🤔｜theories

[vague imp]

I think it me actually

As I said earlier I DMd amy the link of the theory

[uneven flicker]

oh

So it was you? not me?

[vague imp]

Yeah

[uneven flicker]

aha now I get it ❤️

[hasty quarry]

Not a problem people.

[vague imp]

...

[hasty quarry]

oh hahaa... 😄 OOPS.

[vague imp]

XD

[hasty quarry]

Not a huge problem, that is what I am here for, to retreive messages.

[hasty quarry]

1 - c soul
2 - hell or demons
3 - animals
4 - demigods
5 - human
6 - gods
@azure bay Even if the fish, and parrot, with bugs and moths did connect somehow. Where would it all tie up with the demigods?

[hasty quarry]

these are the stages of life
@crystal verge Explain the circle graph?

[vague imp]

That's the cycle in theatre i presume

[hasty quarry]

I thought it was in Cave, was talking about that picture.

[vague imp]

It is also in the cave

[hasty quarry]

Ah..

[vague imp]

It is shown in the cave but is the play in theatre

Was first shown in theatre

[hasty quarry]

Ah... my memory is kind of slipping sometimes.

[hasty quarry]

https://discordapp.com/channels/319613669438914560/357141008875651072/669627261045178428

[vague imp]

Yeah that's the stage of life

There is something called a samsara wheel

The question mark is something shady
But i think it is the full elixir

The crow represents the animal human hybrids
Corrupted souls are souls
The forest idk what it is
The fish are the animals
The vanderbooms are human

[hasty quarry]

Alright...

I meant, I thought I saw the soul with colored eyes, or was it the eye itself?

Different devices can make it a different color anyways.

[vague imp]

The soul looks like any other soul

Hold on let me replay lake

The question mark is something shady
But i think it is the full elixir

The crow represents the animal human hybrids
Corrupted souls are souls
The forest idk what it is
The fish are the animals
The vanderbooms are human

About the forest
Since I found out what everything else means on smasara wheel the only stage left is hell
So presumebly the forest is hell
Or a bridge to the two worlds

Which is understandable since the forest is a place that has hellish stuff

[uneven flicker]

You're right. In the Theatre there are some photos(frames?) on the wall, and each stage light shows Sanskrit. And the forest photo... it shows 'Hell'.

So what I think is: the hotel is based on Paradise, right? Paradise later became Hotel. It's on the Lake, while the Hell(Forest) is at the bottom of the Lake.

I assume the lake is what we call God/Goddess in RL world, so I think on her body there is Paradise, and on her feet, Hell.

[vague imp]

The forest shows hell?
I don't remember

[hasty quarry]

forest of red, emmiting from black egg, I cannot think of a more clearer image then hell.

[vague imp]

I don't portray hell as a forest

I think it's hell because that's where the souls live

Rather Reside

[hasty quarry]

Alright...

And just like that everyone stop talking.

[hasty quarry]

True if hotel is based off PAradise, and paradise becomes hotel, Lake / Seasons molded into one another, then the Goddess is the rabbits.

Egg repersents rebirth .

[vague imp]

?

[hasty quarry]

It is an unversial symbol the egg repersents birth.

And birds approaches trees, and tree are kind of heckish and spooky if you really think of it.

[unique ibex]

Harvey still a mystery

?

[hasty quarry]

Harvey I still think they are a symoblism in between like a side quest.

[hasty quarry]

Okay White Door theory, about donuts..

[hasty quarry]

White Door theory about donuts, I betcha it is symbolism for being bitter and gray, vs. When colorized with fruits and veggies, more of a colorful sight instead of greyness of each donut though.. Kind of getting started with the routine usually.

[onyx nacelle]

New theory to link Sarah White to the rest of the series: what if Albert Transcended into a Mr. Deer(it has not yet been stated that there cant be multiple demigods of the same animal type(assuming that Albert isnt possessed by Nikolaus)) after Frank killed him, and recruited Sarah at some point to get the cube from Robert's memories.

it all depends on what Alberts role is in the upcoming 3D game

[hasty quarry]

Nikolaus is who?

[onyx nacelle]

Jakobs Father, the first known Mr. Deer.

[hasty quarry]

oh thanks 🙂

Sorry I am doing out of clay, Harvey's Cube tribute. 🙂 The Corrupted soul and egg, thinking of putting a hand holding the egg.

[azure bay]

@hasty quarry Demigonds are Mr. Crow, Mr. Owl & other folks from Hotel

[hasty quarry]

Thank you for the clarity, nowherecrafter.

[hasty quarry]

So any one know what is Harvey? Who was their surname?

[quaint matrix]

i think he's part of the hybrid members, because he was defiantly a hybrid in the hotel @hasty quarry

i just dont know how he became full bird, or not full human yet

[onyx nacelle]

as far i can can figure, harvey is the oldest being out of the three birds, they are there when Jakob goes back to paradise

when the souls broke free in the 1890's, either they turned back them selves or Jakob forced them back as a precaution to prevent their demise for the participation of the imprisonment

the souls breaking free is shown in birthday

i think

[hasty quarry]

Three birds?

What other birds are there?

[onyx nacelle]

Harvey, Aldous, and Jakob. Parrot, Crow, and Owl.

[quaint matrix]

but isn't Harvey more of a lackey to mrowl, rather than a fellow hybrid, like mr crow?

[onyx nacelle]

thats one of the big questions: Who is Harvey and what is their role in all of this?

[hasty quarry]

We know short stories of Harvey on whatever gender he/she proclaims to be. Still will of there be mutlipule birds though?

I know we have several of the eggs, even though Harvey may seem unkillable.

Maybe in the next few games (?) They are developing we can finally see what Harvey is.

I just had a thought, if Harvey was inside Dale's mind inside Paradox, but not in Birthday as far as I know, Dale did met Harvey in Seasons.

Somewhere, in the accumilation of time, duration of either the set ammount of time of where Dale, went to school learned how to become a person, studied had a few friends, the works. He must of thought of Harvey in between that gap.

And only met Laura somewhere, as of he was just walking down the hallways, and saw her a few times, did not really bother talking to her. Just shying away from where is brain was at that time.

[onyx nacelle]

there is the note that harvey sent to dale on his birthday

[hasty quarry]

You are right about that. Then they met up somewhere, in his walks.

[onyx nacelle]

i guess in line with my other comment, when you reach a new stage in the cycle, can you change freely between your current form and all the ones before it, or is it a specal ability of the asura stage(the animal heads)

[hasty quarry]

Ah.

Well my friends, I am about to just get going again on here, see you soon. 🙂

[onyx nacelle]

enjoy your day/night

[hasty quarry]

😄

So.... I kind of whder about Harvey with Dale, I mean its been raddling in my head folks. What you think and how do you think they met up?

[onyx nacelle]

the only thing i have right now is the scene in birthday with dale's spirit traveling back in time to the event, and Harvey and Jakob are aware of his presence

kind of like in Dr. Who, where the first time the Doctor meets River is the last time River meets the Doctor

it's all about perspective

[hasty quarry]

So Harvey is Dr. Who?

HAHAHAA Great pun 😛

[unique ibex]

do you have any theory of how harvey became a bird? could others become 100% animals?

[onyx nacelle]

if im understanding the cycle right, you are an animal before you're a human

[tall kraken]

If i understand right Harvey is the Player in Rusty Lake Hotel but I think that Hotel plays for Season and the other

[unique ibex]

Hmmmm

[tall kraken]

and Mr Crow turns with the Elixir into Mr Crow

[unique ibex]

@tall kraken yes

[tall kraken]

So Harvey was a human (If he was a human) and turns into a bird

[unique ibex]

But how? at the hidden end of roots, Aldous becomes Mr.Crow, not a crow.

[onyx nacelle]

we have only seen harver as bird head or bird, but never the middle stage

the animal head is after the human stage

[tall kraken]

wait... Im to bad with names...

[unique ibex]

Hmmm,so first you became a hybrid animal/human and after a animal

[onyx nacelle]

other way round

animal, then human, then hybrid(demi-god) and the unknown phase as yet: God

[tall kraken]

Yeah... Aldous turn into Mr Crow with the help of the Elixir

I think Im to fair away... God?

[onyx nacelle]

that is the final part in the cycle

[tall kraken]

So I dont understand many things in Rusty Lake games (I just say Its a Rusty Lake game so it have to)

[onyx nacelle]

the cycle is covered in Theatre

[tall kraken]

cycle

I played Theater 3-6 years ago

[unique ibex]

How? Aldous, right after taking the elixir became a hybrid.If it was the other way around he would have turned into a crow And harvey appears in all games as a bird, except the hotel (which happens simultaneously with roots), and supposedly , Harvey turns into a bird at this time.

[tall kraken]

where hotel say the player is harvey? I just read it but never in game

[unique ibex]

at the end mr owl calls you Harvey

so harvey is extremely old, right?

[tall kraken]

öhm... overread that xD

[hasty quarry]

I played theater ages ago.

[tall kraken]

so... i read the full timeline in the wiki... Now I have to play every single game ones again in the right order

[hasty quarry]

Well you can always go to resources 😄

[tall kraken]

wiki is summary... why should I not use it ^^"

[hasty quarry]

#📚｜resources < -- that and the rusty lake wiki.

[tall kraken]

Thats sound nice... I played season last time

[hasty quarry]

I think its been a week since I played Paradox.

I take massive ammounts of breaks too.

[hasty quarry]

"AT the end Mr. Owl calls you Harvey, so Harvey is extremely old right?" End of what Ozz?

[onyx nacelle]

i think he's talking about hotel

[unique ibex]

Hotel

[hasty quarry]

oh never mind, scrolled up and Ryusaki said "Hotel".

I kind of wondered why did Mr. Owl kept those skulls?

[unique ibex]

Why did Mrowl really want to kill the guests? Was it for revenge?

[onyx nacelle]

have you played Paradise?

[unique ibex]

Yes

The family is the animals

Right?

So,mr.Owl is killed by his family

as well as his mother. So when he returns with the powers of the elixir he decides to take revenge

?

[onyx nacelle]

that is the reason for hotel, they sacrificed Caroline for immortality, after she took Jakob's place. Paradise happens, then everyone leaves the island i guess. Jakob plans and schemes for about a century, during which he met Aldous, and then Hotel happens

[unique ibex]

Ah,yea that's make sense
So,another question,is the white door the new hotel?

To take the memories

[onyx nacelle]

the hotel might just have been to hold the spirits

[unique ibex]

Hmmm

[onyx nacelle]

unless the lake itself has some weird mystical pollution of some sort that spreads like a disease

which would explain all the random people in the basement

[unique ibex]

Yeah

The new game of Albert maybe explain something else

[onyx nacelle]

i wonder if the mammoth game is more of Harvey's story

[unique ibex]

Yess,that would make a lot of sense, when I saw the date on the wiki I was really intrigued

[hasty quarry]

What if, no one left the island, what if there was master plans to build for The Mill, the cave et all?

What if in theory you where supposed to play with Hotel first?

[onyx nacelle]

i think the events of either 1894 or 1896 led to that part of the plan

[hasty quarry]

1894 more or less.

What if each sence was like a day in the game?

[tall kraken]

mr deer was killed in hotel, but who can mr deer be on dales birthday party?

and why....

[hasty quarry]

yeah. Why is that?

Why is Mr. Deer be on his birthday?

Been running in my thought of this , since we last talked about people.

[onyx nacelle]

it was mr rabbit, not deer

[hasty quarry]

No talking about the shadow.

In the window.

Maybe I am wrong of the shadow, but could of sworn the first one was a deer though. The far back one, not up close one.

[onyx nacelle]

that could very well be albert, there is no telling what he learned from his fathers notes while he was trying to create Rose.

[hasty quarry]

You got that right, no telling what Albert's father wrote down.

[onyx nacelle]

i need to ga back and replay a lot of if not all of the other games

[hasty quarry]

I just mentioned RL to a friend of mine from another world.

How did the guest seem socialiable for of the Hotel though? That is the biggest question.

Even though they nearly destoried each other.

[tall kraken]

Rose is such a good girl ^^ I like her...
So its not importend if its Mr Deer or Mr Rabbit... Both should be dead

[hasty quarry]

Rose and Elizabeth where such really amazing and down to earth people.

[hasty quarry]

I still pounder of much these days... How come Red Forest only showed up twice?

[tall kraken]

both... both are great

[hasty quarry]

Well based on my current play through of theater, there are two more paintings of the blood forest.

So I kind of wonder what that symbolized?

[vague imp]

I think it fits more in theories since it's speculation but most people think the deer mask person is Albert [likely]

[hasty quarry]

ARe you sure it is his softer side?

[vague imp]

who knows lmao..

[hasty quarry]

Not talking about Albert, the other deer head person, who has an actual deer head.

I think it is an alternation on Dale. Somewhat.

[vague imp]

maybe so

[hasty quarry]

"Embrace your corrupted soul, just remember that."

Funny thing, I just finished up Paradox a few minutes ago.

[hasty quarry]

I just think it is him, just same suit and tie, without the deer mask on white door.

|| He does appear in the bar scene.||

[vague imp]

fair..

[hasty quarry]

And Deerface "Dale" was running in the foreground of Paradox chapter two, sort of helping you out though, as well as the standing in.

[vague imp]

god damn it i wanna make a joke but i think the mods n admins will throw me into the basement

or they will drown me either or lmao

[hasty quarry]

About deerS?

Deeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[vague imp]

sorta..XD

[hasty quarry]

Annnnnnnyyyyyyyy........

Deer, why Deer mask in a suit, a little bigger then Dr. Deer?

How come the glasses in hotel, how are they eating ?

What is the price to payyyyy......lalalaal

laalala...

Hey hey heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.......lalalaa....... ::: puts back mic on stand::

[tall kraken]

||749 : Dale with a deer mask in the Lake||

[hasty quarry]

https://starecat.com/day-28-they-still-dont-know-im-a-dog-death-metal-band/ Remove caption enter "Day ? And they still do not realised I am Dale"

[tall kraken]

wrong chat?

[hasty quarry]

noooooooo...... 😛

Still if that was Dale, in five different places in Paradox, when you are controlling his soul... Looking back at the last few scenes of where it was like movie like realism.

[unique ibex]

What if the birthday and the theater take place during the cave
At that point where we found the dale and laura underwater
That machine would be like a memory projector
And if the seasons pass together too, as a memory of laura
That's why she can use the blue cube
Then the dale leaves and goes up the elevator, which goes to the new hotel room
That's when the paradox happens

[hasty quarry]

Subs tend to do that, everything is string.

Elevator ups and have each one in subsection in each game - I said that ages ago.

:: sighs::

You are just quoting my own words Ozz.

[unique ibex]

Yeah,so im right?

[hasty quarry]

Perhaps,... Then what is the giant ? in the wheel though?

[unique ibex]

Sorry,i don't understand you

[hasty quarry]

The Devanagari writing on the Mill, the wheel, and the frames is a reference to Saṃsāra in Buddhism, the repetitive cycle of birth and death (rebirth/reincarnation), the translation as follows: it is near this image.

[unique ibex]

A understood

[hasty quarry]

I was going to switch to spanish hahaha 🙂

erm its by the bathroom door.. my mistake, i just opedn up theater.

[hasty quarry]

Diiiiiisccccccccccoooooooooo.....

Everyone Discooooo 🙂

[swift knoll]

I'm pretty sure that the corrupted soul that attacks harvey at the end of Harvey's Box is miss pigeon

Also Mr. Owl is a terrible person

[hasty quarry]

I am pretty sure that too, I think he caught the egg, ergo my fan art I did some time ago.

If you did not see it, I can post it up again, Good Doggo.

I have been thinking of each of the elevator theory I stated ages ago, I think still, it was like inside his mind, duration of Paradox. You can shift into alternation realms into one's own mind, and still stiffle throughout different types of Roachracs (sp?) throughout your own mind, in a way you are always trickle onto ones spilled ink.

I also think the ink you do get into the sub level in the cave, just happens to be inside what the Vanderboorms aletered Alber / Mr. Deers own mind.

*alberts

[hasty quarry]

What if. Harvey was a time traveler?

What if HArvey sort of got away with everything they did, and had to camoflaughe her idenity?

What if.. just for a moment, Harvey was someting even more sneaky? Harvey was not in Paradise though, right?

[onyx nacelle]

they were

she was in one of the windows of the well building i think during the 2nd or 3rd plague,

could be wrong on when

[hasty quarry]

oh, its been ages since played with the plauges lol.....

Weird typing that up.

[grim nexus]

moi je dis que en fait rusty lake est aller prendre quelqu'un de fou dans la rue et a mis en jeu tout ce que le détenu a dit!

[hasty quarry]

Uh sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Just remember it is a crazy world.

[hasty quarry]

Still what if Harvey was some sort of time travler, that was extra cautious?

[swift knoll]

What if harvey is just... immortal?

[hasty quarry]

So Harvey was born when the earth first was lava?

[onyx nacelle]

she may have been around since 20,000 bc

that game might finally answer the question

[hasty quarry]

I kind have a feeling that Harvey would be inside the Albert / fourth year project.

Well who was the fish?

[onyx nacelle]

here's another question: Does Jakob have any descendants?

[hasty quarry]

He did talk with Dale towards the end of paradox, like a brother esque speach.

Even though they switch, but something about the context.

[swift knoll]

My personal theory is that Mr. Rabbit pre-corruption is the cutest boi and i want him to date Mr. Deer pre-corruption

[hasty quarry]

WTF? Mr. Rabbit killed Dales parents, how do you explain that?

[swift knoll]

that was post-corruption

[hasty quarry]

again. No Dale of himself, would consider of dating Mr. Rabbit.

Those two are family.

Eww.

[vague imp]

Chill out you two this isn't Game of Thrones

[swift knoll]

Oh. Right.

the "family" bit flew directly over my head

[hasty quarry]

Oh okay, I will be playing with my yo-yo in the corner...

[onyx nacelle]

there is also the theories that Dale and Laura are cousins and that dale is related to Jakob

they were floating around here about a year ago

[hasty quarry]

Ohhh......I know that theory...I was here Behnking.

[swift knoll]

Do you think Aldous is named after Aldous Huxley?

[minor oak]

Not sure

[hasty quarry]

Who?

[sacred sable]

Did a quick google search and turns out Aldous Huxley was a writer and a philosopher.

[onyx nacelle]

im wondering how many theories could be answered simply by watching Twin Peaks

[hasty quarry]

I think I may have seen some of the early stuff in Twin Peaks back when it was in the 80s sort of pop culture though, but not the nexflix.

[hasty quarry]

Now I understand why first was seasons, because you play as Dale?

Right?

[hasty quarry]

Hmm.. No, I do not think so after visuallizing the game in my head, I honestly think it was Bob.

[tall kraken]

Season isnt dale... Season is Laura

[hasty quarry]

So Laura did herself off?

Why would Laura attempt to shut down herself for good, I think there is more then one player in seasons.

There is the soul, there is Harvey, of where Laura's postcard was based on the same design as in season, that Bob slipped out of his pocket in Theater.

There is a step backwards, we do not hear of Bob until Theater, where as he just slums down and drinks. Quote the lines that he did spewed out in Theater.

[onyx nacelle]

She was depressed

[hasty quarry]

But the knife part, was too fast...

for it be a realism one, it had to match up the CS in Paradox.

[onyx nebula]

Any thoughts of how recovering from corrupted state could end up being used or how its done, just joined so sorry if this question was already answered

[onyx nacelle]

looking over kristens last insta post, the bottom right of the picture is of a person

[onyx nacelle]

i know where that whole picture was taken from

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUNOl2_AqC4/ https://malmo.se/images/18.595fae40148e02fb5b14953c/1491300960320/sekundar.ebbas.©-Andreas-Rasmusson.2012_1964_710_004_028.jpg

[onyx nacelle]

final proof

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g189839-d6456841-Reviews-Ebba_s_House-Malmo_Skane_County.html#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=7&ff=153582244

[vague imp]

@onyx nacelle you are awesome 😍

[onyx nacelle]

i have discovered something else about the location

[onyx nacelle]

there is also a theater down from the church and left of the house. unrelated to anything RL is an escape room between the house and theater

[sacred sable]

So Paradox made me think of something. In Chapter 2, Dale’s file kinda resembles a file you would find in a psychiatric facility. And it got me thinking, what if the events that happened (excluding hotel, roots and paradise) what if Mr. Owl and Mr.Crow never existed? Was it all in his mind? And when you think about Rusty Lake sounds more like a psychiatric ward

It’s just a thought though, I could be wrong

[hasty quarry]

There is an actual ward down town from where, I do bowl at. Makes me wonder.

[onyx nacelle]

is there any proof that Laura wasn't staying at the white door before she killed herself?

[ashen mist]

What about timer in insta stories? 👀👀👀

[covert wyvern]

The timet wad called circle of life right

[spice frigate]

I think Albert was there all along
like... oh god

no wonder the other day I saw RL play samsara room

[covert wyvern]

If lifes a circle, it's only natural to end back in samsaras room I suppose

[vague imp]

So from the teaser[s] we just saw on their insta/twitter.etc, i assume we will see the Vanderbooms again in this oncoming game thus the deer skull [or should i say buck/stag skull] maybe [just maybe] the Vanderbooms and Eilanders will appear together?Im just getting those vibes from the teasers since the buck/stag skull is related to Albert/Nicholas

[covert wyvern]

O MY GOD

Could the symbols we've beeb discovering in their posts

Lead to something?

[vague imp]

Maybe that Eilanders/Vanderbooms meeting up is wishful thinking but i feel like thats the way its going lmao...

[covert wyvern]

I GUESS that's a thing for when the new game actually srops

[spice frigate]

Let's not forget the tall figure

[covert wyvern]

T A L L

[spice frigate]

I remember when I went like "Looks like Albert"

[covert wyvern]

Whose canonically the tallest character in games

In the games*

[vague imp]

hmmmm could be actually

[spice frigate]

and ngl, that is Albert
Perhaps... he was there all along, just couldn't get into the ""right"" body?

[uneven flicker]

Could the symbols we've beeb discovering in their posts
@covert wyvern

I think so. It might be connected to the recent event. We got 3 symbols by far...

[vague imp]

No offense to Rusty Lake when i say this but that could be retconned into the series

[covert wyvern]

Indeed indeed

[vague imp]

not saying retconning is always bad

[covert wyvern]

IS THERE A 4TH SYMBOL IN ONE OF THEZE POSTS

..

.>

[uneven flicker]

oh

we have to check

but...we don't know. I don't know. They don't put the symbol on the recent post.

[spice frigate]

and yes, Wallpaper is the same as from Convention photo and IG photo

[covert wyvern]

Nice

[uneven flicker]

great

[covert wyvern]

Can u check it against the samsaras one?

[spice frigate]

Sure thing! give me a second

[covert wyvern]

07

[spice frigate]

Okay, so the Samsara wallpaper was hard to connect with one on the picture
perhaps RL went with newer design, but yet the same look

[uneven flicker]

And the drawers.

this one is from the short trailer updated on 26th, April, 2019.

And this one is from Samara.

[grizzled bluff]

👀

[uneven flicker]

not the exact same ones, but considering the similar patterns and the shapes... maybe it would be connected to samsara...

[sand sluice]

Those are similar enough that they might just be an art asset update

[swift knoll]

Do you think that rusty lake: seasons is sort of purgatory for Laura?

Since the mechanic of moving through time in seasons is similar to the mechanic of moving through realities in Samsara, it would make sense for them to be linked.

[pure rose]

But the mechanics is also kinda similar to the paradox, so

[swift knoll]

Who's to say that that isn't also something of a purgatory?

Seasons being a purgatory would explain why dale sees the room in seasons disappear when he arrives at the murder scene.

It's her soul going through the door into enlightenment

It would also thematically explain why laura's corrupted soul was in the mill, as in cube escape theatre, a mill is used to parallel the concept of samsara!

I don't know, i'm throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's just... the sheer implications of that ending scene!

It raises so many questions as to what "enlightenment" actually means

or does it? i don't know i think too much

[hasty quarry]

Ya know, I was deeply thinking on what you just said.. I did the thought first ages ago.

I just finished up theater and seasons and deeply meditated on, if Dale lost his soul midway, then where is the enlightment?

[polar warren]

You can never hink too much when it comes to theories

[hollow raptor]

I personally think Seasons did not really happen, just like Dale didn't actually prevent the murder of his family Laura did not prevent her suicide
They just relived some traumatic memories and changed them so that their souls could heal
Maybe Seasons happened inside Laura's mind the same time Paradox happened in Dale's when they were both attached to the cube machine we see in the Cave

[clear venture]

Seems similar to the technology used by the white door to heal its patients. I'm not saying those events take place in the white door, just that we know mr owl has that technology.

[polar warren]

also dont the games after case 23 take place in the lake?

i havent played the cube escape series in a while so i don't remember that much

[clear venture]

Yes

Inside the lake

The last part of the timeline, I think, is Dave arriving at the hotel after confronting himself in Paradox

[swift knoll]

Also, there's the fact that the illustration of rusty lake is in front of the for lack of a better word, shrine, in the window. I feel like canonically it has something to do with William's upbringing (the fact that he lived at rusty lake) but thematically it's much more significant

@clear venture But Laura decorrupting herself canonically took place in the 80's

[clear venture]

Sorry I don't see what your point is

Could you elaborate on that?

[swift knoll]

@clear venture The last point, chronologically, is in the 80s, in Rusty Lake: Seasons

Paradox takes place in 1972

[chrome ember]

There are several corupted souls in this variant of painting. I have already found Mr.Deer, Miss.Pigion, Mr.White Rabbit, Mr.Crow(in his human form), and I guess Dales corupted soul.

[clear venture]

Yeah that's right

@swift knoll

Question about the canon, where is Samsara room suppouse to be located? Because it looks like it's a plane of existences before your birth, given that it ends with Laura being born. And if it is, how can Laura see herself in the future? And for that matter, the games makes a point of Laura waving at somebody, do you think this is a random detail or its gonna be important for the next release.

Sorry if it's to long

[chrome ember]

Doesn't it says "Is it me??" when you click on Rose? And also in the Roots final lvl it is written "Samsara" under a image with Rose holding a baby...

[clear venture]

Yeah that is what I said about the plane

And if it's waving at her, how can she see her?

And "samsara" it's been in a lot of Rusty Lake games, or at least I think

[chrome ember]

Mby they all are just memories of Roses past lifes?

And Laura can see her because she is also William..?

[clear venture]

That's a good theory

So Samsara Room (the game) would be the moment in which William becomes Laura with the retual

[hasty quarry]

It does make sense, maybe each of the scenes we have seen in Samsara is even a pulled away in the different versions of, a truth, fish,worm,human,anti-human, that each of the room is another full expression on how we feel and not just to talk things over.

Having some visuallisations without saying a word.

*visualized.

As you try to swim forth, before you learn to crawl.

Mentally. Become each of the lowest forms, and kids always wanted to climb up the roofs right?

[minor forge]

Here is ridiculus theory about 'why william's elixir was failed.'
Everybody had known elixir makes people to animal person with immortality.
But some person did fail to change and they are all dead immediately. Of course, William was one of them.
But yesterday we did play samsara room, and watched secret ending, maybe we can know about why william failed change.
Because..||his animal form doesn't live on earth.|| do you remember about other animal-person? They have a lung all. Bird, boar, deer, owl, crow, bat, etc... They all can live on earth. Of course in the harvey's box, there is fish-person exist. But...nobody know it was real and some people think harvey's box is his imagine. But sort of fish can live on earth. But if...it is not...?
Alike...||shrimp?|| that sounds so ridiculous. But in the samsara room's secret ending, william does found in the ||shrimp.||
It can be happening in real. Elixir's power is so powerful to make person to animalize*(it is created word. Make a normal thing's shape to other animal.) immediately.
If william's animal form was really ||shrimp||, he can't breath on earth. Because, Labotory of Elixir doesn't covered water to live any shrimp.
Of course, it can be change later by new game. But it is possible theory.
Yeah, I know it sounds so silly. Let's laugh. 😆 😆

[hasty quarry]

Shriiiimppppppppppyyyyyyy

hahaa..

You silly goofy person.

[minor forge]

Why there doesn't mr.||shrimp!||
He can be so yummy!😆

[hasty quarry]

Here is the real trip, still believe we are all creatures of the ocean, on whatever we have a click in our own minds, as human beings we adapt pretty rapidly on what one another really wanted inside the values of our own past, we can either get into a fish, on how we swim, our hands automatically goes with fins, our own fangs in our own mouth. On our own chemistry telling us to either "Stay awake" or falling to sleep either.

Really you must understand humanity and biologic itself 😛

[minor forge]

Well. I am already have a sort of degrees, but it was just break theory for fun. And It doesn't mean about I can't understand of this game series's ritual ideology.😆

[hasty quarry]

hahaah 😛

I was thinking more universal on how we are all connected through the sea, anti-Rusty Lake.

[minor forge]

But it quiet silly. Isn't it?

[hasty quarry]

You got me there 🙂

[minor forge]

Well. I will go. Because Here is night. Be safe and have a nice day.

[hasty quarry]

Sure. See you whenever 🙂 Take care Sangwoo Shim

[crude plank]

Doesn't it says "Is it me??" when you click on Rose? And also in the Roots final lvl it is written "Samsara" under a image with Rose holding a baby...
@chrome ember
i think samsara room happened before seasons, on the samsara room the corrupted soul said it's me?
and on the seasons the soul is affirming that saying it's me.

[hasty quarry]

That would explain seasons on how much brutality attack on her neck, vs. the way Dale did it

Yes it is the end to Roots.

[hidden ledge]

My personal theory is that every person consived this way (with sacrifices from family members) goes through a samsara room before getting born. Since Laura is the only one consived this way probably noone has been in a samsara room before. Or it could be that everyone born in rusty lake goes trough that. But given the fact that it says samsara (I think that means circle of life) I think that you go trough it only if you lived before.

[hasty quarry]

But tell me, martiblq, if you wanted to go through animal kingdom, what animal would you prefer first?

[lean cypress]

i just noticed about this!! look at their clothes

[polar warren]

Wrong tie XD

[lean cypress]

maybe he likes using different ties :v

[polar warren]

Fancy

[hasty quarry]

Nope, both are brothers,methinks.

Although the creese in the panss though.

hmmm...

[hidden ledge]

is it possible that the events of cube escape seasons happen in the mind of the corupted soul of Laura while Mr Crow is talking to her in the mill. That will explain why the phone randomly says the lines of mr crow from the mill. And at the end of seasons the corupted soul dies just like in the mill. The talk between crow and laura was short but in her head the events of seasons happened.

[polar warren]

Well... Laura's corrupted soul looks different if you remember the ending of Cube escape: cave

[hidden ledge]

oh yea

forgot about that

so she didn't die in the mill

[polar warren]

Well I haven't played the series in a whole but I think she still got corrupted in the mill

[hidden ledge]

she did get corupted in the mill but the last time we saw her was in the cave. (or paradox but it's not sure if she was real (in the second chapter))

[polar warren]

But in the first chapter?

I haven't played the second

[covert wyvern]

Dales entire mission is solving her murder right?

or am I behind on my lore

[onyx nacelle]

i think that was how he was brought back into the fold of the lake, a not-so-happy happy coincidence that Jakob and Aldous could take advantage of

[hidden ledge]

For some reason Jacob wants Dale to take his place.

Also does Owl know that Laura is Crows' brother? He always refers to her as "the woman".

[polar warren]

Well he's a woman now

He was probsbly like 'the woman wink wink'

[covert wyvern]

does Laura realise she's william tho?

or has his soul or w/e

MAYBE YALL HAVE RAMBLED ABOUT THIS FOR HOURS BUT I ONLY JUST UNMUTED THE THEORIES CHANNEL OKAy

[hidden ledge]

I think she does and she is him but at the same time she is a new person. Because what would be the point of william getting a second life without being himself

[covert wyvern]

Maybe it's more of William preserving his soul rather than him being actually him

also did Laura, or in this case williams soul corrupt, bc theres two souls in the same body,

or did williams soul corrupt, and did that whole thingy just kinda fail?

[hidden ledge]

Laura dated Bob so I think she is her own person. If I was living again as a woman i still wouldn't date men : D

[covert wyvern]

Probably same.

Like if I was still me i'd probably retain my sexual preferences right!

that's why I was wondering.

poor bob, didnt know what he got himself into.

[hidden ledge]

I'm wondering if Rose is still alive

When was she born?

[covert wyvern]

I'd have to

check the wiki for that

LMAO

[hidden ledge]

the wiki says 1904

9*

so maybe

[covert wyvern]

She'd be old, but like

could be very good genes!

[onyx nacelle]

the summer of 1909

[covert wyvern]

And there's the whole family of chemists thing, so maybe some potions help.

or rather, elixirs.

[hidden ledge]

When she was dancing with lenoard she was kinda dancing with her brother

oh

ops

it was frank : D

btw frank has the exact genes as his mother

[covert wyvern]

Interesting.

I have to be honest its been a while since I played roots

and I can't say ive remembered all the in depth bits ;p

[hidden ledge]

roots is my favourity

[onyx nacelle]

i just have a pile of notes encompassing the whole series at hand

[hidden ledge]

bruh

I have an old notebook where I just was writing rusty lake stuff

[covert wyvern]

hahha I do not sadly

#fakefan amirite!

ive written 4 rusty lake poems!

but that's off topic.

[hidden ledge]

like the fact that you can kill a corupted soul with fireflyes

[polar warren]

I wanna start making theories when I've played all the games

Not completely sure if we KILLED the corrupted soul

[onyx nacelle]

i plan on making better notes and transcribing everything into a proper notebook

[hidden ledge]

I was wondering

what is the meaning of the sign in the big shrimp room in samsara

[onyx nacelle]

that is Samsara written in sanskrit

[hidden ledge]

ow

[covert wyvern]

is it Samsara? I see.

[hidden ledge]

also we still don't know how blue cubes are made right?

[covert wyvern]

blue cubes when did those pop up again?

ahhaha.

[onyx nacelle]

seasons, birthday, the cave, maybe paradox

still havent properly played paradox

[hidden ledge]

ok be honest... Who played the games cracked before buying them? (I did : ( )

[polar warren]

I haven't played the premium games at all

[onyx nacelle]

so far i've payed for the premium games 3 times across 3 platforms

[covert wyvern]

I've bought the premium games,

I've been playing before they ever went premium so I didnt have much trouble supporting! hahaha.

[hidden ledge]

i really don't know how the games aren't more pupular.

[covert wyvern]

A replay is due tho, if I forgot about the blue cubes, smh.

This is probably more cabin talk

so let me just

[hidden ledge]

what is the cabin room for?

[onyx nacelle]

cabin is for off topic stuff

[covert wyvern]

Its just for all stuff thats not for other channels.

[hidden ledge]

when van gogh suesided did he leave a white cube because he was depressed

[hasty quarry]

I come up with a theory of my own when I was in the shower, what if you where playing as Jackob throughout Samsara?

[hidden ledge]

why jacob?

[hasty quarry]

Well in paradox, he does morph into different personas, just before paradise, and you automatically know he is Mr. Owl, but we never understand why it was..

[covert wyvern]

I mean considering we see || laura || at the end of samsara, it's pretty safe to assume this is william being reborn?

[hasty quarry]

But how in the end video it said "Who am I" meaning as Willy boy is in Rose's arms and Laura is standing next to them, so as Jackob was by his aunt most of the time.

[covert wyvern]

Mhm.

[polar warren]

I just replayed seasons and noticed that on the moon in summer not only is there a soul beside her but also directly behind her like on every other picture

Though it might just be them being too lazy to make the shadow move with Laura

[hasty quarry]

yup. I noticed that too, a while ago.

I also noticed on how really creepy her face is hahaa...

Creepy vs, other games.

[polar warren]

Ye, it's weird

[hidden ledge]

Are Samuel and Lenoard still stuck in the roots?

they're probably dead

[hidden ledge]

I made a timeline of the games in excel

[covert wyvern]

cool!

[hidden ledge]

the yellow ones are the ones which are happening in one year. The green ones are the beginings and the red ones are the ends

[hasty quarry]

awesome.

[red wave]

can i give samsara spoiler here due to theories?

[pure rose]

Yep,you can now I guess)

But it would be better if you censor it 😁

[covert wyvern]

indeed indeed!

[vague imp]

Any thoughts about a mammoth?

It's Manny from ice age 2020 confirmed

What is your theory about van gogh? Will he play another role in the story of rl?

[covert wyvern]

I really hope he will.

[vague imp]

Me too

There is plenty of room to make rl games for a life time

If they are still willing to listen to ideas from fans and not bored

[covert wyvern]

While I'll agree there's enough ideas for a lifetime of RL games, I think the Devs have a pretty solid story in their heads, of which we of course barely have an idea, that they'll play out.

[vague imp]

They even had before they started the series

They had in mind samsara room before roots

so its pretty solid

They must have seen a lot of TV series

What was the TV series they were inspired from btw

?

[covert wyvern]

it's twin peaks 😉

but that TV show is definitely best discussed in #🛖｜the-cabin Greek.

[vague imp]

I see a double reincarnation.

David Eilander => Mr Rabbit => Albert Vanderboom

@covert wyvern

@vague imp

[covert wyvern]

perhaps! can't say im up to date on my reincarnation lore, I only have an idea of what samsara room is about.

[vague imp]

This subforum is dead

Ok

Let's try and make any corellations between Eilanders and Vanderbooms

Also, Vanderboom and Vandermeer seem pretty similar. Do you know what-boom -meer mean ?

[covert wyvern]

I do,

considering Im dutch, boom translates to tree, and meer to lake.

[polar warren]

Huh, weird for Dale to be lake but we'll he is the hosen one I guess XD (referring to the letters from mill)

[covert wyvern]

if we literally translate DaleVandermeer

it'll be Dale from the lake.

[polar warren]

And back to the lake he goes

[vague imp]

And aldous vanderboom
Aldous from the tree

I am the Greek seeker 1

Changed name trying to promote the use of Van Gogh in the series

[covert wyvern]

@vague imp if someone wants to discuss theories, they'll respond to your messages, no need to flood the other channels, please tone it down.

[vague imp]

Well the community seems quite disoriented

But ok

[spice frigate]

not really quite disoriented
We either don't have time or don't want to talk about theories atm
some people are busy (like me atm) but once they're free I bet ya they will want to discuss theories

[covert wyvern]

so please keep your messages to the appropriate channels.

[vague imp]

Ok

[hasty quarry]

How odd, I just watched Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosuars the other day, ghost.

[vague imp]

lmao

[hasty quarry]

I kept imagining Rusty Lake theme songs playing in the entire movie lol.

[vague imp]

What do the animals represent? Deer, Pigeon, Pheasant, Rabbit and Boar

[hasty quarry]

Deer = speed, Pigeon = flight, Rabbit = death/life, Boar = Ghost.

[vague imp]

Pheasant?

How do you know

How do they correlate with the 2 families?

[hasty quarry]

Have you tried scrolling up on what I mentioned earlier within the year in this channel? I am not going to retype it all up.

[vague imp]

For how long man?

Can you give me a key word to type in and try to find it immediately?

[hasty quarry]

Well if you have played Hotel, and the Boar I believe is Gereld, the frog eater, right, he appears as a ghost in paradise.

If you have played Paradox towards the last half of it, you will see a deer running away.

[vague imp]

Yes

[hasty quarry]

it is either Dale or Albert some to believe.

[vague imp]

But the ghost boar exists before Gerald becomes hybrid

The deer with half man body ?

[hasty quarry]

yeah

[vague imp]

This seems like Dale

His semi corrupted soul

[hasty quarry]

Dale was losing his entire well being in paradox.

[vague imp]

Yeah

Do you want to chat in private?

[hasty quarry]

Ghost boar we did not see until duration of Paradise.

[vague imp]

I'd want to save these messages you send man

[hasty quarry]

Nope. I am about to leave this anyways.

[vague imp]

But if you send them here they'll be lost

Well ok

[hasty quarry]

Sure you can inbox me any time. Sorry my stomach was getting in the way 😄

[vague imp]

Connection among Elizabeth Eilander and Rose Vanderboom

[hasty quarry]

Care to explain?

[vague imp]

Both are intuitive and care to persevere something. Elizabeth seems to have a strong connection with some kind of spirits, while Rose is clearly knowledgeable of her past and her purpose

[hasty quarry]

If they are like kindred spirits, wouldn't a fair amount of connections tie them both, but they are on the specturm from figure a to figure z labyrinth style to Roots.

[vague imp]

Or a new rl game will prove us wrong and will unfold more connections

[hasty quarry]

True, so lets ramble on here.

[vague imp]

What do you have to say on what I said ?

[hasty quarry]

So why do you think the soul is someone else?

I still think the link is clear, in paradox he really transforms to each bloody shadow inside the reflection in Samsara.

[vague imp]

He only becomes a fish in the future

His present mind is just an old jacob

Do you think that figure is William?

So Jacob in the present is william

So he is basically the archetype corrupted soul

Archetypical*

[hasty quarry]

How can William, be in different forms?

William is dead he killed himself through the drink.

[vague imp]

Didn't you say that Jacob is a corrupted soul?

In paradox in the present mind we see a middle aged Jacob who I thought you said was William

William is a corrupted soul

And you claim Jacob to be too

So are they 1 soul

?

Or different ?

[hasty quarry]

Mr. Crows sotry line has been butchered til death, also his brothers one as well, Jackob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkWe73k_BQ0 towards the ending, you can always hint that Mr. Crow and William is pushing him towards Jackob right?

I kind of wondered why Dale was uttering to himself, where as he was prep it up for Mr. Owl.

That is all.

[vague imp]

Mr crow and Jacob aren't brothers

And what do you mean by butchered his story line to death ?

[hasty quarry]

Like he has been done to death.

[vague imp]

Birthday and theater happen before the cave. The events of white door happen before all. I can't say when paradox happens

White door either

[hasty quarry]

Paradox, I think occur in side the elevator, while Dale was turning into an adult, after Birthday. Because you may never know what one really thinks.

[vague imp]

Yeah but he goes out into the forest. He must see the forest first before imagining it. And Mr crow too. So how can that whole thing be a mere illusion?

Occurring inside his head

[hasty quarry]

Simple, he created him, and Mr. Owl.

Just figments of friends at his birthday.

But then again, where was Mr. Owl and Crow duration of Seasons and oh yeah... The Lake?

[vague imp]

So Dale never really grows up?

What you just said is a mindfuck

Can you say more on that ?

If Mr owl is an illusion how can you explain Mr rabbit ?

So hotel really did happen

So ?

[hasty quarry]

Hotel did really happen, even though a childs mind tend to wonder.

Death does affect us all, no matter what though, sometimes we can create such illusions of different presonas.

[vague imp]

In this imaginary world, hybrids are real

If your edition is true, paradise was futile

Non-existent*

[hasty quarry]

Hotel, paradise, and oh. the other game with Rusty Lake, only deals with the lake.

The other seven.five games deals with trama.

*drama.

[vague imp]

Paradox, I think occur in side the elevator, while Dale was turning into an adult, after Birthday. Because you may never know what one really thinks.
@hasty quarry I think the elevator presents Dale's memory.....and only part of the memory is truely happened.

[vague imp]

And do you guys have an BBS or sth to discuss the story......We're not so easy to get on discord.....

[vague imp]

How though? What about case 23 ?

Is that also fake ?

I think Laura and Dale both have their own moments of insanity but Mr owl and Mr crow exist and have a bigger, kind of more sinister plan

If you try to logically explain the story then you need to claim that it all happened inside a brain.

If you accept that in that universe other rules apply, then ...

Case 23 shows Dale as a grownup. And he hears mr crows voice. Hotel is spectated by Harvey. Paradise as Jacob. Roots as William's soul. Theater really happened, although its just a memory in Dale's mind, because Bob also remembers it. Birthday happened. I don't think the letters sent to him are from imaginary friends because Dale feels lonely. Dale is mr Crow's grandson. They need his memories and mr owl want him to rule the lake after mr crow dies and Jacob unites with the lake as a fish. It's his partner's grandson, so it makes sense. Also, the mere presence of corrupted souls in seasons, lake, Harvey's box and Arles, shows that this universe is a magical one, in which different rules apply and more mysterious entities exist. The cave even shows mr crow as human and as a hybrid. The white door shows that Bob has interaction with the "extracting your memories " crew. We can't say that paradox happens in the elevator. I think it happens when Dale comes out of the elevator, after he remembers birthday and theater. Maybe there is a room in the forest of the lake somewhere. We don't know yet for sure. Everything is very murky

Someone said that in Lake Laura is saved by Harvey turning into a hybrid, if you place the green diamond. So this pretty much says it all

[lean cypress]

woah

great explanation

[hasty quarry]

🙂

[vague imp]

@hasty quarry awaiting your answer

[hasty quarry]

By balancing in what the acts of memories extraction, and drinking a lot of magic within, believed if each soul was tested to their utmost powerful test, then where is the thought that grows inside Case 23? Towards the ending too.

Match the shadows to the story lines of everything flashing forward.

You can only "See what is the light, but never afraid at night."

[vague imp]

Update :

Dale and Laura are on floor -1 of Hotel for 10 years, until Mr Crow descends there in 1981. In the meantime, Mr Owl tries to extract memories from both of them, thus we could argue that Paradox happens in the meantime at the bottom of the Lake. Or when Dale finally ascends with the Golden Cube he remembers Birthday, Theatre and then Paradox, or even it happens in the Cabin afterwards.

@hasty quarry can you even understand what you write ? Seriously, I present a coherent explanation and you write armchair philosophies. Explain pleass

What thought in case 23

???

[hasty quarry]

Case 23, the deer at the end = speed.

Speed running through the graphics, and skipping on such a deep full meaning of humanity.

Think I am over cooked for this sever...

[vague imp]

Man

Are you on psychedelics?

🤣

[hasty quarry]

no.

I am not on drugs.

[vague imp]

Then what do you mean?

What speed?

Yeah the deer hunts dale. Mr deer. The father eilander

Then what ?

[hasty quarry]

Speed of the deer, speed of one's own shadow and huting it all.

hunting it all.

[vague imp]

That shows simply that the hybrids exist

[hasty quarry]

We all see different aspects on hybrids this and that.

[vague imp]

I think of them as the family Eilnader who became Hybrids after Jacob's sacrifice

[hasty quarry]

We are all one's own reflected own core of hate, until one day we become passive "balloon" hate.

Elinaders are magic.

[vague imp]

And they hunt down whoever tries to do them wrong

Eilanders are what ?

You mean imaginary?

@hasty quarry are you enlightened?

[hasty quarry]

magic.

MAGIIIIIIIC.

David frozen in ice, Elizabeth lost her sight, playing with the frogs in Gerald's stomach, the old woman is a wasp.

Deer dance, a star romance, blood moon, egg shells oh yeah.

🙂

[vague imp]

Yeah it is a magical world

It doesn't mean that they don't have consciousness

[hasty quarry]

..

[vague imp]

Dude

You over complicate things

[hasty quarry]

Suureeeeeeeeeeeeeee if you wanna have a bunch of zombies splattered within the idealism of being, into a cult...

[vague imp]

Can we Skype? I have a lot of questions

[hasty quarry]

This is what i am man.

I never sold my soul to the video.

[vague imp]

So you think that only Dale Laura and Bob are real ?

What video?

Whom do you consider a real living person in the story ?

[hasty quarry]

Video, you know skype.

I rather speak in the flesh.

[vague imp]

Yeah it'd be easier to speak vocally

Rather than text

I'm up if you want

[hasty quarry]

The only thing that and person will of been more complicated human child, is funny I would just be Mr. Owl.

Nah.

[vague imp]

You think that only mr owl lives ?

Oh man

[hasty quarry]

I rather also do the net thing too, just no video calling anyways, I have been anti-in that way.

[vague imp]

Okay

So you think eilanders are magic but Mr owl exists

And not Laura Bob and dale

[hasty quarry]

Mr. Owl created Laura and Bob

[vague imp]

Who created mr crow ?

[hasty quarry]

Mr. Owl was the guide in the shadow of Seasons, there is always like another shadow in Seasons right?

[vague imp]

I'll have to disagree

No

[hasty quarry]

Tall and thin, almost feathery around the head.

[vague imp]

Seasons is only laura-william and her soul

[hasty quarry]

I am pretty sure, there is another person other then, Harvey who does appear, talking about in winter.

[vague imp]

It shows another soul

May be one of the souls of the hybrid animals

[hasty quarry]

yes.

[vague imp]

Mr deer or boar

Or just william

Seeing Laura's soul

Being 2 beings in 1

They have 2 souls

[hasty quarry]

Nope, since the shadow is rather has a small head, not a chunky head. William is Laura remember?

[vague imp]

Yeah

Are we gonna stuck in the souls design?

[hasty quarry]

How could we know that was William, you got to think what would of become of it.

[vague imp]

Would have*

Not would of

Of isn't a verb

[hasty quarry]

Mr. Owl and Harvey been really close friends if you have played the games.

[vague imp]

Yes indeed

I've played them all multiple times

[hasty quarry]

Ohhhhhhh sureeeeeeee now you pick on my grammer.

[vague imp]

And read the lore

Hahaha

Where are you from man ?

I am from Hellas

@hasty quarry

[flint schooner]

Mam teorie i niewiem czy ide w dobrym kierunku rusty like roots że jest ukryty lvl z nowom postaciom o nazwie laura tfierde to poniewasz tfurcy rusty like dali gre darmowom o nazwie Cube Escepe:the Cave tak jest ksienga gdzie jest tajemnicza postać o nazwie Laura w innych darmowych grach tesz sie ona pojawia a co ciekawe morzna wracać do dużych okien i w tym lvlu co skończyłeś tesz morzesz wejść jeszcze ras wienc moim zdaniem musisz stforzyć sygnet w tej gierce dzienki czemu pewnie dohdziesz do poziomu z laurom .

[heady minnow]

Przepraszam, ale chyba na tych ogólnych kanałach należy mówić po angielsku. Dodatkowo, czy mógłby Pan/Pani wyjaśnić dokładniej ten ciąg myślowy? Nieco trudno zrozumieć, co miał Pan(i) na myśli i zwykli ludzie na pewno nie będą w stanie użyć tłumacza, by przetłumaczyć na ich język... Mógłby Pan(i) opisać dokładniej tę teorię? (I włączyć sprawdzanie pisowni w Pana/Pani Discordzie?)

[hasty quarry]

Yeah I was wondering why Kali misspelled a few words.

[hasty quarry]

She really did not die at all, she sort of slipped into coma, almost to the part of where Mr. Owl was really covering up the truth, Laura was never a ghost nor human, just a puppet. If you watch the clues in Seasons,White Door, etc. She hangs from the ceiling on top of that, there is not motion towards her, except for White door.
Of where in the secret ending of White door, we all know what happen.

My old theory is biting me back buwahhaa 😄

[onyx nebula]

Jacob unites with the lake as a fish.

Just a thought, it's metaphorical and he doesnt actually become Mr. Fish but he 'returns to the lake' and dies

Dunno if this helps anything but im leaving this here anyway

[hasty quarry]

That is what I was clearly stating yesterday on here.

@onyx nebula that is what I was stating, that Jackob was the person you can control in Samsara.

[hasty quarry]

Even if William was at the top of the Geneology tree, who was his father?

[onyx nebula]

@onyx nebula that is what I was stating, that Jackob was the person you can control in Samsara.

I need to replay Samsara room thanks for this

[hasty quarry]

🙂

[onyx nebula]

I need to replay Samsara room thanks for this

And good for me i have leftover progress

According to the mirror statements it actually seems possible

[hasty quarry]

I had a gut feeling forever about this, since Paradox was the last game I played before Samsara.

[onyx nebula]

They have 2 souls

I'd like to think its one body one soul

And the player character isn't consistent

With another present hybrid other than Harvey

Whom do you consider a real living person in the story ?

Hm, i've only ever thought that there was real and fake, no unreal things as to me, Birthday shows memories can be changed with the help of other cubes or such

[hasty quarry]

No one, I said that around a few days ago on here.

Maybe Harvey, it is in her mind.

[hasty quarry]

I think when Harvey is a dude, Cube Escape ends right where the 5th game is closed. And she just becomes a girl not for hotel but for 23, paradox, even Samsara room.

[light spoke]

Harvey said trans rights case closed

[hidden ledge]

She hatches eggs

[hasty quarry]

Even if the bird was trans, I was thinking in that part of mind, people can choose to Identify with one another.

[hasty quarry]

Aquatic levels, and the feel for each murder victim, is like a sea full of blood resting unbinding one's own super ego, while fitting into their own society, ergo since there is a challenge in between Vanderbrooms and the other families at hand, do you think they are drowning, since there is no sunshine throughout the series?

[tall kraken]

white door say, that Theatra is before Case 23 (also other)... So Dale know that Bob shoot in his head and than he see Bob in the Police Department...

[hasty quarry]

Headcannon of mine, I put theater in between Roots, like War Hero and in between Where we met Leonard.

[weak patrol]

now we have some sort of time problem with the white door

how did bob shoot himself in theatre in 1971 and showed up at the police station on 1972

[onyx nebula]

He just didnt die

[weak patrol]

Explain his dream sequence in White Door

[hasty quarry]

Well dream sequences are usually better backwards to return in another thing too.

[hasty quarry]

So... Why the hand?

In all the games, there is a hand.

[spice frigate]

they just want to help
so they lend you a hand

[covert wyvern]

A helping hand!

[hasty quarry]

hahaa. The greatest pun of them all, a helping hand.

It looks like Carolines though.

Or a female hand though, anyones though.

[hasty quarry]

Paradox eating the black cubes, while blue cube is chilling with the golden one, in the back of another white cube, caused in the hotel cuuuuubeeeeessss......

😛

[hasty quarry]

Okay in the White Door, they do show Elizabeth singing, but no where else in the game, and just focused on Bob and Laura right? So.. I kind of wanted to put White Door with Theater, like back behind the chronological order.

Even over lasping with both Paradox, the unborn yet to see, and also Hotel too.

There are some clues to Robert, I think he was the shadow we do see in Hotel.

[fleet fractal]

Is Robert the corrupted soul we see through the whole game? and is the party his way of interpreting the actions during The Mill?

[hidden ledge]

dales corupted soul killed laura. the corupted soul in the mill was lauras one

[polar warren]

(kind of a joke theory but) ||what if this server was inside the lake||

[covert wyvern]

|| that is my headcanon, what do you mean. ||

[hasty quarry]

|| Are we really shrimp and eggs all this time, are we afraid to crack open and let the moths connected to our lover's eyes as it becomes blacken?||

[hasty quarry]

William is everyone lol..

😛

[covert wyvern]

God wouldn't that be interesting

[hasty quarry]

hahaa..

Mr. Crow taking care of everything, worlds infamous actor!

[covert wyvern]

I wouldn't mind calling mr crow daddy

[hasty quarry]

hahaa..

Though how did he birthed himself lol.

[hidden ledge]

if someday they don't know what games they should make there is always the possibility for an origin story of mr toad

[hasty quarry]

Mr. Toad and his cray wild adventures.

In Birthday, could that be Dale's drawing behind his mother?

[limber kernel]

+_+

What if all humans that are colorblind are actually seeing the true color of this earth, so meaning that they are not color blind, and everyone that isn't actually is and its just their mind imagining weird shades and colors , to make us think that earth is real. What if like isn't real, all just a big lie, what if when we die we see no god and no hell, could we make a letter in what to do in our next life when we die? and if we ever stumble across that letter but don't remember anything? it would be a big dissapointment- you could keep making letters in each place u are reborn and hide them until u find them in ur next life and so on- just so you could remember u once were that person and now you are not-

Now that i think about it, our milk is a cow's blood

[pure rose]

@limber kernel and this is actually a channel for theories around Rusty Lake universe, its plot and lore 😅

[limber kernel]

buddha yes

wait buddha?

CHINESSE

[pure rose]

Emh not quite?...

[hasty quarry]

Nah. Too late for that theory, already wrote that one several months ago, elsewhere @limber kernel

🙂

[waxen osprey]

Me think dale go cukoo and killed the lady

[hasty quarry]

Paradox already did that, Eye Fly.

[waxen osprey]

Ok

[hasty quarry]

Basically if you played in each game chronologic you can kind of guess what is Laura and Dale is really about.

[waxen osprey]

Whats the chronological order

[hasty quarry]

#📚｜resources <

[vague imp]

Shoot I didn’t know there was a whole thing of lore behind all this .•.

[hasty quarry]

|| The person in the clock of Samsara, started it all with a whisper to an ex cop||

[hidden ledge]

is rusty lake located in the netherlands?

[uneven flicker]

hmmm in the games nations are always not told but...maybe? bcs the game studio is located in the Netherlands?

[covert wyvern]

If it is, I'll go hunt it do for you all!

[uneven flicker]

mental health and fishing?👀🦐

[hidden ledge]

because i heard somewhere that vanderboom is netherlands family name

[covert wyvern]

well, van der boom can be translated to "from the tree"

so yes, yes it is.

[hidden ledge]

ohh

it's like the family tree

wow

because they are all from the family tree

mindblowned

[elder minnow]

Could be Belgium though, but yes NL it is ^^

[hasty quarry]

So, why the massive jump scare all throughout Case 23, was Dale sleeping?

Was he really into a deep slumber after he saw Laura at the ending of Seasons?

[hidden ledge]

Was he really into a deep slumber after he saw Laura at the ending of Seasons?
@hasty quarry seasons isn't really happening in their real world

[atomic mirage]

So I noticed in The White Door, Laura's sketch book has an image of the Vanderboom family tree from Roots, and the name Rose on it.

Just a nifty find, I guess the sketchbook belonged to Laura's mom.

[stone river]

I wonder if there's a meaning behind the bird's name on the white door.. Robin

[vague imp]

The plot twist it that theres no meaning its just a Easter egg and a inside joke

[hasty quarry]

That symbol can also be found in Samsara's book.

|| Roots do connect through Samsara and white door.|| Dale.

And Bob, bar scene.

[hasty quarry]

Also there is a huge spoiler of White Door and Samsara || Shrimp ending||.

[hasty quarry]

Lit. || Cave book image, Laura is the queen of her roots. || @atomic mirage

[hasty quarry]

That day she "died" || Bobby Hill got broken due to of a propane tank - lol... || have a little humor to this.

[hasty quarry]

I think that could be also one of their b-days.

[hasty quarry]

@gusty panther Mine are a bit psychological in here

🙂

[gusty panther]

Okay...

[hasty quarry]

There we go much better word hehe.

[gusty panther]

It’s just the thing, that I can’t be up 24/7 and then combine all of them into a fitting story

[hasty quarry]

The only things left is "Who is Harvey, Who is Mr. Toad, and who is everyone?"

its okay, type away , and just leave and vice versa.

🙂

You can leave your notes in here, return to it any time and just add into more theroies, think of this is like a forum, not a chat.

[eager moss]

All of the dead vanderbooms turn into the animal people in RL: hotel

or vice versa

[hasty quarry]

My question is if they are all reanimated into each other, then how come the boat faces left to right in the opening sequence?

Did Mr. Crow have more then one elixier for them to drink?

[eager moss]

He did poison Mr. Deer with an elixir

or "you" did

[hasty quarry]

Well.. who are we really playing throughout the series?

[eager moss]

I think it varies from game to game

In roots, you're like one of the masters of fate

[hasty quarry]

I honestly think, now if you did not think the souls would be capture, I think you are playing a mirrored version of the souls per game.

Like you're using a butterfly net around yourself.

@gusty panther Do not channel jump and post the same thing . The mods hate that in promotion and feedback.

[atomic mirage]

@gusty panther the rusty lake fan wiki has a pretty thorough page that pieces the lore together. You can start here https://rusty-lake.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline?mobile-app=false

Be warned that there are spoilers from all the game there of course.

[hasty quarry]

@atomic mirage all the urls is in #📚｜resources 🙂

[atomic mirage]

Yeah I figured I'd posted one link that'd be a good start for someone new to the lore so they don't have to skim through a dozen links

[hasty quarry]

🙂

Sounds like you automatically know of the entire Lore, yourself @atomic mirage .

[atomic mirage]

I understand most of it. The timeline page on the wikia explains stuffs pretty thoroughly.

[hasty quarry]

I understand a ton of it, as you can probably see, just scroll up hehee..... I am replaying a lot of games though.

Just wanted them free off my cell before I trade it in, needs a good trade in anyways.

[atomic mirage]

What I still don't know (cause us the player hasn't been told much about it) is the white door's organization's connection to the rusty lake entities.

[hasty quarry]

|| What I just played through of the white door a bit ago, the organization is the same management as Hotel. || Hint the hidden star.

|| there is a major spoiler if you chose egg when you finished the sequence in day six.||

[atomic mirage]

I was under the impression TWD is like a "branch" or front of Rusty Lake away from the lake itself

Or a different entity that sells harvested memories to RL

Yeah I got all the stars and everything

[hasty quarry]

We could be both right, the world is really stumped.

[atomic mirage]

But I didn't see any info that says for certain the connection between TWD & RL but since both have the same "mental health & fishing" schtick they're probably just the same entities except TWD is built more like an actual mental hospital

[hasty quarry]

Here is where it gets seriously intrest. At the end of The Lake, all you see is a White Light and Black Cube, no one really knows what goes through the light, but I think it is the door itself.

Like a gateway to White Door.

[atomic mirage]

Interesting take. I assumed it was something less literal, like the white light represents the "ENLIGHTENMENT" (a state where you're free of your bad past) concept that RL offers their patients

[hasty quarry]

Then it gets really insane, without knowing of the entire "Bob and Laura" deal, with their odd marriage. "That type of honey I am alone but I am going to do my own thing, oh sure I will get the news paper". Bob just kind of wonders throughout itself, and where in the sequence it is really showing a path of like paths of Roots and other games, that appear to be more colorful.

[atomic mirage]

Bob and Laura weren't married though?

[hasty quarry]

Not like married married, but to a point of where they loved each other, they felt it in their hearts.

[atomic mirage]

I'm not understanding you very well sorry ><

[hasty quarry]

aww...no one ever does hahaa.

not like they eloped, or had a ceramony, but dated well enough to know one another.

A metaphorical one.

<-- This person is really intel, but always struggles when the right words does come to fruitation.

Ergo, Laura took the high note, and decided to make a voodoo deal with Mr. Crow, you know the story, and become a protesge gentemlan.

*gentelman.

*gentleman.

@atomic mirage Did I make any perception?

[atomic mirage]

A little lol.

I don't think Laura ever made a deal with Mr Crow

[hasty quarry]

🙂

Sorry it is the way I speak 🙂

[atomic mirage]

That's ok haha

[hasty quarry]

I wish i could take my girlfriend out to somewhere really nice, when this blows over and have a sit down.

:: sighs::

...Anyways yeah I think that Mr. Crow sort of orcastra everything.

He gave the Bloody Mary to Bob, I think Bob was Mr. Deer's twin, there is more then a few Mr. Deer, Dale Deer in Paradox / White door. And somehow he gave Bob the Deer spell.

Eh... Have a nice one @atomic mirage, much friendship love.

[atomic mirage]

👍

[vivid marten]

i feel like mr crow's connection to laura is less of a deal and more of a guardian role like, its clear mr owl wants dale to succeed him, and dale and laura's fates are tied by a "one must live while the other dies" situation, so mr owl wants dale to live and mr crow wants laura, the reincarnation of his brother, to live. but mr crow and mr owl have been working together for so long looking after the lake that at this point, it must be hard for mr crow to go against mr owl's wishes, yknow?

i always assumed mr crow was working on mr owls behalf, since mr owl is the 'ruler of the lake' but mr crow and mr owl both share the goal of a perfect elixir

[hasty quarry]

Okay it sounds like you only played the free games.

Try them all. You will see what I typed in the past, @vivid marten

[vivid marten]

ive played every game

[polar warren]

Yeah he mentioned Laura being William and tgsr doesn't come out in the free ones

Or she?

[vivid marten]

he ^_^

[polar warren]

Oki

[hasty quarry]

hmmm....

Sure I got time.

[vivid marten]

yeah like this theory is directly based off of what mr owl said in paradox chapter 2, and the laura and dale's fates being tied together is in both paradox chapter 2 and iirc the end of cube escape the cave?

[hasty quarry]

That was one of my theories I just typed up, about Mr. Owl speaking about that.

[polar warren]

I haven't played Paradox chapter 2 yet so I might want to tune away now if I don't want spoilers XD

[hasty quarry]

It kept bothering me.

It is worth your money Laura.

[vivid marten]

well these games are a little abstract sometimes so it makes sense that we might come up with different theories about the same thing ^_^

[hasty quarry]

🙂

[polar warren]

There's always different theories

[swift knoll]

white lodge, black lodge, white cube, black cube...
Laura vandermeer, Laura palmer

[hasty quarry]

^ I had Timebomb - by Rancid when I read that Good Doggo lol

[vague imp]

wait i didn't read anything but what is the storyline?

is there one? what is with teh animal people? and whos perspective am i playing the games? there seems to be idfferent for each game

for seasons, i am laura right? but which laura again idek

and then for case 23 obv i am the detective

i forgot his name

and then the next game im one of those animal people

what is the point of rusty lake? why is everyone being killed? why are their memories being stored in cubes?

[hasty quarry]

Start off with Seasons, you are Laura before she got killed the first time.

[vague imp]

and why did laura get killed? btw im on cube escape birthday

[hasty quarry]

You start to wonder off when fishing, in the lake, then you become a better person from that.

Dale is the detective.

Laura's story is best told in Roots.

[vague imp]

aha yeah and is he the guy in birthday game? or is that his yournger self

[hasty quarry]

That is his younger self.

[vague imp]

aha. do laura and dale get killed by the animal peopel?

and why?

for their memories?

their souls beingfed to the lake?

[hasty quarry]

Laura was an illusion to herself duration of Case 23, just a reminder of a passive self duration of Dale, you got me ?

[vague imp]

hmmm yeah

[hasty quarry]

So Laura did not become real until Roots.

[vague imp]

oh my

[hasty quarry]

Whereas she is a person named William, whom was in Samsara, the guy whom fell off the clock.

[vague imp]

she is also william?

[hasty quarry]

And William is brothers with Mr. Crow.

yes.

[vague imp]

wow. i just started getting into this storyline/game so

[hasty quarry]

Here is the real twist, there are other different stories build in Hotel, matched up with Paradise and Roots.

[vague imp]

aha but those are paid right

lol i broke :')

[hasty quarry]

Dale.. hehe.. a funny emo kind of cigar smoking person.

[vague imp]

XD yes he is

why did the rabbit murder dales parents

[hasty quarry]

Well you can just watch the youtubes of each game, without playing them.

[vague imp]

oh true

[hasty quarry]

I think he killed him to show ya know the expression "I have a roof over my head, my pantry is filled, my folks are around, I love my own life.?"

So Mr. Rabbit took out his parents to show him something bigger.

[vague imp]

ahh

[hasty quarry]

Play Birthday to find out about the secret ending 🙂

[vague imp]

ok :)

[vague imp]

wow i just read a whole wiki thing

im shook

i still dont understand a lot

but im shook

[hasty quarry]

It deals out such a horrible burden that no one want to live like that.

[vague imp]

ikr im like 0-0

bruh this poor family

so corrupted souls huh

0-0

[hasty quarry]

Well with Laura..

Backpeddling on Case 23...

She turned into a moth.

[vague imp]

These games are deep

[vague imp]

Maybe these games are based off of jigsaw but with less brutality and more mystery

Because all the people in jigsaw woke up in a room without knowing how they got there and forced to go through different puzzles to get out

[tender talon]

Hey y'all, if anyone is interested in discussing theories they have about the Rusty Lake lore and world, my friend started up a Facebook group for that very thing! He also just publicly opened a discord page breaking down characters, objects/items, each seperate game, and more :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/rustylake.corruptedtheories/?ref=share

The link for the discord is also on the fb page if you want to check it out!

[hasty quarry]

After reading Case 23 ending it is a huge clue to the Dale Deer theory I had.

[atomic mirage]

You know... About mr Rabbit killing Dale's parents... There's pretty strong allusion that Jacob Eilander's family are related to the guests in Hotel. I'm guessing either they're reincarnation of the Eilanders (like Laura is a reincarnation of a Vanderboom) or their distant relatives. And killing families is an Eilander thing :->

[hasty quarry]

I thought of that some time ago, but I wrote my own kind of extra long theory on that, if you do not mind scrolling up a bit 🙂

[hidden ledge]

mr rabbit foreshadowing in hotel || https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cube-escape/images/e/e3/Mr_Rabbit.png/revision/latest?cb=20180929192731 ||

[hasty quarry]

Not really a secret, found that out when I just was playing Hotel a few days ago.

Kind of wonder if both are like brothers, or the same person?

[solid haven]

What is more interesting is that Mr Rabbits room is on the second floor

[hasty quarry]

Yeah I wonder why it is on the second floor...

[polar warren]

So the other Mr rabbit could show off his long legzzz

[hasty quarry]

Question though can the CS change shape?

[polar warren]

🤷

[solid haven]

We've seen various types of corrupted souls though none have necessarily implied they could do that

[hasty quarry]

Actually you do see them change shape through the telescope in roots, and also in the painting in Samsara, they are really giant ergo they draw small.

Giving you clues to the next puzzle.

[polar warren]

Painting? Do you mean mirror?

[hasty quarry]

No I mean the first portal.

Uncut. You do see a painting that is like through a window, maybe that is wallpaper.

[polar warren]

I'm confused