#šŸ¤”ļ½œtheories

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red wave
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Anything else, normal people can see the hotel? because it would be very strange to be strolling in a forest and suddenly a luxurious hotel appears

copper hawk
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yeah, people can see it

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but it is branded as an actual hotel

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so people around it know it's there

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You can even see it as James in the staircase level

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I should start to write my theory of everything pretty quickly

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it'll take so much time...

red wave
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makes a giant PDF with images etc

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as a Hyrule History

copper hawk
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x)

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I have Art and Artefacts

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and it's just gorgeous

solid elm
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Anyone have any thoughts on what the Arles chapter has to do with the entire Cube Escape series ?

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All I can make out from that game is :
1: we are supposed to play as Van Goah
2: the game’s setting is Van Goah’s painting Arles - which is also the painting hung in Laura’s house

thin elk
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Well, for one there's a lot, and I mean, A LOT of references to Van Gogh

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In the future games, that is

solid elm
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Yeah. There are also several references to other famous paintings and painters of the past too

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So were they all involved with the lake or ?

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Was Van Goah haunted by the corrupted soul after he died too ?

copper hawk
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Van Gogh's paintings are all over the place
even in Paradise, Elizabeth cuts Gerald's right ear

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but as to why Van Gogh is important...

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The most we know is that Van Gogh was someone important in Dale's previous lives

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since we use an ear from the Arles painting as a balance of Dale's life

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in Paradox

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that's all we really know

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as to how he was important, I'm not sure

solid elm
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Hmmm interesting. I haven’t played paradox yet. Guess I still have a lot to catch up before getting involved with theories

copper hawk
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it can go from him liking his paintings, as far as being a reincarnation

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but he had a major role in his life

solid elm
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One thing that bugs me is the first game in the cube series

copper hawk
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seasons ?

solid elm
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We are supposed to play as Laura in that game right ?

copper hawk
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yup

solid elm
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And what we are supposed to do is..........resurrection ?

copper hawk
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... no

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there are two ways to look at seasons

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first, as a series of events

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and as a memory being looked at

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I'll focus on the memory part since it is what you are talking about

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the goal of Seasons isn't for Laura to resurrect herself, or to prevent the murder

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because there was no murder

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it was a suicide

solid elm
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Yeah. It was implied to be a suicide

copper hawk
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what she does is gather her memories

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and balance the essence of her past life

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(again, that symbolic is all over the place)

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to just... be at peace with herself

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and btw she didn't kill Harvey to resurrect him

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he was never dead in the first place, it's just a symbol of Laura the player killing Laura the victim, through his imitation of her bloody scream

solid elm
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That’s a good interpretation. So what role do you think the lake played in all of that ?

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Did they steal her memories ?

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Or even worse. Did they drive her to her suicide ?

copper hawk
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no, the suicide has nothing to do with the lake

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but the Lake is... memories

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the Lake is an entity with a conscience

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you can only have a conscience if you have a soul

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and a soul is just the accumulation of your memories

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and we can see there are dozens of cubes in the Lake

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what it does is it "feeds" off of those memories

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to continue expanding its soul

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and by mixing the memories together, create a new being with its own mind

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and it all started with Caroline's soul

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and the "conscience = soul = memory" isn't something I just made up

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it's the most fundamental principle of alchemy

red wave
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and memories are cubes

copper hawk
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a conscience is a soul (sulfur), that soul inherently has a mind, a spirit (mercury), that has thoughts and ideas, that take form in a body (salt)

red wave
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so the series in general tells how the memories (cubes) can be dangerous?

copper hawk
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a conscience is a soul (corruption), that soul inherently has a mind, a spirit (memories), that has thoughts and ideas, that take form in a body (cubes)

solid elm
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So the lake steals memories from its visitors to keep itself alive ?

red wave
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basically Mr Crow and Mr Owl feed the Lake

solid elm
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And what we are supposed to do in Seasons is to get them back from the lake ?

copper hawk
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no

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seasons has NOTHING to do with the lake

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seaons is just Laura's introspection in her own memories, to make peace with herself and her suicide

red wave
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it's always good to remember that Seasons is a closed story

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so there's not much besides what you're playing in that game

copper hawk
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yes it's a closed system

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but that system is obligatory to make her a potential enlightened being

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Same for Dale that has to go through therapy (Paradox)
and confront his traumas (Birthday) and mistakes (Theatre and Bob's suicide)

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to be at peace with his inner self

red wave
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I feel bad for bob, poor thing, he had NOTHING TO SEE WITH THAT EVERYTHING

solid elm
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So in the end

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The lake stole her memories and put them in cubes

copper hawk
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no

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the cubes are the embodiment of memories x)

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the lake has nothing to do with that

red wave
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What did Aldous mean when he told Willian Corpse that they would meet in the future?

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Did he refer to Laura?

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because he has not even spoken to Laura

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I'm sorry if I'm letting anything pass but it's a curiosity.

copper hawk
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he has spoke to Laura

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he called her multiple times

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the phone in Seasons is Aldous' voice

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or at least his voice in his sawed mouth form

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and he met her in Mill too

red wave
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aaah,truth, I had forgotten this detail.

night forge
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@red wave @solid elm The way I think of the Laura timeline: Now that Laura is alive, everything wants to kill her. She resorted into a quiet life in a house with a man named Bob, but with either memory flashes from her previous life, or the ordinary supernatural occurrences of the lake, she believes she is mentally ill. Lo and behold, Rusty Lake is known for mental health. She leaves Bob, and he goes into depression. He soon leaves the house.
Laura and her bird, Harvey (Who somehow got in her possession) move to a cabin on the lake. She puts a bunch of things she found in the lake into a pentagram shape- bad idea. A shadow over takes her. Then… these events happen in some order.

  1. Laura returns home and commits suicide.
  2. Laura washes up on the shore of Rusty Lake. Mr. Owl takes notice, and gives her to Mr. Crow, now retired in a mill. He uses the mill to take out three memories: Blue, Black, and White. Finally, he throws out the ā€œcorpseā€
    3.Laura gets trapped in the lake in a weird machine thingy. She is becoming a shadow creature.
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RED?

red wave
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actually she commit suicide in the lake

night forge
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Oh, that makes things easier

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Then Laura kills herself in the cabin, gets thrown into the lake, and washed up on shore. Mr. Crow takes her memories, then traps her in the machine thingy under the lake

copper hawk
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... that makes... Uh...

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Sense, but not that much

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Especially for specific parts

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Let me just go back home

copper hawk
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Ok, here is the actual Laura timeline

copper hawk
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After being born from Rose, they leave the home to live in another city close by
Rose being the daughter of a psychopath, is a sociopath, and doesn't give much love to Laura since she never received any, and so she becomes depressed
She gets Harvey as a pet, since (s)he was Emma's pet.
She starts dating Bob, which is trying his best to be a good boyfriend and help her in her mental state, but it's not enough.
She breaks up with him and goes to the Rusty Lake mental hospital, after seeing the add Aldous put in the journal for her to find.
She goes there, bringing Harvey with her in a box, and finds an abandoned cabin where she goes fishing to try and forget her problems.
She has a deep crisis that almost makes her kill herself, but Harvey is there to recomfort her.
She flees the cabin without taking the time to bring back the box, and return to her home soon after as the mental health institute seems to not work for her, given she almost attempted suicide.

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Once back home, her mental state doesn't get better. She is more and more depressed and almost paranoid.
She sees death everywhere around her, and finally, in fall 1971, she gives in and slit her own throat.
Dale is called immediately to investigate the scene, as nobody knows what happened.
But at the same time, Aldous, that kept an eye on her ever since she left the Hotel, teleports her corpse to the mill to extract her memories and feed them to the Lake.
But when extracting the memories of her suicide, it corrupts her soul, and she goes on a killing rage, stopped in time by Aldous just before she kills Harvey.
He then takes her to the room at the bottom of the lake to be plugged in the machine as they wait for Dale.
Once Dale plugged as well, the process start.
They both clean their mind of the corruption within them
Dale by going through therapy and accepting his past and his mistakes
And Laura, by revisiting her life and her death, and accepting that she is gone but can still be useful to the lake, helped by the words Aldous told her to calm her down.
And only after that can she balance her life in the cabin of her memory without being attacked by the manifestation of her suicide crisis (symbolised by the code you can only have if you played seasons).

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This is my interpretation, it's not perfect, but I think it's the closest we have right now

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It'd be cool to have a rating in % by the devs on how close I am to the actual timeline

red wave
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im sorry but Laura is a fusion Dale/Harvey

solid elm
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So while investigating Laura’s suicide

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Detective Dale became another victim of the lake

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I suppose ?

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I’m playing Birthday right now and it seems like he’s reliving his past in this game ( though his past now seems to be messed up by the doing of the lake )

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Is that right ?

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@copper hawk

copper hawk
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no, his past was already messed up x)
What the lake does is helping him cope with the massacre by making him kill the killer in his head

solid elm
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O alright. I will finish the game and see if it’s possible then. Thanks

red wave
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WHY Aldous put Willian's corpse in a CLOCK

copper hawk
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WHY NOT ?

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XD

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idk

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I mean

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I know why the devs did it

hollow raptor
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Save funeral expenses

copper hawk
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I don't know why aldous did it

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well...

vague imp
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ngl he just possibly didn't want to bury it..

copper hawk
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that's pretty much the answer to why the devs did it XD @hollow raptor

torn kite
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He probably just wanted to clean his clock and accidentally killed William. ;-)

red wave
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imagine if Samuel put him back when he fixes the clock and he's in the clock so far

copper hawk
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x)

hollow raptor
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Samuel: opens clock
William falls out
Samuel: "Put that thing back where it came from or so help me!"

torn kite
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William: falls on Samuel

red wave
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and then Laura went to sell her house and when she opens the clock to clean it, a body falls on her

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and she meets with herself

hollow raptor
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Laura: "Oh well, my old dead body. Time to kill myself I guess"

torn kite
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Makes perfectly sense in the Rusty lake universe.

red wave
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and if in fact the "mirror" in her watch was actually a representation of William

torn kite
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wtf

red wave
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that is: William was the one who killed her, CONFIRMED

hollow raptor
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Well I mean

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Yeah

red wave
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(I'm joking, for those who do not understand)

torn kite
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Theory: Everyone is actually William.

red wave
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makes sense

hollow raptor
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That's just Predestination with extra steps

torn kite
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yeah

red wave
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Is Laura a metaphor for: no matter what you do, life will always kill you?

vague imp
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pretty much lol

torn kite
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exactly

red wave
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like: she died for an elixir, resurrected, and died again

vague imp
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God i wish that were me rn

torn kite
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lesson: you cant beat death. even if you do, you cant.

copper hawk
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William : dies
Aldous : kills his entire family to bring him back as Laura
Laura : kills herself
Aldous :

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WAY TO GO

torn kite
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lol

red wave
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suhdkdheudjdhdhsjgeejey

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WHOS MR OWL TRUE LOVE?

copper hawk
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he doesn't have one as far as I'm aware

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unless you count Aldous but in my theories they're uncle and nephew so... eeeeeeeeh

red wave
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im talking about the christmas Rusty Lake video

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did you watched?

copper hawk
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oh

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well in that case, it's Dale XD

ivory wadi
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Hello

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(lol)

copper hawk
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there x)

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if you want close ups, just ask

ivory wadi
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So each animal does connect with a person , I was sure about that , amazing

copper hawk
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murders and suicides are a fucking mess

ivory wadi
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Its amazing ehat you've done ! Well done my friend

copper hawk
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^^

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it only took some time and patience

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I also did a full 200 year timeline

ivory wadi
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Insane

copper hawk
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down to the month

ivory wadi
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Harvey is the parrot am I right ?

copper hawk
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yup

ivory wadi
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And you think that it is the pet of emma and laura

copper hawk
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I simplified Harvey killing the guests as killing the category, because the lines were too much of a mess

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it's not a thoery, it's a fact x)

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First, Laura has Harvey and calls him Harvey in Seasons

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(through the post its)

ivory wadi
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Nice catch

copper hawk
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then, Emma uses him/her to send a letter to Frank, and if you click 5 times on him/her when Frank got his letter

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Harvey will dissapear leaving Dale's birth day on the window

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and in Birthday, Dale receives a postcard signed "Harvey"

ivory wadi
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IM SO AMAZED BY ALL THIS 😲

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Have you figured out what "Prozac" means ?šŸ˜‚

copper hawk
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it's just an anti-depressant

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really popular in the 70's in America

ivory wadi
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Hmm that's what I thought , cool

copper hawk
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and it's actually the pill we get in winter

ivory wadi
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Anyways , talk to you another time my friend I am going to sleep its 1:18 am here šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

copper hawk
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ok, good night x)

ivory wadi
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Good night mate

timid cobalt
ivory wadi
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Insane

red wave
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oh F

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thats insane

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so it is confirmed that they are the same person, right?

hollow raptor
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not 100%, but could be very possible

red wave
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my only problem with this theory is that Dale did NOT RECOGNIZE HIM

hollow raptor
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true, that one bothered me, as well

timid cobalt
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it’s also interesting that dale’s hair turns into a crow in the sink. Maybe they are related? who knows. I wish the two old guys didn’t look different! lol

red wave
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I know it's been many years but ... he's identical

timid cobalt
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No from aldous to dales ā€œgrandpaā€ who are both presumably mr. crow but with different appearances

copper hawk
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it's never said whether Dale recognizes him or not

vague imp
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i doubt it

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bcs he fed it to a cat..XD

timid cobalt
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It’s odd dale doesn’t recognize him in the bar

copper hawk
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it's because in the bar, he wasn't actually there

vague imp
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yeah it was his memory or smth

copper hawk
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Aldous wasn't there, just like the show with Mrs. Pheasant and Mr. Owl didn't actually happen

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it's just part of what Aldous, Owl and the Lake want to show to Dale

red wave
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maybe Aldous in theatre is a representation

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like Mr Owl and Mrs Pheasent

copper hawk
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that's literally what I just said

red wave
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this is proven by the fact that Mrs Pheasant at the Theater does not look like Elizabeth at all

copper hawk
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she does, but an Elizabeth that takes care of her appearances since she is a star

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and can change what she looks like, including dying her hair, for a role

red wave
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poor Bob

red wave
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😄

solid elm
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I feel like this is an interesting and fairly accurate take on the cube series. Wdy guys think ?

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Tbh I haven’t thought about how the character we play as in the mill is mr crow. It’s really eye opening

copper hawk
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You have a long way to go XD

night forge
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I've been drawing many Williams in my animation

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And he kind of looks like dale

red wave
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acrually Willian looks like mr Owl

copper hawk
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no .-.

vague imp
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hes not

red wave
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before finishing Roots I thought he was Mr Owl

vague imp
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Jakob/Jakub (idk how you spell his name so correct me if im wrong)

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is Mr.Owl

red wave
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i know he aint

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its just similar

spice frigate
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Jakob is in game
Jakub is like... Polish translation (idk where you got it, that's impressive)

vague imp
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Estonians spell it as Jakub also..XD

spice frigate
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huh... didn't knew XD

copper hawk
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some fucker downvoted the Aldous-Dale theory even though I presented the whole proofs, with images to explain it .-.

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they just don't want their views to be changed I guess

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like at least just move along if you don't like the theory

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but I have proofs

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you have nothing

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so don't you dare downvote me °^°

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I mean come on...

vague imp
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eh its the internet

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people are like that here, i wouldn't take it to heart

copper hawk
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I know I've seen worse

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but just... have some human decency

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It doesn't hurt me

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I just find it pathetic

vague imp
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Eh some people don't change

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ngl

red wave
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i think we need to talk here...

copper hawk
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?

red wave
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It's because yesterday we were talking about theories and I thought it was Off Topic

copper hawk
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oh right

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"yesterday"

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that word doesn't mean anything to me

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"You have to sleep
-I'll sleep tomorrow
-It's already tomorrow !
-It's not tomorrow until I sleep"

red wave
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/:

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i have school so....it was yesterday

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Time is relative

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(/:)/

red wave
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Harvey is Harvey theorie

copper hawk
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Harvey is a Parrot theory

red wave
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Parrot is a Bird Theory

copper hawk
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Lake is Water theory

spice frigate
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Hotel is a building Theory

red wave
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OH NO RED

copper hawk
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?

red wave
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Sorry but this one does not make sense

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Lake is Water??? hahaha

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sorry but it does not have any foundation this theory

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it's the same thing from the theory that Mr Owl is an owl

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He obviously a Tyto javanica stertens

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and the lake is made from H20

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Not water

copper hawk
sudden minnow
night forge
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Is water wet?

copper hawk
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Wet means "that has water on it"
so yes

broken hamlet
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Yes it is

copper hawk
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I never understood how it became an issue

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... or were those the early signs of flatearthers ?...

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were we just blind ?

red wave
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is Lava hot?

thin elk
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No, that would be Dale

vague imp
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Dala=Lava

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????????

thin elk
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He's definitely hot enough to be one

vague imp
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yeah true ngl

red wave
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I was really thinking of gathering all the information we have in a PDF, so the new members of the discord have no doubts

red wave
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with the help of Red or other creators of theories, we could create this PDF

pure plover
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It'd be great to see a unified theory about the story

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Or at least what we know

red wave
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would be very useful

pure plover
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Yup

red wave
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it would be good especially for us not to get lost in the details of the story

pure plover
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I've been playing since the first one came out but not as much as to have a clear idea of what's going on

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Yes, exactly

copper hawk
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My problem with that

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Is that it's gonna take literally weeks to finish

red wave
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yes,will be a hard work

night forge
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heh.

copper hawk
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You basically want to write my Theory of Everything, right ?

red wave
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not me

pure plover
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Ofc

red wave
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somebody

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its an idea

copper hawk
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The problem is that the ToE is A MONSTER

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Because you have to write every little detail from every single game

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And define everything

night forge
copper hawk
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And explain every single sub theory

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By detailing every single proof

night forge
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If you want, you can update it

copper hawk
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And every single connection

pure plover
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The ToE?

red wave
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I can not do it, I'm giving the idea.

copper hawk
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Theory of Everything

pure plover
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Oooh

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Thanks @night forge !!

copper hawk
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Basically the culmination of my years of theorising

pure plover
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I'll read it before bed

night forge
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@pure plover Sure! Made that a while back

red wave
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should also be good to leave extremely complete, every detail of what happens and their respective dates

night forge
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Yes, that would be very nice

copper hawk
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I spent over 2 years on this, so that every single one of my theories could coexist in one single megatheory, the ToE

red wave
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and I THINK our discord is the place that is most advanced about history

copper hawk
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And it works

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In my head, everything works perfectly

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But to wire it down would be the end of me

red wave
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because the reddit that should be the most advanced place is not very well informed (cof ... Harvey is Dale COF COF)

copper hawk
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X)

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There's nothing on the subreddit

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(And let's be real here, I did most of the work, and many people that didn't believe me found out the same thing literally a year and a half after me)

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X)

night forge
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Like the difference between everything we see actually and literally happening versus if we are crazy and the elixir is a hallucagen

red wave
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do you know other creators of theories?, like, I trust you Red, but it's always good to see several sides, maybe it helps to assemble the most complete

pure plover
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Well, see I had no clue Harvey is dale

night forge
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It's just a theory

red wave
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a NONSENSE THEORY

pure plover
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I meant I didn't know it was being discussed lol

night forge
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A GAME TH- ah, you beat me to it

pure plover
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Oh damn a theory video with visuals? Yes

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That's how I retain more information

night forge
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Ehhhhhhhh

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that'd take a while

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I don't think I'd make that

pure plover
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I'm so oblivious to theories and what's actually accepted as the story because I didn't know there was a whole community around rusty lake

night forge
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Have you played all the games?

red wave
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the problem is that there are many chances that Matpat will miss out on some important details

pure plover
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Yes! But I thought i was the obsessive one looking forward to the next game

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I didn't know there was a subreddit or a discord until last year I think? And I found the discord like a week ago

night forge
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So, what's with Dale is Harvey?

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I know it's mainly a joke but is there any evidence?

red wave
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wai,let i search the post

bold owl
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You know what

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If I were Rusty Lake I'd MAKE that theory true

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And rub it on y'all faces

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pls hire me

red wave
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that would be awesome

copper hawk
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Could you don't ? @bold owl

bold owl
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No

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May you shan't

hollow raptor
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please let this theory liven't

night forge
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Let's look at the facts:

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Dale was born in 1930

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He went into the elevator in 1972, making him 41

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We last see Dale heading into the hotel when looking into the future in Hotel

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In 1891, Emma sees a bright flash from the Hotel, then Harvey the parrot lands on the landing

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Mr. Owl then tells Harvey that the cubes are keys to the past and future

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Harvey sends Dale a postcard regarding his birthday, in which he calls himself a freind

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Then, Harvey lives with Laura Vanderbloom

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Harvey also appears in Theater as a part in the show, but isn't necessarily in the show

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Because he could be an actor

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Or the fact that he's in the lake could mean that it's just a way for Dale to process all the memories, in the form of a show

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The only other time we see Harvey and Dale is in paradox, in which they both seem mildly curious and confused

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How about that for evidence?

night forge
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This theory has done been confirmed

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I believe that the Second Maze game won't follow the Rusty Lake storyline

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Then, finally, the new 3D-ish game will be Albert's mind? Or something along those lines

night forge
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All evidence and theory of the story line here:

copper hawk
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@night forge Havey was on Paradise Island in 1796

forest zealot
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I think that seasons supposed to be on how Laura past and future being reflected such as on the other games you have Dale reflecting too. To make things right. Also in theatre Lady of the lake throws out a huge part of the possible plot of cube escape such as the weighing the objects of past and the future and the cubes being extracted.

night forge
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Elaborate, @forest zealot

red wave
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people only have a part of the story that I have doubt (a big doubt) algume can explain to me what happened in the cave and the mill, that part of the story I did not get it right

forest zealot
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The mill is supposed to be Mr crow extracting because if you see the pic . I think that your playing as him

sudden minnow
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The same happens in the cave I think

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You play as mr crow

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/old man

forest zealot
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Yep

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In shows that your playing as him when u look in the mirror

half salmon
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Yes both of these are correct. He talks to mr owl in both as well and mr owl calls him brother I believe. Could be wrong tho

forest zealot
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Probably replay or something

gilded solstice
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Mr Owl and Crow are not brothers! Crow is Aldous Vanderboom, Owl is Jacob Eilander. But yes indeed, both the Cave and the Mill are from Mr. Crow’s perspective, as people mentioned above 😃

forest zealot
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Thx for confirming

red wave
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yes,he aint

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they just friends

forest zealot
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Also but how did they meet tho that's a piece that is missing

gilded solstice
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I saw someone somewhere make a pretty sweet theory (i don’t remember if it was here in this server) that one of the older Eilanders, can’t recall which, mentored the Vanderboom brothers (Aldous & William) due to their similar handwritings. I found that interesting!

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It would connect the families

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But indeed that’s missing from the games themselves as far as I recall

forest zealot
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Yah that sounds intresting

copper hawk
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... I swore to not write in this channel unless called, but you caught my interest, here

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since I have a really similar theory, but it doesn't involve any handwriting

forest zealot
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I know right this is really good theory

red wave
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wow

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this is a good theory

copper hawk
#

So what is it about handwriting ?

forest zealot
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The letters also books and instructions

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Possibly

copper hawk
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and why every time I post theories, half the people say it's trash, yet when people make the same it's really good ? XD

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gotta love the irony

forest zealot
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Omg stop your theory's are good

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And also pma

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Possitive mental additude

copper hawk
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I guess people are just sick of my shits at this point

forest zealot
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No stopp

copper hawk
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I'm not saying my theories are shit

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just that people are sick of me, so they just hate whatever I produce

forest zealot
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I know what your talking about

copper hawk
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some people at least

forest zealot
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Yah

copper hawk
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but like they say
you gotta detach the artist from the art

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anyway

forest zealot
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Yah

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Where did u get that from

copper hawk
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from people trying to listen to MJ music without being called paedo-supporters

forest zealot
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Yah

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That sucks

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Being called ped supporter

red wave
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no Red,we like your theories

forest zealot
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Yah we do like them

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Also you back up evidence that also helps us to understand more

copper hawk
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I mean that's pretty much my whole thought process, I take facts and link them together with other facts or logical speculations

red wave
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including you have today created the most important theories for understanding the plot

copper hawk
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If you don't have anything to back up your claims, then it's just as valid as a fanfiction

forest zealot
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Ok who likes fan fiction

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Just a random question sorry

copper hawk
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And I'm talking about the 50 shades of grey style of fanfiction

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not the actually good ones

forest zealot
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Ok

copper hawk
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there are really good fan works out there

forest zealot
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True

copper hawk
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just as there is really bad stuff x)

forest zealot
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Another true

copper hawk
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you can't say a category is good or bad

forest zealot
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True

copper hawk
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there has to have both in it

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even if it's just one

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or it'll eventually happen

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y'all know about rule 34, but you can't forget rule 35

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x)

forest zealot
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Wait what there was rules

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Well I have hw now

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😬

copper hawk
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you don't know about the rules of the internet ?

bold owl
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Please don't ruin this poor person's innocence

forest zealot
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Oh thought u were talking about server

red wave
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yes

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Lucid is right

copper hawk
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@bold owl Rule 43, man... rule 43

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The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it.

spice frigate
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I think I never ever sighed so much in 2019

copper hawk
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?

bold owl
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mood

forest zealot
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Hey is it bad to date on discord

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Btw

spice frigate
forest zealot
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I'll tell u in cabin

spice frigate
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Actually if you want, you can DM me about it

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It would be a lot better imo

forest zealot
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Ok

gilded solstice
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the question is way back, but anyway: I didn’t make the handwriting theory and as I mentioned it I don’t remember who made it or where I saw it. I could swear it was here but apparently not?

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what I mentioned is all I recall of it

forest zealot
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Yah

gilded solstice
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I also really don’t recall ever seeing anyone call anyone else’s theories trash, just maybe being a bit aggressive over something being wrong sometimes but that’s it

forest zealot
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Ya

copper hawk
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It was mostly a while back

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and it was less of "it's utter trash" and more "it has no value since it's not confirmed"

red wave
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but I think any kind of complete theory has a bit of speculation

gilded solstice
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well yeah, if there isn’t speculation it’s not a theory

forest zealot
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Also don't forget about half baked theories

night forge
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Like Harvey is Dale

onyx nacelle
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how did that one come about in the first place?

night forge
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Loooong story

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But I'll tell you anyways

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(That I made)

forest zealot
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So are u support it

night forge
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YES! Absolutely yes

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As much as I support Lobster donkey and hate mammoths

forest zealot
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It is really interesting

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It could possibly be because what if Dale died in hotel or drinking the elixar like in paradox into Harvey like how Mr Raven and owl is

night forge
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I sincerely apologize for correcting you

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but it's mr. crow

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But... Maybe.

forest zealot
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Sorry was doing double typing and choose the wrong on on go oole choose

night forge
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yeah

forest zealot
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Because in paradox you have red blue and green

night forge
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Well...

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At first I thought Paradox was going to take place in the hotel, because of the wallpaper and all

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But it's STILL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE

forest zealot
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But it is under the lake but also it's under the hotel or near any way

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Could it be

night forge
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In hotel, we look into the future and see Dale going up into the hotel

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So he can't die in Paradox

forest zealot
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Yes that is true that aere the elevator is connected I think

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To the hotel

night forge
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Things I find weird: Three things happen all at once at the bottom of the lake

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Birthday, paradox, and what we see in cave.

forest zealot
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Because that s the only place

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Also during mems

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They are mems

night forge
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How does dale take all that?

forest zealot
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When Dale is traveling

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Well he fixed it

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I think

night forge
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Another thing: How does the elevator leave from the cabin and end up in the hotel?

forest zealot
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Wym show pic pls because I rember in case 23 Dale is taken too cabin by Mr crow by boat when in chapel

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And then your timed too escape

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Then in cave Mr crow goes subbing under the lake

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@night forge

night forge
forest zealot
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That's the hotel

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That's the bottom going too the top

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Such as when going up your going and getting the things and going back to the bottom to Mr crow

night forge
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But he started in the cabin!

forest zealot
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Ok I'm going to watch it again

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Ok let's ask red

night forge
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In cabin, he went into the elevator and went down. When he went back up, he would end up in the hotel

forest zealot
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So go to where in the video u only see the hotel and it will say click ck to continue I see what you mean

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But he probably stay at cabin because it's unjust and he has to go by boat then go down and up to get too the places

night forge
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What I'm saying is, how can the elevator start at two places, and end up in the lake?

manic glade
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Magic elevator

night forge
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Mammoths

forest zealot
#

Wym

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Like start at top and start at bottom

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At the same time

night forge
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The top is in two places tho

manic glade
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Fish pushed the elevator off one track and onto another

forest zealot
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Wait actually I see in case 23 when escaping on quickly from a corrupt

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You break boards down and escape by elevator

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And in paradox you can apparently aalk under the lake

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But I think they're actually on surface

night forge
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Ah, another mystery

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I have to go to bed

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@copper hawk, take over from here (maybe)

forest zealot
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Gn I'm going to bed too so gn

copper hawk
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there is one elevator in the cabin that goes at the bottom of the lake

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and there is one in the hotel that goes in the giant cube

forest zealot
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But what about case

copper hawk
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we actually see in Cave a depiction of Mr. Owl guiding Dale from one elevator to the other

forest zealot
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So it truly is a paradox

copper hawk
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no

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Paradox is in Dale's mind

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because the therapy room is in the forest, which is at the bottom of the lake...

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but if you go far enough you end up in front of the hotel ?

forest zealot
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Yah so it is under

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Ok

copper hawk
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and the therapy room also has the elevator that goes up to the hotel ?

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that doesn't make sense in the real world

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it's all in Dale's mind while he is connected to the machine at the end of Cave

forest zealot
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Yah

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So it's just a transportation thing or something

copper hawk
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?

forest zealot
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So it's in Dale's mind which possibly when the memory started and ended

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IDK anymore

copper hawk
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Paradox is a memory

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just like Birthday and Theatre

forest zealot
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Yah

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But you just randomly appear in the room after cave right

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But he gets to those mems by elevator

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In paradox you don't see elevator

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Only a gate

copper hawk
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no, Cave happened for real
They strapped Dale to the machine
and then Paradox starts inside of Dale's head

forest zealot
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Yes

copper hawk
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and ends when Dale goes up the elevator with the golden cube at the end of both Paradox and Cave

forest zealot
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Was that in chapter two

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In paradox

copper hawk
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secret ending of chapter 2, yes

forest zealot
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Ok

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Which could mean they enlightend Dale

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Also gn

copper hawk
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bye

onyx nacelle
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is it a fact that blue cubes allow for time travel?

manic glade
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Of some kind

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Whether it's actual time travel or simply going back into memories and being able to change them is unclear

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Or maybe something else entirely

onyx nacelle
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they might be used to prevent the creation of black cubes

red wave
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i think the Blue Cubes allow you to change the memories,but not the past because..... "The Past Is Never Dead"

forest zealot
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Well the place that I mostly remember a blue cube is mostly in birthday after Mr rabbit come the blue cube is mostly for going back a second time to fix it and stop him from killing your family and fix the memory

red wave
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but birthday its a memory

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the whole game is a memory

forest zealot
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I know

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Dale was fixing his memory

hollow raptor
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that could actually be true, as both dales parents death and lauras suicide still happened even after they used blue cubes

red wave
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so he used the Blue Cube to CHANGE hes memory,not to change the past

forest zealot
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Yes

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To make his veiw different

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His parents are still dead

red wave
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theres too positions of Birthday in the timeline (made by Red)

hollow raptor
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to cope with trauma, maybe?
after all, RL is a place for mental health
though questionable

red wave
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the event

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and the memory

vague imp
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Well if my family was killed during my birthday i would be rather traumatized

red wave
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The timeline :

1796 : Paradise
1869 - 1888 : Roots
1888 : Arles
1888 - 1893 : Roots
1893 : Hotel
1893 - 1934 : Roots
1939 : Birthday (event)
1964 : Seasons Spring (event)
1969 : The Lake (event)
/ Harvey's box
1971 : -Seasons Summer (event)
-Seasons Fall (event)
-Case 23 Crime scene
1972 : -Case 23 Office
/ Theatre (event)
/ The Mill
/ Seasons (memory) (?)
/ The Lake (memory) (?)
/ Case 23 Chapel
-Case 23 Cabin
-The Cave
/ Paradox (memory)
/ Seasons (memory) (?)
/ The Lake (memory) (?)
-Birthday (memory)
-Theatre (memory)
(RED Timeline)

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  • = happens in the same year as previous
    / = happens relatively at the same time as previous
forest zealot
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The actual birthday happen Ed after Roots I think

onyx nacelle
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so when the lake takes that memory, it makes a white cube and dale lives, other wise it would get another black cube and corrupted to doul to deal with

forest zealot
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Then fixing things when he is in the lake

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The clue is why who sent Mr rabbit tho

red wave
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But I think that the fact that Dale is changing his memories will be a problem, in games we have already seen that we have to deal with the past and not forget it

forest zealot
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Yes

vague imp
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Well you can never really forget traumatic memories

forest zealot
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But like in seasons the time for the clocks

vague imp
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its the human brain working to keep us safe

red wave
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because..... "The Past is Never Dead"

forest zealot
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Yes

red wave
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yes but the cubes are magic

forest zealot
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You can't for get

red wave
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so he tecnically forgot

vague imp
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i think they are just a metaphor

forest zealot
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They could be but they are big thing to the plot

vague imp
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True

red wave
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but Rusty lake has two versions of history, one is metaforics and the other is logic

forest zealot
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Yes

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One is in Dale's mind

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And the other is in real life

vague imp
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Yeah but i doubt that if you try getting over a trauma a black coob appears next to you

hollow raptor
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i don't think dale forgot what really happened to his parents, in paradox we see him still remembering the truth even after he visited the memory in birthday

red wave
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The Red Theory/Timeline its the Logic

vague imp
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He never will thats how life goes with these kinds of events

forest zealot
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Yes

vague imp
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You can move on but you never forget, incase it happens again so you can avoid it

forest zealot
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Yes

red wave
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the theory that Gideon its talking about its the metaforic one

forest zealot
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Wait who had played stranger things

vague imp
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Offtopic sorta

forest zealot
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Sorry

vague imp
red wave
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the Logic one talk about the Story around the Lake
the Metaforic use Filosofy

vague imp
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no no im just saying saying.

forest zealot
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Yes philosophy is big part

vague imp
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Yeah

forest zealot
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Also surrealism

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Such as in the theatre

vague imp
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ngl i have had some dreams that felt like they could be in Rl

forest zealot
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Yah same

vague imp
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..ahahha maybe i should make them into a game series myself

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who knows maybe il be famous

red wave
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but the Logic theory probably its the OficiL

forest zealot
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Cool sounds good a lot people do that and does really good job

red wave
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Oficial*

forest zealot
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Yah

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But then with the new game

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Where is that going to fit

vague imp
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Applying logic to RL is like trying to stick a candy cane to a wall sometimes.

forest zealot
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Yah

vague imp
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And i guess we will find out, i think i remember Rusty Lake saying that they were gonna release it during summer ((mods correct me if im wrong))

forest zealot
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Ok

red wave
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I just do not think they're metaphors because they're not just quoted in memory games (Birthday, Theater, Seasons and Paradox) He also appears in The Mill, so I find it odd that the characters call them cubes

vague imp
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Well what would they call them?

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"Floating square things"

forest zealot
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Well they're like tubes

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To hold the memories

vague imp
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storage containers?

forest zealot
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Yes

red wave
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but it's because you said you thought they were metaphors

vague imp
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I still do,

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i mean black (the color) is normally seen as bad

forest zealot
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Yah I said I think so but was really on it wasnt

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Yes

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Black is a corrupt mem

vague imp
#

i guess this is the ying yang logic also tho..?

forest zealot
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Yes

vague imp
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Even if youre good youre still evil

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and vice versa

forest zealot
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Such as good and bad

vague imp
#

i mean nobody is 100% pure

forest zealot
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Yes

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Every one can be a hint of bad

vague imp
#

True and they can't change that much even if they might wanna

forest zealot
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Yah

vague imp
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Ngl i know its gonna be a unpopular theroy but

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I believe Albert was "good" in some way

forest zealot
#

Yes ahN he was a kid

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His brother and sister aas so mean

vague imp
#

Yeah i think it was childhood trauma, ngl

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it messes you up

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plus his parents gave him wine as a baby

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so

forest zealot
#

And Mr crow was like how lovely the kids are playing something like that

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But also jealousy happened

vague imp
#

Yeah jealousy is something you should never ever let take control

forest zealot
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Whith ida

vague imp
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it destroys you and only you

forest zealot
#

He wasn't able too Mary her

vague imp
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marry* btw

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Mary was his mother

forest zealot
#

Thx

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Sorry

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I know

onyx nacelle
#

here's an interesting question: what was really in the box that dale pulled the gun from in birthday?

vague imp
#

its alright sorry, its a bad habit of mine to correct ppl

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wait box?

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could we get an image

forest zealot
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Possibly an old hand me down watch

vague imp
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hmmm i would say it would be a family heirloom but..

forest zealot
#

In real life from grandpa

vague imp
#

yeah possibly

forest zealot
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Or something from father

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Or family Bible

vague imp
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Don't you all find one thing strange tho?

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Like how were Dales parents okay with him (a 9 year old) walking around with a loaded gun

forest zealot
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They were dead

vague imp
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no but

forest zealot
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And grandpa loaded shot it

vague imp
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oh yeah..XD

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they were

forest zealot
#

At the end

onyx nacelle
#

i might be missing some stuff considering at this point i've only just finished Roots

vague imp
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depends on what games ya played

onyx nacelle
#

still need to play cave, paradise and paradox

vague imp
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ah yeah then its fine if youre confused

onyx nacelle
#

also, random thing i noticed with probably no meaning, one of the newspaper pages in Roots is reversed

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at least the filler text is

vague imp
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really?

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XD i wonder what they even typed there...

onyx nacelle
#

i could only make out the occasional word

vague imp
#

i just picture that "navy seals" copypasta

forest zealot
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What what is it

vague imp
#

sounds like something they would do, not gonna lie

forest zealot
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Yah

onyx nacelle
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its in "the war hero"

vague imp
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yeah ik but like

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could you go back and get us a screenshot of the newspaper?

onyx nacelle
vague imp
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thanks

onyx nacelle
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np

forest zealot
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Yous should reverse it too see what it actually says

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It's kind of hard too see

vague imp
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i gotta enhance first

forest zealot
#

Ok

copper hawk
red wave
#

AAHAHAHAHAH

spice frigate
#

this sounds like another Anime visual story

hollow raptor
#

are they....are they suggesting a high school AU?!

spice frigate
#

Anime Dale - oh no

copper hawk
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not AU, they're suggesting we see Dale's schoolyears

vague imp
#

War flashbacks to animal jam

hollow raptor
#

oh okay
Still...please no

onyx nacelle
#

what cube escape spinoffs?

hollow raptor
#

also the 40ies might not be the best time for a school setting

vague imp
#

I mean AU's exist im sure but

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i thought Dale was homeschooled..

onyx nacelle
#

those are part of the story

copper hawk
#

I mean I guess it could be interesting to know how he got into the police...
but... at this point we don't care... we're in the final arc of the story...
it's not time for backstory anymore...

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(except Mammoths apparently)

hollow raptor
#

i mean i sure would be down for non-main story games that explore background
but
high school

vague imp
#

Rusty Lake dating simulator

hollow raptor
#

okay that one would be for the lolz xD

copper hawk
#

Only as a fangame

vague imp
#

ngl i bet someone already made it...

forest zealot
#

Yeash

copper hawk
#

but in that case, you go full on in it

vague imp
#

you know "nothing is surprising on the internet anymore"

copper hawk
#

you put every single important character

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and you can date them ALL

#

EVEN ALDOUS

forest zealot
#

No stoppp

copper hawk
#

I said a fan game

forest zealot
#

I can see some one do that

hollow raptor
#

I'd totally make that game
But like really cheesy on purpose

copper hawk
#

if you decide to do something crazy, you've got to own it and just full on dive into your crazyness

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otherwise it's just cringe

forest zealot
#

Can some do fan art and turn Dale into anime I just gotta see it

hollow raptor
#

I once had the idea to make a Creepypasta dating simulator where the player has to go through all the clichƩ stuff in fanfiction and every character being overly dramatic and out of character to make fun of Mary Sue stories

#

what kind of anime? šŸ˜›

copper hawk
#

... you mean DDLC ?

forest zealot
#

Yah idk

copper hawk
#

because that's what DDLC is

#

they're clichƩ archetypes, and sometimes go totally out of character because of Monika

hollow raptor
#

well DDLC has their own characters, who are manipulated by Monica to turn mad
but in the case of creepypasta fanfiction these are actually cold blooded killers who look very spooky in canon, but get turned into smoochy muscular hotties who want to get into the panties of Protagonist-kun

forest zealot
#

Yahp

copper hawk
#

oh I see

#

so... more like SCP dating simulator, then

hollow raptor
#

not only creepypasta tho, many fandoms have that weird side where all the young fangirls do this

forest zealot
#

Yah

vague imp
#

oh god scp..

copper hawk
#

there is a Rick roll SCP

#

x)

hollow raptor
#

tru

copper hawk
#

yeah

red wave
#

Dale San

#

Laura senpai

copper hawk
#

Ok, I saw on the sub someone with really good intentions...

#

give a fucked up timeline

#

and I'm triggered

#

but I can't blame the guy

#

So I'm just saying it here so I can pass my nerves

#

Fucked up as in
Roots (1849-1934) takes place before Paradise (1796), and Dale (1930-20XX) is the one you play in Hotel (1893)

#

BUT I CAN'T BLAME HIM BECAUSE HE WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE IN THE FIRST PLACE

#

BLBLBLBLBLblblblblblbl

forest zealot
#

Omg

#

That's like a mental break down there then what was he actually talking about then šŸ˜‚

copper hawk
#

He was giving ideas for a movie trilogy

#

And I always do mental break downs when I talk about Rusty Lake

forest zealot
#

Yah

sudden minnow
#

You should go visit rusty lake

#

I hear they’re good with helping people’s mental health

#

Plus you can go fishing

solid elm
#

So are the people working for the lake supposed to have good or bad intentions ? Or are they just morally grey ?

copper hawk
#

selfish

gilded solstice
#

mmmm

#

i personally think its more of a grey area

copper hawk
#

they don't fucking care for others

#

all they want is the true elixir coughs primera mater / philosopher stone coughs

#

like, Aldous only cares for William because he's been working on the project with him

#

but he doesn't hesitate a single second to kill off 10 of his descendants to bring him back

gilded solstice
#

i agree, it’s just that i have picked up stuff from the game that makes me think it might be a grey area, personally, as i said

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but i’ll keep to myself then, forget i said anything, sorry

copper hawk
#

selfishness is a grey area

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it's neither bad or good

#

its a neutral position that can bring help or destruction

onyx nacelle
#

whose body do you fish up in 'The Lake'

red wave
#

~Bob ross~ Idk

humble drift
#

a former victim???

onyx nacelle
#

i had a thought on the harvey is dale theory with the blue cubes only allowing for the altering of memories theory, but that only works if the blue cibe allows for simultanenious users and allow for the viewing of someone else's memories

night forge
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Go on

onyx nacelle
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say that most of the games are played as memories, Dale and Laura are in the machine to create the gold cube, viewing those memories.

night forge
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right

onyx nacelle
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dale was the catalyst for the creation of the blue cube through his desire to change the events of his 9th birthday,

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maybe both Laura and Dale are Harvey simply viewing the others memory at the same time, or showing it to the other

night forge
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I think RED has a similar theory

copper hawk
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Dale didn't create the blue cube

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Laura created the white and black cube, which is why they're infused with elixir juice

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but Dale has nothing to do with the blue cube except he used it at some point

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but Laura too

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the cube of winter is not black like the others

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it's blue

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and it's because of this blue cube that we're able to change the past of the memories

vague imp
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and she gave him the blue cube in birthday??

copper hawk
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sort of

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in Birthday you're going up the elevator

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so it's after the machine

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which means he had some connexion with Laura, and it maybe still is there

left stone
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This group is have 1000iq

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I'm so confuse

red wave
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10000000 iq

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we understant Rick And Morty

thin elk
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1 iq
I sometimes remember to breathe

left stone
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Lol

copper hawk
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I wish I would get to level infinite iq :
"I understand what role Van Gogh plays in the series"

red wave
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yes

forest zealot
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What is it

eager breach
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good thing Arles was a great game!

floral cloak
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What was his role?

vague imp
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I mean his ear did appear in Paradox, so we all wanna know

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"why?"

floral cloak
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"It can't be all coincidence too many things are evident"
Quoting some lyrics to a song there

forest zealot
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I think because he had corrupted mems and he has been too the cabin before or something idk

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@copper hawk

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What is it

copper hawk
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I said

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"I wish I knew"

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Which means

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"I don't know"

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@forest zealot

red wave
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I think arles is just a tip to say "Van Gogh exists in this universe" and will be used in future games

night forge
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He's in league with bob ross

copper hawk
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but in that case why link him to corruption ?

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why link his (potential) suicide to his craziness, just like Laura and her depression, in the form of a lurking shadow ?

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it doesn't make sense, he HAS to have a connection somewhere

red wave
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I think this will be explained in the future.

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Van gogh was confirmed to be part of the RL universe, perhaps its importance in history will be revealed in the future

copper hawk
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we have very little time for it to be explained

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we're in the final arc of Cube Escape

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But you seem to forget that Van Gogh is literally everywhere in these games

red wave
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but we still have the Second maze

copper hawk
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and he even is part of the balance of the lives of multiple characters

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I don't think Second Maze is related to Cube Escape

red wave
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just to remind me, the corrupted soul appears in paradise?

copper hawk
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Rusty Lake, sure, but not Cube Escape

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there is the soul of Caroline

red wave
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I think it's funny how he's the only part of the story that we know absolutely nothing about

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like, we have some loose theories but they do not lead to anything

copper hawk
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ikr

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the weirdest in the series is the most normal thing in the real world

red wave
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perhaps it is the key to history in the future

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I want to believe that he is important, if he was not cannon he would not appear in almost every game

copper hawk
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he even is in Paradise

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and it was long before he was born

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to put it in perspective

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Vincent Van Gogh's grandfather

red wave
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At what point does it appear?

copper hawk
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Called Vincent Van Gogh

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was born 7 years before Paradise

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and they still managed to put a Van Gogh reference in it

red wave
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why everyone in the Van Gogh family was called Van Gogh? WTF

copper hawk
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remember when Elizabeth gives a haircut to Gerald

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and cuts his ear off

red wave
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aah,yes

copper hawk
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and then the ear is used as an object in a very similar way than the balance of the past lives

red wave
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but ok, this is tolerable because in the universe RL these coincidences exist

copper hawk
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they managed to put a Van Gogh reference when his GRANDPA was only 7

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like...

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gg RL

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you win this round

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sure

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but

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Van Gogh's ear is also used as a balance item

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in Paradox

copper hawk
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

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that's new

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before, 133 was a teaser for the comic book

hollow raptor
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huh, interesting

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so is that a hint for an easter egg or something?
or just a random pic of the puzzle? šŸ˜›

copper hawk
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I'll try to arrange the pieces in this way

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but I think we have to have the comic book to truely crack the secret

vague imp
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huh?

copper hawk
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maybe even the limited edition

vague imp
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something new?

hollow raptor
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aw nuts

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now i regret not buying the limited edition

vague imp
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hmmmm

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...i wonder what did i even buy lol?

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ah limited.nice

copper hawk
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ugh... someone has the code for the tape ?

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I'm too lazy to do it all over again

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I just want to make sure the is nothing else

vague imp
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i think we gotta wait for the update tbh

copper hawk
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or i can just watch the walkthrough

vague imp
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its not working

manic glade
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The limited edition, as far as I heard, is the normal edition with a super fancy cover

vague imp
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it has a cool poster tho..XD

manic glade
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Yes that’s the super fancy cover šŸ˜›

vague imp
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exactly

manic glade
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Oh I bought it, don’t get me wrong. It’s quite cool

vague imp
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i gotta get a photo frame for it now XD

copper hawk
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...

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I looked at 133

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and it's still the comic teaser for me

vague imp
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lmao?

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did you update it.Aka redownload

copper hawk
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ugh...

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it could just be an edit, as well

vague imp
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perhaps

copper hawk
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it's not that hard, the videos are just 50% transparency over the actual tv layout

vague imp
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i have a theory

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RL posted this themselves to bamboozle us

hollow raptor
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heccin bamboozled

copper hawk
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I'll re dl it just to be sure

vague imp
copper hawk
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nope, it's still a comic teaser

vague imp
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XD hmmm

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shady

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unless gasp what if its a person from a alternative universe

copper hawk
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the OP is the same as the one with the image

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ok so we'll try in chapter 2

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it better work

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nope

vague imp
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bamboozle..XD

copper hawk
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but the other guy

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said it worked

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hnnnn

vague imp
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maybe hes in on it?

floral cloak
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Maybe they guy is imagining?

vague imp
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when were the two accounts made?

copper hawk
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hohohoho

vague imp
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They could be throw aways

copper hawk
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the one responding is over 6 years old

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but the OP was created today

vague imp
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OP sounds like a throw away..?

floral cloak
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It says it was 2 hrs ago