leagues-general

[rare hollow]

which is nutty

u cant do anything else but flick

thats why thorns excels there

[amber sleet]

thorns excels because you can put on full absolute tank and piss out more damage than someone building for dps

and it lets you just camp 1 prayer style and not die

[rare hollow]

true

[chilly pine]

i also tried 1 tick healing with 1t staff, but that didn't seem to work

[rare hollow]

id rather be a mixed thorns + blindbag than that tho

[rare hollow]

sang staff is very very powerful in there ive heard

[amber sleet]

if you have 100% rune regen it should be a tick eat every tick

only issue is if 2 jads range back to back and both hit u

that can kill u

cause the 2nd jad hit rolls damage before the first connects

[versed root]

how are we doin farming if we didnt take natures accord? like what are some of the best methods?

[chilly pine]

i had range protect on and it didn't work either

[amber sleet]

so if u want to be super super safe u just alternate your prayer when u see that more than 1 jad is ranging in a row

[vapid silo]

calquat, tree and fruit tree runs...

farm contracts/tithe farm if you got Zeah

[amber sleet]

should be easy to offtick because the mage shot actually appears to come out when it does so you can swap to range immediately after the last mage hit in the sequence comes

[wanton fiber]

Culling spree + kandarin and desert. Is there any multi combat recommended task?

[chilly pine]

desert has dust devils and kandarin has smoke devils

[wanton fiber]

But they're not multi combat right?

[amber sleet]

kand smoke devils are i think

like 99% sure

[potent quail]

Yeah in the boss fight for sire

[wanton fiber]

ooo okay, thanks 😮

[chilly pine]

the desert dust devils are multi in the slayer area

[potent quail]

Boss is trivial always should be in that instance

[chilly pine]

outside boss area smoke devils are also multi

[wanton fiber]

I could've sworn they werent multi combat damn

Thanks bros

[torpid trench]

Wait so if thorns counts as melee dmg done by me (im getting atk xp when thorns procs), does that mean that if I proc thorns, while holding a Dihns which is a 2h melee weapon, I could benefit from ranged echoes?

[rare hollow]

no

[amber sleet]

no

[rare hollow]

becoz dinhs is 2h

[amber sleet]

thorns don't actually count as attacks

they are just melee typed damage

[torpid trench]

lame

[rare hollow]

and thorns works only with 1h + shields

[amber sleet]

dihns does work with thorns

[rare hollow]

no way

[amber sleet]

just not the way he was asking

[torpid trench]

It doesnt say 1h shield

it says shield

[amber sleet]

and dihns is also a blindbag weapon

[torpid trench]

I am plotting a blindbag thorns water hybrid

yeah

[amber sleet]

so if u want u could thorns bbag with dihns 2 tile

[torpid trench]

OH WAIT

[potent quail]

I think they are unaggressive
So you do need to manually ping them

[rare hollow]

blindbag dinhs is something vro

[torpid trench]

But the blindbag weapons

would proc the range echoes right

[amber sleet]

yeah

[torpid trench]

plz god say yes

[timber quest]

Does the spec have an 18 tile range cuz of the 2x distance?

[potent quail]

Funfact there is 1 multicombat zone for lizard shamans

Quite a fun fight doing 3 at once

[wanton fiber]

Thats totally fine, i wasnt aware of multi tho. Thanks!

[torpid trench]

FUCK YEAHkdfgkdf

[timber quest]

Or did they jagex it

[rare hollow]

oh wow youre right

theres just no way you're bringing dinh's blindbag simply for range echoes lol

[opaque knoll]

relic 8 boys, what are we thinking, I went endless foodso flask seems kinda silly. minion seems like a good choice for water/thorns final build, but axe also because I dont do much burst damage and could help execute stuff?

[amber sleet]

well

[rare hollow]

axe is the most useless

[amber sleet]

you'd still want the same ideal weapons in the bag for dihns bb thorns

you'd put boppers+scythes ideally

those will proc a lot of echoes

[chilly pine]

i dont regret minion since it notes all drops, which is perfect for transmute as well

[potent quail]

Nah axe is terrible outside group raiding

[amber sleet]

it would probably just be a superior blindbag at most content

[shrewd ermine]

am I better off training prayer with bones (transmute unlocked) or do I use soul shards?

[opaque knoll]

true true, thanks. im going minion fuck it

[amber sleet]

maybe falls off a bit when u need damage where u cant thorns

[potent quail]

It is a great pick

[chilly pine]

if you pick minion later, you wont need soul shards for prayer

[vapid silo]

soul shards for sure if you have that

[shrewd ermine]

not sure what T8 will be for me. im about to unlock T7 soon though :)

debating between minion/executioner but idk how good minion actually is

[vapid silo]

minion is very good DPS increase and noting utlity

[wanton fiber]

Small note, totally forgot smoke devil != dust devil task

[shrewd ermine]

what about for bossing? I heard executioner is better there

[amber sleet]

i have yet to see any executioner players

i am definitely not regretting my flask pick though

flask is fun and strong

it lets you void a lot of instakill mechanics to keep more uptime

[vapid silo]

I'd straight up say executioner's axe is the wrong choice in that tier

[chilly pine]

i get so many notes ashes and bones from minion to transmute into highest tier

[amber sleet]

and is nice sustain for blindbag which otherwise has none

[opaque knoll]

yeah, I unfortuinately think I will finish my build as the boring thorns/water mage, so maybe never use it but for the damage eh?

[amber sleet]

flask also i think clears the death queue

[vapid silo]

flask is quite versatile

[amber sleet]

so if u use it fast enough just as u die it will save you

[vapid silo]

yeah but you need to be quick with it

[rare hollow]

flask is prob the best if u have thorns

u just keep taking down the timer

[timber quest]

I lov muh flask

[shrewd ermine]

so minion apparently works for 30 minutes, but what's the cooldown?

[timber quest]

No cooldown :)

[vapid silo]

no cooldown

[shrewd ermine]

oh, so I just need to resummon it again and all is well?

[timber quest]

Iirc a few leagues ago it was more dps to respawn it every tick xf

[rare hollow]

its a thrall

[merry sphinx]

3 smoke battlestaff before occult

[wanton fiber]

damn gimme 1

[rare hollow]

F

[shrewd ermine]

ngl I think I wasnt there when thralls came out so idk how they work entirely

[urban wigeon]

Are there any tricks for better odds of ranged echo with melee or are we stuck with the 5%?

[merry sphinx]

zzz always dry on the pact point items

[amber sleet]

take the crossbow echo node

[merry sphinx]

+30 echoes

[vapid silo]

with melee, all 3 ranged echo modifiers apply if you take them

[urban wigeon]

What the ffff

[amber sleet]

read what your melee echo node says. it acts as if you have all ranged weapons equipped for the purpose of echos

[austere mirage]

Soon!

[urban wigeon]

I'm missing out on so much dps then

[amber sleet]

so any ranged node that affects echos affects your melee echos

[austere mirage]

Okay you!

[amber sleet]

also

[urban wigeon]

Huge news, ty

[amber sleet]

multi hit weapons (boppers/scythe) will roll an echo chance for each hit

which means boppers are basically your bis blindbag items until you have scythe

[urban wigeon]

Ye I've got all boppers but one so far

[torpid trench]

with the regions kand, kourend, and asg, what is the tankiest glove slot item i can actually get?

[amber sleet]

dual macs are bis over scythes even

[opaque knoll]

yeah if you read it actually says "as if you have a bow, crossbow and thrown weapon equipped

[vapid silo]

only the ones that read "while regenerating ammo" won't apply for your melee triggers

[urban wigeon]

So I should take all 3 nodes oki

[opaque knoll]

so you take the 3 ranged pacts for each of those

yeah yeah yeah

[shrewd ermine]

how does minion collect loot? does it have an inventory of its own or does it send to the bank?

[amber sleet]

it slurps it into your bag as notes

[urban wigeon]

Damn, I wonder if I should spec out of halberd range, love it

[merry sphinx]

i think it just sends it to your invent

noted

[vapid silo]

Maia wanna spam Huey in leagues?

[shrewd ermine]

alrighty ty

[amber sleet]

don't

[urban wigeon]

Or, zalcano? I need rcing levels

[amber sleet]

there are places where you really want the range

[vapid silo]

only did 1kc on Huey so far

or zalc

[urban wigeon]

That's what I've been thinking ye, love safespotting

[amber sleet]

you can reach all the stuff you want for blindbag and still have extra pacts left over

[shrewd ermine]

385 more laps to go

[urban wigeon]

@vapid silo 6ish pm my time?

[amber sleet]

like the last 6-8 pacts i am taking are just little defense/accuracy/pray pen nodes

[urban wigeon]

Combats are maxed and I got full blood moon so I think I'll do the boss shenanigans for more points now

[chilly pine]

i still need to do 250 more, because hotfoot didnt count when i did it

[urban wigeon]

And spread the tree further

[vapid silo]

1100 points left aaa

[torpid trench]

mfw i realize torva is only 66 total defense more than oath

[shrewd ermine]

i deeply regret picking woodsman over hotfoot, but at least I have a hunting solve sort of

but yeah no hotfoot in zalcano sucks

[chilly pine]

torva really fell off after oath

[urban wigeon]

Oh damn I should do echo amox first tbh

[amber sleet]

i got to 93 agi today and learned all the sepulchre floors for the first time

surely tomorrow i 99 it

[torpid trench]

Man idk what region to pick last now

[shrewd ermine]

what do you have so far?

[torpid trench]

Was originally gonna go desert just to meme solo toa

[urban wigeon]

@amber sleet How strong is the 10% healing node, worth taking?

[amber sleet]

not strong at all but you want sustain so you take it

it gets a little better once you have both of them

still not very good though

[urban wigeon]

Cool just to keep hp up yeah

[torpid trench]

just kand atm. Next is kourend for dinhs and oathplate and prayers

[urban wigeon]

Sounds underwhelming but should help a tad

[amber sleet]

blood fury will be most of your healing once you have it

[torpid trench]

Then I swapped to thinking asg last to upgrade oath to torva, but im not taking a whole region and soloing nex for +66 total defence

[amber sleet]

but those 2 nodes make a little bit of difference

[torpid trench]

Could go mory, but solo tob sounds awful

[amber sleet]

they can be the little bit extra u need to turn a slow chip towards death into a constant sustain

[urban wigeon]

That's the plan, recently unlocked mory and am working on crafting levels

[shrewd ermine]

With the right pacts it's pretty busted

(so I was told)

[torpid trench]

ill be doing watermage thorns blindbag hybrid. Lemme link the current plan

[amber sleet]

oh no

are u a blue mooner?

[torpid trench]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-112-113-114-122-135-136-139-140-141-145-150-151-152-157-161-2-3-4-44-45-46-5-56-59-68-71-73-74-81-82-84-86-96-97

[next dust]

am i the only one on leagues with an Ice Queen kc?

[torpid trench]

Nah, just an oathplate enjoyer

[shrewd ermine]

im a lunar :)

prob just going to go straight to crystal gear afterwards

[short cave]

no i wanted pickpocket challenge

[next dust]

guess i gotta go kil her again

[amber sleet]

if u are going to be using a shield and 1h heavy u would probably gain more from taking that healing node and 20% strength to strength bonus conversion instead of the blindbag capstone

~19 str bonus vs dealing 10% more damage sometimes maybe

[torpid trench]

Dinhs mh

[amber sleet]

ah

[torpid trench]

dinhs and swap for quadrant when needing heals

[tacit oyster]

i love culling spree when i get 8 colossal hydras in row

[amber sleet]

if dihns then i would even say going for the increased range and that healing node instead would be better no?

[shrewd ermine]

this is my current setup for now. will probably just full commit to mage thorns and add some prayer pen

[amber sleet]

2 tile range instead of 1 and some more thorns sustain

[bold scaffold]

does the fire spell capstone burn effect not work??

[next pagoda]

Can anyone else confirm that yama loot drop is bugged?
Im on 150+ kc and still yet to see a single wrath rune drop which should be 1:19 if multipliers work. Not mentioning 0 oath armor drops at all.

[torpid trench]

idk, and i cant math it because the wiki dps calc doesnt allow for thorns dmg

[amber sleet]

i see

[sturdy roost]

does someone have nex tech

[amber sleet]

i mean all i know is the blindbag capstone feels like immense bait to me

like if there's anything else u want in the tree i feel like it's better to take that over the blindbag capstone

all the capstone does is give u 10% more max hit on your blindbag swings specifically

which is good

but weaker than a lot of nodes

[torpid trench]

sure, im listening. i havent put much thought into it, just went "huh, i have more pts, guess i blindbag"

[torn lynx]

Don't think multiplier affects basic drops

[fickle thistle]

im free from spider prison

218 kc nally acquired

[austere mirage]

smoke devils shall be mine!

[amber sleet]

when you really think about it the blindbag capstone is 10% more damage sometimes but that sometimes only happens ~25% of the time

[austere mirage]

93 slayer!

[amber sleet]

so it's even less sometimes than sometimes

probably like a 4% damage increase or something

compared to ranged doubling their damage

insane

[wooden hamlet]

I just got the task 'fully decorate a redwood totem' when I did a magic one?

[dusky coral]

that's intentional yup, since some people prob won't have access to redwood ever if they don't pick kourend

[austere mirage]

yeah apparently thats a thing

[wooden hamlet]

Oh that's convenient, ez 200 points. Nice

[short cave]

using crystal armor rn and i have asgarnia/tirr/kand unlocked. whats bis water/thorns gear?

[bold scaffold]

the fire spell capstone burn effect isn't working for me

[short cave]

did 5 jad challenge

lets try 6 lmao

[austere mirage]

Are you in a multi combat area?

[austere mirage]

mad man!

[bold scaffold]

no

[torpid trench]

im also not fully attached to blindbag, i just didnt know what else i could do with dinhs

[austere mirage]

i think its only in multi combat areas

[short cave]

fuck i got so close

i accidentally turned off prayer isntead of switching and fucked up my rythym

[torpid trench]

Besides blindbag, what other paths could you take to make use of a Dinh's bulwark? Im already doing thorns

[bold scaffold]

the spreading does work in multicombat but i expected it to apply a regular burn at least in single way =x

[simple hazel]

I dont fkin know how to get this last lunar moon achievement..i have literally done what it says and still dont get it.

It’s the “ kill all 3 moons in one run without taking any dmg outside of their normal hits”

[austere mirage]

Same

[simple hazel]

Does like teleporting with evil eye mot count? Do i need to physically walk through each entrance?

Has anyone else done it?

[amber sleet]

are you letting yourself take damage from being outside the safezones?

[simple hazel]

No

I was in the safe zone for all 3 of them

[amber sleet]

i don't have any other ideas

[simple hazel]

I just want the 200pts and move on lol

[tacit oyster]

i think it can also fail if nagua hits you on the way to bloodmoon

[amber sleet]

i haven't done that one yet myself in leagues so far because I've only farmed blood moon

[thorny terrace]

the minion looting value rules doesnt make any sense to me. or does it just not loot bones when you input a value?

it picks up the cheaper hide but ignores the more expensive bone lol

[austere mirage]

Oh update?

[tacit oyster]

most common ways to take damage on the no moons run is naguas outside of bosses or entering eclipse during ball special

[thorny terrace]

if they bring this effect back i hope rather than going by arbitrary loot value they let us just blacklist or whitelist items

[chrome kraken]

Stupid question maybe, but is it intended behavior that Vasa in CM runs 1 shots you regardless of HP, or is that a bug?

[tacit oyster]

need to lower hp before you enter since it deals like 120% of your current hp when it teleports

[latent rune]

not fixing thorns not triggering on thermo echo hu.......

[chrome kraken]

I see. Thank you!

[tacit oyster]

it should be current hp -5 though

i just sip overload before entering and then heal to full after teleport

[chrome kraken]

that makes a lot of sense

I'll try it, thanks

[indigo nimbus]

does echo gauntlet have the same loot as corrupted + echo item?

[chilly pine]

yes

[tacit oyster]

Attacking one volatile earth from the Doom of Mokhaiotl immediately spawns and despawns the orb.

we getting actual main game fix to doom finally after leagues?

double hitting weapons have always failed the volatile earth part

[restive heart]

Does flask not work on nightmare? Only seems to work on pillars as per my testing

[covert wolf]

Honestly I'm feeling a little lost with mage thorns
What can I do with pvm?

Maybe I should afk corps

[sick ledge]

wouldnt it be a very cool thing if league will last 1 month longer but then every content could be unlocked, meaning with every area and with new point ranks where you also have the chance to unlock every relic
so people could try to finish full collection log

[tacit oyster]

full collection log would require 10+ years even in leagues

[chilly pine]

it has been suggested before to unlock all areas at the end, but it would have to come at a removal of the point system if they did, and there's no clear indication people actually care enough to play for a month on a server like that with no benefits

[amber sleet]

ah of course, all the blindbag issues are not being fixed this league...

could we at least get a real capstone?

[covert wolf]

And I'm still in awe there's 1 person on this earth actually manage to greenlog everything except the clue scroll rare

[chilly pine]

you mean scythe unequipping shield?

[covert wolf]

Idk the exact name though

[amber sleet]

and movement deleting procs

the much more important of the two

[chilly pine]

procs enabled while moving sounds like technical issues

[inner zenith]

Any other easy pets apart from RC/Theveing, this league?

[haughty root]

I double deathed at hydra and can't find my items is there any way to get it back

[chilly pine]

can you check death's office?

[inner zenith]

dont think so, sucks ot be you

[haughty root]

not there

damn that was a fun leagues

[chilly pine]

farming pet somewhat with sped up growth even without natures accord

[haughty root]

but as if you are able to lose shit

[thorn siren]

kinda based build

[inner zenith]

its same as main game @haughty root

[haughty root]

but its leagues xd

you get pked you don't lose your things

[inner zenith]

Certinaly worth suggesting to them, doubt itd be done tho

[haughty root]

its supposed to be fun

[inner zenith]

it classes as pvm death

so if u died again u lose it

[short cave]

6 jad is easier than 5 jad

[inner zenith]

its fair

just dont die twice kidna thing

[chilly pine]

the update today actually fixes a losing items bug if you got pked and died by poison

[short cave]

dont gravestones spawn at yamas for everyone now?

or is it different if u have wildy

[chilly pine]

depends where you die

[outer hazel]

yea unless the boss has a reclaim chest

[fickle thistle]

That looks like cerb dagger

Kinda love it

[thorn siren]

tis is

[austere mirage]

i didnt hear no bell! get back here!

[rich thistle]

Hiya! Is there a place I can look up good pact builds? I’m not that smart and see you tubers having fun with great builds but can’t see them sharing their unlocked pacts. I like the look of the mage builds.

[fair swallow]

@rich thistle Most twitch streamers are sharing there pacts

[next dust]

another 99

[ruby socket]

Is there a world for pc?

[placid tapir]

Can someone help me with fight pit for diary?

[chilly pine]

some have shared their builds in https://discord.com/channels/324132423636090880/1485589070972325888

[short cave]

i did 6 jad challenge 😮

[analog crag]

Does teleporting between the moon bosses with evil eye prevent the perilous dancer combat achievement?

[torpid trench]

Man I am 6 tasks away and still at a loss as to what regions to take

[chilly pine]

no

[analog crag]

thx

[amber sleet]

hopefully i will awaken to enough outrage from blindbaggers about the sidelining of our fixes that gagek will announce buffs in recompense

[lone bloom]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/more-leagues-vi-fixes?oldschool=1

[covert wolf]

noooooo

im doing colo

[ruby socket]

World for pestconntrrorl?

[chilly pine]

did you check world 666?

[simple hazel]

😮‍💨😮‍💨 i finally got the no dmg task at moons! Apparently evil eye does NOT work for that task.

[ruby socket]

Yeah, sadly entirely empty

thhere's 4 tasks to pc im surprised im not seeing anyone

[vapid silo]

so, next week we're getting fixed:

Endless Harvest doesn't auto-move with Karambwanji or the Shark spot in Priffddinas.
but this won't be fixed this league:
Endless Harvest doesn't auto-move with Karambwanji or the Shark spot in Priffdinas.
maybe we also need a 3rd version that gets fixed today where they spell the city name correctly

[simple hazel]

Teleporting to each boss doesnt count 🤷‍♂️

[chilly pine]

you can enable notifications in chat to show when you fail combat tasks

[covert wolf]

i have recoil charge on first time echo boots right?

should take this first then back again

[simple hazel]

Im on mobile is that. Runelite thing?

[next dust]

Hiow do

[simple hazel]

Thank you. I did not know this

[short cave]

is special jad challenge the 18 in a row without dying one?

[tacit oyster]

There is also the doom volatile earth double hits getting fixed next week but shadowflame quadrant on volatile earth not getting fixed

[chilly pine]

no, its called 6,6,6 something

[tepid wren]

Will the blindbag be fixed or?

[lone bloom]

do u fight 6 at a time 3 times in a row then

[chilly pine]

its noted in future issues that are looked at, so not today

[chilly pine]

when you kill one, it instantly spawns another in its place

using the infinite challenge

[lone bloom]

oh thats doable then

[chilly pine]

1 tick prayer flicking for 18 jad kills

[lone bloom]

but theres 6 at a time?

[chilly pine]

ye

[tacit oyster]

flask not getting fixed in cox, sad. guess i need to finish cox with 33% damage on olm

[ruby socket]

anyone in need for pc tasks? come to world 666

[lone bloom]

oh nvm then, thats still hard

[graceful lynx]

theres no downtime right?

[split tangle]

i need tent whip fixed, flying through whips atm

[tacit oyster]

Blindbag is less effective with alot of movement, sometimes losing out on hits.
Blindbag is removing offhand items with Kitted Scythes.
If you have a Battleaxe in triggered with Blindbag, it stays equipped.

all these are investigated for future leagues but not for this league

[ruby socket]

pathetic

literally saying "yeah we know this is wildy inconsistent and worse than other build but you can just reroll lmao"

what if blindbag is fun specifically?

"just reroll lmao"

[lone bloom]

it isnt fun tho

[ruby socket]

it is

[lone bloom]

nope

[chilly pine]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[ruby socket]

Oh yeah i forgot subjective opiniions don't exist

For elitists that is

[tacit oyster]

blindbag can still be used but it has multiple weapons that reduce dps if they are in your bag

[old tapir]

do you think oathplate or obsidian is better for water thorns

is the extra defense worth the hit to magic accuracy

[short cave]

okay league jad challenge is a big rip

[cinder remnant]

Doom is hard

[short cave]

need to take out the big lava boys i think

[cinder remnant]

Guess I need more accuracy etc

But the pray flicking on delve 4 is fast

[torpid trench]

oath would be huge, and with conf and all the accuracy nodes, its nbd to take the hit to magic atk

[old tapir]

there's also the one accuracy node that's really good

the distance one

[cinder remnant]

Any tips for doom?

[digital lily]

Are the servers down for everyone?

[chilly pine]

in 1 minute ye

[lone bloom]

system update in 1 min

[cinder remnant]

Update

[digital lily]

Ah isee, thx

[tacit oyster]

update in 1minute so no one can log in currently

[old tapir]

if the boulder glows blue, pray mage
if it doesn't pray range

[chilly pine]

what build are you running

[torpid trench]

wdym?

[old tapir]

5% chance to roll max accuracy per tile of distance

[cinder remnant]

I’m trying water mage thorns but on delve 3 4 and above it just gets really fast the pray flicking

[torpid trench]

oh cool

[cinder remnant]

Like in melee range

[torpid trench]

yeah thatll help a bunch too

[indigo nimbus]

reeee i didnt see the notif, i was in the middle of echo hunleff

[torpid trench]

but also if youre mage thorns, you wanna be md

[fluid fable]

Uno, iv been doing kelphite queen for the last hour or so looking for his echo orb

[torpid trench]

because recoil is bigly

[split parcel]

hey guys am i trolling if i choose clue relic? My goal is just points for dragon rank

KTZ

[fluid fable]

And i gotta take back everything i said about him in the past. I used to think he was just a little uninteresting coz of lack of mechanical depth

[old tapir]

once you know what prayer to start the flicks on, determined by what kind of boulder he throws out, it becomes quite manageable

[fluid fable]

But no. His far worse

[cinder remnant]

And doom hits me hard too so idk if I’m doing it right

[timber quest]

Clue relic with kandarin is really strong cuz of sherlock

[torpid trench]

The clue relic is incredibly lackluster this year, i would strongly encourage you to look up youtube videos talking about it. Just to be sure before you decide, because ive seen almost exclusively negative feedback on it

[chilly pine]

stay out of melee range, if you wanna interupt the laser, you need to hit it with demonbane (echo amox weapon or arceuss spell)

[fluid fable]

Thr only good thing i have to say about kq isnt even her fault.

Leagues makes her spawns healers, and u benefit from making sure as many spawn as possible. Thats it. Thats the entirety of what iv been enjoying about her

Other than the plate body upgrade, that was pretty nice.

[lone bloom]

that was a quick update, im back online

[strange jacinth]

healers??

[fluid fable]

Her dudes are dumpster tier. And my build heals when enemies hitsplat a 0

[strange jacinth]

okay i had the faintest idea thats what you meant

[fluid fable]

If u attack me and miss, i will heal

They miss alot, and attack alot

[cinder remnant]

Don’t you need to be in melee range to proc thorns

Like for more dps?

[strange jacinth]

no

doom melee hits through prayer really fast and hard

[tacit oyster]

main thing about standing in melee range is that it can skip boulders i think

[strange jacinth]

if you got sustenence tank a few but dont just die yknow

and yeah it does

[next dust]

does anyone have desert but not asgarnia

[old tapir]

yes?

[next dust]

can you try something for me

[old tapir]

depends

[next dust]

talk to Shantay at Shanty Pass

[chilly pine]

trying to get sent to jail?

[plain pasture]

we back up?

[fluid fable]

Idk if there doing it, ill try

[next dust]

show me text options haha

[strange jacinth]

theyve done multiple locked area leagues i doubt they somehow overlooked that

[next dust]

they did with the dark wizard sending you to lumbridge

[strange jacinth]

yeah but thats new

not having misthalin, so that i get

[old tapir]

https://i.imgur.com/hut67Ta.png

[next dust]

hes going to give you dialog options

[old tapir]

i know, this is after those

dialogue stops and you can exit the shantay pass jail for free

[next dust]

awww ok

Lol

[fluid fable]

They thought of it:(

[old tapir]

very obscure teleport, i like it

[fluid fable]

I imagine it worked in a previous league

[next dust]

dueling ring to port sarim was my way early ironman

[fluid fable]

To someones great joy

[next dust]

it was featured in tileman tho

so they probably knew

[old tapir]

i require a yama partner

[cinder remnant]

It’s just his special with the orb plus the rock attack with 3/4 prayer flicks while moving I’m dying to the most

[fluid fable]

Is keris partisan just very accurate against kq or what?

I thought it was meant to have like a pretty low chance to hit for like 50

But iv never seen it, and its making me sad

Just feels like a whelmingly decent weapon there

[tacit oyster]

kandarin went from least picked to most picked for this league

fremmenik 0.51% picked 🎉

[strange jacinth]

i heard my bro suggest just eat the rock fall and focus on your prayers and hope you dont get pushed into an acid

cuz its like 15 damage

but the prayer flicks delete you

tbh with this build i never had to do orb special sooo

shoulda read a bit more

the fremmenik echo item seemed like actual dogwater

like legit where is it good

[fluid fable]

Link it pls

[ruby socket]

is it possible to find players for the 4 PC tasks?

[tacit oyster]

one of the populated worlds probably has people trying to do pest control

[strange jacinth]

5% chance to reduce damage of attack to 0 and makes next special attack free for 60s

counts as slayer helm

[cinder remnant]

Good point

[fluid fable]

So

Wouldnt that be the answer then?

Just a really upgraded slayer helm

[ruby socket]

I trried 666 and all 1000 player worlds. i read somewhere pc exp is turned off that's why nobody does it..

[fluid fable]

Spec down someone 20 times in 60 seconds

[strange jacinth]

nah you get 1 free special attack

[fluid fable]

O

Tfs the point of that

[strange jacinth]

lmao

[fluid fable]

Isnt that like... a surge pot

[strange jacinth]

thats what im asking

thats why frem is 0.5%

[tacit oyster]

the echo item is basically culling spree without task and superior buffs. 5% chance for negate damage and 1 free spec, no cooldown

[strange jacinth]

but is it actually good anywhere combined with like dihns bulwark and spec atttack pacts

i imagin itd be absolutely giga cracked at monkeys

[fluid fable]

Im not using any echoe items unfortunately 🙁

None of them like, work for me

In the regions i picked

Unless karamja has one that idk of

[tacit oyster]

same, used drygore for a while early but regen on it is bugged. amoxliatl echo item is for doom at least

[fluid fable]

Can u melee doom tho?

[strange jacinth]

update mentioned fixing bp regen

[fluid fable]

Isnt that like, giga ur gonna die a painful horrible death

[crystal kelp]

Yes

[tacit oyster]

yeah but i dont really use drygore anymore since throwing tree gets weak later on

[strange jacinth]

you probably want a 2h wep with the increased range pact

[fluid fable]

Im using regular ole bows for the final phase of my league

Idk how good the kourend one is. Prolly should of had a look at it

Initially was going bowfa coz. Uno its good or whatever

[tacit oyster]

echo hespori is really just msb with healing/prayer regen and can shoot dragon arrows

[toxic adder]

would reloading into trasmute or larcenist be a good move

[fluid fable]

And then realised. This league is the perfect opportunity to whip out a web weaver and do all the content it struggles with on main

Take my fave out to the big leagues

[chilly pine]

what are your current relics?

[toxic adder]

EH, hotfoot, bank, bell, natures, culling spree

[cinder remnant]

You get crazy damage on car phase holy moly

[chilly pine]

if not taking soul harvest, transmute can help your runecrafting/prayer situation

[fluid fable]

Can it?

[fringe lake]

Is there an agility conga line anywhere?

[strange jacinth]

if youre melee mory or something youll want larc for the blood shards

[fluid fable]

Whats transmute do for rc?

[toxic adder]

i believe bones for blessing

[chilly pine]

turn air runes into pure essence

[fringe lake]

runes down to pure essence

[toxic adder]

oh

[fluid fable]

Ic

[toxic adder]

sorry was thinking prayer

[fluid fable]

Thats kinda nice ig

[strange jacinth]

i transmuted alot of pure essence but just ended up doing the minigame lol

[fluid fable]

My transmutes just been pretty much perma locked on turning fires into chaos for ages now

[fringe lake]

If you have desert then yeah just do gotr

Its way faster xp

[fluid fable]

My trick is to just not do rc

Pretty successful so far

[toxic adder]

appreciate it

[strange jacinth]

i needed 60 rc for something

i forgot

some quest probs

[fluid fable]

I prolly could handle getting about 80 i think

Just for base lvls

[strange jacinth]

doom quest 60 rc?

[chilly pine]

its funny how i'm 94 runecrafting with just lamps from diaries and sins of the father

[fluid fable]

Ill consider it if im struggling for task completions

[fluid fable]

Certainly could be

[fluid fable]

Thats pretty nice actually

[strange jacinth]

no final dawn was 52 rc

[weary shadow]

Transmute has a lot of just good uses, if you have no access to wrath runes it seems necessary for mages.

[fringe lake]

Not that needed if you have ancients tbf

(unless you are doing anything other than water I guess)

[strange jacinth]

surge kinda way better than ancients with quadrent

[fringe lake]

ngl I dont even know what that is

[strange jacinth]

surge spells

[weary shadow]

Sherlock into Sherlock

[fringe lake]

No, quadrent

[chilly pine]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Shadowflame_quadrant echo thermy staff

[fringe lake]

I see

[iron river]

Blindbag is less effective with alot of movement, sometimes losing out on hits.
:/

shame this wont be added this league as a fix

[strange jacinth]

yeah its the staff making people doublecast

[fringe lake]

Ive only just managed to get echo kq down

[iron river]

"sometimes"

[fringe lake]

Oh wait I dont even get quadrant rip

[torpid trench]

Anyone done any testing with the lithic scepter?

[chilly pine]

i have it, but dont use it, cus its worse than trident of the swamp

[torpid trench]

thats crazy how did they mess it up?

[chilly pine]

lower max hit

[fringe lake]

I dont get that either

Gone DZA

[chilly pine]

was supposed to be the bursting wand, but you'd use ancients for that

[torpid trench]

I was debating taking the node for 1t since Ill be going mory anyway, but i dont think theres any other 1h charged staves id benefit from with my regions (KMD)

[chilly pine]

the burst is timegated behind the charges too

morytania has sang staff

[torpid trench]

oh true

was thinking more about that 2t water magic from the nightmare staff

[chilly pine]

unfortunate that nightmare is not a fun boss

[torpid trench]

its a personal favorite, I am mentally challenged

[chilly pine]

even 25 kc in a mass took longer than expected

and there were maybe 3 drops across the 20 or so people

[torpid trench]

i think between last league and my main acc Ive done around 500 phosani?

Probably closer to 475

[chilly pine]

if you multiply the people by the kc, you get the amount of rolls we got, which was near 500

[torpid trench]

[shut oracle]

Using a bow is just painful against dragons

[wary walrus]

are abyss creatures not affected by buffed xp rates, killed 250 walkers for a 1/8 pouch drop

[chilly pine]

they indeed take a while to get

[covert wolf]

is this normally

takes a while?

[iron river]

close it

and try again

[covert wolf]

96%

this sometimes happen every week and i have no clue

finally

[torn lynx]

Please let it end

[weary shadow]

What are you after?

[torn lynx]

The robe top for 200 points

[native gazelle]

for the tzket-reks task - Multi style specialist. I have range echo with melee that fail the task....Am I just cooked?

[torn lynx]

Use a 1 handed melee weapon instead

Won't get echos

[native gazelle]

smart man

[covert wolf]

yikes
i've done this one yesterday

did you get the 50 zombie key?

[torn lynx]

Sitting on 22 atm

[covert wolf]

might as well get pirate slayer task at the same time for slayer exp

that's what i do

[fickle thistle]

Is ourania altar good rc xp

Or is it level dependent

[covert wolf]

what happen if the bees at colo hit me

do they die?

[torn lynx]

Aye finally got it

Just gotta complain alittle

[covert wolf]

why this guy gone t pose mode

[fickle thistle]

The nature talisman?

[chilly pine]

car phase

(probably runelite version mismatch)

[covert wolf]

another one

[severe schooner]

most efficient way to train prayer?

[covert wolf]

do valramore stuff like hunter or moons

[weary shadow]

Efficient is having Soul Harvest with Nature's Accord

[merry sphinx]

absolutely spooned at mith dragons

[weary shadow]

Oh grats

[fleet ibex]

Efficient is actually having butlers bell

[stark mist]

Any desert enjoyer? how did you get the camulet? Enakhra's Lament quest auto completed but all four entrances inside the temple blocked. I need to find lamis

[weary shadow]

Doing elites, how do I tell if Mimic is on?

[fleet ibex]

The doors should be open down there

[chilly pine]

if you haven't gotten a casket yet, it will ask you when you open your first one

[inner hare]

is there a league world for blast furnace?

[fleet ibex]

I was able to just walk through

[hazy nebula]

does aboundence and slayer work?

[stark mist]

these? all blocked

[queen fable]

Yes, hover over the worlds and the descriptions for activities is listed. (652 for example is Blast Furnace).

[fleet ibex]

I meant the doors in the temple, up near the quest giver icon you’ll see a secret entrance to the east

[weary shadow]

I opened one, but forgot if I disabled it at the time as my gear was terrible.

[chilly pine]

do you have zeah unlocked? you can go to watson in person on the second floor to check

[stark mist]

I forgot which entrance. Did the quest like forever ago. lemme check the quest again

[fleet ibex]

It’s just a little sand boulder east of the hole

[weary shadow]

I don't but I'm sure I'll get surprised eventually

[fleet ibex]

If you don’t have zeah you can’t do mimic anyways

[stark mist]

ok found it finally

[cinder remnant]

Do we know the drop rate for each delve, cause it only show cumulative

[queen fable]

Now it's not a secret anymore. Gz haha

[fleet ibex]

Whatever the base drop rate is /5

[weary shadow]

Ah thank you, then just looking for a master clue now lol

[stark mist]

wish it wasnt a secret. I was looking for it for like 10min

[fleet ibex]

That just means it’s doing its job

[cinder remnant]

Is tormented bracelet worth it or just try and go for gloves

[cosmic isle]

What's everyone doing for afk soul fragments? I've gotten surprisingly few over my grinds so far

[cosmic isle]

gloves are so good for doubled accuracy on misses

[queen fable]

Harvesting any farming crops+Nature's Accord or, using thorns build/cannon at slayer mobs that drop bones or ashes.

[fleet ibex]

I vaguely remember someone saying abyssal demons

[tacit oyster]

you are supposed to do farm/tree runs for soul shards. There is also option to do abyssal demons in multi combat if regions allow it or killing dragons

[cosmic isle]

I can't find any aggressive multicombat mobs for afking it 🙁

[strange jacinth]

goraks

why am i so dumb

[queen fable]

What areas did you choose?

[covert wolf]

maybe i should have gone back to king barrage build this is slower than i though

[cosmic isle]

Kandarin,Mory,Tiranwynn

[queen fable]

Abyssal Demons slayer tower 3rd floor

[tacit oyster]

with those regions blue dragons would be best "afk" soul shards

[merry sphinx]

i read the patch notes I saw they've mentioned the priff rabbit

is it still a 6 hour spawn?

[tacit oyster]

should be shorter now, no idea what time it is now though

[merry sphinx]

I think its for next week actually

its in the future leagues vi fixes and changes section

if they do change it

[surreal kiln]

hardest league task

finally done

🤣

[rare hollow]

Hardest one is jekyll

[surreal kiln]

I have that one,

[rare hollow]

That fellow always spawns when I have no herb

[surreal kiln]

Leo is evading me only once

got emote

and mime twice only emotes too

[rare hollow]

Dunce event is quite rare too

[cinder remnant]

Guys what do you need pray pen for

Besides cG and thermy

[surreal kiln]

heard its nice at doom

[cinder remnant]

That’s where I’m at now and I though about resetting to get more accuracy

But have 100% pen

[candid harbor]

dear diary its 3rd day of farming medium scrolls for ranger boots, im slowly losing my mind, gonna find whoever designed this task and shove those clue scrolls up his arse

[toxic vortex]

Which one is this? The quiz with the dragon?

[covert wolf]

i just tested out powered staff and it's not what i expected
can i actually heal per hit or no? even with tumeken

[toxic vortex]

You need to have enough rune regeneration to do so

[cosmic isle]

I’ve only been able to get 1hp per hit with the water relic between air/water

It’s not a lot of sustain

[cosmic isle]

Cheers

[merry sphinx]

can u swap zalcano prio from xp to drops?

[toxic vortex]

Idk, I did my 1kc and bailed

[covert wolf]

i think i'm going to get back my lost king barrage after all

and clear colo 12

then i'm going back to king barrage build

[split pilot]

Is there a world/channel for leagues CoX?

[weary shadow]

659

[split pilot]

[split pilot]

Yeah, I see it now. Thanks.

[shadow burrow]

Anyone know a good way to start rune crafting ? About to unlock kandrin as my 1st area

[merry sphinx]

do u plan on taking soul harvest?

to start just kill sulfur naguas and hand in the sulfur drop to the npc in the chest room

[coarse pond]

Drink a cup of tea in Auburn Valley task not working for anyone else?

[split pilot]

Are you doing it in Aubervale or Valley?

just run to the big redwood stump and try there

[coarse pond]

It says Auburnvale is in Auburn Valley so I would assume I'm doing it correctly

[split pilot]

you have to go into the actual valley, not the town

[covert wolf]

ok mage tthorn kinda op on echo dragon

[coarse pond]

zzzz lol

but thanks a lot!

[uneven stag]

The game's trolling me. 8 echo hun kc and I got the blessing, but so far 39 total corrupted huns and only one armour seed

and 4 weapon seeds...

I guess I'm getting the 'genie's wish' version of spoon rng

[shadow burrow]

Nope took larceny

[uneven stag]

I took larceny and then reloaded into soul harvest

[coarse pond]

this is the move

[uneven stag]

pretty easy to afk farm soul shards on dark beasts since they're perma-aggressive

[loud beacon]

greenlogged doom under 100 deep delves https://i.imgur.com/qSZ5W61.png

[candid harbor]

67 goddamn medium scrolls how many more for ranger boots eat arse whoever made that pact

[weary shadow]

Yer...

[merry sphinx]

67 is what u expect in normal osrs damn

[weary shadow]

I'm 11 into elites and no masters yet 🙁

[mild barn]

Dang no updates about enhanced weap seed drop rates

[merry sphinx]

I have a master and runelite doesnt update on the hot/cold strange device clue

[rare hollow]

You're going dry

[rare hollow]

Rate is 1/80

What more do you want

[uneven stag]

I'm not, I'm just getting incorrectly spooned

5 seeds in 39 kc for a 1/10 drop

but 4/5 of them are the wrong seed

[timber quest]

Are you gonna go to 100kc for the task anyway? It wasn't going well for me either but cleaned up by the time I got that

[uneven stag]

maybe

[toxic vortex]

With how quick the echo fight is, no reason not to

[uneven stag]

The real question is do I get the 100 kc task voluntarily

[timber quest]

If you got the brain off 100% pp/water healing build it's only like 90mins maybe

[merry sphinx]

I completed the echo boss tasks at cg

[uneven stag]

that's another thing, I' hear people talking about getting a sub-60 second echo hun kill and I have no idea how

[toxic vortex]

1t powered staff with 100% prayer pen

[merry sphinx]

1t staff and 100% pray pen

[uneven stag]

oh but you know what I just realised I only have 75% prayer pen

[timber quest]

I guess thorns, I just had 1t staff and I think my pb was around 1min

[uneven stag]

yeah I have a 1t staff build

[toxic vortex]

Although the best I got was 1:00.6

[merry sphinx]

u cant make thorns work in cg

[tacit oyster]

cannot use thorns inside cg

[merry sphinx]

no shields

[timber quest]

Even had a god run where he spawned tornados only once so it was a lot of uptime

[uneven stag]

thorns and recoil don't proc in cg

[timber quest]

Ooo true I dumb ty

[merry sphinx]

my best echo hunllef time was 1:11 and I only had 75% pray pen

24 max hit

[tacit oyster]

hardest part about echo hunleff fight is not moving so you have more dps

[uneven stag]

maybe I go try kill echo thermy, that'd be my 4th unique echo boss and I can put that point into the last prayer pen I'd need

[merry sphinx]

so many rounds I had 3/4 tornados

[uneven stag]

do I need to be on task for echo thermy?

[merry sphinx]

hunllef stinks

[merry sphinx]

idk actually

maybe not

[timber quest]

Feels so bad losing dps even tho it's so cracked xd

[merry sphinx]

try it

[timber quest]

I remember thinking "I should switch to the bow" because again dumb

[uneven stag]

guess I'll go turn my one armour seed into a helm, put my blessing on and give echo thermy a lick

[merry sphinx]

some dude said he killed 80 echo hunllefs the intended way

crazy

[timber quest]

I got maybe 10kc on a fairy regular build, but that's cuz I wanted to learn hunleff

[merry sphinx]

I think I went like 10 kills normal but losing my mind

cos its way too click intensive for me

[timber quest]

My k/d ratio is still negative xD

After doing 100kc task hahahah

[merry sphinx]

I have to go back to do the perfect kill at cg

but I know I cannot do that lmao

[timber quest]

Is it a task?

[merry sphinx]

its a ca

[timber quest]

I seen normal gauntlet ca's was a task

Think I have like 16 reg kc cuz tryna 5:1 on 1t that's being driven by a dumbass just ain't the one xD

[merry sphinx]

its a task to do do both normal and corrupted

only 200 points tho

[timber quest]

Fuckkkk rip 200 points for me xd

[uneven stag]

mfw I craft the one crystal armour piece I can (helm) and it's got way worse tank stats than my serpentine helm

why do I even bother

[timber quest]

O7

[merry sphinx]

i cant do that shit either

I was trying on my normal account for ages

[timber quest]

Ye it won't be good until you get the full set, even then the helm adds like 5% I think

[merry sphinx]

the perfect kill just does me in

I have the take no damage off prayer tasks and the dont attack with the wrong style cas

but I struggle combining them

[tacit oyster]

at least it automatically stops attacking when hunleff changes prayer. not sure if 1tick staff will fail it though

[austere mirage]

Okay how hard is Echo Thermy?

[novel lily]

any good CCs not full? new to water mage. 😄

[merry sphinx]

its tuff with 1t

makes it a harder task

but I got rid of 1t relics anyway

[chilly pine]

if you can click floor and click prayer right after, its free

[merry sphinx]

I suck at click intense tasks

[austere mirage]

Hmmmmm clicking is hard

[merry sphinx]

but echo thermy was fine

[austere mirage]

Same

[merry sphinx]

I died like 10 times to start but once I got it

I done my kills easy

[chilly pine]

the thing he shoots needs to hit you when you stand on a new circle

[uneven stag]

to answer the question, you CAN do echo thermy without being on task

[merry sphinx]

nice

you should be on task anyway how u getting the orb without a task

[austere mirage]

You can?!

[rare hollow]

So does this apply for echo ggs as well?

[uneven stag]

I was on task when I got the orb

[merry sphinx]

ig it makes sense cos its instanced and you're not in the cave

[tacit oyster]

spooning 1kc orb with the 1 free diary kill

[rare hollow]

I've yet to get a gargs task been like 5 tasks and I'm on culling spree

[uneven stag]

unsure, I'm still on task for gargs

[rare hollow]

So I'm guessing my account hates gargs for some reason

[uneven stag]

and I got the lithic scepter already so that's never getting finished xD

[rare hollow]

Lmao

[iron river]

yay v ardorvis greenlog minus pet at 799kc

[rare hollow]

Barrows tasks is just get a damn greenlog

Easy points in there but hella dragged out grind even in leagues

[chilly pine]

did you turn off boss tasks? and using duradel?

[thorn marsh]

What determines the "value" of an item for the Minion to pick it up..?

Because I just set it to 50gp to try to filter out random grimy herbs I don't need, and it's still picking them up..

[austere mirage]

Okay i have a crossbow on!

[surreal kiln]

lol vardorvis hit me with the strangle attack when he died and now my character svivels like im drunk

[thorn marsh]

Which would imply it's using GE Value, which is fucking wild in a game mode where everyone is forced to be Ironman and the GE doesn't matter..

[austere mirage]

magic staff ready

[pure flame]

yo can someone send me a blindbag nally build please?

[chilly pine]

if 50 gp still picks up grimy guams, then its using grand exchange value

[thorn marsh]

Why..?

That makes no fucking sense..

[chilly pine]

the same value is used in the loot notification setting

[tacit oyster]

because ge value is more universally known

[thorn marsh]

But it's irrelevant in Leagues..

[tacit oyster]

alch value on most items is also irrelevant

[rare hollow]

I have boss tasks

[potent leaf]

Hey guys do I need to be in a task or skulled to get a ring from vetion? I’m reached over 600 kc still no ring

[chilly pine]

i would only turn on boss tasks if you want vardorvis

[rare hollow]

Need em

Vard grind, barrows grind

[covert wolf]

welcome home

[rare hollow]

Skull doesn't affect its just pure rng

[fleet ibex]

GE value usually reflects the actual value of the item vs its HA

[covert wolf]

can i actually afk on vardorvis with water mage?

[rare hollow]

Afk? Maybe

That range head will give you pain tho

So it's not full afk

If you get unlucky with Axe spawns you'll take damage and some bleed

Just learn the movement for the boss it's not very difficult

[thorn marsh]

Gods, I wish you could just put an item filter on the Minion instead of only being able to filter by GE Value..

[covert wolf]

i mean i have over 1k kc on vard so i know...

[chilly pine]

i dont think you can mage vardorvis

[covert wolf]

guess it's all damage from thorns

[thorn marsh]

You can kill Vardorvis with mage.. It's just a pain..

[surreal kiln]

kinda ye

[thorn marsh]

Water mage is fine since you can just heal through the chip damage, but any other mage might struggle..

[surreal kiln]

but its painful

so I just swap to dogger

and melt him away

🤣

[weary shadow]

You can just drop clues you don't want and you keep the steps ... I wish I knew this earlier

Had 99 elites just sitting there waiting to do the sled one

[covert wolf]

actually i can stand still on vard

just swap prayer and qte

but i guess i still like king barrage build after all

gonna pray on clearing colloseum 12 now

i failed another 3 times took a break

[austere mirage]

so i got melted

[real thicket]

🧀

[austere mirage]

i survived a round but missed the crossbow shot

so he prayed magic

[weary shadow]

Echo Thermy?

[austere mirage]

yeah

[past birch]

Has anyone noticed any difference with echo procs after this patch? I feel them way more frequent. I'm using tbow+quiver

It's like 9/10 attacks proc an echo, and out of those 9 attacks, at least 3 are double echos lol

[tight jay]

afk mining fastest xp, kandarin, mory and asgarnia?

[shadow burrow]

So starting runecrafting at level 1. Maybe just use a lamp?

[real thicket]

idk, something feels off , I was doing yama for 4 hrs yesterday and 2 hours today and after patch my average time to kill is like 30 seconds higher

something weird going on

[weary shadow]

With Echo I found just learn the movement fire and you'll be fine to do it slow, and don't panic when he mixes it up

[real thicket]

same with hydra kills, they're like 5-10 seconds longer

[past birch]

Depends, do you have any plans on taking soul harvest eventually?

[real thicket]

king's barrage cbow build btw

[past birch]

idk why some calcs show my tbow has more dps than dogger but I kill vard way quicker with dog

[austere mirage]

what the? i was on 49 life just got echo thermy to switch to range protect then i just instantly died

[weary shadow]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Sulphur_Nagua are also an option

[livid slate]

Anyone have any experience with how impactful this is on air/water mage?

[real thicket]

that is literally the best node on the entire pact tree

for anyone ranged

so yes, it's good

[fallow epoch]

anyone doing cox i would love to do a few runes

runs

[real thicket]

even halberd builds go get that node

[livid slate]

I'm unsure of which of these two I'd want to go:

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-102-106-107-108-109-112-113-114-122-133-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-53-55-56-58-59-60-67-68-71-74-81-84-87-93-96-97-99

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-102-106-107-108-109-11-112-113-114-122-133-135-44-45-46-53-55-56-57-58-59-6-60-61-67-68-7-8-87-9-92-93-94-96-97-99

[real thicket]

are armour are you wearing?

[livid slate]

Can either do maxed tank with justi etc or 50 prayer setup

[real thicket]

I find thorns was really underwhelming when I was wearing mage gear and had ancient spell access... I could just barrage annoying stuff, and the thorns damage was so low it didn't do much while bossing.. fell off hard midgame.

Felt way better with tank gear

[livid slate]

This is my current setup:

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-11-133-135-136-139-140-141-142-145-146-162-163-44-46-53-55-56-58-59-6-60-68-7-71-72-74-79-8-81-84-87-9-93-96-97-99

[real thicket]

the not thorns build is going to do a lot more dps, I'd honestly just skip thorns

depends what content you have left to do tho

thorns is great in sht like colosseum or inferno

[livid slate]

I just have one more drop to grab in colo I think

Other than finishing doom and farming mega rare vouchers

Outside that prob skilling for dragon cup

[real thicket]

maybe finish drop in colo and go air / dps no thorns mage for raids/endgame pvm

[livid slate]

So, you'd go the first one?

[fallow epoch]

please is there anyone running cox please

[real thicket]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-102-106-107-108-109-11-112-113-114-122-133-135-44-45-46-53-55-56-57-58-59-6-60-61-67-68-7-8-87-9-92-93-94-96-97-99

that one you posted

[chilly pine]

try asking in the leagues discord, invite code: vbhPUHU

[real thicket]

build is solid and it'll feel really good raiding tbh

you have near infinite sustain

[livid slate]

I'm unsure how impactful this node is:

But I only had two points left and that felt like the only impactful use of it

[merry sphinx]

its kind of pointless if u have air mage

[real thicket]

I think it'll be decent qol

only other thing you could do is go get 100% prayer pen

but honestly 75% on air mage is probably enough

[livid slate]

It already has it baked in, so that's covered

[real thicket]

oic

yeah, qol node

[livid slate]

I was tempted to cut powered stuff out and go fire capstone also

[merry sphinx]

already regen like 1/2 prayer points per cast

[livid slate]

Something like this: https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-100-101-107-108-109-112-113-114-117-118-119-122-135-136-139-140-141-145-146-44-45-46-55-56-58-59-60-67-68-69-71-74-81-84-87-93-96-97-99

[merry sphinx]

I cut powered staff and the air/water staff pacts

[livid slate]

Actually wait nvm

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-100-101-107-108-109-11-112-113-114-117-118-119-122-135-44-45-46-55-56-57-58-59-6-60-61-67-68-69-7-8-87-9-92-93-94-96-97-99

This one

[real thicket]

I don't think you need the powered stuff, but idk if fire is even worth it, at least it's aoe without ancient magic

[uneven stag]

40kc and I get my 6th seed drop... and it's my 5th weapon seed

i crai

[covert wolf]

yea i suck

have no idea of his mechanic

time to youtube again

[chilly pine]

stab 1 and stab 2, versus shield 1 and shield 2

[gray heart]

ellooo

[covert wolf]

easier to memorize the pattern from this simple text lol

now to memorize the animation

[chilly pine]

do you know in what order he does them?

[covert wolf]

i might need the highlight as well

[covert wolf]

idk

is it random or it's in order?

[chilly pine]

at first it's either stab 1 or shield 1

if stab 1, then it will either be stab 2 or shield 1

[cinder remnant]

So what happened to demonbane weapons being taking care of

There’s only one??

[covert wolf]

oh

[stark mist]

there's any tempross mass?

[covert wolf]

so far yeah

[uneven crane]

anyones tasks not counting?

[covert wolf]

yama hates getting bullied by demonbane bots

[chilly pine]

open the areas menu to trigger any missing tasks

[cinder remnant]

I just wonder if we’re getting some secret reveal half way through idk

[uneven crane]

i thought that would fix it but nothing so far

[chilly pine]

which one are you missing still

[uneven crane]

i try the good ol reset client

just did 50m prayer and nothing popped up and it counts as the 50m in 3 unless prayer dosent count but wiki says otherwise

[chilly pine]

3 50 mill in non-combats

[uneven crane]

excl attk str def mage ranged and hp.

[chilly pine]

prayer counts for your combat level, dunno why wiki would say that

[uneven crane]

neither

[copper gorge]

Prayer isnt listed in either

[uneven crane]

even my straight 50m prayer hasnt come through yet lol

most likeley bugged

[manic prairie]

thermy is so fucking slow

it should have like half its hp

going 50 dry on it sounds like hell

[graceful lynx]

how many crystal shards do i need to complete that pact task

[outer aurora]

Any recs on con power leveling methods?
Have about 80m

[chilly pine]

corrupting a weapon is 1000 shards

[covert wolf]

ok fully understand how sol heredith works now

going back in

[outer aurora]

Gl!

[past birch]

glglgl

Yesterday I was coaching a friend with colo, was so funny

Dude was just eating nonstop during sol fight and slowly killing him with thorns

[graceful lynx]

is it impossible to complete knights sword?

[chilly pine]

the old league methods wont work unless you have billions of gp, so the highest plank you can craft would be the fastest (i think mahogany)

[outer aurora]

Gotcha
So no cheaty way to just build crystal garbage

Hmmmm
Wonder what my best option here is

I wonder how much XP/hr elemental balances are

[chilly pine]

the level 77 one is 356 exp x 16 league multiplier

[past birch]

What's special about balances?

[chilly pine]

saves you time making planks, buying just elemental runes

[past birch]

So it's viable main game too?

[static notch]

no

[tacit oyster]

its very high cost so not worth in main game

[north dust]

thoughts on the 70% damage/+2 ticks pact for the crossbows? I still can't tell if it's worth it or not

[outer aurora]

So like...3.8kish?

[past birch]

It's just a bit more dps with crossbows. It's worth it

[chilly pine]

5696 exp per 2k ele runes each

[outer aurora]

That's not sooooo bad

[chilly pine]

the lower ones are more exp per rune, but slower obviously

[outer aurora]

Maybe do those for a bit till it slows down

Then go get a buncha planks or something

[north dust]

well I do have 4 resets still, worst case scenario I use one of them

[outer aurora]

I can't do mahogany homes with MTK, can I?

[static notch]

about a 20% damage increase, it's a high priority pact for that build

[north dust]

but it depends on what bolts you are using right?

[tacit oyster]

costs 80m from 77 to 99 with highest balances with 16x rate

[outer aurora]

Wait can I do mahogany homes with MTK???
It should be doable in K, right??

[chilly pine]

you can check ardougne one

[outer aurora]

I'll have to try that

Would be so clutch

[north dust]

I think you can use npc contact the contract girl?

idk

[tacit oyster]

yes can do mahogany homes, just pretty slow xp/h

[north dust]

mahog homes is chill

[tacit oyster]

fast only if you only have falador and also npc contact

[outer aurora]

Yeah just I won't actively hate myself

I do have NPC contact, so that's chill

[north dust]

power construction hurts my wrists

[outer aurora]

Yeah that's what I mean lol

Idk how it actually works but I'll have to give it a try

[tacit oyster]

npc contact might not even work without falador since i think only npc you can contact is amy

[chilly pine]

is it possible to repair rune pouches somewhere? i dont have access to desert for gotr or abyss npc