#🤔｜theories | Rusty Lake | Page 68

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 7:45 PM

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yeah

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he tried to kill himself

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emphasis on tried

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and after the attempt, surely stoped by dale, it helped him to "open his mind to Dale"

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quite literally in the modified version

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I mean, he is accused of murder, and I think that he really was the killer

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sooo

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suicide attempt isn't all that farfetched

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:49 PM

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He is BOB, eager for fun. He wears a smile, everyone run

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 7:50 PM

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is this a reference ?

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Mr Owl '' Welcome to the theatre of your mind''

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So theatre takes place inside Dale's brain

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Yeah, don't tell me you've never watched Twin Peaks?

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 7:52 PM

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nope... there are a lot of movies i never watched, actually

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:52 PM

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I tried to watch season 3

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but it was too slow for me

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Oh it's a series... That's how bad my pop culture is...

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Oh my

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You mean you haven't seen the show that Rusty Lake is heavily heavily inspired by?

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Wat ?

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I didn't know that

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:53 PM

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You must fix this immediately

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It's about the death of the blonde woman

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Named Laura

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:53 PM

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no only videos explaining the story of twin Peaks

honest magnet Jul 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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ooh looks like I popped in at the perfect time

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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yeah I know

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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And the FBI agent who comes to investigate

honest magnet Jul 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Twin Peaks is great

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Named Dale

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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@honest magnet have watched every single episode?

honest magnet Jul 1, 2018, 7:55 PM

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yep

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Tim knows more about it than I do though

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:55 PM

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TWIN PEAKS

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:55 PM

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btw in season 3 there was a black cube was that a thing before season 3?

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Nope

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"Creators of the praised Cube Escape series and the premium point-and-click adventures Rusty Lake Hotel and award-winning Rusty Lake: Roots. Rusty Lake is an indie game studio, based in Amsterdam. Since spring 2015 we develop surrealistic adventure games that take place in the Rusty Lake universe. The studio consists of two people: Robin and Maarten. Inspired by the humor and uneasiness of David Lynch's TV series Twin Peaks we decided to create our own imaginative world called Rusty Lake."

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:55 PM

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so Twin Peaks is copying RL

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:55 PM

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No 😛

honest magnet Jul 1, 2018, 7:56 PM

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clearly Lynch ripped off Rusty Lake

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:56 PM

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I'd be shocked if Lynch had ever heard of Rusty Lake

honest magnet Jul 1, 2018, 7:56 PM

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lol

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:56 PM

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He barely seems to understand how Twitter works

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:56 PM

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you never know

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he might googled Twin peaks and RL poped up

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:57 PM

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The owls are not what they seem

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I have just googled twin peaks

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Rusty Lake did not pop up 😛

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 7:57 PM

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yeah I know that 's from TP

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 7:58 PM

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And even if he does know about it, it would be an homage

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Much like everything Rusty Lake does that references Twin Peaks is an homage, and not a "copy" 😛

honest magnet Jul 1, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I also think that Cube Escape Theater may have been lightly influenced by the Club Silencio scene in Mulholland Drive

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:00 PM

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Siiiiiiiilencio

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:03 PM

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So bc you two know a lot about TP

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what can you tell us about the RL storyline?

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like who killed Laura?

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Oh basically nothing. They were inspired by the feel of Twin Peaks but they created their own world

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Though in Twin Peaks Laura was killed by BOB who is a spirit that inhabits people

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Also in season 3 it shows that Laura is alive

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Well

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Ish

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Which happens in Season too

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Getting into any more would be spoilers, I'm afraid

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:06 PM

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I don't I will ever sit down and watch every episode

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Comes back from a summary of twin peaks S1&2
"The owls are not what they seem"
Huh... sounds familiar .-.

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:06 PM

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It's not for everyone, but hopefully/possibly some people here will

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:06 PM

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oh ok i understand

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Considering the impact the tv show had both on the world at large and the creators of Rusty Lake in particular I think they would prefer if I didn't ruin the experience of the show for anyone who hasn't had the chance to see it yet

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:08 PM

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yes I agree

manic glade Jul 1, 2018, 8:09 PM

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But suffice it to say they were inspired by the feeling and tone of the show, and put references throughout their games, but they don't seem to be taking story elements by any means

rustic coral Jul 1, 2018, 8:13 PM

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@copper hawk are you still here?

copper hawk Jul 1, 2018, 8:26 PM

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yup

fallen pollen Jul 3, 2018, 2:57 PM

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Love love love these games!
I have to ask though, is the name Rusty Lake (and surrealistic nature of the lake) an homage to the Red Lodge? 😃

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:00 PM

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It's a... an interesting question, and I have my own theory on what lake the Lake was inspired of, but sadly, when I asked them...

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So, I guess... Maybe ?... But don't count on it

fallen pollen Jul 3, 2018, 3:10 PM

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Ah, I thought maybe it was because it is the same initial and rust has a lot of red in it - but fair enough!
Fun fact, there are actually a couple of Rusty Lakes in Canada, we have too many lakes and not enough names

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:11 PM

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I found a lake named Rusty Lake with the exact same map (rotated 180°) down to the placement of mountains, hills and forests, and they denied it, so... Meh...

fallen pollen Jul 3, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Oh, shoot, I had it wrong, it's actually the black lodge and the red room facepalm
However, another fun fact, there is also a Twin Peaks inspired"Black Lodge" in Canada
http://www.blacklodgerestaurant.com/#welcome-1

The Black Lodge

We do Take out orders!

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:22 PM

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TWIN PEAKS

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Yes, black and white lodges

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And a red room

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And yes Rusty Lake is a very big homage to Twin Peaks

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:22 PM

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black and white, you say ?

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:22 PM

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Yes

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:23 PM

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like the giant cube at the bottom of the Lake ?

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:23 PM

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I mean....

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They have the same color

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:24 PM

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Not exactly, the Lodges in TP are much bigger and more like planes of existence

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:24 PM

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huh

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I mean the bottom of the Lake is a plane of existence of it's own, let's be honnest here

fallen pollen Jul 3, 2018, 3:25 PM

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Also the corrupted souls speak the way people do in the red room, which is why I thought the lake could be an homage to the room

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:26 PM

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Sort of

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Well yes, they were heavily inspired by Rusty Lake

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And that backwards-like talking is most likely inspired by that

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:30 PM

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Well that and there's an investigator in both Twin Peaks and Rusty Lake, both named dale.

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:30 PM

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We still haven’t had a small dancing person, we need that at some point

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Oh there’s tons of references

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Girl who dies is named Laura

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“The Owls are not what they seem”

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Someone named Bob is involved

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:31 PM

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And in both case, it's the killer possessed

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Yeah, that's not subtle at all hehe

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Headcannon: Bob sells shoes.

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Heh

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Wat ? XD

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Bob sells shoes and boots and keeps stock with him on his travels.

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:32 PM

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That’s Mike

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Mike sold shoes

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:32 PM

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Oh, did I mix that up?

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:32 PM

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Heheh

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:32 PM

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Or rather the person he possesses does

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BOB is spoilers

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:33 PM

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There are also references to a few other surreal things, I've noticed

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Like this Renee Margritte painting

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copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Or the whole cult with human and animal masks...
Just saying...

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Oh, well. That's kinda cool.

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:36 PM

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I'm not sure if this is a commonly known painting or not, I just had the feeling it was some kind of reference and googled fish with legs painting lol

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Magritte is a well known painter... But he's not famous for this one .-.

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Is it a stretch to say it's linked ?

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I mean, it's also a Magritte

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Ok, THIS is literally Harvey's box (still a Magritte)

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shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Non interesting fact: Magritte is from Belgium...kinda close to Amsterdam...

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Well, now I have to find out how the hell does TWO PAINTERS fit in this story

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THANK YOU

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xD

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Yeah I think Harvey's Box was particularly inspired by Margritte

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Oh whoops

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:43 PM

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It's interesting, because all of those paintings are not the ones he is famous for

fallen pollen Jul 3, 2018, 3:43 PM

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It’s possible they just find the work inspiring , just like how Van Gogh is from Amsterdam

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:44 PM

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So this is kind of a letdown for me. Harvey's box is my favorite one, and it's not particularly original.

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Well shit

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shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:46 PM

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Broken door with a tree outside...
Birthday ?... Or am I going too far ?..

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shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Nope, if you can keep going, please do.

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:48 PM

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He has an obsession with 5 objects

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:49 PM

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And those would be?

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:49 PM

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uh... I don't recall how to say it in english...

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uuuh...

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:49 PM

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How do you say it in your language?

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Une pipe

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(french)

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:51 PM

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I think that’s just a pipe

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:52 PM

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oh ok

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Like the kind you smoke

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Well

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Yeah, that thing

manic glade Jul 3, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Yeah, we call that a pipe too

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Pipes, apples, glasses of wine, and more interestingly, fishes and birds

shy pecan Jul 3, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Oh, like the treachery of images?

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Yes

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:56 PM

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He also likes men in trench coats and bowler hats, often with one of those things blocking their faces if I remember correctly

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copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 3:58 PM

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And the whole idea of "is what is shown really there ?"
Mostly by blocking a portrait with an object or landscape with the painting of what is blocked. You don't know for sure if what is drawn on the painting really is behind it.

honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Yeah

copper hawk Jul 3, 2018, 4:01 PM

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And also naked women

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lots and lots of naked women

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Huh, that's a cool painting .-.

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I'm not really finding much more...

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except maybe this where it's from a cave, but... That's a pretty lose connection...

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Woah, I spoke too soon

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Legged fishes on the right

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It's not the original painting, it's a montage, but still

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Out of all the birds he paints...
the most of them are pigeons, crows, and owls

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CUBES !!!

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Ah, found the original

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The shapes in this one are the same than the mini matching game of the alchemists in The Cave

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honest magnet Jul 3, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Thinking it over, it seems like the Cube Escape games make a lot more of these visual references while the premium games mostly stick to their own imagery

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But I'm just going off memory

manic glade Jul 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

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So I don’t know if this has already been mentioned or not, but here’s the Rusty Lake people mentioning the game Paradox as “the second chapter”

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So that’s something

copper hawk Jul 5, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Yeah, the second chapter of Paradox...
Which means that "Mr. Owls office" is just chapter 1, just like Spring 1968 in Seasons or Investigation in Case 23.
And there's a second chapter somewhere (probably 4, considering we always have 4 chapters, in the Cube Escapes)
Now, I have a hard time understanding how they would sell the game in different chapters .-.

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Or... Maybe chapter 1 is the film ?

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Idk, I'm just throwing out ideas, and see what sticks

manic glade Jul 5, 2018, 11:43 AM

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I was thinking chapter 1 is the film 😛

rustic coral Jul 5, 2018, 1:33 PM

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i think thy have mentioned that there will be two levels in the game

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one that is free and one that you have to pay to play

copper hawk Jul 5, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Huh .-.
Interesting

manic glade Jul 5, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Ah yes, yeah that’s it

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I completely forgot about that bit

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And of course the game and the movie presumably represent the “two different universes” the detective needs to escape

shy pecan Jul 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Maybe someone mentioned this before, but another thing I noticed. In Paradise the first thing you do with your father is bring him blood to drink. In Hotel, the first thing Mr. Deer asks for is a bloody Mary. Then in Roots the first thing you feed Albert is red wine.

copper hawk Jul 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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And we know Nicholas and Mr. Deer are the same...
And Albert somehow inherits Mr. Deer's deer skull (not his own skull, the one in his room)
And you give Bob a Bloody Mary and all sorts of cocktails in Theatre and this connexions are getting weird...

shy pecan Jul 27, 2018, 3:17 PM

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Come to think about it, how did Bob get to the theater anyway?

copper hawk Jul 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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The theatre is a memory of Dale interviewing Bob because he was accused of the murder, but at that point the lake already messed up quite badly with his mind, so...
Yeah, I think that Mr. Crow, Mr. Owl and Mrs. Pheasant weren't actually in the theatre...

shy pecan Jul 27, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I'm not sure I 100% agree with his memory being messed up, but maybe while he was in that room at the bottom of the lake he was thinking about or dreaming about interviewing Bob.

copper hawk Jul 27, 2018, 3:28 PM

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I'm not sure, I think it's based on a memory of the interview while at a theatre bar
Because we know it's a memory, we enter a cube just like in birthday or Seasons that call them just that... memories

shy pecan Jul 27, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Oh, what do you suppose the memories from the lake were the theater acts? The act with Harvey might be Laura thinking, like she has to remember to feed him.

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Yeah, I had to double check, but I see now that he's already ascending at the beginning of the game.

copper hawk Jul 27, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Let's se...
First act is Mr. Pheasant's memory, trying to balance her past life as Elizabeth
The second act is just a part of "hell" getting inside i think ?
The third I agree with you, Laura's memory
The fourth... uh... Mr. Crow ? .-.
The fifth is part of the interview, Bob explaining what she was like based on the photo
The sixth is Dale's memories getting messed up by the lake

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I think

glossy gazelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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i don't get what caroline & elias being associated with owls have to do with william vanderboom, who is literally mr. owl

distant mirage Jul 30, 2018, 6:20 PM

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William isn't Mr Owl

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I forget which brother is which rn, but one of them is Mr Crow and the other is dead/the primary corrupted soul/gets reincarnated as Laura

glossy gazelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:24 PM

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who's the guy in the cave, then?

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it looked kind of like william with no hair

shy pecan Jul 30, 2018, 6:28 PM

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The man in Cave is Jakob Eilander.

glossy gazelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:29 PM

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interesting

manic glade Jul 30, 2018, 6:35 PM

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William is reincarnated, the other one is Crow

distant mirage Jul 30, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Aldous

copper hawk Aug 6, 2018, 11:28 AM

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Ok, so game x film working together in parallel universes confirmed by the trailer

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yay

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this'll be interesting

sharp shell Aug 6, 2018, 11:28 AM

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yup

shy pecan Aug 6, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Where do you find the trailer?

copper hawk Aug 6, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Twitter

spice frigate Aug 6, 2018, 12:28 PM

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it's on youtube, on their channel

copper hawk Aug 6, 2018, 12:29 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9fdG2KM97Y

YouTube

Rusty Lake

Paradox: A Rusty Lake Film | Official Trailer

When the infamous detective Dale Vandermeer wakes up in an ominous room without any recollection of his past, he soon finds himself part of a bizarre game or...

▶ Play video

shy pecan Aug 6, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Oh, thank you!

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Oh boy, that sends chills down my spine.

copper hawk Aug 6, 2018, 12:32 PM

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hehe~

spring spear Aug 7, 2018, 4:33 AM

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now thats hype

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 11:59 AM

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From the email accompanying the trailer: “When the infamous detective Dale Vandermeer wakes up in an ominous room without any recollection of his past, he soon finds himself part of a bizarre game orchestrated by an old foe as he must solve increasingly challenging puzzles to escape the room and recover his memories.”

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It’s interesting, particularly the “old foe” part

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Who could that be?

copper hawk Aug 7, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Well, the voice in the video is clearly Mr. Owl...

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 12:00 PM

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Is it?

copper hawk Aug 7, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Yeah, I think it is

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 12:01 PM

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The cast list under the trailer says this:

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“David Bowles as Dale Vandermeer
Elena Kejvalová as Laura Vanderboom
Bob Rafferty as the voice of Mr. Crow”

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And that’s it

copper hawk Aug 7, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Huuuuh... So it must be Crow

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Bob Rafferty of course being the voice of several characters, including Mr. Owl but also Mr. Crow

copper hawk Aug 7, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Ok, so it's Mr. Crow

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 12:02 PM

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But of course either way have they become “an old foe”?

copper hawk Aug 7, 2018, 12:02 PM

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I just missheard the voice, and without a character it's kinda hard

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 12:02 PM

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That’s what I’m thinking about

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You hear Mr. Owl’s normal voice more, Crow’s is usually jumbled so it’s not an unreasonable conclusion

copper hawk Aug 7, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Well... The film universe is different than the games, as we can see both in the trailer and in a picture they posted on twitter

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and knowing that the sacrifices were'nt used in the film, it's not hard to believe that Dale and Crow could be enemies in this reality

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After all, Dale only first helped him to close Laura's case, and then just worked with him

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But what if they met in a different way, or if Dale refused the first time ? Or even just if Crow wasn't as nice as he is...

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Then it would all be different...

manic glade Aug 7, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Hm

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Does anybody noticed that Mr crow had a cube on his forehead when he’s human?

plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Yeah I haven’t seen it anywhere else thougj

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Just case 23

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Odd

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:13 PM

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There s probably a reason

plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Yeah

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I think it would be great if you found out the signature on Laura’s prescription turned out to be mr crows or something

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Laura’s prescription?

plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Yeah for Prozac

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One sec

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Ah, it’s pretty indistinct

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:16 PM

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Ah ok, that

plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:17 PM

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Still it would be wierd if me crow was giving the pills and he put something in them

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And that’s what caused everything

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I don’t know 😑

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:18 PM

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Maybe, maybe

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:18 PM

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Can't be more distinct than that

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plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:18 PM

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True 😂

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:19 PM

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10 mg...

plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:19 PM

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Prozac is an antidepressant right?

spice frigate Aug 8, 2018, 3:19 PM

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yep

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:19 PM

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Yup

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:20 PM

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Yup

spice frigate Aug 8, 2018, 3:20 PM

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10mg is usually for a start as long as I remember, but I might be wrong

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:20 PM

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10 mg is the size of a single capsule

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:20 PM

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On that one, Mr crow maybe isnt the one who gave her the prescription

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She s just... depressive

plucky swallow Aug 8, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Most likely yeah

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:22 PM

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Prozac is used to cure
depression, bulimia, and OCD

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Well "cure"...

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Help reduce the effects...

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It can cause
skips the physical side effects
insomnia, nausea, and intensive stress

shadow stump Aug 8, 2018, 3:25 PM

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Do you realize that we went from « mr crow have a cube on his forehead » to « Mmm... what does prozac do? »

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:27 PM

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If mixed with other drugs, it can cause
serious agitation, confusion, and a general lack of control of your muscles, from shaking to spasms

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I'm really curious to know what's written on the note, though...

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With a bit of pixel analysis...

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Ok, I can definitely see that it's written SOMETHING and not some kind of Lorem ipsum, just because of "Signature"

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It's so blurry...

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Argh

shy pecan Aug 8, 2018, 3:33 PM

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It's probably nothing.

copper hawk Aug 8, 2018, 3:34 PM

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"Medical prescription"

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On the first line

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it's written something

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I can see words

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Last word of the top is "drugs"

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Maybe if I play it on cubeescape.com it'll be better...

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Yeah, no, still the same...

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It's worse, actually, i can't zoom s close as before

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The best possible shot I can have, the pixels are aligned to have the less blur possible

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No...

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It's not
"Medical prescription"...

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it's
"Mr.Owl's prescription" !

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I knew there was something here

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"Info ... medical choices" ?

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It's really hard to read...

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I'll see if I can find the original sprite...

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And, I can't...

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Guess I'll have to do it the hard way...

rustic coral Aug 9, 2018, 12:58 PM

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please try to get a better look!

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:37 PM

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So is Harvey a boy or a girl 🤔

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A birb

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:38 PM

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I personally think Harvery is a female, since she is capable in laying eggs
But a male bird laying eggs wouldn't be the weirdest thing in the RL universe, on the other hand

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Yes

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:39 PM

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But in hotel u see harvey looking pretty male to me

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:39 PM

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true

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transbird

flint ember Aug 16, 2018, 4:39 PM

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@vague imp this is proof in his humanoid form

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Harvey is just...Harvey...

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Harvey more powerful then mr owl

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:40 PM

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harvey is the one true god

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:40 PM

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We do know Harvey is older than Mr. Owl

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Or at least was an animal first

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:41 PM

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true...

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:41 PM

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Yes cos we can see Harvey in paradise

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:42 PM

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But we are proof of some kind of owl god thing in paradise too...

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:42 PM

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Was the cure u make in paradise the elixir

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:42 PM

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Yes

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Wait, what do you mean?

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

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it was some kind of elixir, but it is unknown if it is the same elixir as in Roots

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

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I feel like it is

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Its the same color

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Do you mean the cure in the Plague doctor level?

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Yes

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Oh

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No, I don’t think so

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

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no the cure is not the elixir

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Ok

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

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I mean, usually the elixir takes a lot more effort to make then just a few bodily fluids 😛

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Some snot

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Needed

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:45 PM

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The elixir takes ALL the sacrifices

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Does it?

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How did James make it

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Depends a bit on your interpretation, but essentially through his mom’s memories it seems

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:46 PM

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no that's jacob

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Oh, duh, my apologies

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Lol

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

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James has his uncle’s stuff to work with

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

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But not all sacrifices right?

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Creepy uncle serial killer

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

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I wish i knew what ~ x x o ment

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

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You guys think Laura remembers her previous life?

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

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I think she started to remember. Or get glances

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

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Well no, but remember that the sacrifices in that game weren’t (or weren’t just) for the elixir, they were to reincarnate William

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

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No i dont think so

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

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That’s why she ended up killing herself

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Or o e of the reasons

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I always thought bob killed her

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

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No in Cave it was shown to be suicide

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

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But her killing her self seems true too

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I think her previous life caused the hallucinations that resulted in her death

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

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True

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:50 PM

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Nope, bob killed himself after Laura broke things off and died

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Does anyone have any ideas about wtf was going on in the Birthday game?!? Like, that rabbit dude is terrifying

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Isnt the rabbit the skinny brother from paradise

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:52 PM

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It was a memory of Dale, which he managed to change during his mind travelling
But I don't know if the white rabbit and Mr Rabbit are the same, since the white one can be seen while Mr Rabbit is still alive

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:52 PM

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O yea

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:53 PM

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I don't think the animal people from Hotel are the family from Paradise, except Mr Owl

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:53 PM

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U do see another rabbit in the mr rabbits room

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:53 PM

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yeah

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Idk the whole boar thing sold me

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:54 PM

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I thought Albert was the devil and was represented by creepy skull with horns

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Albert sure was one creepy dude

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Albert the best leave him alone

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Still can’t get over the lab scene where he “made” rose

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😱😱😱😱

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:55 PM

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#GiveAlbertTheButterfly

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Solved all of roots problems

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O yea the lab part was funny

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:55 PM

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#ButterflyWon’tFixCrazy #FeedAlbertMilkNotWine

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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I always wondered...after the murder of Samuel and Ida, and Marys death, Albert lived alone with Leonard and Rose until Leonard left to join the army
Did Leonard ever wonder where Rose came from?
Like, one evening, Albert suddenly showed up with a baby who he claimed was his child?

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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LOL

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Wine

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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Was it wine or blood, I forget

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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Wine

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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it was wine

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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It was a different time back then

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People just showed up with babies sometimes

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Ok guys nice talk back to work for me

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:57 PM

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true, true...

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:57 PM

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NOT DIFFERENT ENOUGH TO FEED YOUR NEWBORN WINE GODDAMN EMMA

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@vague imp have fun at work

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

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it was mary, but yeah, why would you feed your baby alcohol?

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Oh...I meant Mary. Emma would have been a good mom...poor Frank....

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

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"Uncle whered you get this kid"
"NoNe Of YoUr bUsInEss!"

spice frigate Aug 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

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"From the trash" ok no

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

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😂😂

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

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"Uncle you are unmarried, who is the mother?"
"IDA-n't know, kiddo!"
'uncle pls"

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Albert puts in creepy mask don’t ask questions kids

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:00 PM

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i love how this went from a serious discussion to "ahahahah isnt it fun?" in a couple of seconds..

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:02 PM

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Right?!?

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But seriously, do we have any clue who the rabbit in birthday could be??

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:03 PM

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David?

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i mean his mask was a white rabbit?

spice frigate Aug 16, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Possibly David tho

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but I am not sure 100% so

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:04 PM

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but why would he kill dales family?

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:04 PM

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well didnt he leave a note?

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something about escaping?

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:04 PM

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He said he didn’t have a choice in his note

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:04 PM

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yeah, it was signed by Mr Rabbit

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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maybe its symbolic?

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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But mr rabbit and the white magician magic are two different things

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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🤔

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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I just want answers!!!!!

spice frigate Aug 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Same

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:05 PM

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lets hope Paradox will clear some things up

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:06 PM

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The White rabbit is symbolic of love, tenderness, of magic and manifestations.
according to some sources

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:06 PM

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perfectly fitting for a homicidal maniac

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Hey @dim edge

Can you just answer all our questions 😬😬

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:07 PM

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maybe they will after the game series has ended?

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(hope so)

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Will the game series ever end?!?

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:08 PM

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didn't they say they were planning one more premium and a few more free games in a blog post once?
If I remember right

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:11 PM

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yeah they did

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Heh I doubt they will, that’s part of the fun!

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:12 PM

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tbh i lowkey hope we see the Vanderbooms again someday

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:15 PM

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yeah Roots was my absolute favourite

spice frigate Aug 16, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Sameee

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 5:19 PM

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VANDERBOOMS FOR THE WINNNN

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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My god, what you're all saying is super confusing .-.

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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That’s what makes it GREAT

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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It's a puzzle!

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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So many different perspectives, so many different possibilities

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:41 PM

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Yeah but no, because you're just throwing ideas that... are false when you put it with the rest of the theories that are more or less "proved" or connected to said proved theories .-.

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:41 PM

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plot twist:the rl spinoff is about the fnas

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fans

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:42 PM

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Just because you’ve believe it to be true doesn’t make it gospel

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There are some things people have said that are most likely not true, sure, but if you can’t handle it...

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:42 PM

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It's really important to keep the gate open for new ideas.

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Also Harvey is trans birb and I respect his life choices.

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:44 PM

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I know i know, but there are things that are just .-.

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I mean, theories have to be creative but like...
There are some things that don't work quite as well

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Like the plague cure = the elixir .-.
No... Caroline was searching the elixir so...

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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that was just someone asking a question

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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I know I know

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Well as you saw we discussed that

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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It's just confusing x)

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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To whom?

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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me

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:46 PM

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I can understand why someone might consider that

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Why? And so what?

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Would you rather they have not asked said anything at all?

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*asked anything

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:48 PM

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no no no, calm down, I didn't say anything bad

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I'm just trying to figure out what was said and what is true or not

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Oh, but what if the family members on Paradise Island ingested incomplete versions of the elixir? In cave the dog still had traces of the elixir in his waste, so maybe there's something in grandma's spit, snot, and tears?

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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It's really unclear to me

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:49 PM

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It’s supposed to be unclear, you’re never going to get one definitive truth

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And I’m fully aware of what you said

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:50 PM

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oh yeah makes sense now that you mention it

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:50 PM

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most of the stuff discussed on this channel are just theories, so you can decide yourself what to believe in

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:51 PM

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Perhaps not quite right for eternal life, but enough to help uncle whats-his-name.

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:51 PM

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Gerald i think..

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:51 PM

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Right, thanks

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:52 PM

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Mr. Boarman

hollow raptor Aug 16, 2018, 5:52 PM

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Uncle Mister Dude

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:52 PM

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I will never remember his real name

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:53 PM

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I keep thinking David because he reminds me of someone I know whose name is David. Then I'm like "Oh no, that's the brother."

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:53 PM

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Why does he remind you of your David, dare I ask? 😛

copper hawk Aug 16, 2018, 5:54 PM

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I'm just saying that the ideas that were thrown in this channel today were quite unclear to me and that i'm really confused

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that's all

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Hehe, well it's not that he spends too much time getting sick on the john, not that I know. The guy I know has the same resting facial expression, same hair color (though the guy I know keeps it a bit shorter), he's also kind if a jerk like jeez say hi once and a while without demanding a shrimp.

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

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how many shrimps he gotta eat before he get sicc

manic glade Aug 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

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Heh

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SHRIMP

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

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my brother ate shrimps once, and he went to the hospital because of it

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Shellfish allergy?

spice frigate Aug 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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oh jeez

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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nah he ate too much

spice frigate Aug 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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At least his skin didn't turn pink

vague imp Aug 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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i dont remember exactly but i think it was atleast 10 cups of shrimps..and they werent small ones..

shy pecan Aug 16, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Oh

hearty vector Aug 16, 2018, 6:55 PM

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@copper hawk feel free to ask if you have a specific question! Some theories and ideas in this series are meant to be vague and maybe a bit unclear 😄

vague imp Aug 28, 2018, 5:53 PM

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also did you guys notice in the rl paradox teaser there's an ear in one of the jars...who knew Van Gogh would actually tie into the rl story...

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:24 PM

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I did

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But I never knew HOW

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He was in literally every game since Arles
It HAD to have some implication

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And I was waiting for the next manifestation in Paradox
thanks for giving me the answer earlier than expected

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Seasons, no painter reference, I think
The Lake, same
Arles : you are Van Gogh
Harvey's box : you play in a melting pot of Magritte's paintings
Case 23 : the painting of Chamber in Arles in Laura's living room
The mill, nothing ?
Birthday : a painting on the wall
Theatre... interestingly enough, there is nothing .-.
The Cave : Magritte with the legged fish
Paradox : the ear
Hotel : the sky is a Van Gogh painting
Paradise : Gerald's ear chopped off

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So... Yeah...
Weird connections between the games and Belgian / Dutch painters .-.

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I saw it coming, now the thing is, is this ear, again, just a reference, or are we finally getting an answer ?

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@vague imp

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:46 PM

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uhh possibly?

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idk im not apart of the rl staff

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:46 PM

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I know

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:46 PM

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i can dream tho

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:47 PM

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But just... It's weird how it connects...

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:47 PM

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ye..

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:48 PM

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The thing is, every game where you play as Dale, there is a Van Gogh reference, except Theatre, but at this point I think his mind is too messed up by the memories of other persons

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the other ones, there's generally a Magritte reference

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and the Rusty Lakes have Van Gogh too...

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Connecting him also to the Eilander family

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I forgot to mention roots

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uh....

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I don't recall a painter reference in it .-.

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Maybe a Magritte somewhere, but idk

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:51 PM

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yeah i getcha..

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also tbh we did sorta see Dales parents (or atleast) figures of them in paradox (in the teaser) ..makes me wonder

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Where?

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:51 PM

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i think its on their instagram..

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:52 PM

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No like where in the video lol

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Oh and did you ever noticed that the spiraling staircase in the durian fruit in Harvey's box is the same staircase than the one that leads to the Alchemists brothers' lab ?

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Every time you watch it you see something new 😀

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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tbh im sorta anxious for the release date now..

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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heh

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Also I noticed this :

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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I’ve never played any of the premiums, just the cube escapes

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-08-28_a_08.04.06.png

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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Actually nvm I have

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-08-28_a_08.04.16.png

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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tbh can i admit something..

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:53 PM

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yeah

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:54 PM

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i sorta ship Dale and Laura.

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:54 PM

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x)

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You're not the only one

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but she's kinda... ded

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:54 PM

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yeah

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:54 PM

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😔

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Well they get together in cave in a twisted sort of way

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:55 PM

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well yeah

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:55 PM

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meh

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:55 PM

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but i think they work together in paradox..

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somehow

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:56 PM

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well the film universe is an AU

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so sure, why not

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:56 PM

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well yeah..

copper hawk Aug 29, 2018, 12:57 PM

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I have to go, I'll be late...

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bye

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:57 PM

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sure cya

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 12:59 PM

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What’s weird is that the elevator reaches the bottom of the lake by going up

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Maybe it’s some kind of upside down lift

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 12:59 PM

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maybe?

plucky swallow Aug 29, 2018, 1:00 PM

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I wonder if the next stop will be below the lake floor and the forest

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Or above

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Or if he’s returning to the surface

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Oh never mind

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The green office has an elevator entrance right?

vague imp Aug 29, 2018, 4:40 PM

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ye i think so sorry for the late as hell reply, i was getting something from the store..for hours

glossy gazelle Aug 30, 2018, 9:51 PM

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is there like a google doc with a summary of the story and the timeline?

hearty vector Aug 30, 2018, 9:57 PM

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There’s a wiki but....

glossy gazelle Aug 30, 2018, 9:58 PM

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the wiki's just gonna tell me what literally happens in the game, not how it connects together and what it means

manic glade Aug 30, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Did you check? It at least has a timeline

hearty vector Aug 30, 2018, 10:42 PM

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It actually has some pretty good bars yet descriptions and stuff http://rusty-lake.wikia.com/wiki/Rusty_Lake_Wikia

Rusty Lake Wikia

List of Games Games of the Cube Escape series and within the Rusty Lake timeline., Timeline Stay on track with this mysteriously interconnected series., Characters Get to know the recurring...

shy pecan Sep 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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In winter of Seasons, does anyone have an idea who was setting things up? Who boarded up the window and nailed up the wires?

plucky swallow Sep 4, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Hmm I think it was the woman in her real life, not the memories

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Maybe she became paranoid

thorn coral Sep 4, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Ye

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Isn't there a corrupted soul outside

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Or is that a changed memory

shy pecan Sep 4, 2018, 2:56 PM

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I think by that year she was already dead.

copper hawk Sep 4, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Yeah, it's weird, because those are memories, but in that case does it mean she remembered that as a corrupted soul ?
And she thought she killed herself so she destroyed her corruption in the past, except she was murdered, most likely by Bob ?...
It's the only logical reasoning I can think of

shy pecan Sep 4, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Wouldn't be the first time. After all, William remembered everything in Roots.

copper hawk Sep 4, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Yeah

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I don’t know if it’s been said before, but in the trailer for cube escape: paradox (both game and short film), Mr Owl says to Dale : "Some men find this place... hard to leave." Does it mean Dale isn’t the first? If he isn’t, who were the previous ones and how many were they?
I’m just saying. Maybe I missed something and the answers are obvious.

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Maybe a reference to the Hotel guests, bc we clearly are in Mr. Owl's office

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I mean they all died

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 1:17 AM

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Maybe. But obtaining Dale’s memories seems to be waaay more difficult compared to the guests’ memories.

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But maybe

thorn coral Sep 11, 2018, 3:25 PM

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🤔

thorn coral Sep 11, 2018, 5:43 PM

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hey people, is harvey dead?

thin elk Sep 11, 2018, 5:44 PM

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Not that we know

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Well, maybe

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I think he died at least a couple of times

thorn coral Sep 11, 2018, 5:45 PM

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he died in seasons

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but was alive again in the mill

thin elk Sep 11, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Ye

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And also in the easter egg in Birthday

thorn coral Sep 11, 2018, 5:45 PM

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didnt he fly away then

thin elk Sep 11, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Or at least it was implied he died

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He died, changed the form and flew away

thorn coral Sep 11, 2018, 5:46 PM

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how does that work lmao

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step 1. die, step 2. cHaNgE fOrm

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🤔

thin elk Sep 11, 2018, 5:47 PM

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Worded that wrong

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He reincarnated

thorn coral Sep 11, 2018, 5:47 PM

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k

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k hes indeed probably ded

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📎 unknown.png

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and this is the reincarnation?

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📎 unknown.png

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k gtg now bye

thin elk Sep 11, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Anyway, Harvey is alive and well, but also not really cuz he's at the Rusty Lake and everyone there is trapped and either has died multiple times, or will eventually

plucky swallow Sep 11, 2018, 6:49 PM

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You’re never really “well” at Rusty Lake!

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Lil theory here:
As we know, Mr Crow and Mr Owl are extracting memories to probably send them to the lake.

Now, let’s suppose the lake is a conscious entity that will do bad stuff (plagues?) if it doesn’t consume(?) enough memories.

Finally, notice that Dale is still alive. So he probably isn’t there to get his memories extracted.

With these aspects, I can start.

What if Mr crow and Mr Owl had enough of the lake and wanted to stop giving it what it wanted. They could try to find a way to eliminate it. Dale could be a part of their plan. They would need the gold cube to defeat the lake. As it’s been created, they give it to Dale, who takes the elevator to do what he have to do.

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Notice also that Mr deer’s corrupted body tried to attack Dale as he was in the cabin to reach the elevator. Did the lake send it to stop Dale so he couldn’t eliminate it?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Uh

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Ok, so, first, I'm pretty sure it's Caroline that plagued the island .-.

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Caroline seems to have become something much more powerful

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Yes, and maybe thanks to the lake that didn't like her useless sacrifice

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And yes, the lake is a sentient entity, it's pretty much establish, I think

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Or something in it

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Now I don't see how the cube would defeat the Lake

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Can you tell what it does?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:52 PM

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The golden cube is the combination of good, bad, past and immortality

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To make "the future" which is the golden cube

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I really don't see how it would be of any use against the Lake

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Me neither, but I felt like it could be a thing

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Uh... why... not...

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But I guess the Lake would've tried to kill all of them by now if he knew something was wrong

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Maybe it has some sort of control over corrupted souls

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Which would explain laura attacking harvey

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:57 PM

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I don't think so
Corrupted souls are, or at least it's what makes the most sense, neutral creatures

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they don't know good or bad

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the only thing they know is what their last wish was when they were alive

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Their unfinished business

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:58 PM

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So killing harvey was Laura last wish? ...What?!

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:59 PM

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For William, it was to pursue immortality, so he cold-bloodily killed his descendants to have a new life

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 10:59 PM

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On that I can agree

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 10:59 PM

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For the Eilanders family, it was to get revenge over Mr. Owl and anyone that helped him because he tricked them into eating each other

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That's why they attacked Dale

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Eating each other?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:00 PM

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in Hotel, yeah

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Oh yeah. I forgot

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:01 PM

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And for Laura, the killing of Harvey isn't...

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well..

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it's not a corrupted soul, in seasons

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You play as Laura, sure

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but as herself reliving her memories

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:02 PM

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I meant in the mill

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:02 PM

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?

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Oh

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uh

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:02 PM

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In the mirror you look like a corrupted soul in Seasons

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:02 PM

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That’s right

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Yes, but it's because you are a stranger in your own memories @manic glade

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Why does it look like a corrupted soul if it isn't a corrupted soul

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:03 PM

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it's your soul that travels in your memories, you don't have a "physical" body

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Think about it

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who calls them "corrupted" ?

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Mr. Owl

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They're not corrupted, they just want him dead

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:04 PM

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Ok, but what do you do about the mill?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:04 PM

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I'm thinking about it...
Um...

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:04 PM

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...huh, interesting thought

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:04 PM

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I don't think she wanted to kill him really...

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I don't know...

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maybe he was in her way

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a soul is able to do anything for what they want

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even if it implies killing loved ones

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:05 PM

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So what does Laura want?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:06 PM

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I... don't know...

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Harvey didn

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't seem much in the way of anything 😛

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:06 PM

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not in the way

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just in her way x)

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Harvey didn't seem much the HER way then, fine

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*in HER

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:06 PM

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she literally killed anything alive in less than 10m from her

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Why

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That's another point, why did she kill the poor old lady

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Maybe...

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it was just rage

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Because clearly, in seasons, she travels through her memories to prevent her death

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she thinks she is the one that killed her

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but she is not

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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About that, who killed her in Seasons?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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Bob, most likely

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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I still think she killed herself, either intentionally or under the influence of something

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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if you refer to twin peaks, there is no doubt it's him

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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And where the FUCK does bob come from?

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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I wouldn't do that

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Bob is her ex

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

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I know that

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Also don't forget what BOB actually was in Twin Peaks

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That's a whole different story

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I think they just took the name

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

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But why is he a corrupted soul?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

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because this time he really is corrupted

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corrupted by anger

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because she dumped him

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the thing is, I think there is a difference between souls and corrupted bodies

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:10 PM

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You mean, if ANYBODY is angry enough, the person becomes corrupted?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:11 PM

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souls just want to do their last wish

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corrupted bodies are beings that have a rage so great that it takes over and they are willing to kill anything

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even if it's dead

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Laura, when she killed everyone

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it wasn't her soul

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it was her body

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corrupted by her memories and her anger because she couldn't stop her death

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:13 PM

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It doesn’t make much sense that being really angry make you corrupted, tbh

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:13 PM

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well

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it does

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if you consider that what we call "murderous rage" in our world is "corruption" in their

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it just appears different

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but it's pretty much the same

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:15 PM

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I’m just saying that it’s surprising that there aren’t thousands of corrupted

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:15 PM

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That feeling when you're so angry about something you want to kill someone
it's rage taking over your mind and body
i mean it's the closest thing we have to corruption

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well, the thing is, I think it's because of the lake that they look like this

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Idk how or why

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but it's what makes the most sense

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So the only place where you can have a "corrupted body" is near Rusty Lake

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anywhere else, it's just murderous rage

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Well this does make sense.

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Though, it doesn’t answer what does the golden cube do

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:19 PM

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What about Van Gogh

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Why did he go all dark and shadowy

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:19 PM

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uh

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same

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his "rage"

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you know he was mad, right ?

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that's why he cut his ear

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:20 PM

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He was nowhere near the Lake though

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Unless the Lake is in the south of france, I guess

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Don’t think arles is close to rusty lake

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:20 PM

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I "know" where Rusty Lake is, but the creators straight up said it wasn't true

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so...

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Yes you've mentioned

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Where is it? Wasn’t there when it was said

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Canada is even farther from France than the Netherlands are 😛

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There's a rusty lake in canada that strongly resembles the map you see of the lake

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Still, everything matches up perfectly, from the geography to the name, to even the colours of the houses in 9 yo Dale drawings !

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Oh yeah I remember

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:23 PM

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It doesn't just resembles, there are mountains, hills, and different kids of forests on the exact same places than on the IG maps...

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It's pretty crazy that it's not official...

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:23 PM

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No real reason it needs to be

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:24 PM

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But yeah, Van Gogh just killed the theory of people corrupted if close to the lake

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:24 PM

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The only thing that's missing is the centre island and the presence of any cubes or weird fishing cabins, but hey

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And...

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shit, uh...

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Maybe it was part of his madness

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bc we see this shadow figure when we enter his ear, the source of the voices he was hearing

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and he kills it

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it's not him, it's him killing what makes him mad

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still idk why his madness takes the form of corruption

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:27 PM

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To make your theory of a Canadian rusty lake, you can see a newspaper called Daily Herald in Roots. In the same years of roots, there was an actual newspaper called Daily Herald published in Ontario

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:28 PM

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HUH

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:28 PM

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*make more believable

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Rusty Lake is in Manitoba, but still

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:29 PM

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There’s a rusty lake in Ontario, u know

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Oh yeah ?

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Ow

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yeah, but it doesn't fit the map or anything else .-.

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Yes, Manitoba lake fits more

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But a rusty lake remains in Ontario

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:32 PM

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They're 1 600 km away from each other .-.

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but

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Manitoba and Ontario are right next to each other

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-11_a_19.33.01.png

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Indeed

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:34 PM

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So... maybe the newspaper just passed the frontier ?...

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idk

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Or the devs just messed up

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:34 PM

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It was more a local newspaper

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Probably the devs just messed up

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Or they just picked a generic sounding newspaper name

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:35 PM

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they're clearly not perfect, there is many errors in the games x)

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Which seems most likely to me

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Sure, but

#

why a newspaper in Canada, Ontario

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where there actually is a Rusty Lake ?

#

it's not a coincidence

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:36 PM

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I disagree

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Do you know how many newspapers named the Daily Herald there are out there?

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But it's a valid theory, I suppose

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:36 PM

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They could have googled Daily Herald, it took me a few minutes to find it and it was the first to show up

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The Canadian one

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:37 PM

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ok...

#

uh...

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:37 PM

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For me the first one to show up is in Chicago

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Right......

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-11_a_19.37.11.png

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Then Utah

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Then Columbia

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Still, they only exist in North America

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Maybe it’s because I live in Canada

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:38 PM

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That would make sense, yes

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Well, what do they call the newspaper in other language versions of the game?

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Idk

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:40 PM

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They still only exist in North America, I mean, every name in the series looks more like european names... either from Netherlands or Germany

#

sooo...

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:40 PM

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There were a LOT of immigration in the years roots take place

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:41 PM

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I'll see if it's something else in french

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So... the guessing game...

#

uh...

#

I don't recall the way to it .-.

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Oh good, I haven't touched it in this play session

#

Is it Samuel or Albert ? .-.

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:43 PM

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There’s a newspaper when the soldier (cant recall name, sry) build his motorcycle

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:43 PM

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I'll see that one

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Ok, so the textures don't even change based on the language

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there's just a translation when you clic on it

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:52 PM

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So... what do we do with that information?

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:53 PM

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So it means that whatever the language, it's still the Daily Herald

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so it's still in North America

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most likely around New York's lattitude and above

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

Yes

#

I actually am Rusty Lake

#

MUAHAHAHAHAHA

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:54 PM

#

OMG

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:54 PM

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I believe it s in Canada for lil detail

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:54 PM

#

x)

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Yeah, it's the most likely

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:55 PM

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If look at the helmet of soldier (name pls), it’s a British one.

#

Canadian had the same

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:55 PM

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Oh my god, there are two Rusty Lake lakes in Ontario...

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

During wwii

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

Leonard

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:55 PM

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Thx

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:57 PM

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World War 1, that would've been

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Most of the lakes in the world are in Canada, so it’s not a big surprise that we found 3 times a rusty lake in Canada

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Presumably still British helmets though

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Since...they were still basically Britain at the time 😛

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Sry, misspelled

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Welp, here are every "Rusty Lakes" I could find

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-11_a_19.57.35.png

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Don't mind the blue point

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Just the white ones

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Dear, are u living at MTL

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:59 PM

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yup

manic glade Sep 11, 2018, 11:59 PM

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waves across the border

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:59 PM

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waves back

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Want some sirup ?

shadow stump Sep 11, 2018, 11:59 PM

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I litterally live a few kilometers away from u XD

copper hawk Sep 11, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Wow, that's cool :3

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Yes it is

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:02 AM

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I'm pretty well placed, right next to a subway station, and a view on the "La Ronde" attraction park from my living room
Free tickets for the international fireworks competition :3

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:02 AM

#

👌

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

Ok, so, I checked

#

There is ONE PLACE

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

WHERE

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:03 AM

#

Except Ontario

#

where we both have a Rusty Lake and a Daily Herald

#

But

#

it's the "Prince Albert Daily Herald"

#

so...

#

it doesn't match up

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:04 AM

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That’s the one I saw i think

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:04 AM

#

Yeah

#

It's not Ontario

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:05 AM

#

Rly

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:05 AM

#

It's based in Saskatchewan

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:05 AM

#

Hmm. Weird

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:05 AM

#

📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-11_a_20.05.37.png

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:05 AM

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I could swear I saw one in Ontario

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:05 AM

#

Maybe...

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:06 AM

#

Yer most likely right

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:06 AM

#

Maybe it's where their main offices are

#

and they have some in Saskatchewan and Ontario

#

But

#

if they do have one in Ontario

#

they MUST have one in Manitoba, since it's stuck between both

#

SO

#

IT MEANS

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IT'S MY RUSTY LAKE

#

YAY

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:07 AM

#

Actually, the one I saw weirdly stopped to publish when roots ends, or close

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Huh

#

Interesting

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:08 AM

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But it s been months I saw it. So my memories aren’t good

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But anyway, I think the location of rusty lake is well defined now

manic glade Sep 12, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Part of Twin Peaks takes place in canada

#

If we see a Rusty Lake in a casino...get suspicious

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

Aaaaaaha

manic glade Sep 12, 2018, 12:10 AM

#

*Rusty Lake Game

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:11 AM

#

Well...

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Does Theatre counts like one ?...

#

it's the closest thing we had

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:12 AM

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...no?

manic glade Sep 12, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

Not in the Twin Peaks way 😛

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

ok

manic glade Sep 12, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

I'm kidding, I don't expect it to happen

#

That would be closer to the Roadhouse, if I had to pick an analogous location

#

With a hefty dose of the Red Room in the Lodges

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And a large dash of the theater from Mulholland Drive, probably

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:14 AM

#

AHAH !

#

An official connexion between Daily Herald and Manitoba

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-11_a_20.12.34.png

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There is literally nothing else on the subject, though...

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:16 AM

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So, that’s it? Can finally say where Rusty Lake is?

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:17 AM

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I think

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Well that’s cool

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:18 AM

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but as long as the devs don't agree with me, it won't be "official", even if it's literally their source of inspiration .-.

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:19 AM

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I think dev won’t agree with anybody

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:19 AM

#

yup

shadow stump Sep 12, 2018, 12:20 AM

#

Anyway, gtg. Cégep stuff to do. Bye

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 12:24 AM

#

ok x)

plucky swallow Sep 12, 2018, 1:40 AM

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@shadow stump @copper hawk yes Canada! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

#

There’s a lake in Quebec where I’ve been that is actually somewhat similar to Rusty Lake, but it’s not named like that

#

It has a boathouse that looks like the cabin, several smallish islands, and the ruins of an old mill

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It is highly highly unlikely it had anything to do with the game but I’ve always found it interesting

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From Ottawa btw

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 1:45 AM

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Huh

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still interesting

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🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

shy pecan Sep 12, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Seems birch trees are very common and native in northern America. You know what's there? Canada. Illuminati confirmed.

plucky swallow Sep 12, 2018, 6:48 PM

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🙀

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. /\

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. /👁\

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/ \

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 6:58 PM

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/o\

plucky swallow Sep 12, 2018, 7:21 PM

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Are there birch trees in Europe? There’s loads here for sure but I never thought about it

#

Wait are there even birch trees in the states?

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Other than near the border

dreamy dawn Sep 12, 2018, 7:24 PM

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i live in massachusetts, there's plenty of both white and black birch here

#

one of the more common trees

hollow raptor Sep 12, 2018, 7:41 PM

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as an european i can confirm that we have birch trees

copper hawk Sep 12, 2018, 11:11 PM

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There are birch trees in Europe, the ones in London are a common example of natural selection because of the industrial revolution, and the wood becoming grey, and the white moths suddenly disappearing in favour of the grey ones...
Blah blah blah though I don't think they are a majority

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Yeah, they're way more present in North America

#

Especially Canada

plucky swallow Sep 12, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Yeah I’ve heard of those moths

#

Nature is cool that way

manic glade Sep 12, 2018, 11:24 PM

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The moths are not what they seem

#

The frogmoths certainly aren't

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Ok so, we know where Rusty lake probably is, but does it help in any way to understand the mystery?

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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We all know Canada is a magical mystical place

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Pancakes were behind it the whole time

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(My serious opinion: not in the slightest, I don't think it matters, and I don't think it's specifically meant to be in Canada or if the country even matters 😛 )

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(But that's just me)

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Yeah, I’m not sure if the country is important or not, but it is still weird that the lake we found matches so well

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:17 AM

#

Is Dale actually referred to as "Detective" at some point?

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Bob call him detective

nova star Sep 13, 2018, 12:18 AM

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"what do you want detective" or whatever during theatre

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:18 AM

#

That’s it

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:19 AM

#

Interesting

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:19 AM

#

?

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:19 AM

#

And which province does the lake supposedly exist in?

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Manitoba

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Detective isn't a position in the RCMP, is why I'm asking. They don't have them 😛

#

They have inspectors

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Hmmm

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Ah yes, some provinces have their own police forces which might have detectives, I haven't checked. Manitoba is not one of them 😛

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Yes, but what prove us Dale is in Manitoba?

#

When he found Laura, she crawled through a portal door , or something like that

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:22 AM

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He was investigating her murder, so presumably he is with the police force in the area

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And unlike Twin Peaks Dale he wasn't brought in from the federal police, the RCMP are already the federal police 😛

nova star Sep 13, 2018, 12:23 AM

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📎 asdfasdfasdf.jpg

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boom haha

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:24 AM

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I mean, maybe the door Laura crawled through bring u from Laura’s home (in Manitoba) to somewhere else (not in Manitoba)

dreamy dawn Sep 13, 2018, 12:25 AM

#

and on the phone call doesn't he say "this is detective dale vandermeer"

#

you guys are trying to find what country/place rusty lake takes place in right?

#

sorry i haven't been following this convo much

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:27 AM

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There's a lake in Canada that is eerily similar to the map of the lake we get at some point, so they've been trying to find more Canada connections

dreamy dawn Sep 13, 2018, 12:27 AM

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well because it might be relevant

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i took a picture of the police car that is parked in case 23 to see if it matches with any police cars outside of america

📎 unknown.png

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it doesn't seem to match with any results for a canadian police car

📎 unknown.png

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:28 AM

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I personally will consider it to be in the Netherlands and largely irrelevant unless the games give me a reason to think otherwise 😛

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Remember that game is in 1972

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Dale isn’t necessarily from Canada, as I explained above

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:28 AM

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It may have changed

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Why is he in her house

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:29 AM

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It might be NOT her house

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Interesting theory

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Yeah I'm going to stick with my Occam's razor way of looking at things 😛

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:30 AM

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I don’t get the joke : /

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Occam's razor is a problem-solving principle. "The simplest answer tends to be the right one"

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:31 AM

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This is Rusty Lake

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Again, that's just me though, I understand the joy of scrutinizing everything to come up with all kinds of theories 😛

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This is indeed rusty lake

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Indeed

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Maybe the Mounties are behind it

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There's an evil Mounty in twin peaks

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Not sure Twin peak has this much influence on Rusty Lake

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:34 AM

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(I'm joking, I strongly believe it doesn't)

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Oh no, I’ve been wooshed

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:34 AM

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I'm sorry to hear that

dreamy dawn Sep 13, 2018, 12:37 AM

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maybe rusty lake is in illinois?

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i don't know how much it's intended to borrow from real life

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i'm probably going too deep here but

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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like i said i doubt this is more than just a

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they used that name for it absent mindedly

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:38 AM

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So do I, but they went down that rabbit hole as well. There's also a daily herald in Canada

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Maybe 2? I don't remember

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:49 AM

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There were like two or three in Canada

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 12:52 AM

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there is one Daily Herald in canada

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Prince Albert Daily Herald

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Oops, my bad

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Also this :

📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-12_a_20.54.18.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357141008875651072/489592985776816128/unknown.png

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So yeah

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Looks like a "generic police car" to me

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:57 AM

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I think Timothy is right

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Also also :

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📎 Capture_decran_2018-09-12_a_20.56.31.png

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I'm not gonna translate it, but it says there are Detectives in Manitoba

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It's a regulation policy for private detectives

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Sooooooooooooo

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:58 AM

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....

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Private detectives

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So you're suggesting Dale is a private detective

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Well, nothing says he is attached to the government

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Except having an office in a police station, sure

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 12:59 AM

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hn

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 12:59 AM

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I've had enough for now, you all have fun 😛

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 12:59 AM

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He got u, red

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 1:00 AM

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I didn't "get" anyone

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 1:00 AM

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U know what I meant

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 1:00 AM

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I'm just stating facts 😛

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It could be completely irrelevant.

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Dale very well could be a private detective

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 1:00 AM

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hnnnnn

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Maybe Laura isn't from Canada, she just went to the lake there

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Maybe a billion other things

copper hawk Sep 13, 2018, 1:01 AM

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It's not clearly said he's in a police station, there is just one policeman that helps him have an eye on Bob
But maybe it's just one of those Manitoba policies

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I'll read the article

manic glade Sep 13, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Most importantly though the minute this becomes a "competition" or one person's opinion or theory is pushed as the "definitely correct and true one" you lose me

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I'm going to go make egg salad now

shadow stump Sep 13, 2018, 1:03 AM

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I never ever wanted this to go this far