leagues-general

[potent quail]

btw talked in point max chat

to get the planks its 7 days with butler

and then a lot of hours making teak benches and mahogany tables

[silent garnet]

seems like it couldn't be more than 20 hours for 200m con imo

Mahogany tables was nearly 10m an hour for me and I'm sure I was inefficient

[potent quail]

now trying to math how long teak benches and mahog tables take

[tawdry carbon]

is dragon rank possible for people who play every day

[potent quail]

peak efficency is 14.4 million per hour

[silent garnet]

100% lmao

[potent quail]

i dont think its possible to play more then every day

[ionic grotto]

Would anyone be interested in Cox in like 1hr? Idc about your dps im here for the banter. 125cmb, 33 pacts

[potent quail]

playing every day is the maximum amount of time you can play

[tawdry carbon]

the thging is a lot of my time is spent learning the game

so im only ~20k pts

[crude kite]

Could play twice every day

[tawdry carbon]

almost 21k

=/

[real thicket]

you need combat achievements, diaries, and to get 25/50m xp in a lot of skills, and then some

[tawdry carbon]

so im worried im going to be slowed down by learning

[charred vale]

does anyone know if I'm doing barrows and only am looking for barrows gear (dont care about runes), does the potential % matter? Can I just kill the bros?

[crude kite]

Dw about it. Just have fun. If you get it you get it if not, next time.

[real thicket]

just playing daily isn't enough unless you're very good at pvm and willing to do tick manipulation for skilling depending on your relics

just have fun and don't think about the trophy

[tawdry carbon]

my mechanics are good but i have to learn the bosses

[deep basin]

just kill brothers

[ionic grotto]

from ~300 kills seems like it didnt matter, if u have ye just kill brother ur hunting gear for and tele to chest, repeat

[tawdry carbon]

so far i did every combat acvheivement at echo gargoyle, echo amoxacilin, echo hunlef

[real thicket]

regions also make it easier/harder to do

[ionic grotto]

eye*

[deep basin]

potential only gives more runes/more bolt racks/chance at a dragon med helm/elite clues

[tawdry carbon]

and i did the triple infernal jad but not the endless yet

my regions are tirandwin moralania and im plannign on krandorian last

i have mechanix but not knowledge so thats y im worried

[merry sphinx]

this is actually putting me to sleep

[real thicket]

kill a few hundred hydras for a pick me up

[tawdry carbon]

u want sum of mine

[smoky sorrel]

So, in what way does culling spree actually make slayer faster :X

[merry sphinx]

yes

[merry sphinx]

pick tasks

[smoky sorrel]

Because god, this is still slow comparatively

[potent quail]

You ger super easily the task you want

[deep basin]

you can pick tasks, you get good helmet

[merry sphinx]

i think I prefer hydra

[potent quail]

Welcome to slayer

Now imagine running out of points and you have to do bad tasks

[real thicket]

I do too, hunleff sucked

[ionic grotto]

Any of u guys gotten a dhl yet? Im nearing 400 dry

[weary shadow]

You also get the 1 in 3 superior respawn which can be fun (and a lot of exp)

[merry sphinx]

this fight I just done hunllef used tornado like 4 or 5 times in a 2 min fight

[potent quail]

And you dont get all block slots

[tawdry carbon]

i rly like the tornados they taught me my movement

[real thicket]

the only frustrating part of hydra is when it turns red and you weren't paying attention

[merry sphinx]

one sequence on mage he used tornado then the next range attacks he used it again

[real thicket]

and you have to spend 45 seconds doing fire wall crap

it's faster for me to tp out and do another hydra

[tawdry carbon]

is tiranwin-mortyania-kandarin good for points ?

[real thicket]

hydra kills are 50 seconds rn

[weary shadow]

As in total or easy ones?

[tawdry carbon]

total

[deep basin]

total are the same other than cas

[real thicket]

the total points in a region is the same for all regions

except varlamore and karamja

[weary shadow]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Demonic_Pacts_League/Tasks

[deep basin]

if you can't complete enough cas for all ca tasks, then you cap out earlier

if you can complete enough, then it's the same total as everywhere else

[tawdry carbon]

do u have to max every region to get dragn rank?

[weary shadow]

There are a bunch of impossible tasks and diaries still though so be warned

[real thicket]

if you want more points at an easy pace avoid shit like priff

it's elite task heavy and the red prison will eat you

[tawdry carbon]

i already finished coruption gauntlety

[real thicket]

good, now do it 99 more times if you want a dragon cup

[tawdry carbon]

why 149 times more?

[real thicket]

there is a task for 100 completions

[merry sphinx]

140 echos done

[tawdry carbon]

i did it already

[potent quail]

You do need every echo weapon

[merry sphinx]

im missing the lvl 3 armour ones

[tawdry carbon]

i ahve mechanix just not knwoledge

lol

[real thicket]

cg is a huge hurdle out of the way then

[potent quail]

So thats like 50 echo cg?

[potent quail]

Touching that once i get 75% prayer pen

[simple hazel]

I beat the special challenge! woo!

[tawdry carbon]

i dont have prayer pen

[potent quail]

Then blasting that guy with 1 tick pstaff

[eternal heron]

how feasible is afk pickpocket paladians in ardy for hard clues with larc relic

[simple hazel]

that was hard with cross bow build

[eternal heron]

thinking of camping for hard clues

[potent quail]

Super easy

Like takes a minite

But super afk

[eternal heron]

sweet

[potent quail]

I already farmed 30 elite clues from the other npc

[pure karma]

whats the hardest colo wave?

[eternal heron]

other npc?

[potent quail]

In hindsight

Elite clues you get enoigh from slayer

[potent quail]

Hero i think

[eternal heron]

I'm thinking of reloading into clue relic just because of the clogs/clue tasks

ah

[tawdry carbon]

how many combat style do i need for colrenseum?

[potent quail]

But superiors drop elite clues like candy

[pure karma]

1

[potent quail]

And you only need 75

[pure karma]

im only using range

[potent quail]

Noooo clue relic is quite bad this league

[potent quail]

Wait do you have zeah?

[little wraith]

should have melee for sol right?

[tawdry carbon]

sol hranhandit need maylay?

can i melee entire conrolseum?

[little wraith]

yes but range works better for all except sol

[potent quail]

Zeah solves master clues

I dont know how much the clue relic helps with master clues

If you dont have zeah, clue relic becomes better

[copper gorge]

1/500 ish drop. I did 3k pickpockets and hit one time

[pure karma]

with enough accuracy, can i range sol?

[potent quail]

But its full afk

[slim crag]

Oh yeah. It's all coming together.

[potent quail]

I stilö think thats worth it over every active method

[copper gorge]

Ish, you have to empty the coin pouches when it gets to 280

[potent quail]

Yeah

How man minutes is that actually i dont know

How many ticks is 1 pickpocketv

[little wraith]

took me 315 kc to get trident 5 fangs though and 6 visage

[copper gorge]

🤷‍♂️

[real thicket]

2

[karmic wind]

is the nightmare boss that difficult?

[lofty frigate]

guys, whats the water thorn mage build ppl are using

anyone has the planner

[real thicket]

faux's build, it's on youtube

[potent quail]

5.5 minute afk

Thats solid

Not eh or gemcrab lvl but close

[real thicket]

yeah, it's not bad

[steep arrow]

Would the infernal tecpatl do more damage than drygore against demonic monkeys w/ no melee/ranged pacts? I feel like the demonbane is kinda slick

[cloud panther]

I just made my own build

it works

[potent quail]

You go thorns mastery
You pick the heal 2 when hit by 0 node
You go water mastery

[lofty frigate]

but its not water mage

[potent quail]

His new account is

[real thicket]

new account is

[potent quail]

But its the same build basicly

[real thicket]

build is the same, just take the water nodes and cast speed over fast casting

[potent quail]

Just 4 points in a different spot

[lofty frigate]

ok

[real thicket]

but it's kind of crap compared to the powered staff build

so keep that in mind

[potent quail]

Is it?

[lofty frigate]

i think shadowflame water probably better than powererd

[real thicket]

yes, cause u need more pact point investment in water spells that he used for accuracy in other build to wear tank gear

[potent quail]

He still has the pstaff node

So its the pstaff build

Just not with 4 points in mellee nodes

[real thicket]

so you need to actually wear mage gear

then your thorns kind of sucks

[pure karma]

how do i cross this?

my guys just standing there

[potent quail]

I think he will just cut the mellee nodes

[real thicket]

probably

but thorns is crap if your bonus defences are low

[pure karma]

what stats do you need for thorns to work

[real thicket]

so you're either wearing ahrims or you have crap thorns

and ahrims is kind of crap

[potent quail]

The build is massivly buffed though thanks to the accuracy increade

[real thicket]

thorn damage is +1 per 100 defence bonus

base hit damage is 3

[lofty frigate]

i dont like the +1-+2 healings from the old build while using mage tbh

since the water is just healing tons each cast

[real thicket]

water doesn't even need it yeah

and it doesn't need the prayer restore

[austere gazelle]

does zulrah drop toxic trident or do u still need kandarin to make it

[real thicket]

my buddy is on full water build, no thorns, and he can face tank yama for the entire fight

[little wraith]

drop trident

[real thicket]

like the thorns shit is bait on water mage

[austere gazelle]

ty

[lofty frigate]

im thinking about this but want to check some planner to see

[real thicket]

it's really good if you can wear tank gear

[potent quail]

Well you can wear some hybrid

So you have some mage accuracy but also a lot of def

[real thicket]

it's good for early/mid game

but end game no tank, it's pointless

[cloud panther]

I am water thorns, I chose the build for specific fights like vard and doin the jad challenges

[real thicket]

@potent quail there is no point

[tawdry carbon]

how do i get drakan medallain ?

[real thicket]

just go full water+air and ignore thorns entirely

[austere gazelle]

theres a guy in the basement of the vampire city that gives it for free

[potent quail]

Well air is a endgame build you cant start with that

The gesr req is hella annoying to get

[real thicket]

or do what I did and go full tank and ignore water entirely

dinh's bulwark + thorns = afk colosseum

[tawdry carbon]

where exactly?

[real thicket]

pray mage, walk away, come back to click debuffs afk

[cloud panther]

if I had bloodfury I might go full thorns but alas I do not

[austere gazelle]

i also think perdu sells it for 30k

[gaunt plume]

is there a chance death talismans are bugged o_o I'm getting close to 400 dark beasts kc

[lofty frigate]

i was into powered staves thorns but jesus...didnt like it at all

[cloud panther]

no you are just unlucky

[lofty frigate]

now im thinking about reset and go for some water build

[tawdry carbon]

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Ivan_Strom found him ty

[lofty frigate]

but honestly cant figure it out the best

[tawdry carbon]

ready for that treouble brewing? meet me there at w707

[austere gazelle]

nice gl

[real thicket]

yeah 100% just go full water mage

or water / earth

or water / air

[potent quail]

I like the ostaff thorns start

Super strong super early

Solid curve into the midgame

A viable build to get all 40 pact points

So yeah if you have a better one at 35 points, i would respec then, but until that i think its just not worth the risk/extra effort

[real thicket]

just make sure you dip into ranger and get the accuracy node

[potent quail]

Well if you dont like it dont do it then^^

What did you not like/what are you looking for?

[silent garnet]

This is terrible AWFUL advice.

Borderline mute worthy

[little wraith]

95% chance to have one at 400kc

[potent quail]

What

[potent quail]

What

[lofty frigate]

it felt low damage and heal....it has a good overheal, pray sustain and etc but felt lack of damage and big heal drops

@potent quail

[silent garnet]

He literally couldn't have known how it was going to be like AND he doesn't have the ability to respec to try other things until he finds what he likes

[potent quail]

How man pact points do you have?

[lofty frigate]

28

[gaunt plume]

plus 20 night beasts, Imma go grab another task x)

[potent quail]

Ah not meaning it in that way

Just the general statement: do whats fun for you, dont feel forced to do x because its optimal or most efficent

[lofty frigate]

im not sayin its bad, just didnt fit to my playstyle

[real thicket]

we need a repeatable task to unlock pact resets

like killing echo bosses or something

[silent garnet]

The limited respec system combined with the extremely vague (borderline decieitful) description of many of the pacts makes it VERY hard to find a build that actually does what you want.

[real thicket]

or every 100m xp

[potent quail]

I sadly dont know enough about other builds to share my experiences

But water air looks fun, if you get the 50 prayer req

[silent garnet]

Sorry, spark - I don't mean to sound combative (I was born this way, pls forgive)

I'm just so frustrated with the pact descriptions

[tawdry carbon]

damn did i take too long

[real thicket]

people want to try different builds and experiment, then get punished for it

[tawdry carbon]

yep thats where im at

[lofty frigate]

ye, right

[real thicket]

like the dude that found out ranged echos don't work with the 25% damage switch node

[silent garnet]

IT does feel this way yes

[tawdry carbon]

i have no more respecs and a broken tree

so im basically palying vanilla

[hoary sigil]

Hi everyone, has anyone taken Frem and tried to do Throne of Misc? I'm trying to get favor for the end of the quest and no matter what I do, everyone says "Who are you again?" I've fished, raked, cut trees? I am losing my mind.

[steep arrow]

Killing X many echo bosses should give a freee reset, idk why they didn't do that

[silent garnet]

I'm so sorry bro. That sucks.

[tawdry carbon]

its ok

im getting better at the game

[lofty frigate]

im on my last respec haha

thats why im trying to get a good build now

[steep arrow]

Would allow for infinite testability while also encouraging people to do the bosses

[potent quail]

Yeah fair

I theorized many many hours in the week before league starts so i know the whole tree in my head very well and almost every interaction

And k totally agree, my fix would be: 1 free respec every 24 hours

[real thicket]

not everyone has 10k hours into path of exile and has mastered the way of the archaic bullshit skill tree

[tawdry carbon]

@halcyon lotus yo u there?

[potent quail]

Well if you can kill echo bosses do you need a reset?

[tawdry carbon]

bro i have 10k+ hrs on path of exile -- the skill tree is better tho because u can jus grind for infinite respecs

ur never locked in on there

lol

[silent garnet]

Fuuuuu there is some stupid, final last step to do before you can get your stuff checked

[potent quail]

Didnt they make respexs much easier now with gold?

[real thicket]

I do too, but that's why my tree isn't scuffed, I feel for the bros that are stuck on broken builds

[tawdry carbon]

yes and its super cheap early game

[real thicket]

or got baited into crap youtuber builds

[warm geode]

Does anyone know if echo hunleff can actually drop crystal armor/enh seeds?

[hoary sigil]

What is it? I'm going to lose my mind. How do I finish throne of misc?

[thorn marsh]

Yes, Echo Hunllef counts as a CG kill, but with an extra roll for the Blessing..

Once you have the orb, there's, like, no reason to ever do normal CG again since Echo skips the prep phase entirely..

[potent quail]

In jagex defence

This is the first time they are doing this, and mistakes happen and they hoüefully learn from this and improve it.

From my point of view this tree does a lot right but alsoa. Lot wrong

[warm geode]

sorry was just checking, partner is 3x dry for even an armor seed so I wanted to make sure

[silent garnet]

Go rake the herb patch on the west side

You need to hit like 90% approval before they'll even acknowledge you.

Its like 100+ fish to catch, but the raking is way faster

[tawdry carbon]

oh

there are combat achievements for regular gauntlet?!

wtf lmao!

[lofty frigate]

lol poe is not even reasonable to compare to this...poe is like 10 000 years better planned

[hoary sigil]

Is it normal they'll say we don't know you for ages? should I just keep raking? it seemed like I was getting nowhere.

[tawdry carbon]

i guess i gotta go back to gauntlet 🤣

[silent garnet]

Yea, you ahve to hit a really high, stupid threshhold

[potent quail]

I think rake is 50% for 1 point

You need 100 points

[hoary sigil]

Damn ok thank you very much I'll keep trying the raking

Much appreciated guys

[potent quail]

Or 80

I dont remmeber the quest

[hoary sigil]

Fair enough it has been years since I did this I just thought it was glitched because of some relic

[thorn marsh]

How does Lithic Sceptre compare to Toxic Trident on single targets..? Does the spec make it worth using, or should I just save it for Nylos..?

[potent quail]

Could be
I always chop wood at misc

[lofty frigate]

so after all that...any planners for mage builds haha

dont want to mess it up again

[tame flax]

you gotta be shittin me

[toxic vortex]

Hey. That's a task

Gold sinks

And crystal thrones

[tame flax]

why wont duradel give me any smoke devils or araxytes :/

ive used like 1000 points skipping

[potent quail]

You got the slayer lvl for these?

[tame flax]

i am 95 slayer

[potent quail]

He hates you

[oak forum]

rng ig

only gotten it twice as well, out of who knows how many

[tawdry carbon]

wow lbood shard is rare

[thorn marsh]

Why is Echo Gargoyles so easy..?

I can nearly AFK it..

[tawdry carbon]

depends on your tree.
i have basically no tree so i had to play the game a bit

but mages are able to afk pretty much every boss lol

[potent quail]

Sont know the wieghtings can check that in the block tab

Maybe worth it to block some high weight stuff?

[tawdry carbon]

u wanna try with my tree?

[oak forum]

I personally like echo ggs they're fun for me at least but I suck at pvm

[potent quail]

In general i do think cg doesnt fit in this league

[tawdry carbon]

try echo gargs for this

[potent quail]

Lots of pact builds that just doesnt work at all

[oak forum]

looks rough

[potent quail]

Wtf is this build

[tawdry carbon]

nah, if you play the mechanic you take 0 damage

you just stand in melee range, on thier attack tick run over 2 tiles and just dont stand on shadows

you literally take 0 damage the entire time. and you dont have to pray anything.

[tawdry carbon]

im out of respecs dont judge me

i play it like path of exile.
i find item -> i put points for that item

[potent quail]

Why not fully commit to 1 style before investing into the next one?

[mint cargo]

that's not how most ppl play poe either 😛

[uneven laurel]

So Doom is immune to thorns, and for some reason he sometimes shockwaves without doing volatile earth first. And the weapons he's intended to be fought with are Misthalin locked. How am I supposed to do a deep delve.

[tawdry carbon]

u can see me top 10 on ssfhc ruthless ladder

[cursive glacier]

out of respecs by 18 points holy

[tawdry carbon]

that is literally how u have to play on ssfhc ruthless

lol

u change ur build based on supp gems u find or items u find because of the scarcity

[torpid current]

not a single echo item yet btw :( come on game

[thorn marsh]

I have two resets lefts, and I'm already basically locked in to my final build..

[mint cargo]

oof

[thorn marsh]

The only things I have left to pick up are a few +Accuracy nodes..

[torpid current]

at least i get pity soon on this one

[tawdry carbon]

its ok i feel u bro

[oak forum]

I'm currently stuck at 34 pacts

[mint cargo]

thinking of whether I want to do a second run, any fun builds for regions that don't include KMW

[tawdry carbon]

i went to hard pity on every single one lol

[torpid current]

oh god lol

[tawdry carbon]

its ok at least there is pity

i dont mind that

[torpid current]

yeah

[queen thicket]

I accidentally just nuked someone newer to the league by accident at vetion

😭

[tawdry carbon]

You know how long I farmed for the first ashes in PoE ruthless in the server?

[queen thicket]

my funny flask just destroyed them

[potent quail]

Ashes?

[long trail]

help
what do i use on echo thermy
he is fucking 99 defense squared

[tawdry carbon]

what are ur tohughts on flask vs minion?

[potent quail]

Thats the nerfed version

[tawdry carbon]

throw away item on "normal" poe
insane GG chase item on ruthless which is wat i play

[queen thicket]

both are good, it's up to what you find fun

[long trail]

i know bro what the fuck is this boss
mechanics are easiest out of all echo bosses
but they built bro a tank body

how am i genuinely meant to kill this guy like 50 times

12 minute kc 😭

[potent quail]

Adhes of the stars?

[tawdry carbon]

yeap

[oak forum]

I think thermy is annoying af not the eaiest at all imo

[long trail]

liek the go in circle pray right is fine

[tawdry carbon]

yep, i had 1 of the first ones ever found on ruthless

[long trail]

the defense is insane

[robust fern]

Echo kbd super easy, right?

[tawdry carbon]

and 1 of the ppl in my group was first lv100 ruthless and 1st mageblood on ruth

[toxic vortex]

I think you can force reset the cooldown on flask by teleporting to CG and enter/leave the instance

[long trail]

i can survive but i cant kill him ._.

[potent quail]

You fought uber elder in ruthless?

[toxic vortex]

Then go back to whatever you were killing

[tawdry carbon]

i killed all ubers in ruth

[mint cargo]

uber exarch

[thorn marsh]

Is getting the Blade of Saeldor worth it for fighting normal Guardians if I'm not specced into melee, or should I just stick with the Abyssal Tentacle..?

[tawdry carbon]

also its from uber eater not elder

[potent quail]

Tha es crazy

I played so much poe but stayed the helll away from ruthless

[toxic vortex]

Are you doing the light build?

[thorn marsh]

I have the Enhanced Weapon Seed for it, but I don't have enough crystals to sing it into a weapon..

[tawdry carbon]

abyss tent is fine

its not a dps check or anything its just a movement check

[thorn marsh]

This is my current build..

[tawdry carbon]

u can dodge all damage

yea ur golden

[thorn marsh]

Dusk is just immune to mage, so I need some melee swap to deal with him..

[tawdry carbon]

ignore the other ones

just wear ur whip and straight melee the guy in the middle

on his attack tick move 2 tiles

[potent quail]

Aby whip?

[long trail]

you're joking

[tawdry carbon]

im not kidding u need no HP or prayer for echo garg if u melee

its just a skill check

[thorn marsh]

Tentacle whip, but same thing basically..

[oak forum]

I think his talknig normal? if not, then jsut zerg middle

[toxic vortex]

This is a bug with a plugin

[torpid current]

idk i am hitting every time pretty much with magic

[long trail]

what kinda magic?

[potent quail]

Yeah just go full tank and whip him

[tawdry carbon]

yes im telling u, just run to his face, step >=2 tiles to the side (never leave melee range) and only fight dusk

[torpid current]

part trident, part water surge

[tawdry carbon]

u take 0 damage the entire ifght

[thorn marsh]

Rad.. Thank you..

[tawdry carbon]

and u dont need to pray

[long trail]

do u have 1t trident or

[tawdry carbon]

its a skill check.

[torpid current]

yeah

[long trail]

okay okay

[oak forum]

I just ranged echo ggs, pray range and zerg the boss, and last phase is over before I get hit

[torpid current]

i did also go to a lot of the accuracy nodes so maybe thats helping me too

[thorn marsh]

I'm talking about normal Gargoyles, not Echo..

[torpid current]

plus prayer penetration

[thorn marsh]

I need the combat acheivements for Perfect Kills without leaving the instance..

[oak forum]

thought as much

[tawdry carbon]

oh u dont have orb yet?
Then ya, just whop him the normal way.

[mint cargo]

I did dusk with boppers on a fully ranged tree

was totally fine

[thorn marsh]

Please read the words that I am typing..

[oak forum]

just bring any crush?

[thorn marsh]

Or don't.. I don't fucking care anymore, and I got my answer..

[torpid current]

lol

[oak forum]

someone got mad for no reason lol

[torpid current]

they jus tryin to help

[oak forum]

^

I play thorns / crossbow and just afked on dusk when not doing echo boss

lol

he killed himself and I got to eat meanwhile

[lost slate]

do i rock the water spell/thorns over one tick trident or?

[warm smelt]

330 kills callisto. kill me

[mint cargo]

could let callisto do that

[oak forum]

I killed 650 demonics for my monke tail

[cyan cove]

even with echo guardians its AFK til phase three where you just run in circles

[oak forum]

I'm happy I got my lithic its nice

[tawdry carbon]

i havent used mine yet

but im gonna do barrows with it soon

or zolrah

[lavish jungle]

do you guys think i can swap from bow into mage if i already took asgarnia and tirranwn? i was planning to take desert next

[mint cargo]

o that reminds me I need to get a heavy ballista before I spec out of crossbow

[ancient wolf]

what's a good place to afk melee stats with just varlamore, karamja and mory with thorns

[tawdry carbon]

has anyone here tried a blindbag halberd + 1t staff hybrid ?

[torpid current]

sulfur naguas

[oak forum]

I use the heavy ballista for funsies, its a lotta fun, since I didnt pick wildy, but still play xbow

[little wraith]

what i'm doing right now

[plucky pine]

anyone know if a blood fury can overheal if you have overheal pacts?

[brazen chasm]

i am 1t powered staff, nhally, and cbows

[mint cargo]

ye I have kbd xbow I just want to see the number lol

[little wraith]

the staff usually out performs the halberd

[little saddle]

how do you even get avernic treads in leagues

[little wraith]

but blind bag has higher potential

[little wraith]

vardorvis

[brazen chasm]

my fastest times on halberd are like 6x my fastest times on staff, but my normal times on halberd, xbow, and staff are all pretty consistent with eachother +-8ish seconds

[little wraith]

no im dumb it doomm

[fresh nacelle]

I think damage on echo bosses is bugged, at least from blindbag and ranged echo sources

[brazen chasm]

where so?

[fresh nacelle]

i hit a 67/67 on echo thermy and his health went down by like, 40

[little saddle]

thermy health is wrong on the thing

[fresh nacelle]

ah is it?

[little saddle]

something like should be 10X the amount of health

2500 vs 250

[fresh nacelle]

ah i see it, that makes a lot more sense

Thank you for the explanation, I thought I was going crazy

lol

[pastel estuary]

damn bloodied blows with water mage is a challenge ><

[pliant temple]

just finished up cerb, i was worried it would take a while until i realized the unique table is a 1/26 to roll with the drop rate boost

[toxic vortex]

Do you have one of the boss health bar plugins?

[loud beacon]

200 demo gorillas and no zenyte wtf is this game am i bugged

[pastel estuary]

yikessss

[hushed river]

Hey so im about to reload but im kinda stuck wondering which one i should pick, anyone have any suggestions? Current areas wildy, asgarnia and desert, current relics endless, hotfoot, evil, clues, nature, and culling spree

[toxic vortex]

Lmao I had 4 in like 91kc

[loud beacon]

i reloaded into soul harvest personally

[late helm]

I was doing bloodveld slayer in meyerditch labs. But you need to tag each bloodveld first

[little wraith]

I reloaded to endless sustenance

[pastel estuary]

just make goading potions

[hushed river]

Like honestly its in between larcenist and eternal rn but i just dont know which one is better for me

[little wraith]

do you suck at pvm

[lone bloom]

can you get the wildy sword from the diaries? the guy who gives it is in edgeville

[hushed river]

I havent done too much yet so probably

[late helm]

You can pick the reload relic to get the 16x multiplier and reserve the <t7 relic choice for later

[hushed river]

Like i did godwars and kbd but they arent that hard right

[little wraith]

you might want endless for ToA

[hushed river]

Wait you can do that?

Sick

[little wraith]

you need and ornamented osmuten fang for pact

[pastel estuary]

really easy to get if u go to a toa world

lot of lobbies will carry u

just play to not die

[little wraith]

I am an antisocial weirdo

[late helm]

Yeah that’s what I did. I unlocked reload but am still deciding if I should go the clue relic/ soul harvest/grimoire/farming relic

[pastel estuary]

i mean ur doing more socialising here on dc than u'd ever have to do to join a toa lobby xD

[late helm]

That’s viable too

[torpid current]

yay double pity

[hushed river]

That choice actually sucks, too many good relics

[pallid moth]

they moved him and krystilia to ferox for this league

[hushed river]

Well thanks for the help yall, ill think about it some more

[lone bloom]

ty

[young osprey]

sweet, 75k gp of alch money

[torpid current]

lol

[pallid moth]

honestly, they should be there in the main game tbh. maybe not the exact placement, but imo they fit the vibe of the place

put krystilia in the bar

[little wraith]

is the respawning superior slayer monsters bugged? I've killed 10 guardian drakes and not one has respawned

[torpid current]

errr is castle wars meant to be steamy

[toxic vortex]

Rng

[oak forum]

I had that "bug" from having been in the smoke devil dungeon

[toxic vortex]

I've had clan mates go 10+ superiors in a row

[oak forum]

it kept being smokey 😄

[young osprey]

osrs players: get marginally unlucky
also osrs players: is this a bug?

[little wraith]

.5^10 =0.000976562

[cyan torrent]

abby tentacle or infernal tecpatl for melee? Seems like the tentacle wins for slashing, but a high slash resistance on a mob makes the tecpatl better?

[young osprey]

that's not how probability works

[torpid current]

whats wrong with it

[young osprey]

ugh it is correct it's just represented really badly

[torpid current]

idk looks normal to me

[young osprey]

convert that to a fraction then

[torpid current]

oh i guess a fraction would be more readable yea

[young osprey]

because that gives you a much easier representation

[little wraith]

1/1000

[torpid current]

1/1024

[toxic vortex]

But also, the failed rolls on the subsequent superiors have nothing to do with the prior ones

They are isolated events

[oak forum]

ye

its seperate

so not culminative

[late helm]

I’m definitely leaning towards clue relic. I think that’ll be the biggest time save for me

[torpid current]

1/1024 is for if they are all mutually exclusive im p sure

if they had to do with prior it would be different yea

[little wraith]

same as flipping 10 fair coins and getting all heads or all tails

[late helm]

50/50 chance. It either happens or it doesn’t

[loud beacon]

can you turn an onyx amulet (u) back into an onyx? i made 2 instead of 1 lmao

[oak forum]

doubt it

[pure karma]

did they buff the range boots drop rate?

i dont think i can handle doing 400

[late helm]

1 for rancour 1 for bloodfury

[young osprey]

skill issue, I got it after 6 meds

[loud beacon]

is that morytania?

[pure karma]

i have the catch imps for clues

theyre terrible

[willow finch]

Doing clues in this leagues is ass man

[loud beacon]

rancour is Zenyte amulet (u)

not onyx

oh yeah i can make a blood fury ur right

[torpid current]

clue relic tho

[loud beacon]

aaaand its not even a task

[pure karma]

clue relic shouldnt exist

[late helm]

Oh whoops lol 😂

[pure karma]

sure it is

[late helm]

Did you find a crystal imp?

[pure karma]

im not tir

[loud beacon]

oh i had unlocked regions filtered

dont have morytania yet

[limber peak]

Out of Kandarin Tiranym Wilderness, which has the easiest and fastest tasks to get me to the next region

[little wraith]

probably kand

[torpid current]

i heard wilderness is easy tasks but idk how true it is

[pure karma]

its a lot of farming

[little wraith]

if you have some busted pact build wildy could be faster

[limber peak]

i havent really invested in combat at all yet

just been doing skilling pacts

[glacial shell]

any tob mass worlds?

[torpid current]

666 for p much every mass

of everything

[glacial shell]

no one tobbin damn

[torpid current]

try 657 583

[glacial shell]

nope

[torpid current]

prob a bad time then

[glacial shell]

yeah prolly. no biggie

[peak crypt]

Have any of you got 99 cons just to use the cape tele to get around?

[lone bloom]

do the weaker version of the wildy bosses count for the tasks? i.e. calvarion instead of vetion

[thorny summit]

Yep

Is Endless Harvest woodcutting teaks the best woodcutting xp without tick manipulation?

[simple hazel]

I had a 41k exp drop at arraxxor with crossbow lol over 300 dmg

[lone bloom]

yes

[young osprey]

yes

[lone bloom]

cuz its also the best in main game

[little wraith]

does nature accord work on crystal trees?

[chilly bane]

there anywebsites or posts that show some of the best league builds?

i keep seeing people using water spells but cant find a build for it

[warm smelt]

each path is literally a straight line pretty much

[young osprey]

click all water spell pacts
click all thorns pacts
???
profit

[little wraith]

don't you need the overheal pacts?

[simple hazel]

I just need 8 more pacts i can smell victory

[young osprey]

sure, but the difference between optimal and not optimal will be negligible when it comes to those pacts

[pure karma]

man

[smoky raft]

just got a best in slot for vibes

[torpid current]

holy molys is a task

[pure karma]

yeah

[chilly bane]

would this be a decent build?

[thorn marsh]

You can save a pact point by going from Thorns to the 0.1% chance to reflect node instead of going up from the start..

You lose 5% regen, but it frees up one point to go somewhere else..

[spring cipher]

40 pacts achieved i can finally just pvm now

[torpid current]

Gzzz

[covert wolf]

can i get purple efficiently from solo cox?

[spring cipher]

all i missing but i cba

[covert wolf]

the heck that's fast

[thorn marsh]

I'm still 35/40.. ;_;

I could probs try Awakened Vardorvis, but I feel like it'll be a struggle even with the healing from 1t Trident..

[old tapir]

so i think having played for a good bit now, i think the fun was easier to find last league

[thorn marsh]

My slash defense is only +187..

[torpid current]

2nd pity yay lol

[old tapir]

like there's more complexity in the pacts for those who choose to dig into it and you can match that with your relic picks and region picks and do a whole thing with it

[thorn marsh]

I'm so close to being done with Echo fights forevs..

[old tapir]

but you really have to know what you're doing and its a headache to be at the point of doing that

[spring cipher]

for a casual for fun gamemode it didnt feel very casual

thats for sure

[lone bloom]

people keep pking me in leagues

in wildy

[thorn marsh]

Except probs Echo CG, but that's only for farming crystals to upkeep my armour..

[torpid current]

ehhhhhhh ive winged it completely with no prior info and its my first leagues and i had fun

[spring cipher]

like i get what they're trying to do but leagues is supposed to be all about the fun and being overpowered

[old tapir]

to be honest i feel weaker than last league

[spring cipher]

im ngl my friend is running a blindbag build and even maxed out in pacts his proc rates are still kinda meh

[torpid current]

though i did luck into a meta build without knowing it was meta

[spring cipher]

like just give them 60% and call it a day like seriously

[timid sage]

maxed out how

full blood moon? ham joint?

[spring cipher]

as in 40 pacts and procs still suck

[old tapir]

but i would write most of that up to attack speed and accuracy

[timid sage]

i mean his gear

[spring cipher]

no he went hally blindbag

and prayer gear

[old tapir]

attacking any slower than 2 ticks in a league just feels awful

[spring cipher]

irrc

[old tapir]

especially when you miss pretty often

[timid sage]

hally blindbag

[spring cipher]

bluetooth build

i saw and it wasnt proccing as often

[timid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-laugh-you-go-to-hell-they-still-laughing-if-you-laugh-gif-11539776701605221451

[spring cipher]

and im like "what the hell" lol

hes respeccing into another build soon tho

[timid sage]

blindbag needs a double hit weapon

[spring cipher]

behold his blue tooth try and afk at guardians in cox tech

[timid sage]

hally and blindbag being neighbours on the tree is a major jagex troll

because they do not work together in the slightest

[old tapir]

yeah the lines to the capstones are not ordered in any way that makes sense

the only one that kinda does is earth spells and thorns

[timid sage]

it's blindbag + range echo for the real league feel

[warm smelt]

460kc callisto.

dear god

[timid sage]

there's some weird way with how range + bb is calculated that makes the bloon moon stuff bis

[torpid current]

lol

[toxic vortex]

It's the way those weapons have their hits divided

Vs the scythe

[molten gust]

So found an interesting little bug with the araxyte cave. If the last time you entered the cave was off task. Teleporting in with evil eye will have all the side tunnels blocked off for you. Like I couldn't go into the boss at all. Had to leave and come in the normal way to fix it.

[pallid moth]

even with the extreme sustain from the crossbow, this was my most stressful fight cave aside from my first ever lol

[uneven laurel]

is there a way to get a guaranteed death talisman? Somehow I never got one from a dark beast

[covert wolf]

solo cox wasn't so bad

[cyan cove]

40 grotesque echos and no weapon

why

[livid slate]

Could be worse

You could be 36 HMT and no voucher like me

[cyan cove]

totally thought echo weapons were garenteed at 40

[livid slate]

Double drop rate

60 kills I think for mory

[gaunt plume]

update I got the death talisman at 471kc and 25 superious x)

[livid slate]

nvm it's 50

[pallid moth]

should I wait for my butler to finish doing my crafting so I can use a torm brace for "melee" fight caves?

[little saddle]

how do you do the thermy combat achievement if you went thorns?

i can’t only use special attacks to kill it

dies before i get a chance to

[cyan cove]

I got gaurdian boots before the echo weapon

RNG WHY

[fickle thistle]

I got two sets of Aranea boots and a rancour and I still don’t have a single halberd piece

[tawdry carbon]

what is the strat to speedrun regular gauntlet? no armor, no egniol, just w-key with t2 weps?

[thorn marsh]

That mood when I've gotten, like, 10 Lithic Sceptres in 56 kills of Echo Guardians..

[pure karma]

are avernic treads rare? i heard deep devles are bugged.

[peak crypt]

All the youtubers I've been watching have gotten them left and right

[tawdry carbon]

what is the strat to speedrun regular gauntlet? no armor, no egniol, just w-key with t2 weps?

[queen thicket]

It's a classic that the first person I see player killing in the wilderness in leagues has a racist name

[thorny terrace]

hmmm whats the best tank gear in KTZ?
dragon is probably the best, huh?

[queen thicket]

Crystal, no?

[peak crypt]

The other day my only experience with it, was some dude who "accidentally" shot me and kept saying oh sorry sorry my bad! Yeah right dude lol

[queen thicket]

My guy teleblocked me and then tried to use the flask nuke

And failed

[thorny terrace]

crystal armor is not particularly tanky, no

[queen thicket]

Yes, but I believe if you are going either melee or magic that it is armor you put on for the strength bonuses given by the echo boss

Which makes your thorns stronger

I guess even with range because the melee buff is what makes that stronger

[thorny terrace]

kinda regretting the Z over M pick a little now

[tawdry carbon]

what is the strat to speedrun regular gauntlet? no armor, no egniol, just w-key with t2 weps?

[queen thicket]

I'm fairly certain I saw someone tank through the entirety of the leagues jad challenge in Crystal mage tank build

[tawdry carbon]

no pacts

just legit play

[queen thicket]

Not the Jads themselves but the spawns

Just flicking for the jads

[queen thicket]

Well usually you venge in

[tawdry carbon]

yep doing thatwht else

[queen thicket]

Fairly certain they only make egniol potions

Food is tick waste

Redemption

[pure karma]

can i not do anything about dooms venom without tir?

[queen thicket]

You can drink two antipoison

You can eat two moonlight antelope

[tawdry carbon]

ok

i did it with 2 food and tick-ate the last attack on myself, no egniol

[queen thicket]

Gz

[cyan cobalt]

Dang I finally killed echo amox

[tawdry carbon]

LFGGGG first ones always the hardest

Echo amox gets really easy once u calm down and just focus on movement

Max armor = 13 of each mat, right?

[queen thicket]

The tick perfect punish is also fun

13 sounds right yeah

[tawdry carbon]

kk

last gauntlet CA i did all the cg ones already

didnt know gaunt was separate CAs

[queen thicket]

13 because it's slightly more annoying to make you go get one material from an extra node normally

Thank you Jagex

[cyan cobalt]

I'm doing it with water magic lol

But I am killing it more often than not now. That last phase is just brutal where I feel like my movements aren't always respected/registered

[tawdry carbon]

so the last phase is actually the easiest

cuz the timing is snappiert

[quiet spindle]

does anyone know if anyone's collected a list of the best sources for soul shards?

[tawdry carbon]

and he stops hitting u

[peak crypt]

Have any of you went way over drop chance when farming for your echo boss item?

[tawdry carbon]

ive hit pity on all echo tiems

there is hard pity for them

[peak crypt]

Oh you're guaranteed at 25 kills?

[torpid current]

yes i am currently ful pity on 2 and 40 kc into my 3rd without getting it

[lilac isle]

Anyone able to recommend me a reloaded pick? Went Wildy/Kourent/Desert and using crossbows. Relics are Barbarian, Woodsman, Evil Eye, Butler's Bell, Soul Harvest, Culling Spree.

[torpid current]

double the kills

[peak crypt]

Ahhh so 50 kills then. Gotcha

[torpid current]

i might be joining u lol

[peak crypt]

I'm coming up on 25 on kbd, and I'm really getting tired of this poison lol

[tawdry carbon]

i dont mind it

lol

[lilac isle]

Was thinkin larcenist just to solve thieving, but I don't have a big unlock from thieving afaik. Could also go like hotfoot or even endless harvest? idk

[peak crypt]

I took larcenist, and it definitely does solve a lot. But man, I almost wish I had soul harvest. That way I could get through things like runecrafting super easy

[tawdry carbon]

ok

[lilac isle]

Instant RC was very nice

[tawdry carbon]

now im 100% done with gauntlet lol

[torpid current]

nvm, pog not pity

[tawdry carbon]

there is a task for echo boss killcount

[torpid current]

i already have those

[tawdry carbon]

then YOURE FREEEE! after you finish CAs on regular cerb kek

[covert wolf]

culling spree kinda crazy in 1 ttask

[golden jacinth]

anyone know if abyssal sire is bugged? i am unable to start the fight and i dont have access to shadow spells.

it's not letting me attack him directly with magic or range

[peak crypt]

I took grimoire, and I'm DEFINITELY going back for culling with reloaded. I wish I picked it instead

[golden jacinth]

neither the quandrant nor respite allows me to start the fight directly

it just says "The Sire takes no interest in you"

[lost slate]

gotta be on task?

[golden jacinth]

i am

I'm not on Sire task but I'm on abyssal demons task

[boreal imp]

Has anyone made a thorns fang of the hound build yet? Do demonic pacts over heal work for this build? and do i want the pacts the regen fire runes or no

[balmy verge]

Can the ivandis flail's magic autocast option be used against vyres/vanstrom klaus?

[lost slate]

being on a sire task should work? cant u do abby sire with demons task on main game tho?

[golden jacinth]

pretty sure u can, yeah

yeah according to the wiki abyssal demons should work

nvm i figured it out... konar's never given me a location specific task on leagues before but this time she said catacombs... that's why

[shrewd ermine]

Is the runecraft grind without soul harvest really that bad?

[golden jacinth]

no, i hit 99 rc in minutes

[shrewd ermine]

what did you do?

[golden jacinth]

all depends on how efficient u are at gathering soul shards

i did a lot of farm runs

[boreal imp]

Whats better full torva or full sunfire for fang of the hound if taking melee strength is increased by 50% of my prayer gear?

[golden jacinth]

farm runs, slayer tasks

[thorn marsh]

I'm convinced the drop rate on the Lithic Sceptre is bugged..

[golden jacinth]

anything to collect shards rapidly

[thorn marsh]

I've gotten, like, five in a row..

[golden jacinth]

oh u said without

[shrewd ermine]

yeah lol

all good. i was just thinking about doing slayer for soul shards if I reloaded to it. not sure what the alternative would be. just transmutating air runes to essence is the best I can think of

[golden jacinth]

i can't read mb 💀

[shrewd ermine]

so what would you have done if you didnt have it?

[golden jacinth]

i think transmute doesnt let u stack the essence is the issue

and also it might be noted?

[shrewd ermine]

true. is there an npc you can unnote the essence?

[shrewd ermine]

transmute does let you stack it

[golden jacinth]

not that im aware but if u do nature runes just use shilo bank

[shrewd ermine]

i think

ill have to double check

[robust fern]

4 avarices and not a hint of a rev weapon, I would like to register a complaint

[shrewd ermine]

gotcha. I also have kand and T unlocked too

ive hardly done rc in the main game ngl

i know kand has the wrath altar though

[fickle thistle]

At what point would somebody be raid ready for ToB in leagues

[chilly bane]

can someone post the water mage build? cant find it anywhere online but everyone is using it lol

[boreal imp]

With a melee thorns build do demonic pacts overheal you work or are they kind of a waste point?

[dusk cedar]

is there a wintertodt mass world for leagues?

[tawdry carbon]

i have crystal blessing + lithic
what is my ideal barrows setup?

[thorn marsh]

You can do Barrows in literally nothing.. Prayer blocks all their damage except Verac..

So, like, whatevs gear with Stab defense you have is fine enough..

[boreal imp]

Damn nobody here answering questions is leagues dead now

[dusk cedar]

apparently the ones that know things might be

[torpid current]

what does ur question mean

[covert wolf]

if anyone on wildy wanna do venenatis mass got 2 people atm on 729

300 of these for task

[torpid current]

the overheals work on any other pacts that heal u

[tawdry carbon]

anyone wanna send some tob ?

[tawdry carbon]

how many pact points do u have

and what regions do u have

[covert wolf]

as soon as i said put chat in the guy left lol

[dusk cedar]

i'm trying to get wintertodt done as fast as possible for the tasks. anyone know if there's a mass world?

[covert wolf]

are you doing 50 wintertodt?

[dusk cedar]

i'm still worlking on 10

[steep arrow]

What did I do wrong? I just hunted this kebbit and he won't take it?

[torpid current]

that isnt the special one

u gotta do it til u get the special one

[steep arrow]

Ohh

ty, never did these rumors before

[torpid current]

nws

eh i respecced into dog dagger build and... it is kind of underwhelming

the 5% chance proc way too low i never see it without the spec :(

actually nvm im dumb this is pretty cool how fast the spec regens

[little saddle]

i guess chins dont regen?

[torpid current]

someone said b4 they do, but not tried myself

[little saddle]

unfortunate

[marble kestrel]

they do

i have a bigger black chin stack than what i started with

[little saddle]

weird i just ran out

[marble kestrel]

yeah like i caught 50 black chins and have been using them at jellies when i get that task available. i'm at 189 now

[torpid current]

lol using the fang is killing me at gem crab xD

[dusk cedar]

i'm using red chins and constantly running out

[long trail]

i am, building that

[marble kestrel]

your regens must be below 100%

[long trail]

nally bowfa trident

[dusk cedar]

boy solo wintertodt is annoying if you're going for speed and not points

[long trail]

yeah

it takes a really long time to finish him

[little saddle]

mines at 125% damn

[dusk cedar]

i'm gonna hop worlds after this, see if there's a mass one

[torpid current]

try 666

[long trail]

try 400, 600, and 666

[dusk cedar]

👍

[little saddle]

nm im wrong im only at 80%

[tame flax]

i swear to god my flask just triggered a ranged echo thats not supposed to happen right

[versed root]

when i fished before with endless harvest my charater would follow the fish when it moved now big net fishing it doesnt?

[tame flax]

god i need to do colo for dragon bolts

[warm smelt]

colo is pretty chill with thorns

im on 540 kc of callisto. i got the ring twice but not hilt T_T

[obsidian cape]

is there something that gives you double loot from barrows? every time my buddy gets any equipment from them its 2 pieces

[pure karma]

i really want some avernic treads but this venom is driving me insane

[uneven laurel]

Is there some reauirement for dark beasts to drop death talismans? I'm now 2x dry on it. The other ways to get the talisman requires Asgarnia or Desert, so I'm stuck farming these things

[dusky mauve]

man why tf isnt kings ransom auto completed in asgarnia

[slim crag]

huge for air spells

[candid harbor]

1k brutal blue dragons where is my goddamn dragonic visage

[uneven laurel]

not even on rate yet

That visage is stupid rare

[tranquil pond]

i took like 1.2k black dragons and 200 iron dragons

[candid harbor]

i know its 1/2k but cmon

[tranquil pond]

how do i understand doom rates? i've done 16 successful level 8 delves thus far and haven't seen a single unique

[dusky mauve]

game doesnt like u

[warm smelt]

game wants you to touch gras

[tranquil pond]

what kind of build do you have, how long did something like that take?

[candid harbor]

idk like couple hours i guess

[tranquil pond]

my visage grind was super chill

[candid harbor]

cbow thorns

[tranquil pond]

yeah

nah

not a bad grind at all

low effort build makes it chill enough

[candid harbor]

i just put afk in middle of them and go play slay the spire

[tranquil pond]

😐

just take it as slayer training

that's what i did

[candid harbor]

i cant bricked my slayer with abyssal demons i aint doing 200 of them

[dusky mauve]

skip them

[candid harbor]

plus its already 99 slayer and already got evrything i need from slayer bosses

[candid harbor]

define bricked

[dusky mauve]

erect

[tranquil pond]

why did you take a 200 task without any points to skip

[candid harbor]

i gambled

[fathom turret]

Does Dooms 1-9 delve drop rate of 1/22 mean you need to do 22 delves to floor 9 to be on rate?

[warm smelt]

yep

[tranquil pond]

oh, is it roughly a 1/22 in leagues?

and by 1-9 does that mean stopping after 8, or killing 9

[warm smelt]

killing 9

[fathom turret]

my last run went o floor 19....

[tranquil pond]

why specifically kill 9? is it better rates than 8

[fathom turret]

how do floor 9+ work for that?

[tranquil pond]

i assumed all 8+ was the same

[warm smelt]

wiki doesnt say, but id assume its the same rate as floor 9

[tranquil pond]

the game considers 8 kills to already be deep delve, so what's the benefit of doing 9 specifically

just because it's easy as the floor isn't quite covered yet?

[candid harbor]

because some uniques only spawn from lvl 4

[warm smelt]

if its not a unique, id just keep going til i die

[tranquil pond]

maybe sense

[past birch]

ToA completed

First item: shadow
Last item: mask

[tranquil pond]

i don't have a demonbane weapon to break doom's shield, so i just sorta tank the charged shot each time

[candid harbor]

im pretty sure u do

[warm smelt]

echo boss in varlamore

[past birch]

You can use the dual weapon from amox

[tranquil pond]

no, i mean, i do

[warm smelt]

or you could just overheal and tank it

[tranquil pond]

but i ain't got time for that

[past birch]

Fair

[tranquil pond]

i don't wanna double weapon swap

since i use a 1 handed + shield

[fathom turret]

I just tank it, water mage

[tranquil pond]

also, i'm water mage, so long as i make sure to pray properly

my accuracy is low enough that sometimes it gets dicey though

water thorns specifically

[candid harbor]

i shoulda went water mage... i thought theyre gonna be squishy af but with tons of healin...

[tranquil pond]

nah

[fathom turret]

once I get to deep delves hes easier

take the charge, then he dies in car phase

[tranquil pond]

optimal is full justiciar with confliction for my build

[fathom turret]

grubs are the only dicy part for me

[tranquil pond]

grubs? what do they actually do

[fathom turret]

stack me out sometimes

with venom

[warm smelt]

you hit the grubs near him for 100 shield damage

[pure karma]

can i use dragon darts for grubs at doom?

[candid harbor]

grubs heal boss and does dmg to u if they reach boss

[tranquil pond]

i just carry a stack of venom sacks for venom healing

[warm smelt]

i just smack em with the double wep. you can smack em and the boss fast back to back

[candid harbor]

strange fruit eternal sustance gang

[tranquil pond]

shadowflame quadrant does work

[fathom turret]

wait those cure venom? lol I thought they caused it if eatten

[tranquil pond]

nah, deal 4 flat, but cure

[fathom turret]

lol

[cyan cove]

whatre yall doing for crafting xp?

[fathom turret]

Butler is my crafting xp

[tranquil pond]

butler

[candid harbor]

butler

[uneven laurel]

crafting sucks without Tiranwnn. So I took Tiranwnn

[pure karma]

you can get 5m a day from butler

[cyan cove]

[warm smelt]

cried while afk at gem store

[hazy anvil]

Anyone have suggestions on where to train combats with thorns in Varla/Karamja/Tirwanwin? So far I've been afking sand crabs

[candid harbor]

2-3 days afk string butler = 99 crafting

[fathom turret]

can also endless harvest shilo gem rocks and transmute them to dragonstones

[uneven laurel]

Maniacal monkeys

[cyan cove]

I don't have butler or transmute

[torpid current]

the answer is no i just tried it, in case u still wanted an answer

[torn acorn]

I've never really done CoX, what should I do to get maximum purples?

[hazy anvil]

Is this not in Kandarin?

[uneven laurel]

oh oops

Forgot it's kand not karamja

hmm

Forthos dungeon spiders then

[tranquil pond]

the worst part of being a thorns build
wanting to take hits to kill faster, but not wanting to gamble at getting one shot by bad damage rolls

[fathom turret]

did TOB for the first time and I gotta say, the Nyloca room is so unfun im doing picking mort for all leauges

[lone bloom]

t8, its time

[fathom turret]

done

[uneven laurel]

That room sucks ass solo, but you can solve it with the right pacts

[fathom turret]

can u speed up cleaing it?

it felt like 99% of my raid we that room

wow i cannot type, been up for way to long

[uneven laurel]

Aak someone who's doing ToB this league for more specifics. Settled took 1t powered staves for that room, so that's one thing that helps

[fathom turret]

I have the option of that echo powered staff, dunno if its spec clears them

[hazy spear]

btw the ape atoll harpoon spot, right next to the fairy ring sometimes doesnt connect with EH properly

[uneven laurel]

finally got a death talisman

was worried it was bugged or something

[tame flax]

use the ggs staff

its typeless dmg

god i love the flask

"oh wait im in a multi area" kills like 9 araxytes

[tranquil pond]

can the flask overheal?

[shy light]

Lmao, i got the arma chest from a minion

[tame flax]

no but you dont need it to

[tranquil pond]

right, so it's mostly for the damage then

yeah, i'm content with minion

[tranquil pond]

or invul frames i guess

[shy light]

Well it's decent for an emergency heal or prayer restore

[tranquil pond]

less useful for a water mage build

[tame flax]

damage, full heal, restores prayer, does 160ish dmg in a 9x9 aoe

[shy light]

I used it at krill to restore my prayer

[tame flax]

has like a 60 second cooldown

[shy light]

Actually it does about 220 damage, mine is hitting 73s

[tame flax]

oh it clears venom and stuff too i think

[shy light]

Yep

[tranquil pond]

i think the only thing i'd use the flask for is cheesing stuff like sol heredit

[tame flax]

but hey i mean, flask doesnt pick up my bolts i guess

[shy light]

Flask recharges 0.6 seconds faster every time you hit over a 10

[tame flax]

that i am definitely running out of

[shy light]

With hally blind bag with multi hit weapons and ranged echos you can recharge the flask super fast

[tranquil pond]

i enjoy that i don't need to have to think about using minion, it just sorta does it's thing

and it's nice for slayer

[tame flax]

oh it can also tickeat deaths

[tranquil pond]

interesting

[shy light]

The flask almost instantly kills the GWD bosses

It's been fun

[lone bloom]

gave my minion the max dps woot

[tranquil pond]

man, i just want doom to give me even a single unique

[tranquil pond]

i still need to do more clues 💀

[uneven laurel]

Anyone up to swap fight pits wins for Karamja hard diary?

[placid creek]

I can't decide on clues or larcenist for reloaded

[queen trail]

I just did waves 1-4 on repeat untill i had all the items and most of the tears

[tranquil pond]

i just go until i die

i'm at 22 8+ runs now

[paper hull]

Is there a way to cheeese easy clues if i only have varlamore and karamja unlocked?

[lone bloom]

dig at aldarin

[placid creek]

larcenist solves thieving, blood gems, crafting, smithing. But clues solves clues

[lone bloom]

larc helps getting clues too

[placid creek]

But all of those items you have to equip to spam clues

[cloud panther]

just 42 more kills of alchemical hydra and I got the deed done

[tranquil pond]

all these doom kills have basically told me that i'm not good enough at the game to ever do doom outside of leagues

[paper hull]

Wdym? All clues will be there only?

[austere ember]

I'd try to simulate a "regular" doom kill and crutch on leagues stuff when you need if the goal is to learn it for outside the game

[cyan cove]

so is aldarin gems really the only good crafting method

I feel like farming d hides isn't it

[tranquil pond]

i probably wouldn't even try without at least a scorching bow

[hollow umbra]

have people tried quad recharge eye of ayak build?

[fickle jasper]

It’s a big learning curve

[austere ember]

u need scobow minimum, yes

[cloud panther]

a what now

[cyan cove]

leagues is the only time I can boss

[austere ember]

unless u do d1-d3

[fickle jasper]

If you keep practicing it, you’ll learn it eventually

[cyan cove]

I just brute force mechanics lol

[hollow umbra]

eye of ayak to trigger all elemental recharge effects

[tranquil pond]

eh, i enjoy farming muspah enough, i don't feel the need to learn doom

[cloud panther]

why use eye of arak? it's no faster than any other powered staff this league

[austere ember]

on iron, I farmed it for confl

[hollow umbra]

confliction gauntlet accuracy ig

[austere ember]

does not necessitate other regions ig