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what am i looking at here?
Lazy
eww dupe already
Imagine not taking soul harvest
I doubt i can altar boost it
U can
imagine training rc on league
Doubt
It stack w the 16x rate
Just turn em into bone shards?
It specifically gets boosts by 3x on buries
You're really a fan huh
im running out of juice for this demon cup
9x would be silly
im not even a blindbagger and i still think the mushroom is the best relic in the game
you're just jealous of my devotion to the mushroom
What does mushroom have to do w blindbag
you wouldn't understand
It means you dont carry the dramen staff for negative dmg

O lmao
Mushroom should be a real item
Funny interaction
It fits in main game
But its also just an absolutely goated item
you don't carry the dramen staff because of blindbag interactions
I don't carry the dramen staff because I fucking walk everywhere
we are not the same
Fairy Tale Pt5: Mycelial Complaints reward
Why pt 5
What happened to 3 and 4
Because its a joke
I mean iv been thinking about it. And it legitamately is fine for main game
Enjoy
gotta build up to an item that OP or else the community will nuke itself for the 15th time this decade
Being able to teleport to every patch is ridiculously OP and doesn't fit
Bank heist has teleport options that are literally right next to a fairy ring, so mushroom felt obsolete to me
It still takes up the inv slot. So say ur using a tp to salve, all it does is save u 3 seconds
Its more than fairy rings
its any spirit tree, any tool lep, and access to fairy rings any time at all time
rs3 doesn't even have infinite tps to fairy rings
Ahh
its ungodly op
Taking up a single inventory slot isn't a good balancing mechanic
like a solid 15/10 relic choice on its own
Yeh omay. Lmao its a lil op
it has a cost to use tp to fairy rings but that's a whole nother beast
oh and its not even an invent slot
I thought it was just fairy rings
you can equip that shit
hold the mushroom like ice cream cone
Oki. Well lets nerf it down to only dramen staff 2, and put it in main
why
I have become a mushroomancer
Coz its just nice to save 3 seconds of nothing walking
it also saves a whole multiple days of questing to get the lumbridge elite diary
Doesnt save an inv slot. So therefor its not a power spike at all, just a qol upgrade
it's qol but it's not healthy

And it makes old methods obselete, something this game doesnt take well to
No, coz its dra 2. Just make it so u still need dramen staff equipped. Or no dra when u have elite diary
sidegrades are the language of updates
Simple
This game exists because tens of thousands of autistic adults couldnt handle change. Do not change the way they do their farm runs, they will find you, and they will hurt you
The "old method" teleporting to salve and walking for 5 seconds for no reason
You mean ardy cloak, surely
ok so it invalidates the 95 con grind for a fairy ring / spirit tree combo
Idk i barely use it
every "qol" change reaches a lot farther than people expect
Tbh i actually tp to ge when i wanna fairy ring
You mean poh surely
Right, so youre advocating for a major game change with 0 thought behind it based on something you got in an intentionally broken game mode
Coz thats just the tab i always have on me
moving on
but yeah, sure, if you think it's a good idea, I'll be glad to vote on it
Also, it's a teleport to any fairy ring, so it's a time save using it etc
Fastest no of my life 
Makes fairy rings go from a transport system to a lode network essentially
I did think about it. Its the same amount of inventory spaces. So shouldnt matter
I wonder if anybody's ever suggest War's Retreat Teleport as a qol update
Milk thinks of nothing beyond their 28 slots and I respect it
instant free teleport to a bank and nardah altar
The level of devotion to his backpack is legendary man
"I should be able to teleport to any tile in the game! It takes up an inventory slot so it's fine"
I only mean as exactly fairy rings. I didnt know about all the other the real one does
"I spent 1/28th of my carrying capacity, so teleporting to every major area in the game is a fair trade!"
We are memeing you based on the only fairy rings proposal
dont worry
we understand
Its litterally the same tho. If u carry a dramen staff and a tele to ur closest ring then this item is still carrying a dramen staff, and is instead in itself, the teleport to the closest ring
The only change is u walk 5 less seconds every now and then
That's the wrong definition of "literally"
Basically
and im literally the president of the USA, I just need to move there, get citizenship, get an education in politics, and plan a campaign
literally bro
We've said it a few times if you can't see the difference then it's on you 
Fine, ig
The point we are making is that what you are calling a small QoL change powered by this item actually skips over or invalides a pretty substantial amount of travel unlocks via quest unlocks and such, as well as massively devalues an elite diary, and probably a bunch more stuff. I can understand that in the 1 situation you considered before dying on this hill for this idea, it seemed balanced. But that kind of mentality gets you RS3 very, very quickly. This game is a quarter century old, nothing is ever that simple sadly
finallyyy
It doesnt have to devalue the diary at all. It can still be limited to needing dramen staff if u dont have diary
i hate the MTA
you say that like runescape isn't built around incremental upgrades to repeated cycles
a few seconds saved from a five minute run is only a few seconds, but when you do that run hundreds, if not thousands of times...
how long?
all the MTA tasks only take like 4 hours combined
Well ye
and they give a SHIT ton of points
4 hours, yeah
But to me that sounds like the goal
that is 4 more hours than I am willing to spend at MTA 
the only MTA room I dislike is the alchemy room
and guess what! as one of the four people who picked Flow State, I was delightfully surprised to discover that Flow State does not work when casting alchemy spells in MTA
It's so so bad
Surely Jagex fix
If my regions are Kand/Mory/Desert, is my best shot at a visage 1/2k from mith drags?
Deserved for picking flowstate honestly
I stand by my decision
I respect your commitment in the face of logic. Your conviction is admirable
Flowstate feels like itd of been good as like a t1 or 2 relic
^
I got melted by lizardmen shaman in CoX just now where my buddy with the same build was fine, any idea what happened?
Its just very late to be getting a skilling relic tho
Even a T3/4, but putting it against reload was such a piss take
wildy task so easy
T6 star in front of MTA at 592 btw
the only thing that could compete with it in terms of usefulness is Soul Harvest for RC, but the time saved by skipping RC wouldn't even come close to the time I've already saved because of Flow State
Flow state could have been built into barb relic and nobody would have noticed
if i didn't ely in the next 100kc i'll cry
Honestly ye, maybe
Record it
Rc is pretty fast any way, at least if ur only doing it for xp
Id hate to actually need the runes i make
omfg after all that MTA i still didn't get 94 magic for ice barrage
can master wand autocast standard?
[[Dragon hai]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dagon'hai
I still dont know what it is ๐คฃ
[[master wand]]
Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Master_wand
Yes, can auto cast norm, ancient, and arceeus
ty
truth be told, after 5 seconds of no one answering i already searched the wiki anyway
, but i appreciate your effort
anyone with abundance want to share their strats for mining, fishing, and wc?
are you guaranteed a rare from CoX challenge mode similar to how you're essentially guranteed a rare on ToB hard mode?
just say that you don't have EH
Also question-I know it is possible to do Mahogany Homes without Asgarnia but is it possible to access the rewards shop for it without Asgarnia?
it is not
what's your region?
just higher chance not really guaranteed
No
wild, mory, asg. i was thinking iron ore, teaks on karamja, and idk what fish
CoX chest mechanics are very weird, a consequence of it being the first raid and the devs not really knowing what they were doing with it
iirc it's actually impossible to get guaranteed purples from CoX in any context
in 6 man average party sometimes you have 5 people getting purple and sometimes you have 2 people getting purple
mining can always go star
wc is enough at auburnvale
get yer fishin to 85 then you can start afk at wildy crab
abundance is like the least best option now that i think of it
im trying to not afk anything if i can get 3m an hour from an active route
everyone know what EH capable of
and barbarian have knapsack which is like a bigger space and can always dispose all the stuff
2t gem mining it is then
so active one ehh
there's not much option on fishing honestly
i think iron ore is also your best bet
teak at karamja if you know the 2t trick
i guess you have everything you ask for one the right spot
it's kinda slight different if you have barbarian
stars and calcified is way more faster exp than iron
barbarian perk
man I look so strange lol. infernal cape, maxed treads, conflictions and full mystic lol
idk how it goes without barbarian honestly
slowly
but with barbarian you can see the exp coming in between 2-5 tick
how much hp does echo dusk have? i am understanding it's not 450
cuz this mf takes soo much damage
1080
The Echo Grotesque Guardians are an Elite difficulty variant of the Grotesque Guardians that is accessible during the Demonic Pacts League. To fight them the player must have a Morytania echo orb in their inventory when entering the Slayer Tower roof entrance in Morytania, dropped by the normal Grotesque Guardians at a rate of 1/30. A brittle ke...
ty xD
how many amoxliatl kills for the echo item? im at 20 just wondering
is zulrah the best source of magic seeds if u dont have transmute with tirr/asg/kand?
Exp wasting in leagues by making a bank layuout for farming
(not done yet and i have others kinda done too)
I was exp wasting earlier by spending like 90 minutes trying to figure out the projectile system in the Weapon Animation Replacer plugin
idk where to place these yet
teak and mahogany is hardwood
I eventually gave up upon realizing that I could not get it work with temporary items like the Shadowflame quadrant
why they are not with the other tree
wait idk why flax is alone
anyway, i should do more tasks
projectiles are not animations but objects that are caused by a weapon so you would have to change the weapon i guess or animation to the other weapon
hi this is my first time playing rs, can i ask gearing questions here?
Does being on task make a draconic visage more likely to drop?
this is most likely because the object that flies towards the enemy has data like the amount of damage while a animation does not
You can, but if you are playing the main game and not the limited time gamemode that is the League, Id suggest going over to #game-questions
ight ty
yes its a league question
Fire away then
I have glance at animation replacer plugin
ok jagex, the 150 vardorvis dry meme can stop now
just have not looked into it too much
Jokes on you, its actually a 326 vardorvis dry meme, you just havent gotten there yet
it's โจ fucky โจ
In order for projectile swapping to actually work, you (apparently) need to use the plugin to transmog an item into itself, then apply custom data to that transmog
The input slot can grab from your equipment, so you can just slap the quadrant in there, but the output slot requires a search input, and the shadowflame quadrant simply doesn't appear in the provided list due to how new it is
and, as far as I'm aware, projectiles are animations
a lot of things are animations
Wouldnt the projectile be the object, and the animation an effect of said object?
https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=InfinitySuitCertificate
this is my gear rn, im running a kings barrage build. what gear should i be looking to get? whats the bis im chasing after?
I can try to change my toxic to soemthing else and see if i can make it work
behind the scenes, the projectile itself is just an animation being move along a specific path (usually a downward arc from a set start height to a set end height)
you know those kamikaze scarabs in the ToA Kephri fight? Those are actually just two animations, one for the scarab flying at you and another for the scarab exploding
(because of this, you can use the plugin to make a bow that shoots those scarabs instead of arrows... when the plugin is working, at least)
whats my best afk wc xp?
*(I say "animations" but I believe these are actually referred to as GFX))
with endless harvest? Teaks
lmao my bro was having the same issue trying to anim swap quadrent since the bouncing water surges were making it hard to see doom projectiles
asking this again
pretty much
assuming you also don't have woodsman
your other choices are more or less Kraken or Thermy, both of which are rarer than 1/100 for 1 seed
Vale Totems would also be pretty good
since you get x8 offerings
so the gauntlet and everything is just completely rng right
got it at 32. dope tyty
infernal tecpatl seem kinda butts lol
maybe good for eclipse boss?
i got it to work @smoky raft
hmm but without shield no thorns
using toxic
seems like useless item guess at least got pact
is this replacing the actual projectile data though or just swapping all (attack) animations to shadow
swapping animation
oh, make your own?
well, assemble it from existing pieces
well that would need to change the plugin, it does not support a custom spell
if you click the little pencil icon next to an animation swap you can see all the fucky details
still all from the game just changed values
like size of the shadow projectile
That tornado is not a projectile from any castable spell, it's an animation from somewhere else in the game
that's what I'm trying to do, essentially
I'll give it another try tomorrow
never said it had to be a spell
... what exactly do you think I am trying to do
I think that's where the miscommunication is happening here
does shadowflame quadrant benefit from the powered staffs sped up by 3 sticks pact?
it's not a powered staff
so no
it autocasts combat spells do it does benefit from the 2 tick faster combat spells pact
ok cool thanks
is there a way to have picked up runes by minion go in the rune pouch?
since we cant visit lumbridge for the mage tutor
is it even worth the effort to max?
Like this, shadow shooting spears?
or giant blobs
Jagek, I would like to appologize for complaining earlier about 150 dry vardorvis. If I had known you would have let me get to 200 dry, I would have been more appreciative.
As someone whos never even made it to triple jads, how hard is getting an inferno cape going to be with a watermage thorns setup?
my friend is going to do the tripple jad CA and he is failing the defeat each one with a different combat style one, it is failing when he attacks the second one weather he starts with his magic ranged or melee for his first, he doesnt have a shield and his echo boots and suffering are disabled so there is no reflect damage
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I watched EVscape literally afk the inferno with water mage thorns
is there anything we are missing
so hopefully not too hard

did melee only inferno without any melee pacts, thorns overheal + abyssal tentacle. You'll be fine
just change this
This is the loadout atm, coping at mithril dragons atm for a visage
As someone who hasnt done osrs pvm before, piss easy
Took me 2 attempts
phosani nightmare with water thorns is uhh...huh.
No idea how you're supposed to do enrage phase
Best I got is a swap to lithic sceptre or maybe a melee weapon? But god a 900 magic defense really is just the middle finger
oh lmao
How long was it
Like an hour or smth but i was playing more careful than full afk
See how it is with the jad challenges @up to 3.
Did you do the full thing, like freeze nibs and all that jaz?
it was easy af. I did up to 5 already, just got bored and stopped
but also nothing will kill you outside of magers if you're not praying mage and/or triple jads.
I didnt have ancients, but i tried to keep my pillars alive
Pact point at 6. You should be fine then if it's that easy.
Pact point at the leagues only challenge at 6*
I thought it was a pact point to do the special chal, not 6
and special chal is much different that just 6 jads
Mainly cause mage/ranger at the same time scared me after killing me on first attempt
and honestly that makes it easier
From what ive seen, looks like a lot more pressure
nope.
if you're mage + thorns
the extra adds actually help you survive better
because they randomly tick heal you
I would say the scariest wave is maybeeeeeee the mage wave?
but otherwise it's basically just 6 jads, but longer.
(Because the jads heal to full per wave)
everything else suicides on your thorns and dies
Ill get around to it someday if i can be bothered then. Ill keep trying for the visage for a while, Im at 183kc now, prob go to 250 or 300 tonight and then call it
Like the only reason I even struggled is that I'm just bad at prayer flicking.
...well also until I did Jad I had
like 2 accuracy nodes
don't try to do it with 65% accuracy
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Stay strong. 5188kc no visage yet for me
i currently have 0 lg acc nodes
was the same
are ankous the fastest way to farm these?
it's a really awful feeling when uh, you fail to heal because your water spells splash for like twenty seconds straight

I'm going to just send inferno in the morning for my next pact point
fuck phosani's nightmare lmao
Awe hell naw. If I hit droprate without it, im just letting it die
I only really get to play a good bit on weekends, weekdays I work overtime almost every day and have family stuff besides
why does this shit haunts me even in leagues
this is the least fun content grind for irons already
50% extra
because combat no
extra 1.5x multiplier for combat
My iron acc got rangers on my 14th clue, before I had even drom frem trials 
50% extra what
Prayer is a combat skill, 24x
oh
Im 400+ deep on iron
without

its shit grind
Skill issue
its not fun
just look for the green colored boots
but I signed up for it
according to wiki prayer is not a combat skill sometimes
just get them
lmao
Combat skill is anything that increases your combat level
For example slayer isn't a combat skill, even tho many think it is.
And yet there are "combat skill" xp lamps from quests that can give slayer xp
The fact the game allows you to spend it on slayer doesn't immediatly translate that it is a combat skill ๐
Each "generation" of devs at jagex seemed to have had a different take on what was and wasnt a combat skill, based losely on "it relates vaguely to combat" or "its tied directly to your combat level", alternating
Im of the opinion that it should only be skills impacting combat level personally, but 
Just keep reopening the casket until it gives you what you want
any good sources of antipoison better than karamja shop?
is there some world or area where people do the forestry tasks
World 666 for anything mass.
ty
have people found that hunter is reliable source for magic seeds?
im at 20 seeds through 631 kc zulrah wondering if its way more common doing hunter
Hunter gives herb seeds through woodsman, I don't think it supplies any tree seeds?
traps always drop a random herb seed or tree seed when harvested
There's some sort of bug going on at phosani's nightmare with fire mage where I'm able to get burn to tick on her HP bar while she's supposed to be invuln during pillar phase... I'm getting red hitsplats for burn instead of burn hitsplats, and if I manage to have it happen before desperation phase, I just totally skip the desperation phase. My pb is 4:07 because of the desperation skip
Probably way more from Zulrah, haven't got many from hunter myself
I can't seem to figure out the exact conditions for causing the burn to tick on her actual hp bar. it's so weird.
best rate without transmute would probably be lvl90+ fletching vale totems or revenants
honestly might be worth it to augment with crystal tree since i have priff
just farm hunnleff for seeds that i can then turn to acorns
Tried splashing from pillars onto boss, tried splashing from the 2 little guys, tried splashing from the bug, none of that was it... so it might be some sort of timing thing with transitioning from shield hp to invuln pillar phase
41 acorn seeds needed to get from 88 to 99, just get 20 or so seeds and then i should have enough magic seeds as is (15) to get me to 99
What's your areas?
what are eazy zam items to feed the minion? regions are CG, mortaniya, kandarin
Probably gonna be clue scroll rewards tbh
finally.
Now you get to play the game
first and last time i go for dragon tbh ๐
enjoyed the league overall though
is that just gonna be robe top and legs
yeah just top and bottom
does zamorak warrior or mages inside zeah drop any more
gz you nerd
kzw
how many days are left for league
39
whats it called
You definitely can.. Just means you need to do things you might not particularly enjoy
why doesnt minion whistle count as a Zamorak item in GWD?
is getting 25m prayer glitched? at 26m but cant trigger task
bury a bonee normally?
You have to equip an item for it to count
tried ๐
yh but they could make it so
they have control over that

buried a bone, scattered ashes, offered blessed + sunfire at libation bowel
Open your areas / relic menu
already done all that + logged in and out too ๐ข
It will apply sooner or later, had that happen to me aswell with slayer
if im on a "tzhaar" task, does that work in inferno?
similarly, if I upgrade it to a jad task, does that work on the jads in inferno?
You have to pick Zuk. It gives you a prompt.
No, Jad in Inferno is not the same mob.
rip
TzTok-Jad is Fire Cape, JalTok-Jad is Infernal Cape.
Just green logged moons !!! Finally
5550 kc, 25/26 ancient pages, fullhelm, visage dropped. It is over bois
Oh no, what was the wall?
@glass onyx did you ever get slayer issue sorted? Same boat ๐
can i view progress on a league task?
No
For the hunt X chinchillas you just need to count them
Man echo hunleff can be pretty frustrating towards the end lol. Depending on what the tiles end up looking like. But I think I end up liking it just because of the fact that theres no prep time
It's somewhere else
i checked
biblia said its in this room only and i also checked each shelf in the room
i legit am confused
ok you know what can i hop worlds
If I get Ice Warriors as first task with only Karamja Mory and varlamore unlcoked am I soft locked slayer?
Did you finish final dawn quest
Wait I'm wrong sorry
They're in the amox dungeon
both are same drop rate and i only need the claw 
so thermy is barely a boss with thorns/lithic sceptre lol
It took me like 270 kills or something to get zulrahs fang the other day. Got 4 or 5 of every other drop before it gave it to me
what thieving method is best gp/hr? is it elves in priff?
took me 340 kc to get fang from zulrah. now im farming her for magic seed and she dropped 4 in 50 kc lmfao
Did you pick transmute? Can get some from transmuting acorns etc
no
Yeah transmute's the way to go for sure
thats why im farming zulrah
How does imbueing a recoil work on the league? Am I really meant to afk nmz?
At the nmz?
yeah talk to the floating dude
amazing
King's barrage heal doesn't work on olm? I'm only getting healed like threes and fours, even on range phase/mage hand
are pet drop rates same as base game?
yes
if one were to pickpocket for gp using larceny, which npc yields the highest coin amount?
elves
elves but have to sell a lot of the drops to karamja general store
Oh so it depends on the sale of the noted loot?
ive completed 10 colosseums and still only like 50k sunfire splinters
why is it so hard
isnt it like 40+ colosseum clears for blessed quiver
thats rough
Man I genuinely hate slayer grinds
Is master mixology worth?
If you don't have the farming perk I think it is. I was skimping on very few herbs and it helped me get the most out of them
I guess if you're a baller bosser that has tons of herb drops maybe not
Herbs really arent a problem for me but the secondary ingredients kinda are
Just gonna have to grind it out
depends on the secondary
how is echo thermy compared to other echo bosses
mastering mixology is nice for point rewards, 10% secondary save goggles and potion storage so dont need to decant potions manually
snape grass is so easy to get
easy and a bit tedious imo. Requires frequent but small bursts of accurate and fast clicks, and the fight feels very drawn out. you just walk around him in a circle over and over and over and then he dies
this is leagues, if you have transmute then you can get secondaries easy
like superior dragon bones
limpwurt
for me herbs are the main issue, 10-15k herbs for 50m xp 
Yeah herbs are my issue for sure
i can transmute seeds to always get dwarfweed which lowers the herbs needed a lot but still have to farm thousands of them
if you have transmute and want herbs just pickpocket master farmer
Yeah actually, super Def pots it is
Honestly that just sounds like my strat for phase 2 of echo ggs lol
or echo ggs as a whole with melee
another easy secondary you can get is these
ty jagex for forestry worlds what would i ever do without them
yew roots
and make antitdote ++
birds nests spawns all the time while woodcutting
Why is it that with Echo Hunleff, you're either going to have a nice easy time. Or get raked over hard?
It do be like that
I just really hate this boss. I'm just venting. I'm bad at the game. And I know it. And tbh I'm just glad I'm able to beat him some of the time. But god damn is it annoying when there's like 12 tornados on screen and the floors keep changing and my prayer gets turned off when I don't see it
Just need 1 more armor seed and I can be done
Gl
what's the meaning of scrape?
Just get some scaly blue dhide from a blue dragon and use a knife on it
Semi rare drop from blues
1/50 and it took me 234 to get it
https://gyazo.com/fcb0e27e38e5d86e9865c020da7b5241
Why aint i slappijng them back?
how tf am i supposed to do this gang meeting diary requirement if there are no gang meetings
gagek really
oh mate we gonna start a gang?
talk to the guy in shayzen? he tells you when the next one is
i wonder if i can get access to lunar spell from max cape if i don't have fremmenik unlocked
yeah i got one for now
just gotta wait for a bit till they spawn
kinda sucks every 30min like crystal imps but whatever
yeah
Uno, like. Scrape it
you get lunars from unlocking kandarin but since you said max cape i'm assuming you don't have kand
The classic use for hides, we all know what it is
How is thermy compared to hunleff?
Kinda chill
i think echo hun is easier then echo thermyXD
I base it on my friend having existtential crisis while doing hunleff ( or rather hunleff doing him)
(i have 1 tick pstaff and 75% prayer pen)
Right now I'm the one having an existential crisis lol. Like enough that I'm about to start hitting things irl lol. I think its mostly because I can't bring my build into the fight, and thats really frustrating. But if I have to do all of this for thermy again I might lose it lol
wdym?
I'm just tryna play league not mess around with yama
. Can we just get fking dupe protection.
i feel that
i made it to top 3 whisperer kills trying to get one single piece of virtus
but i got almost 6 bellator rings
I just wanna get done with yama so I can do some cox. Stuck with yama for 2 days.
what's stopping you from doing cox now
thing is I already made 9 infernal plate so I can complete the full oathplate for pact point. I just need either body or helm then i'm done. dont wanna keep it hanging
I'm actually laughing so hard. Got my 3rd armor seed from hunleff. Thanked the gods and left to craft my armor, to find out that it takes 6 pieces in all. Figured it was just one per. Guess it makes since. Guess I'm going back to hunleff.... God I hate that fight
well it will get easier, you doing acho hunleff?
This is my first leagues, but I also haven't done any bossing/raids etc at all on my main char (I stopped playing at around '07, Barrows had just released IIRC and I never got to that level). What regions should I go for? Looking at ones that might not need a perfect build as much as others (currently still doing Varlamore tasks, and probably going to go 1h melee + thorns)
pretty sure barrows came out in 2005 actually
Echo hunleff makes me want to gauge my eyeballs out lol. I'm sure I'd get it super fast if I did echo. But I spend about the same amount of time as normal cg just dying over and over until I win one. So might as well go back to cg where its 100% completion for me at least
relic choices matter a lot also.
i recommend KTZ or KTM
Kandarin is very cool this league, contining one of the best echo items
Tyr is just a cool region and has easy tasks to get the last region and helps witha few skills
Z is Kourend M is morytiana (both contain a raid, you want 1 raid region atleast)
yeah kandarin is goated region
1h mellee is not the strongest build
but for that: your endgame is aby whip and tentacle whip and (optional) the echo 1h weapon from cerberus (forgot which region that is)
asgarnia
asgarnia
the asgarnia dagger is pretty nice tbh
Idk how i feel about giant foundry
Its not bad and yet i kinda hate it
I feel it could be a bit stronger
how well does crystal armor work with 1h weapon?
echo blessing does allow it 
Its like, maybe even good. But something bugs me
yeah it does feel like that
but also its tick faster than anything else
I've still got pact resets , but I'm also not deep into pacts anwyay (2 points used)
Innit
so 1. dont touch pact resets till 10 points
I wish dogger had more proc chance for the fire
I've been having fun exploring Varlamore tbh
this is my opinion on pact resets
can they just give us unlimited resets thanks
no
Yeah just give more resets ffs
limited time game mode who cares
Blindbags good except for the fact its a bit weird, theres a few different bugs its got going on
maybe last week of a league I wouldnt mind
infinite resets are bad design as was 3rd league
relics no reset only pacts
pacts are half of the spice
its like you would make a meat and spiced it with just salt or pepper
not both
only one of them
this is my recommended pact path for early game for literally anyone
the node where the arrow points to is the important one, if you get that one you need to decide if you want to go for the mastery/prayer regen on block
or get your other halve of the build first (in your case 1h mellee). i do recommend getting these 2 at some point, (i took them first)
limited resets with no way of earning more is bad design too
well it depends on the player, some players burn trough them the moment they get them and dont really plan
a way to earn extra one on some very hard content or when reaching Dcup or something would be nice
I havent used a single one yet and I can pretty much do everything I want to 
i am still pro more reset:
in my case i say time based:
to the 5 we have: 1 free reset every week (does not stack)
yes
Idk how people are so stressed about them tbh
this allows players when they are done with the league
to come back a week later and try out a build they havent tried yet
I used one mid fight cave coz 5s an absolute abundancr
and still commits people to the pacts they choose
league is about fun maxing. limiting resets isnโt fun.
Limiting resets make build diversity -> More fun
unlimiting resets -> Less diversity -> Less fun
Part of the fun is trying to max out on what u actually have access to
I believe they just want us to use different accounts and that's why it's limited
Not just. Welp time to be too strong for this boss now instead
I think what limited respecs do is really make u fomo urself into trying content u might not do if u had limited resets
you dont need a cookie cutter for each boss you need to do
Coz like. U know ull suck for it after u leave ur build behind. So gotta try it now
whats the best combat xp/hr? just afking at king sand crabs?
ppl taht complain about lack of resets spec into complete cookie cutters for each content which makes gameplay boring
for defence
what i'm not a fan of is limited regions
Snd thats good. Trying new content is good
that's what Tileman is for
Its litterally never been crabs ever
chunkman?
tilemaster
well it is a interesting point
limitations make games fun, a "you win button" is the least amount of limitation, but no one would like it.
i do think jagex assume every player plans out pacts very well, then 5 resets is plenty, but tons of people who just pick what sounds fun with no thought behind it and needing more resets
thats not region locked
Crabs are for if u wanna be safe too walk away
but im not a Melee build
gridmaster?
but need the def xp
just to get it finished yk
and melee will be the way to get that xp
so i think to AFK crabs?
jsut afk slayer?
Idk what regions u have
yes ofc
But its never crabs
Asg, Zeah, Prif
1 of these skills is not like the others
specifically these
They got 60 hp and ur killing them in 4 seconds
CRAB
despite hating slayer i am probably going to end up getting 50m slayer just from boss tasks
Time to kill is waiting for spawn time
gemstone crab is less combat xp right cause of the xp reduction
im not a melee build
theyre respawning faster than i can kill
Idk what king crab is
O true
Love that bow
i do wish i had infinite goading potions for slayer
anyone here using crystal throne as construction leveling?
how much gp do i need to prep from 95 to 99?
that would make it truly afkable with all my healing
well i am happy i dont have to tray agi
I almost reloaded into iy
youd only need 1 Aldarium
And then ended up with sus instead
reload into friendly forager* ofc
Still trying to get my hands on a angler fish
ive been THINKING to rebuild into an Undead Grasp build LOL
thanks for the advice all
The only way i can get them is as a drop from levi
you will need to build 17 so 255 million
And im struggling
they bossing XD
what we really should be calculating is how much you'd need to go all the way to 99 with nothing but gold sinks
Builds not quite strong enough to make up for me bejng real real bad at it
does "undead grasp" count as a fire spell?
why gold sinks?
i'm numbing over mahogany homes here
fire? blood? typeless?
because that number is probably bigger and big numbers are cooler
this shouldnt say "powered staff" so normal spellbook can make use of it
if it's not a normal spellbook spell, ancient blood spell with the pact, or the cereberus echo weapon, it doesn't count as a fire spell as far as i know]
gonna need to go wintertodt after i'm done with spending all of my plank
why does this have to suffer
there still isn't any dedicated wintertodt world right?
what would normal spellbook be doing that would regenerate charges on a staff
try 666 or 401
well mahogany homes is not the way in leaguesXD unless you cheese it to 1 city
cant you jsut butler the planks and make tables/benches?
normal spellook already regens 7+ runes each
you can already regenerate runes with different pacts on normal spells though
"Whenever you regenerate runes, also regenerate one water trune"
you really want to spend a whole pact to regenerate a single extra rune
yes
yea i need to just turn everything at tables or benches
and let the butler take care of the planks
water surge regens 10 water and 7 air runes each cast
i think the extra one doesnt do muchXD
but if im building around Undead Grasp
if ylou attack every single tick, yes
it's only going to regen Fire and Blood
if you get 150% rune regen you have a 50% chance to regen 20 water runes instead
think i should make few poh tablet for faster traveling
I love bank tele relic
what order should I fight the echo bosses in if I have TKM?
Yeh but a little less versatile for skilling
K first because it has the most OP echo weapon
i don't have T but from what i hear you probably want to wait until you have prayer pen pacts
alright. not at that slayer lv sadly but Im working on that
I already have T
:)
echo amox,
echo M boss
echo Hunleff
Echo thermy
would be my idea
dont bother with CG until you have 100% prayer pen
I did gauntlet early. blitzed through it with 75%
hunleff and thermy both get much easier with 75-100% prayer pen
actually blitzed is a strong word lol
yeah but it took me a while to learn it XD
i think people do t2 staff and no armor as the normal build
ive never done gauntlet in MG
Im 2 lvls off thermy
where do I fight amox?
i am to bad for thermy
i just cant click the right button
and is that something I have to learn the mechanics of?
echo thermy isn't hard without prayer pen but it is tedious
twilight temple
yes
Twiglight temple. Gotta do a quest as well
ah, bad question lol. I have no idea where that is XD
echo amox is a really fun fight though, can really recommend
Its a mega quick ome tho
just do the quest, literally leads you to the boss
I love echo amox ye
actually i can!
One of my fave bosses now
Toxic staff of the dead DOES have charges
Eh
enrage phase on echo thermy is easier than the non-enrage phase if u got water healing
Less keen on that one
its is a very easy boss, but thats by design
it teaches new player precise movement which is super important to learn
quest helper plugin my beloved 
non-soul harvest people - best way to train rc/prayer? is it just collecting bones and transmuting for prayer and transmuting runes to essence on zmi for rc?
unfortunately the spell is typeless tho
Ye, i spose. She's got value or whatever as a boss. Just not my fave
i can't believe I did mourning end part 2 and song of elves without plugins once upon a time
elementalless?
I think its the rocks more than anything
She spawns those sbitty rocks with a delay, so u just stare at them for a bit
i've been doing blood runes in kourend for rc, prayer is just transmuting superior dragon bones and using them on the libation bowl
go kill chickens in tel taklan and transmute up
or pick up bone spawns
sounds slow
or unlock imp and bring him with you to every slayer task
actually the entire varlamore quest line is very well designed and worth reading trough the dialog/trying the puzzles
maybe not in leagues, but if you do it in maingame i recommend turning the quest helper help down and trying most stuff yourself
and for rc? just bring a load of base runes and transmute to essence at zmi basically?
you transmute to noted essence so that doesn't really work
amen
new penguin quest when ๐
when new dwarf quest
almost going to be two DECADES
2037
I have gotr, it wasnt too bad to get to like 70 there
heres the concept at 40pts for the "Undead Grasp" build Lol
Idk if i want to go any further tho
penguin questline got continued in rs3, become an rs3 player if you want your penguin closure
some wasted points but
"a little bit of this and a little bit of that" pact tree
actually no Toxic staff of the dead IS a charged staff?
thats 40 points?XD
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wait, can you get ranged echoes with magic if you have those pacts
so it gets the charged spell cast boost
yeah im being a bit silly. don't you get that thing from Kandarin echo that let's you ignore elements or something?
why not
maybe im tripping
is it with blue moon staff?
yeah
Toxic Staff of the Dead
didnt take that region
i dont see the build
how do you trigger ranged echo?
does regenerating runes not count as regenerating ammo?
no

ah rip
huh
there should be a undead grasp build with blue moon staff
blue moon staff -> cast undead grasp
trigger free mellee attack
trigger blindbag
trigger ranged echoes
but i think thats bugged
They wouldnt of gone out of there way to state both runes and whatever they say for projectiles, if they were considered tbe same
would we be using Blue Moon or Toxic Staff of the Dead?
cause i have asgarnia and prif
i can get that
blue moon set gives 1 free mellee attack if you cast undead grasp
thats why it works
but i think they never fixed it
so doesnt work
Im so confused why undying grasp is being cast at all tbh
why not
Iv used that spell, shit stinks
Alright echo thermy is a bit rough lol
Frostweaver: Gives the Blue moon spear a chance to melee attack instantly, without any action delays, after the player casts a spell that would bind, freeze or root a target.
20% chance to occur after successfully casting a Bind spell from the Standard spellbook or an Ice spell from the Ancient spellbook, even if it does not bind a target.** 50% chance to occur after successfully casting a Grasp spell from the Arceuus spellbook, even if it does not bind a target.**
Quarter of a second stun that does fuck all dmg
seems underwhelming
gotta manually cast feor that tho
is undead grasp actually not a meme way to deal dmg?
its a build i theorized very early on
that uses EVERY pact mechanic on the entire tree
in 1 attack
(except thorns)
only thing you benefit is fire capstone isnt it tho
non blue moon set?
probably a meme
full crystal with the echo?
fire capstone wouldn't do anything for undead grasp because it's not a fire spell
and toxic staff of the dead
elemental synergy is too much of a good thing
fire hits like a truck and applies burn + the dagger benefits
cause of how fast were casting it
he always moves
Probably not
we'll trigger the bind over and over
he actually runs with you XD
i have tried magic at vardorvis, you'll be lucky to hit him at all
36 max hit isnt to bad
it isnt good either
maybe i'm just spoiled by my build but 36 feels really low to me
this thing seems worth wasting pacts tor each hah
its just FINE
i regularly hit 100+
Mm, seems decent. Gl, hope it works out well for u
Is there gear set from Barrows that is good for mage/better than mystic set?
the problem is the refreeze immunity
ahrim
ty
4 ticks freeze into 2 ticks unfreezable is not the best gameplay
Good for kiting
does grasp even have a refreeze immunity tho
jsut use ice at that point
Ye it shows it there
1.2 seconds
With a chance to just not bind as well
Which is a bit rood
its 100% if you ahve the mark
or entangle lol
Iv def cast grasp with darkness up and not binded tho
could be because of the refreeze?
no idea never used a grasp spell
neither tbh
its way too a fringe of a spell
I dont know where would I even use it
It has one verg specific use case
only thing that come to me is muspah if you on arceus without powerstaff
man i really hope they will fix blue moon blindbag T.T
that was the build i was most hyped around
One of the requests that yama gives u is using a binding spell on black demons
So i was bonking em down with demon bane and then grasping
honestly I never interacted with that ever yet
It kinds sucks
isn't that one of the things they said they wouldn't fix
But its better than nothing if u dont have gorillas
I still lack heavy frame so I keep doing gorrilas and watching my extra zenyte shards in my bank

Ill take em
The Blue Moon Spear doesn't work with the 'Melee at Range' Pacts.
they wont fix this
which also sucks
this reminded me I need 2nd monkey tail so gonna do hunting for it I guess ๐ซ
ok i just leave him for 1 day and wtf...
yeah he goes crazy
this should be easy 50m
wtf is this clog
maybe crafting is the fastest one he can do
you had it on flax or planks
oh yeah crafting is insane
you got tyr?
nah
then yeah thats how you get crafting then
ayy
ye its like 6M a day
training crafting without actually touching crafting
same with herblore
I thank my butler
i might be touching herblore later
99 you can completly do with butler
i have all the stuff
imo potion storage is worth it
even if not worth points
mixology kinda ehhhhhh
peanut butter flavoured bubblegum
vs
bubblegum flavoured peanut butter
the barrel is 200
outfit you can sell back after equipping
and 50 goading another 30 oor 80
aswell with 100 Prayer regen
you need the full outfit tho dont forget
yeah but do that one before chugging barrel
i though a set is also needed
it was fine points





