#leagues-general

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lone bloom
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Why are you wasting xp on burying

amber sleet
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what am i looking at here?

fluid fable
covert wolf
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eww dupe already

fluid fable
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Also its not wasted

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At least afaik

lone bloom
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Imagine not taking soul harvest

fluid fable
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I doubt i can altar boost it

lone bloom
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U can

covert wolf
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imagine training rc on league

fluid fable
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Doubt

lone bloom
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It stack w the 16x rate

torpid trench
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Just turn em into bone shards?

fluid fable
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It specifically gets boosts by 3x on buries

crystal kelp
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You're really a fan huh

pure karma
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im running out of juice for this demon cup

fluid fable
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9x would be silly

torpid trench
amber sleet
lone bloom
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What does mushroom have to do w blindbag

amber sleet
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you wouldn't understand

torpid trench
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It means you dont carry the dramen staff for negative dmg

amber sleet
lone bloom
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O lmao

fluid fable
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Mushroom should be a real item

crystal kelp
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Funny interaction

fluid fable
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It fits in main game

torpid trench
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But its also just an absolutely goated item

smoky raft
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you don't carry the dramen staff because of blindbag interactions

I don't carry the dramen staff because I fucking walk everywhere

we are not the same

torpid trench
fluid fable
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What happened to 3 and 4

torpid trench
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Because its a joke

fluid fable
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I mean iv been thinking about it. And it legitamately is fine for main game

torpid trench
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gotta build up to an item that OP or else the community will nuke itself for the 15th time this decade

crystal kelp
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Being able to teleport to every patch is ridiculously OP and doesn't fit

lone bloom
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Bank heist has teleport options that are literally right next to a fairy ring, so mushroom felt obsolete to me

fluid fable
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It still takes up the inv slot. So say ur using a tp to salve, all it does is save u 3 seconds

torpid trench
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Its more than fairy rings

fluid fable
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I didnt know that

torpid trench
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its any spirit tree, any tool lep, and access to fairy rings any time at all time

smoky raft
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rs3 doesn't even have infinite tps to fairy rings

fluid fable
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Ahh

torpid trench
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its ungodly op

crystal kelp
torpid trench
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like a solid 15/10 relic choice on its own

fluid fable
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Yeh omay. Lmao its a lil op

smoky raft
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it has a cost to use tp to fairy rings but that's a whole nother beast

torpid trench
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oh and its not even an invent slot

fluid fable
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I thought it was just fairy rings

torpid trench
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you can equip that shit

smoky raft
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hold the mushroom like ice cream cone

fluid fable
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Oki. Well lets nerf it down to only dramen staff 2, and put it in main

smoky raft
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why

torpid trench
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I have become a mushroomancer

fluid fable
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Coz its just nice to save 3 seconds of nothing walking

smoky raft
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it also saves a whole multiple days of questing to get the lumbridge elite diary

fluid fable
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Doesnt save an inv slot. So therefor its not a power spike at all, just a qol upgrade

smoky raft
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it's qol but it's not healthy

torpid trench
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And it makes old methods obselete, something this game doesnt take well to

fluid fable
smoky raft
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sidegrades are the language of updates

fluid fable
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Simple

torpid trench
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This game exists because tens of thousands of autistic adults couldnt handle change. Do not change the way they do their farm runs, they will find you, and they will hurt you

fluid fable
torpid trench
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You mean ardy cloak, surely

smoky raft
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ok so it invalidates the 95 con grind for a fairy ring / spirit tree combo

fluid fable
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Idk i barely use it

smoky raft
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every "qol" change reaches a lot farther than people expect

fluid fable
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Tbh i actually tp to ge when i wanna fairy ring

torpid trench
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Right, so youre advocating for a major game change with 0 thought behind it based on something you got in an intentionally broken game mode

fluid fable
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Coz thats just the tab i always have on me

torpid trench
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moving on

fluid fable
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Not very good

smoky raft
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but yeah, sure, if you think it's a good idea, I'll be glad to vote on it

crystal kelp
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Also, it's a teleport to any fairy ring, so it's a time save using it etc

torpid trench
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Fastest no of my life KEKW

crystal kelp
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Makes fairy rings go from a transport system to a lode network essentially

torpid trench
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^

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Fucking hate the RS3 lode network so much

fluid fable
torpid trench
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Bro I cant

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im trying to eat

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and im gonna choke

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fuck

smoky raft
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I wonder if anybody's ever suggest War's Retreat Teleport as a qol update

crystal kelp
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Milk thinks of nothing beyond their 28 slots and I respect it

smoky raft
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instant free teleport to a bank and nardah altar

torpid trench
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The level of devotion to his backpack is legendary man

crystal kelp
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"I should be able to teleport to any tile in the game! It takes up an inventory slot so it's fine"

fluid fable
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I only mean as exactly fairy rings. I didnt know about all the other the real one does

torpid trench
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"I spent 1/28th of my carrying capacity, so teleporting to every major area in the game is a fair trade!"

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We are memeing you based on the only fairy rings proposal

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dont worry

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we understand

fluid fable
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Its litterally the same tho. If u carry a dramen staff and a tele to ur closest ring then this item is still carrying a dramen staff, and is instead in itself, the teleport to the closest ring

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The only change is u walk 5 less seconds every now and then

crystal kelp
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That's the wrong definition of "literally"

fluid fable
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Basically

torpid trench
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and im literally the president of the USA, I just need to move there, get citizenship, get an education in politics, and plan a campaign

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literally bro

crystal kelp
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We've said it a few times if you can't see the difference then it's on you LA_Shrug

fluid fable
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Fine, ig

torpid trench
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The point we are making is that what you are calling a small QoL change powered by this item actually skips over or invalides a pretty substantial amount of travel unlocks via quest unlocks and such, as well as massively devalues an elite diary, and probably a bunch more stuff. I can understand that in the 1 situation you considered before dying on this hill for this idea, it seemed balanced. But that kind of mentality gets you RS3 very, very quickly. This game is a quarter century old, nothing is ever that simple sadly

dusky coral
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finallyyy

fluid fable
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It doesnt have to devalue the diary at all. It can still be limited to needing dramen staff if u dont have diary

dusky coral
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i hate the MTA

smoky raft
covert wolf
smoky raft
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all the MTA tasks only take like 4 hours combined

smoky raft
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and they give a SHIT ton of points

dusky coral
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4 hours, yeah

fluid fable
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But to me that sounds like the goal

torpid trench
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that is 4 more hours than I am willing to spend at MTA KEKW

dusky coral
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but my god is it annoying

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especially telekinetic and alchemist

smoky raft
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the only MTA room I dislike is the alchemy room

dusky coral
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i fucking HATE IT

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thank god enchantment is dumb fast

smoky raft
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and guess what! as one of the four people who picked Flow State, I was delightfully surprised to discover that Flow State does not work when casting alchemy spells in MTA

crystal kelp
torpid trench
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If my regions are Kand/Mory/Desert, is my best shot at a visage 1/2k from mith drags?

torpid trench
smoky raft
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I stand by my decision

torpid trench
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I respect your commitment in the face of logic. Your conviction is admirable

fluid fable
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Flowstate feels like itd of been good as like a t1 or 2 relic

torpid trench
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^

kind cairn
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I got melted by lizardmen shaman in CoX just now where my buddy with the same build was fine, any idea what happened?

fluid fable
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Its just very late to be getting a skilling relic tho

torpid trench
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Even a T3/4, but putting it against reload was such a piss take

covert wolf
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wildy task so easy

dusky coral
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T6 star in front of MTA at 592 btw

smoky raft
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the only thing that could compete with it in terms of usefulness is Soul Harvest for RC, but the time saved by skipping RC wouldn't even come close to the time I've already saved because of Flow State

crystal kelp
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Flow state could have been built into barb relic and nobody would have noticed

covert wolf
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if i didn't ely in the next 100kc i'll cry

crystal kelp
fluid fable
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Rc is pretty fast any way, at least if ur only doing it for xp

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Id hate to actually need the runes i make

dusky coral
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omfg after all that MTA i still didn't get 94 magic for ice barrage

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can master wand autocast standard?

fluid fable
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[[Dragon hai]]

obsidian bluffBOT
fluid fable
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I still dont know what it is ๐Ÿคฃ

torpid trench
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[[master wand]]

obsidian bluffBOT
torpid trench
dusky coral
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ty

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truth be told, after 5 seconds of no one answering i already searched the wiki anyway scrongle , but i appreciate your effort

white marsh
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anyone need the crystal impling task?

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nvm it's gone

cloud panther
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WOOT

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Awakened Vardorvis is dead

pure karma
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anyone with abundance want to share their strats for mining, fishing, and wc?

kind cairn
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are you guaranteed a rare from CoX challenge mode similar to how you're essentially guranteed a rare on ToB hard mode?

covert wolf
cloud panther
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Also question-I know it is possible to do Mahogany Homes without Asgarnia but is it possible to access the rewards shop for it without Asgarnia?

smoky raft
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it is not

covert wolf
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what's your region?

covert wolf
pure karma
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wild, mory, asg. i was thinking iron ore, teaks on karamja, and idk what fish

smoky raft
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CoX chest mechanics are very weird, a consequence of it being the first raid and the devs not really knowing what they were doing with it

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iirc it's actually impossible to get guaranteed purples from CoX in any context

covert wolf
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in 6 man average party sometimes you have 5 people getting purple and sometimes you have 2 people getting purple

covert wolf
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abundance is like the least best option now that i think of it

pure karma
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im trying to not afk anything if i can get 3m an hour from an active route

covert wolf
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everyone know what EH capable of
and barbarian have knapsack which is like a bigger space and can always dispose all the stuff

crystal kelp
pure karma
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i forgot about gem rocks

covert wolf
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there's not much option on fishing honestly
i think iron ore is also your best bet

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teak at karamja if you know the 2t trick

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i guess you have everything you ask for one the right spot

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it's kinda slight different if you have barbarian

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stars and calcified is way more faster exp than iron

pure karma
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stars is?

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i was only seeing 500k an hour

covert wolf
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barbarian perk

winged tiger
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man I look so strange lol. infernal cape, maxed treads, conflictions and full mystic lol

covert wolf
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idk how it goes without barbarian honestly

pure karma
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slowly

covert wolf
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but with barbarian you can see the exp coming in between 2-5 tick

long trail
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how much hp does echo dusk have? i am understanding it's not 450

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cuz this mf takes soo much damage

crystal kelp
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1080

long trail
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ty

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is that the same for the copies?

crystal kelp
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Old School RuneScape Wiki

The Echo Grotesque Guardians are an Elite difficulty variant of the Grotesque Guardians that is accessible during the Demonic Pacts League. To fight them the player must have a Morytania echo orb in their inventory when entering the Slayer Tower roof entrance in Morytania, dropped by the normal Grotesque Guardians at a rate of 1/30. A brittle ke...

frosty cradle
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how many amoxliatl kills for the echo item? im at 20 just wondering

copper skiff
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does devils element work as a shield with thorns?

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poop

short cave
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is zulrah the best source of magic seeds if u dont have transmute with tirr/asg/kand?

winged sinew
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Exp wasting in leagues by making a bank layuout for farming

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(not done yet and i have others kinda done too)

smoky raft
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I was exp wasting earlier by spending like 90 minutes trying to figure out the projectile system in the Weapon Animation Replacer plugin

winged sinew
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teak and mahogany is hardwood

smoky raft
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I eventually gave up upon realizing that I could not get it work with temporary items like the Shadowflame quadrant

winged sinew
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why they are not with the other tree

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wait idk why flax is alone

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anyway, i should do more tasks

winged sinew
atomic bison
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hi this is my first time playing rs, can i ask gearing questions here?

torpid trench
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Does being on task make a draconic visage more likely to drop?

winged sinew
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this is most likely because the object that flies towards the enemy has data like the amount of damage while a animation does not

torpid trench
frosty cradle
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ight ty

atomic bison
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yes its a league question

torpid trench
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Fire away then

winged sinew
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I have glance at animation replacer plugin

fast bridge
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ok jagex, the 150 vardorvis dry meme can stop now

winged sinew
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just have not looked into it too much

torpid trench
fast bridge
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sir

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dont

smoky raft
# winged sinew projectiles are not animations but objects that are caused by a weapon so you wo...

it's โœจ fucky โœจ

In order for projectile swapping to actually work, you (apparently) need to use the plugin to transmog an item into itself, then apply custom data to that transmog

The input slot can grab from your equipment, so you can just slap the quadrant in there, but the output slot requires a search input, and the shadowflame quadrant simply doesn't appear in the provided list due to how new it is

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and, as far as I'm aware, projectiles are animations

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a lot of things are animations

torpid trench
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Wouldnt the projectile be the object, and the animation an effect of said object?

atomic bison
winged sinew
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I can try to change my toxic to soemthing else and see if i can make it work

smoky raft
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behind the scenes, the projectile itself is just an animation being move along a specific path (usually a downward arc from a set start height to a set end height)

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you know those kamikaze scarabs in the ToA Kephri fight? Those are actually just two animations, one for the scarab flying at you and another for the scarab exploding

copper skiff
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49 kc

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1 more and the staff is mine

smoky raft
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(because of this, you can use the plugin to make a bow that shoots those scarabs instead of arrows... when the plugin is working, at least)

past forge
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whats my best afk wc xp?

smoky raft
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*(I say "animations" but I believe these are actually referred to as GFX))

smoky raft
strange jacinth
smoky raft
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pretty much

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assuming you also don't have woodsman

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your other choices are more or less Kraken or Thermy, both of which are rarer than 1/100 for 1 seed

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Vale Totems would also be pretty good

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since you get x8 offerings

short cave
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i have woodsman

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i didnt even know about the hunter tree seed perk ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ancient wolf
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so the gauntlet and everything is just completely rng right

frosty cradle
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got it at 32. dope tyty

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infernal tecpatl seem kinda butts lol

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maybe good for eclipse boss?

winged sinew
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i got it to work @smoky raft

frosty cradle
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hmm but without shield no thorns

winged sinew
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using toxic

frosty cradle
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seems like useless item guess at least got pact

smoky raft
smoky raft
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that's the issue

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I'm trying to change projectile data for a custom spell gfx

winged sinew
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oh, make your own?

smoky raft
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well, assemble it from existing pieces

winged sinew
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well that would need to change the plugin, it does not support a custom spell

smoky raft
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if you click the little pencil icon next to an animation swap you can see all the fucky details

winged sinew
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like size of the shadow projectile

smoky raft
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oh ffs

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all my pending messages sent at once

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And the bot thought I was spamming

smoky raft
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that's what I'm trying to do, essentially

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I'll give it another try tomorrow

winged sinew
smoky raft
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... what exactly do you think I am trying to do

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I think that's where the miscommunication is happening here

copper skiff
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does shadowflame quadrant benefit from the powered staffs sped up by 3 sticks pact?

smoky raft
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it's not a powered staff

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so no

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it autocasts combat spells do it does benefit from the 2 tick faster combat spells pact

copper skiff
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ok cool thanks

chilly pine
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is there a way to have picked up runes by minion go in the rune pouch?

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since we cant visit lumbridge for the mage tutor

fresh rock
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am i reading this right?
200 points for 50 superiors
30 points for 75??

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like what

pure karma
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is it even worth the effort to max?

winged sinew
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or giant blobs

torpid trench
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lmao

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wtf

smoky raft
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yeah that

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I think I just fucked up the settings

fast bridge
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Jagek, I would like to appologize for complaining earlier about 150 dry vardorvis. If I had known you would have let me get to 200 dry, I would have been more appreciative.

torpid trench
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As someone whos never even made it to triple jads, how hard is getting an inferno cape going to be with a watermage thorns setup?

fierce heron
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my friend is going to do the tripple jad CA and he is failing the defeat each one with a different combat style one, it is failing when he attacks the second one weather he starts with his magic ranged or melee for his first, he doesnt have a shield and his echo boots and suffering are disabled so there is no reflect damage

winged sinew
fast bridge
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I watched EVscape literally afk the inferno with water mage thorns

fierce heron
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is there anything we are missing

fast bridge
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so hopefully not too hard

torpid trench
mint stone
winged sinew
torpid trench
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This is the loadout atm, coping at mithril dragons atm for a visage

cursive glacier
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Took me 2 attempts

languid belfry
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phosani nightmare with water thorns is uhh...huh.

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No idea how you're supposed to do enrage phase

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Best I got is a swap to lithic sceptre or maybe a melee weapon? But god a 900 magic defense really is just the middle finger

torpid trench
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How long was it

cursive glacier
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Like an hour or smth but i was playing more careful than full afk

languid belfry
torpid trench
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Did you do the full thing, like freeze nibs and all that jaz?

torpid trench
languid belfry
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but also nothing will kill you outside of magers if you're not praying mage and/or triple jads.

cursive glacier
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I didnt have ancients, but i tried to keep my pillars alive

languid belfry
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Pact point at the leagues only challenge at 6*

torpid trench
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I thought it was a pact point to do the special chal, not 6

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and special chal is much different that just 6 jads

languid belfry
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uh

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no not really

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it just adds extra mobs

cursive glacier
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Mainly cause mage/ranger at the same time scared me after killing me on first attempt

languid belfry
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and honestly that makes it easier

torpid trench
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From what ive seen, looks like a lot more pressure

languid belfry
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nope.

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if you're mage + thorns

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the extra adds actually help you survive better

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because they randomly tick heal you

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I would say the scariest wave is maybeeeeeee the mage wave?

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but otherwise it's basically just 6 jads, but longer.

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(Because the jads heal to full per wave)

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everything else suicides on your thorns and dies

torpid trench
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shrugFreg Ill get around to it someday if i can be bothered then. Ill keep trying for the visage for a while, Im at 183kc now, prob go to 250 or 300 tonight and then call it

languid belfry
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Like the only reason I even struggled is that I'm just bad at prayer flicking.

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...well also until I did Jad I had

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like 2 accuracy nodes

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don't try to do it with 65% accuracy

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๐Ÿ˜“

mint stone
torpid trench
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i currently have 0 lg acc nodes

languid belfry
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was the same

pure karma
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are ankous the fastest way to farm these?

languid belfry
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it's a really awful feeling when uh, you fail to heal because your water spells splash for like twenty seconds straight

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I'm going to just send inferno in the morning for my next pact point

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fuck phosani's nightmare lmao

torpid trench
surreal kiln
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why does this shit haunts me even in leagues

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this is the least fun content grind for irons already

next dust
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confuse

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jogre bone gave me 360 xp, not 240

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to match that xp it's a 24x multiplier

surreal kiln
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50% extra

surreal kiln
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because combat no

tacit oyster
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extra 1.5x multiplier for combat

torpid trench
next dust
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50% extra what

mint stone
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Prayer is a combat skill, 24x

next dust
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oh

surreal kiln
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without

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its shit grind

torpid trench
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Skill issue

surreal kiln
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its not fun

torpid trench
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just look for the green colored boots

surreal kiln
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but I signed up for it

torpid trench
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and put em on

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ezpz

next dust
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according to wiki prayer is not a combat skill sometimes

winged sinew
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just get them

next dust
mint stone
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Combat skill is anything that increases your combat level

torpid trench
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Except when it isnt

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the game is infamously inconsistent

mint stone
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For example slayer isn't a combat skill, even tho many think it is.

torpid trench
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And yet there are "combat skill" xp lamps from quests that can give slayer xp

mint stone
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The fact the game allows you to spend it on slayer doesn't immediatly translate that it is a combat skill ๐Ÿ˜„

next dust
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off to the Teomat then

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i thought it was 16x

torpid trench
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Each "generation" of devs at jagex seemed to have had a different take on what was and wasnt a combat skill, based losely on "it relates vaguely to combat" or "its tied directly to your combat level", alternating

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Im of the opinion that it should only be skills impacting combat level personally, but shrugFreg

surreal kiln
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well its time for 25 more meds Catto_praise

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maybe I gain the skill to just get the drop

torpid trench
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Just keep reopening the casket until it gives you what you want

surreal kiln
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I cant turn back the time

cursive glacier
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any good sources of antipoison better than karamja shop?

maiden ivy
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is there some world or area where people do the forestry tasks

mint stone
maiden ivy
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ty

short cave
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have people found that hunter is reliable source for magic seeds?

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im at 20 seeds through 631 kc zulrah wondering if its way more common doing hunter

mint stone
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Hunter gives herb seeds through woodsman, I don't think it supplies any tree seeds?

short cave
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traps always drop a random herb seed or tree seed when harvested

tough finch
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There's some sort of bug going on at phosani's nightmare with fire mage where I'm able to get burn to tick on her HP bar while she's supposed to be invuln during pillar phase... I'm getting red hitsplats for burn instead of burn hitsplats, and if I manage to have it happen before desperation phase, I just totally skip the desperation phase. My pb is 4:07 because of the desperation skip

mint stone
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Probably way more from Zulrah, haven't got many from hunter myself

tough finch
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I can't seem to figure out the exact conditions for causing the burn to tick on her actual hp bar. it's so weird.

tacit oyster
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best rate without transmute would probably be lvl90+ fletching vale totems or revenants

short cave
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honestly might be worth it to augment with crystal tree since i have priff

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just farm hunnleff for seeds that i can then turn to acorns

tough finch
short cave
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41 acorn seeds needed to get from 88 to 99, just get 20 or so seeds and then i should have enough magic seeds as is (15) to get me to 99

timber quest
regal spindle
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what are eazy zam items to feed the minion? regions are CG, mortaniya, kandarin

timber quest
tacit oyster
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medium/hard clues easiest way

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kandarin can get zamorak robes

timber quest
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Oi oi Dami

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Good shout

thorny terrace
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finally.

timber quest
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Now you get to play the game

thorny terrace
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first and last time i go for dragon tbh ๐Ÿ˜†
enjoyed the league overall though

regal spindle
tacit oyster
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yeah just top and bottom

regal spindle
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does zamorak warrior or mages inside zeah drop any more

rare hollow
next dust
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? @regal spindle ?

cursive glacier
pure karma
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how many days are left for league

winged sinew
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39

pure karma
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i wonder if i have enough time to get dragon

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i hit a pvm wall ๐Ÿคก

rare hollow
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whats it called

mint stone
next dust
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why doesnt minion whistle count as a Zamorak item in GWD?

signal frost
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is getting 25m prayer glitched? at 26m but cant trigger task

next dust
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bury a bonee normally?

mint stone
signal frost
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tried ๐Ÿ™

next dust
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they have control over that

mint stone
signal frost
mint stone
signal frost
mint stone
signal frost
#

tragic

#

had to bury a bone with full 99 prayer points lmao

fast bridge
#

if im on a "tzhaar" task, does that work in inferno?

#

similarly, if I upgrade it to a jad task, does that work on the jads in inferno?

mint stone
mint stone
fast bridge
#

rip

mint stone
#

TzTok-Jad is Fire Cape, JalTok-Jad is Infernal Cape.

lone bloom
#

Just green logged moons !!! Finally

mint stone
#

5550 kc, 25/26 ancient pages, fullhelm, visage dropped. It is over bois

lone bloom
#

Now I can reset from this blindbag build

#

122 chests killing 1 boss per kc

crystal kelp
fluid spoke
#

@glass onyx did you ever get slayer issue sorted? Same boat ๐Ÿ™

regal spindle
#

can i view progress on a league task?

lone bloom
#

For the hunt X chinchillas you just need to count them

peak crypt
#

Man echo hunleff can be pretty frustrating towards the end lol. Depending on what the tiles end up looking like. But I think I end up liking it just because of the fact that theres no prep time

rare hollow
#

i need the scroll but this one keeps giving only the book

#

how can i get the scroll

crystal kelp
rare hollow
#

i checked

#

biblia said its in this room only and i also checked each shelf in the room

#

i legit am confused

#

ok you know what can i hop worlds

fluid spoke
#

If I get Ice Warriors as first task with only Karamja Mory and varlamore unlcoked am I soft locked slayer?

mighty zodiac
#

Wait I'm wrong sorry

#

They're in the amox dungeon

tacit oyster
#

both are same drop rate and i only need the claw scronglypirate

rare hollow
#

ok so hopping changes all the locations of the books

#

very good

mighty zodiac
#

so thermy is barely a boss with thorns/lithic sceptre lol

peak crypt
#

It took me like 270 kills or something to get zulrahs fang the other day. Got 4 or 5 of every other drop before it gave it to me

kindred cypress
#

what thieving method is best gp/hr? is it elves in priff?

short cave
#

took me 340 kc to get fang from zulrah. now im farming her for magic seed and she dropped 4 in 50 kc lmfao

mighty zodiac
short cave
#

no

peak crypt
#

Yeah transmute's the way to go for sure

short cave
#

thats why im farming zulrah

torpid trench
#

How does imbueing a recoil work on the league? Am I really meant to afk nmz?

rare hollow
#

no

#

you exchange gp for nmz points

#

no nmz in leagues

torpid trench
#

At the nmz?

rare hollow
#

yeah talk to the floating dude

torpid trench
#

amazing

toxic whale
#

King's barrage heal doesn't work on olm? I'm only getting healed like threes and fours, even on range phase/mage hand

peak crypt
#

I HATE echo hunlef

short cave
#

are pet drop rates same as base game?

peak crypt
torpid trench
#

if one were to pickpocket for gp using larceny, which npc yields the highest coin amount?

short cave
#

elves

tacit oyster
#

elves but have to sell a lot of the drops to karamja general store

torpid trench
#

Oh so it depends on the sale of the noted loot?

merry sphinx
#

ive completed 10 colosseums and still only like 50k sunfire splinters

#

why is it so hard

tacit oyster
#

isnt it like 40+ colosseum clears for blessed quiver

merry sphinx
#

4k a quiver

#

i guess so

#

a little under 40

fading oak
#

didn't play leagues in forever...11m xp lol

pure karma
#

thats rough

torpid trench
#

Man I genuinely hate slayer grinds

lime sable
#

Is master mixology worth?

peak crypt
#

If you don't have the farming perk I think it is. I was skimping on very few herbs and it helped me get the most out of them

#

I guess if you're a baller bosser that has tons of herb drops maybe not

lime sable
#

Herbs really arent a problem for me but the secondary ingredients kinda are

#

Just gonna have to grind it out

winged sinew
mighty zodiac
#

how is echo thermy compared to other echo bosses

winged sinew
tacit oyster
#

mastering mixology is nice for point rewards, 10% secondary save goggles and potion storage so dont need to decant potions manually

winged sinew
#

snape grass is so easy to get

lime sable
#

Yeah i could just hit 8.1k prayer pots to 99

torpid trench
winged sinew
#

like superior dragon bones

#

limpwurt

tacit oyster
#

for me herbs are the main issue, 10-15k herbs for 50m xp scronglypirate

peak crypt
#

Yeah herbs are my issue for sure

tacit oyster
#

i can transmute seeds to always get dwarfweed which lowers the herbs needed a lot but still have to farm thousands of them

winged sinew
#

if you have transmute and want herbs just pickpocket master farmer

lime sable
mighty zodiac
#

or echo ggs as a whole with melee

rare hollow
#

whats the wintertodt world

#

for some silly reason jagex puts a forestry world

winged sinew
#

another easy secondary you can get is these

rare hollow
#

ty jagex for forestry worlds what would i ever do without them

winged sinew
#

yew roots

#

and make antitdote ++

#

birds nests spawns all the time while woodcutting

peak crypt
#

Why is it that with Echo Hunleff, you're either going to have a nice easy time. Or get raked over hard?

peak crypt
#

I just really hate this boss. I'm just venting. I'm bad at the game. And I know it. And tbh I'm just glad I'm able to beat him some of the time. But god damn is it annoying when there's like 12 tornados on screen and the floors keep changing and my prayer gets turned off when I don't see it

#

Just need 1 more armor seed and I can be done

crystal kelp
#

Gl

covert wolf
#

what's the meaning of scrape?

peak crypt
#

Just get some scaly blue dhide from a blue dragon and use a knife on it

#

Semi rare drop from blues

wise heron
#

virtus robes drop rate at whisperer can't be real man

#

took me 563 kills to get one

winged sinew
austere mirage
rare hollow
#

how tf am i supposed to do this gang meeting diary requirement if there are no gang meetings

#

gagek really

austere mirage
#

oh mate we gonna start a gang?

potent quail
covert wolf
#

i wonder if i can get access to lunar spell from max cape if i don't have fremmenik unlocked

next dust
#

1 more to go!

#

4 defence levels

rare hollow
#

just gotta wait for a bit till they spawn

#

kinda sucks every 30min like crystal imps but whatever

potent quail
#

its not that bad

#

you know exactl where they spawn and only need to do it once

rare hollow
#

yeah

fluid fable
wise heron
fluid fable
#

The classic use for hides, we all know what it is

peak crypt
#

How is thermy compared to hunleff?

surreal kiln
#

Kinda chill

potent quail
#

i think echo hun is easier then echo thermyXD

surreal kiln
#

I base it on my friend having existtential crisis while doing hunleff ( or rather hunleff doing him)

potent quail
#

(i have 1 tick pstaff and 75% prayer pen)

peak crypt
#

Right now I'm the one having an existential crisis lol. Like enough that I'm about to start hitting things irl lol. I think its mostly because I can't bring my build into the fight, and thats really frustrating. But if I have to do all of this for thermy again I might lose it lol

stark mist
#

I'm just tryna play league not mess around with yama Why. Can we just get fking dupe protection.

wise heron
#

i feel that

#

i made it to top 3 whisperer kills trying to get one single piece of virtus

#

but i got almost 6 bellator rings

stark mist
#

I just wanna get done with yama so I can do some cox. Stuck with yama for 2 days.

wise heron
#

what's stopping you from doing cox now

stark mist
#

thing is I already made 9 infernal plate so I can complete the full oathplate for pact point. I just need either body or helm then i'm done. dont wanna keep it hanging

peak crypt
#

I'm actually laughing so hard. Got my 3rd armor seed from hunleff. Thanked the gods and left to craft my armor, to find out that it takes 6 pieces in all. Figured it was just one per. Guess it makes since. Guess I'm going back to hunleff.... God I hate that fight

potent quail
heavy dome
#

This is my first leagues, but I also haven't done any bossing/raids etc at all on my main char (I stopped playing at around '07, Barrows had just released IIRC and I never got to that level). What regions should I go for? Looking at ones that might not need a perfect build as much as others (currently still doing Varlamore tasks, and probably going to go 1h melee + thorns)

wise heron
peak crypt
#

Echo hunleff makes me want to gauge my eyeballs out lol. I'm sure I'd get it super fast if I did echo. But I spend about the same amount of time as normal cg just dying over and over until I win one. So might as well go back to cg where its 100% completion for me at least

potent quail
wise heron
#

yeah kandarin is goated region

potent quail
wise heron
#

asgarnia

potent quail
#

asgarnia

surreal kiln
#

the asgarnia dagger is pretty nice tbh

fluid fable
#

Idk how i feel about giant foundry

wise heron
#

i went kandarin kourend asgarnia

#

pretty happy with it

fluid fable
#

Its not bad and yet i kinda hate it

past birch
potent quail
#

how well does crystal armor work with 1h weapon?
echo blessing does allow it ancestralhmm

fluid fable
#

Its like, maybe even good. But something bugs me

surreal kiln
#

but also its tick faster than anything else

heavy dome
potent quail
#

literally just spawned in

heavy dome
#

Innit

potent quail
#

so 1. dont touch pact resets till 10 points

past birch
#

I wish dogger had more proc chance for the fire

wise heron
#

are any melee builds good

#

i've heard people saying blindbag sucks

heavy dome
#

I've been having fun exploring Varlamore tbh

surreal kiln
#

this is my opinion on pact resets

fresh rock
#

can they just give us unlimited resets thanks

surreal kiln
#

no

past birch
#

Yeah just give more resets ffs

fresh rock
#

limited time game mode who cares

fluid fable
surreal kiln
#

maybe last week of a league I wouldnt mind

fluid fable
#

Its strong tho, ans pretty fun

#

Just clunky

surreal kiln
#

infinite resets are bad design as was 3rd league

fresh rock
#

relics no reset only pacts

surreal kiln
#

pacts are half of the spice

#

its like you would make a meat and spiced it with just salt or pepper

#

not both

#

only one of them

potent quail
little relic
#

limited resets with no way of earning more is bad design too

surreal kiln
#

tbh 3 resets was bad

#

5 is nice

potent quail
# surreal kiln 5 is nice

well it depends on the player, some players burn trough them the moment they get them and dont really plan

surreal kiln
#

a way to earn extra one on some very hard content or when reaching Dcup or something would be nice

#

I havent used a single one yet and I can pretty much do everything I want to think

potent quail
#

i am still pro more reset:
in my case i say time based:
to the 5 we have: 1 free reset every week (does not stack)

surreal kiln
#

yes

fluid fable
#

Idk how people are so stressed about them tbh

surreal kiln
#

that wouldnt be bad

#

unlimited is bad

#

too limited is bad

potent quail
#

this allows players when they are done with the league
to come back a week later and try out a build they havent tried yet

fluid fable
#

I used one mid fight cave coz 5s an absolute abundancr

potent quail
#

and still commits people to the pacts they choose

little relic
#

league is about fun maxing. limiting resets isnโ€™t fun.

surreal kiln
#

Limiting resets make build diversity -> More fun

#

unlimiting resets -> Less diversity -> Less fun

fluid fable
#

Part of the fun is trying to max out on what u actually have access to

past birch
#

I believe they just want us to use different accounts and that's why it's limited

fluid fable
#

Not just. Welp time to be too strong for this boss now instead

#

I think what limited respecs do is really make u fomo urself into trying content u might not do if u had limited resets

surreal kiln
#

you dont need a cookie cutter for each boss you need to do

fluid fable
#

Coz like. U know ull suck for it after u leave ur build behind. So gotta try it now

next dust
#

whats the best combat xp/hr? just afking at king sand crabs?

surreal kiln
#

ppl taht complain about lack of resets spec into complete cookie cutters for each content which makes gameplay boring

next dust
#

for defence

wise heron
#

what i'm not a fan of is limited regions

fluid fable
#

Snd thats good. Trying new content is good

next dust
fluid fable
next dust
#

not tileman, the opther thing

#

the bingo one

wise heron
#

chunkman?

next dust
#

tilemaster

potent quail
# little relic league is about fun maxing. limiting resets isnโ€™t fun.

well it is a interesting point

limitations make games fun, a "you win button" is the least amount of limitation, but no one would like it.

i do think jagex assume every player plans out pacts very well, then 5 resets is plenty, but tons of people who just pick what sounds fun with no thought behind it and needing more resets

next dust
#

thats not region locked

fluid fable
#

Crabs are for if u wanna be safe too walk away

next dust
#

but im not a Melee build

potent quail
next dust
#

but need the def xp

#

just to get it finished yk

#

and melee will be the way to get that xp

#

so i think to AFK crabs?

potent quail
fluid fable
#

Idk what regions u have

next dust
#

yes ofc

fluid fable
#

But its never crabs

next dust
#

Asg, Zeah, Prif

potent quail
#

1 of these skills is not like the others

next dust
#

specifically these

fluid fable
#

They got 60 hp and ur killing them in 4 seconds

potent quail
#

CRAB

wise heron
#

despite hating slayer i am probably going to end up getting 50m slayer just from boss tasks

next dust
#

well def xp is for the damage dealt

#

not the time to kill

#

thats for slayer xp

fluid fable
#

Time to kill is waiting for spawn time

next dust
#

gemstone crab is less combat xp right cause of the xp reduction

#

im not a melee build

#

theyre respawning faster than i can kill

fluid fable
#

Wtf

#

What did u do so wrong

#

That u cant kill a crav

next dust
#

im a bow buiild?

#

theyre King Sand Crabs

fluid fable
#

Idk what king crab is

next dust
fluid fable
#

O true

next dust
#

bulkier

fluid fable
#

Love that bow

next dust
#

theyre not normal sand crabs

#

they Chunky

#

but they could drop the stuff for skotizo

potent quail
#

i do wish i had infinite goading potions for slayer

covert wolf
#

anyone here using crystal throne as construction leveling?
how much gp do i need to prep from 95 to 99?

potent quail
#

that would make it truly afkable with all my healing

next dust
#

sad you didnt take friendly forager?

#

how many times did i say

potent quail
#

kekw well i am happy i dont have to tray agi

fluid fable
#

I almost reloaded into iy

next dust
#

youd only need 1 Aldarium

fluid fable
#

And then ended up with sus instead

next dust
#

reload into friendly forager* ofc

surreal kiln
#

personally I see barely any airmages

#

๐Ÿคฃ

#

are they somewhere else

fluid fable
#

Still trying to get my hands on a angler fish

next dust
#

ive been THINKING to rebuild into an Undead Grasp build LOL

heavy dome
#

thanks for the advice all

fluid fable
#

The only way i can get them is as a drop from levi

potent quail
fluid fable
#

And im struggling

potent quail
wise heron
fluid fable
#

Builds not quite strong enough to make up for me bejng real real bad at it

next dust
#

does "undead grasp" count as a fire spell?

covert wolf
next dust
covert wolf
next dust
#

fire? blood? typeless?

wise heron
fluid fable
#

Idk, typeless mayve

#

Unless demonics a thing

next dust
#

this shouldnt say "powered staff" so normal spellbook can make use of it

wise heron
covert wolf
#

gonna need to go wintertodt after i'm done with spending all of my plank

next dust
#

why does this have to suffer

covert wolf
#

there still isn't any dedicated wintertodt world right?

wise heron
next dust
#

try 666 or 401

potent quail
next dust
#

idk just why not hah

#

they regenerate runes

potent quail
#

normal spellook already regens 7+ runes each

wise heron
#

you can already regenerate runes with different pacts on normal spells though

next dust
#

"Whenever you regenerate runes, also regenerate one water trune"

wise heron
#

you really want to spend a whole pact to regenerate a single extra rune

next dust
#

yes

covert wolf
next dust
#

thats entirely how this works

potent quail
next dust
#

but if im building around Undead Grasp

potent quail
next dust
#

it's only going to regen Fire and Blood

wise heron
covert wolf
#

think i should make few poh tablet for faster traveling

fluid fable
#

I love bank tele relic

shrewd ermine
#

what order should I fight the echo bosses in if I have TKM?

covert wolf
#

eye has bank tele too

fluid fable
#

Yeh but a little less versatile for skilling

wise heron
#

i don't have T but from what i hear you probably want to wait until you have prayer pen pacts

shrewd ermine
potent quail
loud beacon
#

dont bother with CG until you have 100% prayer pen

shrewd ermine
#

I did gauntlet early. blitzed through it with 75%

potent quail
shrewd ermine
#

actually blitzed is a strong word lol

potent quail
#

no it is correct

#

it is insanely fast

shrewd ermine
#

yeah but it took me a while to learn it XD

potent quail
#

i think people do t2 staff and no armor as the normal build

shrewd ermine
#

ive never done gauntlet in MG

fluid fable
#

Im 2 lvls off thermy

potent quail
#

same

#

well i need toXD i am right nxt to it

shrewd ermine
#

where do I fight amox?

potent quail
#

i am to bad for thermy
i just cant click the right button

shrewd ermine
#

and is that something I have to learn the mechanics of?

wise heron
#

echo thermy isn't hard without prayer pen but it is tedious

potent quail
fluid fable
shrewd ermine
potent quail
#

echo amox is a really fun fight though, can really recommend

fluid fable
#

Its a mega quick ome tho

potent quail
fluid fable
#

I love echo amox ye

potent quail
#

normal amox to

#

great boss

next dust
#

actually i can!

fluid fable
#

One of my fave bosses now

next dust
#

Toxic staff of the dead DOES have charges

fluid fable
loud beacon
#

enrage phase on echo thermy is easier than the non-enrage phase if u got water healing

fluid fable
#

Less keen on that one

next dust
#

that can autocast undead grasp

#

the build is possible

potent quail
shrewd ermine
#

quest helper plugin my beloved blobcatloveuwu

fleet anvil
#

non-soul harvest people - best way to train rc/prayer? is it just collecting bones and transmuting for prayer and transmuting runes to essence on zmi for rc?

next dust
#

unfortunately the spell is typeless tho

fluid fable
#

Ye, i spose. She's got value or whatever as a boss. Just not my fave

shrewd ermine
#

i can't believe I did mourning end part 2 and song of elves without plugins once upon a time

next dust
#

elementalless?

fluid fable
#

I think its the rocks more than anything

#

She spawns those sbitty rocks with a delay, so u just stare at them for a bit

wise heron
fluid fable
#

Why do that

#

Dont do that

loud beacon
wise heron
#

or pick up bone spawns

loud beacon
#

sounds slow

wise heron
#

or unlock imp and bring him with you to every slayer task

potent quail
fleet anvil
#

and for rc? just bring a load of base runes and transmute to essence at zmi basically?

wise heron
#

you transmute to noted essence so that doesn't really work

loud beacon
#

cant comment on rc, i reloaded into soul harvest

#

300m xp/hr at ourania altar

shrewd ermine
potent quail
shrewd ermine
#

almost going to be two DECADES

surreal kiln
#

2037

fluid fable
#

I have gotr, it wasnt too bad to get to like 70 there

next dust
#

heres the concept at 40pts for the "Undead Grasp" build Lol

fluid fable
#

Idk if i want to go any further tho

wise heron
#

penguin questline got continued in rs3, become an rs3 player if you want your penguin closure

next dust
#

some wasted points but

shrewd ermine
next dust
#

well not really

#

the spell is elementless

#

so theres no point taking those

surreal kiln
#

it doesnt look to bad sure

#

but

#

what does it even do

next dust
#

actually no Toxic staff of the dead IS a charged staff?

potent quail
surreal kiln
#

๐Ÿคฃ

wise heron
#

wait, can you get ranged echoes with magic if you have those pacts

next dust
#

so it gets the charged spell cast boost

shrewd ermine
#

yeah im being a bit silly. don't you get that thing from Kandarin echo that let's you ignore elements or something?

next dust
#

why not

shrewd ermine
#

maybe im tripping

potent quail
next dust
#

Toxic Staff of the Dead

potent quail
#

i dont see the build
how do you trigger ranged echo?

next dust
#

does regenerating runes not count as regenerating ammo?

wise heron
#

no

potent quail
shrewd ermine
next dust
#

huh

potent quail
#

but i think thats bugged

fluid fable
#

They wouldnt of gone out of there way to state both runes and whatever they say for projectiles, if they were considered tbe same

next dust
#

would we be using Blue Moon or Toxic Staff of the Dead?

#

cause i have asgarnia and prif

#

i can get that

potent quail
#

blue moon set gives 1 free mellee attack if you cast undead grasp

#

thats why it works

#

but i think they never fixed it

#

so doesnt work

fluid fable
#

Im so confused why undying grasp is being cast at all tbh

next dust
#

why not

fluid fable
#

Iv used that spell, shit stinks

cyan cobalt
#

Alright echo thermy is a bit rough lol

potent quail
# fluid fable Im so confused why undying grasp is being cast at all tbh

Frostweaver: Gives the Blue moon spear a chance to melee attack instantly, without any action delays, after the player casts a spell that would bind, freeze or root a target.

20% chance to occur after successfully casting a Bind spell from the Standard spellbook or an Ice spell from the Ancient spellbook, even if it does not bind a target.

** 50% chance to occur after successfully casting a Grasp spell from the Arceuus spellbook, even if it does not bind a target.**

fluid fable
#

Quarter of a second stun that does fuck all dmg

next dust
#

idk why but that undead grasp can hit things during immunity phases

#

including moons

fluid fable
#

Ic

#

Weird

wise heron
#

seems underwhelming

next dust
#

gotta manually cast feor that tho

surreal kiln
#

is undead grasp actually not a meme way to deal dmg?

potent quail
#

its a build i theorized very early on

that uses EVERY pact mechanic on the entire tree
in 1 attack

(except thorns)

surreal kiln
#

only thing you benefit is fire capstone isnt it tho

next dust
#

24 Base max hit

#

i dont even think it counts as a fire spell lol

potent quail
#

non blue moon set?
probably a meme

next dust
#

full crystal with the echo?

wise heron
#

fire capstone wouldn't do anything for undead grasp because it's not a fire spell

next dust
#

and toxic staff of the dead

surreal kiln
#

elemental synergy is too much of a good thing

next dust
#

but i wonder vs bosses like vardorvis

#

is he unable to move?

surreal kiln
#

fire hits like a truck and applies burn + the dagger benefits

next dust
#

cause of how fast were casting it

surreal kiln
#

he always moves

fluid fable
#

Probably not

next dust
#

we'll trigger the bind over and over

surreal kiln
#

he actually runs with you XD

wise heron
#

i have tried magic at vardorvis, you'll be lucky to hit him at all

surreal kiln
#

and if he cant reach you in a tick

#

he spawns spike under you

potent quail
#

36 max hit isnt to bad

surreal kiln
#

it isnt good either

wise heron
#

maybe i'm just spoiled by my build but 36 feels really low to me

next dust
#

this thing seems worth wasting pacts tor each hah

surreal kiln
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its just FINE

wise heron
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i regularly hit 100+

fluid fable
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Mm, seems decent. Gl, hope it works out well for u

summer verge
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Is there gear set from Barrows that is good for mage/better than mystic set?

potent quail
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the problem is the refreeze immunity

summer verge
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ty

potent quail
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4 ticks freeze into 2 ticks unfreezable is not the best gameplay

fluid fable
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Good for kiting

next dust
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does grasp even have a refreeze immunity tho

surreal kiln
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jsut use ice at that point

fluid fable
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Ye it shows it there

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1.2 seconds

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With a chance to just not bind as well

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Which is a bit rood

potent quail
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its 100% if you ahve the mark

surreal kiln
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mark of dankness allows

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100% ye

fluid fable
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R u sure?

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Maybe i just missed the attack entirely

surreal kiln
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yes its written below it

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๐Ÿคฃ

potent quail
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or entangle lol

fluid fable
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Iv def cast grasp with darkness up and not binded tho

potent quail
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could be because of the refreeze?
no idea never used a grasp spell

fluid fable
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I think i probably hit a 0

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Was a while ago

surreal kiln
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neither tbh

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its way too a fringe of a spell

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I dont know where would I even use it

fluid fable
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It has one verg specific use case

surreal kiln
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only thing that come to me is muspah if you on arceus without powerstaff

potent quail
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man i really hope they will fix blue moon blindbag T.T

that was the build i was most hyped around

fluid fable
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One of the requests that yama gives u is using a binding spell on black demons

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So i was bonking em down with demon bane and then grasping

surreal kiln
fluid fable
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It kinds sucks

wise heron
fluid fable
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But its better than nothing if u dont have gorillas

surreal kiln
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I still lack heavy frame so I keep doing gorrilas and watching my extra zenyte shards in my bank

potent quail
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which also sucks

surreal kiln
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this reminded me I need 2nd monkey tail so gonna do hunting for it I guess ๐Ÿ˜ซ

covert wolf
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ok i just leave him for 1 day and wtf...

surreal kiln
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yeah he goes crazy

covert wolf
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this should be easy 50m

surreal kiln
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๐Ÿคฃ

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oh Actually thanks for suggestion

potent quail
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wtf is this clog

covert wolf
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maybe crafting is the fastest one he can do

surreal kiln
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you had it on flax or planks

potent quail
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oh yeah crafting is insane

covert wolf
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flax

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back to planks

potent quail
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you got tyr?

covert wolf
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nah

potent quail
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then yeah thats how you get crafting then

covert wolf
surreal kiln
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ye its like 6M a day

covert wolf
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training crafting without actually touching crafting

surreal kiln
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Ill get to 50M that way

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same

potent quail
surreal kiln
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I thank my butler

covert wolf
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i might be touching herblore later

potent quail
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99 you can completly do with butler

covert wolf
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i have all the stuff

next dust
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imo potion storage is worth it

surreal kiln
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mixology is nice points

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ye

next dust
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even if not worth points

surreal kiln
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I did potion storage just for the DECANTING

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because holy shit

covert wolf
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mixology kinda ehhhhhh

next dust
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peanut butter flavoured bubblegum
vs
bubblegum flavoured peanut butter

covert wolf
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just these left to get

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still a lot points tho

surreal kiln
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the barrel is 200

tacit oyster
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outfit you can sell back after equipping

surreal kiln
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and 50 goading another 30 oor 80

next dust
surreal kiln
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aswell with 100 Prayer regen

next dust
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you need the full outfit tho dont forget

potent quail
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yeah but do that one before chugging barrel

covert wolf
surreal kiln
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it was fine points