leagues-general

[tawdry carbon]

if your pvm chops are ok, you can stay thorns and branch and save a reset.

[modern ginkgo]

Thank you, I've only got 1 reset anyway but struggling to do anyhing like echo gargoyles

[tawdry carbon]

echo garg shouldnt be that much of a struggle.. its pure mechanics and requires basically no food/prayer as long as u dont mess up

[floral nova]

Gotta go think about trying to learn echo thermy, gonna get wrecked...

[modern ginkgo]

As long as I've played this game, it's only been the last year or two I've gotten into it properly

Never bossed before in my life

Leagues is the first ever attempt at jad as well

[amber sleet]

imo it's actually probably a really good opportunity for you to learn some mechanics in a way that doesn't feel horrible

like 99% of the hard stuff in this game kind of comes naturally after you just get the basic controls of the game down

[tawdry carbon]

so the way you fight the echo gargs with minimal supplies is
you glue to him melee range
on his attack tick, run to the side 2 tiles, dodge shadows

thats literally it

[amber sleet]

once it's muscle memory for you to swap to the right tab and click the same spot it becomes much easier for you to learn anything else in the game

[tawdry carbon]

just pick a direction and run circles around him like tekton

you dont have to pray anything

you dont have to switch gear

you just move and attack

[modern ginkgo]

FYI I'm melee only and learning mechnaics

Full barows, whip and obby shield

[tawdry carbon]

if you dont want to practice your movement you can tank range with pray but he hits 12x2 thru prayer potentially lol

yes, thats perfect

u can shit on echo garg easily

[simple hazel]

5:01 pb on nex with cb 1 hand wep

[slim crag]

[cobalt skiff]

is there a strat for the gauntlet with light weapons?

[tawdry carbon]

u do it normally

[slim crag]

Yeah.

You don't use light weapons

[cobalt skiff]

ive never done it :P

[tawdry carbon]

ur just doing regular gauntlet with +acc pacts

[cobalt skiff]

im new to osrs so yeah

[tawdry carbon]

its very easy minigame.

[amber sleet]

is the dagger not a light weapon?

[tawdry carbon]

yea no prob

as long as u have moderate reflexes

[slim crag]

It is but that's echo hunllef

[tawdry carbon]

he probs doesnt have echo unlocked lol

[amber sleet]

ah

true

[cobalt skiff]

not yet no

just unlocked tyranwin

[tawdry carbon]

yea then

just do it vanilla

u basically ahve +accuracy making it much easier anyway

its a very easy minigame

[cobalt skiff]

any tips? just get the armor + halberd + food or something?

[tawdry carbon]

you need 2 wep styles

so just build ur weps based on whatever 2 bosses u kill first

[cobalt skiff]

i do have prayer penetration in my build

75%

[tawdry carbon]

anything else or just prayer pen

if just prayer pen pick whatever and go to town lol

[amber sleet]

u prob don't want halberd if u arent confident with cg and don't have 7 tile

[tawdry carbon]

1 wep, t1 armor, food/egniol and go.

[cobalt skiff]

what would the best weapon be then?

[amber sleet]

a lot less room to move and attack without the halberd capstone

[cobalt skiff]

i have melee and magic 99

[amber sleet]

staff

[tawdry carbon]

staff

[cobalt skiff]

alright thank you

[tawdry carbon]

tbh id use halberd anyway

becuase its not that hard

you just dont stand on tiles or under him like an idiot

and just dodge torandos

[cobalt skiff]

is making the armor necesary?

[tawdry carbon]

no

if oyure decent enough u can go naked

dpeends on dps/skill

[amber sleet]

probably yes without mage pacts

just make t1 armor

[tawdry carbon]

3 of each mat > t1 armor

[cobalt skiff]

and what do i pray?

[tawdry carbon]

start range

he switches every 4 attacks

range > mage > rinse nad repeat

when he mages, he can turn off your prayer. just turn it back on

he has an animation when he switches combat style

[amber sleet]

pay attention for purple orb it's the one that turns off ur prayer

[tawdry carbon]

lightning bolts = magic

trapezoid shards = range

thats it

[tawdry carbon]

dont pay attention to color because thatll change based on modes

just pay attention for sound

it has a loud sound queue

also u get a lot of time ot turn ur prayers back on

[amber sleet]

is it a different color in normal?

i only ever did 1 normal then went straight to cg so i forget

[tawdry carbon]

the best tell besides color is shape

its more of a comet vs. the orbs

[slim crag]

Man, I'm still trying to debate whether to pick Minion or Flask. Running a magic build.

[tawdry carbon]

ive bene on that debate but im going minion purely cuz its thematic

if its worse oh well

[slim crag]

True.

[warm smelt]

go flask. minion is a bit boring tbh

[amber sleet]

as blindbag flask feels really nice for the sustain

minion would probably have technically been better maybe

but i do not regret taking flask

it pops off

[tawdry carbon]

flask is cool as hell but

its not thematic to me

as having a little demon follow me in the demon league

also youre a mage

you need a familiar

🤔

[slim crag]

Flask would probably be better simply because I'm still new to lategame content.

[amber sleet]

with melee pacts u get the 5 overheal hp spend which sets u on fire constantly

and the flask is big fire aoe

feels thematic to me

[tawdry carbon]

this one has a fire effect ?

[amber sleet]

ye

[tawdry carbon]

damn

[amber sleet]

it's like the little eclipse spec effect or something i think

[winged trench]

Can I drop these chewed bones if I got the dragon full helm already as a drop?

[slim crag]

The thing is I've always taken Last Stand in the previous two Leagues

[tawdry carbon]

ist ah ard choice tbh.

they are both cool

but im rolling the minion

[slim crag]

so I think I'm going to mix it up this time and pick Minion now that I think about it

[granite laurel]

trying to do gg without a ranged switch is not it, holy

[tawdry carbon]

i just meleed it

do u mean echo or regular

[granite laurel]

reg, with no range for dawn

just have to thorns it

[slim crag]

Plus, I picked the butler, so I might as well go in on the demon servants.

[granite laurel]

[tame flax]

huge drop

[tawdry carbon]

yeah just slap with melee thats what i did

[winged trench]

Anyone know if there are more task with chewed bones? Or nah?

[granite laurel]

[shrewd ermine]

i know "two handed shield" means dinhs. is off hand just anything like shields, defenders, etc.?

[tawdry carbon]

wat?? how do u get that messag elmao

[granite laurel]

dawn is in the air

[tawdry carbon]

i think the weird antlers coutn as off hand too

[granite laurel]

and dusk has a shield til dawn is down

[tawdry carbon]

it lets me melee both of them

maybe its cuz im using the +1 range node?

[granite laurel]

ye

[narrow epoch]

You can still do thorns damage lol

[granite laurel]

sure but its slow

[narrow epoch]

Maybe. It's how I handled the fight.

[tawdry carbon]

you just reminded me i have to finish the grotesque combat achievements

as long as i get hit by no mechanics for the 5x perfects thats it right? i cant remember what the CAs were i did them by accident

kill no heal, dont get hit by flashbang, dont get hit by firecage, dont get hit by falling rocks, what else?

dont get hit by the glwoing pillar, thats it right?

[next dust]

update: 3x imbued heart +1 shield half before Dark Bow

[winged sinew]

Minion or flask?

[next dust]

minion imo

noted drops 🙂

but for me he also works as an avas

[amber sleet]

both are strong

take the one u think is cooler

[next dust]

minion called me out for killing an enemy someone else damaged.

only seen it once tho

but it was funny

[winged sinew]

random drops like that is not what i want, if you could only tell him to pick only scroll boxes :/

[tawdry carbon]

where is tiranwin

[winged sinew]

so flask ig

[long trail]

priff

lletya

zulrah swamp

[tawdry carbon]

where is Ilfeen

[winged sinew]

here

[toxic vortex]

I don't think there are any other tasks that require it so yeah

[tawdry carbon]

ty

[tawdry carbon]

ttyty

[winged trench]

Thank you!

[next dust]

you can define the min value but he notes them

[toxic vortex]

gz on the helm though

peak fashionscape

[winged trench]

Thanks! Looking for the visage and it just dropped lol

[winged sinew]

but not only scroll boxes

[simple hazel]

fk yea i got dragon bolt (unf) now i get my onyx dragon bolt (e)

[winged sinew]

I took flask

[toxic vortex]

I'm stuck in demonic gorilla jail for the time being

[winged sinew]

Time for thermo nuclear smoke devil to feel my nuke

[narrow epoch]

Been there... did that...

[shrewd ermine]

i remembe toxic blowpipe got nerfed years ago. when is blowpipe good to use?

[toxic vortex]

I have all the zenytes already

[fickle thistle]

The ring of recoil has been helping but it still feels like my kill rate is 70/30

[toxic vortex]

figured I'd at least do the 300kc task

[latent rune]

is it a bug that 50 superior slayer creatuers gives 200 points, but 100 superior slayer creatuers gives 80?

[spring remnant]

What’s a good thing to get started on I just got the game competed the cooking apprentice quest and finding Ernest quest and leveled my combat to 12 I’m not really sure what Tod do next

[toxic vortex]

You are in the wrong channel my dude

#general or #old-school is more appropriate

[spring remnant]

Shit my bad idk what any of this stuff is

[toxic vortex]

its good. this is just something very specific so you won't really get the most applicable answers

[tawdry carbon]

WTF ive been wasting my time in karamja

[toxic vortex]

The wiki is your friend man

been telling you

[rugged pike]

After getting grimoire as my relic and unlocking all the prayers, i unlocked kandarin and it now has re-locked chivalry and piety?

how do i fix this

[toxic vortex]

you do the mini game thing

[little saddle]

water thorns runners are you going regen bracelet or tormented

[warm smelt]

fight 8 knights at camelot

[next dust]

attempt number 3

401 dark beast, 21 night beast so far

[tawdry carbon]

whats the sroprate of those thangs

[regal spindle]

so which items are you giving to the minion.........
Is your only option to do clues for zam affiliated?

[tawdry carbon]

i think inquisitor counts ?

[next dust]

and robes

and unholy blessing

[regal spindle]

Are any of them easy to obtain

[next dust]

any equippable

from cluescrolls?

cluescrolls drop a ton

[regal spindle]

From any source

[next dust]

everything is boosted

[toxic vortex]

pretty much anything that gives you zammy protection in gwd

[next dust]

kindof

[regal spindle]

Whats the meta for getting your minion to max

[next dust]

unblessed unholy necklaces wont work

while they are zamorak affiliated

[regal spindle]

Guess not many have reached their tier8

[opal hornet]

118 echo kc no enh, 13 armor seeds ._.

[next dust]

i has

[tawdry carbon]

boooo no azammy itemsms

[next dust]

do more

[fickle thistle]

Is minion a good tier 8 pick or is fervor better

[torpid trench]

whats the tankiest armor in kandarin/Varla/Karam? Is it just bloodmoon?

[cursive glacier]

You can also get from various things like wildy

[regal spindle]

Minion being able to loot for you while you just afk 10 mins at a time makes it worthwhile. Let alone the dps.

[cursive glacier]

Something drops zamorak robes there

[torpid trench]

Elder Chaos Druids drop their robes

[regal spindle]

Does something drop a zamorak item in tiranwynn, kabdarin, or morytania?

[cobalt skiff]

man the gauntles is humbling me lol

[torpid trench]

Do the abyssal demons in the abyss region accessed via fairy ring drop the whip?

[toxic vortex]

yes

[torpid trench]

[cursive glacier]

Yes

[dusk cedar]

I wish the attack runes would regenerate and not just the elemental runes.

[torpid trench]

Its not boosted tho I assume?

[toxic vortex]

should be

why not

[cursive glacier]

The zammy guys near ourania

[torpid trench]

They definitely do regen the attack runes. Ive been slipping by on 200 wrath runes for like a week now at 80% regen

[next dust]

night beasts giving 103k slayer xp is always nice tho

[fickle thistle]

Should I be switching to a ring of recoil or just wearing it when the snakes pop up? I have an Ultor I’ve been wearing.

[dusk cedar]

they never seem o regen for me. the amount is always going down.

[torpid trench]

If you dont have 100%+ regen, it will slowly go down

[dusk cedar]

I do not. My pacts are a little random. I'm not entirely sure how pacts work.

[torpid trench]

well then, as I said, they are definitely regenning, just draining slowly

Im down to my last 93 wrath, from the 200ish i mentioned before

[dusk cedar]

And I only have 10 pacts total.

[torpid trench]

same

[graceful lynx]

@torpid trench yes

[torpid trench]

yes to which question?

[graceful lynx]

oh mb whip drops

[dusk cedar]

the AIR runes are regening like crazy.

[torpid trench]

all g, thanks

[graceful lynx]

whats the dps of a fully specced imp?

[torpid trench]

You just notice them more often because when you regen, you see the number jump by like 8 or 12 depending on your spell

[toxic vortex]

thats really more like 230 gorillas

[torpid trench]

whereas when you regen your 1 death rune, it doesnt change the number at all, and so you dont really notice

watch closely and see how many times you cast and the number doesnt go down

[dusk cedar]

true

[torpid trench]

For the purpose of a thorns build, whats the tankiest armor to be gotten in Kand/Varla/Karam? Is it obsidian? Bloodmoon? etc?

I dont actually know Kandarin's content very well

[cursive glacier]

Pretty easy to calc try doing so yourself

[dense forge]

Might just be dragon gear lol

[dusk cedar]

why can't i transmute Mind Runes?

[torpid trench]

is dragon better tank than bloodmoon?

[torpid trench]

They made some weird choices as to the progression tree on runes and gems. Fire turn to chaos, or diamonds turning to jades

[dense forge]

You'd probably have to compare. I thought it was low def like the other moons armors but it looks like it's got some actual stats lol

[tough finch]

Anyone know the best way to splash with fire spells to build up damage? is it possible without a target?

[warm smelt]

Welp i also did 200 artio in addition to the 1k callisto.

i think jagex wants me to stop playing their game

[tawdry carbon]

this is always wroth it right?

[torpid trench]

looks like dchain is more than bloodmoon

[tough finch]

yes

[olive sapphire]

who's going to tell him?

[toxic vortex]

assuming you took kourend

[tawdry carbon]

oh i needk ourend lolp

[dusty axle]

if i take pacts that put my accuracy over 100%, does that mean i never miss a hit

[amber sleet]

no

[tawdry carbon]

where can i find a rabbit in tiranwin

[amber sleet]

accuracy is a contested roll vs the enemy's defense roll

100% increased just means your number will be higher than before

but it can still be lower than their defense roll

[torpid trench]

Should I build some prayer pen for these guys to make it simpler?

Or is it worth just rocking in with a dscim switch and sending it

im watermage thorns

[amber sleet]

75% prayer pen blindbag with ranged echos kind of blasts demonics

[warm smelt]

pen and afk

[amber sleet]

it's really chill

[torpid trench]

right well im definitely not doing a full respec for 1 pact to blindbag

[amber sleet]

yeah

[torpid trench]

but i could grab 25% prayer pen pretty easy i think

[amber sleet]

not worth but if u were already blindbag it would've been cool

[cerulean geode]

Splashing is dead. Crab remains. Crab Superior. All hail crab.

[tawdry carbon]

where is an easy place to find snails in mortalnaia

[tough finch]

You don't understand, the fire regen pact builds up damage per cast. you can bank up huge damage to use on bosses.

[amber sleet]

immediately south of the canifis fairy ring

just go into the swamp there should be snails right away

[torpid trench]

I have 10pts atm, can probably get 2 more. The rest are locked behind slayer atm, i just got my culling spree unlock

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-112-113-114-44-46-56-59-60-68

[dense forge]

Do the alch spells work for Regen?

[tough finch]

Only if you're already in combat

[torpid trench]

This is current tree, thinking Ill grab thorns starting effect and go from there

[tough finch]

like I was alching during regular thermy, i was getting regen. outside of combat, i wasn't

[austere mirage]

sooooooooooooooooooo i went to do knights waves, after i got to the 3rd guy i was confused why i wasnt attacking him
turns out i killed the first 2 by recoil

[narrow epoch]

46 kills to get an Abyssal Whip

[tough finch]

plus if you have transmute, your alchs don't use fire runes anymore.

[dense forge]

Oh dam I didn't realize lol

[foggy spindle]

There goes all of my luck, I’ve got the d2h, dragon pickaxe, and chaos ele’s pet under 40kc’s today

[olive sapphire]

closing in on 200 kc on Zulrah, no blowpipe

[cerulean geode]

Erm. What?

[torpid trench]

Its true

[dusk cedar]

can i have some of that luck?

[torpid trench]

Theres no cap to fire regen

So if you splash, but you regen the runes

[spring cipher]

arent kills like 10 seconds anyways

[torpid trench]

You still "charge" your next attack

Im thinking of dropping 1pt just to get the fire buff for echo amox

[spring cipher]

u dont need it

[torpid trench]

i dont, no

but it would make the grind faster and easier

technically i dont need any buffs, you can kick her to death

[dense forge]

Can definitely camp water surge and get kills in like a minute if you have thorns

[timber quest]

Found the funny chally tiles for echo kq

[torpid trench]

I do not have thorns

I might be able to get the basic thorns node before going to her, like the 5 chip dmg with shield equipped

but thats it

[toxic vortex]

they drop decent high level tree/herb seeds. there are tasks for zenytes and for balistas

and KC tasks for 150/300/500

[warm smelt]

1050 callisto kc

i got the hilt

[toxic vortex]

So speccing in to a pray pen with a 1t staff makes it pretty ez mode

[dense forge]

I got the first thorns pact from the echo amox kill, you got it

[torpid trench]

I know what they give, was asking about prayer pen or just send it

[toxic vortex]

Thats what I'm doing yeah

[tough finch]

I can splash fire spells to bank up the regen it does as damage for my next hit.

[tawdry carbon]

how do you acomplish this?

[tough finch]

I hit amoxliatl for like 200 something.

[toxic vortex]

I wouldn't do these long term if I had to actually do them properly

[tawdry carbon]

i click as fast as it lets me and it only does 1;16

[toxic vortex]

the prif course spawns these short cut things

[torpid trench]

lucky portal spawns

[tawdry carbon]

oh was i uspposed to click that portal lmao

[toxic vortex]

theres one particular shortcut that shaves off a good amount of time

yeah

[tawdry carbon]

how rare is it

[toxic vortex]

not rare

just random

its the portal that spawns right next to the first hole in the ground

[torpid trench]

took the missus about 20mins of running the course to get the lucky spawn

[toxic vortex]

after you jump off the top of the building

[austere mirage]

I will take my prayers ||Which i should have already got from grimoire but NUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu|| and go home!

[tawdry carbon]

i had a portal but it only shaved 4 seconds dman

wtf

[toxic vortex]

was is the right one?

[tawdry carbon]

hwo di k noiw

[toxic vortex]

I literally just explained it

[tawdry carbon]

ah ok

so juyst spam this ciourse?

[toxic vortex]

yeah, it shouldn't take long

[tawdry carbon]

iu got it

yahaaa

ty

[tall prairie]

is there any confirmation yet about deep delve/doom rates ?

[toxic vortex]

nope

[tall prairie]

://

[toxic vortex]

probably nothing wrong with it tbh

[merry sphinx]

ffs rng

[tawdry carbon]

is shades of morton minigame solo-able ?

[little wraith]

I think you need flamtaer bracelet

[tall prairie]

yeah im kinda on the fence since its the only boss where people seem to go hella dry

but could just be that the minority of people going dry is just really loud

[toxic vortex]

There are lots of examples of peopel getting spooned

[dawn mesa]

How long until piety and chivalry aren't locked with grimoir

[spring cipher]

cant u just do the knights training ground

it takes like 10 minutes

[amber sleet]

they might not have kandarin

[austere depot]

I thought they did that on purpose so that you can get the exp from the training ground (assuming it's the thing where you have Kandarin)

[spring cipher]

without kandarin, with grimoire shouldnt it be auto unlocked then

i know theres a bug where if u get grim in kandarin

it removes piety and chiv

[amber sleet]

idk i've heard people say grim is bugged in general with a lot of things

i didn't take it personally

[toxic vortex]

my clan is getting annoyed with me

[austere mirage]

i aint beating that

[tawdry carbon]

i have grim, whats bugged?

[toxic vortex]

grim can get bugged if you select grim as your relic and then unlock kandarin after

[austere mirage]

try to do the prayer you get with it

[toxic vortex]

it forces you to actually do the mini-quest thing to unlock it

[tawdry carbon]

wait i havent picked kandarin yet

[toxic vortex]

even though you have grim alreayd

[tawdry carbon]

oh no

[austere mirage]

if you dont have Kandarin do the prayers now

BIG points

[tawdry carbon]

yeah it works now

[toxic vortex]

the mini quest thing takes like 3 minutes

and gives a good chunk of xp

[kind cairn]

can you enchant noted rings?

[toxic vortex]

its really not an issue

[austere mirage]

Do you have 70 prayer? vcp

[tawdry carbon]

yeah i have 81

[austere depot]

There's points in it if you don't have the region? Very odd

[austere mirage]

brill did you use both prays?

[warm smelt]

35 venenaxis, 29 vetion, 1064 callisto. voidwaker done

[austere mirage]

Oh do you need the region for the points?

[austere depot]

I don't know but it's 99% a bug if not

And a bug that probably will result in retroactively removing points because it messes up point cap

[toxic vortex]

ive never seen them remove points

if anything they just give the task to everyone

[tawdry carbon]

are allotments worth xp or should i stick to trees

[austere depot]

I don't think they ever have before but they seem very serious about the region agnostic point cap thing, but yeah they could do that just as well

[toxic vortex]

there are some tasks tied to growing certain things

[amber sleet]

do u have the farming relic?

[tawdry carbon]

no

[toxic vortex]

they've already done it this league

[amber sleet]

probably trees then

[tawdry carbon]

crystal tree is good xp right

who do i buy bows from

[austere depot]

Yeah, but with tasks from other regions, it's gonna cause issues

[amber sleet]

herbs with the farming relic are pretty insane xp

[final depot]

am i being silly or does dr franekstrain never spawn

[amber sleet]

each torstol pick was giving me 30k or something

like per interaction, not the whole harvest

[tawdry carbon]

i was gonna reload endless harvest tho

[amber sleet]

that's probably a better option

[austere depot]

#leagues-general message
Yeah it's 100% a bug if you could use grimoire to get tasks from other regions, I don't know if you actually can

[amber sleet]

trees should be good enough, just longer

the farming relic doesn't even make trees any better because u can't 10x a tree

[kind cairn]

Can you enchant noted jewlery?

[spring cipher]

nope

[tawdry carbon]

i dont need to compost the crystal tree right

[spring cipher]

u can try tho

but i doubt it

[fickle jasper]

You don’t

It cannot die

[tawdry carbon]

oh this guy composted it

i was like wait am i doinbgthis wrong

[quiet spindle]

Anyone have a suggestion for slayer point boosting without culling spree? Duradel likes to keep giving me the same task b2b

[amber sleet]

can you reload into culling spree?

[toxic vortex]

yup

[amber sleet]

ngl doing a lot of tasks sounds really aids without it

[toxic vortex]

well, in theory

but otherwise just gotta git gud

[untold monolith]

hey is there anyway to get to dragontooth island? i dont have a ghost speak amulet

[worldly nest]

Anybody got a good suggestion on a place to farm bones quickly near a banki?

[amber sleet]

the wyrm graveyard in varlamore is near a quetzal

if u have whistle it's pretty fast to use that then evil eye to huey bank

i lied

i forgot the transmute needs to be noted already

ignore that

evil eye bank works though

[worldly nest]

how do i get whistle?

[amber sleet]

hunter rumors

did you take woodsman?

[worldly nest]

🤮

nah went forager

[amber sleet]

i see

idk how much worse they are without woodsman but

[worldly nest]

ty though ill take a look

[spring cipher]

if u do ur morytania diary u can prob claim and use mory legs

[amber sleet]

if you did hunter rumors before unlocking any other zones with woodsman it was like 2 hours or less to 50 rumors and 99 hunter

i did that and got whistle, 99 hunter, all the quetzal spots and my mixed hide to start using for early pvm

[fair swallow]

anyone wana do some yama?

[tawdry carbon]

how do you upset the sandwich lady?

[worldly nest]

take something she didnt ask you to take

so if she says 'have some bread' take a cake or something

[fair swallow]

always take the cake

[tawdry carbon]

how do i butter a potato
how do i churn butter

[amber sleet]

there's a butter churn south of civitas iirc

or west?

one of the two

[worldly nest]

milk to a butter churn near the farming patch in fortis

[uneven laurel]

Just hit the mega-rare table on a master clue scroll. Three cabbages, of course.

[tawdry carbon]

then how do i butter it

[worldly nest]

use the butter on the potato

[amber sleet]

u bake potato then use butter on potato

[tawdry carbon]

how do i bake a potato

[amber sleet]

i am not sure that one's too difficult for me

[tawdry carbon]

nvm got it

[late helm]

This ain’t chatgpt

[tawdry carbon]

i did it

i made a butter and a butter potato

okm lets do some random bronze ones

[austere mirage]

Chatgpt how do i kill Amoxliatl when i am bad at the game?

[tawdry carbon]

i can help u kill it

[austere mirage]

This is the quest one xD

[sterile fern]

how do you interrupt dooms charge without access to demonbane weapons?

[tawdry carbon]

oh not echo amox?

Just walk dawg

[austere mirage]

nope

i cant walk

i am mage

[tawdry carbon]

u can walk and mage

[scenic kiln]

Hey guys, what relic would you choose next?
My current ones:
Abundance > Hotfoot > Map of Alacrity > Transmute > Larcenist > Culling Spree

[austere mirage]

i need my laylines!

[fair swallow]

@sterile fern the weapon from echo amox is 10% demon bane

[marsh haven]

anyone wana toa

[little wraith]

is minion good as the tier 8 relic?

[sterile fern]

thank you

[tawdry carbon]

where acn i find a moss giant in tranwanran

[crystal kelp]

in the dungeon

[tawdry carbon]

ugh

thamk you

[little wraith]

dungeon

[tawdry carbon]

the wiki had me run here

[little wraith]

lol

[tawdry carbon]

Cannot actually be fought, as this particular giant is only visible when the player is inside the walls of Prifddinas.
then i read this

lmao

[little wraith]

you can also kill the bloodveld for a task in dungeon

[fringe lake]

does the decanter in nardah work now#

[little wraith]

worked for me

[narrow epoch]

Does anyone know if the 'regenerate 1 water rune for charged staff' make those charged staff shots count as a water spell for the 'water spells deal increased damage the higher health you have' pacts?

[austere mirage]

i did it!

[next dust]

can someone ask a mod if they forgot to boost dark bow droprate for me?

can you give me a little bit of streamer client?

just for a min

[little wraith]

I got 5 dark bows from 200 yesterday

[next dust]

ive gotten THREE imbued hearts

i already HAD one

[solid flower]

Ok so where am I getting clue scrolls from? Currently only have tir unlocked as well as the start ones.

[little wraith]

puro puro

unless you have larcenist

[pure karma]

why cant we wc the redwood that are here?

[crystal kelp]

Jagex hate you

[spring cipher]

cause peepeepoopoo

[little wraith]

I wonder about this every time I'm in vale

[austere mirage]

i turned running off for a second.......

i move so slow

[pure karma]

i kinda hate how many tress are in kourend and valramore that you cant cut down

its most trees here

[untold monolith]

medium tasks? i read on reddit that they werent possible or something

[spring cipher]

yea most of them are just scenary and not interactable

[solid flower]

I hate puro puro

[spring cipher]

do u have perdu

[tacit oyster]

decorative trees, gotta be realistic. all cities have them irl too

[little wraith]

I prefer that over what ever is happening in prif

[pure karma]

its a forest

i should be able to commit genocide on all trees

[tranquil pond]

it's really not any different from karamja

[untold monolith]

not sure what that is but i realized i can tp to my clue step with the reward item from clues lol

[slim crag]

What's the easiest way to get Zamorak items without the Wilderness? Medium clues?

[little wraith]

your next best is like slayer monsters or guards

[tacit oyster]

I hate that i dont have clue relic since i have to get ranger boots now for bis item and demonic pact

[pure karma]

same

[spring cipher]

the guy that sells ur untradables/lost diary items

[pure karma]

i hate puro puro

[tawdry carbon]

me too

i caught the dragon impling and left

[toxic vortex]

They fixed it

[next dust]

finally

26th night beast

[toxic vortex]

They auto-completed the task for the ectophial

[little wraith]

puro puro is 3rd worse piece of content behind mage training arena and rc

[tacit oyster]

honestly not terrible pact tasks left. already got all cerberus crystals and at 20kc at cox

[toxic vortex]

Now you can complete the medium diary and get legs 2

[tacit oyster]

need to complete 2 for full pact tree

[next dust]

squeal of fortune

[spring cipher]

bellator ring is a pact???

whew

im glad i didnt pick asg

[tacit oyster]

in asgarnia, used to be awakened whisperer kill. changed to ring

[toxic vortex]

Fair

Although I could probably muster an awakened kill before bellator

[tacit oyster]

havent tested if flask clears insanity, would be easy if it does. if it doesnt have to do all mechanics

[untold monolith]

ok thx im noob ill look that up

[tacit oyster]

might clear sanity if i die and revive with it using it in 1tick time window if not just outright whenever used

[spring cipher]

[[perdu]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Perdu

[spring cipher]

:3

[near bison]

is there a tele to get to morty faster?

[untold monolith]

tyy

[near bison]

using gargoyles atm but kinda tedious

[wild wagon]

Depends on which you picked on tier 3 I believe.

[spring cipher]

if u have a poh portal u can build a kharyell teleport
or use a ectophial

[near bison]

oof so gargoyl is closest

[little wraith]

barrows tele from arceuus spells or morytania legs 3

[tacit oyster]

league area tele can get to morytania but that is 8sec channel i think

[near bison]

i shoulda specified canifis lol

for slayer master

[little wraith]

slayer ring to tower

[merry sphinx]

sick joke from jagex my pet drops are insane but dry on every item ive gone for

[tacit oyster]

i think the league monument is at middle of canifis but it has that long channel time

[little wraith]

or fairy ring cks

[tawdry carbon]

elemental balance is so mcuh clicking
any better advice for construction ?

[near bison]

oh snap slayer rings have a use in this game lol

[spring cipher]

ancient spellbook kharyell teleport is prob fastest

[tacit oyster]

lunar npc contact so dont even need to walk there

[little wraith]

^

[austere mirage]

soooooo close! i can taste it!

[pure karma]

can i use kings barrage on whisperer?

[tacit oyster]

if you have accuracy pact yes

[spring cipher]

well if u havent tried u should try it

[austere mirage]

i wore the necklace! that was 30 points

[tacit oyster]

the ghosts part in shadow realm needs another weapon though

[spring cipher]

does natures recurve bounce

[austere mirage]

Flow state here i come!

[tacit oyster]

no

[pure karma]

they do? i thought venator bow worked

[spring cipher]

sadge

[pure karma]

how much damage do it take if i dont do the ghosts?

[spring cipher]

venator bow works yea

[tacit oyster]

venator bow works but requires desert

[pure karma]

i found the fastest way to do dooms shield is to outheal it lmao

[tacit oyster]

60 damage and 60 sanity damage i think

[pure karma]

maybe i can cheese whisperer

[tranquil pond]

jeez, awakened vardorvis is CRAZY strict on execution, mess up anything and you basically instantly die

[pure karma]

fuck it we ball

ill see what happens

[spring cipher]

yea and now imagine doing it without buffs and relics

lmao

[tranquil pond]

i legit have no clue how people do it

[cobalt skiff]

how do you guys deal with the + window shape in corrupted gauntlet while the beams are going, i keep dying to it :(

[tranquil pond]

needing to tick walk constant scythes

pray against almost invisible projectiles from the heads

[tawdry carbon]

does anyone here have suggestion for construction training?

[spring cipher]

majority of the damage u take is from axes so as long as u dont get axed off prayer

i think ur fine

[pure karma]

where do i get this? lmao

[tawdry carbon]

elemental balance is very click heavy

[spring cipher]

i wanna say perdu

maybe

[tacit oyster]

npc inside building north of the hole

[spring cipher]

ohh

[surreal kiln]

go back to the bench

[hazy anvil]

Mahog logs into planks @ sawmill in aubernvale but its expensive

[tranquil pond]

the axes still do like 40 damage on prayer

[tawdry carbon]

where get mahog log? transmutation?

[hazy anvil]

YEs

[spring cipher]

dodging the axes would make u take 0 damage on prayer

[tranquil pond]

i don't know if i can heal fast enough to tank through all those scythes

[spring cipher]

not 40 lol

u dont tank the scythes

[tranquil pond]

oh, dodging

well yeah

[pure karma]

where?

[tranquil pond]

yeah, "just dodge"

[spring cipher]

if u farm reg vard main game u can do it

cause u dont have to focus on praying the mage range attack

[pure karma]

i got it

[tranquil pond]

there's so many of them i have no clue how you dodge, i've been walking over them

[spring cipher]

focus on axe skip and eat the other dps cacuse they dont hit you

so u just juke through it

[tranquil pond]

wait, ignore the heads?

[pure karma]

is vard easier with thorns?

[tranquil pond]

almost everything is easier with thorns

[spring cipher]

yea cause they do less damage.
u get slapped and only eat 50 damage, u get hit by the heads they dont hurt nearly as much

cause u can outheal that

what u cant out heal is the barrage of 40 damage axes on prayer

and 99 damage off prayer

[tranquil pond]

ye

fair enough

[spring cipher]

so u could focus on just skipping the axes only

[tacit oyster]

Awakened leviathan was pain with crossbow. Leviathan enrage overwrites the crossbow always max hits pact

[spring cipher]

and tank everything else and out heal that

[tranquil pond]

i was mostly doing the inverse for regular vard, pray and tank the scythes

[spring cipher]

yea dont tank the scythes the scythes hurt

they are the main damage source ur gonna get nuked by

[near bison]

wait, porcine of interst is required to make slayer helm, but that requires a different zone to complete

is that intentional? Is it not required to make them in leagues? Pact point locked behind that

[spring cipher]

u dont need the quest

[near bison]

nice

[spring cipher]

cause making the slayerhelm doesnt require the goggles

[near bison]

ah

[lone bloom]

cant tank kraken boss w/ full blue moon gear 🙁

[spring cipher]

if u know how to axe skip then u can just not do any mechanic other than axe skipping

[tranquil pond]

i've still not fully figured out the trick to avoid the scythes yet

[spring cipher]

u havent farmed main game yet right

[tranquil pond]

i find i'm often 1 tick off

nope

[spring cipher]

do u have his axes marked?

[tawdry carbon]

roughly how many mahogany planks for 99 constructoid?

[tranquil pond]

yeah

[spring cipher]

like highlighted

[little wraith]

5800

[tranquil pond]

yeah, true tile

i basically just go between these two tiles to try and dodge the axes

[spring cipher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Li7l-xUgB8

[tranquil pond]

it seems to usually work

[shy light]

B2b clogs for my last 2 pieces! Green logged barrows!

[tawdry carbon]

what is the fastest way to get bulk logs to transmute? do any shops sell logs ?

[spring cipher]

if it spawns underneath you , you have to juke diagonally and then run through the axe that spawned underneath you

[little wraith]

transmute teaks from wc grind if you have anima bark you can get vouchers to double the planks per log

[tranquil pond]

yeah, i tend to stand on the tile i'm currently on

since they do damage when they spawn

[tawdry carbon]

i havent done woodcutting yet

ive done basically no skilling outside hunter

guess thats another reason to get endless harvest w reload huh lol

[spring cipher]

if they spawn underneath you while ur backed in the corner, u have to move into position to axe skip it

i think redeye jedi's video will explain it

[little wraith]

hunter sacks can give logs

[tranquil pond]

is doing the skip easier from the cardinal directions rather than the diagonal directions?

[spring cipher]

but awakened vard can only be axe skipped from the corners of the arena rather than the midle

[tranquil pond]

ah

[spring cipher]

so the corner skipping ur doing is fine

[tawdry carbon]

do i need a spiecific tier of nail for mahogany logs or iss teel ok

[spring cipher]

but u just have to mentally tell urself

[little wraith]

no nails

[spring cipher]

"i can skip the axes, ill heal up , dont focus on the prayer switches"

[tawdry carbon]

oh no nails sick

[spring cipher]

and u can pull it off

[tawdry carbon]

just give me the controller ill beat him for u bro

[spring cipher]

ofc real awakened will be giga tough but this is a way u can cheese it in leagues

[mighty zodiac]

hypothetically if you blindbag with a scythe does it activate for each hit

[cobalt skiff]

im so pissed, i was wondering why i was playing so bad

turns out im in an america world (im from eu

[amber sleet]

no

blindbag is only 1 proc per attack

[tranquil pond]

i wish i didn't need to use an awakener orb for each attempt

[amber sleet]

echos can proc on multi hit

but iirc scythe is technically all 1 hit even thought it's 3 splats

so it actually doesn't multi proc echos either

which is why boppers are bis i believe

[cobalt skiff]

only the varlamore echo weapon does that

[amber sleet]

they double proc echos

[spring cipher]

my friend told me to beat awakened vard in the main game it took them 250 orbs lol

[tacit oyster]

just need to get used to the ping, love 1 tick delay on every action

[spring cipher]

its not easy

even in leagues

[amber sleet]

iirc scythe on large targets is still very very close to the same dps as boppers though

[cobalt skiff]

bro i was going insane xd

[amber sleet]

like pretty much exactly the same dps

so if u want to use it for the style points u aren't really losing anything

[tawdry carbon]

wait

mahogany tables arent taht much more xp than elemental balance ?

[amber sleet]

not really no

that's why i did balances to 99

[tawdry carbon]

bro wtf

[amber sleet]

probably cost a lot less than balances though

[tawdry carbon]

i have 1bil gp atm

[amber sleet]

then yeah do balances

[spring cipher]

yes

[tawdry carbon]

i thought itd be so much more

gdi

lmao

[tranquil pond]

jeez, that's more money on orbs than my main's ever had probably

[tawdry carbon]

how many runes to 99

[amber sleet]

iirc i used 3.5 million of each element?

[spring cipher]

i had another friend do their blood torva also like early into dt2 release and they spent a total of 1b in orbs to clear it cause each orb was like 6m

[amber sleet]

could be wrong

[pure karma]

whisperer tp is weird, it doesnt put me infront of the boss like everything else does

[spring cipher]

🤣

[tawdry carbon]

why does your game look like this

[pure karma]

hd

[tawdry carbon]

official ?

[next dust]

hm i cant get Chaeldar to give bosses (amox)

[pure karma]

lmao

[tawdry carbon]

safe to use mod?

[pure karma]

its 117 plugin

[next dust]

i have like a boss taken?

[pure karma]

makes sailing look amazing

[next dust]

she wont give amox?

[amber sleet]

chaeldar doesn't give boss tasks

go to duradel if u have no other slayer masters

[next dust]

wiki lying?

[late helm]

Eh I find the machine gun powered staff build with 75% prayer pen really strong and stress free. It minimizes my mistakes and misclicks because I play on mobile

[next dust]

on the amoxliatl page

[amber sleet]

hmmm

[tawdry carbon]

i play on mobile too

[amber sleet]

i swear wiki said chaledar doesnt give boss tasks

but i could be dumb

[tawdry carbon]

if u can learn to pvm like that, no worries

[tranquil pond]

gaaahhhhhhhhhh

[little wraith]

lesser nagua is the task

[spring cipher]

i mean ur close this time at least

see

[tranquil pond]

my last orb 😔

[spring cipher]

sadge

its okay u need full virtus anyways

[tranquil pond]

true

[tawdry carbon]

tbhg some pvming is a lot easier on mobile

[spring cipher]

but good attempt

[tranquil pond]

well, i do have zeah, so virtus will be replaced by ancestral anyways

[spring cipher]

c:

[tawdry carbon]

switching and prayer is easier on mobile, movemeing camera is easier on keyboard

triple jad was 200x easier on mobile for me

[pure karma]

e

ez

[tranquil pond]

honestly, i need to finish my confliction grind

that was def a confliction diff

[late helm]

Eh we get 5 resets. For most people, they don’t need that many. That sounds like a hoarding fallacy to me like when people hoard strong items in RPGs and never use them. Just use it and enjoy

[tacit oyster]

i have 2-3 extra pact resets, i could go test bow build after im done grinding

[late helm]

Well for me, the less swaps between the prayer tab and inventory on mobile the better. I can focus on movement and prayer swaps which are the most important in Echo CG regardless of method you use

[tawdry carbon]

some ppl are out of resets

again, i do pvm on mobile and on kb+m..
if u already are a master of the gauntlet, then go ahead and cheese it.

i did 50 tob on mobile

since camera barely has to move until verzik

some ppl want to use league to "learn" content and as @spring cipher says, if u cheese and dont learn, be ready to be smacked down in the main game

[spring cipher]

exactly thank you for understanding my point

[tawdry carbon]

but if ur just trying to crush points and have excess resets, 100% do staff prayer pen. its insanely quick clearance

[late helm]

I’ve already done CG on main game, that doesn’t mean I don’t want to cheese content in leagues. In fact that’s the whole point of leagues

[tacit oyster]

to learn in league you remove all pact points after you grind your gear

[tawdry carbon]

i always understood ur point. my argument was im just different

[spring cipher]

then go for it

lol

[tawdry carbon]

yea then go for it lol

but if ur missing some cas for that juicy zuk helmer

and gauntlets whats holding you back...

[spring cipher]

best of luck learning main game, tob is alot of fun tho we are getting raids 4 in a few months tho so i guess everyone is learning from the ground up

[late helm]

I wouldn’t gatekeep people from trying new content in leagues.. they are using the tools given to them

[spring cipher]

if ur close to being gm, gauntlet cas will be the last thing holding u back tbh lol

[tawdry carbon]

u never know! some ppl rly hate prep

[crystal kelp]

All of downstairs is an instance, same reason why gravestone is upstairs

[tawdry carbon]

its not gate keeping.

[tacit oyster]

normal gauntlet speedrun is pain even if you do perfectly

[spring cipher]

people should always try, thats what leagues is for
i just think people should curb their expectations for the main game when they swap over to try it for real

👀

[pure karma]

my gravestones at yama

[winged trench]

What’s the league boosted drop rate?

[tawdry carbon]

for wat? 5x generally is what the tooltip says

[spring cipher]

also last night i learned that league hmters dont know how to hmt at all and cant even clear without trying to bruteforce

[amber sleet]

2x then 5x unlocked by tier 4 relic

[spring cipher]

5x is the cap at tier 4 or 5

[tawdry carbon]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Boosted_drops

[amber sleet]

but iirc the boost is only for certain items

[tranquil pond]

man, vardorvis drops are kinda really shit outside of the big ones

[amber sleet]

u can see which ones on the loot boost page of the wiki

[tawdry carbon]

u wanna run some hmt

[spring cipher]

thats true i hate gauntlet

[winged trench]

Visage… 1.6k kills in and it’s no where to be seen

[spring cipher]

ive ran most of mines last night with friends

i got most of the stuff i need

[late helm]

For sure - I think they can do both.

Like I never tried Sire before until this leagues but now I know how his stun works, miasma, portal, etc. even though I blasted him in 30 seconds. I saw all his mechanics, and I don’t need to suffer as much if I want to learn in main game now

[spring cipher]

1.6k ur not even on rate

for one drop

[tawdry carbon]

fr

[spring cipher]

lol

[winged trench]

Okay that’s good to know

[slim crag]

pog

[cobalt skiff]

ngl, the gauntlet shouldnt be something you have to farm in leagues. they shouldve made it a 1 and done

[winged trench]

Got the dragon full helm as a drop already

[mint stone]

I'm at 3.2k kc didn't get my visage yet lol

[amber sleet]

not soul harvest?

what did u do it with?

[spring cipher]

since its so damn rare i wouldnt even expect the drop to happen till like 5-6k kc

im ngl

lol

[slim crag]

It's SH.

[amber sleet]

oh...

[winged trench]

At least it’s afkable

[late helm]

They did help in a way - echo kills are at least 3-4x faster kills than main game + drop modifier

[slim crag]

[tacit oyster]

they made it the most common echo orb at 1/15 drop rate, pity drop at 30 kc

[spring cipher]

they can but after every leagues i see a influx of people who say they can do x content cause they learned in leagues and then completely flop lmao

[cobalt skiff]

trust me, a lot of new players. (including possibly me) will hit this wall and just quit

im here for fun, and this is not fun

[late helm]

I have to figure out my RC solve still without SH

[pure karma]

diaries

[amber sleet]

^

diaries then ourania altar

[late helm]

I lamped up to 78 rc using quest and diary lamps already

[amber sleet]

or if u are zeah u can do arceuus

[winged trench]

Afk at the moons people with thorns and turn the essence

[spring cipher]

tbh even if it feels like a long grind, it pales in comparison to any actual grinds main game

[toxic vortex]

probably take longer but it is an option

[spring cipher]

it just sucks cause its limited time

[amber sleet]

that's horrible xp rate even with thorns

like absolutely completely terrible

[winged trench]

Yeah but it’s chill. And then do higher exp RC when it’s unlocked

[late helm]

Like 30k/hr?

[tacit oyster]

i get that people want to have fun but do people actually expect to spawn in with all the best gear

[amber sleet]

you can karamja lamp rc with 0 prereq

no need to slave away at the naguas

[amber sleet]

something like that i think i could do the math again

[cobalt skiff]

that may very well be, but to be honnest. i dont care at all about the main game. and so many others like me

[late helm]

Probably. At least they’re exposed to the content tho

[next dust]

pegasian crystal obtained

[tacit oyster]

for crystal blessing even at worst you are only doing 30kc in cg and then 30 kc in echo hunleff

[late helm]

You don’t even need enhanced weapon seed for any meta build

[cobalt skiff]

????????? enhanced armor seed is like the main smithing method. and there's literally an echo boss locked behind it sir

[spring cipher]

i guess its cause im so used to main game grinds that any dry streak here might feel like it sucks but im reminded that ive spent 50x on something else

lol

[late helm]

How dry are you going on armor seed?

[cobalt skiff]

45

[spring cipher]

45 lol

okay thats not bad

[fair swallow]

took me 161 for enhanced

[tacit oyster]

i did 630 enhanced crystal teleport seeds for 50m crafting and smithing without even touching gauntlet on 2nd acc

[spring cipher]

when i think dry in leagues its like "oh you're 275 kc and no drop okay yea ur fucking dry"

[cobalt skiff]

mind you, im not good at this game. i dont always kill

[crystal kelp]

I meant in main game

[amber sleet]

ok it's not quite that bad but it's still pretty bad. assuming you get 1000 kills per hour it's ~187.5k xp per hour

[spring cipher]

i remember having to re teach them methods but they will insist the leagues methods will work and then die and suddenly i dont wanna teach anymore lmao

[amber sleet]

not sure if 1k per hour is reasonable, a friend showed me his sulphur nagua kill log and said it took him about an hour of afk but he might be cooked

[spring cipher]

@low tangle my current progress 😃

[late helm]

I thought you were talking about enhanced lol

[cobalt skiff]

?

you guys use too much abreviations to people that literally play the game for a week lmao

[late helm]

There is no such thing as enhanced armor seed

[spring cipher]

tbh most people would assume you would know

also yea

theres no such thing

its just armour seed

and enhanced crystal weapon seed

[cobalt skiff]

yeah ive noticed that about basicly everything in the game xd

it makes learning the game really hard

[amber sleet]

how many karambwanji do i need to catch like 16k karambwans?

2x the amount?

[spring cipher]

yea its easier to get into leagues if ur a daily player

than a leagues only lol

we abbreivate alot of things

[feral sable]

I have a farming contract to grow a Jangerberry bush, I already have one down and grown. Is there a way to make that bush count or do I need to replant?

[spring cipher]

replant

[feral sable]

Damn

Thanks

[smoky raft]

roughly double, yeah- though it depends on your fishing level (and relics)

[spring cipher]

at least its fast in leagues

[amber sleet]

which relic affects it?

[smoky raft]

Endless Harvest gives double

[amber sleet]

true

i didn't factor that into my calc

ok

good info i can stop catching karambwanji now

[feral sable]

True, I just used me last Seed for this bush
Forgetting to redeem a contract first just incase
So I gotta get another one 🫠

[lone bloom]

kraken boss drops more blood runes than you can use against it, free bloods

[next dust]

echo amox is currently the worst imo

dont enjoy this

[modern ginkgo]

Still struggling lmao just gave it another go I ain't doing so well

[spring cipher]

is it? i find echo moxi enjoyable actually

[next dust]

it makes no logical sense

ive died to it more times than it took me to figure out how to beat Hunlief and Hespori combined

[lone bloom]

metronome plugin was the problem solver for me at echo amox. i timed my clicks with the beeps

[next dust]

its a super "google it boss"

i despise googleitdesign

[spring cipher]

enrage is just attack every tick and step back every tick

[next dust]

yh but i have to use boppers

[spring cipher]

attack move 1 tile attack move one tile etc

[next dust]

theyre slow

so idk

[amber sleet]

i did echo amoxi blind in 4 attempts

wdym

[late helm]

Halo I freakin love you man

[amber sleet]

u just move

[spring cipher]

during enrage no matter what weapon ur always 1 ticking

[amber sleet]

2 tick but yeah

[next dust]

i just keep randomly taking 20+ damage

idk why

and getting oneshot

[amber sleet]

u need to move away from the attacks 1 tile

[rocky harbor]

transmuting while doing other activities... is that a limited thing?
like i can do it while mining but not fishing?

[next dust]

yes i am

[amber sleet]

u can see the aoe pattern has a hole in the middle

[next dust]

but then i just take a ton

from the floor when im not one it

[amber sleet]

u must not be moving 1 tile

[toxic vortex]

Or moving too late

[next dust]

it just feels like my character is So slow

[spring cipher]

ye it took me a few fights to get used to it

[next dust]

and doesnt move when i want him to

[toxic vortex]

What is your ping/latency?

[next dust]

23

[amber sleet]

to me that just sounds like maybe you are trying to be too greedy with attacks

you get to attack 1 time with a 4t weapon in the first phase before u must move

but make sure she does her attack animation before u move

or else she will target where u are moving to

[next dust]

23 13 15

[spring cipher]

i can dodge them just fine

[amber sleet]

then in the final phase u need to move every 2 ticks

[spring cipher]

and im playing on 70 ping

[amber sleet]

sometimes u might not attack in time because you take too long to click back

don't be greedy, just make sure you move every 2 ticks

[next dust]

im mostly blaming the slow weapon

it doesnt attack sometimes

[spring cipher]

doesnt ur attack speed get increased during enrage

i swear i was attacking way faster during enrage

[amber sleet]

yes but attacking every 2 ticks consistently is hard for a lot of people most likely

sometimes u are a moment too late and it puts your attack cycle a tick behind

which can get u hit if u dont focus on moving as priority

[latent oracle]

Can you thrall and minion?

[next dust]

its hard when the wepaon doesnt action on that tick

i can dothe movements. but its difficult when the game doesnt respond as i expect it to

[spring cipher]

indeed

they count as two seperate things

[next dust]

proof:

[latent oracle]

Hell yeah

Is minion or flask better for blindbag?

[spring cipher]

idk tbh

[tawdry carbon]

not 100% smh

[spring cipher]

but flask does let u do stupid shit for 3 seconds

lol

[tawdry carbon]

im picking minion

i have to

hes fuckin cute

https://giphy.com/gifs/frog-wizard-elmrealm-oFZEgRSqvlcKvOa8IP

[latent oracle]

That sounds right up flasks alley

[amber sleet]

i went flask and dont regret it tbh

it solves sustain for me

[latent oracle]

I think I will too

[next dust]

100%ing this is on the same tier as Grandmaster OSRS, or harder

[amber sleet]

minion is probably better in general maybe

[spring cipher]

remember that if ur constantly dpsing, flasks's cooldown gets redued

[tawdry carbon]

trust me i know i have 1k hrs

[amber sleet]

it gives u consistent aoe which u dont have and helps with looting

but i like flask

[next dust]

CotND is prob the hardest game of all time lol