(chemflix) npc cmd permission - negative perms?

[echo junco]

Can I execute a npc command only if a player has a negative permission? Like /npc cmd [cmd] --permissions [perm] false

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(chemflix) npc cmd permission - negative perms?

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why? @echo junco

[echo junco]

Why is this important? I want to execute a different command when the permission is false compared to when the permission is also true.

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because this isn't how permissions should be handled as to the question of "why" - it's just a question initially.

alternatively, it's recommended you not rely on "false" permissions, ie permissions given to players and setting the value to false

if a person has a permission, they own the permission.
when plugins induce concept of permissions owning values, it becomes incredibly unproductive

if a player has a permission that is set to false, they have the permission

the reason why that's important is because that plugin can recognize the permission is set to false; which means literally "they have permission, but also they do not."

!clickcommands

[keen rock]

Info: clickcommands

https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/NPC_Commands

[limber chasm]

the permission node as it's configured is most convenient

[echo junco]

I understand how permissions work, and it wasn't necessary for you to explain it again. However, all of this still doesn't lead to an answer to my question: Is it possible? Is there something not mentioned in the wiki that I might have missed? Or is it simply not feasible? A simple "no" would have sufficed as well.

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it was necessary to explain because you asked why it was important; ignoring the question would of been rude otherwise.

we can create a feature request based on this though, if the developers believe it's valuable to include

i'd wait on fullwall's decision on that consensus but would highly recommend never relying on "negative permission" nodes given my explaination

developers being mcmonkey, aya, and fullwall (or anyone else who wants to contribute) - we'll wait on their answer next

[limber chasm]

something else i can notate otherwise until we get a response also, it's currently a 'no' as you requested until it became a real feature but Denizen could handle this properly if you'd like a workaround for it to be possible otherwise

i'd happily write the script you'd need for it now and help you verify it works

anything further than that may require you to eventually learn the Denizen language if you decided to enhance the script or something

but what you're requesting is simple enough that im happy to help you with

here's more information on Denizen if you are considering the idea:

!getstarted

[keen rock]

Info: getstarted

Hey there! Welcome to Denizen!
To get started learning Denizen, we recommend you follow the beginner's guide: https://guide.denizenscript.com/
Also, feel free to browse scripts or view discussions on the forum: https://forum.denizenscript.com/
And of course... don't be afraid to ask questions here on this Discord!

[limber chasm]

the developers for citizens and denizen ensure theyre perfectly compatible

[limber chasm]

It may also be worth noting that a lot of permission plugins That don't support negative permission nodes may not handle them very well if there was ever a change

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