leagues-general

[fallow vault]

yeah

[real thicket]

ig

[merry sphinx]

its global just not wc guild

theres leagues worlds for it

[covert wolf]

another guy crashing in

whenever someone come in i just leave and find another world

[merry sphinx]

the nemus retreat is busy always

[covert wolf]

sucks

[real thicket]

honestly just go nature's accord

[austere mirage]

Im in 666 atm

[real thicket]

it's basically worth it for the teleport mushroom

let alone everything else

mushroom is awesome

[fallow vault]

just for farm/herb

[real thicket]

farming sucks

[covert wolf]

you have to wait the rainbow forestry event you can see the leprechaun standing there

[real thicket]

solving farming is worth

getting herbs is worth

u have larceny and transmute so you have the trinity

[merry sphinx]

go to that auburn valley area

[real thicket]

you can transmute and plant max seeds from what you pickpocket

[merry sphinx]

you'll see everyone chopping maples

[real thicket]

plus amazing godly teleport mushroom

[merry sphinx]

join in by the quetzal

[austere mirage]

is this enough people?

[merry sphinx]

look slike theres a leprechaun there lol

[polar oyster]

wallasaki doesnt unlock after killing 1 in frem

[vapid silo]

I used butler's bell for herb solve not because it's the best solve, but because it was in the only tier where I could do away without the other 2

[real thicket]

transmute is so insanely good

[merry sphinx]

all the runes you need

[vapid silo]

I believe it, especially for rushing

[mint stone]

Anyone have tip for shades of morton minigame tasks? The shades respawn too fast I can't complete it.

[vapid silo]

long term it didn't solve anything for me tho

[tacit oyster]

I used transmute as herblore solve but i had 5 herb patches so easy to farm herbs

[real thicket]

having 8 days played now, it's the one relic I'm absolutely 100% sure about

[loud beacon]

how does the echo boots recoil work? its not really adding any damage to my thorns that i can see

[polar oyster]

u have to get hit

[cobalt skiff]

can anyone send me a screenshot of where to stand in the araxyte cave to afk slayer with thorns? cant find a good spot

[fallow vault]

thats how i feel about abundance

[vapid silo]

abundance even more so yeah

[real thicket]

it doesn't add thorns damage

it works like ring of recoil

you actually need to be hit

[tacit oyster]

I was planning on going for friendly forager as herblore xp solve but then i remembered i need to farm 5k nex and i have 50m herblore from nihil shards after shard rate buff

[real thicket]

but echo boots are short range too

[loud beacon]

ive heard people say its not worth dealing with rings of recoil for the ring of suffering because they get used up too fast, is that true?

[vapid silo]

use them only for very specific grinds is my guess

[real thicket]

kind of, not really, depends on your relics

ez to make rings

[tacit oyster]

you would need to make hundreds of rings of recoil to use suffering in multi combat for couple hours

[potent quail]

so only when hit in mellee?
still nice upgrade, you get like a 600% damage multi from the node in the tree depending on your armor

[potent quail]

wouldnt put them on during slayer
would put them on when fighting hard bosses like jads

[real thicket]

I don't remember the range but it's like 1 to 3 spaces or some garbage

[polar oyster]

3x3 size and you in the middle

[real thicket]

yeah that

[potent quail]

Compared to its predecessor, it gives an additional +2 prayer bonus and a passive effect in which the boots deal 1 recoil damage to any target that damages the player, limited to a 3x3 square centered on the player.

[real thicket]

they're still good

but like

[polar oyster]

my boots doing 8 dmg as extra splat

[potent quail]

whats the other option? Mithril boots?

for more armor

[real thicket]

echo boots have good stats

[potent quail]

echo boots have the best defence statsXD

[real thicket]

you can also get avernic treads

[tacit oyster]

echo boots high defence, decent str bonus, high prayer bonus

[potent quail]

avernic is close but also gives offencive stats

[tacit oyster]

the thing is melee can get a pact that converts 50% of prayer bonus into str bonus

so echo boots are same str bonus as primordials with that

[merry sphinx]

80-98 defence doing cg before getting an enhanced

[real thicket]

omg I can post screenshots now

[merry sphinx]

lets see if i can get to 99

[real thicket]

fk that penguin snake

[tacit oyster]

hydra is decent speed in league, just feels terrible since it has 75% damage reduction or completely negates damage for half the fight duration

[random mist]

which perks work for CG

does the healing for magic work

[pliant onyx]

Any way to disable pact effects? Thrown capstone perk of extra projectile completely griefs HMT nylos and nearly kills me since it randomly targets any other nylo in the room

[tacit oyster]

i love getting 6+ echo hits from crossbow and hydra phases from 1st hit, so missing out on 300+ damage

[latent pelican]

prif rabbit is dead on every world ? 🙁

[vapid silo]

EH works for all resource in CG, pray pen works, powered staff/halberd/bow pacts work. I believe they made it so the powered staff can now regenerate runes in CG last patch

also all tier 8 relics you can take into CG

[tacit oyster]

yeah cg bow ammo and powered staff rune regen was added

[merry sphinx]

2 deaths in a row now im so tired of cg

[real thicket]

I respec'd into a powered staff 100% prayer pen build specifically for it

[dreamy solstice]

does devils element work with hounds fang?

[real thicket]

then reset back

red prison sucks

[random mist]

so when i use the staff inside for magic it should be healing me?

in CG

and regular Gauntlet

[vapid silo]

if you have the pact that makes powered staves regen water runes

[random mist]

bet

ty

[real thicket]

and restore prayer

[merry sphinx]

yeah but its cheeks

some youtuber done a video on that build

it just turned into thorns

[dreamy solstice]

i see thank you

[inner zenith]

my GOD is blindbag underwhelming

2 dhs, scy, anchor

so slow and boring

[real thicket]

u need ranged echos +5 more boppers

and then it'll feel better

but it's still a lot

[shadow burrow]

Haven’t seen anyone posting shadow for mage build. Is air build stronger than shadow?

[inner zenith]

it only feels good when you have everything for it

till then it feels bad

shadow si pointless yeah

well, air is better y

[shadow burrow]

How come?

[cerulean bobcat]

Is it possible to charge Scythe without mory?

[real thicket]

respec into atlatl build

[merry sphinx]

30 more kills before im 3x drop for enh

[shadow burrow]

Damn I didn’t know shadow was bad in this leagues I was excited for that since I didn’t go kandrin. Went mory tiawin kourend

[real thicket]

be the gigachad

atlatl is awesome dps

just no recovery

[cerulean bobcat]

Is it possible to charge scythe without mory or no/

[merry sphinx]

yea

[shadow burrow]

What makes shadow not that strong? Isn’t the 2 tick strong?

[merry sphinx]

u get ultra rate token from raids

[cerulean bobcat]

I have the mega rare voucher

But doesn't it give you an uncharged scythe?

And without mory I thought I can't charge

[merry sphinx]

use on the leagues tutor i think

if its like last year

then u can pick

[cerulean bobcat]

I know that, I'm saying if I get an uncharged scythe can I charge it if I don't have morytania?

[merry sphinx]

oh mb

i dont think it has charges

for leagues

[cerulean bobcat]

np ty

[vapid silo]

shadow is not bad but hard to find a place for it

you can't combine it with thorns

it's worse dps than air

it's only got big accuracy going for it

[merry sphinx]

oh its only blood runes that u need for charing the scythe

[tacit oyster]

yeah, since can obtain it in any region

[cerulean bobcat]

Thanks!

[toxic vortex]

it does not work for the farming node

[robust yacht]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1sx021p/jagex_cooking_up_the_skill_tree_this_league/oijc30i/ is this true?

if melee can get free ranged echoes especially 40% chance with just 2 points it's insane

[scenic creek]

huh

just got a b2b2b zenyte

after going 200 dry

big

[real thicket]

weird looking dragonhunter lance :(

[limber peak]

Do I just hop into any vetion world and start killing with people

or does that affect their loot

Not really sure how the loot system works, and if its crashing if i do that

[tacit oyster]

vetion is shared loot based on contribution

[real thicket]

wilderness coop bosses are max 10 way split on prerolls

so it is split

[sullen heath]

It’s fine at the group wildy bosses

[limber peak]

so if im trying to get the dragon 2h sword, I cant really like leech it?

[tacit oyster]

people might not like it if you join them but they will have to kill you to get the world to themselves

[real thicket]

d2h sword is fine in group I think, drop rate is decent

chaos elemental drop rate is much better tho

and easier solo

no weird phases

[limber peak]

chaos elemental beat my ass

i actually got farmed

[real thicket]

damn

[sullen heath]

I did voidwaker yesterday and dropped in to a few people killing the bosses. People come and go and nobody minds

[limber peak]

and i cant flinch with the cbow

idk i feel stuck

[past birch]

You can kinda leech it, you'll get nerfed rewards if you're doing nothing tho

[limber peak]

im never hitting

[past birch]

But can still roll those items you want

[limber peak]

my accuracy is terrible at all of these bosses

[past birch]

Use melee against vetion

It has mega defences

[real thicket]

crossbow feels kind of bad until you have around 24-28 pact points

[limber peak]

Its terrible designed progression

at elast it feels that way

every single boss resists it, its too slow and too low accuracy

[real thicket]

it needs a lot of accuracy to make the 4.2 second fire speed not feel awful

[limber peak]

cant do KBD for the good weapon cause I dont have antifire and i dont have an herblore solve

[past birch]

You gotta be a bit more versatile with your attack styles. Some bosses gotta be farmed with styles you're not strong with early on

[limber peak]

so idk what to do

[willow finch]

Current setup with 10 pacts. I have warped sceptre currently with kandarin and zeah unlocked. Where should I start building out my next pacts? Up the thorn tree? Anymore on the mage side? Mostly casual player afking things https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-133-44-46-53-56-59-68-71-74

[tacit oyster]

15 points can get decent crossbow but you feel very different once you get higher ammo regen rate at 25 or 30 points

[real thicket]

my biggest regret starting out was not just doing a vanilla+ hybrid/tribrid build so I could switch combat styles for bosses

[past birch]

If your goal is to continue the afk/casual path then thorns sounds really good for you

[real thicket]

later on you can get away with just slamming everything with a king's bbarrage

you can't do that early on

[past birch]

Gotta make sure you heal with magic first

[limber peak]

also wtf do I do for gloves since barrows arent obtainable

[real thicket]

regen bracelet

or better

depending on region

[limber peak]

its so jank that they didnt just add barrows gloves to a vendor

[sullen heath]

I used combat bracelet for ages

[real thicket]

almost no one is in full bis

that's the nature of the game

[past birch]

Regen bracelet is bis for most regions

[sullen heath]

Then got void range and I’ve used that since

[real thicket]

my bis ring with my regions is a brimstone ring

it's garbage

it is what it is

[livid slate]

Then spec into accuracy nodes with your pacts?

[past birch]

Yeah that's what makes leagues cool you just use whatever

[limber peak]

im stuck because i cant get pacts

[livid slate]

Then do tasks to get new regions and get their easy pacts?

[real thicket]

yeah, my range gear is kind of mid but like... the chance of me missing is near 0% with my pacts

[past birch]

What's your rsn? Or tell us which pacts you have available

[real thicket]

and my damage every 4.2 seconds is somewhere between 90 and 900

don't think about the gear that much

[limber peak]

Dizzyfoxgirl

[livid slate]

What's your attempted build, relics and regions?

[limber peak]

i cant send images here

[livid slate]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n="1"

Put it in there, send it here

[limber peak]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-15-2-21-24-30-4-44-7

the top left was a mistake

[real thicket]

I'd reset 100%

[past birch]

Have you defeated any echo boss yet?

[livid slate]

Nah, don't

[limber peak]

The only semi accessible echo boss is amox and idk if i can even do that

[livid slate]

Top left is fine, don't reset

[real thicket]

not for that

for the crossbow stuff

[livid slate]

They're wildy

They'll build that way anyway

[real thicket]

it's literally dogwater until you have more pact points

[sullen heath]

I did a mix of water mage and crossbows until I got the kings barrage properly online

[livid slate]

They just need to crossbow capstone and a hunter sunlight and they'll be fine

[limber peak]

i have rcb with enchanted onyx bolts

[livid slate]

Okay that should be fine

What pact tasks you have currently?

[limber peak]

i cant send pictures

All the echo bosses, and the echo item, fire cape, moons of peril, corp beast, dragon 2h, mel ward, dagonhai armor, voidwaker, god cape

[past birch]

Ok you could practice it then, that's an easy pact

[livid slate]

I'd say go do god cape

Get crossbow capstone

[limber peak]

im not doing god cape

[past birch]

The boss requires a bit of dodging and camp pray mage

[livid slate]

And you'll be fine after that

I don't know what to tell you then lol

The easiest pact point you have right now is that

[limber peak]

I litearlly did it on main like a week ago and it took 3 hours, im not doing that shit again

[livid slate]

And you only need ONE point for your build to go online

[marble kestrel]

are you concerned about supplies? go to wildy agi course and stock up on blighted restores and food

[manic prairie]

am i dead?

[cyan locust]

does anyone know how to restore prayer at nature altar

[manic prairie]

yes

[limber peak]

i mean its more that theres litearlly zero access to magic armor

[toxic vortex]

you just, go there?

[limber peak]

before moons

[cyan locust]

how do u get in

[toxic vortex]

are you at the right nature altar?

[cyan locust]

the grotto thing

[past birch]

As long as you pray well this looks free

Or go south pillar and isolate them

[cosmic isle]

What are people using for demonbane weapons for doom shield?

[cyan locust]

im trying to clean up diarys but this seems broken

[past birch]

Dual tecpatl

[livid slate]

Amox echo weapon

[cosmic isle]

ty

[toxic vortex]

I think theres a right-click enter option on the door?

[past birch]

Magic armor like robes?

[limber peak]

like any resemblance of magic armor

[cyan locust]

my options are look-at and search, neither work :(

[toxic vortex]

Magic armor is indeed lacking

[limber peak]

its literally no armor -> blue moon armor

[past birch]

Monk robes -> virtus

[toxic vortex]

well, do you just have varlamore karamja and wildy?

[limber peak]

yes

[livid slate]

You can do chaos druids for their robes?

[past birch]

Yeah the druids

[livid slate]

Though I really don't think you need to grind armor to do god cape

[past birch]

Although that's a bit annoying

[real thicket]

the drop rate boosted is still like 1/200 per piece

it's not worth it

[toxic vortex]

callisto and vet'ion drop mystic pieces

[limber peak]

huh

the bosses hit like trucks

like actual trucks

[real thicket]

the other option is slaye larran's keys, and that's good/fast if you have slayer relic and pointless without it

[past birch]

There's no trucks ingame

[livid slate]

Get blighted resources from wildy agility?

Restock each kill?

[real thicket]

you can get zammy monk robes and they have a tiny bit of stats, and you can get mystic top/bottom from random wildy bosses

[livid slate]

Your build is literally ONE PACT POINT from being online

[real thicket]

that's about it

[marble kestrel]

it should be possible to go naked and take a whole inven of supplies per kill

[limber peak]

i did it on my main and i barely killed with mage armor with a full inventorty of food and prayer potions

They hit like 20s through prayer for fun

[manic prairie]

i already died, and i was under 10 hp

[past birch]

They really don't, maybe only thr Juticiar

If you get dragged

But Porazdir and the tree are free

[limber peak]

I dont think you're remembering the fights properly

[real thicket]

respec melee/bow or melee/thorns vanilla+ build, blitz varlamore, get ez bosses and gear, then go back to wildy

[limber peak]

And how hard they hit through prayer

[real thicket]

anything to do with saving this crossbow is cope

[cyan locust]

@toxic vortex solved. weird bug, the enter option is only available when im on the wrong side of the bridge

[real thicket]

sry

[livid slate]

I assure you, i've done god cape plenty

[cyan locust]

had to hop and right click before hopping over lol

[livid slate]

Your build has like 55% additional accuracy also

So you're going to hit more often with mage as well

It WILL be easier than main game

[real thicket]

nearly everything in wilderness and varlamore is resistant to mage and range

what are you talking about

I did literally the same thing she did

it's a nightmare

[livid slate]

With all do respect, if you're scared because it was hard on the main game

[real thicket]

being stuck on a half assed crossbow build with wildernerness first region is hell

[livid slate]

Maybe leagues ain't for ya'll

[robust yacht]

omg hi fellow queen!

[real thicket]

It isn't hard

it's 500+ range defence

and a crap crossbow

[livid slate]

I'm telling them to do it normally

[real thicket]

it's just needless suffering

[livid slate]

With mage

They have 55% increased accuracy and 87 mage

[real thicket]

when you can respec half-assed melee and beat all the varlamore bosses to death with a rune mace

like why

and it isn't 1 point from being online

[livid slate]

Sure, waste a respec at every inconvenience

[real thicket]

it's 1 point from feeling slightly less awful

[livid slate]

Very great advice

[real thicket]

and it's going to feel nearly awful

for 8 more pact points

[livid slate]

Brother, I went crossbow

It's not bad

[real thicket]

you get 5 resets now, and the first one is ez to get

[livid slate]

It's a great early build before you reroll to your desired build

[limber peak]

with 1 more point am i able to tank echo kbd with no dragonfire

[real thicket]

no, he's going to eat your face

[livid slate]

No, but your crossbow will be useable for the first time in the league

[limber peak]

ok but like ur telling me i cant engage with my build until i sit there for 10 hours farming and making potions like main game?

[real thicket]

yes, your accuracy vs varlamore bosses will go from 16% chance to hit every 4.2 seconds to 19% chance to hit every 4.2 seconds

hurray

send it

[next dust]

some videos said dark beasts do an explosive/magic attack or smthn? ive not seen it yet

[livid slate]

Honestly, just do tasks in varlamore and unlock the next region

[real thicket]

the superiors do

[next dust]

ah

[livid slate]

It sounds like ya'll want me to say you can't do it

[next dust]

are they annoying to avoid?

[real thicket]

they hit with a ranged attack for 33% of your current hp

[limber peak]

that still doesnt answer the kbd problem

[real thicket]

it can't kill you, but it can get you low so something else does

[next dust]

so pray ranged or not

[livid slate]

It's a marathon

Not a sprint

[real thicket]

prayer doesn't help iirc

I think you can dodge it tho

it hits in like a 3x3

need to take 2 steps

if you can heal on your build you can just tank it too

[remote cove]

am I doing something wrong for larrans

[livid slate]

They're not boosted

[real thicket]

you have slayer relic?

[livid slate]

iirc

[remote cove]

yessir

guess im extremely belled then

[real thicket]

take jelly tasks in wilderness

blitz them

they drop a lot of keys

[remote cove]

two sets of 200 for only 1 key

[real thicket]

and the task is fast

take gouding potions too

nechryals are good too, but the superiors can be annoying

[austere mirage]

2 masks
1 knife
No string!

damn!

[remote cove]

guess ill spam 5 kc until I see jellies to try it out

[real thicket]

I just cancelled every not jelly task

unless it was somehing I could walk outside and blast like 5 zombies

[covert wolf]

keep going man

i've been there for at least 4 hours

got everything needed

[austere mirage]

nah work time xD

[covert wolf]

oh

have fun

[austere mirage]

790 points till i can start slayer

[lofty frigate]

guys, shouldnt i be able to facetank echo thermo with this set? https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=DiscoveryAssemblerPartyhat

[covert wolf]

took a short break

back to suffering at vettion

[fickle jasper]

Could be rough. Echo thermy hits very hard if you don't do its mechanics.

[lofty frigate]

ye, i tried it but cant facetank...tought at that point i woudl be able to

[fickle jasper]

There's not really a need to. The boss is so simple anyways

[covert wolf]

ok time to raid

no more vettion

[fickle jasper]

Move every other tick and venge his ass when he does his special

[covert wolf]

all the miss hit is painful to look at

[fickle jasper]

The boss falls over so fast

[covert wolf]

maybe i'll come back witth new build

[lost trellis]

Does scb not boost your def if you already have perm increases?

[livid slate]

Not if it's past the typical boost

[past birch]

You don't know the secret then slayer relic my friend thank me later

[past birch]

Which raid are you sending

[nova comet]

how long to complete mage arena achievments?

[static badge]

Alright, what should I reload into with EH, hotfoot, Larcenist, Transmute & Culling spree?

[past birch]

Someone said 4 hours

Complete torture

[livid slate]

With the 8x?

[past birch]

That's what I heard

Makes sense tho I can see it being a 32 hour grind main game

[tacit oyster]

3-4 hours for all the task items depending on efficiency

[livid slate]

Yikes, do they need you to buy out the shop?

[next dust]

what to do with 2 imbued hearts?

[livid slate]

Drop at raid entrances to tease the non slayer relic pickers

[rancid badge]

What are people doing for smithing without hotfoot/priff

[vapid silo]

imo, either soul harvest for RC or something for herb (friendly forager, butler or nature's accord)

[rancid badge]

I never realised how LONG doing actual smithing bars is 😭

[twilit laurel]

I went desert and did giant's foundry

[rancid badge]

Thats the plan after i unlock desert, but you still need the bars for that right? Or can you go with ores?

[past birch]

If you have fremennik: blast furnace
Desert: giants foundry
Desert+kand: smelt gold with goldsmith
None: F

[twilit laurel]

You can use armor. The store in fortis has up to adamant and there's a store in nardah that has rune platelegs

[past birch]

Lamp it up if none

[livid slate]

You could take butler and use those bars normally

If you don't have a solve

[austere depot]

Well I got Butler, and if I want the smithing faster, Flow State to 2t smith the bars lol

[remote cove]

I AM on slayer relic 😭

[rancid badge]

I have kandarin and plan on desert, ill do gold bars for now and buy rune platelegs for giants foundry i guess

[twilit laurel]

Do giant's foundry all the way

[past birch]

Oh no

What's wrong then where's the keys

Ok you could grind for the elder robes then

And you'll get a lot of keys

[twilit laurel]

Make sure you do alloys 😉 https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Giants'_Foundry/Strategies#Choice_of_alloy_(70_smithing_or_higher)

[past birch]

Another grind is dfs at black dragons (all on task of course)

[pliant onyx]

Any way to disable pact effects? Thrown capstone perk of extra projectile completely griefs HMT nylos and nearly kills me since it randomly targets any other nylo in the room

[twilit laurel]

Don't think so. The only way is to respec

[vapid silo]

or just use mage/melee

[livid slate]

You'd need to just not do range at nylos

[vapid silo]

or like bow

[rancid badge]

Ill check that out, being able to do it with armour helps i can just buy that

I was struggling with sourcing the bars for it

[pliant onyx]

I re-specced into this for HMT for the utility of being the giga-RDPS. Sucks they butchered thrown.

[livid slate]

Isn't the only giga RDPS wildy crossbow?

Or do you mean with drygore blowpipe?

[chilly pine]

was there a high alch price general store in varlamore?

[pliant onyx]

I have thorns crossbow build, but took thrown as an off-spec for nylos

[twilit laurel]

I just got to 99 smithing with it. A good mix for me was 4 rune platelegs and 5 adamant platebodies. You'll need to put in the rune first as the adamant will overflow.

[vapid silo]

doesn't look like it, you can sort general stores by buy price here https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/General_store

[pliant onyx]

Using bow takes away my thorns, and using any other 1h weapon is 5t (hscb) or thrown which kills you

[rancid badge]

Gotcha, thanks for that, ill stock up on those

[near bison]

if i have melee ranged echoes, will the "15% chance from crossbows" compound on that, since my melees act as ranged weapons?

[vapid silo]

yea

[near bison]

nice

and dual weapons count as 2 handed?

[vapid silo]

echoes from melee work with all 3 of the base range echo pacts

[near bison]

wait yes they do, it's already activating duh

nice

[woven cedar]

Can you afk araxxor with water mage?

[ruby socket]

is there a world for huey kills in leagues?

[polar oyster]

try 666, common world this league for social stuff

[queen fable]

There are world activities descriptions on the leagues worlds now (hover over the world to see them).

[ruby socket]

oh indeed! ty!

[merry sphinx]

231 dry

[queen fable]

Did you try a vial of water?
-RNG is rough

[inner hare]

is there an easy way to finish the "defeat 8 penguins in 5 seconds" challenge?

[cobalt skiff]

so.. is there no propper way to do abyssal sire full melee? :/

[fallow shadow]

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do the 150 lizardman shaman task?... I've killed like 20 but it's super frustrating

[twilit laurel]

You only need ranged for the vents

[cobalt skiff]

i have like 0 ranged damage lol

kinda annoying

[spiral sapphire]

Is there a world for Trouble Brewing in leagues?

[twilit laurel]

Magic would be your best bet then

kinda annoying you can't get demonbane weapons

[merry sphinx]

thorns

[cobalt skiff]

bro im hitting these vents for 1 with lithic sceptre :(

[twilit laurel]

Did you down the boss?

[plucky rivet]

Bluetooth nally build works

[cobalt skiff]

yeah i cant respec for abyssal sire xd

[twilit laurel]

Did you stun the sire before attacking the vents?

[fallow shadow]

I am thorns build :P I was thinking just thorns and maybe rune darts or something, but I don't really have ranged armor

[plucky rivet]

Ah I dont think you can reach boss with melee then to stun

[twilit laurel]

I never tried stunning with melee, but that should be possible right?

[cobalt skiff]

nope

cant reach

[plucky rivet]

This. Lithic should hit higher tbh

[peak solstice]

i got varlamore karamja kourend unlocked, where can I cook close to bank?

[merry sphinx]

ah if u had water mage pacts

[twilit laurel]

Use mage to attack the sire till it's stunned then go for the vents

[deep crag]

🥺 i hope we get another reset. i hope they add in killing echo bosses to get extra resets at like a 1/100 rate or something

[fallow shadow]

Yeah I'm realizing in hindsight I should have gone either mage/ranged with my thorns, but I was stubborn and wanted to do melee so I'm thorns/light weapons

[twilit laurel]

You can start building into mage or crossbow with that

[cobalt skiff]

thorns light weapons is fine tbh

[deep crag]

nah it fucking sucks

[fallow shadow]

LMAO

[cobalt skiff]

???

[deep crag]

i used it and i rerolled xbow/thorns and it was a huge waste of time trying it

[fallow shadow]

I've had no trouble doign good damage with thorns/light, but having a ranged option would definitely have been smart

[potent quail]

You do need whip or the echo dagger for it to shine

[deep crag]

i was

[cobalt skiff]

damn i pity you

[potent quail]

Oh damn

[deep crag]

go try to do echo cerb melee as well

[fallow shadow]

Yeah I have an abyssal whip

[cobalt skiff]

hearing you say ''waste of time'' in a for fun gamemode is just sad ngl

i have the dogger and light weapon thorns feels really good lol

[twilit laurel]

I'm thorns light weapon + crossbow at 32 pacts. You can be core build with 25

[deep crag]

it was a waste of time

[fallow shadow]

Yeahhhh some folks do seem to take the leagues a bit more seriously than others :P

[deep crag]

yeah once you get the BEST weapon for it it feels better

[twilit laurel]

Fair enough

[cobalt skiff]

yeah? obviously lol

[twilit laurel]

I have armadyl crossbow and fang

[cobalt skiff]

idk man the amount of hitsplats i do with this build is insane

very fun

[deep crag]

swapping from abyssal whip and a mix of bandos/blood moon to just rcb with armadyl and odium ward the insane jump in damage made me realize that it was a waste of time

[granite laurel]

turns out thorns in tob isnt great

[cobalt skiff]

i mean yeah its not for all content

but thats the case with all builds tbh

[deep crag]

the best build you really can do is probably a split between whatever you wanna do and 1t staves

[cobalt skiff]

the best build is the one giving you the most fun

[deep crag]

yeah and that gives you the most fun because when your build doesn't work, 1t staves WILL

[twilit laurel]

What's the best 1 hand staff if you have KAD?

[fallow shadow]

Does thorns still do decent damage if you're having to wear ranged gear?

[deep crag]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Powered_staff

[deep crag]

yeah, most things still hit you ranged

[wooden hamlet]

Guys how can I learn ToB? I just did entry mode and that went fine, although I imagine normal mode will be much harder. I'm looking to upgrade my thorns gear

[deep crag]

https://tools.runescape.wiki/demonic-pacts/?n=1-10-11-13-133-135-139-14-140-141-145-15-17-18-2-21-24-29-30-31-38-39-4-57-6-60-61-64-65-69-7-71-81-84-9-92-94-95-96-97
this is what i wanted to do but i fucked up my build already with no resets left

[livid slate]

At that point your new build is a even bigger waste of time

You realize there is something better, but you're not playing prayair

[twilit laurel]

Kinda, I hit 13 + 7, but I instead wear bandos (gonna get torva) because my crossbow always max hits and my accuracy is insane due to pacts. With bandos and echo boots I hit 15 + 7. I think with my BIS tank I can do 18 + 9

[livid slate]

If not for fun, what's the point?

[deep crag]

no because im clearing all of the content i have unlocked now

[deep crag]

i wasn't having fun

[past birch]

I personally went range+light and I'm constantly thinking thorns would've been smart

[twilit laurel]

Thorns is amazing

Slayer becomes trivial due to free aoe damage

[deep crag]

thorns is amazing because they added in damage scaling off defense and prayer regen

[graceful lynx]

what is required for the vestment set task

[twilit laurel]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Vestment_robes

[graceful lynx]

ah im just missing a cloak

sadness

[fallow shadow]

Yeah ever since I swapped to thorns I've been breezing through stuff way more than I was before

[twilit laurel]

It's guaranteed damage. hard to beat

[fallow shadow]

Ohhh right the perma max hit is a good point, so I guess you don't really have to go too far into ranged attack

[graceful lynx]

i think the story of this league is that everyone realized thorns is strong

[twilit laurel]

People complain about bosses having chip damage realize we can have chip damage

However in most bosses it doesn't help all that much

[fallow vault]

inb4 nerf

[deep crag]

they won't nerf stuff this league just make other stuff stronger

[twilit laurel]

No. They will nerf bows

[deep crag]

that's why every 1% damage node got another 10% acc and prayer pen got an extra 10%

[past birch]

Yeah they never nerf stuff, unless it's something obviously bugged

[deep crag]

they don't nerf they just bugfix

[peak crypt]

I was planning on taking Tirannwn as my last zone. I have wildy and Kandarin right now. But I'm starting to second guess myself. I've started to see a lot of people take Morytania, and I'm wondering if I should too. Tbf, I don't particularly want to lol. But I saw a pretty cool 1 tick build with the grotesque guardians staff, and it'd give me access to tob as well. And nally

But with tirannwn, I'd be able to get crystal armor and blessing, which is pretty sweet. Such hard decisions

[twilit laurel]

Counter point. Tirannwn has Corrupted Gauntlet

[peak crypt]

That being a bad thing?

[past birch]

Tirawnn has made quit most league players

[next dust]

i did tirranwn as my first unlock and didnt have an issue

[twilit laurel]

I have skill issues with cg

[next dust]

i was a skiller tho

[past birch]

Gauntlet has no pity drops

[next dust]

and did no pvm until i unlocked all 4 zones

[next dust]

neither did mithril boots

[merry sphinx]

officially 3x drop rate on enhance

[fallow shadow]

I probably can't swap to crossbow without getting a few more points first. I only have 5 I can spend outside of my non-negotiable thorns points

[past birch]

Mithril boots?

[peak crypt]

I mean its no better if I'm unlocking mory lol. Because then I just have tob anyway

[deep crag]

tiran is great and echo cg is smexy if you're 1t staves it's even easier

[twilit laurel]

Maybe you can go 1h staff instead?

[deep crag]

i went wildy, asgar, kourend

[twilit laurel]

I've been thinking about respecing to powered staff because of all the healing I see

Being able to afk bosses is nice

[peak crypt]

ohhhh I've been thinking about kourend a bunch too. I've never done cox at all though. But I love the kourend area. the drop from there doesn't interest me at all though, just the area

[deep crag]

echo weps aren't the greatest thing this league with pacts

[peak crypt]

the kbd crossbow has been kind to me so far

[deep crag]

yeah it's probably the strongest

out the gate

[peak crypt]

And I actually saw the mory staff do well as well

[deep crag]

mory staff, kbd, thermo staff/offhand

ofc crystal blessing is great too

kinda boring but amazing numbers

the rest are too niche but they're not worthless entirely just harder to get them going

[fallow shadow]

It's 6 points to the powered staff node, but tbh I have no idea what powered staves are XD I'm kind of an RS noob

[deep crag]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Powered_staff

[cyan cove]

need solid crafting xp advice

no transmutation or butler
no crystal gear access

took mortania, asgarnia, kandarin

BG,HF, bank heist, conniving clues, soul harvest, eternal, and culling

cutting gems works but seems very slow

[deep crag]

it's gonna suck

go off the wiki guides

[twilit laurel]

No way around it

[placid creek]

It's been a good run, sad to see Jagex take all worlds offline

[twilit laurel]

Pick up every battlestaff drop you can find

[placid creek]

RIPscape

[cyan cove]

im trying to farm black dhides so I can farm soul shards at the same time

get my prayer and rc up at the same time

[twilit laurel]

Not the worst plan

You can also cut gems and then turn them into jewellery

Just try to squeeze out as much xp from your resources

[deep crag]

do you have the costume needle

maybe you can do some quests for crafting xp lolol

you gotta do costume needle quest to activate last statue for pendent of ates for a task anyway

[twilit laurel]

How much xp from achievement diaries is being slept on?

[little wraith]

A lot

[deep crag]

combat achievements aren't too bad to get you get a lot of pts passively and then just gotta seek out a few to get to each next tier

[twilit laurel]

All Ardougne lamps are 1.2m

[regal spindle]

hey which zamorak items buff the minion?

[deep crag]

any wearable

[little wraith]

best way to get those is clues right?

[deep crag]

each one you give is another 2 max hit up to 5 items

[twilit laurel]

I guess it's the same for all diaries. 1.2M xp in lamps

[pastel estuary]

how can i reliably reduce my hp for this ... i have desert, kourend and kandarin

[deep crag]

clues, wildy items

[cyan cove]

whats a custome needle

[deep crag]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Costume_needle

[little wraith]

^

[twilit laurel]

Get a clue with an orb step? I haven't checked, but since you're in kandarin maybe you can get a rock cake?

[ruby socket]

I'm losing my fucking sanity wwhy do i still get hit like a monstertruck on the eclipse clone phase DESPITE properly clicking and attacking the fuckingc lone wwhat am i doing wrong?!

[tacit oyster]

currently not possible with echoes counting as non mithril bolt i think

[dusty hound]

is grimoire or culling spree the move?

[deep crag]

i think tutor gives you a strange device for free at the start

[little wraith]

are you clicking on them as soon as they spawn?

[ruby socket]

yeah

like

[deep crag]

culling spree everytime over grim

[twilit laurel]

Eternal sustenance is the move

[pastel estuary]

tyyyy

[little wraith]

you have to click on them or the tile behind

[pastel estuary]

oh damnnnn

[fallow shadow]

I flipped gems all the way to 90 ;w;

[merry sphinx]

its genuinely getting to a point where I might just quit

[little wraith]

wow

[merry sphinx]

I only come back to play leagues and look at this

[little wraith]

95% chance of having 1 enhanced by now

[toxic vortex]

you doing echo yeah?

[cyan cove]

I want the blood fury so yeah thats pain

[merry sphinx]

yeah

[cyan cove]

oh ffs I just auto piloted and high alched my d hide without using it

[ruby socket]

I dunno man. I can't fathom the innate lack of common sense to still design bosses around unavoidable chipdamage it's so fucking stupid

[cyan cove]

[inner zenith]

does anyone know rate of moons chests if killin 1 boss?

[little wraith]

I believe same as one moon

[peak crypt]

Curious if anyone knows. I need into glarials tomb to kill a giant for a task in kandarin. Can't get glarials necklace, because I don't have glarials pebble. Can't get pebble, because I can't talk to Golrie. Because I don't have key for cell. Not in crate like it usually is, and he isn't outside the cell like he normally is when you beat the quest

[little wraith]

for their items

[toxic vortex]

spirit tree to gnome village

[inner zenith]

i did get it from the crate

[merry sphinx]

u can get the pebble by going into the tomb

I mean the necklace

[toxic vortex]

Wait, wrong thing

[cobalt skiff]

is there a world for pest control atm?

[peak crypt]

maybe i'm searching the wrong crate then? I've never done it without the quest helper xD

[merry sphinx]

check the wiki

theres a chest in the dungeon near gnome village

to open the prison to get the pebble from the gnome

[peak crypt]

dude I got all that, said all that in my message

[crystal kelp]

It's a mechanism to limit kills per hour and kills per trip

[peak crypt]

Ahh okay, I found it. Sorry I was searching the wrong chest. Totally my bad

[tame flax]

god damn
(element was kc #1 btw)

the 🥄 s are real

[pastel estuary]

a water mage is born

[tame flax]

ive been water/crossbow from the getgo

[ruby socket]

Nah. it's deliberately pissing of the player for no reason at all. you could literally achieve the same and have it be at least fucking consistent by giving it more hp or more resistence. specially fucking blood moon is so insanely stupid bc that shit sometimes outheals the entire damage i did in a phase. it's borderline brain dead game design

[twilit laurel]

Get better defensive armor

[tame flax]

wear tank gear

[ruby socket]

300 years of collective gamedesign experience yet they don't unnderstand that unavoidable chip damage that is rng and can whack you for 60 is not fun

[merry sphinx]

just go get better gear and go back to it lol

[tame flax]

you can avoid basically all the damage in moons

[ruby socket]

no lol

[merry sphinx]

you cant but its not much

[void forge]

Can we please allow endless harvest to mine the shards for oath plate pls 🥲

[fallow shadow]

@twilit laurel Do I need to get something like sanguinesti before powered staves are good?

[pastel estuary]

only if abundance can too :3

[tame flax]

do you stepunder blood

[pastel estuary]

jagex, pls

[twilit laurel]

Depends on your regions, but if you have Kandarin you can get the trident. The warped scepter is available earlier than that. There's also the eye of ayak

[ruby socket]

no bc that only blocks the 3rd hit, it does not negate the damage and hence the issue unavoidable chip damage is not fun still persists

[fallow shadow]

I have Kourend and Mory

[pastel estuary]

lithic is good no?

[tame flax]

also hey wait a second ive been distracted from the actual game itself

[fallow shadow]

That's not in the list of powered staves :O

[tame flax]

you are in moons

you have INFINITE food

and INFINITE prayer pots / super combats

[twilit laurel]

But I want to kill the moons without effort

[ruby socket]

If you partake in that activity that sucks your time as well, yeah

[crystal kelp]

More HP and resistance is a boring mechanic and only deliberately pisses the player off for no reason at all. You could literally achieve the same and have a bit of chip damage and the player can make better decisions about when to tackle the content

[ruby socket]

it still does not fix the core issue bro

[fallow shadow]

Does that count as a powered staff since it's a sceptre?

[pastel estuary]

moons is not early game content for leagues tbh

[tame flax]

there is no core issue

[pastel estuary]

u gotta do a few other things before u go there i would say

[tame flax]

moons is its own activity

[ruby socket]

yeah okay you have brain damage

[tame flax]

the prep part is part of the goddamn thing

[merry sphinx]

hunllef is the worst echo boss they could have ever designed

[pastel estuary]

yeah im pretty sure it should

[merry sphinx]

250 dry and sometimes itll just drop 3x torandos in a row

[ruby socket]

the base boss is the worst boss they have ever designed already so that statement is 100% correct

[tame flax]

you're crashing out over a boss that they give you infinite supplies for because you take chip damage and you do bad damage

[merry sphinx]

floor switch + 4 extra side tornados + blue attack

😴

[twilit laurel]

I thought powered staffs are these https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Powered_staff

[rocky sequoia]

Is the math for getting voidwaker better for artio or better for Callisto?

[crystal kelp]

He's mad because he's clearly not properly equipped to take them on

[ruby socket]

It's a mid level boss that requires you to have near to end tier tank gear to reduce unavoidable chip damage, do you understand the core issue dude

[tame flax]

its barely a mid level boss

[twilit laurel]

Barrows = near end game gear now

[tame flax]

end tier tank gear to avoid chip damage

[pastel estuary]

u dont need near to end tier tank gear

[tame flax]

man drives to work in a tiny little car with 30 people in it

[crystal kelp]

A tiny little car is near a bus

[merry sphinx]

I done moons with rune legs shield and fighter torso + dscim

[pastel estuary]

people often use barrows armour but obsidian works fine too and u have access to karamja

u cant go to moons naked and get kcs tho

[ruby socket]

your arguemtn is even worse wwhen considering it in the confines of league where to reduce the unavoidable chip damage u need to unlock an entire region to get easy access to tank gear

[twilit laurel]

Also defense levels matter more than you think

[ruby socket]

LMFAO

[pastel estuary]

well blood moon

[tame flax]

theres literally a CA for doing it with just a dscimmy

its like, the lowest down boss in mid-tier osrs

[pastel estuary]

u can also get some pacts that help u survive by doing other, easier content

[shadow burrow]

If you could do It over again. Would yall take woodsman or hotfoot?

[crystal kelp]

Had clannies do it just fine with addy armour and rune mace during leagues, probably skill issue

[pastel estuary]

u have an insane amount of options to manage moons

[tame flax]

hotfoot again

[crystal kelp]

Woodsman

[ruby socket]

your arguments do not go in your favour dude it's insane you'Re not realizing this. you're literally arguing in myfavour rnn

[tame flax]

its absolutely just a skill issue

[fallow shadow]

I'm awful at the game and am able to farm moons, just learn the mechanics :P

Blood moon gives you opportunities to heal yourself for free by doing damage

[tame flax]

blood is a dps check, the other two are purely mechanics checks

[crystal kelp]

I bet he's doing it at like 35 defence and a slash wep

[merry sphinx]

same

same with cg

[ruby socket]

it's not about the mechannics, its about unnavoidable chip damage that nullifies all damage u did in a phase just bc u got whacked 3 20's

[tame flax]

and without using the supplies

[thorn compass]

Where do I get a wrath talisman in kandarin?

[pastel estuary]

rng in osrs? no way

[tame flax]

if its about chip damage than eat a fuckin fish

[merry sphinx]

I got like 10 cg completions on my main

[ruby socket]

rng should not be a thing when you do the mechanics properly

[tame flax]

the entire game is rng

[pastel estuary]

this isnt the game for you

[tame flax]

quit acting a clown

[fallow shadow]

Are you using the right damage type? Are you praying? Are you standing in the right spots to avoid getting cursed? Are you hitting the jaguars and dodging when they're gonna cleave you?

[crystal kelp]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Wrath_talisman

[ruby socket]

just imnagine hwo fucking dogshit leviathan would be if it had unavoidable chipdamage lmfao

[shadow burrow]

If I went kandrin and kourend (unsure of my 3rd) what would be the best smithing fix here?

[twilit laurel]

lolwut?

[tame flax]

i forgot that leviathan blesses me with infinite supplies when i do it

[crystal kelp]

That's a bad argument because leviathan is utter dogshit anyway

[tame flax]

ding ding ding

[crystal kelp]

I would rather have the chip damage and a better fight, like Vardorvis

[pastel estuary]

chip damage exists throughout the game, have u considered that the game just isnt for you?

[merry sphinx]

u have blast furnace

[ruby socket]

This does not fix the core issue 🤣 man you're so ignorant. you must life such a happy life when you're this blind to issues lmfao

[tame flax]

anyway i got my jar of the za za

[toxic vortex]

wait

[crystal kelp]

Elf land is the best solve. But unless you're point capping you don't really need to solve everything

[toxic vortex]

I can revert a bowfa back to an enhanced seed right?

[twilit laurel]

The core issue is that YOU don't like chip damage. Not that chip damage is a bad mechanic

[crystal kelp]

Yes

[tame flax]

there is no issue you are just bad at the game

[pastel estuary]

u dont get shards back tho

[tame flax]

whining about a beginner boss

[pastel estuary]

good thing misthalin isnt unlocked otherwise we'd be having this convo about scurrius

[twilit laurel]

If moons were about skill expression they would fail as a mid level boss

[merry sphinx]

i miss scurrius

[tame flax]

yo wtf dude brutus has unavoidable chip damage??????

[fallow shadow]

He's just here to complain XD notice how he ignores me when I try to actually offer questions about how he's doing the fight

[merry sphinx]

easy early game xp in leagues

[tame flax]

i stood in the puff of dirt and took unavoidable chip damage????

[fickle jasper]

[crystal kelp]

That's because your suggestions are probably ridiculous like .. train defence or learn mechanics or use the supplies in the area

[tame flax]

use the supplies? nah doood you're missing the point and actually proving my point right

[twilit laurel]

Wait, we shouldn't be doing the content as intended?

[tame flax]

me when i cant ranged dusk and its jamjax's fault

[next dust]

minion is SO good

[crystal kelp]

His big fat wings are worse than chip damage

[twilit laurel]

Minion notes items?

[next dust]

yes

[crystal kelp]

Picks em up noted

[twilit laurel]

RIP

[tame flax]

i cant believe that amox is gonna be the last echo boss i kill and get the weapon from

[twilit laurel]

Still no regrets about the flask (cope)

[tame flax]

its supposed to be the starter echo

[next dust]

huey is easier

[tame flax]

huey isnt an echo boss

[next dust]

not huey

[merry sphinx]

if u have thorns its kind of braindead even for noobs like me

[next dust]

hunlief

[tame flax]

i havent tried thorns yet

although

[fickle jasper]

Flask is great

[next dust]

you cant thorns hunlief

[tame flax]

i am outhealing amox entirely with shadowflame quadrant

[pastel estuary]

werd

[tame flax]

i can fully afk this boss lmao

[pastel estuary]

love flask

[next dust]

then what are you complaining about lol

[tacit oyster]

flask is nice, you can die and revive yourself with it

[fickle jasper]

I took flask because I cba to do clues for zammy items

[tame flax]

im not complaining?

[next dust]

surprised it's the first boss?

sounds like you were of the difficultytt

[twilit laurel]

Flask is a great relic, I just want it to last a little longer on the immunity

[tame flax]

im surprised i got all my other echoes done before the starting zone one

[tacit oyster]

I just wish flask worked on olm/guardians on cox

[tame flax]

every time i hear the little loot jingle thinking i got my echo orb here and its a 7th pendant of ates

[lament cosmos]

seems like the dps calc on the wiki says "crossbow hits always max hit" does not worked with melee echoes. Why? Isn't it supposed to work as a crossbow, bow, and thrown weapon?

[next dust]

only 7?

[tame flax]

just standing in the goop

[next dust]

water magic baby

[crystal kelp]

Bloody chip damage

[tame flax]

TRUE

[wary egret]

Whats a cooler pet - corp or sol?

[twilit laurel]

Is that water spell going the wrong way?

[tame flax]

amox is unfair

[crystal kelp]

Sol

[tame flax]

yeah amox has water surge now

[merry sphinx]

im thinking of going flash so I can cheese the jad challenges

but idk the minion is kind of cool

[next dust]

(not cross) bow builds and 2h melee are the true gamers this league

[tame flax]

flask is so cool

[tacit oyster]

your melee hit wont shoot bolt. the max hit doesnt work on echo hits anyway even with crossbow

[wary egret]

I can either afk corp or 5 min grind collo lol

[tame flax]

throwing chads rise up

[fickle jasper]

You can already cheese it with mage thorns

[next dust]

throwing use thorns too

so no

[merry sphinx]

last year the flask equivalent relic done it for me

[tame flax]

pure throwing

[merry sphinx]

I forgot what it was called

[spring cipher]

water spells bounce and hits the target and bounces back to yourself to heal you

[twilit laurel]

Flask is good because this is leagues and I like breaking bosses, not dying

[spring cipher]

last stand

[tame flax]

last stand was op

[merry sphinx]

I need an extra reset cos I went air mage

I only have 1 reset left

[tame flax]

better reset to something good

[fickle jasper]

Last stand was definitely busted

[fickle jasper]

[next dust]

3rd imbued heart

no dark bow

wat

[fickle jasper]

Funny enough, that wouldn't work for sote's death ball

Unless that was patched recently

[tame flax]

wym

last stand worked on the ball

[old tapir]

guardian statues are awful with a 5 tick pickaxe

[tame flax]

flask works on it too

[old tapir]

and what's even more awful is that the consensus way of doing it is just going in and back, then waiting however many ticks for the attack delay

[fickle jasper]

It did not when I was running hmts a few days ago

[old tapir]

something you have to time right and everything

[fickle jasper]

Confirmed it two times

[old tapir]

but its also very difficult to make a run pattern that's 5 ticks long

[silver flint]

boss tasks are not worth it for xp. Superiors give an unbelievable amount. 103k xp drop from night beasts

[tame flax]

flask makes you immune for 2.4s

[old tapir]

that doesn't look like chaos

[fickle jasper]

Not against the death ball

[tame flax]

but also you can tickeat dying with flask anyway

do that next time

parry the reaper

[fickle jasper]

I just tick eat the ball and not rely on flask

Game making me work for my clears instead of letting me be lazy. smh

[tame flax]

i love flask

[fickle jasper]

Its very nice at nylos

[kind cairn]

How do i disable the cutscene on grotesque guardians?

[tame flax]

quickstart the fight

[pastel estuary]

quick start

[fickle jasper]

Its unlocked after 5 kc

[tame flax]

i do gotta grind my prayer from 90 to 99 now that i got flask tho

[near magnet]

whats the quickest way to get to cave horrors?

[tame flax]

trouble brewing warp

bring a light source

theres a bank there too i guess

[jagged plinth]

Can we get to guardians of the rift?

[tame flax]

if you have desert

[jagged plinth]

Ah crap nope I dont thanks

[tame flax]

yeah welcome to the rc grind

[jagged plinth]

Ouranian altar here I come lol

[near magnet]

wym warp?\

[fickle jasper]

Use the minigame teleport

[jagged plinth]

Have to unlock it

[near magnet]

oh i see ty

[fickle jasper]

It was unlocked by default in leagues for me

[kind cairn]

how is grotesque guardians (echo) with water magic/ thorns?

[jagged plinth]

You got desert area?

[kind cairn]

can i heal through most of it?

[fickle jasper]

Click boss and go afk

[fickle jasper]

No

Oh you're referring to gotr

I'm talking about trouble brewing

[near magnet]

thorns makes it a joke, justpray range and stand away from melee dist

[fickle jasper]

Easily assuming your pacts are built correctly

Mage thorns trivializes most content

[jagged plinth]

Ah kk lol

[tame flax]

ok now echo amox is a fun fight

i enjoy this 100x more than thermy

[mossy pond]

Is minion a good T8? Does it actually attack shit on its own?

[fickle jasper]

Echo thermy sucks so much

[fleet ibex]

It only attacks if you attack or something attacks you

[tame flax]

i hate that he has a cast bar for his big attack and then it fires at like 70% through the bar anyway

[fickle jasper]

Are you talking about his special?

[fleet ibex]

The autoloot for minion is kinda weird though, I've got a 20k limit and it still picks up adamant arrows that're like 10k

[tame flax]

yes

[fickle jasper]

I wish he did that more often

It would make the fight so much faster

[tame flax]

monkeys paw curls now he fires his 12 shots at twice the speed

[fickle jasper]

Its the only attack that venge works on

[tame flax]

you cant make it to the next circle now at all

[fickle jasper]

?

Echo thermy is basically a zero damage boss if you do it correctly barring the tiny damage from the special if you stand far enough back

[tame flax]

explaining the joke ruins it man

[fickle jasper]

Didn't realise there was a joke there

[chilly pine]

anyone got monkey tails yet?

1/300

[amber sleet]

15 zenytes at 458 kills is wild

i have 1 at half your kc

[toxic vortex]

I have 4 at 93

[pastel estuary]

i need the heavy ballista

[chilly pine]

i would trade if i had 2

[toxic vortex]

3 monkey tails in 310 kc is absolutely nuts

[next dust]

do i have enough extra damage?

me + thrall + minion + cannon

[pastel estuary]

^^

[fiery anvil]

I found a bug

[next dust]

spiders arent bugs

[fiery anvil]

Soul harvest is not working i can upload video

[zinc olive]

not working on what?

[chilly pine]

lets see the video

[fiery anvil]

Can't post here

[slim crag]

Now give me one in the main game lol

[fiery anvil]

Dm me

[fiery anvil]

Dragon bones black dragons at wildy cave

[fleet ibex]

"bug" is to arthropods as "fish" is to fish

[timber quest]

Ring of recoils and venge? Xd

[next dust]

no kandarin

i cant get suffering

[fickle jasper]

Oof

[smoky raft]

one more down

[next dust]

and im praying melee vs dark beasts tyvm

[smoky raft]

culling spree is for CHUMPS

[next dust]

im getting close!

[paper hull]

Is there a good source of food or do i gotta fish

[uncut flint]

I want to say that this is probably the worst league I have ever played. Idc if no one asked or cares, but genuinely this league is doggy doo doo. Jagex really dropped the ball this league

[next dust]

butler

eternal harvest

[smoky raft]

you can buy cooked karambwans

[tawdry carbon]

what relics did u pick

[tawdry carbon]

where can u buy cooked ones

[chilly pine]

cus of the respecs?

[smoky raft]

[[The Shrimp and Parrot]]

[obsidian bluff]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/The_Shrimp_and_Parrot

[paper hull]

Where

[tawdry carbon]

ty

[magic widget]

If you have transmute you can get swordfish at shop in varlamore and transmute up to bwams or sharks before cooking

[willow finch]

I need 1 more pact for the additions recoil thorns damage but don’t know what’s easier moons gear or 1 solo royal titans😭 i cba doing moons smh

[paper hull]

EH, Woods, evil eye, trans, larc, culling

[fickle jasper]

Both would be really easy

[paper hull]

O i want cooked food.. i got low cooking lol

[strange nexus]

Damn, I miss Artemis already. Good crash out to read while on the shitter at work.

[fickle jasper]

Time to train cooking

[graceful lynx]

whats the range switch supposed to be for mocha if theres no schorched bow

[smoky raft]

I'd say moons is easier but it'll take longer to do

[magic widget]

Can train it up to 70 in like 20 minutes probably

[smoky raft]

1 royal titans kill should only take like, 5 min at most

[next dust]

pretty sure dark beasts use this

[smoky raft]

oh cool

[chilly pine]

either ignore or double hitting weapons like echo amox

[smoky raft]

wasn't even going for that

[graceful lynx]

but theres a range specific grub. the green one

[uncut flint]

No, this just feels like a dumbed down version of leagues. The tree gives variety, but nothing feels explosive like a league other than ranged, they nerfed the hell out of skilling relics and the only reason they locked off misthalin is because they couldn't manage to fit in the new skill the forced onto the player base into the new league. Everything feels much slower, sluggish and terrible. They also swapped out some of the best echo weapons but kept the echo bosses the same mechanically? This league makes 0 sense

[near magnet]

this is my first league and im having a blast

[tawdry carbon]

same except i have no pacts

and no resets

[willow finch]

This league is dope. I’m having tons of fun

[magic widget]

Bruhs still mad about sailing lol

[fickle jasper]

[near magnet]

new areas helped speed this up for me

[tawdry carbon]

no, im saying i corrupted my tree so i basically have no pacts

[twilit laurel]

Next leagues should be sailing only

[rich spear]

I wonder if I can npc contact turael without asg but with dream mentor unlocked

Has anyone tried

[fickle jasper]

Thank god they got rid of Misthalin and gave us varlamore as the starting region

[tacit oyster]

this league is slower start combat powerwise. if you start with bad demonic pact or do not farm pact points then you will feel almost as weak as main game

[tawdry carbon]

varlarmore is so much higher quality than the rest of the game , i love it

[willow finch]

They gave us like 2 free resets plus whatever resets u can get. U messed ur tree up that many times ?

[rich spear]

Varlamore is a peak starting region

[restive dust]

Do the 30% overheals stack?

[fickle jasper]

Yes

[tawdry carbon]

yea

[willow finch]

I agree should be as many resets as you want tho

[fickle jasper]

You can heal up to 188 hp

[tawdry carbon]

id rather have resets be farmable

[uncut flint]

so ranged rush wilderness or the league is slow

[restive dust]

Sweet

[rich spear]

My current build is literally "fuck cg*

[tawdry carbon]

like each 100x echo boss kc = another reset

[fickle jasper]

I gave up on cg early on

[restive dust]

Im trying to learn gauntlet lol

[tawdry carbon]

gauntlet is easy this league but imo you should learn it properly and not do the chese

[fickle jasper]

183 kc and didn't get an enhanced

[restive dust]

The prayer pen?