#General Strategy & Help!

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dark sun
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GD w BD Here XD

hard coyote
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I have a gold golden disk but I don't have good bots for alchemist now, so I thought of putting it on optimal

brisk swift
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Is Optimal Optimus' SA damage comparable to that of Sixgun?

split saffron
glass warren
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@brisk swift Basic Stats

brisk swift
remote root
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I legitimately thought that this part of the server disappeared 💀

shut finch
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💀

remote root
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Anyways is Onyx Prime good on Red Alert

shut finch
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Onyx goes better on a rush warrior, e.g. Sideswipe, BW Ironhide etc, not Red Alert

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Imo it won't work too well

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idk tho never tried that

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Although you can use Onyx for bots whom you feel die too fast as well @remote root

remote root
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neato, noted

ocean oar
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I use Onyx on a scout bot with heartburn, the self healing + reduced damage makes for crazy survival

hard coyote
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I use it on bw ironhide, he has less health and less second shield campared to other rush warriors so onyx prime makes a good compensation of that

split saffron
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Same, I second that.

brisk swift
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Is Red Alert relevant on a war team?

nimble coral
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Although Tracks is better

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But Red alert is a good replacement

teal wigeon
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his shield is 80% absorption tho

brisk swift
nimble coral
teal wigeon
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ah thats how he is different

nimble coral
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Hang on

teal wigeon
nimble coral
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Since when it's 80%

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It's 40%

teal wigeon
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for BW ironhide?

nimble coral
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🤦my bad

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I thought you're talking about Red alert

teal wigeon
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lol no

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his G1 gives him +3.5% health and every 12 seconds, creates a protective shield that blocks 40% damage for 4 seconds @brisk swift

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this is the silver core

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his SA gives his allies 30% damge absorption

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SA11 gives 100% to himself

nimble coral
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40% for 4s

teal wigeon
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looking at the 3 star

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so its probably different per star

nimble coral
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Yep

teal wigeon
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wish i had his 4 or 5 star even

nimble coral
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I don't wish for the 5s

teal wigeon
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why not

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or does he not have one?

nimble coral
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The 4s sitting at lvl 1 💀

teal wigeon
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💀 you dont even use him

nimble coral
teal wigeon
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with his SA11 and G1 core, he should help the team survive longer

nimble coral
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Once I get Pipes I'll chase either skids or Roadbuster

teal wigeon
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4 star?

nimble coral
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5 star

teal wigeon
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oh nice

nimble coral
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OO seems nice too

teal wigeon
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i think that batch is another one where all bots are great

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like batch 10

glass warren
brisk swift
teal wigeon
# brisk swift What batch is as great as #10?

the bots in batch 10,
Minerva- best healer
Sixgun- top tier gunner
SG Jetfire- Best air class bot
Strafe- goes crazy if you level up him enough
i forgot the last one but they are pretty good

brisk swift
teal wigeon
brisk swift
teal wigeon
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it has rotorstorm and scattershot too

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and sentius

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like

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you literally cannot go wrong with any of them

brisk swift
teal wigeon
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and if you pair scatter with rust dust or prowl with his G1 or even sunstreaker, they can wipes defenses out

brisk swift
teal wigeon
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@brisk swift

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chart reccommends rejuv

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tbh it would be cool if he was a gunner but ig only one acid gunner

brisk swift
teal wigeon
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yeah then you could put EO on him or the coating since he stands in one place

brisk swift
teal wigeon
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for higher level bases, Roadbuster is great

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removes the shield so you wont be dealing with that

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Optimal is great on offense

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and sentius is great on both offense and defense (even better with his sword)

jolly shell
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(Pipes/headstrong is an amazing early investment)

brisk swift
teal wigeon
teal wigeon
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open it in a browser

brisk swift
jolly shell
unkempt summit
teal wigeon
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although i have mine on BW ironhide

distant marsh
unkempt summit
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Drop Springer for Mirage?

gilded nacelle
unkempt summit
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Tru

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Mirage has a longer SA Range and more controllable EMP

brisk swift
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What 4* combiner to max out - Galvatronus or God Neptune? Primarily for offence in wars and events

unkempt summit
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Hes extremely base heavy with his SA

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Galvy is just if GN faces overwhelming pressure to the point where his Iframes are better

covert saddle
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bruh wheres the lounge

dark sun
covert saddle
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ok thx

teal wigeon
brisk swift
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Do people use Roadbuster/Halfshell in PL HM?

nimble coral
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He used a lot

brisk swift
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What batch to pull from, guys?

split saffron
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I'd finish B10.

brisk swift
teal wigeon
brisk swift
shut finch
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pull according to that

shut finch
brisk swift
shut finch
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That Runamuck with sa11 is a beast on defense, Yoda had it on defense and it took 70% of my 50k team within seconds, his sa11 is way too good

shut finch
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both are amazing ngl

teal wigeon
shut finch
teal wigeon
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Wait you already have pipes

shut finch
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potential risk

teal wigeon
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Oh yeah drag strip is hound

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Mega yikes

brisk swift
teal wigeon
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Yeah then avoid since you already have pipes

teal wigeon
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Best healer, great for everything tbh

brisk swift
dark sun
brisk swift
shut finch
shut finch
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best gunner I can say

dark sun
shut finch
dark sun
shut finch
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Very amusing homie

shut finch
teal wigeon
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ive heard he is good

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probably better with his G1 and SA11

brisk swift
brisk swift
hexed sail
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Lookin' to put a new war team together, any suggestions?

shut finch
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I suggest you use Triggerhappy as your gunner, will be very useful to oneshot clusters of defenses

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For some particular bases, you may use Skully

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For high end ops/Combiners use Brakeneck

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Dinobot, Impactor and Armada megs must be on your team

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with a healer

hexed sail
shut finch
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yeah ofc, Flatline is way better than SHockwave

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the best healer

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you may even use two healer sometimes lol

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Two healers can help in some bases, but you'll need tanks and a good gunner, e.g. Triggerhappy then

unkempt summit
# hexed sail Lookin' to put a new war team together, any suggestions?

Skrapnel, Slipstream, Full Tilt, SA11 Exaust, Blitzwing, G1 Bombshell, Knockout, Viper, Leozack, Runabout, Dirge, Triggerhappy, SA11 Tantrum, Breakdown Prime, Transmetal Megs, Skywarp, Offroad, Malus, Guyhawk, Brake-Neck, Unicronus, Acid Storm, Sea Clamp, Tarantulas, Runamuck, Coelagon, Flatline, SG Thundercracker, Skullsmasher, SA11 Lugnut, Motormaster, SA11 Megatron, Cutthroat, Galvy, Impactor, Scourge, Dinobot

unkempt summit
shut finch
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First time I noticed your pfp, and it's roblox

teal wigeon
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didnt mention mindwipe

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💀

shut finch
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used to think its an astronaut or smth lmao

shut finch
unkempt summit
shut finch
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why yo listing his bots then

unkempt summit
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I didnt list all of them

teal wigeon
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unless im blind and didnt see them

hexed sail
teal wigeon
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ah ye found em

teal wigeon
hexed sail
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ye

teal wigeon
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good team to destroy defenses with

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can practically one shot them

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Bludgeon
Full tilt
Halfshell
Dinobot
Flatline
Triggerhappy
Spinster
Acid storm or Blast off

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or was it Dirge

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which one was the con equiv for tracks

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tracks is good

hexed sail
teal wigeon
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and if not spinster then knockout

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you have good options

brisk swift
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Is 5* Optimal Optimus/T2 Megs war worthy?

split saffron
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Absolutely.

brisk swift
split saffron
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He basically full heals from one ability if you run Alchemist on him.

brisk swift
split saffron
brisk swift
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And combat wise is Windstrike/Baru a decent choice for him?

split saffron
split saffron
brisk swift
split saffron
brisk swift
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Was trying to pull Halfshell from B13 but I guess Six Gun and Minerva are of a higher priority

split saffron
open bronze
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Just pulled headstrong(pipes) 5* what's recommended combat/core, i have leige but also the new anti hack combat as a 4*(lvl 8)

split saffron
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Megatronus and Lancelon

nimble coral
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that's the strongest combination for him based on my experience

shut finch
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Love this

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not the stats channel ik, but I need to flex lol

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nah saving that 1m spark and 750k zen was some grind

remote root
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What cores (Prime and Non-Prime) are commonly seen on Rook?

hexed sail
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Prime: Liege Maximo
Non-Prime: Rejuvenate
Combat: Soundbarrier/Sheeldron
@remote root

unkempt summit
last acorn
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Good build for him?

split saffron
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Tactician if you want him to target defenses, otherwise Rejuvenation. As for combat, maybe Tricerashot, but nothing really excels for him.

frozen tree
gilded nacelle
frozen tree
gilded nacelle
unkempt summit
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hes a scout so if you put tri on him then he does unfunny things

still plover
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Wich core would you recomend for 5* Sandstorm? He has level 11 special ability

remote root
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Alchemist Prime

still plover
# remote root Alchemist Prime

I did use that one on him and worked pretty amazing, but now with his ability at level 11 he doesn't really need it like before, since now he has the "warrior shield" with some self healing, it seems that almost every core might go well with Sandstorm once his ability is lvl 11

remote root
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Alchemist is still very good on Sandstorm even with his ab11

shut finch
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@grim plinth can yo write in here now?

shut finch
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🔥🔥

still plover
still plover
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I ended up putting Onyx Prime and see what'll happen lol

smoky merlin
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What does it mean in combiner lab “Defensive ability not set?”

eternal schooner
gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
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Yo who should I put Prima on

teal wigeon
still plover
teal wigeon
still plover
teal wigeon
still plover
teal wigeon
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I see

gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
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😐

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i hate the way you put that

gilded nacelle
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Why yo?

teal wigeon
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i have seaspray but not skyburst

gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
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but im not the "yo" police

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so do as you please

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
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not the second one

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use it once and thats that

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like im not using it anymore

gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
gilded nacelle
teal wigeon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dark sun
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Yo Yo

nimble coral
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Yo

jolly shell
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Yo

nimble coral
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how was the event yo

jolly shell
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Went pretty good. 3/4 alliances in our fam finished

nimble coral
jolly shell
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Yeah, the one that didn't finish was our lowest

shut finch
nimble coral
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Who said EDEX is the lowest lol. Our lowest alliance is Dark Elite Camp

shut finch
unkempt summit
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Any of these bots worth investing into a Z15 setting?

split saffron
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SG, Grimlock, AT, Firefly, Nosecone, Air Raid, Jetfire, Bumblebee and maybe Whirl.

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Tbh any of these robots can go to Z15, I just picked out those that I feel like can do more than others.

frozen tree
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Good players level up certain bots and only use those.
Great players level all of their bots and use them all.
Do with that as you will.

split saffron
unkempt summit
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This helps a lot

unkempt summit
gilded nacelle
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Mirage's g1 core is fun. I like seeing Decepticins standing around looking clueless while Mirage is invisible and destroying defenses

split saffron
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And I wouldn't use Bee without Brawn. As for Mirage... eh

unkempt summit
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Non SA 11 Mirage is generally more concentrated in terms of AoE compared to Bee

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The only reason why hes 4+1 is cause he would be extremely overpowered if he was 3+1

still plover
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I have a question, it might sound silly but I just don't find the answer anywhere else
What does absorption mean? I mean, not what it does for sake but what it means and what means what happens when I use the ability, like some warriors when they rush or Red Alert which gives that effect

still plover
teal wigeon
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so ironhide aborbs 80% of incoming damage AND heals himself

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which is why him and pipes are the best tanks in the game

split saffron
still plover
split saffron
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Healing is mentioned if bot has a healing.

teal wigeon
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just like how Optimal Optimus freezes bots

still plover
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Also their ability says that their max health is increased, maybe for as long as the shield lasts

split saffron
still plover
split saffron
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Out of 100% damage you only recieve 20%.

still plover
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That is pretty cool indeed

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Could you show me Ironhide's? Mine is in spanish and I found a translation error

split saffron
still plover
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Thanks

split saffron
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I made it to share it GifCrabRave

gaunt wolf
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😎 👍

grim plinth
split saffron
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I was shocked game didn't have one so decided to make. Then again I do understand why, PL players see only 25 or so PL bots, 10 or so bots that can be used in worst case scenario and others as trash, while normal players have very limited knowledge that is usually based on repeating what they heard.

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Just hoping to shed some light on it for everyone in need of it.

nimble coral
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I don't get it

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Personally there are so many choices for PL

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Depends on player's skill. And bot setup

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But it's for the general PL war. Idk about PL against top 5 war alliance

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The bots are more limited

split saffron
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I've seen people take goofy bots like pre buff Grimlock and win in PLHM, no doubt. Though I based the tier list on what is used the most, had many opinions and for the final touch I had a discussion with Atari about sorting out the PL picks at the end.

nimble coral
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Hmm..

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As I said

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Skill matters a lot

unkempt summit
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Tru

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It just depends on how you use the bot

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Jazz just vibes with Sandstorm in Z15

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I use Sky Lynx for literally everything

split saffron
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Sure, hence why some are at the top of PL and some are not. Skill always matters.

unkempt summit
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List changes depending on situation

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Z14 aint the same as Z15

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Z15 isnt the same as wars

split saffron
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Forget Z14 and 15. Combiners farm that.

From my experience, Platinum wars are where you start to get a taste of what are tough bases.

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And later on just gets harder and harder.

unkempt summit
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Tru

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B4 and B5 Gold are kinda painful as well even with a 25K team

unkempt summit
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Biners only carry you for so long through them

split saffron
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Both events and normal PVP.

unkempt summit
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Normal has Titans

split saffron
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Magna, Ruination and Sky Reign solo all up until Z15

split saffron
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Hence they take care of that

unkempt summit
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LOL

nimble coral
nimble coral
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Lol

unkempt summit
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Makes me wonder how Mirage survived that whole ordeal as lv 40 lol

nimble coral
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Hmm..

brisk swift
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Is Tigerchest/Victory Leo for Star Saber/Deathsaurus worth chasing or there are better options for him?

split saffron
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There are no better options for him.

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Also give him his Vlock core

brisk swift
hard coyote
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That's good

woeful olive
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So these are my A and B squads

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(I only have Whirl on A because TwinTwist is being researched currently)

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And these are aaaaalll of my 4 stars

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Is there anyone on my A and B squads I should switch out for a newer bot?
Also any builds for a C squad?

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(5 star Jetfire is also being researched)

teal wigeon
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maybe focus on that first aid

woeful olive
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Alright, but Springer has the Micronus core currently

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Then I guess I'll research First Aid after I research Swoop

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Any ideas for a 3rd squad?

teal wigeon
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i only picked red alert cuz you dont have another rush tank

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except slug

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would be better if you had pyra

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that ariel is eh

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tbh you have alot of great bots

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wish i had that tracks

woeful olive
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Thanks

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I'm just waiting for my next 4 star to be Cliffjumber lol

teal wigeon
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so instead of arcee put nosecone

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he is slow but does good damage

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and you have dustup and optimus primal so dont push your luck

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and ultra magnus

grim plinth
grim plinth
teal wigeon
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imma have to disagree there

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i have both

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both with their G1 cores

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ariel's range is her only weakness

grim plinth
teal wigeon
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her ability is strong

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her range sucks

grim plinth
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Ariel can get stun immunity, Optimus can’t

grim plinth
teal wigeon
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huh?

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her range is literally shorter than optimus's

grim plinth
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You simply can’t use a pathing bot and expect to solo

teal wigeon
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solo?

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the point of using them is to direct the whole team

grim plinth
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The point of the pathing control is to redirect your bots

teal wigeon
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no kidding

grim plinth
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Her range is good to do that

teal wigeon
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so wdym by solo?

grim plinth
teal wigeon
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i just use prime to avoid poorly placed combiner outposts

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very useful for that

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so good

teal wigeon
grim plinth
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Yeah that’s why you can’t use Ariel

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To great effect

teal wigeon
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not every base is prime rushable but i dont even rush the base with prime

grim plinth
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The point of path control is to keep the team together. You simply can’t judge a boy’s abilities based on what you like to do

teal wigeon
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💀

grim plinth
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And like I said earlier

teal wigeon
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that doesnt even make sense

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Prime can reach further than Ariel

grim plinth
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You will see the advantages of Ariel when you get titans

teal wigeon
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thats why he is better

grim plinth
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Ariel has significantly more health

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Gets stun immunity

teal wigeon
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Ariel has more health but optimus is pretty high up there with health too

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and at SA11 optimus gets a shield

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base health anyways

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you can either put his matrix on him or his g1 core

split saffron
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Forget matrix core exists

teal wigeon
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yeah i dont use it

split saffron
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They talked about reworking it, but that was few years ago

teal wigeon
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however i think Rodimus has a better matrix core

woeful olive
teal wigeon
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if they were to rework, it should be like what Rodimus has

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would be nice

split saffron
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That's basically better version of his G1

teal wigeon
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yeah i like the matrix

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but anycase

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if ariel has abit more range, she would be better

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but she is not

grim plinth
hard coyote
unkempt summit
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Thoughts?

jolly shell
last acorn
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Build for him?

grim plinth
# last acorn Build for him?

Soundbarrier or Sawtooth sound good on him. Megatronus, Trythillium plating (however that’s spelled) or Rejuvenate

split saffron
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I second everything except Rejuvenate. That's one thing he benefits the least from.

gilded nacelle
split saffron
# grim plinth Why? I’m curious

You already have 80% heal from ability per cast. You will get a lot more bang if you use Trithyllium or Attack if you want more offensive option. That's excluding the Prime cores.

fallen pebble
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I’d use rejuv if you plan on soloing

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So he can last longer when your out of ability points

mint turtle
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After deleting a poorly worded statement cuz I'm high and dumb I do now wonder if a Trithyl core would block more or less damage than a rejuv would heal.

frozen tree
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I use Trithyllium Plating on any warrior that gets the health boost with their SA, unless they have a G1 like Grimlock. Rejuvenate is mostly redundant on those warriors, imo.

teal wigeon
fallen pebble
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This setup has saved me so many times

mint turtle
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Well tbf rejuv ticks off of max health and most tanks are boosting max health. I personally like the trithyl but this Bludgeon rejuv would be using 54k as a health value while the ability is active.

teal wigeon
jolly shell
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Baru is windstrike

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Smashdown is razorsharp

teal wigeon
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ah thxs

unkempt summit
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I feel like i need to kick someone here

nimble coral
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you really care about SA cost, right?

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well, in that case you should get rid of Saber

unkempt summit
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Yeah prob

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I dont have him SA11 so he kinda just 0s himself after I send him in

nimble coral
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only thing i like from saber is his range

split saffron
hard coyote
unkempt summit
hard coyote
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Hmm, mine dies in air so I use him for dps only

unkempt summit
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It only takes 2 AA turets to knock him

hard coyote
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I use him only if all turrents are destroyed

teal wigeon
split saffron
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BW Silverbolt is really good until you start encountering bases with a lot of healing

unkempt summit
last acorn
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Who is he good on?

split saffron
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Rook

teal wigeon
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^

teal wigeon
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Maybe Ariel

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Who knows

teal wigeon
gilded nacelle
unkempt summit
teal wigeon
unkempt summit
teal wigeon
unkempt summit
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With Air Raid on the same team?

teal wigeon
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If not roto then six if he isn't on your top team

unkempt summit
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CRB Intergration:
Combats unless mentioned are 4s
Sideswipe - Vector, Sawtooth
Trailbreaker - Micronus, Yellow shield guy
Rook - Quintus, Trip Up
Punch - Amal, 3s Topshot
SGJF - Prima, 5s Nightstick
Blades - G1, CRB
Sky Lynx - G1, 5s Big Daddy
Ratchet - Alpha Trion, Rung
Thoughts? I'd have to take 5s Spoilsport off of Punch if I bring in CRB

fallen pebble
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Bro just add it and see how you like it

teal wigeon
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fr

teal wigeon
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its not even that great

charred swift
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Anyone here have some good overall recommendations for cores and combats for skids/knockout?

grim plinth
mint turtle
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In addition to those mentioned I think the new rust blaster suits him fine as well.

charred swift
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In addition to knockout, any good combinations with Dinobot/Dinobot II and bluestreak/Wildrider?

charred swift
split saffron
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Dinobot is very flexible. You can run Rejuvenate, Liege, Amalgamous, whatever. Quintaxe combo also works well in keeping him alive.

grim plinth
nimble coral
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I use Micronus on Dinobot

brisk swift
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What's the general opinion on combat batch 5 and its war relevance?

split saffron
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Zaur is crazy and Tricerashot is okay. Others are pretty much duds.

grim plinth
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It’s worth the risk for Zaur imo….

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I got lucky to get him first pull

split saffron
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Roadburner does nothing, Pinpointer gives Jets attack and some healing, also makes them medium range. Kinda meh compared to other gun combats.

SG Steeljaw is kinda inconsistent.

grim plinth
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SG Steeljaw is great imo…. The smoke is a little iffy but his basics are great

brisk swift
grim plinth
brisk swift
grim plinth
split saffron
brisk swift
split saffron
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Roller is great though.

brisk swift
grim plinth
split saffron
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For example, if you put him on Armada Megatron his SA damage will skyrocket.

grim plinth
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Roller with armada….. nasty combo

split saffron
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Put him on a healer and they'll heal much faster.

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I haven't tried him with Coelagon yet.

brisk swift
split saffron
grim plinth
split saffron
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Thrust, Spinister, doesn't work with them.

grim plinth
split saffron
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Streets?

grim plinth
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Random people

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Never listen

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EVER

brisk swift
split saffron
mint turtle
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Roller is just good all around. Perfect support combat for anyone with room. I think the current batch is great. I was disappointed about Zori at first but he slaps

gaunt wolf
brisk swift
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Is 5* Red Alert/Runamuck better than 4* Tracks/Cutthroat?

unkempt summit
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Tracks is easier to use, Red Alert is better but has a bit of a situational issue

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Dont quote me, I dont use RA

teal wigeon
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tracks is great on raid, RA with his G1 core

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on defense RA

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offense tracks is great at support

brisk swift
remote root
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on lower levels he works fine but on higher levels the ffds really start to hurt him

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(again, ffds are broken as sh!t and need a nerf, if they removed the silver-bullet heal block from ray blockers they can and should do the same for ffds too)

brisk swift
remote root
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p sure it does yes

brisk swift
teal wigeon
remote root
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red alert is also very good in raids from personal experience

remote root
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as for his sa11, lol no i'm hq 14 how do I get one

teal wigeon
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so give it some time

remote root
mint turtle
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Yes 750k Zenny, 1 Mil spark.

teal wigeon
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oh it was 750?

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idk i cant see it rn

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im at SA10 on my rook

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but it wont let me see the zen requirements

glacial siren
mint turtle
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Does anyone have a 4 star Acidstorm /slingshot they could show? Somewhere around lvl60 4 star?

glacial siren
remote root
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Micronus on Slingshot?

...Interesting

grim plinth
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Sling is a support bot imo… I never understood the EO builds

mint turtle
fallen pebble
last acorn
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Are these fellas good? If yes whats a good build for them

grim plinth
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UM has a bad SA and Joefire is powercrept by the rest of the air class population

grim plinth
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But

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Joefire has invis

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He is a great bot to pick off low defenses….. he could also receive a great SA 11

teal wigeon
prisma robin
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What build should inferno have?

teal wigeon
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need to give him as much shielding as possible to keep him alive

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only good for his SA

prisma robin
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Is Plat the trithyllum plating?

teal wigeon
prisma robin
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Thank you👍

woeful olive
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Smokescreen is currently being researched, so I have Topspin in here
I was planning on having Topspin as my 8th A team bot once I upgraded my Shuttle, but now I'm not sure if I need him, since I have SG Jetfire
So who should get that 8th slot

teal wigeon
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otherwise dont bother

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whoelse do you have to put there

woeful olive
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Should probably find an 8th bot for my B squad too

teal wigeon
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two aerials on your top team is good

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2 tanks
2 aerials
2 gunners
medic and special
or special and special

woeful olive
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You sure normal Jetfire isn't top squishy?

teal wigeon
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or medic and medic

teal wigeon
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just level him up abit for his damage

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besides if you put them down properly, pipes can distract while jetfire does high damage

woeful olive
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Alrighty, sounds good
And who should be 8th for B squad?

teal wigeon
woeful olive
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B

teal wigeon
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ah B squad

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ye

woeful olive
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Who should take that 8th slot?

teal wigeon
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slingshot should

woeful olive
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Slingshot? Alright

teal wigeon
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or the other jetfire the 4 star one

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but yeah slingshot top choice

woeful olive
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Yeah, I can see him pairing well with Scattershot and Sixgun

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Thanks

teal wigeon
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np

jolly island
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Anyone has a good layout for HQ-17?

last acorn
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Any of these guys good? If yes can you recommend a build for them?

glacial siren
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Slingshot is great.
A support build such as Prima + Flak, or a build with Nexus is good for him.

Otherwise, a Squad Core or EO/RC of your choice.

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Snarl is decent, not great, not bad.
His G1 and a melee COMBAT will suffice.

grim plinth
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But I would wait for more people to show bases…. There is always someone with a better layout

split saffron
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Works miracles.

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Outposts and build bots are very crucial.

jolly island
#

okay , thanks everyone!

teal wigeon
split saffron
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Gold BB core is the one I have not yet decided what it will be. Other 4 are placed very strategically.

teal wigeon
#

i see

brisk swift
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What's the best combat for Headstrong/Pipes? Zori/Sawtooth, Bashbreaker/Gabu or some other variant?

split saffron
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Bashbreaker/Gabu or Buzzstrike/Lancelon

teal wigeon
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zori for you

valid gate
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Are there any recommended combats for Rhinox if he’s being used for outpost duty?

teal wigeon
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the higher rating the core, the better

valid gate
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Also, a couple questions about medics.

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I know that, prior to Wreck-Gar being added, Minerva was/is considered the best medic. Has that changed with his inclusion? Cause I rarely hear anything about him.

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Also, I just recently got my very first 4 star medic in Ratchet. How does he rank among the others?

teal wigeon
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Wreck-Gar is funny cuz after he was added no one used him as he is the worst medic in the game

valid gate
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Ratchet’s the second-best medic? Cool. Guess I got lucky, then.

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Cause prior to getting Ratchet, I’ve focused my efforts on getting 5 star Minerva with no luck so far.

teal wigeon
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yeah i have him as a 4 star too

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make sure to get his G1 core on him

teal wigeon
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a great healer for any situation

valid gate
teal wigeon
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👍

valid gate
teal wigeon
valid gate
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And before I learned how good Minerva is, I pulled 5 star Elita-1 in an effort to get Ratchet.

teal wigeon
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actually she is a better pull than ratchet

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so W

valid gate
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Also got Ultra Magnus, but knowing that he’s a bad pull, I don’t talk about him anymore, lol.

teal wigeon
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oof

valid gate
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In any case, I now know which two 5 star medics to hunt for.

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Thanks for the help!

teal wigeon
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np

valid gate
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The good thing is that there’s only one bad pull from that set, as well. Even if not Ratchet, I can also pull Blaster and/or Prowl.

teal wigeon
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one of the best defenders in the game

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along with LOP, TT and Rhinox

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Prowl is a good gunner too

valid gate
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LOP? And TT is Twintwist, right?

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And isn’t Prowl considered the best gunner?

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If it IS Twintwist, any core and combat recommendations for outpost duty?

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Cuz I have his 4 star.

teal wigeon
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Warpath is close one

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but mainly sixgun

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then its Skids

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then Seaspray

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then Rotostorm

valid gate
#

Warpath is that good? I never hear anything about him.

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Good to know, though.

teal wigeon
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if you dont have amalgamous then alchemist

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if you dont have either then rejuvenate

teal wigeon
valid gate
teal wigeon
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and if you get Roadbuster, level him up high too

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Roadbuster can 2 shot bases at 5 star SA11

valid gate
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And you mentioned a “LOP”?

valid gate
teal wigeon
#

there are 4 Primes in the game

valid gate
teal wigeon
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yeah

valid gate
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Sadly, I don’t have any of him higher than 3 stars just yet. Still working on that.

teal wigeon
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np

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i have my 3 star one at lvl 50 and he still does alot of damage

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my 4 star is on my top team

valid gate
teal wigeon
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LOP is really a great outpost bot when he is at SA11

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cuz his discs stun at every target they hit

valid gate
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Really? Rattrap? Wouldn’t have guessed.

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Gotcha, though.

teal wigeon
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makes him stun immune

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very useful

valid gate
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Cool.

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A shame I don’t have his 5 star, then. I have 5 star Rattrap, lol.

teal wigeon
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nice

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save it for him when you pull him out of that batch

valid gate
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Will do.

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I’m currently upgrading my 4 star Seaspray, so he’s not currently shown in the first team, but these are currently my main three teams.

teal wigeon
#

kick off that cosmos, he sucks

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you have 16 slots so im guessing you are HQ14 or HQ15

valid gate
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HQ16

teal wigeon
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3 stars should be phased out from your top 3 slots

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did you just get there?

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move up that ironhide

valid gate
teal wigeon
#

ok

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you have rook which is good

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but now put someone like ironhide there as well

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swap springer for ratchet

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cosmos for that SG jetfire

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strafe for that perceptor

valid gate
teal wigeon
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strafe isnt necessary

valid gate
nimble coral
teal wigeon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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either way cant go wrong with any of them

valid gate
teal wigeon
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yoo nice SA11 Elita

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that rook SA needs to go up

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if you combine air raid and SG jetfire you can deal massive damage

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wish i had that 4 star Red alert tho

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very nice team

valid gate
#

As for the cores and combats?

teal wigeon
valid gate
# teal wigeon all good

Cool. Also, just boosted the SA of SG Jetfire and Rook to 9 each. I’m out of spark to spend and hitting the limit of what energon I can spend, otherwise I’d boost them further.

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While I’m working on those, though, thoughts on my B and C teams?

brisk swift
nimble coral
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Roadbuster is a one shoter

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with some additional damage

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Warpath supposed to deal damage in a large area

grim plinth
valid gate
teal wigeon
teal wigeon
valid gate
brisk swift
teal wigeon
gilded nacelle
valid gate
gilded nacelle
grim plinth
teal wigeon
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Bro

valid gate
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Heh. Dazzlestrike STILL that bad, huh?

last acorn
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Already have his gm g1 core but what's a good combat on him?

misty oyster
#

Is red alert a necessary component to the Prime rush strategy?

teal wigeon
split saffron
nimble coral
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especially for outpost job

gilded nacelle
nimble coral
glass warren
eternal schooner
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That's what I've learned

grim plinth
teal wigeon
grim plinth
brisk swift
#

Whom should I chase 5* Baru/Windstrike or 5* Buzzstrike/Lancelon? Also does anyone already have 5* Buzzstrike? Would like to see its stats

split saffron
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Both are great, but Buzzstrike has a great adventage of giving a hack immunity and I would say him.

brisk swift
teal wigeon
brisk swift
#

Oh, you are talking about Bashbreaker. I see

brisk swift
teal wigeon
brisk swift
teal wigeon
#

megatronus should go on pipes

brisk swift
# teal wigeon megatronus should go on pipes

I had this very setup, then I switched to Pipes(Liege) and Rook(Nexus)due to multiple recommendations but I am not much convinced. Wanna switch back. So Megatronus+Lancelon for Pipes?

teal wigeon
#

acid+fire combo wont let you down

brisk swift
teal wigeon
#

yes

brisk swift
brisk swift
teal wigeon
teal wigeon
brisk swift
teal wigeon
#

yes

brisk swift
# teal wigeon yes

Last question considering fire+acid combo. Should I put Nightstick on Sixgun and Topshot on Skids?

teal wigeon
brisk swift
teal wigeon
#

👍

valid gate
#

Kind of a random question, but something that just occurred to me. I understand that Grimlock just recently had his class changed from special to warrior. Has that altered his performance? If so, what’s the change?

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Also, how’s he compare to other warrior class bots?

grim plinth
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he gets the warrior buff..... he is really just yet another warrior

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yet his core lets him excel above most other warriors

valid gate
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So he’s tanky… ish? Cool. Good to know.

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Or is it less that he’s a tank and more of an offensive powerhouse?

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Cause knowing Grim, the latter sounds more likely.

grim plinth
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the apes took down his dps because of the health boost.... I dont know his current stats

nimble coral
#

Being a warrior also make him immune to stun

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When you've unlocked the perk

valid gate
#

Perk?

grim plinth
valid gate
#

Ah, I see. I haven’t unlocked the titans yet, but I’ll have to remember that.

valid gate
valid gate
#

On another, equally random question, who are considered the top, must-have combats bots, if any?

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Or is it more on a per-bot basis?

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I know Ptera is one, but other than him, can’t quite tell who. Figure it might help for future use.

gilded nacelle
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Tricerashot is another good one

valid gate
#

As for those bots listed, good to know. Thanks!

valid gate
#

Cool.

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I don’t even have his 2 star yet, so I only had word of mouth to go on.

woeful olive
#

Anyone got a good hq16 layout?

timid compass
#

Tiger hawk 4* or swoop 4*?

remote root
#

swoop 4* from what I hear

timid compass
#

Got it

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Cuz I put a little investment in tiger hawk

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But nothing crazy

remote root
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eh sure that's what I've done (do it for dispatch specifically)

timid compass
#

Any core/mini bots

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Recommendation?

teal wigeon
#

his G1 and topshot

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his G1 is basically EO + that shielding core

mint turtle
#

If you can spare a Nightstick for swoop it's a good fit. G1 is great, yes.

timid compass
lyric fossil
#

(Updated)
Which ones should I focus on?

grim plinth
#

Rook and Lop are long term options.... focus them

brisk swift
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What combat is more suitable for Roadbuster - Sawtooth, Bashbreaker or Axe Bird?

grim plinth
#

I use the axe

brisk swift
grim plinth
#

mhm

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not by much... but recovery is recovery

brisk swift
misty oyster
#

Any core/combat recommendations for Grimlock?

grim plinth
remote root
#

Honestly any melee combat will work with Grimlock (for instance, I run Sawtooth on mine)

teal wigeon
#

waste, put that on optimus

gilded nacelle
misty oyster
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Does the G1 actually stack with his new ability? He does 60% shield in his SA, but the G1 does 40%. So if they don’t stack, the SA 60% prevails as it is higher, then his G1 is really only giving SA damage increase (the shield is negated). #

valid gate
#

Huh… Does 5 star SG Jetfire’s SA max out at level 10? I have a research skip, but it’s not letting me upgrade it, and my 5 star Elita has her SA fully maxed at 11.

misty oyster
#

Yes no SA 11 yet for sg jetfire

valid gate
#

Ah, cool. So yeah, guess he’s fully maxed out there for now.

last acorn
#

A build for him?

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It's my first 5 star btw

jolly shell
nimble coral
jolly shell
#

15 power lol

nimble coral
gilded nacelle
#

Though I opted for quintus + pteraxadon

nimble coral
#

there are better bots who deserve this setup 😄

gilded nacelle
#

Nah I like this setup for him

nimble coral
#

yeah

smoky merlin
brisk swift
gilded nacelle
brisk swift
teal wigeon
mint turtle
#

What makes Minerva the 'best' healer? She's my lowest lvl 4 star healer by a lot so it's hard to compare.

teal wigeon
#

you can give your team back like 75% of their health

nimble coral
#

True

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Massive healing

mint turtle
#

Ah so despite the scaling difference in the SA they just made sure she would out heal the Ratchet heal bomb?

nimble coral
#

Yeah

gilded nacelle
burnt moat
#

Could I see some loadouts for the following?

jolly shell
#

And now I will leave

burnt moat
#

Ty

jolly shell
#

I have done my life's duty 🫡

frozen tree
#

Looking for ideas on where to deploy my Cosmic Rust Blaster.

gaunt wolf
#

Ideally someone who can support an acid/fire/electric based team. I have mine on Skids

grim plinth
#

I have mine on Runamuck to pump KO who holds Fracus and Leozack

gilded nacelle
frozen tree
unkempt summit
brisk swift
unkempt summit
brisk swift
unkempt summit
#

Hes really strong if used correctly

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Its just I dont have his 4s

split saffron
mint turtle
#

I threw a Rust Blaster on Acid Storm cuz his role is already acid/fire support.

split saffron
#

Rust doesn't stack with Fire+Acid damage increase so do keep that in mind as well.

mint turtle
#

Oh so it has no effect if fire and acid are hitting the same target already, providing the innate boost?

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I did not know that thanks.

split saffron
#

Rust overwrites them.

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So using rust alone with acid is viable.

brisk swift
mint turtle
#

I love him on offense. There's just so much stunning happening he is so blessed to have keep that momentum up.

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I don't have the anti stun titan perk though so runamuck still feels essential when I war.

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Depends on your team / healing though. If you can heal enough it's okay. I usually run Shockwave as my only healer so if I get slowed down too much it could be a wipe.

split saffron
brisk swift
mint turtle
#

I think those are both good. I had Liege on before switching to G1 and I like both results honestly. I think I'll stick with the g1 for now personally.

last acorn
#

Build?

split saffron
#

Ideally Amalgamous and Sword of Balance. Excluding Prime cores, Tactician works if you want to use him to shred defenses, or Rejuvenate if you want to keep him alive for as long as possible.

trim lodge
#

Is there a good Combat for Starscream?

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Or is he just trash to begin with?

teal wigeon
trim lodge
split saffron
burnt moat
#

^

split saffron
#

3* lol

#

Forget they exist

fallen pebble
#

Any of these worth ranking up?

#

Or just get the 4* dupe when I can?

teal wigeon
#

Also Flamewar but at SA11

jolly shell
#

Nah

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Nemmy, shockwave, crankcase

split saffron
gilded nacelle
upbeat marsh
#

Who out of these would you carry on minerva

grim plinth
#

if not use Stripes

nimble coral
#

what core and combat that's best for defense purpose?

grim plinth
nimble coral
#

Huh, G1?

grim plinth
#

he does have one

#

you havent got it yet? RIP

nimble coral
#

Only silver 💀

grim plinth
#

I don’t use the G1, but it looks nice

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Except the part where it is just Impactor G1….

nimble coral
#

Hmm...

#

I'll use onyx

mint turtle
#

So between combiners; OL/OS, Tripred/Magna, Dev/Superion who would you throw in the beacon? (All 4, 5 star).

grim plinth
#

OL

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Putting Trip/Magna is a favor for your attacker

#

Superion death ray does raw damage….. but he can’t do anything after that

woeful olive
#

Welp, since I can't find someone's recommendations for a C squad, I'mma ask for it again since I have a few new bots

#

(My 4 star Wheeljack and 5 star Jetfire are being researched)

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These are my A and B squad

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(I will get the 8th shuttle slot on Monday)

gilded nacelle
woeful olive
#

Just pvp/events

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Anything that takes down bases

gilded nacelle
#

That doesn't answer the question but okay

I tried

woeful olive
#

Sorry, I don't usually have strategies when I place down my troops
It's just
Use whatever SA is best for a situation

gilded nacelle
#

If your strategy is "whatever" then use whatever bots. Pick the ones that are fun for you

teal wigeon
# woeful olive

Jetfire, smokey, red alert, lop, seaspeay, sideswipe, dinobot

woeful olive
#

The 4 star Jetfire, right?

#

Also I'mma need an 8th bot
That 8th slot is just around the corner

unkempt summit
# woeful olive These are my A and B squad

I'm getting Z14 vibes
In that zone you dont really have to worry about much. Everything is just tanky with an occasional biner.
I'd highly recommend going for status effects such as EMP or Hacking. You also need at least 1 bot that can pop OPs

#

Everything else is fair game

woeful olive
#

I wish I was in zone 14

#

How's this for a C squad?

unkempt summit
#

👍Looks good

woeful olive
#

Epic

#

In that case the last three probably need 41 research

mint turtle
#

So assuming you don't have their G1 core, who would you say is the best bot for Megatronus core? Maybe top 1-3 bots?

teal wigeon
gilded nacelle
mint turtle
#

I guess in that regard you could throw Megatronus and Gabu (? The acid combat weapon) on any melee bot for a good time. I hadn't thought of that.

glacial siren
mint turtle
#

Yeah that seems ideal. I was just saying turning someone like for example Offroad / sideswipe into a powerhouse with Megatronus and Gabu on top of glass gas and decent tankyness. But Headstrong is the obvious one I see now.

teal wigeon
#

if you have onyx that works too

nimble coral
#

Offroad should use Trenchfoot's counterpart(I forgot the name)

mint turtle
#

Lol I didn't know Offroad could even hold guns.

remote root
#

Also Trenchfoot Brainstorm y or n