#General Strategy & Help!
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I have a gold golden disk but I don't have good bots for alchemist now, so I thought of putting it on optimal
Is Optimal Optimus' SA damage comparable to that of Sixgun?
It's similar to the first part of his skill where he does damage over time, yes.
@brisk swift Basic Stats
Thanks!
I legitimately thought that this part of the server disappeared 💀
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Anyways is Onyx Prime good on Red Alert
Onyx goes better on a rush warrior, e.g. Sideswipe, BW Ironhide etc, not Red Alert
Imo it won't work too well
idk tho never tried that
Although you can use Onyx for bots whom you feel die too fast as well @remote root
neato, noted
I use Onyx on a scout bot with heartburn, the self healing + reduced damage makes for crazy survival
I use it on bw ironhide, he has less health and less second shield campared to other rush warriors so onyx prime makes a good compensation of that
Same, I second that.
Is Red Alert relevant on a war team?
Yes
Although Tracks is better
But Red alert is a good replacement
his shield is 80% absorption tho
Thanks, how is his G1? Don't have it yet
With shorter duration
ah thats how he is different
Hang on
i think his G1 gives him a shield
for BW ironhide?
lol no
his G1 gives him +3.5% health and every 12 seconds, creates a protective shield that blocks 40% damage for 4 seconds @brisk swift
this is the silver core
his SA gives his allies 30% damge absorption
SA11 gives 100% to himself
Yep
wish i had his 4 or 5 star even
I don't wish for the 5s
The 4s sitting at lvl 1 💀
💀 you dont even use him
I don't like him:)
with his SA11 and G1 core, he should help the team survive longer
Once I get Pipes I'll chase either skids or Roadbuster
4 star?
5 star
oh nice
OO seems nice too
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What batch is as great as #10?
the bots in batch 10,
Minerva- best healer
Sixgun- top tier gunner
SG Jetfire- Best air class bot
Strafe- goes crazy if you level up him enough
i forgot the last one but they are pretty good
I mean what batch is as good as batch 10? The one with Skids or the one with Roadbuster?
yeah the new batch with Roadbuster and Optimal Optimus
Do you like all the bots there?
tbh yeah
it has rotorstorm and scattershot too
and sentius
like
you literally cannot go wrong with any of them
Do you think Scattershot and Rotorstorm would be useful in wars?
Rotor can do good damage
and if you pair scatter with rust dust or prowl with his G1 or even sunstreaker, they can wipes defenses out
And what core and combat would you use on Scatter?
hold on there is a chart for this
@brisk swift
chart reccommends rejuv
tbh it would be cool if he was a gunner but ig only one acid gunner
Or it would also be cool if he was an air class bot
yeah then you could put EO on him or the coating since he stands in one place
I guess Roadbuster, Sentius and Optimal are the best in this batch. And Rotor and Scatter won't also be a disappointment
for higher level bases, Roadbuster is great
removes the shield so you wont be dealing with that
Optimal is great on offense
and sentius is great on both offense and defense (even better with his sword)
(Pipes/headstrong is an amazing early investment)
Is there a similar chart with combats?
so glad i have his 4 star
Thanks a lot
Same
Bro when was that made💀
It doesn't mention Onyx for warriors
it does for Bulkhead
although i have mine on BW ironhide
Dino; Good tank paired with Quintaxe and good distraction with holos
Drop Springer for Mirage?
Depends on your strategy. They do different things
What 4* combiner to max out - Galvatronus or God Neptune? Primarily for offence in wars and events
GN
Hes extremely base heavy with his SA
Galvy is just if GN faces overwhelming pressure to the point where his Iframes are better
bruh wheres the lounge
#┊💬・tfew_lounge
ok thx
Only think Springer is good for is medic on demand. Basically micronus if you have Optimus with him. I don't use his other ability
Do people use Roadbuster/Halfshell in PL HM?
What batch to pull from, guys?
I'd finish B10.
Thanks. And after that?
B11
Bludgeon & Acid Storm?
depends on what your main teams need-- healing, tanks, more firepower etc
pull according to that
I would like to complete b10 and get the best healer and gunner
So batch 10 is the way to?
That Runamuck with sa11 is a beast on defense, Yoda had it on defense and it took 70% of my 50k team within seconds, his sa11 is way too good
Imo yo should complete b10 and get Flatline and Trigger
both are amazing ngl
Bludgeon good also B7
there is a Drag Strip in it
Wait you already have pipes
potential risk
I am afraid of that guy either
Yeah then avoid since you already have pipes
Get flatline
Best healer, great for everything tbh
IF You want You can go for this one too she's awesome
Is Triggerhappy a better fire attacker than Megatron T2?
what yo blinkin at blud
One shot gunner, takes down cluster defenses with ease
best gunner I can say
Your 50K Team XD
playtester blud
I know bro 😆
Very amusing homie
Red alert right?
yes
Yep
Thank you!
Lookin' to put a new war team together, any suggestions?
Depends on the base and strategy required, but Dinobot, Cutty, Megs, SG TC, Skully ( in some bases) or Knockout, Coelagon, Armada Megs, and a healer Shockwave won't be bad
I suggest you use Triggerhappy as your gunner, will be very useful to oneshot clusters of defenses
For some particular bases, you may use Skully
For high end ops/Combiners use Brakeneck
Dinobot, Impactor and Armada megs must be on your team
with a healer
Shouldn't i just use Flatline instead of Shock in practically every circumstance?
yeah ofc, Flatline is way better than SHockwave
the best healer
you may even use two healer sometimes lol
Two healers can help in some bases, but you'll need tanks and a good gunner, e.g. Triggerhappy then
Flex lol
Skrapnel, Slipstream, Full Tilt, SA11 Exaust, Blitzwing, G1 Bombshell, Knockout, Viper, Leozack, Runabout, Dirge, Triggerhappy, SA11 Tantrum, Breakdown Prime, Transmetal Megs, Skywarp, Offroad, Malus, Guyhawk, Brake-Neck, Unicronus, Acid Storm, Sea Clamp, Tarantulas, Runamuck, Coelagon, Flatline, SG Thundercracker, Skullsmasher, SA11 Lugnut, Motormaster, SA11 Megatron, Cutthroat, Galvy, Impactor, Scourge, Dinobot
blud you listed all his bots💀
I don't really like suggesting a set team
First time I noticed your pfp, and it's roblox
used to think its an astronaut or smth lmao
☠️
Itsnt it a war team request?
why yo listing his bots then
I didnt list all of them
all these bots and no headstrong or bludgeon?
unless im blind and didnt see them
Bludgeon's there, Headstrong is a no
ah ye found em
is full tilt brawn equiv?
ye
pair him with bludgeon
good team to destroy defenses with
can practically one shot them
Bludgeon
Full tilt
Halfshell
Dinobot
Flatline
Triggerhappy
Spinster
Acid storm or Blast off
or was it Dirge
which one was the con equiv for tracks
tracks is good
Cutthroat
oh then yeah him
and if not spinster then knockout
you have good options
Is 5* Optimal Optimus/T2 Megs war worthy?
Absolutely.
With his Golden disc core or something like Alchemist or Megatronus?
I had A LOT better success with Alchemist. Once he gets SA11 I feel like he will easily replace Rust Dust in PLHM.
He basically full heals from one ability if you run Alchemist on him.
Thanks. Great to hear that. And can he replace Six Gun/Triggerhappy?
Kinda? He's more of a Acid+Fire combo bot, pairs well with likes of Skids for example.
I guess his SA damage is on par with that of Six Gun? And even a lil bit cheaper
And combat wise is Windstrike/Baru a decent choice for him?
Similar, but still very different.
It is okay. Tbh Bashbreaker, Sawtooth, Windstrike, Buzzstrike, all work well with him. Even Rattrap can be very nice for additional protection. He's flexible.
I mean if I pulled Optimal Optimus last time, should I chase Six Gun for fire/acid combo with Skids or try to pull somebody else?
Whole B10 is amazing and if you don't have Minerva or SG Jetfire go for it. Sixgun is still insane and tbh I like having both on my team.
Thanks a lot. I've already got SG Jetfire. Only have Six Gun and Minerva left in this batch
Was trying to pull Halfshell from B13 but I guess Six Gun and Minerva are of a higher priority
Yeah I'd finish B10 and then go for 13 like you said.
Just pulled headstrong(pipes) 5* what's recommended combat/core, i have leige but also the new anti hack combat as a 4*(lvl 8)
Megatronus and Lancelon
Megatronus and Zori
that's the strongest combination for him based on my experience
Love this
not the stats channel ik, but I need to flex lol
nah saving that 1m spark and 750k zen was some grind
What cores (Prime and Non-Prime) are commonly seen on Rook?
Prime: Liege Maximo
Non-Prime: Rejuvenate
Combat: Soundbarrier/Sheeldron
@remote root
Gold league here, I run Quintus/Trip Up
Good build for him?
Tactician if you want him to target defenses, otherwise Rejuvenation. As for combat, maybe Tricerashot, but nothing really excels for him.
Rook's SA is based on how much life he has. So you want a Vitality core on him to boost it as much as possible.
Vitality core is 💩 if you plan on the bot surviving more than 30 seconds
For most other bots, this is true. For Rook, it's not. His sa is completely based on his health. The more health he has, the stronger his holos. Your mileage may vary.
Eh, it's better his holos die so they explode and do their damage to enemy bots and defenses. Then deploy more holos
Amal, Alch, Rejuv, Attack
Any Independent combat or a ranged one that allows him to shoot over walls
hes a scout so if you put tri on him then he does unfunny things
Wich core would you recomend for 5* Sandstorm? He has level 11 special ability
Alchemist Prime
I did use that one on him and worked pretty amazing, but now with his ability at level 11 he doesn't really need it like before, since now he has the "warrior shield" with some self healing, it seems that almost every core might go well with Sandstorm once his ability is lvl 11
Alchemist is still very good on Sandstorm even with his ab11
@grim plinth can yo write in here now?
🔥🔥
I agree, the thing is that I have other bots who could use it as well, since Sandstorm can do pretty fine without it
I ended up putting Onyx Prime and see what'll happen lol
What does it mean in combiner lab “Defensive ability not set?”
It means you don’t have one set when that combiner is in the combiner beacon
It means you haven't set the defensive ability of the combiner you're looking at
Yo who should I put Prima on
Does sandstorm heal himself by rushing
He kinda does with his lvl 11 ability, like, is more an absorption, like most of the warrior class has once they use their ability, shield included
Yeah warrior rushers also heal themselves with every ability use. Does he do that too along with absorption cuz I have his 4 star but I don't use it much
Except Hot Spot ;-;
His acid rush once he gets lvl 11 gets the warrior shield and absorption, just like most of warriors, and the range of acid and healing is even bigger
Yeah ik that just wondering if he heals himself
Not like Ratched dropping his healing bomb to itself, is more like the same healing that warriors has
I see
Yo two good bots are skyburst and seaspray yo
Yo but if you don't have them then any gunner or air bot who also has Flak yo yo yo
Why yo?
i have seaspray but not skyburst
So it is the use of "yo" that bothers you?
the execessive use of it
but im not the "yo" police
so do as you please
¯_(ツ)_/¯
How many "yos" are acceptable to you?
i dont use it that often. just at the start of the sentence and thats it
So would the following be more acceptable to you?
"Yo two good bots are skyburst and seaspray
Yo but if you don't have them then any gunner or air bot who also has Flak"
the first one is fine
not the second one
use it once and thats that
like im not using it anymore
Why is the second one offensive?
who said anything about offensive?
Okay if it is not offensive then why does it bother you?
this is irrelevant to channel purpose so imma cut it off here but i already stated my stance on this
Okay but I am confused
But from here on out I will try to remember to limit to myself to just one "yo" per post when responding to you
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yo Yo
Yo
Yo
Went pretty good. 3/4 alliances in our fam finished
Great! All of alliances in my fam finished it except the lowest alliance
Yeah, the one that didn't finish was our lowest
Lowest one is evo x, and they finished it as well right?
Who said EDEX is the lowest lol. Our lowest alliance is Dark Elite Camp
I forgot about them lmao
Any of these bots worth investing into a Z15 setting?
SG, Grimlock, AT, Firefly, Nosecone, Air Raid, Jetfire, Bumblebee and maybe Whirl.
Tbh any of these robots can go to Z15, I just picked out those that I feel like can do more than others.
Good players level up certain bots and only use those.
Great players level all of their bots and use them all.
Do with that as you will.
I made a pretty damn good tier list (with help of other players, both PL players and those who don't) and it can give you good idea what bot has what kind of potential.
Hats off to yall
This helps a lot
4s vs 5s bots are different, Idk why but I'm pretty sure Stormclash deals more dmg than Jetfire at 4s.
5s I'd take Bee any day but 4s gotta stick with Mirage cause non SA11 + his rigged G1
Mirage's g1 core is fun. I like seeing Decepticins standing around looking clueless while Mirage is invisible and destroying defenses
Of course 4* and 5* bots are different lol
Here are the 2 your mentioned for comparison
And I wouldn't use Bee without Brawn. As for Mirage... eh
Non SA 11 Mirage is generally more concentrated in terms of AoE compared to Bee
The only reason why hes 4+1 is cause he would be extremely overpowered if he was 3+1
I have a question, it might sound silly but I just don't find the answer anywhere else
What does absorption mean? I mean, not what it does for sake but what it means and what means what happens when I use the ability, like some warriors when they rush or Red Alert which gives that effect
It's just damage reduction.
Right, but, when I use for example Ironhide's rush, his shield turns on and that reducts the damage he gets, but then after a few hits he "auto heal" himself
the absorption is different from the healing
so ironhide aborbs 80% of incoming damage AND heals himself
which is why him and pipes are the best tanks in the game
First Ironhide gets a shield that reduces the damage he takes by 80%. After the shield is gone then he heals 80% of his HP.
That's the thing, most of the warrior's ability description describes it as absorption and no healing is mentioned
the healing is passive
Healing is mentioned if bot has a healing.
just like how Optimal Optimus freezes bots
Exactly, and it isn't showed as healing, the bot just gets some of the health
Also their ability says that their max health is increased, maybe for as long as the shield lasts
You get health that is equal to 80% of your max, however you get it at the end of the ability.
That part I did get, the absorption part was the one I didn't really understand
Out of 100% damage you only recieve 20%.
That is pretty cool indeed
Could you show me Ironhide's? Mine is in spanish and I found a translation error
Thanks
Stealing this don't mind me
I made it to share it 
😎 👍
Real
I was shocked game didn't have one so decided to make. Then again I do understand why, PL players see only 25 or so PL bots, 10 or so bots that can be used in worst case scenario and others as trash, while normal players have very limited knowledge that is usually based on repeating what they heard.
Just hoping to shed some light on it for everyone in need of it.
I don't get it
Personally there are so many choices for PL
Depends on player's skill. And bot setup
But it's for the general PL war. Idk about PL against top 5 war alliance
The bots are more limited
I've seen people take goofy bots like pre buff Grimlock and win in PLHM, no doubt. Though I based the tier list on what is used the most, had many opinions and for the final touch I had a discussion with Atari about sorting out the PL picks at the end.
Tru
It just depends on how you use the bot
Jazz just vibes with Sandstorm in Z15
I use Sky Lynx for literally everything
Sure, hence why some are at the top of PL and some are not. Skill always matters.
List changes depending on situation
Z14 aint the same as Z15
Z15 isnt the same as wars
Forget Z14 and 15. Combiners farm that.
From my experience, Platinum wars are where you start to get a taste of what are tough bases.
And later on just gets harder and harder.
Events tho
Biners only carry you for so long through them
Both events and normal PVP.
Normal has Titans
Magna, Ruination and Sky Reign solo all up until Z15
LOL
Z15 is nothing lol, any bot can do it
Get your 4s Titan
Lol
💀Early 50s tho
Makes me wonder how Mirage survived that whole ordeal as lv 40 lol
Hmm..
Is Tigerchest/Victory Leo for Star Saber/Deathsaurus worth chasing or there are better options for him?
I have gmetal Vlock maxed out
That's good
So these are my A and B squads
(I only have Whirl on A because TwinTwist is being researched currently)
And these are aaaaalll of my 4 stars
Is there anyone on my A and B squads I should switch out for a newer bot?
Also any builds for a C squad?
(5 star Jetfire is also being researched)
replace lightspeed for ironhide and springer is ok until you get a better healer
maybe focus on that first aid
Alright, but Springer has the Micronus core currently
Then I guess I'll research First Aid after I research Swoop
Any ideas for a 3rd squad?
Tracks
Roadbuster
Prowl
Arcee
optimal Optimus
jetfire or silverbolt
red alert but with his g1 core
elita-1
i only picked red alert cuz you dont have another rush tank
except slug
would be better if you had pyra
that ariel is eh
tbh you have alot of great bots
wish i had that tracks
actually just remembered nosecone is good now
so instead of arcee put nosecone
he is slow but does good damage
and you have dustup and optimus primal so dont push your luck
and ultra magnus
I would level Roadbuster and Red Alert…. But only if you like what they can do
Ariel is great. Better than Optimus Prime imo
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imma have to disagree there
i have both
both with their G1 cores
ariel's range is her only weakness
You won’t see the difference until you get titans
Ariel can get stun immunity, Optimus can’t
That’s where you go wrong
You simply can’t use a pathing bot and expect to solo
The point of the pathing control is to redirect your bots
no kidding
Her range is good to do that
so wdym by solo?
People like to prime rush a base
i just use prime to avoid poorly placed combiner outposts
very useful for that
so good
if they can do it then good for them
not every base is prime rushable but i dont even rush the base with prime
The point of path control is to keep the team together. You simply can’t judge a boy’s abilities based on what you like to do
💀
And like I said earlier
You will see the advantages of Ariel when you get titans
thats why he is better
Well no. You have to look at all aspects
Ariel has significantly more health
Gets stun immunity
Ariel has more health but optimus is pretty high up there with health too
and at SA11 optimus gets a shield
base health anyways
you can either put his matrix on him or his g1 core
Forget matrix core exists
yeah i dont use it
They talked about reworking it, but that was few years ago
however i think Rodimus has a better matrix core
Red Alert is 49, but I definitely need to research Roadbuster
That's basically better version of his G1
yeah i like the matrix
but anycase
if ariel has abit more range, she would be better
but she is not
Ok
Ariel is good but she's not better than prime
Thoughts?
Should be fine
Build for him?
Soundbarrier or Sawtooth sound good on him. Megatronus, Trythillium plating (however that’s spelled) or Rejuvenate
I second everything except Rejuvenate. That's one thing he benefits the least from.
Typical warrior load out
Melee or shield combat. Rejuv or trylitjium plating
Why? I’m curious
You already have 80% heal from ability per cast. You will get a lot more bang if you use Trithyllium or Attack if you want more offensive option. That's excluding the Prime cores.
I never thought of that
thx
I’d use rejuv if you plan on soloing
So he can last longer when your out of ability points
After deleting a poorly worded statement cuz I'm high and dumb I do now wonder if a Trithyl core would block more or less damage than a rejuv would heal.
I use Trithyllium Plating on any warrior that gets the health boost with their SA, unless they have a G1 like Grimlock. Rejuvenate is mostly redundant on those warriors, imo.
No point in rejuv. Try would increase survival ability
This setup has saved me so many times
Well tbf rejuv ticks off of max health and most tanks are boosting max health. I personally like the trithyl but this Bludgeon rejuv would be using 54k as a health value while the ability is active.
who is baru? smashdown?
ah thxs
I feel like i need to kick someone here
it's saber
you really care about SA cost, right?
well, in that case you should get rid of Saber
only thing i like from saber is his range
He really needs SA11 to be amazing. Without it remove him.
Swoop
Not yet, hes starting to 1 tap buildings with Skids
Hmm, mine dies in air so I use him for dps only
Its either G1 Swoop or the bench💀
It only takes 2 AA turets to knock him
Ya
I use him only if all turrents are destroyed
Why BW Silverbolt?
BW Silverbolt is really good until you start encountering bases with a lot of healing
🤷Might kick him, looking into Whirl and Stormclash rn
Who is he good on?
Rook
^
Well kick Star Saber for either that Whirl or another tank rusher
Warriors
I just ran numbers and Whirl with VM + Titan Perk deals nearly the same dmg as Stormclash with EO
What other 4 star gunners do you have then
Six, Warpath, Rotorstorm, Prowl and Alpha Bravo
Roto then
With Air Raid on the same team?
Why not?
If not roto then six if he isn't on your top team
CRB Intergration:
Combats unless mentioned are 4s
Sideswipe - Vector, Sawtooth
Trailbreaker - Micronus, Yellow shield guy
Rook - Quintus, Trip Up
Punch - Amal, 3s Topshot
SGJF - Prima, 5s Nightstick
Blades - G1, CRB
Sky Lynx - G1, 5s Big Daddy
Ratchet - Alpha Trion, Rung
Thoughts? I'd have to take 5s Spoilsport off of Punch if I bring in CRB
Bro just add it and see how you like it
fr
gonna keep it real, its a support weapon. just slap it on someone who doesnt really need a combat and use some fire, acid, electric bot with them
its not even that great
Anyone here have some good overall recommendations for cores and combats for skids/knockout?
Alchemist/Fireline. Fracus/spec core…. Fracus/Alch…. Caliburst/spec core
In addition to those mentioned I think the new rust blaster suits him fine as well.
G1 core and nightstick
In addition to knockout, any good combinations with Dinobot/Dinobot II and bluestreak/Wildrider?
I got alch on 5 star Sentius but I went with the fracas, knockout out core combo
Dinobot is very flexible. You can run Rejuvenate, Liege, Amalgamous, whatever. Quintaxe combo also works well in keeping him alive.
Wildrider: V-Mix and a gun like fracus or gatorface….. G1 and a companion could be good when the G1 comes out
I use Micronus on Dinobot
What's the general opinion on combat batch 5 and its war relevance?
Zaur is crazy and Tricerashot is okay. Others are pretty much duds.
Roadburner does nothing, Pinpointer gives Jets attack and some healing, also makes them medium range. Kinda meh compared to other gun combats.
SG Steeljaw is kinda inconsistent.
SG Steeljaw is great imo…. The smoke is a little iffy but his basics are great
I have Windstrike and Rollerforce left in the current batch. And also Victory Leo. Was hoping for Sentius Sword, but it seems it isn't coming.. I was thinking of whether to open those 3 or to take a risk with batch 5...
Do you have Star Saber leveled?
Yeah, I have him 5* 68/11
I would go the current batch then
I second it, go for current batch.
Thanks, I hope I won't pull Rollerforce
Roller is great though.
Thank you!
Why not? Roller is great
For example, if you put him on Armada Megatron his SA damage will skyrocket.
Roller with armada….. nasty combo
Put him on a healer and they'll heal much faster.
I haven't tried him with Coelagon yet.
And that also works with similar bots like Sentius, Impactor?
Doesn't work with bots that are set to do certain amount of damage per second.
I assume it’s like streetwise’s speed up….. that doesn’t speed him up
Thrust, Spinister, doesn't work with them.
And streets claim he gets an extra disc
Streets?
I've seen a lot of setups with Roller and Minerva
Yeah, Roller is a good one. Buffs other bots near it as well, not just holder.
Roller is just good all around. Perfect support combat for anyone with room. I think the current batch is great. I was disappointed about Zori at first but he slaps
Glit and SG Ravage confuse me so much. At times I see SG Ravage attacking and I think its Glit that decided to go on a rampage. They serious need to add some sort of indication about that 💀
Real
Fr
Is 5* Red Alert/Runamuck better than 4* Tracks/Cutthroat?
Tracks is easier to use, Red Alert is better but has a bit of a situational issue
Dont quote me, I dont use RA
use em for different things
tracks is great on raid, RA with his G1 core
on defense RA
offense tracks is great at support
And is RA also viable on offence?
on lower levels he works fine but on higher levels the ffds really start to hurt him
(again, ffds are broken as sh!t and need a nerf, if they removed the silver-bullet heal block from ray blockers they can and should do the same for ffds too)
But ffds also remove Tracks' smoke cloud or am I wrong?
p sure it does yes
But still Tracks is better in wars?
Raids
red alert is also very good in raids from personal experience
G1+Sa11?
i have his gold g1 but i'm gonna try and seek his gmetal g1 at some point
as for his sa11, lol no i'm hq 14 how do I get one
oh snap his SA11 will cost 1M spark and 300k z energon
so give it some time
isn't it 750k zen for ab11
Yes 750k Zenny, 1 Mil spark.
oh it was 750?
idk i cant see it rn
im at SA10 on my rook
but it wont let me see the zen requirements
Tracks is still great in wars.
You just have to take out any FFD’s that will be a problem. Smokescreen’s good for that due to cheap cost and his range.
Does anyone have a 4 star Acidstorm /slingshot they could show? Somewhere around lvl60 4 star?
Micronus on Slingshot?
...Interesting
Sling is a support bot imo… I never understood the EO builds
Awesome thanks for the share.
One hit support
Are these fellas good? If yes whats a good build for them
Nope
UM has a bad SA and Joefire is powercrept by the rest of the air class population
Awww
Welp
But
Joefire has invis
He is a great bot to pick off low defenses….. he could also receive a great SA 11
My condolences
What build should inferno have?
Try Plat and Soundbarrier
need to give him as much shielding as possible to keep him alive
only good for his SA
Is Plat the trithyllum plating?
yes
Thank you👍
Smokescreen is currently being researched, so I have Topspin in here
I was planning on having Topspin as my 8th A team bot once I upgraded my Shuttle, but now I'm not sure if I need him, since I have SG Jetfire
So who should get that 8th slot
topspin is good with sky lynx
otherwise dont bother
whoelse do you have to put there
how about the other jetfire
two aerials on your top team is good
2 tanks
2 aerials
2 gunners
medic and special
or special and special
You sure normal Jetfire isn't top squishy?
or medic and medic
nope he is good
just level him up abit for his damage
besides if you put them down properly, pipes can distract while jetfire does high damage
Alrighty, sounds good
And who should be 8th for B squad?
this B squad or C?
B
Who should take that 8th slot?
Slingshot? Alright
np
Anyone has a good layout for HQ-17?
Any of these guys good? If yes can you recommend a build for them?
Slingshot is great.
A support build such as Prima + Flak, or a build with Nexus is good for him.
Otherwise, a Squad Core or EO/RC of your choice.
Snarl is decent, not great, not bad.
His G1 and a melee COMBAT will suffice.
I’ve won a lot of battles with this layout I made…. With inspiration from other things too 🤣
But I would wait for more people to show bases…. There is always someone with a better layout
okay , thanks everyone!
where are the rest? i only see 2 BBs
Gold BB core is the one I have not yet decided what it will be. Other 4 are placed very strategically.
i see
What's the best combat for Headstrong/Pipes? Zori/Sawtooth, Bashbreaker/Gabu or some other variant?
Bashbreaker/Gabu or Buzzstrike/Lancelon
put sawtooth on megatron
zori for you
Are there any recommended combats for Rhinox if he’s being used for outpost duty?
his Transmetal core and pterxadon
the higher rating the core, the better
Pteraxadon, huh? Gotcha. I have a spare I can give him.
Also, a couple questions about medics.
I know that, prior to Wreck-Gar being added, Minerva was/is considered the best medic. Has that changed with his inclusion? Cause I rarely hear anything about him.
Also, I just recently got my very first 4 star medic in Ratchet. How does he rank among the others?
Minerva is still the best medic, she is uncontested, Ratchet is a close second but Hoist if you have him is also good
Wreck-Gar is funny cuz after he was added no one used him as he is the worst medic in the game
Ratchet’s the second-best medic? Cool. Guess I got lucky, then.
Cause prior to getting Ratchet, I’ve focused my efforts on getting 5 star Minerva with no luck so far.
best of luck, she was my second 5 star
a great healer for any situation
No worries there. Gave him that and Rung.
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As for that, I currently have a 1 in 3 chance, so I like my odds, even if I don’t get her next pull.
yeah that batch has all good bots so no loss there
That’s what I’ve heard. In my efforts to get her, I’ve pulled SG Jetfire and Strafe.
And before I learned how good Minerva is, I pulled 5 star Elita-1 in an effort to get Ratchet.
Elita-1 is still s tier so no loss there
actually she is a better pull than ratchet
so W
Also got Ultra Magnus, but knowing that he’s a bad pull, I don’t talk about him anymore, lol.
oof
And I’ll say, lol.
In any case, I now know which two 5 star medics to hunt for.
Thanks for the help!
np
The good thing is that there’s only one bad pull from that set, as well. Even if not Ratchet, I can also pull Blaster and/or Prowl.
Blaster is also S-tier
one of the best defenders in the game
along with LOP, TT and Rhinox
Prowl is a good gunner too
LOP? And TT is Twintwist, right?
And isn’t Prowl considered the best gunner?
If it IS Twintwist, any core and combat recommendations for outpost duty?
Cuz I have his 4 star.
the best gunner(s) are Sixgun and Warpath
Warpath is close one
but mainly sixgun
then its Skids
then Seaspray
then Rotostorm
best cores for TwinTwist are amalgamous and sidetracks for outpost
if you dont have amalgamous then alchemist
if you dont have either then rejuvenate
warpath can clear bases VERY quickly if you have his SA leveled up high enough
Amalgamous, huh? Sounds like it’s Alchemist, then, since I don’t have Amalga yet.
Noted.
and if you get Roadbuster, level him up high too
Roadbuster can 2 shot bases at 5 star SA11
And you mentioned a “LOP”?
Damn… Will keep that in mind, lol.
Laser Optimus Prime
there are 4 Primes in the game
Ah, him.
yeah
Sadly, I don’t have any of him higher than 3 stars just yet. Still working on that.
np
i have my 3 star one at lvl 50 and he still does alot of damage
my 4 star is on my top team
That so? What core and combat?
for LOP his G1 core and combat should always be rattrap
LOP is really a great outpost bot when he is at SA11
cuz his discs stun at every target they hit
Will do.
I’m currently upgrading my 4 star Seaspray, so he’s not currently shown in the first team, but these are currently my main three teams.
your strafe and sg jetfire should be on your A team
kick off that cosmos, he sucks
you have 16 slots so im guessing you are HQ14 or HQ15
HQ16
3 stars should be phased out from your top 3 slots
did you just get there?
move up that ironhide
Somewhat recently, yeah.
ok
you have rook which is good
but now put someone like ironhide there as well
swap springer for ratchet
cosmos for that SG jetfire
strafe for that perceptor
So Ironhide should take the place of my Seaspray?
no actually remove the perceptor and put ironhide there
strafe isnt necessary
Will have to wait for the cooldown, but will do.
Sixgun and Skids
👍
ive had pros put warpath up there
¯_(ツ)_/¯
either way cant go wrong with any of them
As for the bots on my A team:
yoo nice SA11 Elita
that rook SA needs to go up
if you combine air raid and SG jetfire you can deal massive damage
wish i had that 4 star Red alert tho
very nice team
Really? Good to know.
As for the cores and combats?
all good
Cool. Also, just boosted the SA of SG Jetfire and Rook to 9 each. I’m out of spark to spend and hitting the limit of what energon I can spend, otherwise I’d boost them further.
While I’m working on those, though, thoughts on my B and C teams?
Is Roadbuster considered more effective than Warpath?
they have different purpose
Roadbuster is a one shoter
with some additional damage
Warpath supposed to deal damage in a large area
He can take out lines of a base in two uses…. Sometimes even one
That’s what I heard. Definitely useful.
Just switch out those 3 stars and you should be fine
Different purposes Roadbuster is great in raid since his SA removes shields
I’ll look at my available options, but will do.
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I guess he is good in wars too
Yep
@valid gate don't use pteraxadon if rhinox will be on outpost duty
Melee combats are disabled in outposts. Rhinox will be fighting alone
Use a companion
Ah, bummer. Any recommendations in his place?
A companion. Sidetrack, big daddy, zaur and air razor are great for outposts
But use whatever companion you have available
Gotcha. Will do.
Dazzlestrike
Heh. Dazzlestrike STILL that bad, huh?
Already have his gm g1 core but what's a good combat on him?
Is red alert a necessary component to the Prime rush strategy?
Support Companion like maybe trip up
Nope, SA11 Prime takes care of that. However, Red Alert at 5* is an amazing bot to have.
especially for outpost job
I wouldn't say he's necessary but he is useful
Anti stun for your squad plus he gets 10 seconds of invincibility with ability 11
plus damage reduction for the team 🙂
Fire + default Acid damage
He's better than Optimus Primal
That's what I've learned
Dazzle is made for defense
Thanks
Melee combats don't work on defense
The slam right before they fist fight is why you use Dazzle. So yes, this one works
Whom should I chase 5* Baru/Windstrike or 5* Buzzstrike/Lancelon? Also does anyone already have 5* Buzzstrike? Would like to see its stats
Both are great, but Buzzstrike has a great adventage of giving a hack immunity and I would say him.
I pulled Bashbreaker last week, put it on my Headstrong/Pipes and I am not much impressed of it. My previous combo was Megatronus+Zori/Sawtooth. Now I am thinking of switching it to Buzzstrike/Lancelon because of the hack immunity. Together with the warrior perk electrical immunity I guess it would be great on this bot
better with a fire bot like T2 Megatron
What combat is better with T2 Megatron? Lancelon? Why?
Oh, you are talking about Bashbreaker. I see
And what would you put on Headstrong?
lancelion
And if I put Lancelon on him is there a need in Liege core?
Liege should go on rook
megatronus should go on pipes
I had this very setup, then I switched to Pipes(Liege) and Rook(Nexus)due to multiple recommendations but I am not much convinced. Wanna switch back. So Megatronus+Lancelon for Pipes?
yep
acid+fire combo wont let you down
You mean his SA acid + fire from his core, right?
yes
And as for T2 Megs what core is better for him - his gmetal transmetal or may be Alchemist?
Thanks
alchemist is good too but i havent tried that on my optimal optimus, i just have my golden disc on him
np
You have golden disc+Bashbreaker on your Optimal Optimus?
yes
Last question considering fire+acid combo. Should I put Nightstick on Sixgun and Topshot on Skids?
either way works, as long as they are on the same team
Thank you
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Kind of a random question, but something that just occurred to me. I understand that Grimlock just recently had his class changed from special to warrior. Has that altered his performance? If so, what’s the change?
Also, how’s he compare to other warrior class bots?
he gets the warrior buff..... he is really just yet another warrior
yet his core lets him excel above most other warriors
So he’s tanky… ish? Cool. Good to know.
Or is it less that he’s a tank and more of an offensive powerhouse?
Cause knowing Grim, the latter sounds more likely.
the apes took down his dps because of the health boost.... I dont know his current stats
Perk?
stun immunity for warriors is one of the titan perks
Ah, I see. I haven’t unlocked the titans yet, but I’ll have to remember that.
Anyway, hearing that, sounds like they DID make him more of a tank than a bruiser.
On another, equally random question, who are considered the top, must-have combats bots, if any?
Or is it more on a per-bot basis?
I know Ptera is one, but other than him, can’t quite tell who. Figure it might help for future use.
They did
Zaur
That's going to depend largely on your bot lineup and your strategy
But Big Daddy, Zaur, Sidetrack, Bashbreaker, Tripup and Nightstick are top tier combats
Not saying those are the only good ones but players are usually happy when they pop up
Tricerashot is another good one
I hear people talking about Buzzstrike here and there. He good, as well?
As for those bots listed, good to know. Thanks!
Yeah, he's good.
Anyone got a good hq16 layout?
Tiger hawk 4* or swoop 4*?
swoop 4* from what I hear
eh sure that's what I've done (do it for dispatch specifically)
swoop
his G1 and topshot
his G1 is basically EO + that shielding core
If you can spare a Nightstick for swoop it's a good fit. G1 is great, yes.
Got it thanks
(Updated)
Which ones should I focus on?
Rook and Lop are long term options.... focus them
What combat is more suitable for Roadbuster - Sawtooth, Bashbreaker or Axe Bird?
I use the axe
And his immense SA attack heals him
I also put 4* Axe Bird on him. 5* is on Coelagon with Quintus. Used to be on Soundwave
Any core/combat recommendations for Grimlock?
G1 and Buzzstrike
Honestly any melee combat will work with Grimlock (for instance, I run Sawtooth on mine)
waste, put that on optimus
G1 core and either a melee or a companion combat depending on how you use grimlock in your strategy
Does the G1 actually stack with his new ability? He does 60% shield in his SA, but the G1 does 40%. So if they don’t stack, the SA 60% prevails as it is higher, then his G1 is really only giving SA damage increase (the shield is negated). #
Huh… Does 5 star SG Jetfire’s SA max out at level 10? I have a research skip, but it’s not letting me upgrade it, and my 5 star Elita has her SA fully maxed at 11.
Yes no SA 11 yet for sg jetfire
Ah, cool. So yeah, guess he’s fully maxed out there for now.
15 power lol
same setup but different level lol
His transmetal core and a melee combat
Though I opted for quintus + pteraxadon
there are better bots who deserve this setup 😄
Nah I like this setup for him
yeah
Who would be better for this setup?
Blaster and Twin Twist?
Twintwist is best with amalgamous core in my opinion
On defence?
it makes him even better on defense
What makes Minerva the 'best' healer? She's my lowest lvl 4 star healer by a lot so it's hard to compare.
she heals alot and her healing towers are untargetable
you can give your team back like 75% of their health
Ah so despite the scaling difference in the SA they just made sure she would out heal the Ratchet heal bomb?
Yeah
In addition to what @teal wigeon said, she also has a "free" rejuvenation effect for herself so she can withstand a bit more abuse on the battlefield
Could I see some loadouts for the following?
Ty
I have done my life's duty 🫡
Looking for ideas on where to deploy my Cosmic Rust Blaster.
Ideally someone who can support an acid/fire/electric based team. I have mine on Skids
I have mine on Runamuck to pump KO who holds Fracus and Leozack
Wrong question. You shouldn't be asking who gets the cosmic rust blaster
You should be asking which bots go on the same team as the one holding the cosmic rust blaster
Are there bots that SHOULDN'T get it?
CRB sets attack range to Extra Long, so having a bot that already has SA range issues cough Rust Dust cough cough isn't a good idea
Good to know. Many thanks.
So Runamuck/Red Alert should be a good choice
🤷I dont use them
Not worth pulling?
5* is a must have outpost bot alongside Twin Twist in the high leagues.
I threw a Rust Blaster on Acid Storm cuz his role is already acid/fire support.
Rust doesn't stack with Fire+Acid damage increase so do keep that in mind as well.
Oh so it has no effect if fire and acid are hitting the same target already, providing the innate boost?
I did not know that thanks.
Outpost only? And what about offence?
I love him on offense. There's just so much stunning happening he is so blessed to have keep that momentum up.
I don't have the anti stun titan perk though so runamuck still feels essential when I war.
Depends on your team / healing though. If you can heal enough it's okay. I usually run Shockwave as my only healer so if I get slowed down too much it could be a wipe.
Absolutely works awesome on offense as well.
I would like to replace my old Cutthroat/Tracks with him. So will Rust Blaster + his G1 or Liege suit him well?
I think those are both good. I had Liege on before switching to G1 and I like both results honestly. I think I'll stick with the g1 for now personally.
Yeah, great options.
Build?
Ideally Amalgamous and Sword of Balance. Excluding Prime cores, Tactician works if you want to use him to shred defenses, or Rejuvenate if you want to keep him alive for as long as possible.
He is far from trash
I don't know. His 3* never impressed me. So I really don't know what to do with him.
Normal Starscream is crazy powerful
Can’t base a bot on a 3*
^
Galvatron maybe
Also Flamewar but at SA11
Nemesis, Shockwave and Crankcase. Flamewar only if you plan to use her, otherwise no.
Largely depends on your strategy. For example, Nemesis is quite useful but only if you use him correctly for your squad
Who out of these would you carry on minerva
you have trip up?
if not use Stripes
what core and combat that's best for defense purpose?
groundhog's counter and the G1
Huh, G1?
Only silver 💀
I don’t use the G1, but it looks nice
Except the part where it is just Impactor G1….
So between combiners; OL/OS, Tripred/Magna, Dev/Superion who would you throw in the beacon? (All 4, 5 star).
OL
Putting Trip/Magna is a favor for your attacker
Superion death ray does raw damage….. but he can’t do anything after that
OL
Welp, since I can't find someone's recommendations for a C squad, I'mma ask for it again since I have a few new bots
(My 4 star Wheeljack and 5 star Jetfire are being researched)
These are my A and B squad
(I will get the 8th shuttle slot on Monday)
What kind of strategy are you wanting to use for the c squad? That influences what bots you'd use
That doesn't answer the question but okay
I tried
Sorry, I don't usually have strategies when I place down my troops
It's just
Use whatever SA is best for a situation
If your strategy is "whatever" then use whatever bots. Pick the ones that are fun for you
Jetfire, smokey, red alert, lop, seaspeay, sideswipe, dinobot
The 4 star Jetfire, right?
Also I'mma need an 8th bot
That 8th slot is just around the corner
I'm getting Z14 vibes
In that zone you dont really have to worry about much. Everything is just tanky with an occasional biner.
I'd highly recommend going for status effects such as EMP or Hacking. You also need at least 1 bot that can pop OPs
Everything else is fair game
👍Looks good
So assuming you don't have their G1 core, who would you say is the best bot for Megatronus core? Maybe top 1-3 bots?
Headstrong
Lugnut
Rippersnapper
Runabout
Pipes
The acid from his special works with the fire from megatronus
I guess in that regard you could throw Megatronus and Gabu (? The acid combat weapon) on any melee bot for a good time. I hadn't thought of that.
Pipes
💯 💯 💯
Do Megatronus + Buzzstrike.
Lancelon for the Cons.
Lancelon gives Headstrong Anti-Hack against Liege and Mindwipe. And Megatronus can pair for Headstrong’s acid rush for the Fire + Acid combo.
Yeah that seems ideal. I was just saying turning someone like for example Offroad / sideswipe into a powerhouse with Megatronus and Gabu on top of glass gas and decent tankyness. But Headstrong is the obvious one I see now.
Offroad should get tryplat or rejuv and a gun combat or shield
if you have onyx that works too
Offroad should use Trenchfoot's counterpart(I forgot the name)
Caliburst
Lol I didn't know Offroad could even hold guns.
Also Trenchfoot Brainstorm y or n
