As an Arty player the requirement for 2 people to run the static gun sucks a lot

[cunning frigate]

It’s hard to find people who want to load, especially when my friends either don’t play this game or don’t like the artillery, but it’s the biggest thing that keeps me coming back, needing 2 people is admittedly killing this for me, when I have friends I do tanks when I’m on my own I played artillery, just voicing my opinion, not a fan of the only one gun either but maybe that’s the direction the game needs to go whether i enjoy it or not

[vocal ruin]

you don't need 2 people it just takes a bit longer to change seats, as inf guy, I like the longer interval

I think about it as an arty nerf

[cunning frigate]

Last night I was trying and it wouldn’t work, people in the chat said I needed 2 people to do it

[runic forge]

You can still switch, you just can't do it while reloading, they changed that.

[cunning frigate]

Sweet, I’ll give it a shot

[dark spindle]

yeh i agree, the changes are a nerf as a whole which i will put up with, but the reloader lock was the last straw for me. Who the hell wants to press 'r' for an hour and a half. they need to change it back to make soloing more effiecient for pub games and comp.

[runic forge]

Yeah as if making it take slightly longer to reload "encourages teamwork" its still a solo job

[mental mantle]

I think the game has a problem with not forcing cooperation
Soloing arty, tanks or anything should be discouraged
However SPAs are a bad replacement for arty which yes should be replaced

[cunning frigate]

Yes but it’s a problem that won’t really be fixed ever, people don’t always want to be in that close style of teamwork and that’s where arty was perfect, tanks should not be solo’d but arty was the perfect spot for someone to sit, listen to coms and pings, do math, and put warheads on foreheads

I think the arty squad is a cool way to make it harder for rando’s to waste munitions, but I wish it didn’t come with all the extra drawbacks of removing guns, forcing commander to reload you, and everything else they did to make it a much less enjoyable experience

Also that’s a harsh judgment to just remove it totally, there’s a lot of people who’s favorite thing about the game is Arty, myself included
I feel like if you don’t like arty then the Vietnam game will be perfect for you, as I doubt they will have arty in that

[mental mantle]

The games entire thing is teamwork and people going solo goes against that and literally ruins the game. I'm cool with hll accommodating more casual play because I play casual, but they have to do something to fully insensitive teamwork and discourage running solo. If someone doesn't want to engage in that then unfortunately they are playing the game wrong. I'm cool with implementing more things to allow non verbal comms because yeah some people aren't comfortable talking to strangers. I wasn't for a long time.
And yes it is harsh but arty has to go, sure it might be fun sometimes but it might be one of the worst mechanics in the game next to nodes in terms of how they are implemented. The entire arty recon loop is abysmal and the map size and lack of real logistics makes arty gameplay just a spam fest. It genuinely has no place in the game
And finally no I have no real interest in the nam game

[manic monolith]

I don't really understand why the primary seat can't reload.

The whole "operating the gun" is actually a 1 person task, as indeed 99% of players playing arty for the last few years has proven.

A second seat to help turn the gun does make sense for the temporary value of this operation.

The only logic I can think of is "consistency with AT guns". A 1 man AT gun would be ridiculously strong; but AT guns are their own balance problem.

[vocal ruin]

Because they keep adding stupid friction to force teamplay in places where teamplay is not desirable