design contest chat

[toxic ocean]

For context did it actually name it because of the city.

[graceful bridge]

yes

[desert trail]

[lament skiff]

1 hour alert

[elfin venture]

gg

[slow axle]

ggs

[toxic ocean]

Good job Meekoz for earning nothing!

Because they already have Master of Design :>

GG though.

[median patio]

gg

architect voting is seperate from player voting right?

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

I wonder when will the voting happen, that'd be cool. Also reading feedback from the architects is amazingly satisfying to me.

[tired vapor]

they won bragging right

the most important prize

[toxic ocean]

They already had that from Jan DC

The more the merrier?

[grizzled sequoia]

8 more to go to become architect 😅, or 7 based on master of design I suppose to have

[flint abyss]

did architects use this time to vote on the ships on their side ?

sorry, just thought of efficient use of time, but hey, you could do normal voting first

[elfin venture]

is that how it works? you win 10 contests and become architect

lmao

[inner basalt]

Congratulation,Meekoz! @grizzled sequoia

[grizzled sequoia]

Yes, but in a row

[grizzled sequoia]

Thanks

[toxic ocean]

I'd say something something you'll face fierce resistance but I was so unpopular in the votes that I won't even lie to myself.

[elfin venture]

Idk 3rd's pretty good

[tribal heath]

Rednax received a quite large amount of votes, which is somewhat surprising personally for me.

[elfin venture]

I very intentionally went for ships with unusual and interesting paint and design, and it worked it seems

[slow axle]

I had enough votes for 4th place and I'm very happy with it that way ^-^

Lesson learned, I will do lightwork next time.

[inner basalt]

5th!I think it's good enough for first time =u=,

i really need more practice. Bad on big ships like 2-3m

[mortal cave]

Why does that come as a surprise?

[tribal heath]

I don't find their ships particularly outstanding aesthetically-wise compared to the ships of Ctrl, Nick or Xsnow, nothing to say about Meekoz.

[mortal cave]

...

[elfin venture]

I think my ships are most outstanding conceptually, but I still think I did well aesthetically
Each to their own I guess

[flint abyss]

remember how i vote ?
that's the reason. everybody has their own standards.

[small breach]

ye but like nick did a whole ass planet (xsnow did too but i think it's worse than nick's anyway), meekoz had the ultra nightmare difficulty skull from doom eternal as a ship and jewjuice with some of the best shading i've ever seen

[elfin venture]

the Collection is practically a Cosmoteer version of Darkest Dungeon's The Collector
It's still its own thing but the somewhat necromantic aesthetic, minion summoning but kind of weak without minions, description, and name are all similar

also, tractor tractor beam

Faraday Cage was the least inventive ship and the design i'm least happy with but it makes up for it with what I think is some of my best light usage and I used my "default" paintstyle for that exact reason - it's the "safe ship" in case Forcecage and the Collection didn't go as well as I wanted

[median patio]

I came in 6th tied with ctrl

[elfin venture]

i think you mean tied with jewjuice

but yea

[lament skiff]

I honestly thought my ships woulda been more popular

[elfin venture]

I expected your ships to do better, yea

[inner basalt]

(TBH,I think your work is much better than mine =q=)

[wispy vigil]

My submissions are the filler ones used to make the better ones look better

[toxic ocean]

Looks like my ships werent' unusual or interesting enough T-T

[toxic ocean]

NO you totally did very well aesthetically, but conceptually I don't really know, they feel close to Fringe ships to me with their composition and weaponsystems, especially the second ship.

[slow axle]

You still did better than me

[toxic ocean]

Yeah to be fair yours was unusual and interesting too.

I am not certain, but do believe that I would've had a shot of 1st place had I finished Nuclear Abomination.

[flint abyss]

is here the whining competition ?

[lament skiff]

no whining spotted yet

[flint abyss]

oh damn :'(

[lament skiff]

feel free to i guess

[flint abyss]

lol

[flint abyss]

they are interesting, but that's not a big part of my standard of voting.

[toxic ocean]

Yes yes you'd probably rather vote for left than right

💀

[flint abyss]

in fact...

i would have voted for the right one if it didn't have writing on it.

[toxic ocean]

Do you have anything against billboards, dawg?

[flint abyss]

yes

[toxic ocean]

elaboratify

[flint abyss]

i just don't like it.
looks out of place to me

[toxic ocean]

something something ''real life ship would not have billboard on it''

Real life ship also wouldn't have nukes that punch 2 metre wide holes.

[bronze citrus]

i am with xderp big lettering on ships without any reason is odd

[toxic ocean]

Well who told you there's no lore reason.

[flint abyss]

i don't mind writing if it's some very generic stuff on a ship

[bronze citrus]

theyre tactical nukes not hydrogen bombs, and youre in the vaccum of space

[toxic ocean]

They'd still be far stronger.

[bronze citrus]

source?

[toxic ocean]

What's your source that they'd tear 2 metre holes.

[bronze citrus]

youre the one who has to provide reasoning

[toxic ocean]

So you prefer generic ''storage 1 storage 2''

[flint abyss]

like a ship's name on the ship along the side, both sides, or stuff like that that fits into the paint

[toxic ocean]

According to which convention

[bronze citrus]

you used it as an example that its unrealistic

[toxic ocean]

Sure, bad example of unrealistic.

[bronze citrus]

because you brought it up as being unrealistic

[toxic ocean]

Cosmoteer ships are still far from realistic.

[small breach]

kaboom=more than 2m

[toxic ocean]

The wise man has spoken.

[bronze citrus]

actually makes sense and looks cool

[small breach]

lemonade reactors using uranium to generate infinite power

[bronze citrus]

industrialcore

[bronze citrus]

the more unrealistic part is them exploding

[toxic ocean]

So it's just your personally opinion that my billboard ''doesn't look cool''

[bronze citrus]

idk what youre even talking about lol

i just dont like big ahh lettering on ships

[toxic ocean]

I don't know he said how he didn't like my billboard.

[small breach]

bigger than the nukes designed to explode

[bronze citrus]

makes the ship look like a mediocre holiday resort

[toxic ocean]

Comsoteer jumpscare

[bronze citrus]

not something designed to actually fight wars

[toxic ocean]

you're a mediocre holiday resort

[bronze citrus]

oof

[toxic ocean]

To be totally honest that was added because I didn't know what to do with the dead space, present me would have gone with a mural.

But I still think it's cool and stand by my point.

[bronze citrus]

like all i think when i look at glacier peak is "ski resort/winter ride at disneyland" and not in a good way

[small breach]

i think big ass text gives character to ships

[toxic ocean]

It's the name of a mountain in Georgia that housed an ancient defensive complex and a church.

[tribal heath]

It's all is subjective and it's a pointless discussion.

[toxic ocean]

So all I think about it is badassery.

[small breach]

all just to justify me putting them everywhere

(nugg's ships where when i first tried doing it, but also didn't post .ship files for those because i'm not sure nugg is fine with that)

[toxic ocean]

Hope you prefer it, it's now a corporate wasteland.

[small breach]

10/10 would monolith cooperative again

[bronze citrus]

peak

you forgot the numbers 1-6 plastered across the ship though

[bronze citrus]

i like these a bit more

[lament skiff]

for me personally I think writing should generally be avoided on ships

I think if you have a flatter style like spacecats it can work

I think it usually just hampers the suspension of 3d disbelief

[toxic ocean]

except no glacier 💀

[bronze citrus]

yeah

or well things that make sense within the ships geometry like i often did with isocorp

[tired vapor]

no, you're in the nebula air of cosmoteer

[wispy vigil]

All the ships are 2d

[lament skiff]

Huh

[tired vapor]

true!! (i completely disagree but i want to post my ship)

[desert trail]

[desert trail]

[past bramble]

grant i will turn you into cantonese roast goose

[flint abyss]

nom

[toxic ocean]

Delicious.

[desert trail]

[toxic ocean]

Fortunately the newspaper emoji exists.

🗞️

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-bread-goose-bread-gulp-gif-21901748

paper is tasty

[past bramble]

get in

[desert trail]

[desert trail]

-# i wonder if single ship voteing might have been slightly better.....

-# anyway time to sleep ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past bramble]

Would be interesting to see the result of single ship vote

Its good to know which ship is the one doing the work

[lament skiff]

there wasnt a vote for that

unless you meant you wanted one

in which case i agree

[toxic ocean]

True, that's why I liked Blake's polling system, it had MoD awarded for individual best ship and best ''fleet'' (If I remember correctly).

Plus I might have actually won the single ship vote with Ringlord.

[small breach]

wait hold on will there be a walt's pick?

[desert trail]

i hope so

[lament skiff]

no reason for it

there wasnt a contest to see which ships get in

[flint abyss]

those are seperate things. community voting has nothing to do with getting into the campaign. that's the architects votes

[lament skiff]

yeah

[desert trail]

[lament skiff]

Pay shunce

[mortal cave]

I would like to say that it's actually been somewhat helpful to be reminded with subtle goose messages and I thank you Admral_Grant accordingly

[desert trail]

oh thats not me, thats the goose,

he just randomly lurks about....

-# sometimes when i go upstairs to get water i see him lurking at the top of the stairs

-#

honistly he's chill,

i would abosoultely win in a fight

-# unless he has a knife.....

[toxic ocean]

Fortunately I still have my 15 years old Flavourwave oven and it works like a charm c:<

[desert trail]

🪿

oh no hes back, quick stuff him in the oven to dely judgment day

[toxic ocean]

Flavourwave was practically MADE for this thing.

Oooh I can already imagine THE JUICY SMELL 😋

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-attack-gif-26985079

i need some hlep catching hhim

https://tenor.com/view/chase-chased-run-mad-angry-gif-15500219

[toxic ocean]

1000 ducks won't be enough.

[desert trail]

and.... now i am stuck in the car....

[toxic ocean]

Haha

[desert trail]

[desert trail]

[past bramble]

when we getting the who gets in and not

[vernal lance]

saris might be forestalling acting upon the architect's vote

[toxic ocean]

Architects are probably a hard group to comeby together.

[desert trail]

[toxic ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/mlrs-rockets-artillery-army-military-gif-11288811

[tired vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966491464437727233/1064047897433362452/Discord_634_eatin_play_dough.gif

[flint abyss]

i could totally see air eating playdoh

[bronze citrus]

it already likes eating deoderant

[desert trail]

[tired vapor]

playdoh too salty

[flint abyss]

fair

[desert trail]

[vernal lance]

grant singlehandedly keeping the design contest chat alive by posting irrelevant content

[wispy vigil]

Hmmm

[desert trail]

[inner basalt]

lol

[toxic ocean]

Necroposting is a portmanteau, being the combination of Necros, Latin for death, and ''Posting,'' an Internet Neoism that implies writing a message and sending it online via text form. In internet slang terminology, Necroposting means reawakening a conversation that has long died down for no reason and contributing nothing of importance towards the subject matter in question.

[desert trail]

man i love eating a mix of salt'n'vinagar fishees and spicy doritos, that i blended up

[wispy vigil]

Looks like orange slop

[desert trail]

its bloody delicious

[wispy vigil]

Doesn't make it look less sloppier

[tired vapor]

why fish D:

[desert trail]

the cheese crackers

[tired vapor]

salt and vinegar though :vomit:

[desert trail]

rocks and acid

crunchity munchety

[toxic ocean]

You in a flavourwave oven is also bloody delicious.

[wispy vigil]

secretly, every time the vote gets brought up, it gets an extra day of delay added

[toxic ocean]

Thanks for the extra day, Teratron!!

[inner basalt]

Nothing special,just my dinner

[slow axle]

This chat becoming a second off-topic channel is a bad omen

[elfin venture]

saris says turn this channel into off-topic-2 for design contest results

[slow axle]

Saris, you kinda shot yourself a bullet in the foot here imo
But as long as you assume your choices...

[mortal cave]

That message was relevant when I had a part to play. I can't speed up the other architects voting or their interest in it. It's not as if this channel was ever particularly focused anyhow though

[slow axle]

Can we atleast know how many of them voted, and how many are left to go?

[mortal cave]

What difference would it make

[elfin venture]

There's a reason video games have loading bars

doesn't provide any technical benefit but good for the audience

[mortal cave]

Thats a good point but I could riposte with them rarely being perfectly correspondent and hitch at times

I don't care enough though. I'll ping them again and if nothing comes of it devise a different solution

[elfin venture]

doesn't have to be that accurate
I'm sure people would like something even as simple as "over halfway"

[slow axle]

You know, how bars on loading screens are meaning less and make no difference, yet are a must have?

Oh, nevermind I just parroted rednax

[elfin venture]

oh hey i have a greek chorus now

/j

[mortal cave]

Saving or loading icons that are circular in nature are equally popular

[elfin venture]

Windows tries to predict how long file processes take

This feature still exists despite its well known proclivity for absolutely worthless and in fact entirely divorced from reality responses

but i don't wanna argue

[mortal cave]

Is this arguing? I thought it was an interesting discussion...

[elfin venture]

would just be nice to know if we're waiting only a little bit longer or a month

[elfin venture]

is it arguing? im not sure
I erred on the side of caution because arguments have a tendency to self-perpetuate once they start

[slow axle]

I'm not asking names, just the amount
I need to know that the contest is being taken care by most architects and isn't being ignored by 2/3 of them (I am also incredibly grateful you hosted one btw)

[mortal cave]

Thank you for expressing your appreciation

[elfin venture]

now it's my turn to parrot xsnow
thank you for hosting a DC

[mortal cave]

Half the architects have voted. Anything else I could say would be misleading at best and completely wrong at worst

[slow axle]

Thank you

[elfin venture]

ah ok well that's pretty good indicator of pgoress

thanks

[mortal cave]

Anyway though

[elfin venture]

"pgoress" i can English good

[mortal cave]

Engutsg ismt awn eweasly longauge

[elfin venture]

Btu hte bueaty fo hmuan aptern rcoegnitoin is htat ti ltes us raed borekn txet naywyas

[slow axle]

You two are doing horrors to dyslexia ._.

[elfin venture]

from what i know, isn't that actually kind of similar to what the condition is like?

[mortal cave]

L tsrngly agrahe ym rfidne

You'll need dyslexia to read this text

[elfin venture]

i was just about to say i couldn't read that, and then understood it

"I strongly agree my friend"

thing is you've changed too many letters the human pattern recognition works best (i think; no formal backing here) when its just that the letters are jumbled up, not entirely changed

[mortal cave]

You still understood it :shrug

[elfin venture]

oh i did but it was extremely difficult

[desert trail]

i cant spell very well, so it was somewhat easy to figrure out what it was

kinda

[inner basalt]

Sorry lol just for joke

[tired vapor]

it's useful when i'm zipping 50000 text files all of approximately the same size

[toxic ocean]

I can't believe sicken posting a random photo of a (from the looks of it) dish caused into such a fun convo. Too bad I wasn't there 😔

[slow axle]

Shicken*

[inner basalt]

lol

[hexed prism]

Good god.

Did you type that out yourself or did you use some sort of word scrambler?

[elfin venture]

I typed it out myself and it was extremely difficult

[hexed prism]

I can imagine.
Or not because I can't imagine I could ever attempt that and not go insane.

Heh.

[toxic ocean]

Ex-autocorrect-cuse me

[toxic ocean]

The fact I can read this is concerning

I i n f a c t d o n o t h a v e d y s l e x i a

[elfin venture]

that's just hte bueaty fo hmuan aptern rcoegnitoin

[toxic ocean]

Yse sye sey i udnrsetdna uyo

[raven isle]

oh damn your right, even i can read that

[desert trail]

it english, can read half gone, even sentence

[toxic ocean]

absolutely agree you

[desert trail]

exact, can word,

[inner basalt]

I think both in most languages?

[desert trail]

precise

[elfin venture]

know right? english such amazing language

[desert trail]

day party cousin drive, fun fire, home night

[desert trail]

how day other humans?

[flint basin]

I do declare that the present day of which is ending for the location of which I ham currently having, was a fantastic example of the extraodinary condition that is life

[elfin venture]

what

[toxic ocean]

It's a butchered version of ''Trains great forever'' which is one of the most 🇬🇧 things to say considering they invented trains and spearheaded the industrial revolution.

---

Anyways can we stop clogging this channel? It has an endlessly repeating tendancy of spiralling into off topic.

[lament skiff]

@mortal cave do you intend to put a deadline on architect voting or are we gonna be stuck in limbo until someone randomly decides to vote

[simple valve]

Cosmopyr's gonna vote aaaaany second now

[toxic ocean]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAANY second now!

[desert trail]

any century now.....

[misty lark]

aaany moment

[raven socket]

I think everyone's just collectively losing it

[desert trail]

🇼 🇪

[raven socket]

i can confirm, this is true

[desert trail]

[toxic ocean]

---

@mortal cave Sorry to bother, but I'm curious, are the ship re-submissions from this https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1081651425999863949 thread still relevant? Will they ever be changed and will they be re-evaluated for Career inclusion if they weren't given a greenlight first time?

[tired vapor]

yeah i don't think any of my submissions have been updated lol

[toxic ocean]

In fact none of them have been.

[toxic ocean]

(Sarees is yet to answer 😔)

[lament skiff]

[tepid quartz]

[toxic ocean]

Mmm mghmmgh juicy glue

[tepid quartz]

Erm

[desert trail]

[sage citrus]

is that a design contest for classic I see?

[lament skiff]

If you’re talking about mine, i didn’t specify

[sage citrus]

ah, fair enough

[novel coyote]

made a skull but now I don't know how to turn it into a ship

[toxic ocean]

Do the Nick thing of plonking it on the face of a DC wall >:]

[flint abyss]

i wanted to make a ship for the halloween booty but i think i'm bad at it XD

[lament skiff]

I think you still should

[desert trail]

it doesint look that bad

it looks quite good

[slow axle]

Remember though, Concrete is the only judge

[lament skiff]

indeed

[tepid quartz]

Can people still express their opinions? Or nah

[flint abyss]

well, yes, but if they will be considered is an other thing

[median patio]

i feel like you could make some cool shapes if you just use some armor and structure and make that look even better

[small breach]

#1294730520151724082 message if anyone cares i painted this while listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYpZWEVr5HA, the music was really important in making it look good

[elfin venture]

Is Plaus going to release footage of the 200k AI tournament?

[lament skiff]

Wrong chat?

[elfin venture]

huh, there's a tournament chat

i didn't notice that, somehow

[past bramble]

@elfin venture what do you mean by no reactors allowed?

wait thats not cy

sorry

@last mountain

[last mountain]

you can use capacitors

just no reactors

[past bramble]

are we supose to use the TB bug?

[last mountain]

no

just capacitors

[desert trail]

[lament skiff]

its joever

[toxic ocean]

(Go dm a goose to Saris)

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-evil-laugh-evil-racoon-hehehehe-muhahaha-gif-25486258

[toxic ocean]

Oh he's gonna kill me.

[desert trail]

lol

[toxic ocean]

But at least he'll answer maybe?

[desert trail]

that is the hopes

[lament skiff]

Saris responds to pings

usually

[tribal heath]

Half of the architect have voted. Still.

...For those who interested

[tired vapor]

\🎉(?)

[toxic ocean]

Ayy

Also I wonder why are architects just so hard to comeby (as in get them involved)

[tribal heath]

IRL stuff I guess

[toxic ocean]

Makes sense.

[wispy vigil]

It'll be 2025 by the time this gets sorted

[toxic ocean]

Don't you even doubt it.

[slow axle]

I'd like to keep some hopes around

[lament skiff]

23 hrs left for the Halloween bounty

[wispy vigil]

maybe there should be doubt, when it ends up being 2026 by the time it's done

[toxic ocean]

Well said my eldritch friend...

[simple valve]

I'm pretty sure Cosmopyr will vote before all the current architects (that haven't voted yet)

[tired vapor]

we should bet on voting order

[strange mango]

i am happy to say i will be hosting again, see you all in 2 days

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-woooo-yeah-baby-gif-24480925

[toxic ocean]

Finally, a competent host!

(Joke)

[lament skiff]

[elfin venture]

ooh a station DC

how convenient : )

also since ur typing blake
it says aim for around one 4x4 for every resource in the game, we don't need to actually assign those resources to the stations right?

just enough to theoretically carry that much

[strange mango]

you dont need to asign them, but it might make counting them easyer for me

also, feedback on how i host this context is always welcome, its been a while since i did this so i might be a bit rusty here and there

[elfin venture]

i also assume its just in the design contest submissions channel

[strange mango]

yes, use https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1059085469708734515 for submissions

[elfin venture]

oh, btw, i just counted the number of resources - there are 21
so you need 21 4x4s of storage, or 336 storage tiles, or enough storage space for 6,720 hyperium

[strange mango]

okay that might be a bit much havent had the chance to play much resently due to the treatment, so i kinda just autopiloted to "big number is big"

[elfin venture]

small career trade stations have like twice that lmao

[strange mango]

never mind what i said then lol

[elfin venture]

as they generally carry like 8 4x4s of 4 diff resources - hypercoils, coils, steel, ammo - plus some hyperium and plenty of extra storage

i have freighters approaching that capacity but a ship would still need to be around 600k realistically

i think some of the largest Monolith freighters actually have that much too lol

but yea

off to be the first submission

[simple valve]

based on small monolith trade stations, the minimum amount of 4x4 storage rooms is around: 8 for steel, 8 for coils, 8 for hypercoils, 4 for ammo and 8 empty ones

ofc some stations have slightly more or less

[elfin venture]

this means that under blake's rules you can have smaller stations than normally show up in career

which i think is fine

[simple valve]

yeah I guess so

I did recently just finish a station for my faction that follows the career rules

now I just need to come up with a name for the faction, and some more defense platforms for the screenshot

[elfin venture]

damn me too

[simple valve]

also @strange mango can we have modded decal logos if we're doing custom faction stations? Or should I stick with
LO
GO

made from letter decals

[vernal lance]

aw no arms depots

[elfin venture]

huh? u can do an arms depot

[strange mango]

mods in general arnt alowed

[elfin venture]

itll just need to be bigger to fit the requisite storage

[simple valve]

Ok, saves me the trouble of actually coming up and creating a logo for the faction

[vernal lance]

it isn't in the essence of a depot to have beacons

[elfin venture]

oh you're referring to that

surely its not that big of a dealbreaker

[toxic ocean]

Oh my

I must station

I have much idea good

[elfin venture]

you must move

don't be stationary

... thats kinda reaching honestly but whatever i dont care

[toxic ocean]

Too bad I don't have a stationload of time on my hands.

[elfin venture]

keep it symmetrical

[toxic ocean]

Asymmetry is more of my jam on stations.

I might just end up submitting Iveria if I can't make one.

[elfin venture]

or, at least, make sure you can copy paste stuff

source: i made a station where i couldn't do large scale copy pastes and i couldn't use mirror
and while the station is great it was time consuming to make

[toxic ocean]

Obviously.

[toxic ocean]

I might make a Bastion of Fools large FSR Arms Depot

[elfin venture]

oh no

[slow axle]

Fortunately I already have half a design

...Quarter of a design actually? Oh gosh

[desert trail]

well i was planing on makeing more stations for my faction,

hmmmm..... do i go eney meeny miney moe, or do i make more stations.....

[elfin venture]

eeny meeny miney moe the biggest station

[desert trail]

my thoughts exactly lol

[elfin venture]

hm...

i think vampweed has better paint and stuff but Necromancer has such an amazing shape while vampweed's 4 way pyramid is very generic

[desert trail]

yep, also one of them being a combat station and the other being a civilan station

[elfin venture]

vampweed's large enough that i don't think it'll have any issues holding enough stuff

same with necromancer i'd think

[desert trail]

yep and yep lol

@strange mango does rule 4 include being larger then the build grid?

[vernal lance]

it's probably accounting for huge ships specifically

or just no limit at all

besides, there's more than 0 stations larger than the 120x120 grid anyway

[strange mango]

well, given that there are build in stations larger than the grit, im willing to make an exeption there, as long you wont submit something so big it crashes the game

[inner basalt]

Sorry for my bad English,but what colabs mean

[desert trail]

working with another person

[strange mango]

its short for collaborative, in this context, it means working on a submission with another person

typically either for fun, or to make something bigger than one person could make

[toxic ocean]

Many people work.

[inner basalt]

Giot it!

Thanks

[toxic ocean]

(literally me)

[inner basalt]

I have some intersting ideas....But I feel like I might not finish it

[toxic ocean]

Hey, maybe we collab now, like we wanted?

I have some cool ideas like you but alone wouldn't be able to finish them, plus working together very fun.

[inner basalt]

Honestly, I usually done alone, or two people doing the same thing and picking the best

Not sure exactly how cooperation should be done

The main reason I don't know if I can do it is because I don't like to do it for a specific purpose. So I might post my previous space station

[inner basalt]

So any good ideas for it?

[toxic ocean]

I was thinking of using the iconic Medium cabal arms depot logic to make an omni-directional beam with a singular central core, in the shape of a ringed planet, with the rings decorated by a soaring circular mosaic depicting the history of Sol. Basically a huge Cabal of Sol memorial of sorts, but the idea is far too ambitious for me to embark on myself.

[toxic ocean]

Why, though? You don't like me?

[inner basalt]

No

Just don't know how to collab

[toxic ocean]

I don't know it that well anyways, the real good thing about it is figuring out on the way. Fortunately with Cosmoteer it's extremely easy to hop in a collaborative creative lobby.

[inner basalt]

I prefer that you can make a semi-finished product, and then I finish the rest of it.Because I'm not that focused

It's like. I've been in here for almost half an hour and paint nothing

[toxic ocean]

I can relate 😔

Anyways I'd one day love to have a gigantic all-community art ship megaproject, would be so much fun and I've done so many sketches of what that might look like.

[desert trail]

i bet that would be realy cool

just a giant wall of grafiti

[inner basalt]

That sounds cool

[desert trail]

a bit sad that we'd only have 4 colors to work with, but thanks to lights we can technicaly have more

[spring haven]

When docking is added, we'd have more.

[inner basalt]

I honestly think the best way to work together is for two people to build the same ship choose the better one, and learn from each other along the way

There are several versions that I deleted and can't find, but if you can believe it, there are about 20 versions of this ship

[desert trail]

oh right, admitadly not quite sure how it'd work, but that would probibly help a lot

[toxic ocean]

Are you implying we already don't?

😏

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[toxic ocean]

I myself am a debunking of the docking doesn't exist yet statement xd

[tired vapor]

for ai?

[grizzled sequoia]

I have almost the same Idea as yours, but idk if I'm able to finish it coz I have other things to do, if I can't make it, maybe I'll just submit yggdrasil

[inner basalt]

I may submit old works if I can't finish them

[inner basalt]

Cool,which one?

[elfin venture]

damn

eh the vine fringe probably wouldn't have been that good a fit anyways since its fringe first nature second

[lament skiff]

have i seen it

[lament skiff]

ah

i have

was it supposed to look like mossy? I assumed just military camo type deal

[elfin venture]

yea

hence the first ship being named Bonevine

[lament skiff]

ah

[elfin venture]

and the quotes in the ship descs are all attributed to a biologist

[lament skiff]

I can kinda see them being like mossy rocks

[grizzled sequoia]

The dragon

[inner basalt]

I'll do the other one first to avoid repetition

[grizzled sequoia]

No, u are fine to do the dragon too, it's just similar concept bit different execution, and idk if I'm able to finish it

[inner basalt]

OK

[novel coyote]

I wonder if I could make a nature themed station and submit it for both contests

[lament skiff]

good lucj

i wont stop u

[elfin venture]

lmao yes

[grizzled sequoia]

Wait, I can just submit this for both 😂

[elfin venture]

ah fuck we're cooked aren't we

Yggdrasil is too fire

[lament skiff]

nah rule 4 forbids it for mine

[elfin venture]

oh rightt i forgor

[vernal lance]

everytime i see a meekoz ship inside a contest channel i get reminded that giving up and not going through with the contest is the most optimal decision, saving time, energy, and thinking power

[mortal cave]

Maybe, but the point of doing anything is enjoyment in your own participation

[strange mango]

true that, please dont quit from the get go based of anothers submission, the point is to have fun in a friendly competition

[wispy vigil]

The best type of competition is one, where there's just a single participant

[strange mango]

cant say i agree with that

[desert trail]

we realy do need to get walt to hire meekoz dont we

[desert trail]

i had a thought.... i have way too mutch time on my hands, i could probibly help make a proto type that you then could trim and finalize

the main thing i'm trying to think is what colors would we use.... i'd assume we want black, probibly for layer 3, but for the other ones i dont know

[desert trail]

anyway i made a limerick

The bricks we lay keep harm at bay,
Protect ourselves to live and play.
By themselves; There rather small,
But joined together; Strong and tall.
A work of art we do portray, A mural made of clay.

[toxic ocean]

I'd say neutral low opacity colours and the main accent job will be carried over to our Lord and saviour rooflights.

[desert trail]

grey, light grey and white?

[toxic ocean]

Pretty much, maybe in a bluish hue.

[desert trail]

hmm even with everyone getting an 12x7 space it still feels like it needs more space, also i dont know if we want it as inividual sections or just one big rectangel that they merge together with

-# and discord is being an idiot and not desplaying the picture proporly

therewego

[desert trail]

le' hmmm...

i feel like a giant castile wall named 'Mural of the Last Stand' is a cool idea....

[desert trail]

who do we know thats good at ion cores?

[small breach]

iontinker probably

[lament skiff]

i am confident

Unless you need some secret tech i think i can help with anything you need, I’ve built cores in all sorts of shapes and sizes

[inner basalt]

Maybe but it's also cool and fun to try to challenge him

[toxic ocean]

@normal kite Go help this man make his keep

[normal kite]

whatcha need

if you’ve got an emitter layout I’ll manage the prisms easily

[desert trail]

alrighty i made a core for the ship, if you can do the prisms for it that would be much appreciated.

also if you want chouse a brick and make some art work on it absolutely do that, just make sure if you use lights to not bleed the color from them onto other bricks

[elfin venture]

what colour scheme is being used on this? since that may be an issue

[desert trail]

nick suggested for me to use neutral colors, so it has white, light grey, grey and black

[elfin venture]

ah ok thats fair

isn't this offtopic though

[desert trail]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

actualy maybe i should make a thread or something

[lament skiff]

is this even a design contest submission lol

[elfin venture]

no

[toxic ocean]

Waait one second you're making this for me?
And also Castle.... For the station contest right? Then why is it using mrt...

[toxic ocean]

Oh wait-

I am now in a state that scientists would describe as severe confusion.

[desert trail]

its more of an comunity ship, i think you had sugested something like a ship that we get a lot of people to make little bits of art work to make a giant mural

i also already have a station for the contest lol

[normal kite]

the prisms are still bugged so you gotta fix some

[lament skiff]

@tired vapor read rule 4 pls

[tired vapor]

:(((((((((

[median patio]

hmmm i might make something

[strange mango]

please try to stay on topic, while it is a nice looking project, and i encurage you to keep working on it, if the castle station isnt meant to be your submission, which i assume it isnt given you already submitted, then it doesnt belong in this chat

that said, if you intend on submitting this instead and deleting your previous submission, then it is allowed

[toxic ocean]

You sillyhead just make another pumpken smiely face

[tired vapor]

true

[grizzled sequoia]

@lament skiff does fantasy creature count?

[lament skiff]

i guess

[slow axle]

@lament skiff Does space count

[lament skiff]

Naur

[slow axle]

naur?

[lament skiff]

no lol

[slow axle]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[lament skiff]

[slow axle]

@lament skiff Can this one applies?

[lament skiff]

yeah

[slow axle]

🎉

I'll sumit it later with a glamor shot, and I will probably submit bigger ones if they get done. In the main time this shall be my submission

[lament skiff]

sweet :)

[toxic ocean]

Oooo so amethysty!

[slow axle]

Thank you :D Glad I could fix it compared to my two previous attempts

[novel coyote]

shoulda done the interior after the paint
now I'll have to redo it or ignore it not lining up

[slow axle]

My advice would be to ignore

[elfin venture]

"No art piece ships" claims another

[inner basalt]

Love this

[toxic ocean]

😔

What is the point of art if you don't piece

[tepid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-true-true-cloaked-true-cloakedyoshi-tdtntor-3-gif-3725271157191976135

[lament skiff]

Visually this is goated but is this actually gonna be a ship

or is this for blakes

[novel coyote]

no it'll be a ship

I'll find a way

well a station counts right

[lament skiff]

yeah if it can actually function as one

[slow axle]

Hey, doesn't it count as a ship as long it can move forward and has at least one small blaster?

[novel coyote]

fully functional ship

[past bramble]

a ship with a floating art installation as its centre

[toxic ocean]

You guys have unintentionally summoned me, now face my eldrtich wrath

ყველასგაგანადგურებთყველასგაგანადგურებთყველასგაგანადგურებთყველასგაგანადგურებთყველასგაგანადგურებთ

[wispy vigil]

Don't go speaking that Khmer here Nickolas

[desert trail]

ibac naasad jate mird, jate'shya mird cuyir pirimmur atnor mirshe.

ra gar liser shi Koperar kaysh.

mayen borarir

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic ocean]

Ooga wooga

[desert trail]

ibac's nayc mando'a gar utreekkov, cuyir gar jor'lek par ibac?

[toxic ocean]

Helo, I can speak caveman too!

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-the-mandalorian-head-shake-leave-gif-16072669

ner'vod, ibic cuyir mando'a, nayc ruus jag...

chaavla sa shebs be'striili

[lament skiff]

anyways, @novel coyote no i would not consider a few thrusters bolted onto a giant art piece to be a ship

[novel coyote]

don't worry I would never submit that thing

[slow axle]

@lament skiff My darling, which ship do you prefer

[strange mango]

if i where the host being asked that, id say to pick whichever ship you prefer, or to ask other participants, as a host i should probably not let my opinion influence what gets submitted

[lament skiff]

i forgor to reply

but yes blake is correct

[toxic ocean]

(What if host didn't want you to win so they intentionally throw you under the bus and pick the one they like less (evil))

[lament skiff]

everyone would win if I had the money to give that many steam games out

[slow axle]

Well, lol, I thought I could cheese that one but turns out I can't just ask~

I prefer the left one, though the cosmoteer community taught me that bigger = better so I'll summit whatever is larger

[toxic ocean]

The fact that you have enough to just hand it out to random shipmakers is already impressive.

I love it, good way to incite players to make cool stuff.

I think if Walt campaigned our mostly community-run contests like the tourneys and the DCs better, he could really create a larger sample of an active community that'd have a higher chance of hooking other players and growing as a result.

Like, if he made official stately design contests, maybe even with money prise, and advertised it everywhere.

I mean, the money prize wouldn't even be a net negative, because the winners' ships would most likely be kickass and you already pay architects damn money to make kickass ships.

It makes sense, doesn't it?

I hope this wouldn't cause the architects to revolt as some of their income would be cut

[lament skiff]

appreciate it, but I would like to hand out more

If more interest is gained in my bounties I am gonna try to reach out to people to hopefully provide more prizes

like free ship paintings like other contests have had for rewards

[median patio]

I gotta lock in the contest ends soon

Idk what in gonna build but I'm gonna cook something

[lament skiff]

a tree or a bird perhaps

[toxic ocean]

Would a giant nazi eagle count

[strange mango]

i assume thats a joke, but just in case, anything nazi would fall under inapropriate, and as such would not be allowed in my contests

[toxic ocean]

I don't mean outright fascism of course, I hate that shit, I mean eagle in a similar pose which I've done several experiments upon.

This guy

[strange mango]

okay fair, but i would still be carefull when taking this kind of stuff as inspiration

[toxic ocean]

True.

[desert trail]

that looks more like a totem poll topper then something bad

[strange mango]

but to be clear, please dont submit anything based on/inspired by real live tradegy to my contests, id rather be save than sorry

[toxic ocean]

And what makes you think I'd do something like that?

I most likely don't have time to participate in either of contests anyways.

Too busy

[strange mango]

im just making a general statement in case anyone has any funny ideas, im not accusing you in particular

[toxic ocean]

#1294730520151724082 message Actually this made me realize that the blue background of Classic is really damn good, very subtle yet all-encompassing and makes the ship pop out to the foreground.

All the others are way too extreme and hurt the eyes.

[slow axle]

I admit it might be the best one but it's also the only one I choosed to never appear unless I manually set it to be
In-game name is "purple spotted" by the way

I specifically choosed the brighter ones but classic has twice as many backgrounds as modern and most of them are similar looking to purple spotted

[toxic ocean]

I'd love more bg variety honestly.

[slow axle]

You can mod them in pretty easily

[toxic ocean]

I mean vanilla ones

[toxic ocean]

When does station contest end?

@strange mango Is there even a time left to participate?

[strange mango]

you have till the first of december to submit

[toxic ocean]

I see

I might make a cool Star Fort looking thingy idk

I had far cooler ideas but no time to realize.

[strange mango]

it happens to the best of us, there will always be a next time, i dont think this will be the only station contest ill be holding

[toxic ocean]

Not sure what you mean by happens to best of us in this case, but yeah.

[strange mango]

i mean having more ideas than you can turn into finished creations being a pretty common experience, at least among artists

[slow axle]

Running out of time is also pretty common
Same, brother

[novel coyote]

which one do you all think looks better, smaller storages to try to line up better, or bigger ones which will probably look less noisy?

[slow axle]

Are both in their final forms?

[novel coyote]

no I haven't finished filling either of them

[desert trail]

probibly the larger ones? mostly due to more serfice aryia and less windows

[novel coyote]

yeah thats what I'm thinking aswell

[desert trail]

it looks prity cool so far

[small breach]

smaller ones to line up

i like the aesthetic they give

[small breach]

it's less windows but they're more jarring

[tired vapor]

big

[elfin venture]

ooh i really like this new contest idea from xsnow

[toxic ocean]

Me swooping in to the contest only to repaint the ship I was supposed to repaint for almost 2 years now:

visible confusion

[lament skiff]

I could repaint khyber with my eyes closed atp

[elfin venture]

im up for this but theres a lot of details we dont know yet

can you use a diff colour scheme? must it be painted as the same faction?

[lament skiff]

I assume goal is to paint differently

Not same but better

[slow axle]

I aiming at offering a lot of freedom of course, as I am not expecting a lot of participants, & because I don't want to restrict the contest to a few elites that actually knows how to beat the architects at their own game (painting in faction's styles), but that is indeed the intent

[grizzled sequoia]

Seasonal leaves

[inner basalt]

Love it

[strange mango]

please avoid talking in the submissions channel, its only for submiting

(i already removed the post i was refering too)

[toxic ocean]

😔

Rip the instance of me getting flashbanged by Mung's flower thingy.

[median patio]

i really gotta pull something out of my ass now dont i

i got a idea now

hopefully it works out

🙏

[lament skiff]

@slow axle you posted 2 submissions, which one are you gonna keep?

[slow axle]

Ummm sorry I forgot to mention it, the last one please

[quasi thistle]

oh, a good thing I didnt make a second submission xD

[slow axle]

"GUNDAM²" the one with the railgun

[median patio]

Wait I forgor i thought the contest ended at the end of the month

Aw man

Guess it's station time

[strange mango]

@inner basaltim getting an error trying to load Sundial in the game, i noticed its not a .ship file, could you share the .ship so i can add it to the showcase save?

[inner basalt]

ops

[inner basalt]

I'm so sorry... I don't know what happened. But this file should be fine

[strange mango]

thank you, it happens, no need to be sorry

[strange mango]

today is a freinds birthday, so i wont be able to respond during the party as that would be rude to my freind, ill get to any questions and submisions as soon as i can but it will likely be at the end of the day

[tepid quartz]

Happy birthday to your friend! :D

🎉

[desert trail]

hope they have a good birthday

[inner basalt]

Happy birthday to your friend!!!!!

[desert trail]

meekoz has posted

[toxic ocean]

sigh

And I was JUST starting to shape up my starfort too! :c

[desert trail]

worst part is you only have 4 days

[slow axle]

Well excuse me but I think 日晷 & Black Lotus get the cake
As much as the dragons shines both flowers shines brighter

Still amazing works from all of you

[desert trail]

i'd honistly be happy with 4th place or something like that...

[toxic ocean]

oh. no. what. am. i. gonna. do.

i.

sm.

am.

so

sc ared

[desert trail]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lament skiff]

When faced with a strong opponent it’s an opportunity to rise to greater heights

[inner basalt]

I'm ashamed that I didn't even finish a new piece, but submitted an old oneStill working on the mod of add more ships for offical factions

[wispy vigil]

Or instead to just stay doing what looks best to yourself

[elfin venture]

@strange mango am i allowed to vote for my own submission

[strange mango]

yes

[elfin venture]

assuming i vote for other things too not just one submission

[elfin venture]

nice

[strange mango]

its imposible to vote for just one submission spesifically so you cant only self vote, so i might as well allow self votes so all participants get the same advantage from it

[slow axle]

I must mention that, especially pvp players, cannot mention a single ship from the built-ins, and that it's easy to search it on google

Myself had to look it up because I remember shapes, not names. I just choosed my favourite ball of all of cabal

[small breach]

but there are really memorable builtins still

and i don't think it's meant to stop people who know built ins even exist and what they are, just people who have no idea what cosmo is

[strange mango]

the idea was to look at the ingame library, but google might complicate that

still, its beter than no saveguards at all, the question alone might confuse those who dont play the game at all. im still trying new things when it comes to comfirming voters owning the game, so the feedback is helpfull

[simple valve]

any reason why some stations have resources while others don't

or just an accident

I noticed my station didn't have them despite having assignments

[strange mango]

no idea, i loaded them all straight from discord, eitherway it doesnt matter much, there only needed to be room for recources

[simple valve]

yeah

[toxic ocean]

Aww, submissions have closed, and I was almost done with mine already

Eh, not like I cared.

Welp, here's my customs depot

[simple valve]

nick I think you need to start working on ships before the tournament is even announced

[desert trail]

technicaly i could use arclight right? its technicaly a builtin due to the builtin example mod

-# (i didnt use it but it was a funny idea i had)

[strange mango]

please dont use any out of the box ships for the verification question, that may result in your vote falsely getting flagged as invalid

[desert trail]

[toxic ocean]

Pavloydus unfortunately I am very busy most of the time and can't play cosmo.

[misty lark]

new paint contest cool

[desert trail]

it should be interesting

@slow axle are we alowed to upgrade the internals? things like upgradeing all the small hyper drives to a pair of mediums? i'd assume things like weapons, thrusters, controll rooms and storage should stay were they are

[slow axle]

You can though I don't see a point.
And yes weapons thrusters & control room cannot be moved through any means. That would be too easy otherwise

If upgrading hyperdrives help your paint, or you feel unable to work on a ship that is not optimized to your standards, feel free to change it.
But again, keep it to a minimum, that's all I ask

[desert trail]

okedoke, thanks

-# time to go on an ocd fueled rampage and weave all the armor

[novel coyote]

I wish I could have joined this it looks like a lot of fun

[lament skiff]

Wdym?

it was just announced

[bronze citrus]

though i doubt i would win it repainting guardian as isocorp should be relatively easy

[desert trail]

probibly

i'm halfish way done painting it in blackwolf style, the only real changes ive made are internal things like walkways, crew, fire, hyperdrives and some bits of armor
as for the external things the only thing other then the stucture is 6 peces of arm+str triangel

its realy interesting how only changeing the structure and paint can make it look way diferent

[grizzled sequoia]

Oh, we can change the exterior outline that much? And structure?

[desert trail]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[late zenith]

I wonder what built in I should slap the fog style paintjob onto

[tired vapor]

@slow axle are we allowed

also saris did not make the document format

iirc polarbear did

[forest peak]

me is totally in the mood for painting and i will do a "Valor Style" Paint for the Guardian

[elfin venture]

i think it has to be Guardian

[elfin venture]

holy shit the blackwolf guardian actually looks so good

excellent work i think its one of your best so far honestly, the circular and disarrayed motifs are very well done

time for Fringe Guardian

[elfin venture]

trying my hand at the Guardian

[vernal lance]

hmm

picking a style is the hardest task

[grizzled sequoia]

Just make a new one

[slow axle]

What a creative use of structures! I absolutely love it!
You make me no regret to have allowed structure edits

There is, however, one part of the ship I feel that look cheaty; the use of singles 1x1 triangles/structure blocks that are only meant to modulate the shape. Same goes for the prongs on the bottom of the ship, though those are less bad
Nonetheless, I don't think it would've work for any other schemes and I appreciate creativity

To clarify myself, there is a subjective difference between decorative structure I.E. the one in ion cores & structual structure I.E. the one that dominate the outer lines

[slow axle]

I guess you can consider this the maximum you can change, and even then it's slightly too high on some parts
You should aim for lower, but I won't beat you up if you go as high.

I am also hoping that not everyone will change structures as much so there is at least a balance
Still, @desert trail Can you please tune it down a little? I'm not asking for an entire removal either just some things there and there. Such as the former of the two things I mentionned previously on your ship

[slow axle]

This sentence was about any edits of armor. I specifically allowed structural edits on the previous rule because I wanted to see where that would lead
EDIT: I am a lot more strict on the usage of hard armor

[slow axle]

If you have a proof to your argument I will change the credits. I did borrowed it from Saris

[elfin venture]

oh no
i added exactly 2 tiles of triangle with structure, replacing full structure tiles

would i have to change that?

[slow axle]

You can directly paint in Monolith style if it strikes you the urge
I did say you arent forced to, but that mean Monolith painting style is the default

[elfin venture]

to clarify this is the extend of the change

[slow axle]

Again I won't be severe most of the time, just don't abuse it
I think this a) helps the paint b) not noticeable enough I had to search it c) technically not outer outlines
That doesn't mean you can blow holes in the armor at random or fill the thruster hole, like, please

If changing the outlines is partially an illusion created by the paint, such as on admral_grant work, or that it helps the paint in a way that is not noticeable, I am fine with it

[elfin venture]

aight noted

i dont intend to change much

and i'll keep the structure changes as light as possible while looking nice and fringey

[novel coyote]

I'm away until after it ends

[desert trail]

honestly i think so too, its gone from being a antique warship to a creature that stalks its prey and hides in caves

[elfin venture]

Bloody hell, Spacecat's fast

i notice some lights - i dont remember spacecat ever using those before, though chances are they've used them sporadically and i never saw

[desert trail]

yep i probibly could remove those bits, it was more to make it look slightly more spikey, but it is a spot that doesint realy need them

[forest peak]

used lights even on tourney ships 😉
but my latest 1.5 mils dont have lights

[desert trail]

oh shoot wow, i just saw that in submitions lol, it looks pretty good

technialy if i wanted to i could have finished yesterday, but i was board

[elfin venture]

i could have finished today but i was busy playing civ BE

[desert trail]

the name also gives me a bit of in idea, what if we all name our ships Guardian [Word]

[elfin venture]

i have almost got the Best Unit in the Game™️ ready

[desert trail]

trebuchet?

-# ive never played the game so i have no diea

-# *idea

[elfin venture]

no, autosled
also this is civ beyond earth where the most low tech units are astronauts with assault rifles and a guy with a Mars rover and a shotgun

[desert trail]

the mars rover guy sounds like an exilent description of a hillbilly

just flys over a hill, blasts someone then speeds off while trying to drive reload and drink at the same time

[elfin venture]

nah its the explorer unit which sucks ass for combat and never upgrades, the mars rover is for investigating ruins and shit
anyways i feel i must elaborate on autosled supremacy
it is by far the earliest unit in the game with the 'hover' trait which lets it totally ignore terrain and be amphibious, and its also faster than most early game units, if you've played any strategy game at all im sure you can appreciate the potency of
so its the downright Flash compared to everyone else and is above average in combat strength too, plus it isn't even that hard to unlock
only downsides are that they're a bit tricky to make and require 2 separate strategic resources instead of just 1 like other early game units, and they're not the easy-to-find ones

oh and also you need more tech progress than normal but i always like to go science builds so that doesn't matter

tbh its counterparts are pretty fun too like the geliopod an invisible little robot that is basically a shotgun with legs
they're fragile but can hit really hard so you just have them fly outta nowhere to delete someone before leaving

getting back on topic uhh something about Guardian

[desert trail]

🛡️

[toxic ocean]

Wow, you did so well with that structure that I almost thought you had altered the hull, great job.

[desert trail]

its a realy great ilusion, the more interesting thing is if we were aloud to change the hull, i'd probibly do it like that

[toxic ocean]

Yeah.

[ionic jay]

Guardians are looking great so far!

As an interesting history tidbit (and I suppose inspiration), when we were still trying to settle on the Monolith paint scheme/style I made an orange version of the Guardian that I don't think I've shared before: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/900856692479254608/901736736420421662/Monolith_ship_1.1_Hard.ship.png?ex=674eb5c7&is=674d6447&hm=4d9f72b2798fca01dcafdd3cdaf964726ce123ebb9f712a731ef8e5bfb98cb38&

[tired vapor]

can internals be moved? for efficiency and whatnot

[inner basalt]

I had to say I really love this version!

[tired vapor]

#tournament-host-chat message

[slow axle]

#1059084974655033415 message

[slow axle]

It's an honor to have you in the chat!

[tired vapor]

these are not compatible statements

[desert trail]

that is realy interesting, i'tid be cool if someone used that one for the contest

[desert trail]

it was partly due to the age of the ship, we have more things then we used to have, so somethings can be streamlined or upgraded

[slow axle]

You are allowed to change the internals, besides weapons, thrusters, control rooms and reactor, because those are a central part of the paint, though I don't see a point in that.
If changing the internals help your paint, or you feel unable to work on a ship that is not optimized to your standards, feel free to change them

[tired vapor]

so what is the point of saying you can optimize the ship when you are not allowed to optimize the ship lol

[desert trail]

optimiseing the small things

like crew or coridors

armor weaveing

ect

[slow axle]

Sure 🙄
Let's turn the Guardian into an avoider, that is more optimized

[tired vapor]

???

moving weapons/reactors 1-2 tiles does not significantly change paint

and not only that, they would be moved in a way not conducive to paint

[tired vapor]

flak moved!! completely different ship!!!!

o wait and cr and ion

[desert trail]

more or less basicly

the point being that the ship should mostly stay the same shape it used to be

its kinda like an old car, you might repair the bumpers and add new mirrors, give it a fresh coat of paint so it looks less like a rustbucket, tune up the engine so it can run better

make your collectors edition model-T street legal again

[tired vapor]

anyways this is most of the major changes i would make

other than fixing the internals

actually reactor might need to go up 1 tile

would need to do the math

[lament skiff]

why are you even changing the internals it’s just a paint contest

[tired vapor]

better ship

[lament skiff]

Unless i misunderstood the objective is literally to not change the internals

[tired vapor]

the logistics for it kind of suck and i don't want to stare at that for 20 hours

actual hull changes is just swapping airlock for pd and moving thrusters in a bit

would change the tb for deck cannon as well but that is probably too far

actual difference is relatively minor imo

[desert trail]

the major parts of them yep, same with the exterior shape

[desert trail]

related to this, i was trying to think of a word to use, then it hit me that i can literaly just use wolf and that fits everything

basicly mine is the Guardian Wolf

[desert trail]

what i have sofar

[simple valve]

I think changing the hull should be allowed, as people can vote for what they think is the best rework

if they want it to stay true to the original they won't vote for the one that replaces the TBs with DCs

but minor placement and outline changes are still very much faithful

again, up to the voters to decide what they like the most

As an example, I'd love to rework the guardian in my proxima style, especially after the old orange version was shared here, but for that I'd need 2x1 armor wedges

[tired vapor]

i think moving a weapon in a tile is much less signficant that signficant armor and structure rework

[simple valve]

True too

(tho my planned armor changes are literally just editing a few 1x1 wedges)

[tired vapor]

if this becomes the case i might just rebuild from the ground up lol

some things like the ions are just not really possible logistically

[slow axle]

Once again you can change the hull if it help your paint

But don't abuse it and keep it minimal that's all I ask

Asides, a good alternative that you might see on admral_grant's submission is the usage of a dark/black layer to give the illusion of using less armor. Or using lights for a faint bit of color that could extend way past the armor outlines

I can hand over two of my ships to illustrate what I mean (though the effect is minimal on both it exist)

Or directly referencing admral_grant's submission

[quasi thistle]

This is... Epic and menacing, love it!

(can I have the color scheme?)

[desert trail]

sure, its literaly just black, red, light grey and grey

[toxic ocean]

That's such an awesome piece of built-in history, I love it! You're rarely active but every one of your appearances is a blast.

[spring haven]

The massive cockpit is funny.

[desert trail]

i do realy like the idea for this that its some group of bounty hunters named the Guardians, becase they all have a Guardian,

then they have various callsighs for each ship

basically we currently have the Valor and the Wolf

not quite sure what the Valor's method of attack is, but i do know that the Wolf's preferred method is ambushing

[desert trail]

nooo... bring the picture back, i saw it for like a split second

[forest peak]

the bar is set with the first 3 submissions ...

Valor / Wolf / Tower

[forest peak]

had to put the TB on for some glitter

[desert trail]

i have no idea why those are on

[tired vapor]

adenosine triphosphate?????

[small breach]

nop

[lament skiff]

adenosine triphosphate ship

Im so confused what the submission has to to with guardian

[slow axle]

@small breach I think I will include a statement in the rules that stipulate the need to share both the ship file & the name of the original ship when it comes to submissions below 300k

In the main time, could you share these informations with me? I can hardly tell if that ship even exist in Monolith

EDIT: submission approved

[mortal cave]

That's the Macerator

Just by the way

[slow axle]

Thank you

[slow axle]

I included an alternative "event" for those who did not wanted to paint the Guardian or wanted to go further, in the form of painting any Monolith ship below 300k. And I even encouraged those who were done with repainting Guardian to look in the lower price bracket to repaint one of them.

I wasn't expecting nearly as many submissions and dedication on the Guardian due to the tight schedule of the holyday season '•~•

[mortal cave]

I think it's really cool how many people are participating in this contest as well

[desert trail]

it is prity cool seeing how others paint the same ship

actualy....

[slow axle]

Love the use of 3x1 wedges by the way

[desert trail]

hey saris, you should join the contest, you could repaint it in an updated monlith scheme

[mortal cave]

I actually already like the Guardian as one of my top ten ships in-game, I don't think I could do as good a job

[lament skiff]

Would it be considered bad manners if i did it monolith style

[mortal cave]

I wouldn't say so, given that there's different approaches and styles even to a specific established theme

Or at least, I personally think it would be cool if someone re-painted one of my ships in the same factional theme but in a different way

[slow axle]

To me, absolutely not. You are fully allowed (and perhaps even encouraged because nobody submited such paint yet) to paint Gardian in it's very original style

It would certainly be easier if it wasn't as much of a wonderful paint already, but I'm sure you can pull it off!

[slow axle]

@small breach Feel free to edit/resubmit your submission

[tired vapor]

sihp

i sleep

[elfin venture]

ooh

[small breach]

done

[toxic ocean]

Wait so you're allowed to paint not just Guardian? Nice. .

[desert trail]

-# i kinda wish it was just Guardian...

[median patio]

Imma paint the guardian in fringe

Sounds like a good idea

[elfin venture]

may the best fringe guardian win

[desert trail]

woo, more guardians, i think that makes it 5 now?

[lament skiff]

i wont participate but i will watch your showdown with great interest

[small breach]

i participated and will watch your showdown with great interest

[elfin venture]

nice to see that every ship so far has Guardian in its name

[small breach]

#1059085469708734515 message @hazy edge
psure only monolith ships are allowed for the 300k or less submission

[hazy edge]

pain

[desert trail]

nice so we have Valor, Wolf, Tower and Pequod

[desert trail]

and a new one Rodrigonian

[strange mango]

im working on one too

[slow axle]

That is exactly what I was about to say

[slow axle]

Thank you for doing my job

[desert trail]

nice, i think that means we might end up with 8 or 9 of them

[tired vapor]

was trying to make a pill shape and made this instead :(

[desert trail]

[lament skiff]

The first real phallus in cosmoteer

[tired vapor]

it feels too patchworkey and the style keeps changing i feel :( not good w/ ships this tiny

[desert trail]

join the Guardian cult

[tired vapor]

need name for the ship

[strange mango]

ive always been bad with naming my creations too

[tired vapor]

wikipedia -> random article gave me 1 good name over ~10 min but i would need to recolor to fit it better so nah

[desert trail]

useing the combo of monolith nameing and what looks like a heart in the center of it you could name it bruiser

heartbreaker, cardiac arrester, mercykiller

[tired vapor]

the <3 shape was accident

[desert trail]

it still looks cool

[hazy edge]

sandpiper

[desert trail]

Jewjuice went absolutely crazy with his Guardian, honistly should probibly replace the old one with it

[elfin venture]

It's definitely a competitor to the old Guardian

I find it too messy and unstructured

tho

[forest peak]

tbh not rly interested in the sub 300K part of the contest, feels like two differnt contests.
imho it is all about painting the guardian

[elfin venture]

the sub 300k part is mostly just a fun little extra and also for people that don't have the time or ability to paint a 1.5mil ship during christmas season

[forest peak]

"Guardian" Overveiw

[inner basalt]

I'm repainting this ship in the style of monolith too lmao

[elfin venture]

the first four are all so good they scare me

[forest peak]

i was about to rate the first 6 entries but: subjectivity

[small breach]

i could've made mine better but unfortunately rules

[forest peak]

you bent the rules with some armor tiles anyway 😉

[small breach]

yeah but if bending the rules a bit is adding armor tiles then adding as many railguns as i can is shooting them with an anti tank missile

[inner basalt]

Maybe I should paint it in cabal style, but that may be changed too much

[slow axle]

I mean, I don't see why you couldn't.
But are you able to play with illusions, using lights, paint and structures in such ways that it keep the hull changes to a minimum?

Sounds like a fun challenge to me!

[slow axle]

I wanted to point out two very minor things:

• I use a glamor shot for the votes and the shipfile for the save file & for verification purpose. Therefore glamor shots are allowed and recommended.

If you don't put any glamor shots your submissions it's fine, as I'll create one for you. But if you don't trust me, feel free to add one.
(either by copying the image link and adding it to your existing submission or by resubmitting)

• I also find it funny that while everyone name their Guardians paint differently, nobody including myself (and asides from Admiral_grant), remembers to put their name in the "author" section
  It's absolutely fine for the contest by the way, you only need to mention the author in submissions

[desert trail]

me puting my name in the author thing is an thing nailed into me from the one time i nearly got disqualified from one of these becase i didint know Door was an actual person and had left his name in the spot becase i though it was the defalt name

[lament skiff]

lmaooo

[desert trail]

it was a looong time ago...

[toxic ocean]

You know, considering how every Guardian submission has Guardian in its name...

I have a fun idea.

My initial was ''Guardian Angel,'' but that would require heavy structure modifications.

I think I could do my transistor/electricity/tesla/circuitboard themed thingyy :>

[desert trail]

that'id be cool

[simple valve]

@slow axle would the editing of the armor in the middle (the orange part) be ok?

[slow axle]

Yes you can! It's just better if you can minimize hull changes, in my opinion

Can you give me the file though? I think you can reduce changes/downright change nothing if you lower your paint one tile (which shouldn't be that big of a deal considering you got so few stripes to worry about)

[simple valve]

hmm yeah I think if I do something with the quarters there I could move it further down

[toxic ocean]

I started on my surge protector.

[desert trail]

epic

i think that brings the Guardians up to 11

[small breach]

guardian tournament boutta become the biggest unoffical one in a long time

tbh i don't even know why i participated, i just did what comes natural and that was making guardian tower

[desert trail]

actualy, do we have anyone doing it in the imperium style?
i know we have 2 monoliths, a fringe and i think a cabal

[small breach]

i'd say my style is close to imper but i think that's it, no one really made or wants to make an imper one

[desert trail]

i do think you might be right,

i actualy cant realy go for any of the styles, mostly due to useing bits of all of them at the same time

[toxic ocean]

I don't know, it's a fun and very low effort leasure project.

Guardian is not a flexible ship though, it's very blocky.

Yeah huge surprise there monolith ship blocky

[slow axle]

What ship would you call flexible I am intrested

[desert trail]

-# cantaloupe

[slow axle]

Id say having Guardian in so many different and unique paint styles so far is already impressive

[small breach]

i think it's flexible because it's blocky

[desert trail]

i mean i guess me and jewjuce manged to make ours roundish

[toxic ocean]

I'd say any ship with a large enough frontal armour head, but also some unique elements to it. Something like the Fringe master of none/Kingslayer could be good example, but they're too big I guess.

I suppose Guardian is still decent and semi-abides to the former

[forest peak]

i like your design work usually - but here the front structure is too much drama 😉

[slow axle]

Wouldn't you have liked to see The Rotten Core be the contest subject?

[toxic ocean]

I don't know what you mean by drama, unless you mean the literal philological definition of "dialogue"

[toxic ocean]

Eh, it's way too complex and stupid a thing to have genuinely been considered worth it to paint, you should have been glad to have gotten 2 entries LMAO

[forest peak]

i mean it is "too much"

[toxic ocean]

Maybe the little lower hanging things are much, but you best bet I am keeping the tesla coils.

[elfin venture]

i think we have two fringes, mine and activatewindows
honestly i might do two ships - one fringe, one in personal style like faraday cage - and see which one turns out better

and it also depends on how good activate's sub is

[flint abyss]

ok i just missed some contests (which is fine) but why is someone making the best monolith paint i have seen and not be built-in ?

[elfin venture]

well its for the contest

[desert trail]

yep

[small breach]

we have 3 guardian repaints now

guardian repaint
guardian repaint1
guardian repaint 2024

[grizzled sequoia]

We need guardian repaint 2025

[small breach]

timing would be hard

in my time zone i'd have like 23 hours

[toxic ocean]

It's literally like those Geometry Dash official level remakes

''Clubstep 2024''

[strange mango]

at this point, i have a folder with 50 unique repaints of guardian that i made during the course of this event, no really

[lament skiff]

you painted 50 ships in a week?

[strange mango]

i did

technically, they are all relatively simple

[lament skiff]

if you’re spending 1-2 hrs per paint which i would say is right for a ship this size that’s crazy

well, if you’re a fast painter

I would probably spend like 5-10 hrs on it

[hazy edge]

what having too much free time does to a bro

[strange mango]

yea i have more free time than i know what to do with sometimes

[desert trail]

i thought i had too much free time... evidently not

[toxic ocean]

Guardian repaint contest submissions
10% other people
90% B L A K E

[strange mango]

well i wont submit 50 ships, im just trying to make one really good submission and it took a few attempts

[toxic ocean]

I know, I was joking, duh.

[strange mango]

as am i

[toxic ocean]

Anyways, I'd love to see what you are up to.

When you finish of course.

[strange mango]

if i had to guess ill have a finished submission before the end of next week