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how is boss on 3hp when i just hit it for 58x3 typeless dmg while invuln 🙂
Flask used, kill 2 Callisto, can use flask again
Cool down based on damage dealt
Feels good with king barrage
Does the cd also include the damage flask does itself?
Yeah but I'm planning to kill the boss more than once smh
Nope
echos pump out dmg so they trigger the cd constantly if you're doing bows or melee
i assume thorns does as well
Even if I used the flask as a finisher Nex would be already down again before the flask is up again :(
Yeah it's a great relic I'm still not super decided on t8
anyone know if prayer pen does anything for the nylo room in tob?
I still haven't check if flask can penetrate prayer or no
I would have spam it a lot on akkha
... I think it's typeless?
can this even be used?
or if lithic sceptre is useful there
as typeless damage.
Yeah it should ignore prayer
pretty nice group of tasks if you have woodsman and have K and T unlocked
One thing I was thinking if I take flask is that I could easily recharge emaul spec
But with the acc buffs idk how much that is worth even vs like Sol
does "catch 500 chinchompas" include red and black ones?
No idea
If you want looting bag you can get it free on wildy agility I think
i'd assume so
I got it for black ones
they should make a rune pouch note
Slayer free
Just go reward and take it
how long do dropped clues stay on ground
its 750 for me
You didn't take the slayer relic?
Clue scrolls? 1 hour, not ticking down while you're offline iirc

hell no
Clue boxes I think are on normal 3min timer
Boxes dropped by monsters on 2min iirc
thx. i dropped a bunch before i logged out and theyre still there the next morning
as wind mage should i take fremnik for dragonbone necklace or kourend for devout boots
I unlock zeah and desert
Free ancient and arcuess spellbook
Grimoire prove to be useless
i took it for spell swapping after thralls and for piety
i like piety
Eternal sustenance has its use on cg
its been sick
the damagew form it really adds up
Zeah made Grimoire useless (...ish, crafting aether runes would be nice and requires lunars) to me too but then again
after getting from 25 to 30 pacts, i am now finally focusing on task points again 🙂
i dont have zeah or kand tho
If it's t6 relic vs an entire region...
what was grimoire like before?
But grimoire can do all spell tasks which are easy to do
I wanted Zeah for other reasons too so it wasn't just region vs relic but if it were just region vs relic then I'd totally be skipping culling for grimoire too
Both arceuss and lunar spell has tasks to be done
i dont recall it being any diff last league
anyone know if you can break down oathplate dupes without asgarnia?
Grimoire was a Tier 7 relic in the Raging Echoes League, and gave the following benefits:
Players will receive the Arcane grimoire
Can be used to freely swap between all spellbooks
Acts as a book of the dead
Unlocking this relic gives access to all Prayers and spells regardless of area, quest, or diary requirements.
The Arcane grimoire can be r...
hey guys i cant seem to find a way to get any gear. im 99 all combats but still using steel armor. been stuck on moons for hours and no luck
lmao
keep running out of food ):
dont you need high hunter for that?
also is mixed hide better than steel?
nvm ill try to figure it out ):
you need 72, this is leagues though thats like 2 hours
Chaos fanatic is being very rude, 8 odium shards but no maledictions
ill just level up mining and smithing to 99 so i can make rune i suppose
you can buy adamant armor from the store
right near the home teleport
you can buy a helmet and a kite shield at the shop at sunset coast and the shop at mistrock beneath aldarin
where to i farm abyssal whip in kandarin ?
ohh wow nice. ok thanks 🙂
or you can just level hunter and have armor that has no business being as good and free as it is
ill start there
thank you
isnt that good against magic? not really bette rthan adamant armor?
damn how are we tanking the tek rak challenge 3? i miss prayers on that one too easily
it has str bonus and youre doing melee combat, also has good boots and cape that you will wear for a long time
Or do i just forget the healers?
be a water mage
i just keep getting hit wiith 20's in a row and dont have a window to attack on moons. str isnt the problem
i just keep chain eatting cuz no gear lol
it was DIP
do you have any combat pacts?
then yeah try addy for now, see how it fairs
I have 1 tick trident build right now.
can you use the fletching shop in catherby for profit or just quick xp burning gold?
i think i accidently bless someone
only the ranged one ): I should probably respec but I already did one T.T
leave moons till later in ur league journey then. focus on tasks in varla/karamja rn
what part of the journey do i get gear though. isnt moons step 1? lol
DIP fairy code, sorry for giving the wrong one earlier
im a melee build and i didnt even touch moons until i was damn near my 3rd zone unlock lol you really dont need the stuff there
i did barrows naked
I thought i knew it off the top of my head
kill the naguas for double hitting weapons that are better than rune weapons
yeah i did barrows with a staff naked and mixed hide sulfers for ahrim and karil
yeah i should have unlocked Morytania ): I might just need to make a new account TBH
what are you zones?
i have sulphur blades and temotli
its not my damage thats the probelm. its that i get hit for 20 every global lol
there's no gearing guides on youtube either lol. just which pacts you should take
every guide they all have moons gear to start lol
what do you even need the gear for?
yeah moons hit hard for typeless damage, im at t7 and still not confident killing them rn, even tho i did all the combat achievements there on my main
moons lol
you dont need moons gear to do moons lol
tried moon before nerf with magic, left after i got one kill, because i got a unique anyway
never came back, yet...
have u tried killing regular amox? drops rune armour often
youre doing ranged you said? Outside of that zone
does anyone here have any gear? maybe im asking peopel that are also like me running around naked LOL
what's the point of amulet of avarice exist?
im just gonna try with Adamant gear. hopefully that's enough.
boosts drop rate of reve totems i think. but skulls u the entire time
you dont even need barrows
as wind mage should i take fremnik for dragonbone necklace orrrrr zeah for devout boots (final area)
you don't have any resets?
absolute trash for league then
i dont need barrows but no one has said how to get gear LOL
i told you how and you said na ill mine for worse gear instead
what gear do u need
mixed hide is worse than addy though T.T
well, one person did
mixed hide can do tombs of amascut brother
i dont have that region either ):
im saying its cracked
what regions do u have
buy it or make it
Only way to get anti-venom is from zulrah scales isn't it?
maybe im playing wrong and im supposed to be doing tasks to unlocke regions before doing moons
focus on zones and relic unlocks then come back to combat later
I have Kourend
and skill levels
i just dont understand what leveling all my skills is going to do to help me get gear
Means you have a pending selection at chaeldar
smithing
i just did a task with him
yeah 99 smithing and mining might be the play to make rune
just didnt think everyone was doing tha
better than to use steel
figured there was an easier way
for now go buy addy at the shop
im just going to use addy or hope that works lol.
bro? u can get rune armour from drops commonly. go kill amox
or do clues
hmm, moons gear is... very rare
amox drops rune plate legs i believe
like what you already said but they ignored it
i didnt know she dropped rune!!! wait this is the advise i was looking for.
LOL
lighting logs with a bow wont complete
how do I get to vardorvis? dont have kourend
im angry
finally some good advice. ty T.T lol
i said it like 3x u didnt read
you dont craft gear with smithing, its a dead skill since basically 2001
i mean you can, but lets be reasonable
i think wave 1 of doom can drop dragon med helm as well lol
can i turn off the cutscene for GGs?
catch implings, get mystic, there is tons of ways to get random gear, i thought they were trolling
League Navigator at Quetzacalli Gorge can take you to The Stranglewood
magpie imps can give rune sq shield, spectres in kourend dungeon can give rune full helm. my log says amox gave me a rune platebody as well, but that may have been echo
he just lacks general game knowledge + varlamore is a new region
"99 in all combat skills but still using steel"
just sat at gem crab for 1 week lmao?
i praise the eye to exist
the crab has done irreperable damage to starting players
u got max cmb players with no game knowledge now cuz of crab
I beleive it is a larger problem than just this game
new generation/games requiring wikis to play, people want to play without being backseated
the meta is to do things as fast as possible with as much handholding as possible now
some people like being told what to do
we have the best wiki ever made thank god
Whats the best thing to do with soul shards? i have tons i havent used
theres only 2 things u can do... prayer or rc
get rc to 99 in 1 tree run so you never have to think about it again
Ty halo how do i do rc with them?
click the altar
Thank you
depends on regions though, some altars need a talisman
this guy unlocked soul harvest without knowing what it does, so theres another example
I have mort kandarin and tirrwn
Probably best to go to the Ourania Altar then, since you won't need a talisman for that.
thank you
yeah go to ourania and get a billion runes and max rc in a second
thank you
I wonder if its better dps to zaryte crossbow special for guaranteed +32% damage and have no chance of echo hits or use armadyl crossbow spec with chance of spawning echo hits 
how would dummy in poh give me any indication on dps when i already guarantee max hit anyway 
personally, echoes are my dopamine generator
I will probably just use acb specs until they fix zcb spec to spawn echo hits from ammo regen
reloaded into larc. solved my clue problem, help w/ farming, gets me a lot of coin. worth it imo
probably the right play. assuming it gets addressed
do i have to melee dusk in the final phase?
Like regular GG?
yeah
I do
after i kill the floating one
Pray mage and beat his butt
glad this league let me do final dawn quest again. super fun
it boosted me to 67 rc from like 56 so ill take it
same
otherwise that SOTF token was staying in my inventory forever
The addy gear was enough! got my first kill on Blue Moon 🥲
Plan what you will choose in Leagues VI using our Demonic Pacts tree.
thats the easy one
gl on eclipse/blood
im not gonna try blood lol
he'll just lifesteal
i mostly wanted eclipse since im ranged spec for the gear
which type of ranged are you going
ok well if u dont kill eclipse u dont get his gear in the chest
Does this also work for regular CG
and if ur skipping blood then ur drop rate gets way lower
if crossbows i have bad news to share about what gear/skill you should prioritize instead.
just bowe
he spent all that time getting max stats at gem crab but didnt think or strategize about his pacts/regions 🙁
drop rate doesnt technically change if you go without moon
i went Koyurend to fight Hespori
without blood moon*
it does
the overall drop chance for any moons gear goes down, doesnt it
his chance to get eclipse does not change 1 iota
you get less rolls
you get less rolls on the junk items
false
ive got larceny and mory, kandarin, wilderness what do you all think would be the best way to make raw gp?
ive obv allready picked a starter relic lol
visage drop boosted?
you get same rolls for everything, rolling uniques discards secondary loot items
your chance of getting A MOONS ITEM is increased by killing more moons, your chances of getting a specific item is not changed. Dont spread misinfo.
isnt that whati said? your overall chance of a moon unique gets worse by skipping bosses
he doesnt gaf about the other sets he wants eclipse
he doesnt need to kill blood moon to see more eclipse
right, but his overall chances of rolling eclipse is way less likely than if he killed all 3
ty
"Equip a leaf-bladed sword, leaf-bladed battleaxe, or leaf-bladed spear in Tirannwn." 80 points and you can buy the spear from a slayer master at shilo village or at zanaris for 31k but only 30.6% of players have done this task.
IS the 30.6% of all who has tyrannwn unlocked or all leagues players?
30.6% of all players using the rs wiki plugin that shares that info
oh okay
so all players, that has plugin i would assume
since it needs to know how many has not
yea. i can disable the plugin and do my tasks as usual, but rs wiki wont see it so it wont count for the %
it is a easy task to do
i was just wondering about the %
it does help to find easy tasks to complete
oh my god 5th bandis robe top dupe from easy clues
and where a lot of people are gettign easy points
if u sort by % completion yea you can tell which tasks are easy
any recomnded gold methods for larceny i may not of thought of? currently stealing from gem stalls to sell to the gem merchant in aldaran
High points and high completion = easy points
except for the 99 thieving, that is jsut all the larcenist players
getting auto 99
how do i know where shooting stars are?
tir or mory is like 1m per bathroom break from pickpocketing if you have either
in leagues
you can build a telescope
in your house
and scout
1mil wont exactly cut it im trying to basicly buy 200mil fletching lol
go take 200 shits
is there no discord?
there is also like groups forming to say where shooting stars are appearing in game to help people
or fc
wouldn't know one or want to advertise one
not on this server
dont know thatd work iether lol
google it for fc
lol
just did the math id need around 400ish million to do my plan
google it, go to one, check the box for leagues servers
anyone know if you can break oathplate without asgarnia
or do it the real way and build a telescope
that is why it is in the game
Fallen Stars/Shooting Stars tracker for OSRS - track active stars, upcoming stars and dropped stars! - OldSchool RuneScape calculators
omg first gold ring at 322 kc
next youre gonna tell me to carry around a compass to solve clues
🥺
sexkant and chart?
i dont think these drop anything else
yes
ty
do them by hand
inspect your internet packets by hand and assemble them in order
and decode the bits
i put in my hours back in the day, never again
brimstone key with konar maybe? but yeah
I used to use the sexkant and chart to find locations
I'm struggling to get the DHW
now i kinda just know whereabouts coords are ontop of my head
I've been at this for a couple days now
are you going for dragon cup?
i bet you can use the kandarin observatory to look for shooting stars
I am
but nobody goes there anymore
runlite ruined that place
took them out of business
jk, it's better now imo
I want DHW to fight echo KBD with but my damage is too low to get the uniques in a mass
And solo is so slow'
can someone buy a rope in a film or tv show and not use it to lynch themselves!?
time to respec into blindbag + ranged echoes and have 5 boppers for huey 
does this mean i need to hit 60 kc to guarantee it?
Yeah pretty sure so
does regenerate work on a ring of recoil? what about a ring of suffering? both?
no
lord i wish it did lol id never turn mine off
Can thorns mage do vardovis fairly easily?
anyone else d'/c
im a shit player and ive been doing it, its abit slow but it works
gear?
whats the best way to get herb seeds?
depends on ur relics ig
endless harvest, friendly forager, evil eye and transmute
master farmers or solo/trio huey with transmute, hunter with huntsman
What's the most painless way to make rings of recoil for Suffering charges? The old fashioned way?
if you have zeah can transmute tree seeds into spirit tree seeds and turn those in for hard seed packs
pickpocket master farmers then transmute the seeds up
idk why i thought u said larceny. still tho, proly decent? i forget herb seed rate on farmers
basicly just ahsrim with malediciton and the echo staff
oh yeha im not even close to that lol. ive got mystics and warped still. kinda stuck because i dont wanna grind cg
fun fact the fletching knife counts as an offhand for when you want to proc the 2 hp/prayer but not thorns from a shield
didnt have any other offhand slol
Antler Guard
oh ya that exists
hell i can even chin them
glad you have atleast 2 functioning braincells to make up for my none
I got back to back Custodia tasks before slayer relic 😩
though who can even assign custodia tasks?
Zanaris
Nieve
And maybe someone can correct me but I believe every Slayer Master shares the same pool of monsters anyway
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dinh's_blazing_bulwark wait this is cool
Dinh's blazing bulwark is a Dinh's bulwark with a Trailblazer reloaded bulwark ornament kit added onto it. The kit gives no additional bonuses, and is only used to add aesthetics to the bulwark.
Whilst in its ornamented state, the item can be reverted anytime, returning the bulwark and kit.
The bulwark resembles the Ancestral Glyph found within ...
can you still get that this league?
i found out its existence because of https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Unbound_JalTok-Jad
Unbound JalTok-Jad is a monster which can only be found within TzHaar-Ket-Rak's Challenges during Leagues. After completing his sixth challenge, on top of unlocking his infinite challenge, the League-only Challenge is unlocked. In this challenge, the JalTok-Jad are replaced with the Unbound JalTok-Jad. Like the previous challenges, the player is...
why godsword not in the smithing menu for 80 smithing? broken game. or im blind and its somewhere else
was wondering if you could get it during the league since it's a trailblazer reloaded item
this was changed
not in the league
figured lol
also theres no way to do knight's sword still right? no way to bypass talking to reldo?
since the "character" is no the one who can get it
your leagues character can not buy old leagues rewards
does a dharok axe 0 blindbag?
Hello, I have a BIG problem, I have an active slayer task of which I have no access to that monster. This is my first slayer task and I can't skip it
The Monster: Ice warrior.
The heart of darkness quest: not completed due to needing 48 slayer
Unlocked regions: Morytania, Varlamore, Karamja
I didn't think it was possible to be assigned a slayer task that you don't have access to so I'm very confused. Anyone have a solution to this so I can grind slayer like a normal person?
whats the fastest mining exp without tick manipulation??
iron ore
Karm?
iron for all but barb
someone said gem rocks at shilo village with charged glory earlier too
barb is best to do amethyst or rune
what does karm mean?
Nah I'm dumb, they are in the ruins, Twilight Temple
On surface? or what do you mean
without asgarnia both are bad since runite ore takes too long to respawn without expert mining gloves
could always be a bug
yeah but dont u need to beat the quest he said to get in there
Yeah but I tried go down but it doesn't work, I think you get access after the quest no?
You need to start the quest up until the amox fight
I've had decent mining exp rates with the bone fragments in...I forget what it's called, the Dwarf city in Varlamore.
can he start it without a slayer level though
You don't technically need to finish the quest
I tried starting the quest but it wouldn't start without 48 slayer
Have you tried just going to the ruins and see if it lets you in?
And that is weird
are there any other entrances to it
how did u get an ice warriors task? chaelar doesnt assign them
From the morytania slayermaster
ah wiki says not accessible
the only other place for them is asgarnia/wildy so do u have either of those?
There are 2 entrances what I can see, tower of ascension and the one to the east but can't access neither
nope
Seems other people in chat history have had the same problem with no solution
you probably need to talk to a jmod in this case? maybe check if its on the known issues list
Actual softlock?
Only have karamja, varlamore and mory
then its a bug
would need to wait for jagex to fix that task. With morytania you could technically lvl slayer from temple trecking xp rewards and karamja easy diary lamp if you havent already used that
what value do you all keep your minion at for auto looting
how big is the bonus exp on a boss task?
am doign a 200 kraken boss task and get all things after 140 kills
i am tempted to end it now instead of doing 60 more kills, but dont know how much exp i miss
75 easy clues done
+5k (before multiplier)slayer xp regardless how many bosses you took
i dont see it on the known issues list on the wiki
theres a task for leagues needing like 300 kraken kills
i know but it would take ages doing trekking
mhhh ok thats not worth it thenXD
you sure? i am not seeing it
there is a CA that wants 100 kills
How do I contact a Jmod or whatever to get this to their attention then? anyone know? im sorry a bit of a noob here :D
there is a 300 kill one i did it today
0 luck this morning
fix me if i'm wrong but do i instantly get dhl from hydra if the claw drop?
i dont know... sometimes i see people ping to ask questions but i dont know if thats the right way
found it ty
Can submit a ticket on official website bro
drops as lance
btw getting 10 kraken tentacles is a absolute meme right?
cool
that droprate looks terrible
but i never kill hydra before
i got half of it at least from 300 kills xd
I feel like they would answer in a month XD, you know if there is a faster way or is that the only way to contact them?
but it's still easy pact im gonna do that later
I don't know, I've emailed them before and they respond quickly too
Their support is pretty solid
idk what im doing wrong
Really need someone with a following to @ them on socials
i cant get the firemaking barb training to work
woo i got a dragonplate skirt! 1/512
Does auto retalliate on mage seem to not work sometimes for y'all? Like I logged in and a kalphite soldier was attacking me and I didn't attack, I left clicked and it was fine, I had runes, I had auto cast enabled, all that
Auto retal is also on
working for me, these dragons attack me and i shoot water in they face
Correct spell book?
Yeah, it all seems like it should be working. It happened yesterday too when i went to afk, I wish I clipped it but my buddies were watching me and said on like the 7th kill for KQ I just stopped attacking
or if its a charge wand make sure its charged
do u have transmuation on? i find it weirdly interrupts stuff like that sometimes
its the blue moon spear, got 10k wraths and full water/airs
like it interrupts talking to a falconer (very random), and some other random lil bits here and there
nah just logged in so transmute wasn't even running, yesterday however it was running
Ohhhh thats cool
Try changing staffs?
It's very random if it will do it or not, it usually does when I go afk tho lol
What's the best way to level herblore? I need to get to the point of making antifires
see if its just that one or if its all of them for you
it got me a few times on the water staff too, which makes me think it's not just the blue moon staff
Currently sitting at like 57 but barely any herbs lol
ah fiddle sticks
The only thing I can think of is my range was odd maybe?
Didn't go that herb relic?
For when you skill you get an herb at the same time
hmmmmm what about pacts? which ones you got?
Are there dragons that never lose aggro
nope
going water tank mage
damn echo GG was easy
show me your tree, see if you have anything i dont have
so far
Haven't built out tank yet
I'd probs say bossing if you can do any bosses. either that or farming, chaos druids if you have kandarin, misc if you have fremmy?
None of that should have affected it
Wintertodt would give you some herbs too I think
Cool maybe I can try chaos druids then
i imagine you get more runes than you use xD
If u have zeah
oh 100% lol I'm at like 200k waters rn in the inv and like 30k airs + my full rune pouch
you do get more than you use honestly its kinda nutty
and a pain at points as your inv ends up full of runes alot of the time
is mixology a good way to level herb?
I never did it tbh, not sure
How do i melee echo smokedevil?
sword to the face? or are they resistant?
bluetooth halberd works i guess
but how do i got to his circles in time?
bigger number means less defence?
no
Circles are only 50% less dmg if you'reo n prayer, do you have enough sustain to keep you up?
How do i get the Ivandis Flail for sins of the father?
not even with water spells. he do 30 dmg 3 times if not pray and in circle
ah okay it was some complicated thing that i dont know about xD
ehh I was doing it w/ water spells yesterday, he only got me b/c I was off prayer once during the enrage phase
Can you claim from Yama lair
yeah but with 800 magic def it take forver
should i be killing the harder wildy bosses for voidwaker?
Not that I can see, I did check the tutor and there wasn't an option
Idk how fast it is w/ other combat skills but my kills are usually like 4-5 rotations. Not too bad for me
Then in burg d rot under the place next to bank? Can talk to dude…iirc
800 magic def doesnt mean much since it's magic lvl is only 15
I’m trying to figure out how to kill doom…I don’t have any demonbane and didn’t grimorie
Can eat up after every shield blast but that only sustained for like 5 waves if I’m lucky
There isn't anyone there until after the quest
have to create the flail again yourself. can either follow steps on wiki or watch guide on youtube
You can't make a chain as it's a sailing item and its locked
And im area locked for a sickle mould
Pretty sure you can get chain from guys in darkmeyere
what do you mean sailing item? the flail has been in game for multiple years before sailing came out
are there any easy/buyable food sources in varla/karamja?
I have tried to make the chain and thas the message i get
food shop in brimhaven
Bananas
Legend.
any tips on echo cerberus? im really struggling
have eternal sustenance 
lol
but fr like, do you count attacks?
Wildy crab? What's that?
dark crab fishing
dope
1 down 3 more to go
Ah yeah I was thinking like the gem crab but in wilderness lol
quick, go pk him 
come and fear my flask
this thing actually 1 shot
makes pkers looks dumb
someone did try to kill me earlier so i flask him 
Oh damn
need around 900 kills if you want to point max
or maybe normal krakens are better for that need to check
nvm normal has x3 the droprate
"show me you are a worthy fisher"
I kill other moons much faster than blood. If I'm going for blood only drops, should I do all 3 or just blood?
does anyone know why the wiki detects my first region but not my 2nd? tried a bunch of different things to fix it
hellpuppy 131kc lol
on leagues?
main
Did you select the setting at the top? There's like an orange button to manually select your regions
ah I forgot about that ty. is there a way to update this automatically?
The wiki detects your tasks completed but idk if by default detects regions synced with runelite
i dont think the wiki sync anything ngl
it does :P
Maybe wiki sync plugin helps with that
Could be that it has something built in for leagues
your best bet is to just do 3 of them again and again it's possible to gain 2 pieces on 1 chest too
once you have the full set of specific moon you can skip that
Can a wrath rune be obtained in Varlamore/Karamja without transmute?
Wiki sync is a different plugin? I forgot
No. Not enough regions
also there's tasks that tells you to wear every moon armor set
So assuming no transmute, you need kand and 95 rc?
could probably read the code on github
Kandarin with rc but you can get it as a drop with Zeah or Fremennik
nope, unless its 3rd party
I don't think there's a region combination locking you out of wrath runes
"WikiSync is a RuneLite and HDOS plugin that uploads your Old School RuneScape character's quest completion, Achievement Diary task completion, skill levels, and Leagues task status to a server run by the Old School RuneScape Wiki. This data is then used by various articles on the wiki in order to personalise the content for your character, including on quest requirement displays and the League tasks pages for completion percentages. In the future, this may extend to other use cases."
Interesting. Was thinking of going zeah after kand, but thats a long time to wait for surge spells :/
Nah Im just trying to figure out how fast I can there
the code for wiki sync is on github
Yeah transmute for wraths
I think there's a 3rd party one
Yeah but I only need 1 rune, then regen will sustain me, and butler solves a ton of skills for me passively, where transmute solves magic, which is my main combat style and will be passively gotten through combat anyway?
I dont really see the appeal in transmute
50 kc on Echo Amox, no Echo weapon 🙁
transmute solves like all crafting skills too :P
transmute solves crafting, fletching, firemaking, cooking, smithing, farming, herblore
how does it solve smithing?
If you want to spend time doing them all, it solves tiers, sure. But butler is 100% passive. Transmute doesnt "solve" those skills, it makes gathering for them marginally easier. You still spend hours at an anvil, or gem cutting, or potion making. Butler lets you skip all that crap
still need to smith per hand
with rune platebods thats 375 exp base
thats a LOT of crfting till 50 mil
herblore it only gives seeds so need to grow them
make them into potions
and get secondarys yourself
i mean yeah you have to play the game yourself lmao
?
yes it does
Go read it again my dude
is there something wrong with doom drops? havent had a drop in over 230 delves and generally pretty bad droprate
You slept on free gains
its 20 days with butler for 50 mil hebrlore exp
(only making ifrit potions)
5 skills made 0time
99 crafting from 0xp in like 72h, and you dont even need to be logged in
if you arent going for 50 mil
transmute is a very solid choice for all of these skills
but transmute does not solve herblore
always having the right herbs through endless perfect seeds sure helps
Transmute would just make me sink like 10-15x time into skilling, just so I can transmute a single wrath rune to sustain forever on regen.
Thats an insane tradeoff
ngl going for all 50mils sounds crazy
it is
but thats what people mean when they say "relic solves skill x"
Butler gives millions of herb xp a day and you dont ever have to engage with the skill
doesnt sound very fun to me
Its by far the best choice for herb. The others Im not so sure about, transmute is still a powerful option, but for herb alone, butler is always the play
1 million per day just from butler without any making of potions
i do think the herblore relic is SUPER bad in general
they should have combined the farming and herblore relic for sure
How many millions?
Then dont pick it, do slower and more fun. Im just pointing out that the guy who said trans was better than butler for herb is flat wrong
1.1 million from butler every 24 hours
- the unfinished potions you can make into potions,
huh what does that mean?
cannot kill things inside that dungeon without slayer task
Havent done the exact math and im too adhd to let it build for more than like 12h, but the missus left hers for around 20-24h, claimed it a while ago, and got like 1.15M
point maxers calced:
20 days of butler and making all the potion that requires only eye of newt = 50 mil exp
Ohhhhhh
so no waiting on potions being made?
Nope. You claim unf pots
And get the xp when you claim
but they are unfinished
oh
Tell butler to make unf pots
Fuck around
Ring bell
Get xp
Repeat 2-4 until desired level
20 days makes it so butler fives 22 million herblore exp
and the other 28 million you make with eye of newt you buy from a shop
Its at least 1Mxp/day
More, but i cba with maths, missus got 7 digit xp drop in 1day, good enough for me
what I picked
to be fair the other modes are much worse
it gives a bit of smithing exp, but not enough
ore, wood, planks, fish are all useless as you can easily get them yourself
10k bowstrings is nice for 1 task
i guess cooked food is a nice qol if you dont have hotfoot
oh damn
i have tyr so crystal is my way to 50 mil
whats your goal?
just to play till i get bored
i just want the visage... is there other dragons that drops it so i can afk? Area unlocks are Kandarin,Mortania and prif
Either way, almost 0 chance i take transmute when I can skip like half of the skilling grinds and just pvm
i do think if you only want dragon trophy eternal sustenance is nice
allows you to run builds that dont heal you and is hella convenient
Black drags do, but its 1/2k i think
Hey guys, is there a guide for the fight caves in the current leagues? I have never done this in osrs before
atm it is to get points
ah yeah then i think you choose really well, only "mistake" i see is no endless harvest
but abundance has its own benefits
no mistake
So this limits me on getting wrath runes, which hurts a bit since I wanna go water mage/thorns/1h blindbag
I don't regret it one bit
How many tasks is it to get to 4th region? Or 2nd "real" region
i need about 2500 bones for 50m prayer, any bones are fine since i can transmute them. Any idea where would be the best place to 'farm' them? i've been killing chickens in ortus farm ( quetzal to hunterguild) then teleport to bank and back.
ok XD i love my endless harvest just way to much and i have a gp solve from my region
you have minion? then probably any multicombat zone during slayer
wait does minion pick up bones
can you still get minion?XD
Yes, if it's not restricted by value
i was hoping hunter, but the bones dont get banked
im on the bottle, a true addict
i have 95 str and 100% run energy and yet still dropping the first barrel repeatedly in warriors guild what is this 😭
a skill issue!
Oof the zeah solve for wrsth runes is Yama
dont like half the pact buffs not work on him? Or is that the relics?
amox echo took me like 50 kills for full complete, and now i get both echo items from thermy in 8kc 😭
then its the same but you need to pick them up, so you will need a good banking route
i think im misunderstanding how it works
relics
hunter rumour, perilous moons, even vale totem gives the shards
also you forgot calcified rocks exist so everything isn't about bone
if i wanna stay at thermy for occult necklace, should i kill the mobs outside or just kill regular thermy? i have both echo items now
nope, just keep banging you head against it untill it works 🙂
you have Kandarin?
Atm no, I havent taken any regions, but my plan was Kandarin, Zeah, Desert (i want toa), so getting echo thermy stuff, then over to zeah for cox and yama, then finally into the sand casino
kandarin you relly want at 87 slayer spam kraken
there are 3 pact points in kraken and multiple gear upgrades (whip and trident)
this barrel thing sucks reeeee
There’s like 5 big bones that spawn on aldarin if you want to run in circles picking them up and transmute to dag bones
Yeah ik. Ill get those along the grind to 93 for thermy
btw kraken is great af if you have any mage pact pointsXD
turn of run, i dont know if that does anything, but i did it and got it in like 7 or 8 attemts
im getting a super str too and gona do that ty
My big concern atm is just echo amox. All the stuff I can find online say to go blindbag, but I dont wanna do a shitty blindbag just for a scuffed echo amox weapon then waste a respec. Trying to figure out if I can get away with a thorn/mage setup using only pacts from varla and karamja
i do like 1 min 30 kills with water mage (no thorns) on echo amox
I heard magic didnt hit well?
they buffed it
i did the slayer grind 60-93 today after taking kandarin with culling spree for thermy echo items
Significantly?
blindbag is ok, what are you looking for exactly?
jsut a way to kill amox ?
or the ebst build?
bro
Even if mage hits bad, you can just kill her with glacial temotli
drank super str, waiting for 100 run, turning run off, using piety and i keep failing on like 2nd barrel lmao
You do NOT need pacts
does this mean ANY off-hand including 1handed shields
Echo Amoxliatl
Ranged defence reduced to 40 from 200 Magic defence reduced to 20 from 200
Just wanna get the echo boppers for the pact point, and find a way to do it with either water magic or thorns, since ill be down those trees later. Apparently her defence was tanked so this might not be the issue Im expecting it to be 
I saw someone mentioning blood runes in Zeah doesn't work, any merit to that?
yes
XOWN 160???? Youre shitting me
echo amox is SUPER easy with thorns
yesssss i did it
Guess I just send water mage to make firecape easier then go for some thorns
Ohhhhhhhh
btw if you go thorns i can strongly recommend checking out faux build,
its insane and from my point of view probably the best build of the league
The big downside of thorns is it kinda struggles to compete in a raid like ToA
but yeah real reason why i wrote in here:
i am considering dropping all 4 range nodes and going into water mastery and 25% prayer pen for 100% pen
is that stupid?
I get like 1/2 to 2/3rds of the damage of my friend with a kbd cb
Its me! me fr fr
Think I saw a video talking about this. Ill be doing something similar, but grabbing water mage and some basic blindbag at the end
Good thing Im not competing for top dps in my solo raids 
It applies to solo too, he'd do raids way quicker solo than I would with thorns solo
2 more slayer levels to go
If you worry about raids/h, you skip so much fun
I worry about how quickly I can get some great gear
So much silly stuff to do, worry about efficiency in a gamemode that doesnt wipe in 6weeks
Purps are like 1/5 in leagues, the gear comes fast no matter what build you run
Unless youre dying 5 times a raid, there should be plenty of points to get insane purple rates
i need to actually survivor and manage bosses for pact points
who's I need to speak too so I can get anchor?
Your edit of faux's tree is basically what im doing, except im going blindbag instead of light weapons with my thorns, and Im preferring spellcasting over charged staff
Spell casting! i dont like the charged weapons
When is best to do the clues I have built up? Before I pick my first area so just var and karam or is it best with more areas? I dont have the clue relic
You want to do them asap i would think
so they is less chance of being sent across the map
Is Echo Hunleff definitely 5x drop for the enhance?
Echo bosses have the same common loot as their regular variant
The 5x rate is a passive league multiplier
I dont remember what tier gives it tho
Sad
Ah kk,just getting fucked then 😄
whats the closest fairy ring you can use bank bag to get too
Echo and corrupt have the same rate, but I assume echo lets you skip the setup?
expect around 100 cg/echo clears to get it
lol
What regions?
im 301
at least echo hun fight is fast
im expecting 500 at this point
karamja, valamore, mortania, asgarnia
Theres a fairy ring close to the bank in auburnvale. Idk if closest tho
yeah pb is 55 seconds atm,but im pretty over it at this point lol
Idk about the other regions but there's a fairy ring in tzhaar
yeah ive been using that one just curious if there was a better one
One in aldarin
trying to fully clear a dense jungle but keep getting gout tubers wth. got like 5/5 so far
ngl wish I had access to death or choas runes for the easy rune to tokkul grind
Is it possible to use frog token somewhere?
cam torum shop is available minute 1
I can't do the penguin task for frem. Is it just chins and I suck?
yeah but thats for gold
Yeah NW of aldarin bank should be closer
ohhhhhhhh youre right
wow echo thermy is so much easier when you stop switching prayer and just camp one lol
do these reduce stats?
do they buy nature runes i cant remember
not if you have nose peg
they do
or slayer helm
i took the shortcut and ran pass them to the hellhounds
or slayer relic
and was confused why my stats was in the trash
hmmmm nature runes or sunfire into gold then into tokkul
hmmmm

sins of the father pipeline into vyre pickpocketing
You have transmutation?
nah
Rip
im picking Reloaded for my next relic but im going with culling
it was a hard choice between culling and transmutation ngl
I wish the whole echo amox fight was just the final phase. That sweet 1t mage attack is so good lol
died 20 times to him last night and got the weapon at 10kc

is there a crossbow build that tanks?
isnt it just the thorns range build
idk
Any where you have a shield lmao
zcb thorn build yeah
damn nice lol. it took me about 2-3 tries to get it down right, didn't understand the attack cadence, but now i'm cruisin
i got the weapon on 2kc but it's also because i died at the same time
then i do a whole 60kc for the most useless boppers of all league
devils element, shadowflame staff and occult necklace all in one hour hoooolyyy
i feel melee got the shaft this league tbh
Nex solo being 400 is kinda funny but I guess there's not a lot to do in Asgarnia
only four 400 pointers in asgarnia. kinda rough
could be worse though. zeah only has 1 lol
I have 38 items from barrows in 85 chests and only one set 😭 holy dups.
zeah has a lot to do that's the cost of all 400 pointers
mhhh this seems wrong
i dropped acuracy nodes for the right build but it deals almost the same damage as the left one
and i trigger more healing from water runes and have water mastery
yeah zeah is probably one of the strongest regions
Right? I can solo nex in like 8mins lol
213 Zulrah kills 2 Tanzanite fangs 5(five) Serpentine visage 1 onyx 0 tridents
Oof
can you show build?
https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=BrokenIslesGallon build 5 and 6
23:10 jad run on mobile
thx
Lol
1t trident is insanely strong. water builds just dont have crazy dps
the minion consumes zammy items its perminantly upgraded by them right? not each time you summon
Jad died so fast I couldn't get the tank a hit CA to trigger
He only got off like 3 hits
but they do (with the echo staff) XD check my dps calc i am jsut comparing it
they really don't
like look at this
left is swamp trident
right is quadr
i dont know why
technicly right build wastes 1 point into pstaff speedup
ah against low def enemys pstaff gets much better
Although something else still seems off.
was against grarrdor
Oh. Could you plug in crystal+blessing for the left?
new picture is against gemstone
the reason is just dps calcs lol
ah yeah much better lol
you have a 1t weapon that can do more damage in 3 ticks than your 3 tick weapons max
and there's also the 10 magic lvl boost from rune regn that also boosts tridents max by another 3 max hits ish
Let's see it
double dps against gemstone crab
I need to get more demonics kills done
Need 1 more enh seed
And still need bp and serp from zulrah
so anyways cant go fully into water spells then
but my original plan still works
- main dps pstaff with crystal armor
- sithc to quadrant for emergency heals
- whip for mellee if needed
I need to get the other CAs done still
Uhhh I think I saw early math at like 6?
Well, for minion
Idk about actual thralls
meant the spellbook one
Yeah idk
0.6
with pstaff i could switch spellbook i have kourend
No reason not to
yeah but that isnt in the dps calc^^
does anyone have the template for this kbd thorns build?
water mage isnt for dps, its for sustain anyway
@tropic mantle I tanked like 3-4 jad hits on that run, he never hit me. And then he died
Lame
yeah my idea was i stay pstaff and switch to water for emergency heals
makes the pstaff build "only" 4 skillpoints weaker for that investment
Echo amox trolled me so hard lol. Dropped the regular temolti instead of the echo one 🙁
anyone had a dragon hunter lance drop?
No zeah
also i jsut realized how insane % magic damage is
really need to lookf for that on gear
is this the imfamous lazy build that can tank whole content?
give me the detail i'll do it as last resort if i find some challenge is ttoo hard for me to clear
What good boots and gloves can I get in the two beginner areas?
1 more slayer level then i can attempt some pact points
you wear half mage half def gear in mage mode: tridwent or better pstaff (like echo pstaff)
in mellee mode you go full tank and use toxic whip
mixed hide work at the start you can get avernic
Combat bracelet and mixed hide
if you have transmutation you can turn iron into runite and sell for tokkul to get onyx
a big part of the damage comes from the thorns which isnt in the dps calc
pstaff will heal you a metric ton, prayer is solved with the top node
for dnagerous situations a blood fury helps a LOT
the heck i dont have trident or anything
what are your regions?
probably thammaroc scepter from wildy
zeah wildy desert
Unfortunately I dont have transmutation or any dragonstone yet so will probably just be mixed hide. Thanks for your help!
but hey
the catharsis over this moment after grinding shards for so long https://i.imgur.com/Ag7dmhA.png
hear me out
ah okXD then yeah probably bbc and tumekens at endgame?
yeah ayak is also insane
389 hydra no lance, feeling mighty dry
the build is really focused on the early game so 5-25 points
i think tumekens and yyou jsut grab all the % magic nodes is probably the best

it is both thats the beauty of it
i only have 2 reset
whats your build right now?
9 zulrah uniques no trident (1 - (1-1/4)^9) = 92.5 percent chance of having gotten at least one
but yeah i sadly have no specific idea for your regions
whats the zeah weapon again?
anyone else strugglign with echo hunllef
i did until i didnt
I think its the worst echo boss
yeah not touching that till 75% pen
focus on living over dps for first few kills
no real change in how you fight the boss its just more to deal with which makes it impossibly hard to do unless you're already sweaty
other bosses a tleast have added mechanics
you have to spec in the beginning
if I wanted to sweat out a boss like this I would just play normal osrs
amox doesn't
what
it kind of does
just attack and move, same as normal amox
echo amox has so much new shit
its a really well made boss
i did no pen with charge staff, its not to bad
yeah and so is the regular one
zero CG completes in main
but the difficulty is probably too lwo to appreciate that for most people
in 389 trials at a 1/200 chance for a lance you have a 85.75% chance og having a lance
about this
x'D
- its a different rhytm
- it speeds up
- final phase is a whole new mechanic we never had before allowing isntant revange attacks on succesful dodges
In total this leads to a fun boss fight that feels like a intense dance to the death and is really fun
like yeah this solves basicly everything but prayerXD
ok 
ok im kinda new to runescape - im doing the barbarian training mini quest and it says to get and burn chewed bones... so im killing mithril dragons in the cave under the lake like it says and im 130 kills in and no chewed bones... am i doing something wrong?
Anyone do the 10k bow strings task?
are there drypipe builds out there? not sure what the usecase of that is when you als habe bbc
guaranteed at 60, keep going
nope, RNG just doesnt like you
prayer pot is free i got over 150 super restore from callisto
ok i was worried i messed something up and the drop wasnt available for me or something
dude told me to hill 699
like i didnt unlock the drop
flask also fix prayer
how do u do the kill 5 spinners achievement? u cant solo pest control right and kill credit keeps getting deleted cuz we all ironmen
then the question is where to go now?
go tribrid? commit more to accuracy and jsut kill everything with cbow?
but i guess it just sucks to be me :((
also i am a really big fan of these 2 nodes
for all rnaged builds
have to get lucky to find one alone and solo it before anybody else touches it
that sucks... :S
i think i go full thorns edge then the rest go to the other overheal stat
got dragon sheild left half tho.... 
thorns requires wearing a shield
so no thorns + bbc
also was worrying about soul harvest eating the chewed bones - any info on that?
i have my harvest turned off just in case
but i want to put it back on if i can confirm its safe
What is the bbc?
it's for my water mage
95.4% chance for you to have at least one bone by now
i can actually withstand olm but i need the thorns to help me with damage output
congradulations you win bad luck
Once we get 40 points. I wish they would give us unlimited pact resets to mess around
big up merlin, making me continue my grind by saying im close
if i could post a picture i would show u how unlucky i am
water mage is much worse without quadr
and you have the bbc
Am I crazy for doing the 10k bow strings task without butler? Lol
Pretty big time sink for just 200 pts