#game-update

1 messages · Page 16 of 1

vernal valve
#

slightly under a 2% buff just from the acc passive vs olm mage hand

lofty sinew
#

i dps checked the passive on shadow a while ago and it didnt even need to be excluded tbh. the staff is so accurate it was barely a dps gain in the majority of content

minor whale
#

It really was only an issue against things you'd never mage normally
But could you imagine how annoying to use that shit would be
Missing 60% of the time between hits which are then 80%

tacit pendant
#

Anyone here done tha acquisiton contracts yet? Ive been at work

tender harness
#

on the brightside nox is doing delve testing atleast
so that should atleast be functional
while yama is fucked

rain fulcrum
#

i dont tihnk i tcan work like this

lofty sinew
#

regular yama is cool, but these contracts were obviously not playtested. not even considering the difficulty of some of them, but both divine and bloody wasn't even completable due to bugs

rain fulcrum
#

if you miss only 1 tick, your cycle is not 12 ticks

#

because youd be using 11 ticks of weapon cd per cycle, which is impossible

minor whale
#

What was the issue with divine

#

Same as Bloodied?

rain fulcrum
#

so youd need like a 36 tick cycle where you use 33 ticks per cycle

lofty sinew
#

the full cycle is 16 ticks

#

so you'll get 15 active ticks with eye

#

and miss out on the 16th

tender harness
#

dont think divine is bugged its just legit despairge

plush gull
#

the previous rewards were better

lofty sinew
#

might not have been divine that was bugged, but i swear it was 2 of them

lofty sinew
rain fulcrum
#

so which cycle is olms head not moving then

lofty sinew
#

you know when you mage from melee hand and get dragged to middle?

#

so he turns to mage hand

rain fulcrum
#

yea

lofty sinew
#

thats a 4t run

rain fulcrum
#

i understand that you would miss a tick there

#

i dont understand how thats the only tick u are missing

minor whale
#

Just realized Yama makes Zeah so good for leagues

lofty sinew
#

how? its 12 ticks until you drag again

#

3 trident hits

#

4 eye hits

#

olm is on a 4t cycle

rain fulcrum
#

yes but you are missing a tick

#

so it makes sense like you said

#

it has to be 16 ticks

#

and you attack 5 times

#

i am confused what that 16 tick cycle actually is

#

because you cant have a 12 tick cycle where you attack 3.66 times

tacit pendant
lofty sinew
#

you could say its a 12 tick cycle, but its extended

ember token
#

which it does

tacit pendant
#

Gave it to varla last year

lofty sinew
#

so it could very well be 24t or 36t

minor whale
ember token
#

oh wait

tacit pendant
#

Hopefully p3 changes that

lofty sinew
#

so 30 ticks used in a 32 tick cycle

#

you just lose a tick every 16 ticks

rain fulcrum
#

that cant be right

#

it would need to be a multiple of 12, which 32 is not

#

unless you are preventing olm from moving his head for 1 cycle

lofty sinew
#

no, because you're not forcing the extra tick anywhere, you're simply losing it. when you get dragged to middle you'd ideally attack 1 tick before you hit center

#

but you cant

rain fulcrum
#

like

lofty sinew
#

thats the tick loss

rain fulcrum
#

you can tjust "miss a tick" on that run

#

you miss the entire 4th hit

#

because it takes 9 ticks to do 3 hits

#

so you are 1 tick off being able to drag

lofty sinew
#

you delay the 5th hit by 1 tick

#

you get 4 hits in where the trident would get 3

rain fulcrum
#

that does not make sense

lofty sinew
#

it does

plush gull
#

i hate powered staves

rain fulcrum
#

i dont understand how you expect to be able to do the drag hit

#

if you do not do the drag hit, then you miss the entire hit

#

but your weapon is not off cooldown in time to drag

lofty sinew
#

because the drag is on tick 12?

#

which lines up with eye's 3 tick?

rain fulcrum
#

it does not line up

lofty sinew
#

3 6 9 12?

rain fulcrum
#

lets say you were sanging on ticks 1, 5, and 9, then that means the drag tick is tick 9, but if you are using eye, you are hitting on 1, 4, 7, and 10

lofty sinew
#

that makes no sense

rain fulcrum
#

your weapon is still on cooldown

lofty sinew
#

you cant just say 1 5 9

rain fulcrum
#

at the time you need to drag

#

because it takes 9 ticks to do 3 hits

lofty sinew
#

the cycle is 4t lol

rain fulcrum
#

not 8

lofty sinew
#

its 4 8 12

rain fulcrum
#

its all relative, thats just to show you a frame of reference for the tick numbers

#

most likely not losing a shit on of tick sis going to require you to take hits

lofty sinew
rain fulcrum
#

ok so lets say your first eye hit is right when you get to left side

#

you cannot do 3 hits and then still drag

#

because olms cycle is 4 ticks and so you can only use 8 ticks but 3 eye hits is 9 ticks

#

your weapon is on cd when its time to drag

#

assuming it has the same drag spot as sang

#

i assume you could drag from the back of the room like shadow tho?

#

something like the "1" tile from 12:0 should work

lofty sinew
#

yeah you can perfect tick the eye

#

by dragging around 12:0 and 8:1

rain fulcrum
#

if you do not do that, you would lose a fuck ton of ticks

lofty sinew
#

people have tested it with karil xbow

rain fulcrum
#

it would probably just end up with 4 ticking the eye

#

if ud ont

#

2but yeah the root problem with what you say is that if you attack right after the 4t run, you only get 3 hits before its tiem to run the next 4t run

minor whale
#

Some surprising places Eye of Ayak is better than Shadow:
Zulrah green and red phase
Kraken
Nightmare pillars
Dag Rex

#

Kinda neat

lofty sinew
#

hmm

#

it makes no sense

#

you always get dragged on the third trident hit, how would that not line up with a 4th eye hit

rain fulcrum
#

Because 3 eye hits is 1 tick more than 2 sang hits

lofty sinew
#

sure but the 2nd hit does nothing in terms of the rotation. its the 3rd hit that turns his head to melee side which then procs the mage turn

#

w.e you're doing between those things are kinda irrelevant

rain fulcrum
#

It matters because it changes the ticks are you able to click the boss

plush gull
#

just duo cox and take brews and karils xbow to olm lol

#

couldve made it to olm by now

rain fulcrum
#

The hits themselves are not directly correlated with the boss moving

lofty sinew
#

i would to wrap my head around it but my iron doesn't have a karil xbow and i got a shadow so its not relevant to me

#

i guess if you consider the middle hit "free" it makes more sense

#

as it's not really a part of the running cycle

#

if you take that out it's technically an 8 tick trident cycle

#

apperently divine contract has 3 full hp voids spawn p3 making it impossible to kill in time?

#

another impossible contract?

rain fulcrum
#

maybe the jagex play testers could not get to p3

lofty sinew
#

thought they didn't ship difficult content unless they knew it was possible to complete PepeGiggle

#

i asked nox earlier and he didn't playtest any of these so i wonder who did

rain fulcrum
#

they asked chatgpt if it sready to release

#

and it said yea

lofty sinew
#

does chatgpt ever say no

#

even when its straight up wrong it'll say yes and then proceed with some absolute bullshit KEKL

analog crow
#

question is will they be able to fix it before Monday, if it is bugged?

#

Shipping on Friday, risky stuff

ember token
#

they either dont fix it until tuesday or someone comes in on the weekend to fix it

shadow wave
#

They'll probably call someone in tomorrow but I wouldn't expect anything else for about 12 hours now

#

Also Monday is a national holiday over here

lofty sinew
#

i assume they're suppose to spawn with half hp

shadow wave
#

I mean even half HP would be giga fucking crap

lofty sinew
#

half hp is more than fine

#

you can triple purging staff spec

#

3x half hp is faster than 2x full hp

analog crow
#

yah half hp makes sense

sterile moss
#

seems like they were built for duo then just said naw make it solo

hard axle
#

jonglax things

sterile moss
#

giggle

meager flame
#

i mean

#

unless they just decided they're working saturday this is why you dont release on a friday

sterile moss
#

yup waiters win again

meager flame
#

lmao i feel bad for them ngl

#

i dont like how it feels to point out everything that could go wrong and then have it all actually happen

#

i'd rather be wrong and things go great

sterile moss
#

like I mean nobody wants an update to be bad

#

just awkward to do a Friday release when it is a long weekend over there

small anvil
#

i mean if people are shouting about the possible pitfalls, you'd think they would try to double check

sterile moss
#

should have just skipped this week update and release a day early next week tuesday

#

but hindsight

meager flame
#

honestly its not hindsight i was pointing out how crazy it was to release friday days ago

#

its

#

pretty obvious how that can go wrong

long sierra
#

are jmods still awake? can they confirm divine severance is doable and we're just missing something?

sterile moss
#

its almost 11pm over there

long sierra
#

p3 seems bugged but no way to confirm

sterile moss
#

doubt we get anything until tuesday

meager flame
#

tbh in my experience and this has nothing to do with jagex personally

#

but studios usually do have the like

#

emergency call in the work and typically plan for things not going well

#

like most major game releases that see midnight launch

#

they have tons of server guys and stuff awake and working at 4am

#

to make sure it actually goes over well

sterile moss
#

all we can really do is wait

long sierra
#

motivation to send divine severance is low when we dont know of any way to kill the orbs in time

#

4 orbs spawn with full hp and cant kill in time with purging staff, which is currently as far as we know the best dps on them

meager flame
#

i think just watching it

#

that its probably bugged unless they just have some random weapon that kills them

#

with no tell

vernal valve
#

4th orb was from a previous spawn, that isn't a problem. the 3 orbs are the problem

sterile moss
#

3 orbs spawn

meager flame
#

and just expect people to attack them with random stuff

long sierra
#

even 3 orbs is impossible

vernal valve
#

3 orb spawn wasn't possible unless there is some random shit that kills them yeah

#

1 orb was slightly desynced from the others, so it could be that they don't always spawn that close in time to each other and it's slightly RNG

meager flame
#

i also wonder if you're supposed to just do enough dps

#

to not get the triple orb

sterile moss
#

900 damage

meager flame
#

and they messed up the hp tuning

sterile moss
#

aint no way

vernal valve
#

there's basically no way tbh yeah

sterile moss
#

the triple was the third group of orbs and you are already down 20 ticks from first 2 orbs

hard axle
#

might be a pneck null angle

vernal valve
#

i think the most likely answer is that 2 orbs are normal from yama p3, the 3rd slightly desynced one is just the ones that occasionally spawn as part of the contract. If that's the case, whether or not it spawns in time with the 2 orbs could depend on when you enter P3.

vernal valve
meager flame
#

ya i've seen people try several tricks to null damage and they dont seem to work

sterile moss
vernal valve
#

the orbs in that contract just always one shot you no matter what

#

if they go off ur dead

#

no way to null it that we know of

#

the contract also straight up says they kill you, so that's probably intentional

vernal valve
#

with that said that's all a guess. If the orbs are always synced and spawn at the same time like that then lmao impossible ig

sterile moss
#

it seems like its just a goof that they are full hp

vast robin
#

Delayed 9 days just for 2/5 to be impossible

sterile moss
#

if the regular spawning orbs are full but the p3 orbs are half its fine

vernal valve
unreal plover
#

bloodied blows is possible

#

but might be a bit rng reliant

vernal valve
#

it's possible now, they hotfixed it

unreal plover
#

nah not even that

#

you can splash on flares

vernal valve
#

oh that's what you mean

long sierra
#

p3 feels like the orbs should be half hp still in divine severance but spawning more frequently

#

but they spawn too frequently with full hp

wispy current
long sierra
#

im 4/5 atm but feeling unmotivated to tackle divine severance cause 0 clue how p3 can be solved

strong lintel
#

holy water?

tender harness
#

good lord

image.png
strong lintel
#

might 1 shot?

long sierra
#

trying to think if you can attack with a fast weapon to get it low enough hp to spec finish with purging staff

#

but nothing will deal enough dmg, they have 150 hp

vernal valve
strong lintel
#

it would be funny though

tender harness
#

holy water tech pepegahands

#

make it a thing

fiery epoch
#

Did jagex not test contracts

tender harness
#

no, nox did not

long sierra
#

what could you max with holy water

#

it is 3 tick so youd save 1 tick if you can holy water into purging staff

strong lintel
#

it would only work if it was like a custom insta 1 hit

long sierra
#

7t instead of 8t

#

per orb

wispy current
#

i thought nox said he did it?

ember token
#

it spawns 3 orbs, are they all the same color? or is it like, 2 red 1 purple orb

tender harness
#

No he did not do the testing

long sierra
#

colors dont matter in p3. no glyphs

small anvil
#

nox did not playtest these contracts as far as we know

ember token
tender harness
#

this is literal classic jagex QA

vernal valve
#

yeah they're the same color

#

1 spawned 1 tick earlier

ember token
#

hmm

fiery epoch
meager flame
#

i think most likely

ember token
#

i was gonna say maybe you have to kill the odd orb out

#

like if there's 2 red and 1 purple, you kill the purple orb and leave the red orbs

meager flame
#

its supposed to spawn 2 and there is another mechanic that spawns 1 and there is no internal cooldown

ember token
#

or something along those lines

meager flame
#

to prevent an unkillable wave from spawning

wispy current
strong lintel
#

its phase 3, there are no glyphs to protect you

meager flame
#

when they go off together

fiery epoch
#

Tyty

vernal valve
#

the contract constantly spawns orbs

#

the 1 tick off orb was probably from that

rain fulcrum
#

ngl this is even bad stream content its so boring wathcing p1/p2 over and over, same probloem as playing normal yama lolo

vernal valve
#

the 2 others were just normal P3 Yama spawns

ember token
meager flame
#

i just dont know how the mechanic works on its own

#

so yeah you might be able to just rng out an attempt where they're desynced

#

and its playable

ember token
#

like if it just wouldnt kill you if you did something correctly

meager flame
#

or maybe not

small anvil
#

was there hourglass ticks to save

meager flame
#

jagex is actually super bad about stuff like that too

vernal valve
meager flame
#

they almost never make mechanics put other mechanics on a short cd to prevent super unplayable combinations

#

so it would be a typical mistake

rain fulcrum
#

i love me some pnm husks into sleepwalkers

strong lintel
#

awakened vardorvis

long sierra
#

could theoretically save 3 ticks maybe with the meteor dodges but it still looks impossible

rain fulcrum
#

i know thats avoidable but

long sierra
#

its just so much hp to take down

#

depends on how the meteor falls line up

tender harness
#

tf is up with these yama contracts

v29l3gh8tl2f1.png
strong lintel
#

rad how long does it take for a voidflare to spawn in divine severence

long sierra
#

it spawns 1 here and there kind of like medic in toa but then spawns a batch of 2 in between at some point

strong lintel
#

i might just go and check if holy water does something

meager flame
#

lol tbh

vernal valve
#

😭 there's no way man, it's a meme

meager flame
#

if the mechanic has anything to do with when you spawn into p3

#

the fix might be jumping back on the tiles far enough or something crazy

strong lintel
#

im buylimited 😦

meager flame
#

to delay yourself spawning in

#

but thats just crazy stuff trying to see if you can desync mechanics

modest estuary
#

nah that isnt it u can insta spawn into p3 insta get on orbs still isnt enough

#

its like chunk based on judge where u spawn p3 if ur host and stand on certain tile

#

ull always get da closest spawns

#

imo shit is just impossible

meager flame
#

ya im talking about seeing if the timer for spawning the extra orb will change based on when you spawn in

#

it probably wont work at all but like

strong lintel
#

are the orbs the same ones you get in the normal fight?

modest estuary
#

oo i z

meager flame
#

this is just broken most likely

vernal valve
#

even if it is somehow possible or it's RNG or something it's almost definitely getting nerfed/fixed when jagex gets the chance imo

#

so whatever

#

i think it's just cooked rn

modest estuary
#

ye i think its broken but im not rly mald its clear they dont rly have ppl to playtest difficulty lvls the hlc will b happy with so they def tuned it above a lvl they could do and hopefully will fix it

#

happy for 1 time it isnt released too easy xd

meager flame
#

the main takeaway here is please never release on a friday again

#

lmao

minor whale
#

Legit

strong lintel
#

are they out of office?

minor whale
#

Why the fuck lmao

#

Yeah until Tuesday

strong lintel
#

oof

modest estuary
#

tbf we could also still just be missing smth

#

i dont really see how but maybe

strong lintel
#

to be honest i can't imagine they would release this without having completed it on a friday

#

there might be something missing

modest estuary
#

all i know is im not losing any more gp its up to the ppl who get paid to play game xd

restive siren
#

there is a chance they have a handful of emergency staff to fix things on the weekend, many companies do that nowadays

#

will see

modest estuary
#

ig thats only part im mald about paying for each contract knowing that its maybe impossible to do atm

tender harness
#

Acquisition contracts are apparently despair

true talon
#

Muts right now..... "these contracts arent required for GM right??" "jagex uhhhh yea buddy sure"

small anvil
#

they already said doing any contract gets you the achievement

strong lintel
#

ima test holy water

meager flame
#

jagex should include the bosses for gm even if they decided not to

analog crow
meager flame
#

they should also make reasonable boss fights

#

that you know

#

work

#

but they'll have some time to fix that

strong lintel
#

it does 0 damage lmfao

analog crow
#

scam game

rain fulcrum
true talon
#

Seems jagex has taken the blizzard approach. release it fast and fix it later XD

rain fulcrum
#

Why should it not require all 5

meager flame
#

because they're silly

analog crow
#

That will be the new diary requirement

meager flame
#

its the same thing as people wanting to keep max cape when sailing releases while not being maxed

vernal valve
true talon
#

Hey people wanted a hard boss, jagex gave it to them

vernal valve
#

like they clearly reasoned out that forcing people to do these fights might be unreasonable and a bad idea with contracts as they were implemented

true talon
#

Sit down nerds

vernal valve
#

and instead of going "wait, may be we should reevaluate the system"

#

they went "well we'll just exclude it from GM"

meager flame
#

or when they talked about quest cape not requiring all quests

vernal valve
#

💀

true talon
#

Yama Claimer of souls and HLC tears

narrow folio
#

So oathplate acquisition, is it infinite if u clear every time and get a refund on the contract? The heck?

meager flame
#

at some point they need to just stop and ask what the point of an item is

strong lintel
#

it isnt

vernal valve
narrow folio
#

Or is that refund not for all contracts?

small anvil
analog crow
narrow folio
#

Oh

meager flame
#

the refund is for cosmetic contracts

strong lintel
#

any acquisition that isnt pet you dont get refunded

true talon
meager flame
#

but really idk its simple

analog crow
meager flame
#

if you make a new hardest boss it goes on the gm helm

#

if you make a new skill it has to be done for max cape

#

quests for quest cape etc

rain fulcrum
#

Are all the acquisition contracts basically the same

meager flame
#

thats the point of those items existing

true talon
vernal valve
small anvil
#

some can't be done duo

rain fulcrum
#

That's really disappointing

#

Nice variety jagex

small anvil
#

oathplate is solo only

strong lintel
#

its functionally nice so that you can practice

analog crow
#

Are the oathplate aquisition contracts not available yet?

strong lintel
#

the insane difficult fight without wasting 80m

rain fulcrum
#

I guess so

small anvil
#

you can practice for consistency on worm contracts

strong lintel
#

i mean its still 7 variants on the fight total

rain fulcrum
#

How hard is it to duo the shard acquisition one

small anvil
#

then cash in oath i guess

vernal valve
strong lintel
#

i don't know anyone who has completed an acquisition contract

analog crow
#

I haven't even seen an aquisition contract fight

vernal valve
tranquil river
#

I hate this, legit i need a break from this game. Never been this pissed after an update

small anvil
#

streamers all going for the recolor

rain fulcrum
analog crow
#

no idea what it looks like

vernal valve
#

eveyone's focused on the oathplate ones

vernal valve
meager flame
#

its also because those contracts cost so much

#

that odablock would think twice about sending them repeatedly

tacit pendant
#

Making 5 and then sending them unfinished is......

analog crow
#

yeah 70m entry ticket is way too much

tacit pendant
#

Just make 1 really great one

strong lintel
#

thats why the worm one is the same

rain fulcrum
#

Yeah that's why I'm interested in shard acquisition

strong lintel
#

so you can practice lmao

vernal valve
#

oathplate could have just been 1 contract, maybe 2. contracts like worm acquisition just should not have existed lmao

rain fulcrum
#

It's duo and only like 6m so 3m an attempt per person

analog crow
#

And they could have rolled out the contracts gradually

#

it would also keep Yama relevant for longer

rain fulcrum
#

Seems like contracts is yet another system that sounds cool when they pitch it

#

Then is just crap in reality

strong lintel
#

the garunteed drop ones are cool imo

analog crow
#

One contract released each week or something

#

7 weeks of Yama

rain fulcrum
#

I like the idea of the guaranteed drop ones

lofty sinew
#

the bloodied concept is the only cool one. due to the dmg it's not a 10+ min slugfest

rain fulcrum
#

But I think they shouldn't be lost on death

lofty sinew
#

the rest are way too long and tedious imo

rain fulcrum
#

Yeah I can't even watch the streams

#

It's so boring

long sierra
#

man im so upset about divine severance

vernal valve
lofty sinew
#

by the time you complete p1 divine you're already p3 on bloodied

strong lintel
#

i mean there is a range of speeds just like the range in awakened bosses

true talon
#

Ya 1:39 awakened vard vs 13 min whisperer XD

rain fulcrum
#

Could bloodied be viable for money or is still slower than a normal kill?

lofty sinew
#

isnt all of these 10 min except bloodied?

strong lintel
#

you don't get loot

rain fulcrum
#

Oh

#

Lmao

strong lintel
#

you get a sigil

lofty sinew
#

you can get unique loot

rain fulcrum
#

I thought it would be loot+sigil

strong lintel
#

oh you can?

lofty sinew
#

ye you just cant roll regular loot

analog crow
#

I thought regular loot was disabled

meager flame
#

yeah they made sure you're absolutely not allowed to get regular loot

#

but you can get uniques

#

for

#

honestly

strong lintel
#

are uniques more common?

meager flame
#

i have no logic that makes sense for that

lofty sinew
#

imagine i got 90 worms from my 10 min divine contract that is a one time completion

#

it'd have ruined the economy

analog crow
strong lintel
#

tbh the reasoning is probably that they replaced the table with the contract so you always get it

#

back*

meager flame
#

yeah but they dont have to do that they can do tertiary drops

#

they just

#

didnt

#

the pet even takes a loot roll away for this boss

#

because fuck us i guess

#

at least for the pet though it was hotfixed into the game

#

so maybe they couldn't quickly fix it

vernal valve
#

p. sure the pet thing is fixed now

#

unless that was misinformation

vocal harness
#

this whole contract fiasco is like a trainwreck in slow motion

#

its taken them a week to raise contract rates to about what i said they should be pre-release

meager flame
#

you dont understand

strong lintel
#

seems a bit dramatic, the new boss is fun and the items are cool

meager flame
#

we know you all absolutely hated these mechanics but we had to see how you would react to them again for no reason

vocal harness
#

like it was patently obvious they were too rare. Idk why it took them so long to realize it

meager flame
#

oh yeah the drop rates are insane

vernal valve
meager flame
#

i laughed when i looked at them

#

i saved my dossiers after their update too

#

because it was obviously pathetic and not going to fix the problem

#

and they had to giga buff them after that lol

vernal valve
#

i really think the contract release today has gone much worse than even the most pessimistic people expected it to

meager flame
#

it paid off too honestly the dossiers i saved turned into like

#

almost 50 contracts

vocal harness
#

i only saved two dossiers, but I never got scrolls from the other ones so its fine

meager flame
#

sometimes i feel like they're just probing to see how far they can take the bullshit with drop rates

#

to extend playtime as much as they can

vernal valve
vernal valve
meager flame
#

im pretty sure they just actually got blindsided by something very obvious with oathplate

vernal valve
#

I think it really is just an issue of a lot of balance decisions falling to individual jmods working on a given project

meager flame
#

i believe they honestly did not think through tradable bad luck protection items

#

and what that actually means

vernal valve
#

Resulting in wildly varied droprates, item strengths, etc.

meager flame
#

they were probably sitting there calculating how long it would take 1 person to get the oathplate shards to make an item

#

and somehow didnt think for a second about what happens when people trade them and like 2342342423 people do the boss instantly

strong lintel
#

im sorry what is the problem with oathplate shards?

meager flame
#

you can crowd source bad luck protection

#

and instantly create tons of items

strong lintel
#

and thats bad because...

meager flame
#

where in cases like a SRA or vestige chances

kind surge
#

because oathplate is cheap as hell

strong lintel
#

its 138m

meager flame
#

you have to dedicate time to the content to actually profit from your time investment

strong lintel
#

and it generated a mining method that makes money, and fun smithing

meager flame
#

thus the actual realized gains from partial credit are 0

#

for anyone that doesn't stick it out

#

but if you can trade it you flood the market on the spot

vernal valve
meager flame
#

the difference is thousands of items

vernal valve
#

mark my words

meager flame
#

basically

torpid delta
#

50m feels high

kind surge
#

also 138m after only a week LOL

vernal valve
dusty shore
#

wtf will yamas gp/hr be at sub 50...

kind surge
#

that is so little

strong lintel
#

it was 120 yesterday

meager flame
#

yeah it makes sense though

#

people dont have to spend time on the boss to benefit from the bad luck backup system

strong lintel
#

i understand that, why is that a bad thing

meager flame
#

so we're just seeing the maximum output from the content at all times

strong lintel
#

you still need to process the shards lmao

meager flame
#

oh its bad because its generating items at an incredible rate

#

and their value is crashing through the earth

#

it should've just been a system to help people out that spent a bunch of time with the boss

#

and maybe didnt get the drop they should've

#

but instead its just an additional lane to create tons of items asap

vernal valve
#

it's a problem of longevity. looking at it and shrugging and saying "well, it made a skilling method profitable!" is insanely short sighted, because in a year from now the skilling method in question will be worthless and yama's gp/hr will be in the gutter

kind surge
#

just give the bots some time to mine more shale

meager flame
#

the skilling method is honestly too good anyways to be profitable

vernal valve
#

not to mention the inevitable knock on effects to other melee gear and the methods to obtain them

meager flame
#

long term

#

it took me a week to get 450 shards on my iron

strong lintel
#

i mean it does front load the market adjustment by making items available quicker, but honestly im fine with that

meager flame
#

guess how long it took me to 3t enough shale to make the item

vernal valve
#

it's not really about speed, it's about quantity

meager flame
#

im not even sure if it was an hour of shale

strong lintel
#

ok so nerf the drop rates more?

meager flame
#

they should make the oathplate shards untradable

strong lintel
#

then there is no reason to mine shale

meager flame
#

you'd still need shale for them but yeah

#

thats fine though

vernal valve
# strong lintel ok so nerf the drop rates more?

the problem is i think the actual oathplate droprates themselves are fine, and nerfing them enough to offset shards makes the boss feel terrible to do even if the gp/hr maths out bc then you're spending an ungodly amount of time between unique drops

meager flame
#

the skilling method is the most unnecessary and biggest reach i've seen in a long time from jagex

strong lintel
#

i friggin love the skilling part of the update

meager flame
#

they're out there doing backflips trying to shoehorn as much content as they possibly can into this

tacit pendant
#

I mean consistent money through shards only would still feel fine

meager flame
#

and making super questionable decisions

#

trying to cater to absolutely everything

#

we're gonna do

tacit pendant
#

I like big drops but others like shit like vorkath or collo

meager flame
#

a duo solo end game approachable low level demon farm mining skilling method end game boss

#

like

#

fucking stop

#

lmao

tacit pendant
#

If they went in with a very coherent "this will not be a big ticket drop boss", things coulda been ok

meager flame
#

oh i forgot wealth redistributing

#

see this is what i mean

#

if you just actually type it out that shit is crazy

tacit pendant
#

What has helped my mental is comparing the armor to masori rather than torva and just coping that nex bad.

meager flame
#

everything that people are complaining about with all of this content loops back around to jagex's attempt to actually cater to anyone thats breathing and playing osrs

#

there is no focus

rain fulcrum
#

Every update has to target everyone

#

For some reason

meager flame
#

tbh this is the worst its ever been

#

they just refused to focus on a couple of things and do it well

#

and tried to just rope in everything

tacit pendant
#

This update just target early adopters cuz uh, this week has been the easiest money of my rs career

rain fulcrum
#

They basically outright lied by calling Yama an endgame duo boss whrn it's neither of those

wispy current
#

What if oath is low because the boss is actually fun and torva is so high bc no one likes nex

strong lintel
#

thank u tuan lmao

rain fulcrum
#

It's not just that

#

Torva is much longer to get

vernal valve
rain fulcrum
#

Also the boss isn't really fun

#

P3 is

kind surge
#

nex masses have been a thing forever

strong lintel
#

idk man i have fun with this boss

rain fulcrum
#

P1/p2 ruin the boss

tacit pendant
#

I dont wanna have the "endgame" convo again, but its atleast pre-inferno tier with dt2 bosses.

Also nex is not dead content thats a horrible arguement, shes not my fav but every world was popping last month

#

Nex has been consistently farmed on nearly every world 24/7 since fang blood fury meta made everyone with 100m have a great shot at propelling into endgame

meager flame
#

the real problem they're running into

wispy current
#

I dont like tradeable shards at all. Someone with a ton of gp can just make insane bank for zero

vernal valve
meager flame
#

is that they made a competitive set to torva and is situationally better (very very common situation too)

#

and got reality checked by the nex drop rates

#

they obviously cant 1 up that and make people happy

tacit pendant
#

Torva itself is funnily enough like orbs. Its only used by post 3 megas crowd, but gives hella money to dudes in rags

meager flame
#

the same thing would happen if they made armor to compete with inquisitor

vernal valve
rain fulcrum
#

as much as ppl meme inq its much better balanced than oath

#

its pretty much always bis for crush

meager flame
#

and it just completely crashed after the drop rates not being sane got exposed

#

by reasonable drop rates

rain fulcrum
#

but only good against crush weak bosses

meager flame
#

people only say thats good rn

#

because jagex doesn't make those or have actual good crush weapons

rain fulcrum
#

imo oath should at least have negatives in other styles

#

to troll your mauls

meager flame
#

so you can mostly just file it away under the who actually cares section of side grades

tacit pendant
#

Horn has entered chat

#

But i agree

rain fulcrum
#

semio requiring you to use horn is something, at least

true talon
meager flame
#

guaranteed if they suddenly moved end game over to using crush

tacit pendant
#

I like inq alot but mostly cuz i like rax and pnm

meager flame
#

and inquisitor was mostly bis where it counted

#

people would go crazy

#

over the rates

rain fulcrum
#

inq rates r fine

#

like the rare part of that boss isnt even inq

tacit pendant
#

Well see if jagex gives crush and stab some love this year 🙂 and ranged

vernal valve
#

literally a single real crush boss and inq triples overnight tbh

true talon
rain fulcrum
#

rip emberlite enjoyers

true talon
#

Its nice they gave magic some love with yama

narrow folio
#

Araxxor was a real crush boss

vernal valve
rain fulcrum
#

no

#

he was a cruhs boss

meager flame
#

araxxor isnt a real boss in the context of what we mean

rain fulcrum
#

but not a real boss

tacit pendant
#

Rax is a real boss tbf

true talon
#

Delve boss prob wont be that bad. it wont have this dumbass duo or contract system reducing its development

rain fulcrum
#

rax is afk

#

you stand there and hit him

#

and ignore the crabs

tacit pendant
#

So is yama kek

meager flame
#

yeah it will have 8 floors

#

and a whole new silly system

#

dont you worry

#

we will be back here in a few months

true talon
rain fulcrum
#

all i want is a boss with no system

#

and not 2minute kills

spiral storm
#

And floors 2-8 require contracts and special mechanics to engage

#

And like 60 orbs

rain fulcrum
#

actually i think contracts had serious potential to be cool fi they were untradable and very common drops

tacit pendant
#

They need to bin the floor skip item please

kind surge
#

can't wait for the new profitable farming mini-minigame method at mokha that'll make it profitable for less experienced players

tacit pendant
#

U cant skip the bullshit in inferno

rain fulcrum
#

i thouhgt they already binned that

true talon
vernal valve
tacit pendant
#

Them makin mace get a bigger crush effect was a massive mistake for future weapons imo

vernal valve
#

after araxxor plateskirt ~doubled in price, and jumped up again after the buff

true talon
#

Them trying to funnel gold to low lvl palyers makes 0 sense. there is no need for huge gp on low lvl account that would kill greater demons or black demons.

tacit pendant
#

But i guess bludgeon wasnt allowed to be good

true talon
#

low lvl accounts even ironmen have a lot of gold making methods. hell 56 agility is 3m/h in the wildy

rain fulcrum
#

i wish they would go all in on theset bonuses for these too

#

instead of going away from that b/c of slayer helm

#

just find some other solution, like let slayer helm count for the set bonuis

true talon
hard axle
tacit pendant
#

Its spec did get fixed

hard axle
true talon
#

Atleast sire dont suck now

#

When jagex made heavy ballista usable......

image.png
rain fulcrum
#

why the fuck are headless arrows a buy limit on 11k

hard axle
true talon
#

havnt you ever processed something

rain fulcrum
#

no the irons do that

narrow folio
#

Inquis buffs was only for mace and its still what, 3rd best weapon there?

#

Crush scythe was literally the only reason nothing else got buffed

tacit pendant
#

Give scythe the fang treatment

true talon
#

World first XD "dont bully me"

image.png
odd basalt
#

Maybe give ghrazi some love too, it kinda isn't good, zombie axe is better

true talon
#

Armor looks pretty bad......

hard axle
narrow folio
#

Make it reroll damage but only in tob 👍

hard axle
#

stop it

#

ur getting ur ass beat erm

narrow folio
#

😳

hard axle
#

do not fang-only passive rapier

tacit pendant
#

Give ghrazi the purging staff spec

vernal valve
hard axle
narrow folio
#

Damage not accuracy 👍

hard axle
vernal valve
#

point still remains though, araxxor by itself did turbo spike inquis, lol

narrow folio
#

If the inquis buff applied to every weapon it would just be overpowered af tbh

tacit pendant
#

I guess what im saying is, if the buff was gonna be mace only

odd basalt
#

If ghrazi had a decent spec it would justify it's price compared to all the other weapons with the same str bonus and attack speed that are cheaper and better

tacit pendant
#

Just give that part to the mace

narrow folio
#

Rapiers the cheapest out of the 4t trio

tacit pendant
#

Ghrazi rapier spec, 10% lunge 4 tiles at target and hit with 110% str

#

Schmovement

narrow folio
#

Oh geez itd be used for runecrafting somehow kekw

tacit pendant
#

Finally

#

Zip around zmi lmfao

odd basalt
narrow folio
#

My god

#

Movement specs or enhancers havent been a thing ever

hard axle
#

10 tiles away? blinks to target

tacit pendant
#

A movement spec that uses stamina and spec bar

#

10 would break so much content

hard axle
tacit pendant
#

4-6 would be niche and fun, prob bad

narrow folio
#

Rs3 dash looked so cool

red scroll
hard axle
#

nah 10 is useful for

#

gap closing

#

and mauling faster

tacit pendant
#

It lets you move "like a rook"

narrow folio
#

Imagine using it to gap a pker

tacit pendant
#

Castle me so i can hit maul pls

true talon
tacit pendant
#

Honestly would make pvp chases pretty crazy

red scroll
tacit pendant
#

Fashion or animation swap?

#

I wish that plugin let you see other users of the same plugin. But thats prob exponentially more work

true talon
kind surge
red scroll
kind surge
#

that would be so funny

tacit pendant
#

Not if u turn off the plugin?

#

Like only plugin users could see ur mogs

red scroll
#

they cry about everything already

#

they would find a way

#

xd

#

but i agree it would be cool

ember token
ornate wolfBOT
tacit pendant
#

Pvp good im not a hater

kind surge
#

or [[rsw:barge]]

ornate wolfBOT
serene crypt
tacit pendant
#

Jagex give us wavedashing please

hard axle
red scroll
neon gate
quiet plank
#

Do greater demons in the chasm of fire drop something new now?

red scroll
quiet plank
#

I'm talking about since Yama in general

#

So I can get contracts while I'm down here doing slayer?

red scroll
quiet plank
#

Lol I'm still doing barrows on this account

meager flame
#

ngl they're giving me wow ptsd with their insistence on trying to invent systems around bosses

#

blizzard had to learn their lesson the very hard way by almost killing their game with shadowlands to understand people just dont really like that shit

true talon
toxic verge
#

the goal they set out originally for the contracts would have been interesting if it played out well

true talon
#

Comparing colo to perilous moons. PM was done way better. we had shaman hitting 33 with water strike on release.

#

worst hit boxes possible. looked like a deserted colosseum with few pillars. no detail or texture.

#

then you go to PM and its this insane fleshed out cave/dungeon with amazing bosses and ironman friendly prep that also added a few skilling methods.

#

Best thing about colo was sol and manti-cores

#

Jagex if you make oathplate shards and contracts untradeable, you will remove trillions of GP from the game XD

#

Since all the merch idiots bought them up

rain fulcrum
#

that doesnt remove the gp from the game

#

idiot moment

odd basalt
#

I recommend removing contracts from the game entirely and just let people fight the boss, everybody holding contracts just get the high alch value of them lol

true talon
kind surge
#

if it was taxed then it's gone in the first place

rain fulcrum
#

that ge tax is already removed from the game brother

kind surge
#

making them untradable doesn't change it

rain fulcrum
#

in fact it removes less because now u cannot sell them on the ge again

#

lol

small anvil
#

Most shards get turned into armor right away

#

After being sold

true talon
#

Yea the oilers bought the shards an flooded the market

obsidian venture
#

An iron not understanding osrs economy, tryna explain osrs economy 🤣

red scroll
#

you could make 10 to 15m per armor

#

just crafting it

true talon
obsidian venture
#

Congratulations for playing mainscape like a dingus

#

That’s not most other folks

true talon
#

Occasionally id buy tbow/max gear and go for maxing. then give up an go do chambers and then id go back to sand casino lol.

obsidian venture
#

Your experience as a main who made poor choices doesn’t reflect anyone but yourself mate

analog crow
#

Gambling is against the rules

obsidian venture
#

Everyone else is grinding something

true talon
obsidian venture
#

Yeah dumb people making dumb choices

#

What’s new

hard axle
odd basalt
#

What was sand casino?

true talon
#

Glad you think that, but a massive ammount of end game players/streamers did nothing but stake lol

hard axle
obsidian venture
#

Confusing endgamers and streamers

red scroll
obsidian venture
#

People did partake but you’re far removed from actually understanding who did what back then

#

Casuals were the biggest offender of it

hard axle
#

Them getting rid of DA and replacing with GE Tax also lessened incentives to bot gp to sell to addicts

obsidian venture
#

Also glad you called out irons for making an iron after losing in the sandy village

hard axle
#

since the demand for raw GP dried up real fucking quick

true talon
#

Ya DA and DMin removed was massive.

hard axle
#

the amount of people moving to DM from DA was tiny

#

like a fraction

#

and then DM got banned too

true talon
#

Yea so they had to resort to servicing. soon as thats gone we in a better spot.

hard axle
#

u dont need that much raw gp ever, even when ur trying to be a psycho collector like me

rain fulcrum
#

did they adjust purging staff spell cost yet

tender harness
#

Yes they made it more expensive for you

true talon
odd basalt
#

One who has that much raw gp can buy out the scythe, tbow market tho so the price goes higher

hard axle
#

buy limits gl

rain fulcrum
#

just ask ppl at the ge to buy scythes for u

odd basalt
#

Buy limits reset and not many go on the market compared to others, also ye others bypass limit

analog crow
#

good so now you have 10 scythes you can't use

narrow folio
#

Saying majority of irons were gambling addicts is just wrong

obsidian venture
#

Def wasn’t but a good amount literally made irons because of it

#

It was a nice little pipeline

odd basalt
#

It's not about using them, it's about gathering as many as possible for a reddit post

narrow folio
#

I've met a few but not anywhere near the majority

analog crow
obsidian venture
#

Good amount of folks in cc way back did it

odd basalt
obsidian venture
#

It was either that or getting bored of slayer and bosses on their 1700 total main and then making an iron to experience the game

#

Which is fine

#

For the longest time even endgamers didn’t want to make one

#

Over the last 2 or so, most of them have at least one, if they haven’t gone down the hcim pipeline

narrow folio
#

Like I wouldn't look at the average iron and assume they used to abuse duel arena

obsidian venture
#

Nowadays def not

#

In like 2019? Was kind of an issue

lament peak
obsidian venture
#

Depends on your goals

#

If you want to delve more into endgame, then main is ideal

#

But if that’s not your style then iron is good yeah

#

At the end of the day, we are doing the same grinds whether it’s for gp/clog/progression

#

One just uses ge to do things, the other has to make from scratch

#

My cc is now mostly iron with folks never hitting endgame on a main

#

Kinda avg

neon gate
rain fulcrum
#

I hope they find a cure to the iron disease

neon gate
#

Stop talking about me

obsidian venture
#

You do have a interesting past 🤐

true talon
#

but they end up getting to end game and de-iron lol

swift ivy
#

okay im selling my oath helm, so they will probably add a set effect/buff it monday according to the law

true talon
#

because thats where it ends

rain fulcrum
#

liking iron is fine

#

its the irons hwo play iron then bitch about things being too hard that r anoying

true talon
#

End game is a mainscape mode, the progressive journey to get there is better live as an ironman

meager flame
#

lol irons are not people that fell victim to the sand casino

true talon
# obsidian venture Depends on your goals

Yea i think the iron side is kind of fulfilling, you do these prep phases and go process all your drops, you feel like your interacting with the game and its systems over just dumping 10k rune ore on the GE.

meager flame
#

wtf have i been reading

naive arch
#

something something people should make themselves happy by making content as slow and miserable as possible

#

because it makes it mean more to them

#

#make imbued heart take 200m xp

true talon
meager flame
#

i mean im an iron and while if you're asking if i've ever staked anything the answer is yes but

#

it was totally irrelevant to me playing an iron

#

i've never staked anything on specifically osrs tho

#

i legit just think the game is better when you go do the content and earn things yourself instead of trading and potentially skipping over content because its not time efficient gp wise

#

thats why i play an iron at least

naive arch
#

Couldn't you like make a muspah thing where for like 2 venators bows worth of mats, u could trade it for a heart or untradable version for irons

narrow folio
true talon
#

But iron for the progressive journy feels great.
Your not just getting 90 herblore so you can make your own overloads, your able to now save 2 inventory slots on producing super combats.
Your not just getting 85 smithing, your doing it to process your boss drops into gp to get a maxed house or purchase runes for your pvm.
Almost every skill interacts with ironman game mode fairly well. and the worlds feels more fleshed out.
now there are downsides of being stuck at something you honestly hate due to bad rng where as a main can go do content they enjoy to produce the gp to buy the item.
But getting the item yourself is very satisfying.

meager flame
#

some people would probably disagree but seeing the item appear on the floor in front of me will always be 10000000x more exciting than watching my ge offer complete

#

and taking the item out of it to use

obsidian venture
meager flame
#

and the drops dont hit the same when i already have the item in my hands

#

at least not for me

#

like i could get tbow #2 on my iron right now and i wouldn't give a shit

true talon
meager flame
#

same as on my main

#

its all about not having one and getting it the first time

naive arch
#

Also ironmen: complain about having 4x more drops on rate at nex because it's 7x vambraces and 1 piece of torva

obsidian venture
#

Both feel good

naive arch
#

and their brews are gone

obsidian venture
#

So again it doesn’t matter except to the person

true talon
#

Doesnt hit the same at all. like woo a split i can upgrade my gear. vs holy i just got the item i been in this god forsake place for and i can finally leave!

#

xd

obsidian venture
#

Doesn’t hit the same for YOU

narrow folio
#

Feels like you actually earned the item and it came to you specifically

meager flame
#

i think it kind of changes over time too

true talon
#

End game iron does have it flaws. mainly due to lack of end game consumable methods. they have slowly made it better overtime. but there is still massive ammount of gaps.

lament peak
#

hasPause dragon arrow discussion

meager flame
#

like buying things you've never had and cant believe you made it to getting can feel good although for me it wasnt ever as good as iron drops feel

true talon
#

Scar ess fixed a massive flaw in end game iron

meager flame
#

but eventually even that went away for me when i just had too much gp

true talon
#

W update

meager flame
#

its kinda hard to get super excited for more money when you kinda aren't even doing anything with it anymore

#

and you're just stacking numbers that dont do anything

obsidian venture
#

Would disagree

meager flame
#

i went through a very long arc though to get to that point

obsidian venture
#

But devolving mainscape to just ge and no fun is very low iq

true talon
#

Also i ruined a great pure to make a main, put 4b on it from my iron in dupes and got a quiver + inferno cape. did a quest cape and now i havnt logged into it lol

meager flame
#

i loved making gp and upgrading phats for example before osrs happened

#

that version of the game had such a long runway for me to keep having new goals to buy

obsidian venture
#

Hop in a vc or talk in cc when they get a drop

#

Have a human interaction

#

You’d be shocked by the results

meager flame
#

its sorta similar to what happened when i played wow eventually its just kinda beat and you can't keep doing the same thing for actually forever

true talon
#

Anyways, how do you guys think they gonna fix contracts esp with the weekend + memorial day happening.

meager flame
#

at least i cant

lament peak
#

ackshually my opinion is the objectively correct one and you are low iq hasNerd

true talon
#

Contracts shoulda went the way of the ruinous prayers

meager flame
#

i came back to raid got good logs collected my mounts and CE for every raid tier before ce even existed up to like a decade past when they started adding them

#

one day i thought about doing another raid tier and i just didn't want to anymore

#

i think thats why multiple osrs modes exist though and why its great that they do

obsidian venture
true talon
obsidian venture
meager flame
#

ya i would pug for m+ seasonal title for the top .1% or whatever it was for a few seasons before i was finally just done

#

you eventually got to where you knew who the pugs were lol

obsidian venture
#

But literally look at the different folks who post drops and tell me they aren’t excited

true talon
#

OSRS is great, because i can leave anytime and nothing changes. i just got more content to do.

#

I actually love that

meager flame
#

ya i try to tell people sometimes that the best part about osrs is that you can play when you want with whoever you want or with nobody

#

and the game actually lets that happen

#

you dont have to come back and grind at the start of seasons or get locked into specific group sizes

#

and they dont invalidate anything you previously did

#

you dont just log in and find out your barrows gloves are now trash and you need to spend 20 hours doing the new barrows gloves 2.0 content

#

only to do 3.0 3 months after that

#

or get on and find out 99 str is ass and the new cap is 200

true talon
#

Isnt sailing coming soon?

#

or is that shit scrapped XD

meager flame
#

yeah but thats a new skill

#

its not the same skill getting massively expanded making all previous effort irrelevant

true talon
#

Sailing is agility on water

meager flame
#

im ngl

#

thats partially true

winged mantle
meager flame
#

when i played the sailing beta there was no real way around it

lament peak
#

I only like the exploring part of sailing. Like discovering an island with new resources and slayer mobs

meager flame
#

they definitely just took training methods from other skills and made them water themed

#

agility was one of them

#

as well as gathering skills being another

#

sea charting and port tasks were kind of the sailing unique experience

#

and port tasks where you would take cargo around was pretty rough

#

just running back and forth with crates on the dock was pretty insane hopefully they let up on that and let you just pick up and get back to sailing in one trip

#

instead of moving it to your ship 1 box at a time

tacit pendant
#

Phosanis will be better money than nex 5 mans by next week, les go

minor whale
#

Holy fuck lmao

#

The orb contract

#

Just got hotfixed

obsidian venture
#

LMAO

#

Gg

restive siren
#

Huge

sacred oracle
#

jagex CHOSE to do this on a friday btw

#

what an annoying thing for the devs

#

poor goblin's weekend

obsidian venture
#

It's like 1 or 2 am

#

for them

#

fs in chat

chrome lantern
#

Yeah rip their time

true talon
#

The race is onnnnnnnn

#

i think most people are 4/5 lol

minor whale
#

Genuinely feel bad for the devs
They probably saw a shitload of streamers all saying it was shit content and a buggy mess so someone had to go in at midnight and flip a switch to toggle off duo encounters

#

Which

#

It was

obsidian venture
#

He had a ie take of all time

minor whale
#

Lemme guess he was saying it was fine and people probably just didn't know a mechanic

chrome lantern
#

Surely they will learn from this and actually try to do the content before they release it in the future

obsidian venture
#

Also apparently Widega finished all contracts now

winter hearth
hard axle
# obsidian venture

reminder that sae bae is a pretty subpar player that just has a lot of time and should not be yapping erm

obsidian venture
#

Pretty much

#

Feelsbad for the folks sending for 12+ hrs now

small anvil
#

Wait, could people have brought a partner in and never tried

#

That's hilarious

obsidian venture
#

Down hundreds of ml

true talon
hard axle
#

its 2am erm

small anvil
#

The solution was to just duo it

chrome lantern
#

Goblin thank you for your service

small anvil
#

They told us all along!

hard axle
#

ty lenny, rice, goblins

small anvil
#

Duo endgame boss

true talon
#

Glad all the streamers still stuck on 3/5 sit rats

chrome lantern
#

I had a nice day of continuing to pretend like contracts don't exist

sacred oracle
#

I've been moving all day, but watching over other people was fun

analog crow
#

It was fun seeing streamers crash out

minor whale
#

Probably not fun for Goblin to see why they were crashing out

winter hearth
true talon
#

This is what happens when jagex had to cave an make the contracts duo'able

analog crow
true talon
#

shoulda stuck to their guns, just like the pet contract

minor whale
#

But the 2 meltdowns were pretty funny, even if valid

true talon
#

Caving for the pet contract and caving on duo contracts was a net negative for the game overall.

small anvil
#

Feel bad for other people who banged their head against this wall

sacred oracle
#

i don't actually know what a community manager does, so I choose to believe he floated above it all day

#

serene, detached

#

blissful even

small anvil
#

He's the punching bag for the community

minor whale
#

He was in the trenches looking at all the hate for Jagex and taking the downvotes on Reddit any time he said anything

true talon
small anvil
#

Has to apologize for jagex and be the face of the company

#

And take bullets for things that aren't their personal fault

minor whale
#

Probably watch a lot of streamers calling it a shit update and be the guy who has to tell the team the feedback

sacred oracle
#

sounds awful, let's start a godfundme to buy him a lasagna

winter hearth
small anvil
#

Thankless job DuradelSalute

analog crow
#

A lesser man would have succumbed

flat night
#

the rate increases for contracts feel much better, but yeah, QA was rather disappointing

wet smelt
minor whale
ember token
#

did anyone clip him putting together or using the sigil

#

does it cost runes like the blorva kit

minor whale
#

Yes

#

10k aether

#

Each piece

true talon
#

lol

chrome lantern
#

🤮

true talon
#

thats 30k catalyst as an iron i have less than 10k in 300 kills.

chrome lantern
#

Why is that even a thing

#

It shouldn't be a thing for sanguine torva either

true talon
#

thats crazy lol

ember token
#

lol i was gonna guess aether runes, irons get fucked

minor whale
#

Yeah I'm at 125kc and have not even halfway to 30k aether

wet smelt
true talon
#

Literally gonna take you 1k kills of yama to get the aether catalyst lmao

sacred oracle
#

was the 10k aether thing a joke? i refuse to consult the wiki

chrome lantern
#

I'm only at 5.5k yeah

minor whale
#

That's a lot of grinding aether and then only using them on the armor

chrome lantern
#

Yeah I already felt like I was never going to use aether runes

#

This is just even worse somehow lol

analog crow
#

Lol

austere mulch
analog crow
#

30k aether is steep

sacred oracle
#

I bought 2k aether runes yesterday to save me an entire inventory slot for master clues

winter hearth
sacred oracle
#

I am a powerful gamer

hard axle
#

widega finished?

austere mulch
#

I thought the one contract was bugged?

hard axle
#

nice IE take as always Tass

austere mulch
#

Or “impossible”