game-update

[neon gate]

https://i.imgur.com/qyH7ftZ.png

@winter hearth bug report

it isn't actually 3x

[pliant haven]

Not sure why they randomly decided to make them super common. That wasn’t part of the dev notes yday

[sudden bane]

its worded bad, its 3x from dossiers

its just 3x more common from demons

[neon gate]

"worded bad"

lmfaolmfaolmfaolmfaolmfaolmfaolmfaolmfao

more like "lie"

[upbeat moss]

context makes it pretty easy to tell what it means

LIE

LOL

get a grip

[neon gate]

blog says it drops 3 at a time

[small anvil]

It's the drop rate from dossier

[neon gate]

i got a drop it wasn't 3 at a time

[hard axle]

Your mother drops 3 at a time

[pliant haven]

[upbeat moss]

green = dossier
red = demons

[pliant haven]

Wen compensation

[upbeat moss]

hope this helps

[tender harness]

Please refrain from this talk as it violates rule 3 - oscord mod probably

[hard axle]

[pliant haven]

Jagec scamt me

[green pewter]

You took a risk in a volatile market
There is no compensation

[upbeat moss]

(bloodied blows)

[analog crow]

""rare""

sure buddy

[sudden bane]

you should see the rs3 wiki its almost all 'rare' they dont have exact numbers on a lot of things

[analog crow]

my cc is getting spammed with contract drops now because the GE guide hasn't caught up to the real price

[pliant haven]

So contracts going to 50k each?

[analog crow]

probably

[upbeat moss]

theyll be dirt, yeah

[analog crow]

you can't even stuff your death coffer with them

[pliant haven]

[analog crow]

so useless

[upbeat moss]

inb4 obvious "why even keep them"

[pliant haven]

My bank is full now. Should I just incinerate them? @jagex

[small anvil]

Buy the dip

🙃

[analog crow]

buy more

[pliant haven]

Yama is a shit projec

[upbeat moss]

"the dip"

[pliant haven]

Buy the rug pull

[small anvil]

Average lower!

[analog crow]

At the GE "buying burnt food contracts"

[small anvil]

(I am being sarcastic)

[pliant haven]

Inb4 contracts are bulks

@jagex how do I short

[analog crow]

should have bought put options, unlucky

[upbeat moss]

now can they make white oathplate gm req?

[pliant haven]

[upbeat moss]

now that contracts are dirt cheap

[true talon]

If they dirt cheap then the system only exists to torment ironmen

[upbeat moss]

oh hey

#game-update message

didnt take long

[true talon]

What you mean lol. How’s the contract boss. I have work 😦

Adult problems

[analog crow]

contract boss is nice

[tender harness]

streamers are crashing out

[analog crow]

has anyone beaten it?

[upbeat moss]

theres been a couple

i think

[tender harness]

ive only seen 1/5s

[analog crow]

I was hoping we'd go at least one day of no completions, unlucky

[upbeat moss]

shoutout to wow race to world first sometimes being weeks lmao

(mostly due to dogshit balance, and the fact that some of those raids are completed by those guilds is kinda insane)

[analog crow]

mostly speaks of how much some people have mastered the osrs engine

[upbeat moss]

whens the last time there was something with no completions on day 1?

[analog crow]

no matter what you throw at them they'll crush it

[upbeat moss]

100 agreed

how long did it take for a first cox/tob/toa completion?

oh god

[neon gate]

First cox was suicided in 1h 40 iirc

[ember token]

z*ah

[neon gate]

First toa don't know but can't have been long for a 0 invo

Tob took days

[upbeat moss]

true, 0 invo lame for world first type shit

tob wins again

[pliant haven]

This soulflame horn is absolute trash. Jagex do something

@winter hearth

Devs do something

[upbeat moss]

like

[pliant haven]

Like anything other than diluting more items into the ground

[upbeat moss]

???

block/ignore then i guess

[frail bough]

to be fair, saying its trash and not giving alternatives is exactly zero percent helpful

[upbeat moss]

i wasnt even talking to that guy lol

[true talon]

So no1 beaten contract Yama yet that’s kinda pog

[frail bough]

i know lol

[upbeat moss]

theres been a couple completions

on certain contracts

[true talon]

They can make it work solo and then it’s decent

[upbeat moss]

im sorry you had to read that message

[frail bough]

yeah i think it working solo would be fine as well tbh

[true talon]

Using to always land maul on corp or something. It turns defense reduction weps into 75% spec but then you can use spec pot to get benefits of landing the specs

Kinda good niche tbh

[frail bough]

would agree

[hasty shard]

how lol

breath contract seems free if you aren't an ape

[slender vapor]

Shits hard like ToA and not hard like ToB

[sacred oracle]

how is this useful feedback? what ... is someone supposed to do when he reads it?

[pliant haven]

Be better

[sacred oracle]

you don't even say why it's trash

you're pinging employees to tell them something is trash and not even giving any info on how to fix it

[pliant haven]

Im not being paid to develop RuneScape so no it’s not my job

Make it better

[sacred oracle]

lmao

[frail bough]

😄

[pliant haven]

[sacred oracle]

god the entitlement and the childishness

[hard axle]

[sacred oracle]

this channel is amazing content

[hasty shard]

baguettesmack

[hard axle]

All of you need some baguettes to ur heads

[pliant haven]

I’m here to provide comedy and cynicism

[hard axle]

including me

[upbeat moss]

halfway there

[sacred oracle]

[pliant haven]

Good then I’m doing 50% which is a better job than Jagex did with this update

[upbeat moss]

oof lol

[neon gate]

I assumed there would be some catch to it

It does look pretty free reading it

I just don't have max mage on the alternative account currently

and also don't have any of the forefeits on iron because they are super rare

[hard axle]

it’s been less than 5 hours. Let the people lab out the paths

[slender vapor]

https://i.imgur.com/fFvcSI6.png

The look of a man who just died for the last 3...5 hours losing hundreds of millions in the process

[hard axle]

And then moan if not available

[upbeat moss]

3 hours?

5 and a half

[hasty shard]

the catch is its harder ig

you want to bring vile vigour

[upbeat moss]

seeing his realization about the bloodied blows contract was sad

[analog crow]

The first half of the stream was a money burning stream

At least now the attempts are cheap

[fossil epoch]

what did he realize?

[hard axle]

Nightmare to balance as always. Too expensive and people bitch. Too cheap and it might as well not exist.

[slender vapor]

He was having fun doing melee

[upbeat moss]

he was camping 1hp and meleeing

[slender vapor]

He saw magic worked and his fun went away

[hard axle]

That he needed to touch grass

[upbeat moss]

then magic was good lol

[tender harness]

watch Kirbys stream with severance contract
gnomonkey actually rage quit for a bit

[upbeat moss]

shadow won

[slender vapor]

Gnome actually leaving to touch grass was really funny

[analog crow]

yeah I don't envy jagex here

At least I had a cozy morning in the chasm today and got some pocket change before the buff

[hasty shard]

what is the orb spawning like

[true talon]

F’s we have our first de-iron end game victim due to jagex neglect of end game. Pecanbread11 will no longer be an Ironman so that he can speed run.

[vernal valve]

it's crazy bc this was my call from literally the day awakened orbs were known about

[tender harness]

its 2 hits for every orb
the timing also seems just off on the orbs
and if you manage to even survive the 1 shot Yama just full heals

[fossil epoch]

who

[analog crow]

The judge being on speed is also really funny

[true talon]

You don’t know who pecanbread is lol

[hard axle]

First? You really don’t interact with many endgame folks if that’s the case

[sacred oracle]

less irons is a win

what you talking about

[true talon]

First I heard about since they was in my clan lol

[hard axle]

I can name like 4-5 in my friend groups alone

[fossil epoch]

Not in the slightest

[sacred oracle]

people de-iron all the time, it's a meme that that's the iron endgame

[true talon]

YouTube it

[slender vapor]

"Harder than dt2 awakened but not in a good way" -gnome

[rain fulcrum]

Just delete Ironman mode it was a mistake

[analog crow]

With all due respect to your clannie they're not the first or the last

[sacred oracle]

handshake emoji

[frail bough]

bronzemanmode or bust

how many people do we think play the game as iron to strictly solo everything?

now a days

[hard axle]

People have been de-ironing since cm speeds became popular.

[true talon]

You know mainscape causes majority of the problems with the game right

[sacred oracle]

every single update, irons constantly want to warp it until it benefits them at the expense of mains, and condescend to mains who buy things as if that isn't the original way to play

[hasty shard]

i cannot say shit only having tried the two seemingly easiest ones and not clearing p3 but mann idk

[rain fulcrum]

Ok bro

[hasty shard]

i think we really need a closed loop for the next end-game update

stop tagging on earlygame avenues to the content
pleae

[true talon]

Bots, rwt, economy issues, gp/h loaded bosses and content. All causes by mains.

[analog crow]

trueeee

[hard axle]

As I’ve already told you in dms, irons RWT just as much via services

[rain fulcrum]

Blaming every main for rwt is some real neckbearding

[hard axle]

Don’t act like irons are innocent

[frail bough]

idk why this even has to be a conversation lol

[frail bough]

exactly this

[analog crow]

also yeahs irons rwt all the time

okay maybe not all the time

[hard axle]

there’s bad portions in both community

[true talon]

Irons can’t trade so sounds like services are the problem

[hasty shard]

blame boaty for inventing ironman

[hard axle]

they moan about drops not catering to them

And then crash it to nonexistence

Torstols?

[analog crow]

Bring back ultimate main mode from rsc

[sacred oracle]

i wouldn't care about irons if they didn't keep skewing game updates then complaining about it endlessly

i don't really care how they play the game

i just wish they'd shut up about it for once

[true talon]

Toa did they to seeds lol but that’s jagex fault. No1 asked seeds to be in toa.

[tender harness]

mox actually spitting good takes

[hard axle]

I can’t wait for lily of the sands to gatekeep overloads from irons tbh

[hasty shard]

nor coconut milk

or cactus spines

[rain fulcrum]

Iron should just not be a factor for balancing just like it was not a factor for balancing everything before 07

[true talon]

Same lmao

[hasty shard]

remember those being like profitable to get from their actual sources ?

[lofty sinew]

got 2k of those on iron, im good

[hard axle]

2k is 1.5k overloads

[true talon]

Hasn’t been a factor at all or else we wouldn’t have awakened orbs and contracts

[minor whale]

Half the reason supplies and pvm drops are the way they are is irons not wanting to have to slowly skill for them
Mains don't give a shit about sourcing our items we just buy them

[rain fulcrum]

Bro the new bis armor literally drops in chunks

[pliant haven]

Why do we appeal to iron men who decided on their own to take part in a special way to play the game

[true talon]

Only system two systems exist to cater to irons and that’s scar ess and ingot pathways

[hard axle]

I use more than 1.5k divines doing a few boss hunts

[rain fulcrum]

So that irons can be happy

[minor whale]

All dry protection mechanics are explicitly for irons

[hard axle]

Bro

[pliant haven]

Fuk ironmen

[true talon]

Wrong it’s for cloggers just as much as irons

[hard axle]

You literally left out path breakdown

oathplate

[upbeat moss]

cloggers are worse than irons

[hard axle]

^

[sacred oracle]

nah it's not for cloggers

[hasty shard]

clogging

smh

[rain fulcrum]

Well we shouldn't give a single shit about cloggers either for balance

[sacred oracle]

cloggers don't care

and a lot of the avenues of dry protection don't actually give you clog

they just let you make or otherwise get an item

[hard axle]

oathplate breakdown doesn’t aid cloggers

[minor whale]

Cloggers are also single digit % of the game, not ~20% like irons

Also yeah that doesn't go on your clog when you make it

What the fuck are we saying brk

[rain fulcrum]

Probably less than that

[true talon]

Well then we shouldn’t give a shit how much your items are worth due to bots farming the content lol

[upbeat moss]

damn yall are making me want to abandon my ironman lmfaoooo

[neon gate]

thats actually a disaster really

[upbeat moss]

got me all riled up against myself

[hasty shard]

i may be getting confused with dupe protection

[hard axle]

Ofc we should because it fucking breaks the rules??

[true talon]

Sounds like a problem for mains and not me

[hard axle]

You’re advocating for self botting

[sacred oracle]

also why should real players get less value out of what they earn in game because other people are cheating

[true talon]

No all botting is bad

[hard axle]

god you’re inconsistent as shit

[true talon]

But if there was no rwt then there be no bots

[sacred oracle]

i don't even know what you're saying at this point man

[hard axle]

Irons fucking bot all the time for boring skills lmao

[sacred oracle]

you're like iron ren

[hard axle]

Reddit literally snapshots dudes broken ardy course bots all the time

[true talon]

Yea and they should be banned.

[hard axle]

Good shit, finally said something agreeable

[tender harness]

Irons are saints who do nothing wrong

[upbeat moss]

ban irons

[tender harness]

mega scales

[true talon]

It looked like they did a great job from the bot busting stream

Was hardly any end game bots

[small anvil]

lol "we didnt ban any end game bots so they dont exist"

🙃

[tough nacelle]

Reality is ironman falls apart late game and can't be catered to other than remove oathplate armour drops and instead drop a plate

[small anvil]

bot busting stream is entirely performative too

[true talon]

Ya obviously they slipped though the cracks lll

[tough nacelle]

2 for body legs 1 for head

[true talon]

Iron end game is self torture

[analog crow]

It was performative but it was still fun

[small anvil]

i didnt watch

[tough nacelle]

You can't balance a normal person's playtime with endgame iron drops

[small anvil]

but like

[true talon]

Mid and early are so good

[tough nacelle]

Legitimately impossible

[analog crow]

The bot busting stats they published was nice though

[tough nacelle]

Yeah, peak osrs imo

[small anvil]

if they can just decide to go around rounding up bots

[hasty shard]

honestly yeah

[small anvil]

why not do it not on stream all the time

🤔

[tough nacelle]

But they gotta not cater to irons for late game bossing or we'll continue to get rough updates

[hasty shard]

why is it cranked so hard consistency wise we do not need oathplate split into 2520 shards lol

[analog crow]

Like this stuff is very nice to see

[tough nacelle]

I think they're trying to make items we can use instantly so they feel good to get unlike dt2

[analog crow]

Good transparency

[small anvil]

shards are that way cuz its contribution split

[true talon]

They can just add untradeable systems. Shards woulda worked fine if they were untradeable

[tough nacelle]

Should just be a singular plate drop

[minor whale]

The bot busting streams are a snapshot of bots that would have been just normally banned, they do it for fun and because it's one of the most requested streams every time the OSRS channel goes live

[tough nacelle]

Craft that plate into armour

[last onyx]

how are they catering to irons? it takes a million hours just to get the slayer for a trident

[rain fulcrum]

We don't need dry protection

Just give us a normal drop table

[hasty shard]

oh right i wonder if they'll make flares give contribution!!

surely

[small anvil]

shards would be fine if it wasnt tradeable

[hasty shard]

agreed

[tough nacelle]

Lol if you think 87 slayer is the endgame iron nonsense I'm talking about

[analog crow]

What is a "normal" drop table? Nex? Phosani? Vork? Vard?

[rain fulcrum]

Vard is not normal

The rest are

[minor whale]

Not dry protection

[hasty shard]

yama does feel tuned a bit too high for common high value drop

[tacit pendant]

The current system would be fine if it accounted for shards a little better.

[tough nacelle]

Cox, tob, and yeah vard too

[minor whale]

Dry protection is just silly shit added for irons

[last onyx]

i use to think it was 87 but it might be 78

[hasty shard]

extend to pre buff contract drops from demons too

[small anvil]

i'd rather have things like halberd pieces

[minor whale]

Who are afraid of going dry for Bowfa except at other content

[hasty shard]

why are we letting shitter accounts kill lesser demons for a 5m drop again

[tough nacelle]

Arraxor

[small anvil]

it's visible dry protection

and you dont lose an entire vestige to double death

[small oyster]

I imagine if shards weren't tradable then mains would complain that they feel they have to go back until they can craft 1 full piece

[small anvil]

🙃

[steel aspen]

Can we talk about the game update in the game update chat, instead of main / ironman mode hate?

[hasty shard]

and you dont get actual drops at dt2 to make up for it

[tough nacelle]

It's about the update

[hasty shard]

maybe you do at whisperer ig

[tough nacelle]

The contract system

[hasty shard]

cause whisperer has like normal drops

[tough nacelle]

Dropping guaranteed rewards is silly

[hard axle]

Contracts and Orbs will honestly never be balanced because of its consumption of said resources

[tough nacelle]

Should just be an unlock

[hard axle]

It will always be pissing someone off or everyone off

[tough nacelle]

And cosmetic only

[rain fulcrum]

I don't mind orbs since they drop from the content

Instead of lesser demons

[tough nacelle]

Orbs are crap because irons can't meaningfully engage with the content, and mains can't afford to

Orbs are beyond horrid

[hasty shard]

reminder that its actually fine because if you don't do the content, the issue doesnt exist anymore apparently
just unlearn object permanence

[rain fulcrum]

Wdym mains can't afford to?

Plenty of mains have blorva

[hard axle]

If it’s an unlock, there’s a justification to make it actually increase stats

Like how infernal cape isn’t a cosmetic

[hasty shard]

you can afford to get blorva reasonably, but nobody can really afford to just kill them for the sake of it/ pethunting

[tough nacelle]

Most mains don't have the gp to afford to try it

[hard axle]

I wish Blood Torva had some cool effect

[rain fulcrum]

Too bad then

[sacred oracle]

most mains also don't have the skill to do it

[rain fulcrum]

Go get some money

[hasty shard]

khazard using over 2b just on orbs 😭

[tough nacelle]

I could see that

[sacred oracle]

i'm not seeing the problem

[tough nacelle]

I think my main con with difficult content is a price tag on attempts

[sacred oracle]

it's a cosmetic that costs a couple hundred million to get on avg, would you say? i don't know what average is these days

i think it's still a lot cheaper than a crystal crown

[tough nacelle]

Like I wish colo was 0 rewards until 1 completion but no death fee

[hasty shard]

im only like fully realising this fallacy with orbs/contracts today lol
why in the fuck do people say orbs add prestige as if actually killing the fucking boss isnt 100% of that prestige

[tough nacelle]

Until you beat it once

[last onyx]

why are contracts in the game?

[slender vapor]

Oh no! 20 extra kills!!!

[tough nacelle]

Gating difficult content behind a gp sink is silly

[minor whale]

I mean
20 extra kills for a craftable Oathplate isn't a big deal at all lmao

Oh fuck 2 more hours

[hasty shard]

because path of exile
hope this helps

[fossil epoch]

Atleast its only irons who get affected

[sacred oracle]

i think it's a combination of costing money and needing skill that makes it prestigious

but prestige is really up to the person

[slender vapor]

Yeah, fuck irons

[rain fulcrum]

The purpose of orbs is mostly just a wealth equalizer

[sacred oracle]

like, i think a 3a pick is prestigious, but some people are like eww all he needed was 14b gp

[rain fulcrum]

I thought it was fine when it came from dt2 bosses itself

[hasty shard]

downvoting this guy for saying 0.80 and not 0.8 btw

[last onyx]

i never saw what that game is, having depth is one thing but adding complex things like contracts only makes the game harder to learn

[sacred oracle]

if you're "learning" the game, you aren't doing yama

it's not a concern

[tough nacelle]

But they don't equalize wealth

[plush gull]

false

makes no sense

[fossil epoch]

The real problem is actually all his decimal points are with 3 numbers after the dot, so it should be 0.800

[hasty shard]

8% of total drop value with highballing btw

[tough nacelle]

They're not expensive enough to add much gp for kc

[hasty shard]

🥹

so impactful

[tough nacelle]

But too expensive for improving at the game

[rain fulcrum]

They transfer wealth from rich ppl with nothing better to do to midgame players without adding gp inflation or dumping Skilling supplies

[sacred oracle]

how many significant digits to we need to discuss osrs

i say 6

[rain fulcrum]

They were 3m per at release

[tough nacelle]

And quickly hit 1m

[rain fulcrum]

Which adds like 2m/hr to the bosses

Not that quick

[sacred oracle]

and yeah, what como said

[tough nacelle]

Now they're what? 400kk?

500?

[analog crow]

gnome just did the sigil contract

[hard axle]

Yup

[tough nacelle]

People make more the better they get at the game

[sacred oracle]

i see people hear talk about the prohibitive cost of attempts, but i've just never seen someone go for blorva and really complain that much about it

[tough nacelle]

And saying hey you can't do this cool boss

[sacred oracle]

they complain about it the same way i complain about being triple rate for a unique at yama

[tough nacelle]

Because going for it implies you have enough gp to blow through it

Say you have 1 mega rare

[hard axle]

I hit 20-21 kph in a duo

so it’s even less

[tough nacelle]

Are you gonna dump all your gp to ATTEMPT a boss with no reward?

[sacred oracle]

by the time you're at the point to consider blorva, you almost certainly have the gp to blow on blorva

and the expense is directly related to your skill

[tough nacelle]

The annoying part is you can't just do the content

[sacred oracle]

better you are, the less it costs

[hasty shard]

honestly no

[tough nacelle]

Lol not even

[hasty shard]

reason being torva is like a last purchase

[sacred oracle]

the gatekeeping is part of the prestige, that's kinda the point

[tough nacelle]

I don't even have close to the gp for the boss

[hasty shard]

im 100% getting kit before torva and im a shitter

[tough nacelle]

But can do the other difficult content in the game

[tacit pendant]

Torva being expensive is also a huge reason. Why do it at all until u have the item it goes on

[analog crow]

the contracts are dirt cheap now don't worry

[hard axle]

I used to be pro-orbs, but now I’m definitely against it cuz 1. Pet rates don’t get increase 2. Uniques rates increase don’t offset the increased time 3. It’s basically dead content after Torva

[sacred oracle]

i was assuming you wouldn't go for the torva kit until you could afford torva

it made sense at the time

[tough nacelle]

Eh it's not about the kit

It's about fun imo

Fun is fun

[hard axle]

after colosseum, I firmly believe content shouldn’t be 1nd

[tough nacelle]

Shouldn't be punished for learning

[rain fulcrum]

the reddit ppl complaining about orbs are not good enough to kill the boss anyway

[sacred oracle]

so you're complaining that the cosmetic for an expensive piece of armor isn't accessible to people who are too poor to afford the armor?

i don't think i'm on board

[plush gull]

same

[tough nacelle]

1nd?

[hasty shard]

wonderful strawman as if me and rat and others are 1500 shitters wow

[hard axle]

One-and-done

[minor whale]

It's a weird situation now with contracts
If the cosmetic contracts are dirt cheap, why even have them be consumed at all
Is 100k/contract really gonna be worth anyone doing except for it being obnoxious that they take up an inventory slot to do?

[tough nacelle]

My issue is the ability to play the content

[hasty shard]

wonderful conversation when tf do i go mox mode and just flame people 😭

[tough nacelle]

Is gated behind price tag

Like say to enter raids 4

[hasty shard]

plinx slap me later or something preempt it

[tough nacelle]

Is 1m

You shouldn't make fun good content

[hard axle]

Hanging myself to leviathan melee orb when I get home

[tough nacelle]

Then say actually, you can't even try it to get better

[plush gull]

imagine if toa costed 1m for every 10 invo you do

so you can only do 0 invo entry mode for free, and 400 toa costs 40m to attempt every time

wont that be fun

[minor whale]

That's a bit of an over exaggeration of the issue

[tough nacelle]

Then to mitigate that we have this contract system

[sacred oracle]

things are gated by quests, gear, and having required stats to access all the time. i don't mind them and i don't mind this.

ymmv

[tough nacelle]

Which seems silly

[sacred oracle]

certainly, other people do appear to agree with you

[tough nacelle]

A quest is 10-20h from scratch at MAX

[minor whale]

Locking bosses behind some sort of ticket isn't inherently bad but literally all you get for it is cosmetics and that sucks ass

[tough nacelle]

This is billions

Of gp

[sacred oracle]

yeah, it's annoying the only reason to do woke boss at all is the cosmetic

at least an improved pet rate would be something

[hasty shard]

locking bosses behind some sort of ticket isn't inherently bad which is why obor/bryo are getting checked out in the sweep up yeah

[plush gull]

tbh at this point im more gatekept by the bonfire update than orbs

im ready to high alch my blorva kit now but i dont have the firemaking req

jagex cmon

[sacred oracle]

if they don't want to reward with gp, could at least have done that

[tacit pendant]

Nobody is spending billions on orbs or contracts lmfao

[tough nacelle]

For orbs? That's not unreasonable near release

[small anvil]

port spent billions on orbs

[hasty shard]

its technically break even/sliiightly better for i believe wisp/duke currently

[sacred oracle]

i do not think many people are spending billions on orbs for blorva

[hasty shard]

but you know

[tough nacelle]

Contracts probably not

[lament peak]

Contract Yama not being weak to demonbane weapons assures that the content can only be done by players in near bis 😭

[analog crow]

Real why are you outrage baiting yourself

[hasty shard]

800k entry ticket

[tough nacelle]

See that's not an issue to be

Gear check

Isn't the same as cost to attempt

[sacred oracle]

isn't it tho

what's the difference

[tough nacelle]

Cost to attempt says you lose money for TRYINF

[sacred oracle]

gear check means you spend billions on bis or whatever right

why is one different from the other to you

[tough nacelle]

Gear check says this will be really hard to do unless you have gear

[plush gull]

what are people even talking about anymore

[tough nacelle]

One slows progression,

One encourages progression

[hasty shard]

they really want you to shadow camp the contracts i swear

[sacred oracle]

what part is slowing progression?

[tough nacelle]

Orbs and contracts encourage you to say, no I won't try this because it'll waste my gp to learn now

When I need to upgrade my gear

[plush gull]

gear is temporary, fun memories are forever!

[sacred oracle]

from that point of view, spending money on melee upgrades slows your progression for doing ranged bosses

[tough nacelle]

If you send it and say wow this is really cool, but I think x or Y gear would make it easier

You can sell it if you want, or use it elsewhere

Burning gp to try is not the same as improving your gear

Contacts either need to be so common they shouldn't exist

Or rare enough to be cost prohibitive

[plush gull]

people call my objective facts trolling but not this disingenuous nonsense fml

[sacred oracle]

wouldn't being so rare they cost even more just make the problem you see worse?

[plush gull]

but tbh idk what either of you are talking about

[sacred oracle]

then why are you commenting on it, ren

[tough nacelle]

I'm saying contracts shouldn't exist

[plush gull]

i agree with u

why is tramayne trolling u

[tough nacelle]

Because they don't encourage players to try to get better at the game

Whereas gear checks DO encourage you to improve at the game/upgrade your character

[lament peak]

Im not in the cool kids club of having been spooned a mega rare so I'm unable to participate, kinda shitty 🤷‍♀️ demonbane weapons are already only useful in a few places...now some demons are immune...cool

[tacit pendant]

Rendi spent billions on his "content" he wanted to do. Pulling extreme cases from top 0.01% aint valid

[vernal valve]

you do know you need awakened for GM right

[chrome lantern]

I feel like the “no demonbane” was also paired with “do more damage” extremely intentionally

[plush gull]

why are you so obsessed with cosmetics tramayne

[sacred oracle]

why are you talking to me

please stop

[fossil epoch]

Worst part of today, was about 10min before i finished A kingdom divided on the alt, jagex fixed the droprate on contracts

[sacred oracle]

rip flippers

[analog crow]

F

Thank you merchers for your generous donations

[hasty shard]

i did a greater demon task just before the change

[tacit pendant]

We gonna wait til oath crashes again and buy it up

[hasty shard]

i was trying to recoup contract losses

[sacred oracle]

surely it can't crash more

oh wait it's time to check is we've achieved crisscross

[analog crow]

surely...

[tacit pendant]

It went up 50mil today

[jagged marsh]

Synapse crash

[sacred oracle]

oath has gone up 40m, it's all over

[tacit pendant]

It will go down to 250 by wednesday

[upbeat moss]

100 by friday

[sacred oracle]

now is a good time for me to finally choose to get the drop

[chrome lantern]

That picture looks like a Justi set to me xd (crazy they didn’t change that yet)

[analog crow]

jagex saved the market?!

[tacit pendant]

100 extreme, 250 likely to actually happen imo

[sacred oracle]

why am i here turbochatting, i'm supposed to be moving today

goodbye forever

[upbeat moss]

gnomonkey crashing out (as the kids say) over bloodied blows

[plush gull]

its cheap now why doesnt he just 1 hp dh it for fun?

[tacit pendant]

Byebye gl moving its nice out today

[slender vapor]

Bloodiest blow is a rough job

[small anvil]

goodbye mox, when you return you shall be mox 5.0

[hasty shard]

i will name my new parrot after you

[restive siren]

somewhat reasonable

but banger crashout

[upbeat moss]

yeah for sure

[neon gate]

vod

[upbeat moss]

10/10 for a viewer

[upbeat moss]

just rewind his yt stream a couple minutes

(based for streaming on youtube so rewind is possible)

[neon gate]

i turned in live 🤣

he still goin

[analog crow]

lmfao the holy water theory

[neon gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mv5QI7QWu4

[obsidian venture]

Contract fights just seem pretty bad

[neon gate]

I was right

all along

[slender vapor]

You don't like invocation level 600 yama?

[obsidian venture]

[slender vapor]

Gnome looks like he's 30 seconds from crying

[upbeat moss]

pls be holy water

[obsidian venture]

@sacred oracle dunno how many blorva folks you talk too, but the ones who did it legit for the most part disliked the system as it was for a cosmetic. The ability to send it consistently after is limited

@minor whale I know you said everyone opinion should count, but tbh, it should be limited if you haven’t attempted or completed said content, in osrs at least

[spiral storm]

Slippery slope when more and more content is geared toward elite pvmers

[obsidian venture]

Just makes it a weird discussion when folks are speaking on behalf of someone else’s pov

[obsidian venture]

This will never happen mate dw

[plush gull]

i have multiple awakened vard kc on leagues including perfect awakened axe enthusiast attempts, im an expert

[obsidian venture]

They can’t even get content correct for endgame pvm

[plush gull]

at least half an expert

[obsidian venture]

So I doubt that would happen

Maybe delve might have a chance

[unreal plover]

leagues awakened vard is at least 10% as hard as regular vard on main game

[upbeat moss]

what if the opinion is really good though

[obsidian venture]

If it’s based on something actual sure

But half these discussions here are from folks who aren’t impacted from these decisions

[plush gull]

@tacit pendant bad clown emoji, whats ur awakened vard kc on any gamemode

less than me huh?

[sacred oracle]

The only reason it's weird is you imo , I'm not here vetting people to make sure they are allowed to have opinions

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obsidian venture]

Folks can have opinions, just limit it if you genuinely don’t understand what you’re talking about

[unreal plover]

i am impacted and i can say the fights are needlessly long

[spiral storm]

It's content they'll eventually get to lol

[unreal plover]

they did not need to increase his hp and stats

because you already have lower dps

[obsidian venture]

Maybe but most do not

[obsidian venture]

They really didn’t

Not a healthy approach

But did the same thing

👍

[unreal plover]

i dont see how toa being rewarding is related

[upbeat moss]

dont worry, yama still in beta

[obsidian venture]

The latter part

[upbeat moss]

shits gonna be so good in a month when hes done

[obsidian venture]

High lvl toa is just high hp and def

[unreal plover]

oh if u mean jagex never learning from their mistakes

yeah

[small anvil]

i think goblin was talking about rewards there sadly

[obsidian venture]

Ooo missed the blog

[small anvil]

rather than the scaling

[obsidian venture]

In the first part yes

[tacit pendant]

Plenty of awakened in leagues as well. Last time vard was in a league for me was 2 years ago, awakened was auto win lmfao

[obsidian venture]

2nd part was moreso in regards to where it sits

Which is a long encounter

[vernal valve]

i'm genuinely immensely curious as to what the dev process looked like for Yama tbh

[tacit pendant]

Doubling down on "i did it in leagues" im an expert is insane

[plush gull]

so u didnt do it in raging echoes, u did it easier mode than me

[unreal plover]

i genuinely dont think this was playtested

by more than 1 person

if being generous

[obsidian venture]

Doing anything in leagues doesn’t mean shit so idk why this is even a discussion

[unreal plover]

and that person only made sure its beatable in theory

[obsidian venture]

Congratulations on Mickey Mouse game mode

[tacit pendant]

Clown emoji warranted

[obsidian venture]

Mod nox didn’t even play it

[unreal plover]

yeah ik

[obsidian venture]

Doomed

[tender harness]

you asked and you received clown have good day

[unreal plover]

is there even any other jmod thats on a similar skill level

because i dont think the play testers got to test contracts either

[obsidian venture]

Lykos?

He’s in the same vein

[minor whale]

I wouldn't be surprised if bloodied blows is legitimately a bugged contract
Every single streamer getting hella frustrated trying it

[plush gull]

i thought it was fun

[obsidian venture]

At least when I chatted with them they had similar interest in speeds

[unreal plover]

i thought acquisition contracts were bugged on release

[obsidian venture]

In regards to the inferno

[slender vapor]

Bloody blows job is gatekeeping streamers

[obsidian venture]

Would edit further

[slender vapor]

But yeah, it's looking bugged

[unreal plover]

but they literally forgot to put stuff in the contracts description

amazing qa

[upbeat moss]

the description was. Think they were supposed to mention demonbane not working there

[tender harness]

bloody blows? severance doers in shambles

[obsidian venture]

Didn’t gnome complete this

[unreal plover]

yes thats what im saying

[tender harness]

thats the one he rage quit on I thought

[slender vapor]

He rage quit, he completed the crush one

[vernal valve]

no he crashed out on it

[obsidian venture]

O

[upbeat moss]

twice

[unreal plover]

i mean that contract does genuinely seem bugged

[plush gull]

he should just keep 1 hp DHing instead of crying about mage :/

[minor whale]

Orbs in p3 not being guaranteed to hit, nor max on, with any weapon
While spawning every 2 attacks
And they heal Yama for 400hp
Can't guarantee you kill even a single orb

Ren holy fuck

Do you ever have anything to add that's not useless

[unreal plover]

if we get confirmation that it is bugged then we can safely assume contracts actually werent playtested

[tacit pendant]

The crush one being "scythe but in a different shirt" is funny

[obsidian venture]

Idt it’s even worth sending till next week ngl

[minor whale]

Agreed

[modest estuary]

has anyone completed bloodied contract yet

[minor whale]

Nope

[hasty shard]

lol

[modest estuary]

this rem guy hasnt done it?

[minor whale]

It's either bugged or something is just being overlooked

[hasty shard]

i saw they were red when I did it, does melee not max?

[obsidian venture]

He’s working on 1hp dh tech

[plush gull]

i sent 5 attempts and didnt get past p1

[obsidian venture]

Or something

Lmaooooo

[modest estuary]

🤡

gl good sir

[unreal plover]

i really dont see what we could be overlooking

[hasty shard]

that or theres some tech to shield from red flares specifically

[lament peak]

So is this content is for like 1 guy (port khazard, probably) to print oathplate all day while everyone else just sells the contracts

[vernal valve]

there is a non-zero possibility that it's bugged and doesn't get fixed until monday and that would be the funniest shit in the world

[slender vapor]

Ren has 0 yama kc btw

[minor whale]

Nope, nothing actually seems to max hit but everyone I've watched has tried like everything they can think of

[hasty shard]

atlatl spec

[obsidian venture]

No one has it completed so not even for Port or Noobtype

[hasty shard]

clears burn innit

[unreal plover]

ive gotten to p3 sensory a couple times, and almost got to p3 divine severance once

[hasty shard]

wait fk no

[unreal plover]

but then ge limit

and i just cba anymore

[winter hearth]

fwiw I was referencing the purple chance here, nothing else

[vernal valve]

the forbidden VW spec tech.......

[obsidian venture]

Appreciate the clarification then

[unreal plover]

can we get clarification if bloodied blows is bugged too?

[plush gull]

why dont they just tick eat the void flares and outdps them?

[upbeat moss]

kinda hoping for a "no" response

[plush gull]

thats what i was trying to do

[minor whale]

You can't

[hasty shard]

cause you cant lol

[minor whale]

They heal him 400 each

[hasty shard]

full heals yama

[modest estuary]

if u hit the tickeat without dying ud see boss full heal

[plush gull]

bruh even with their gear and the max hit mechanic they cant outdps the heal?

[obsidian venture]

Is bloodied the medic one

[plush gull]

ik i did

[unreal plover]

no

[minor whale]

Bloodied is low HP one

[unreal plover]

divine severance is the medic one

[plush gull]

5 DH hits is more than 400

[obsidian venture]

Ok well for the medic one, took noob 4 min to get the hp to 88%

[minor whale]

But he still chips

[plush gull]

bruh someone give me 1000 bloodied blows contracts ill do it myself

[unreal plover]

and only reason divine severance is hard is because theres some weird special attack cycle with the void flares

[obsidian venture]

It’s 2 hits into 2 min of killing flares

[analog crow]

bet you guys are belly laughing at streamers crashing out rn

[obsidian venture]

Great concept

[winter hearth]

Not at all, mostly a little deflated

[hasty shard]

mfw cant use demonbane

[analog crow]

Sorry to hear that!

[winter hearth]

Keen to keep watching over the weekend though and see if people really get cooking, just been a long/tough week!

[obsidian venture]

Noon almost got another one

[analog crow]

Enjoy your weekend king! You deserve it!

[obsidian venture]

Autocorrect smh

[hasty shard]

i assuuume you dont actually need to kill every orb assuming you proc sigils properly but if it continues into p3 lol

[modest estuary]

ye will be interesting to see what people cook up

[unreal plover]

yeah ideally you tank an orb with the glyph when you can

but theres some weird attack pattern

that might be random

[hasty shard]

fwiw i am very happy the contracts are harder by default lol

[unreal plover]

where sometimes you just run out of glyphs

[hasty shard]

the special cycle is so much nicer

[unreal plover]

or yama does the void flare special twice with little downtime

[hasty shard]

yeah you get fucked on fire sigil start iirc if orbs spawn on second special

[winter hearth]

Appreciate that, just so much we should have done better and a lot that we got wrong, think the core of the release was still really solid but has sorta been overshadowed a lil. Lots to learn!

[lament peak]

Contracts could have been difficult without disabling demonbane weapons

[analog crow]

Designing for the 0.1% top of the playerbase can't be easy.

[hasty shard]

it does sound like disabling demonbane buffs has made some of these way harder than intended, like for severance

[small anvil]

felt like jagex was locked into releasing on x date by the advertising and wasnt able to course correct ahead of time b/c of it

and then panic made changes on contract drop rates

[unreal plover]

severance does have demonbane weps enabled

[hasty shard]

oh

i swore it was just off for all of them now lol

[analog crow]

FWIW I think it's nice to see the big dogs struggling for once and not steamrolling the content on day 1

[plush gull]

so are contracts gonna get nerfed because streamers are crying because they cant just do fun self imposed harder mode because they cant get enough contracts...?

[hasty shard]

uhh do the orbs got more hp cause you should be able to sang -> purging spec orbs to save time otherwise p1/2

[winter hearth]

idk if it's a struggle in a fun way though, tough to ascertain - will see where folks get to other the weekend

[unreal plover]

the bosses are def overtuned in stats a bit right now

probably everyone will agree

[hasty shard]

personal two cents, in comparison to awakened bosses, I can actually eat up at something like vard. I don't feel like i can with contracts

[plush gull]

making the fights easier would be so backwards compared to just letting people attempt the fights as much as necessary

[obsidian venture]

And hp

[small anvil]

hp and defense is just such a bad lever for increasing "difficulty"

it makes fights longer, not more difficult

[obsidian venture]

Vard you’re getting cleaved with the axe, but if you skip axe you can double or triple eat

[hasty shard]

getting slapped a 78 to shadow walls is bleh

[minor whale]

I'm all for harder mechanics
But the prevalence of doubling or tripling their hp, defense, and healing is just so not fun anymore

[small anvil]

it raises the bar for execution

[unreal plover]

like the divine severance one did not need the hp increase at all since youre spending most of your dps dealing with the orbs anyways

[plush gull]

make the fights harder, double HP, make them required for GM

and make them doable as much as you need to

[vernal valve]

Probably. I mean, 7 unique contract fights on top of the baseline fight seems like a lot.

[obsidian venture]

It’s dull and boring

[small anvil]

but it isnt a FUN type of difficulty

[hasty shard]

esp. when they knock off your prayer and can also stack

[analog crow]

Gnome said he'd prefer a death by a thousand cuts rather than getting one shot

[hasty shard]

granted i also just kinda dont like them in the normal fight they come in during meteor and you just cant really move away

[vernal valve]

yeah the attempts on streams are genuinely painful to watch sometimes lmao

gnome just reading chat bc he's getting bored mid fight 😭

[hasty shard]

ok granted gnome was trying to do 1hp attempts 😭

[obsidian venture]

Can’t believe I had to tune into gnome

[lament peak]

Some of the contracts should be easier imo. Like keep the difficulty for cosmetics but contracts could have been like a clue scroll for the average player. A slightly more challenging fight with better rewards that drops infrequently
Not gated to the .1%

[vernal valve]

I don't even mean that, I just mean how much they drag

[hasty shard]

same

[vernal valve]

that was mad funny for different reasons

[plush gull]

make contract fights harder.

[hasty shard]

honestly i felt the drag too but then i realised i forgot to click heart 😭

[minor whale]

Yeah one shots that are uncommon and happen with ways to avoid by good play are fine
But when the whole fight is just oops you messed up instead of continuing and learning while finding somewhere to eat up and still maintain the fight, you're just dead, it's genuinely not even enjoyable to watch lmao

[plush gull]

this is making me want to do contracts, buy limit wore off and i got merched on 2, lets goo

[minor whale]

I'm not even having a fun time watching streamers trying to do it they all seem so bored lmao

[analog crow]

gnome beat forfeit breah

[obsidian venture]

It’s just bad design

[upbeat moss]

2/5 now

[obsidian venture]

So did noob

They’re both pacing

[upbeat moss]

ye

[hasty shard]

ye i said it earlier but you have to super int to get one shotted at awakeneds

[unreal plover]

glyph and forfeit breath seem to be the 2 easiets ones

but imo divine severance is also easy

[hasty shard]

off pray vard axe, fail duke eye/wisp pillars, levi chomp

[unreal plover]

just didnt get enough time to figure out the special cycles

u cant really compare duke

[upbeat moss]

from my perspective (giant fucking noob, just enjoying watching for now)
it does suck to see these guys look/feel so bummed rn

[hasty shard]

im pretty sure missing the shadow wall skip during enrage will just hit you for 150 though lmao

[unreal plover]

its a one mechanic at a time almost

also vard imo is just in a different category completely

bc that entire boss is so well designed

[hasty shard]

mfw they release actually hard content

/s

[upbeat moss]

its different

i have 0kc but i think they should make it harder

[unreal plover]

yeah when awakened bosses came out the consensus was way different than what it is now

and people were stuck at levi and vard for a long time too

[restive siren]

fwiw even though there is a very loud minority complaining a lot, there are thousands of lurkers enjoying watching those gamers getting a real challenge. if there are improvements to the system nobody will remember any of this in a month 🤷‍♂️ dont let yourselves get too down on this

[unreal plover]

its not just complaining because hard

[hasty shard]

woke vard kiiinda feels back cause of the constant tick loss imo

[modest estuary]

idk when awakeneds came out i ran in and died a bunch and just felt like i was shit and shoulda played better these feel like i didnt press defensive spell for 13th time in a row so i get 1shot

[hasty shard]

8t cycle for 5t bis is ehh

like the fights still awesome but still

[obsidian venture]

Loud minority yet they designed this content for em

[hasty shard]

id genuinely just rather do awakened whisperer over the normal version just so i dont go braindead

[obsidian venture]

Rather fight awakened vard but orbs exist

🤭

[shadow fiber]

I do think a multi day race is certaining appealing from a viewers perspective, but it'll be interesting to see how the streamers feel about it in retrospect

[plush gull]

bruh why dont they make me regen spec on dying

[obsidian venture]

This is fine yeah. Kinda takes it back to infernos release

[plush gull]

annoying boss

[obsidian venture]

However the fights aren’t scaled properly

Stuff like the medic contract is just aids for no reason

[slender vapor]

The hp seems scaled to duo

Even in the solo contracts

[chrome lantern]

Unless you used 0 other supplies regening spec on death wouldn’t even help you

[obsidian venture]

Like there is a stark difference between this and awakeneds

Where the awakened were quite literally skill issue

This is orbs blast you to kingdom come for 0 issue

Ah so you chose to dps the boss over killing orbs for the 100th time

Bad choice!

[plush gull]

im too bad for this fight with 0 yama kc

i wanna do vard instead

where bonfire update

[hasty shard]

wheres the contract with all of these mechanics in one fight btw

unbound yama where

[slender vapor]

Ultra instinct yama

[obsidian venture]

I also did awakeneds when orbs were up and didn’t send the reg boss to practice (kinda dumb on my part), yet you could learn and pick up things while you sent attempts

[rain fulcrum]

Nah man clearly the content is designed for the viewers not the player!!!

Dumbest take I've seen today

[plush gull]

who is this content even designed for

its just weird as heck all around

[tender harness]

you get to it

[rain fulcrum]

It's so that we can see gnome monkey crash out on stream

[obsidian venture]

Actually living under a rock moment folks piping up

[modest estuary]

i feel like its rly close to good the contracts r just maybe a bit overtuned in terms of how long they take to kill

[plush gull]

like someone who wants to do demons in chasm? which is apparently no one?

[small anvil]

honestly, that might make genuine business sense, as awful as it is for the people doing the content

[restive siren]

thanks for the compliment but i feel like i dont quite get that trophy

[upbeat moss]

sooo.... the viewers?

[rain fulcrum]

How is the oath shard contract

[plush gull]

i dont need to watch gnomonkey crash out i already watched him do echo sol and speedrun budget inferno like a day before me when i was doing it

[tender harness]

watching kirby do the severance contract
the fuck is that shit

[small anvil]

all the acquisition contracts are the same i believe?

[vernal valve]

yeah except the pet one

[tender harness]

oh no he switched to sensory

[hasty shard]

monka

[upbeat moss]

thats the chasing one, right?

[tender harness]

IIRC yes

severance is the HF no prayers one with one shot orbs

[hasty shard]

i assume he moves during enrage?

otherwise wattesigma free

[tender harness]

hes on enrage rn and yes he does

[hasty shard]

lol

gwimblyfly when

[shadow wave]

Seems like Severance and Blows are the gatekeepers at the moment

[tender harness]

but severance and bloody blows seem legit

[shadow wave]

Do we know if anyone has a confirmed completion on either of them? I've only seen completions on the other three mentioned

[hasty shard]

bloodied blows is just the enrage thats wtf im guessing

[upbeat moss]

goblin avoided the quesion about bloodied blows being bugged.... im shaking and quaking

[tender harness]

would laugh if they just left this as duo tuning

and said hf as solo

[slender vapor]

I'd laugh if it was really holy water

[tender harness]

holy water tech

[upbeat moss]

that would make everything worthwhile

[tacit pendant]

Fights were balanced around delve reward dps ofc

[vernal valve]

it would be the funniest thing imaginable tbh

[slender vapor]

You mean the crush demonbane with 70 defense? No, no way this boss with a crush weak contract was balanced around that!

[upbeat moss]

bl blows actually impossible without delve reward for some reason lol

[tacit pendant]

Im curious on the clear % of these acquisiton contracts

[shadow wave]

I haven't seen blows P3 much, what's the thing that seems impossible? Is it the orb HP?

[upbeat moss]

orbs not being 1 shot, and healing yama for 400

[chrome lantern]

I did think about that, maybe the specific Yama crush weak contract is the “crush demonbane niche” Jagex was talking about for Diabolical aegis xd

[upbeat moss]

spawning constantly

[shadow wave]

Yikes

That seems like either a bug or a mechanic that can only be done one way

[upbeat moss]

yeah, nobody knows rn

pls be holy water, i never ask for anything but this is it

[restive siren]

holy sensory p3 looks insane

[chrome lantern]

I think it would be cool if one of the contracts had the glyphs still up in p3 xd

[hasty shard]

literally just cerb

[upbeat moss]

yeah that looks wild

[hasty shard]

which like. you already do cerb before mokh to get the boots so lol??

[chrome lantern]

Yeah was memeing that weapon was an awful proposal from delve

[hasty shard]

crush tank demonbane

[tacit pendant]

Umm it woulda been used here guy!!!

[rain fulcrum]

still a weak use case lol, 1 time forced thign

[chrome lantern]

Yeah

[tacit pendant]

100% lol

[plush gull]

bruh i completely forgot how to do normal yama after not sending attempts for a few days

[tacit pendant]

I bought an inquiz set, gonna camp pnm waiting for delve. My bet is crush good there

[hasty shard]

can they not design content with the intention to add things later to make it useful

like this is jagex we're talking about 😭

[rain fulcrum]

well, yama came out before delve

[analog crow]

gnome doing sensory now?

[tacit pendant]

Ralosssss

[rain fulcrum]

ralos is already useful

[hasty shard]

remembering prior things exist LOL

[upbeat moss]

yeah

[tacit pendant]

Its a maiden frisbee bro

[analog crow]

nice

[rain fulcrum]

yea and its hella fuckin good at that

[tacit pendant]

It is

[rain fulcrum]

i think itll be used at delve too tho

surely jagex doesnt forget about tbow for the 5th time

[tacit pendant]

But thats less uses than seercull

[hasty shard]

crush scythe bis

you can use seercull at yama smh

[tacit pendant]

100gp chad Seercull vs the 100m virgin ralos

[rain fulcrum]

i think the main thing gating ralos rn is that the current tbow contents are wave based

[tacit pendant]

Delve crush + tbow pls and thank you

[hasty shard]

let us shoot rubys from tbow

[tacit pendant]

Scobo as 2nd bis

[chrome lantern]

I wish pnm weren’t a meme grind so I there could actually exist a reasonable crush upgrade (I’m an iron)

[plush gull]

i suck at this game 😭

[rain fulcrum]

iw onder how long itll take for someone to create a donofly variant for the one where yama follows you

[upbeat moss]

the weekend tbh

[rain fulcrum]

thatll certainly be easier than brute forcing it imo

oh or theyre just gonna use scorching bow lol

[upbeat moss]

im more interested in bloodied blows p3

[rain fulcrum]

whats that one do

[chrome lantern]

I mean in theory if you can figure out when he pauses at what points in cycle for how long it should be feasible to make a cycle

[upbeat moss]

spawns more voidflares and they arent 1 shot

healling yama 400

or something

[plush gull]

why are people still obsessed with flying after kirby guide

[chrome lantern]

?

[rain fulcrum]

because it makes the boss fun?

[chrome lantern]

Well for one thing I don’t obsessively watch every single video published

[amber owl]

just tried an aqcuisition contract and it's hard af

[analog crow]

Man RIP to GMs if yama cas require contracts ig lol

[hasty shard]

probably not terrible if you set up red x

[plush gull]

its not the same as worms?

[plush gull]

that would actually be goated if it was a thing

i need some content that exposes me to red x mechanics

[hasty shard]

but then you're out like 5 food

oh right potato sack tech

hoooly

i just invented potatofly

😔 nvm you can have someone just come in and drop items for you lol

[slender vapor]

If you're french it becomes the frenchfly

[hasty shard]

frenchfly is better

[upbeat moss]

cant pick up items that are dropped before, right?

[hasty shard]

if you do you die but like

that will already happen if you go off cycle so

[hasty shard]

wait fk deaths coffer i completely forgot

are any of the items worth shoving in there still

[plush gull]

wait isnt bloodied blows like insane melee training

xp

o.O

[chrome lantern]

I don’t think anything was overvalued on Yama release, was it?

[plush gull]

just gotta tick eat while maxing every time

[chrome lantern]

Wouldn’t really help coffer

[hasty shard]

tallow

[chrome lantern]

Not over 10k ea though right?

[hasty shard]

barrel of

[chrome lantern]

Oh is the barrel tradeable, guess that makes sense

[plush gull]

need to be able to hit tho

def too high

[hasty shard]

why am i naked at bank

[chrome lantern]

Nobody is going to do a contract to train melees

[hasty shard]

why did i decide to rinse myself

smh

[plush gull]

i will if u tell me good gear and def reducing methods

that i can afford

[upbeat moss]

wait what lol

[chrome lantern]

That’s what Ren is suggesting above

Yama has a min defense cap

[upbeat moss]

oh lol

[hasty shard]

ok but it could go hard

[chrome lantern]

Even if you did full drain you still have to deal with mechanics

[small anvil]

worm contract was quoted at like 30m on release lol

[fiery epoch]

Can yama ever be good money after this update

[chrome lantern]

Nobody’s going to fight contract yama for hours on end

[chrome lantern]

Oh really lol

[plush gull]

i mean p1 is just tick eat flares and step on glyphs

[small anvil]

yeah i tried, and death wouldnt accept it tho

[plush gull]

while stepping back every 7 ticks

[rain fulcrum]

how is gnome taking so many melee 0s off pray thru robes

[upbeat moss]

pure gaming

[slender vapor]

Streamer rng

[upbeat moss]

hes clocked in or something

[fiery epoch]

Does anyone think yama will be good money making

[plush gull]

did anyone monster examine bloody blows

[hasty shard]

😭 lol

[slender vapor]

Bloody blows was broken

[rain fulcrum]

lmfaooo

[plush gull]

is it same def

[analog crow]

lol bloody blows hotfix

[slender vapor]

They had to hotfix it

[upbeat moss]

lololol 150m down the drain

[analog crow]

Okay my bad I was wrong

[plush gull]

😬

[upbeat moss]

second funniest outcome

[restive siren]

peak content

[chrome lantern]

What was the issue I am uninformed

[rain fulcrum]

ngl they would be able to refund it

[minor whale]

Are you fr lmao

[analog crow]

lmfao

[slender vapor]

Couldn't max the orbs in p3

[minor whale]

Did they post this anywhere

[slender vapor]

Was impossible to complete

[chrome lantern]

Oh lol

[slender vapor]

This info came from gnomes stream

[rain fulcrum]

not impossible, just naturally max

[chrome lantern]

I did hear that issue, makes sense

[upbeat moss]

actual gigachad answer

[hasty shard]

we eat those

[plush gull]

it looks like fang on bloodied blows with def reduc should be like 12 dps so not much better than like max melee xp

[hasty shard]

12 dps tf

that sounds nuts

[minor whale]

https://x.com/OldSchoolRS/status/1925961160429346994

Old School RuneScape (@OldSchoolRS)

PSA: We've just deployed a hotfix to correct an issue where the damage bonus for lower HP wasn't correctly applying to Voidflares if you were tackling the Contract of Bloodied Blows.

X · May 23, 2025, 5:04 PM

[plush gull]

scythe on colo mobs is over 10

yama has slightly higher xp mult

[upbeat moss]

rip holy water

[plush gull]

so its a tiny bit more xp/h than just scything colo mobs normally

probably not worth it