worth while

rapid badger
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they can make things work just depends on stats/effects items have

obsidian venture
jagged marsh
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It also feels like it's encroaching on voly staff

rapid badger
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if elemental is reworked and the item adds up to out dps shadow then good, and volly is a pvp item

jagged marsh
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No sra stacks

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No gimmicks

obsidian venture
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That’s just a scythe

jagged marsh
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Just Nox fangy

obsidian venture
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But without min hits

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Another 5t melee sounds zzz imo

rapid badger
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for everyones idea they are suggesting nerfing things and reworking stats, my idea is no different, gotta be open minded is all

jagged marsh
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Ok how about a melee weapon that can shoot blades

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Attack from like up to 4 tiles away

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Suuuuper long nox hally

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That would be cool

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Moonlight Greatsword

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@obsidian venture imagine hitting melee hand from mage side

half adder
rapid badger
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they asked what people wanted thats what i want

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everyone can have an opinion or idea, thats just what i got

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i get you tho

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people like simplicity, but i like to think whats best

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and opinions change so i might say its a shit idea compared to what they give us

half adder
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Right off the bat it sounds like your staff kind of steps on twinflame directly.

rapid badger
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twinflame is early game

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inquis mace steps on cudgel

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its just not an argument imo

gaunt minnow
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It’s directly power creeping nightmare rewards too

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Like there’s so many things wrong with it

rapid badger
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where do u use nightmare rewards currently

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oh yeah

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lol

gaunt minnow
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Not many places but that’s not a bad thing imo

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They have their places

rapid badger
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so it revitalizes old items, tome/harm/mace/inquis

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while allowing shadow to remain bis at toa and for early game

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and making a new bis for late game

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thats just my reasoning

half adder
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I'll be happy as long as we introduce the guthix smite to humble pures boosting stats to use gear and spells.

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rapid badger
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yeah my idea is as simple as it gets

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when u compare it to the people suggesting prayer books and shit

obsidian venture
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Down for a new set of prayers as well

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Or upgrade to piety (a tertiary scroll)

rapid badger
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new prayers is infinitely less simple than a new staff

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but could be a good idea

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🙂

obsidian venture
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For folks talking about crush megas, it doesn’t matter if they make one. Usually they’d adjust future content to help that out. Look at scythes value late 23 till colo came out

obsidian venture
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At least per the blog

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But slight chance they could be open to it.

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It was moreso akin to elemental robes over another weapon

rapid badger
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i never saw that part of blog but yeah i heard about robes, feel like swap robes for staff and it works perfect

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make the staff use wraith runes too giving them more use also

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im not quitting on the staff and tome ideas!!!!! lmao

gaunt minnow
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Imagine if they release a staff that is better than shadow

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And shadow is literally only good at Toa

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So you go to Toa to farm shadow to do Toa

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:pepega:

rapid badger
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shadow has accuracy bonus

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new staff wouldnt have same accuracy probs

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ud be sacrificing accuracy for high dmg and special attack

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i got shadow on 20kc toa, and used it for every bit of content in the entire game basically

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shadow only tob even

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shadow will not be useless

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it never will be it just doesnt have to be as good as a new staff

gaunt minnow
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And what impact does this have at places where shadow is almost already beating tbow and scythe

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Like verzik

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And all of cox

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And also all of tob actually

rapid badger
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shadow is getting reworked as per the blog

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so if shadow is made worse, then would u want a item to replace it?

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or would u be happy with a worse shadow and move on

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every idea comes with the possibility of reworking stats/elemntal weaknesses/attack options/

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my idea just revitalizes old items and makes place for new gameplay

limber creek
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confliction gauntlets show its not going to necessarily have to involve a huge nerf.

gaunt minnow
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I don’t think the shadow rebalancing will be nerfing shadow at any of these places though

rapid badger
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nobody knows do we

gaunt minnow
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It’ll just be rebalancing how the staff fundamentally works

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But it’ll still be amazing

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But we already know that they want to rebalance because there’s currently no room to add mage upgrades without shadow being turbo broken

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So that’s implying that they’re not looking to nerf it at the top end just lower the scaling

rapid badger
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and they only recently created the stat "elemental weakness"

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so that has room for change

limber creek
rapid badger
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but yeah id have most fun with a new sick staff, a crush weapon sounds boring

gaunt minnow
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Also shadow is the cheapest mega rare by far, you guys really think they’re going to nerf it and have it drop to like 300m

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Like wee had with scythe

obsidian venture
gaunt minnow
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I’m talking about. A hypothetical situation

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Where they add a staff better than shadow

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I know shadow is amazing

rapid badger
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what if

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price means nothing btw

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harm orb was 1.2bill, introducing shadow!

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oh harm is 200m now

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oop

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shadow is a cheese weapon that wont lose value in midgame

obsidian venture
rapid badger
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even if shadow goes from 800m to 200m its still good everywhere, just now we could have a better option with cooler animations and special attacks

obsidian venture
kind surge
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shadow going down to 200m would be terrible

obsidian venture
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I mean that paragraph alone defeats this entire convo

rapid badger
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well my whole goal bane is to convince them

obsidian venture
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👍

rapid badger
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bane dont be angry

kind surge
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also it doesn't matter if it's still "good in the midgame," it's meant to be a lategame weapon

rapid badger
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its a chat for opinions on new raid ideas

obsidian venture
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You’re not going to convince them with a random staff. I’m not angry

gaunt minnow
kind surge
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unironically would be so much worse than most midgame options

rapid badger
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gonna repaste my idea every hour

ashen yarrow
obsidian venture
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Also they need to fix harm and elemental stuff first before entertaining this. This will only be known post rebalance

kind surge
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jagex specifically says they also want to keep older content relevant for people to keep running, in the blog they were proud that cox was still very popular after all this time

obsidian venture
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You can post every hour but it’s just as bad as the spear suggestion with prayer bonus

kind surge
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bringing the mega for a raid down to 200m would just kill incentive for people to run it

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you'd just see irons most of the time

rapid badger
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thats fine thats just like, your opinion man

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and i will keep reposting it cuz alot of ppl like my idea 🙂

obsidian venture
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Except is tryna push for something that convolutes mage further without addressing clear issues with the weaponry and gear

ashen yarrow
kind surge
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actually yeah

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it's just masori and fang, then dip (and lb of course)

jagged marsh
kind surge
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why grind toa (the weakest of the 3 raids in terms of fun for a lot of people) when there's a shiny new raid with a better mage mega

rapid badger
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toa u can do 0 invocation and get a shadow by the way

jagged marsh
obsidian venture
gaunt minnow
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Has he given up yet

obsidian venture
obsidian venture
half adder
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Remember the raid is inside a temple of guthix. The rewards would not make sense if not guthix themed.

jagged marsh
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I think it's weird how every combat stat has something that can be changed at a bank (HP has Regen equipment, defense has tank armor, the three combat styles have their power armor, magic has spell books, but prayer doesnt have a switchable item)

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Everything but prayer

rapid badger
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the elemntal staff is basically a "staff of balance"

kind surge
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jagex already explained why they don't want a mage weapon mega in the blog already, too

rapid badger
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aligning with guthix btw

gaunt minnow
jagged marsh
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Being able to choose a bonus prayer to bring would be a good solution to alignments

jagged marsh
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You can prioritize different things for each combat stat depending on the encounter

half adder
kind surge
jagged marsh
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Some bosses deal chip damage, you need heals for that. Some don't.

obsidian venture
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Sra is specifically ass due to the health stack

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There’s a suggestion post here that wants to change it

ashen yarrow
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prayer bonus is also changable stat

obsidian venture
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Would look at that

jagged marsh
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Except in the catacombs

kind surge
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elemental robes would also synergise with existing weapons like twinflame and harm (the latter also has to be addressed tbh)

gaunt minnow
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Like it just seems more boring that virtus and virtus is from a quest bosses

kind surge
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true but idk what other armour they would add

gaunt minnow
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Oathplate should’ve been from raids 4 change my mind!

jagged marsh
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Stab armor wouldnt work

kind surge
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also true but it's too late

jagged marsh
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I think a cool armor set would be healing focused

gaunt minnow
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Healing yourself or your team?

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Or atp may as well just heal the boss

jagged marsh
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Spreads healing out as you heal

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At the cost of like 1 prayer point per set piece (up to 3)

rapid badger
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the megarare has to be something worthwhile is all, something that u WANT to grind for just the way you want a tbow/scythe/shadow

jagged marsh
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You eat a shark for 20 hp, heals your team for like 10 hp over 8 ticks

limber creek
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we have enough chip damage in the game. Adding chip healing is just more to keep up w/

rapid badger
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if the megarare isnt useful at more than 2-3 places it instantly becomes unpopular to me, thus my suggestion for a bis staff. it would be fun beyond just the raid

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btw i have all 3 megarares and used shadow to do alllll bossing in the game that is possible with shadow

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so me saying a new bis mage staff i understand shadow would fall off and im okay with that

obsidian venture
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Right but they don’t want a new mage weapon

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They are confident in that

kind surge
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that's specifically what jagex doesn't want though, and the vast majority of players are of the same mind

gaunt minnow
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I don’t think anyone else is okay with that, referencing the blog

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Where they specifically say they want to avoid that

rapid badger
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thats fine things can change

gaunt minnow
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Bro just wants a harm 2.0 so he doesn’t need to go nightmares 😏😂 I know your game

rapid badger
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but anyway i hope u come up with some good suggestions that i can agree with you on

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i have 2 harms

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ive got everything basically

ashen yarrow
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raids 3 bis mage weapon, raids 4 bis mage weapon, raids 5 bis mage weapon. only mage weapons scronglypirate

rapid badger
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thats a good suggestion tbh

kind surge
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ye there's design space for a melee mega or a ranged mega rn

rapid badger
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blogs change btw, and good ideas can be worth a change

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so just because they dont "want" it

kind surge
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shadow is just "yeah this mage weapon is good everywhere, you never really use any other mage weapon besides ayak for some spots because of conflictions passive"

rapid badger
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doesnt mean its a bad idea

obsidian venture
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If they change the blog to include a mage weapon just @ me

kind surge
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doesn't mean it's a good idea either

rapid badger
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well they mentioned reworking shadow so i have hope that makes space for my suggestion

tough nacelle
rapid badger
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yeah i havent read any good suggestions yet, if u dont like mine thats fair <

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❤️

tough nacelle
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As he could have hidden the weapons away

gaunt minnow
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Yeah I havnt read any suggestions that really excite me

tough nacelle
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Infinitely stacking burn weapon that applies a stronger burn per hit. Make it a fast weapon that loses burns rapidly if you don’t reapply after x period of time. Perhaps a melee weapon but also could be ranged

gaunt minnow
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All seem to niche or complex

tough nacelle
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If you don’t hit after x period the burn falls off quickly

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Idk

tough nacelle
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We have so many generic weapons filled out

gaunt minnow
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Yeah

tough nacelle
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It’s why I’m partly okay with no mega

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Because idk how they will even create non mega rewards

gaunt minnow
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That was gnomonkeys suggestions right

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Think he said the same thing in his video

tough nacelle
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Yeah I think it’s valid

gaunt minnow
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Yeah I could see it

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Would be wierd tho no mega from raids 4

tough nacelle
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They just definitely need to keep ttc high

gaunt minnow
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The other rewards would have to be super cool

tough nacelle
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If they offer no mega so the rewards keep value

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I don’t even have ideas beyond the burn item or elemental magic in general. I havnt seen anything I loved the idea of either

hard axle
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Ancy upgrade that eats up old ancy, simple as that

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Not only does it solve the lack of good general rewards, but it also fixes the ancy “problem” of full ancy taking a long time to unlock

tough nacelle
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I’d be okay if they increased chambers rates for CMs

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For upgrades to ancestral

hard axle
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Not necessary

tough nacelle
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But that’s two issues

hard axle
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It’s any ancy pieces broken down into components so if you get 2 ancy bodies, ur done

tough nacelle
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It’s what 2-300h for 3 pieces of ancestral?

hard axle
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No

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That’s 6 pieces iirc

tough nacelle
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I guess any3 would be lower

hard axle
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again, follow the armadyl masori example

kind surge
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that's not that bad tbh

hard axle
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If they have no plans to nerf shadow, just pull the bandaid off and buff ancy

kind surge
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personally don't think upgradescape is a bad thing, it's just an easy way to keep older items relevant

obsidian venture
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Ye

tough nacelle
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I like upgrade scape so long as the other item you get can be used on its own

obsidian venture
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As per elemental or crush, they need to adjust older content first

hard axle
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Yah, it’s either upgradescape or a 500 hour grind

hard axle
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No peg crystal bullshit

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Make it be like treads and masori

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treads once again proved the supremacy of the masori upgrade system

tough nacelle
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@hard axle have you had any ideas for a mega

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/ even want one

ashen yarrow
tough nacelle
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Pegs just suck

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Not the same issue we’d have here

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I might be crazy but I almost think we need some vertical progression now

limber creek
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👀

obsidian venture
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Due to no shadow or

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Personally wouldn’t grief dps for the chance to heal

limber creek
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nah i have shadow. its just nice to full heal on a whim

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no need for brews

austere mulch
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What scale tho? If it’s 1+4 or higher, melee hand won’t cripple and you can shadow + scythe for 0 damage and a stamina positive method

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No real reason to use sang other than just not wanting to do that method

limber creek
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I can do what i want 😛

obsidian venture
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For sure, but you’d be an outlier in regards to that statement above

austere mulch
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Yeah exactly, simply just doing it the way you want is plenty reason enough in any case. It’s an mmo and it’s your own experience at the end of the day

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Was js there is also no need for brews in scaled solos with shadow either

limber creek
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perhaps im not aware of the method. Ive taken very long breaks lol

austere mulch
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No need for stamina even, if you’re being efficient with the scy shadow method and walking all tiles + vile vigor but that’s not fun imo

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Yeah it came about with the stamina changes so it’s pretty recent

limber creek
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like ive been doing sang walk for years lol

austere mulch
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Wasn’t all that great before bc your run energy would get slammed

limber creek
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im unc status

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Cant wait to 1 hit someone with my new 60-120 dmg special attack from a single item.

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rag meta redefined in a moments notice

rapid badger
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spec doesnt work in pvp

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cry is free

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🙂

limber creek
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Pretty toxic to say

rapid badger
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this is a place for suggestions 🙂

hard axle
hard axle
tacit wharf
rapid badger
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the osrs blogpost tells me to post them here

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just open the blog post scroll way way wayyyyy down to the bottom where it says post in game update

tacit wharf
limber creek
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Read is free

rapid badger
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i was right tho

tacit wharf
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can just ignore him

sacred oracle
sacred oracle
rapid badger
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posted it in the suggestions tab now so i dont have to

unique badge
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Soo maybe askin question here will help. Why was runite ore mining increased to 92 mining??

ember token
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it wasnt

unique badge
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If i could attach a screenshot i would

ember token
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just because the skill guide says its 92 doesnt mean its actually 92

limber creek
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just a small bug they said they're fixing brother

minor whale
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Yeah, you can still mine it
Just wrong skill guide text

unique badge
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Gotchya thanks. Been working towards it and like 2 lvls away and seen that and was like “OH WTF” ya know

desert raptor
# rapid badger new megarare could be similar to twinflame, a bis magic staff that autocasts ele...

I think this is a pretty neat idea in a few ways. Brings relevance to some lower/mid-tier content and items bringing them forward into engame. Additionally affects the market on them as well since they would be consumed similar to the Treads. The weapon is also has pretty cool flair to it as well. would really add the feel of being an elemental mage with the visuals. the spells are all just recolours of the same blob.

Overall, really like the idea, good thinking @rapid badger You are a gentleman, scholar, and a handsome lad. 🤌

limber creek
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2 brand new accs joined within the past day. 🤔

restive siren
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nothing to see here guys

obsidian venture
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Too much glazing upon joining is truly astonishing

river elk
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Did we ever get the ancient wyvern shield fixed so we can buy it on the GE?

restive siren
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not yet afaik

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but they said this week

river elk
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Ffs. I have a fossil island task and really need that shield lol

desert raptor
meager flame
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I’m kinda curious what went so wrong with the shield

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I assume it’s because of the league because he can’t even do anything with those shields right?

limber creek
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Within a few minutes of it being posted here the hotfix went into effect.

meager flame
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Yeah but he doesn’t have anything to do with those shields afaik

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Why does he have a new dialogue related to them

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Like it’s not him randomly handing you the shield alone he has custom text when doing it

obsidian venture
glacial forge
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How do I pitch a raid unique reward to jagex?

restive siren
minor whale
frail plover
ember token
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yes, the visages are tradeable but theyre overpriced right now because its the only way to buy the shield

frail plover
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The weird part is he actually can’t combine a skeletal visage with a shield to make the ancient wyvern version so how the bug came to be is a bit of a mystery unless Jagex tells us what happened

chrome lantern
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Skeletal is DFW

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Wyvern visage is wyvern shield

frail plover
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Ahhh right forgot

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Well oziach can’t do skeletal or ancient visage in any case, only draconic

ember token
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part of Misthalin being inaccessible, the ancient wyvern shield is a misthalin item and Oziach is a misthalin npc

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latest trailer showed Yama having kidnapped a bunch of NPCs

frail plover
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I don’t remember if Oziach was in the trailer but leagues bug is a strong contender for sure

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I hope they tell us I’m very curious on it

ember token
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he wasnt in the trailer I think

polar shore
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where do i need to be if there is a problem at leviathan, my ping is good, im 2 tiles away so he cant melee hit me. he freezes mid shooting projectiles and i cant move or eat. after 3-4 seconds i can move again i get stacked with 4 hits. it happend on phone and laptop

chrome lantern
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That sounds like lag

restive siren
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ping can be good and either your internet/wifi/server connection can still lag out

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those arent exclusive

chrome lantern
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Specifically on your connection to the server

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The fact that it all processes at once means the server is still running fine

polar shore
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ahh okay, good to know tyty

sturdy wolf
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God damn its so wild seeing online people talk about the suggested preperation station without having ANY idea whatsoever at all what jagex even suggested or said about it 😂😂 these people argue and vote on it where they have quite literally all of the facts wrong on it or claim things jagex has not said about it….

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So many people seem to think the lumbridge kitchen one would just BE there straight away or that the station would be ONLY for leechfin sandwitches… ig the blame is partly also on jagex for not maybe somehow voicing their ideas even more clearly to the players…

tacit wharf
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????

ember token
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I mean would it not just be there

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I don't think they said you had to build it

tacit wharf
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oh the spots for the leachfin sandwhich

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took till the end to figure out what ya were talking about

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guessing they talked about this in the last Q/A

ember token
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Preparation stations would be available in familiar locations, including the Lumbridge Kitchen, Hosidius Kitchen, and the Cooks’ Guild. These stations can be stocked with bread using bank notes, then activated with a single click to set your character to preparing Leechfin Sandwiches - keeping the focus on planning and resource management rather than constant inventory juggling.

this is what they said in the first blog

tacit wharf
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hmm

ember token
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idk if they ever said you would be able to use it for other things, but it would make sense to be able to do so

winged mantle
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Does cooking some things take too many invent slots

ember token
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i haven't watched the qna either

winged mantle
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Cooking pies and other things is ass

tacit wharf
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guess making baked goods can be kinda ass

winged mantle
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Ye

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I would love a cooking machine - load all ingredients - it combines

ember token
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idk how itd really help with that if its just holding bread

tacit wharf
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having to make all that bread for this

ember token
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since cakes and pies dont use bread

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cant think of anything other than the steak sandwich that youd be able to use the station for

winged mantle
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Cooking prep in game could defo be automated

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I used to make pizzas, stews and pies

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They are not great to assemble

ember token
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yeah i just think its beyond the scope of what planning with the leechfin sandwich

winged mantle
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Yeah

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Should be something for the future

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If they're planning on adding complex combo recipes

languid ravine
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would be funny ppl using eachothers PoHs for kitchen

ember token
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yeah that would be a nice use for the poh kitchen, though I imagine they wouldnt want to take people out of the world

merry verge
#

Okay guys, I've been cooking locked in for almost 2 hours just editing on my TFA megarare suggestion, please do have a read and let me know what you think, I will continue to edit and evolve the ideas with feedback:
https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1479324340565835806

I genuinely think this has surpassed the point of being the best suggestion for TFA Megarare thus far, as I've thought of how it will fit alongside Scythe and other spec weapons and bosses etc.

fickle yarrow
merry verge
rapid badger
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yeah i never calc'd anything just thought off pure creativity, i know boss stats are able to be changed too to make things more usable, if its a crush wep my friend said it would be best if its a stab/slash/crush weapon, better than fang/blade of saeldor but worse than scythe for slash and stab, but better than scythe for crush. and that idea really made it sound muuuuch better to me for the reward, but if its strictly crush weapon it'll be underwhelming still

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@merry verge @fickle yarrow and also some bosses are very mid game bosses that once u finish u barely ever would go back to, so it could be good at them but endgame raid weapon to go kill mid game bosses. i guess hopefully more crush weak bosses come post raid if it is a crush megarare

vivid ruin
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And yeah no i didnt calc anything. Im a very average pc user with limited experience

ionic grotto
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One thing is for sure I think the new armour set from TFA is the easiest choice, it literally has to be Magic, there's no other logical choice. Ancestral has been BiS for 9 years, besides Virtus coming out for Ancients, Magic hasn't had any new robe powercreep in a very long time. Ranged just got Masori last raid, melee got Torva and Oathplate within the same span of time and Inq not that much earlier, so melee is for sure off the table. After the Shadow rework I see no issues with new BiS Mage robes.

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If you make them 4% Magic damage per piece, that will be 3% more than Ancestral overall, but 3% less than Virtus when factoring in its boosts to Ancients.

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Ancestral is 9% for the set, Virtus is 15% for Ancients, make this new set 12% total and ship it imo

vivid ruin
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I feel like range is the only style without a second max set

ionic grotto
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Also if you want to help Ancestral hold its value you can make the new set degrade and either require upkeep or make it degrade permanently and disintegrate to dust.

ionic grotto
vivid ruin
ionic grotto
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Something that boosts heavy ammo specifically.

vivid ruin
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Lol ^^

ionic grotto
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Yes ik I've suggested the same thing many times

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We already have Torva and Virtus but we're still missing Pernix.

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If they ever plan to finish the trinity, this is the perfect choice to do so.

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Pernix as a Zarosian Ranged set that buffs heavy ammo will help make weapons like the ZCB and Heavy ballista more viable. Also, I would like to see it have a passive effect that also buffs enchanted bolt procs, say 0.5% per piece, and 2.5% total if the whole set is being used.

limber creek
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Hand cannon megarare and pernix set armor

tacit wharf
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only once jagex gets their heads outta their asses and actually make weakness mean something

ionic grotto
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They can always make retroactive changes like that.

ionic grotto
limber creek
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Totally agreed

ionic grotto
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Torva came from Nex, Virtus came from DT2 which is also Zarosian content, we need Pernix to either come from a new hard mode version of Nex aka Angel of Death, or some other Zarosian-style content, maybe a post-quest boss from the Ritual of the Mahjarrat quest coming next year.

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Something Zaros-related cuz this raid isn't really that imo but they could probably work it into the lore and make it make sense if they want to.

limber creek
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Im tryna use khopesh some more while we at it 👀

ionic grotto
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I posted a concept/suggestion for AoD Nex awhile back, would be a good place to introduce Pernix + an Occult upgrade maybe. We need to give Nex the Phosani treatment.

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I definitely wanna see more Mage and Range sets, melee has way too many as it stands currently.

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At the top end melee has Torva as your overall max strength BiS, Justiciar as your max tank, Inquisitor's for max crush, and Oathplate for max slash, that's a little ridiculous imo lol

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Ranged has Masori and that's basically it. Sure Crystal exists but it's pretty dated and bad nowadays, you use it with Bowfa until you obtain a Tbow and then you never need it again.

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Magic has Ancestral which is older than Bandos or Armadyl were when Torva and Masori came out as its current BiS, and Virtus for barraging, that's it.

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Considering we got new melee and range BiS sets in 2022, but no new Mage BiS set since 2017, I think it's time.

vivid ruin
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Melee and mage also have more styles to attack weaknesses than range

ionic grotto
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There are options for good side grade sets for Mage and Ranged too. Heavy ammo Ranged set, elemental spell Mage set.

vivid ruin
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Mage heavy ammo great again

ionic grotto
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But Mage just straight up is overdue for new BiS so they should do that first lol

vivid ruin
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If they do it should boost the god spells or something

ionic grotto
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You use them to get your capes and then never again

tacit wharf
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you know what, they mentioned a lunar magic set, but lunar's has no combat spells (dmg)

ionic grotto
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No gimmicks, no niche sets, Magic is straight up overdue for new BiS.

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But obviously we need a Shadow rework to make that viable, but they did say that was coming so the door is open for new Mage BiS.

vivid ruin
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Yeah you know what my shadow does need a buff pls

limber creek
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wilderness gwd rework. Add bosses in there that drop variant gears.

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🤯

vivid ruin
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I have been saying that we need new gwd2 bosses

ionic grotto
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Raids 4 is pretty much GWD the raid.

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Guthix boss:

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Saradomin boss:

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Probably will be bosses representative of other Gods as well.

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As stated by Jagex, this will definitely be the case.

obsidian venture
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@merry verge while I appreciate in-depth posts, yours was but with a lot of maybes. Would add numbers to make some case points.
Either way, it’s interesting but not something I’m particularly keen on adding

merry verge
obsidian venture
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Compare it with inq mace and go from there

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Also making sra even more dead isn’t ideal considering it’s in a very poor spot atm. Either that or Jagex needs to tweak sra

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Replacing fang at nex is alright

inner pelican
ionic grotto
meager flame
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its basically just not the best and it also kills you which makes it questionable as second best when it should easily slot in there for a lot of bosses

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basically not enough reward for the risk is the design problem

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i think its a prime candidate for like a further upgrade item or something one day to make it less awful for the person using it or something

ionic grotto
meager flame
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its just a shame because i honestly really like the item it looks cool but lol

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its pretty hard sometimes to really justify dropping a rancour to try to use a blood fury or try to play perfectly for not that big of an upgrade over a saeldor a lot of the time

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it could be different if it were just somewhat better than it is to make it actually worth dealing with

hasty shard
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i wish you could just like inverse spec to get to full stacks immediately

vivid ruin
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Yeah the slow build to sra max potential with the stacks makes it sort of lack luster. It basically is a megarare.

analog crow
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It would be cool and clean if SRA + bowfa + eye was the clear 2nd bis set people could aim for before grinding out the megarares

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Heard someone describe current SRA as slayer slop and I can't unhear it

wary dust
# ionic grotto At the top end melee has Torva as your overall max strength BiS, Justiciar as yo...

Interesting. Perhaps ranged armour sets with a specific style in mind (light, arrows, heavy) just like how oathplate functions for slash weaponry could allow for niche ranged sets. Magic could work the same way if you were to get element-specific gear. But given how elemental magic does not compete in the highest regions I don't know how viable (for example) fire-spell boosting robes would be

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Something like this would also result in a lot of different armour sets to be fair

vivid ruin
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Im all for it

wary dust
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Then again, perhaps the fire-spell boosting robes in the above example could make fire spells more viable by adding a secondary effect upon cast as a set-effect from the robes themselves (like allow fire spells to apply a burn)

limber creek
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yes give me fire spell boosting robes. Standard spells just got a mad buff im hearing

minor whale
round lintel
queen lark
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hey does anyone know if when they update the mobile to have a character switcher. if you can turn it on and off or not.

patent ibex
queen lark
# patent ibex Unknown as of now, but why would you want to disable the feature?

my son is autistic and his account is under my launcher. he does not know what he is doing. I help him and we play together but i have to log his account in and if he had options to get on the other accounts he would say die on my HCIM or drop all my items on my Main. I have pins on these accounts but if i am attacking something or in a safe spot to logout and then my son who has no idea has access to these accounts now because of this update.

true talon
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Thats such a niche case that shouldnt be catered to..... you can properly teach him which accounts he does not go on or what not to do. and maybe dont let him play unsupervised?

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However i agree, maybe they could allow it to be toggle on/off for these niche cases.

queen lark
patent ibex
analog crow
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It's a perfectly reasonable usecase.
One way to implement it that should be easy for jagex is to allow a setting such that the game prompts you for your bank pin on login.

umbral summit
tacit wharf
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i agree, but the whole using yr bank pin to switch yr account, isnt a half bad idea either

uneven lodge
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Is there a thread to discuss the new raid rewards?

tacit wharf
merry verge
# round lintel Use Gearscape

Yeah I might play around with some numbers there and show some examples of where the current iteration of the suggestion would land at some bosses, good idea 🙂

austere mulch
# ionic grotto But Mage just straight up is overdue for new BiS so they should do that first lo...

Time alone isn’t the best indicator for when things should be upgraded tbh, shouldn’t even be a primary reason in most cases imo

Inferno is 8 years old and since then, we’ve had two untradeable range back slot upgrades in the assembler and quiver

Wouldn’t be upset with a mage gear upgrade to ancestral, but mage and range gear has seen tremendously more growth than melee in the last 5 years.

If there is to be an entire set instead of individual pieces, I’d rather it be a true BIS melee str set that actually is meaningfully above oath/inq (give inq helm 6 str) to where it is actually BIS in most cases rather than the inverse. This also completes the “sets” from raids being a BIS mage, range, and melee dps

In a perfect world, a Torva-adjacent set would’ve come from tob (with more str bonus, potentially less def) instead of nex and a justi-adjacent set would’ve come from nex instead of tob

potent shoal
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Anybody else a little bummed that archive is gonna be another predominantly melee raid by the sound of it. Was kinda hoping we would get a raid where range/mage were more used. Since tob is mainly melee based, cox does tribred well, and toa is a mix to but favors melee a bit more besides shadow.

restive siren
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Not really

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Toa isnt melee heavy at all and what they say is true, melee generally allows for more interesting and fun mechanics

potent shoal
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Which is fair. I think its party cause were going to an archive and using melee that has me bummed lol.

restive siren
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Im not associating archive with magic if you mean that, it just means library basically

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But subjective

potent shoal
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Yea. My thought was ok its gonna be a mage based one. Wouldn’t have been surprised since big library generally points in the mage direction.

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Ngl down the road they could do something cool like have a raid where you can and need to swap between all spell books. Like 4 bosses each requiring a different book to weaken/defeat

obsidian venture
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If it’s built into the raid to switch spellbooks then ok maybe? Otherwise kinda kank

obsidian venture
potent shoal
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Yeah would have to be built in. And true you do akkha is full tribrid baba/kephri is melee zebak is ranged and warden can also be tribrid depending on how you wanna tackle it

vivid ruin
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Ahkka hasnt been full tribrid for like a year

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You can but you dont have to anymore

limber creek
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they gutted that boy

neat sphinx
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Hey, sorry to ask here, but how do I add an image when creating a game suggestion thread in #1022203837265756231?

ember token
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if you dont have image perms, you havent talked enough in the discord

dark solstice
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is there a channel to report bugs(not mobile specific)

ember token
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you report bugs ingame

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right click the report button, click report game bug

azure narwhal
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When will the official client allow the use of W,A,S and D to rotate the camera and to press enter to start typing in chat? Small thing probably not cared about but it's something that would get me using official client over Runelite for sure

meager flame
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i think really unfortunately

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the guy that was heading up a lot of the client related stuff no longer works at jagex

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i suspect that might also be what happened to the api and so on that they were working on

nocturne solstice
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I imagine when they get the HD and official plugin hub out

meager flame
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well they told us the hub is on indefinite hold buried in a summit blog

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unless they've updated since then

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so idk i'd be a little worried about their client atm

nocturne solstice
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Wasnt it just delayed with HD being the priority instead of them being packaged together?

meager flame
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that's how they framed it but their project manager for it all quit in november and its been silence since

nocturne solstice
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Eh silence is common, they work on a lot of things in silence then make an announcement after like the mobile char switching thing.

meager flame
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i think they used similar language for zanaris too

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and things like prayers at points lol

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its code for we're probably not working on this but we dont want to just say never yet

nocturne solstice
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Zanarais was definitely more direct language and specifically saying indefinite hiatus and sunset haha

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Yeah this is what i found

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sullen quest
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Is anyone else having movement issues in their POH after using the wildy blueprints?

indigo tinsel
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I thought we fixed that with the update

languid ravine
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what if leechfin damages you overtime and then at the end does a big heal

languid ravine
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or once eaten it waits say 8 ticks and if during that time you took alot of damage you get healed the full amount
but if after eating it during this time you do not take any, or little damage, damage is dealt to you and you dont get healed at all

remote ruin
languid ravine
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leech = bleed/dmg effect ancestralhmm

solid trout
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Is this the best Up to Downthumb ratio with the largest vote size to date?
I can hardly remember if we ever even reached quadrouple digits on the 👍 counter

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spiral reef
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crush megarare and inq upgrade please!!!! @jagex !!@@@@@@@

eager stream
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ooh the leechfin sandwhich failed. I personally voted against it because I was afraid every future content would be balanced around it, and deal more chip damage to counter the increased healing. Wonder what the rest of the community thought of it

chrome lantern
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I voted no because it was dumb

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Why are they doing an opinion poll about leech fishing when it can just not exist

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Considering the sandwich failed

tacit wharf
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the fishing itself, not the sandwich

chrome lantern
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Yeah I know that

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But unless they plan to poll another skilling method or healing food idk what they would even do with it

tacit wharf
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probably a design direction on what it should give for doing it now

sacred oracle
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I liked the sandwich

timber drift
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thank god we didnt instantly powercreep the sailing fish

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there is justice in the world

chrome lantern
sacred oracle
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I thought it was interesting, and since people are resistant to just having food heal more, it was a nice way to find new design space

tacit wharf
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ahh

sacred oracle
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It gave rise to interesting play decisions instead of just "eat food"

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Alas

timber drift
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i dont mind the concept

chrome lantern
timber drift
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i mind the execution

chrome lantern
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It was just "eat food but have a 1% chance to get screwed"

timber drift
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and everything around it

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dont mind it if you want to to think about clicking food just dont nerf the skilling content you just released indirectly

chrome lantern
inner pelican
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leechfin creeping sailing fish, which i don't think i agree with

hasty shard
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'interesting play decisions'

attack with melee

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also that

inner pelican
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melee only, less burst healing

hasty shard
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we literally just got marlins

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and antelopes

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i think we're good on food for a while

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would rather get bandosian brews or an overheal karambwan

inner pelican
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oh right sailing is delay too

gaunt minnow
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why do we need an opinon poll on the soup? Just because it didnt pass it's not pvp?

chrome lantern
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Next is super saradomin brew that drains your stats to 0 and heals 50 per dose (jk)

frail plover
oblique mesa
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Rip mod Rice, dude seems passionate about his projects.

Don't think hes had one miss the mark yet like the sandwhich.

chrome lantern
inner pelican
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vampyrium feels one note as it is

chrome lantern
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We already have so many items, especially foods, that do the exact same thing

inner pelican
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blood, blood, and more blood

chrome lantern
obsidian venture
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Hb eating vampires. It’s time 🫡

chrome lantern
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Yama is ok but the rest I really dislike

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And the contracts mar Yama pretty egregiously

hasty shard
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remember how we were meant to get duo contracts or something

oblique mesa
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Oh I forgot about contracts, I did like moons, shale mining, and yama overall

hasty shard
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and an oathplate design opinion polll

chrome lantern
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Shale mining was overcooked and underdelivered on a flawed system of oathplate shards being tradeable in the first place

minor whale
gaunt minnow
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not oathplate coming from yama and some random elemntal set from raids 4

chrome lantern
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Moons is probably the worst PvM in the game

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Tormented Demonds are Demonic Gorillas but slower and put you to sleep

hasty shard
obsidian venture
chrome lantern
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Reading off the wiki page for him I don't think I like anything he worked on xd

obsidian venture
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It’s ok then

chrome lantern
obsidian venture
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That’s about as active

chrome lantern
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As what

hard axle
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Leechfin actually failed? The f?

obsidian venture
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As it gets

chrome lantern
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I already brought 7 ways to gorillas

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TDs are just gorillas but worse and slower

torpid delta
hard axle
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Surprising af

obsidian venture
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Moons is egregious

timber drift
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rice is a systems designer he didnt actually work on the content rather than the stuff like drop tables

obsidian venture
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Wayyyy too much running

chrome lantern
minor whale
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Also Yama is solid content even if there's aspects that could use work

hard axle
chrome lantern
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Ah yes the Summer Sweepup drop changes that brought us the completely useless Shark lure

torpid delta
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blue moon having a piss break is still the funniest thing

minor whale
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I don't think picking out 1 useless thing that was meant to reduce the amount of raw sharks dropped by bosses is really this scouring takedown of the drop reworks

chrome lantern
minor whale
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They were good, shark lures aren't useful for most people but they got rid of the "here's 3k sharks from doing some Vorkath" problem

elfin pulsar
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No leech sandwich 🥪 🪱

timber drift
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shark lures good for clogger moon keys

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or something

chrome lantern
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Especially the fact that ToA drop rate changes made Masori 20% rarer in 500s

fringe rivet
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The reddit posts I saw about the sandwich were full of so much misinformation, I swear

inner pelican
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i also feel like the 'chance to get screwed' angle is inaccurate and fallacious

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you always get 16 hp. if your acc is low give that consideration

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isn't that the nuance people were looking for

chrome lantern
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It doesn't actually change anything about how you use food or fight the enemy though, you just click the food and continue attacking the boss. It's not interesting it's just more annoying.

true talon
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Fs o the sandwich lol

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Any new information on the venator drop they is d arrow crafting?

drifting valley
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Seen a video with the idea of introducing a elemental robe set for raids 4 reward

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I think its a cool niche to have like virtus robes

restive siren
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thats what jagex pitched but yeah

drifting valley
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The fractured robes

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15% elemental dmg bonus

obsidian venture
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They need to fix harm first ngl

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And or adjust elemental stuff prior

drifting valley
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Fix harm by doing what to it

obsidian venture
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Elemental rebalance currently has use in early/mid. Harm is a late game purchase or item to get on an iron (completely skippable though)

drifting valley
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They just need to add more usecases in bosses where you may need elemental spellbook which would be better than thralls ofc

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Cant have thralls be the only bis thing needed for every boss..having said that it may be a cool idea to have a raid designed more around the elemental spell book rather than just have thralls be bis everytime in every raid

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Its nice to make a niche more viable to the point where it becomes important aswell

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But obv thats my take on it and im sure other people want thralls everywhere for everything..

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Would be sick aswell if they added a spellbook altar inbetween rooms where you can use multiple spellbooks in the raid

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Like some sort of guthix altar

obsidian venture
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I’m kinda tired of thralls. Cool dps increase but boring utility

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I do enjoy lunars ALOT more and that’s due to the functionality of it at the top end

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I’m glad that chambers still relies on standards but that’s it raid wise

thick beacon
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ye if u force ele spells ur gona lose out on all lunar tech

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or cape swap tech

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create*

brazen nymph
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Why is shadow better than tbow at regular chambers, would we be ok with tbow being better than scythe at regular tob?

meager flame
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Ya I personally feel like veng is way more fun than thralls

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But thralls are just way too good and way way way too universal

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They don’t really allow you to play other spellbooks unless you’re going to sweat like crazy with sbs

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It’s bad for the game

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Idk why they’ve been allowed to sit like this for years

obsidian venture
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Tbow is very useful in tob already so it’s fine

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Currently you can pick any of the megas as it’s similar time saved so it’s in a good place at cox either way

meager flame
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They also gave us double death charge which I don’t want to roast too badly because I think that one is fun

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But I’m not sure if they ever actually intend to see another spell book used again in a regular situation lol

obsidian venture
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Yeah double dc is nice

true talon
brazen nymph
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Maybe raise magic levels in regular chambers?

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seems like power creep ngl

meager flame
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i mean i dont really think its a problem

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its not like you get tbow or shadow or scythe

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you want all of them

brazen nymph
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Ya I was just saying rebuild wise why choose tbow at all? For ornament kits?

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it ain’t even bis at nex bro it really should be though imo

meager flame
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i dont think rebuilds matter like that the shadow didn't replace the tbow

minor whale
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It still has plenty of use cases and is mega that requires the least supporting gear to be good

brazen nymph
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wym shadow did replace tbow at multiple rebuild locations like Kree

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and Sara

meager flame
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im just saying if you're doing cox you dont choose shadow or tbow unless broke

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you take shadow and tbow

brazen nymph
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So megas should only benefit top 1% that have all of them?

meager flame
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lol

brazen nymph
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I just don’t think shadow should be this good at nex if they didn’t make confliction for one handed it would of passed zcb kinda power creep don’t u think

drifting valley
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Someone say nex?

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Just make a elemental robe set and free us from using thralls every raid

brazen nymph
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why not make a elemental mega magic weapon 1h

meager flame
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i dont honestly think the nex thing is too much of a problem either tbh

drifting valley
meager flame
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like right now you can do nex normally or chicken nex if you have enough people to do it with you

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they're both pretty reasonable

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seems solid

drifting valley
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We need to stop making items which are annoying to get/expensive niche

meager flame
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and tbf the harm orb does not need use cases

brazen nymph
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why not add Avernic ring combining all the rings like treads

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so we don’t need ring switches

meager flame
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they should correct their game design before encouraging people to chase harm orb

drifting valley
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We need to have use cases for harm orb, soul reaper axe, ralos of toe nail

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Ely

brazen nymph
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why not a mega ring bro or mega off hand

meager flame
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its not too hard to see why they dont make a bunch of content for pretty much that entire list

drifting valley
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What kinda take is that

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Lets not make any use cases

meager flame
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yes the drop rate on it is completely insane just like ely and it comes from content that doesn't have the replayability to support long term grinds like that

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the game is literally better because we're not all doing that content

drifting valley
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Are u an iron?

meager flame
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if they wanted to fix the bosses

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it could be different if they made the items also interesting

brazen nymph
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why not get rid of ring switches like boots

meager flame
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but many of those also have additional problems like for example the ely

drifting valley
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Dude wants to make annoying to grind for items worthless and deleted...what an insane person

meager flame
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if we took enough damage that we actually wanted to use an ely

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nobody would be happy about it

brazen nymph
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why don’t they make mega salamander where you combine all mega weapons

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🙂

drifting valley
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Ppl who complain about grinds are playing the wrong game

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They need to go play a diff game and fast

meager flame
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i think people that dont see the problem with a lot of those things probably don't actually play the game and do some of the grinds to understand why its not good

drifting valley
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Your solution is to deleted it