design contest chat

[toxic ocean]

Right column

[elfin venture]

no just any of the 4

if u had to pick only one ship from the right two, which one, then?

[toxic ocean]

Well, I'd say smol police guy and the 8TB broadside**R**.

[elfin venture]

ok i guess that's just the police ship now lmao

[toxic ocean]

Yes it is.

Copman

[elfin venture]

aight nice thanks

[toxic ocean]

British Bobby

[elfin venture]

why do my DC ships keep receiving nicknames lol

[toxic ocean]

We have the
Wombo Combo Crown
British Bobby
Pinecone's Wet Dream
Mustard of Noone

[toxic ocean]

And you can't say Nickname without...

I'll leave you to figure that one out.

[elfin venture]

specifically i meant that "Pinecone's Wet Dream" already had a nickname: the Tractor Beam Beam

in fact that nickname came before the actual name since i made the ship entirely to do a pun

[flint abyss]

2 and 3 (up right, and down left)

[elfin venture]

a clear consensus, then

[small breach]

i mean layer one is just masking but you get the inverse of some decals

you don't get a layer so you can't do fades beneath it and the top two will most likely be used just like accents in sculpting or every layer in masking

[toxic ocean]

Lol. I like tractor beam [x2]

Appreciate wombo combo crown though I came up with that on the spot.

[flint abyss]

@open stag i hope the architects won't penalize you for it's resemblance to monolith, cause it's fire

[small breach]

iron vanguard really just took kingslayer

[desert trail]

i want to use these, but they all have issues.
the first kinda sucks becase of how low the mine targeting range is, but i do like it the most.
the second one is good, but i think it looks too imperium? in shape that is? also it doesint have mines.
therd one is meh.

might end up just useing a premaide ship that i have

like ether this one

or this one

and i think i'm leaning towards the first one.....

[small breach]

i think your second ship is fine

doesn't look imper enough to me

but anyway i'd say still use the first one, even if it doesn't work rn mine range will be buffed eventually so that's something

[sonic breach]

Just looking at these ships and realising i have no chance lol

They just look so dang good

[desert trail]

what do your ships look like anyways? im betting you have at least 1 that probibly could win

20,000th mesage in this chat lol

defintly a milestone

[small breach]

yeah but you don't have to compete

[lament skiff]

^

[small breach]

come on people this dc's entire theme is you no longer have to compete, just make a good ship that people would vote for

[desert trail]

yep

[sonic breach]

This is my best one i think

just triangles

[desert trail]

looks good,

the glowing parts at the front look realy nice, perhaps if you contiued that theme with the rest of the body it would look even better? i dont know how to give paint advice lol

basicly the front is good

[flint abyss]

i never use lights, just because i think with armor and bricks. i can't have decorative corridors. i replace 1x1 armor with FE or airlocks only because i have to

[tired vapor]

i use lights - what else am i optimizing all this cost off for

[flint abyss]

i'm that bad in my brain

lol

[inner basalt]

Love it

[lament skiff]

pretty interesting, would need to see it in actual space cause the lights but think it looks good

[elfin venture]

@flint abyss i like the lore for your ship just being "it hurts everyone's ears"

[flint abyss]

are concussions a joke to you ?

[elfin venture]

no

the idea of the ship's sole distinguishing trait being that it gives people concussions is funny though

[lament skiff]

It’s like living in a concert hall

[elfin venture]

so we have design contest ship that hurts the eyes from concrete

design contest ship that hurts the ears from xderp

[lament skiff]

now we just need a ship that smells bad

[flint abyss]

i have nothing to write about dark flower because it has nothing really special. it's so normal

[elfin venture]

and tastes bad

[flint abyss]

attack on all senses XD

[small breach]

i got you covered on that one

[toxic ocean]

Lemon ship

[small breach]

smells bad and tastes bad (only to regular ships, railfans like the smell and the taste of concrete)

[elfin venture]

@novel coyote nice submissions! Reshaper looks just as great as when it won SoTD, and Ironsight is toeing the Fringe line but is also a seriously creative use of the full stop decal

[toxic ocean]

Ironside is amazing! I love how it really does look like shiny metal plates.

---

I hope you're ready to see my Nukepunk ships by the way :>

[elfin venture]

your wHAT

[slow axle]

Those are basically the ideas I have

It's very rough and I'd like suggestions

[desert trail]

it kinda reminds me of a fishing lure, and now that i think about it, i dont think we have any ships that look like those

[lament skiff]

I tried to build a ship that was pretty close to the left one but i couldn’t make it look good

[slow axle]

The "flat" worm like body doesn't help

Being spiked can achieve great things, but it stray further from the original inspiration.

[desert trail]

could make it an orbiter, put cannons / deck cannons on the spyky side, and missiles on the other

[slow axle]

I already know what I will do out of it, I want suggestion to make the shape more appealing though
Or confirmation that it is already appealing by good standards

[toxic ocean]

Nukepunk :>

A sub-style I made up, you'll have to wait and see when I finish the first boi.

[slow axle]

"What is that thing?"
"I made it up!"

[toxic ocean]

Exactly!

Nobody else has built a cosmoteer ship with something similar so what was I supposed to say?

[ashen widget]

This style?

[toxic ocean]

Not quite, but it's based off of the ideas I came up with when painting it, and a similar scheme.

Gonna have a lot of nuke symbolicism of course.

[mortal cave]

Wait a second that's the Aurora Starsector

[lament skiff]

tbh i haven’t played enough starsector to memorize the individual ships but i was like “that’s gotta be a starsector ship”

[spring haven]

Remade my 2mil submission.

[slim fog]

Yes, ship started out trying to adapt aurora in cosmoteer, then design contest started and I repurposed it for the contest. Also just finished a starsector run with an aurora fleet so I had it on my mind

[lament skiff]

Not sure if the starsector reference would be problematic but regardless i am a fan of the ship

[slow axle]

Oooooo Jewjuice submission time!
As always unique paint

[flint abyss]

lol

[simple valve]

games reference each other a ton, imo it's not a problem at all

esp since cosmoteers will probably be pretty rare

[flint abyss]

my first ship in modern is a small brawler from starsector. really effective design

[toxic ocean]

This thing?

Yeah they are pretty similar.

Juice's ships are always extremey unique and well shaded.

[toxic ocean]

Progress on my submissions is going badly so I'm going to show you guys ultra rough concept art at least.

[slow axle]

Looks like someone strapped a nuclear fission reactor facility onto a big boulder and dispatch it in space

Intresting concept!!

[toxic ocean]

Not too far off, but I feel like the idea I have is even more intriguing.

My 3rd submission is a huge building looking thing that I am working on right now.

No I'm not obsessed with buildings why you ask

[small breach]

ye

exactly what i thought when i first saw it too

[spring haven]

Paint progress.

[toxic ocean]

I'd say it looks too competitive but it's definitely solid.

[tired vapor]

tf does "look competitive" mean

[toxic ocean]

I'll leave you to figure that out.

[elfin venture]

oh great now its a speech bubble gif

[mortal cave]

I actually kind of like this because it points out that Nick's statement of it being 'too competitive' is functionally meaningless

[tired vapor]

this is like if i just said "logistic, denied" on every role application on excelsior

[elfin venture]

denied for having logistics

logistics are banned you should just teleport power into things

[tired vapor]

true

[toxic ocean]

You people...

"Point out your thoughts on a ship's visual? L+ratio+useless+banned"

Just because a ship gives me the vibe of "competitive-looking" doesn't mean I dislike it or think it's a pvp ship jeez

[toxic ocean]

"Your ship visually reminds me of a specific type of ships "

YOUR POINT IS FUNCTIONALLY MEANINGLESS

[elfin venture]

yoo i just noticed that part of Toothless' ship is damaged at the front that's cool

[toxic ocean]

Thanks Saris, very useful.

[elfin venture]

its really minor but i like it as flavour

[elfin venture]

one of those things that makes it feel like another Cosmoteer instead of another enemy, if you get what i mean

[tired vapor]

"looks competitive" is even more subjective than visual beauty

wdym "type of ships"

i've won pvp with almost all my built ins

[tired vapor]

"competitive" is not a visual

what about a ship makes it look competitive

it is like having your first critique for a painting being "i think the paint looks expensive"

[toxic ocean]

Welp, I suppose it's just that antagonising me is you people's favourite pastime.

[tired vapor]

???? what makes a ship look "competitive"

[small breach]

idk that ship just looks plain to me

[simple valve]

I do think it prioritizes part placement before aesthetics, that creates a competitive look

[tired vapor]

you guys are placing parts in bad places for aesthetics??

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wtf-oh-hell-nah-gif-4183712492046775434

[desert trail]

i mean..... the ships that i am makeing use mines, so yes i supose

wait, i think i wread that wrong

[simple valve]

I'm not always placing them in the most effective places, yes

[desert trail]

my brain has finaly congregated the info on how to cabal sculpt,

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-beuh-bruh-meme-sooshi-mango-jit-triflin-gif-24127888

[tired vapor]

wait i just realized i can make my ship mostly dysfunctional as long as it looks good

i just have to fix it for the architects if they like it

[tribal heath]

If.

[bronze citrus]

not a huge fan of the layout here. i think you should work on the armor shaping and silouhette. the front and back sections are entirely visually disconnected which im not a fan of and the armor shaping is entirely utilitarian, not even having the very base line of aesthetic armor shaping. ultimately this results in a ship that has a very jarring but plain silhouette, and this isnt really covered up by the paintstyle either

[tired vapor]

true

but if they don't like it, not much point in having it well optimized anyways

[bronze citrus]

its not like you have to have the parts in bad places

just actually arranged aesthetically nicely

[tired vapor]

how do people even do aesthetic armor

i think brick armor looks fine and wierd spikey armor looks like it was meant to look pretty but just makes the ship look weak

[ashen widget]

I think simple notches that just follow the shadows help a lot.

[tired vapor]

armor over vitals \👍

[bronze citrus]

aesthetic armor? i just go a brick, paint it, and then remove the negative space that i painted in afterwards

its hard to wrap ur head around how to accomodate future paint perfectly with the right armor shape but its a lot easier to just match the shape of the armor with the paint

[tired vapor]

random armor \👎

@mortal cave ?

it was not specified in the rules so i assume no, but would like to double check

[mortal cave]

Walt can do whatever he wants, if he likes a ship or few we'll add them. But he's a busy man so I don't intend to actively draw his attention

[small breach]

sounds like i need to pay a bit more in bribes

[ashen widget]

I assume illegal crew colors are, well, illegal?

[mortal cave]

Yes, also report that in bugs

[tired vapor]

it's a known bug

been known since classic

[tired vapor]

\👍

[tribal heath]

For your own gods, of course.

[small breach]

but also the bribery kinda makes me wonder

what if i bribed like 50 rando cosmoteer players to only vote for me

would that be cheating? i sure hope so, would i get a refund i also sure hope so

not like i have the money required anyways

[tired vapor]

i've got ~40ish ppl i can get to join and vote if that's allowed

won't tell them to vote me ofc

and they might not join in the first place

the kaine incident pt 2: air edition coming soon

[vernal lance]

it's Kaine not kine

don't get them mixed up now, two completely different people

[tired vapor]

oops

[hollow python]

What is torn?

[tired vapor]

a game

my army of hobos to take over cosmoteer design contests with

[toxic ocean]

Definitely very fair and not rigged, this man plays fair.

[tired vapor]

all of them only know me as glorious leader cfcfcfcfcf lol

[tired vapor]

@mortal cave would this be fine?

[bronze citrus]

do they know who ur discord acc is lol

you should go undercover

[tired vapor]

not too hard to connect the dots

and my nickname is forcibly set to cfcfcfcfcf [2814219] (that's my id) in every official torn server

[bronze citrus]

lol

well id say it might be a bit biased but its not like votes matter that much in this dc

i would be a bit more hesitant if it was a traditional dc though

[mortal cave]

The issue is I can't legitimately stop you outside of saying "dwont duw it pwease," so I'm inclined to agree so long as its clear that they vote for the highest quality, not just you.

That being said I'll be putting a poll in announcements that will be the real voting section after the 24th

[elfin venture]

@inner basalt that ship you submitted on behalf of someone else, do you know if it had any inspirations? because i noticed the paint style and scheme is literally identical to these ships of mine
I don't have a single problem with it, in fact i think its quite nice and probably looks a bit better, just curious

[inner basalt]

His idea came from the circuit board

[toxic ocean]

That's too close to be a coincidence.

[inner basalt]

=q=Would you like me to tell the author about it?

[elfin venture]

looks like it
was the scheme taken from these? i doubt they ended up with the same scheme and style (the white plates with darkened outlines is something ive never seen anywhere else) coincidentally
even the name is a lil similar

[toxic ocean]

Well if Air wins we'll know what's going on so at least there's that.

[elfin venture]

ye sure
i don't have any problem with their interpretation
in fact you can tell them i like it more than the ships i did which were basically worse looking imperium, not as original as Firewall Breach

[inner basalt]

I honestly don't know.But I'm talking to the author right now

[toxic ocean]

Also, I know there's no limit to how much proxies you can submit but isn't it a little concerning that half the submission as they stand right now are proxy submissions?

I am JUST CURIOUS, No need to antagonise me again.

[elfin venture]

? there are way more in-person submissions than proxy submissions

[elfin venture]

maybe ask them about the ships? if they saw hadron collider on the workshop

[inner basalt]

OK

[toxic ocean]

Oh nevermind some of those are from Green too.

[inner basalt]

OK

[inner basalt]

Ummm what's you mean

[inner basalt]

He said he didn't really watch workshop or discord, so he didn't see your ship

[elfin venture]

hm

where did he get the colour scheme from?

[inner basalt]

But he think your ships is great now

[inner basalt]

Ummm let me ask him

[elfin venture]

tell him i say thanks

[inner basalt]

OK

[green mist]

oh crap I need to do stuff for this

[mortal cave]

Totally should

[green mist]

I'll have about a week to paint my tiny ship once I get home

[vagrant fern]

@elfin venture Green's vpn is down,so I help her to convey message

[elfin venture]

Oh

ok

[vagrant fern]

@elfin venture Knight says his color scheme comes from here

[elfin venture]

Interesting

Did Knight have a scheme previously saved they used, or did they make it themselves when making Firewall Breach?

[inner basalt]

OK I'm back

[elfin venture]

Nice

[inner basalt]

Make it themselves when making Firewall Breach

[elfin venture]

hm...

[inner basalt]

I've only ever seen him on a ship with this style, and he likes to try different styles

[inner basalt]

His works for CCC design contest=w=

[elfin venture]

damn those look nice

is the dragon one a repaint of yours?

[inner basalt]

He did refer to my design, but he made it himself

[elfin venture]

ah

[inner basalt]

Wait, I'm wrong. He replied that he had been using this paint scheme just now

[elfin venture]

wait where's the 4th colour

[inner basalt]

I don't know=n=

[mortal cave]

That guy makes some very nice ships

[toxic ocean]

I like this style, it's rare to see a ship with no fades and only 3 colour channels be remotely decent let alone good looking.

[toxic ocean]

First ship is superb, that colouration gradient is just 🤩

Some of the best used lights.

[inner basalt]

I relayeds the message to the author

He said thank you

OwO

[toxic ocean]

:>

[toxic ocean]

If only some of you china folks weren't limited by Discord's availability.

Wait, then how come some of the Chinese people have access to it, is it VPN shinanegans?

[inner basalt]

Yeah use vpn to use discord

[flint abyss]

i may repaint dark flower. i feel like my void style is a bit flat

[tired vapor]

i know the discord ids of all of them so i can just see how many of them only voted for me (it will be none of them because air is a completely different person in torn)

[toxic ocean]

Nice.

Hey hey, I always wanted to ask, how is design contests' stance on ethnic or nationalistic iconography? Things like flags, coat of arms, specific symbols and so on, even if in a copyright-safe and purely historic sense.

@mortal cave

Are they allowed or strictly not.

[tired vapor]

@toxic ocean

[toxic ocean]

Oh alright, then we'll have to await Walt's response.

No hammer and sickle on my ship then

[mortal cave]

Could, but won't. Just don't add it

[toxic ocean]

Not like I would've anyways.

[flint abyss]

then, why are you asking ?
pure curiosity ?

[lament skiff]

Think nick meant he wont specifically do hammer and sickle, but nick often makes ships with irl iconography so he probably had something in mind

[flint abyss]

oh

that's why i was asking.

[mortal cave]

I think this next one has good chances I dunno guys kinda a strange feeling

[lament skiff]

lol

[vernal lance]

oh dear, there goes my chances

[late zenith]

Good luck to the rest of us I guess

[tribal heath]

Finally, the worthy opponent

[bronze citrus]

sir a meekoz submission has hit the second dc

[elfin venture]

panic stations

oh god it incorporates the reactors as green eyes oh no its too good

[small breach]

#1059085469708734515 message yeah we're cooked

SHIT THEY'RE TYPING

THERE IS MORE

[tribal heath]

Meekoz vs meekoz, haha

[vernal lance]

definitely had no intent on participating anyway

nope

[lament skiff]

you simply must create a ship of equivalent interest

[tribal heath]

"Easy to say"

[mortal cave]

Again, your chances of getting in-game is irrelevant to other submissions

Or you guys are way more invested in the popularity contest than I expected

[tribal heath]

It seems to be the mindset of previous DCs

[mortal cave]

☝️🤓 Strictly speaking, this is a ship drive, not a DC

I agree with you however

[slow axle]

I don't care at all about getting the ships in-game

I want the role.

And I know I'm speaking for a lot of people here;

[tribal heath]

Then they meet the wall named Meekoz

[slow axle]

I'll be happy with second place on the public votes though
And who know, what wall is unbreakable? Maybe concrete will win. According to upvotes in the submission channel they does

[tribal heath]

They does because more time has passed since their post was published.

[simple valve]

The only way to win against Meekoz is for them to become an architect I think

[tribal heath]

If he wanted to, it wouldn't be too hard for him to do so I guess

[simple valve]

Not sure if he makes faction ships tho

But yeah he could totally become one

[tribal heath]

Or take 1st place in design contests 10 times in a row 😌

[simple valve]

I just got an insane idea for this

Even more insane that false relay

Probably a side submission, not the main one, but it's still worth a shot

[tribal heath]

No, an architect's job is different from design contests, built-ins are much easier than some art engineering. The only way to beat a Master of Design is the design contests.

[elfin venture]

Oh wow this is going to be fun

[slow axle]

Oh yeah we forgot Pavlo did beated Meekoz last time

[elfin venture]

to beat meekoz just be insane apparently

it worked last time

and pavlo's sticking with what works

[simple valve]

Btw I'm completely fine with the ship being disqualified, yet I'm still giving it a shot, that's how insane it is

[elfin venture]

oh wow

this'll be interesting

[small breach]

i think i'm just going to give up on my other ideas and just submit sadekivi

[simple valve]

it is done

the nukes are the only thing making it win against some same tier ships

[elfin venture]

OH MY GOD

[elfin venture]

suggestion: use 1x2s for the shape of the V, and move the nuke up slightly
at first i read the ship as Pauloyous

[small breach]

holy shit

yep master of design again

[simple valve]

I thought about it but I wanted to stay true to the original only using 1x1s

Also the name is right under it, and even then it doesn't really matter since my nickname comes from my name Pavel, which is Paul, so the v and u are basically interchangeable (tho I prefer the v)

[elfin venture]

Pauvloydus

[simple valve]

That sounds french, I don't like that

[elfin venture]

Pavuloydus?

[simple valve]

Just no

[elfin venture]

Pavuloyous

[simple valve]

It's hard trying to combine a word and enough firepower

[elfin venture]

You don't say

[small breach]

now i need to make a "firepower" ship and fill it with nukes

[toxic ocean]

Oh shit, Meekoz uploaded, it's time I really kick myself into high gear.

like with cars

[vernal lance]

first place is the only thing that matters

the chance of getting first place is thrown into a black hole with meekoz simply existing

[toxic ocean]

I will try my best to subvert your expectations 🫡

[tribal heath]

I'm: exist

[flint abyss]

idk, i don't generally vote for fantasy ships

[vernal lance]

immtrm I accidentally beat you

you're beatable

[flint abyss]

i spent too long on the internet, i read something else for a split second

[toxic ocean]

Can architects even participate lol?

[tribal heath]

Not now

[toxic ocean]

It seems kinda trivial.

[tribal heath]

Why not lmao?

[tribal heath]

I wish you could do it more times 😌

And, maybe, not accidentally?

[vernal lance]

too much of an issue of skill for that

can't exactly bring myself to play ye game anyway

I mean you're an architect, and I'm just some lowly "master of design" that thinks they're better than everyone else

[toxic ocean]

I mean, they can get in their ships and be payed, why do they need to.

[toxic ocean]

And maybe not by ripping off a superior creator?

[slow axle]

They can't buy master of design back

[tired vapor]

why would arcchitect need dc

they can just put it in directly

[toxic ocean]

I don't know, for the fun of it.

[desert trail]

i love how the chat whent into a mild panic when meekoz posted a ship

also nick, you have 9 days

[spring haven]

Thanks for the reminder, I actually thought the deadline was the 21st. Might be able to make another small ship by the 24th.

[flint abyss]

just reposting with more details

[toxic ocean]

You know who also has 9 days? you

https://tenor.com/view/reload-shotgun-dale-gribble-rusty-shackleford-king-of-the-hill-gif-15641945943961425415

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

i submited all my ships lol

[tired vapor]

i still need to make agrihand but not shit :(

[small breach]

i'll finish this thing and then post it and sadekivi

and also add in a railfan

idk which one to use though

uhh poll thingy, react 1-8 to vote for each fan (top to bottom, left to right)

[tribal heath]

Only in styles of built-ins, no more. And yeah participating is the fun.

[tribal heath]

Wdym

[tired vapor]

you won't be allowed to make your own independents?

[simple valve]

yeah I assumed majority of them would be architect made

[tribal heath]

Of course we (architects) could do, but it's better for design contests to fill that niche because this is the best theme for vast diversity of ships by community.

And after all, competition is fun for me.

[tired vapor]

\👍

[bronze citrus]

5 is the best visually imo and probably pretty interesting combat wise, but the back mines probably have to go in favor of more emp or smth

[small breach]

tis probably my most unique ship ever so makes sense

although i'm keeping the mines, they're too funny to remove

but also i'm worried about it being a pushover combat wise becasue it has a hole directly to its cr

[toxic ocean]

I meant that Corpo won against you by ''ripping off'' a superior creator, Door.

[toxic ocean]

will you credit me for le modul

[small breach]

i will

thank you for the de modul

[tired vapor]

????

hasn't door made like

[small breach]

i would like to let you know i gutted all the roles and assignments and fucked them up

[tired vapor]

6 ships total

[small breach]

no? i think door has made alot of imperium ships

[toxic ocean]

''????''
Door has made A LOT of ships.

Have you actually like... Looked in the built in ships folder?

[tired vapor]

maybe i am misremembering

[mortal cave]

Also I'd say that all of the architects have varying strengths and weaknesses, and saying someone won because they ripped off the best one is... strange

[tribal heath]

Ah lol. Corpo moment.

[tired vapor]

how did they rip someone else off

they did a collab and put their own name first?

[small breach]

looked at the style and copied it

hmmmmmmm

i had these two ships on the side to copy from but i just never ended up doing that

was too lazy to zoom out a bit and study stuff

[tired vapor]

does everyone need to come up w/ a unique style now lol

the redshirt, the low priority operator, the high priority operator, and the shield pretasked with eb that also operates eb, er and mrt

(there is a single crew being pretasked)

[small breach]

idk but i do (it's just really close to immtrm's masking)

[tired vapor]

i lied it is no longer just a high priority operator

[open stag]

@mortal cave, how slow would a ship have to be to no longer be deemed combat viable?

[mortal cave]

Sub-60 or something

[open stag]

Okie dokie

[lament skiff]

i can make ships that go below 90?!!

[hollow python]

@mortal cave Just curious, what happens when someone who already has the "Master Of Design" role wins 1st place?

[mortal cave]

They get nothing

[tired vapor]

maybe walt could remove it and add it back

[mortal cave]

What if I told you he did that and then you believed me

[tired vapor]

then i wouldbelieve you? wdym

[mortal cave]

The point I'm trying to get across is that its a meaningless gesture, with no proof of it having had happened, so just believe it happened and it may as well have.

[tired vapor]

true

[lament skiff]

The destination may be the same, but there is meaning in the journey

[spring haven]

More paint progress. Chainguns have gotten the basic outlines of where I'll put plates,the mrts have gotten the plate shaping done(although I need to tweak it) and the front DCs and flak are still in the trying to figure out where I'll put plates stage.

[tired vapor]

interesting ship

*shape

it reminds me of a bone but i can't think of which one

[median patio]

Reverse thrust on meekoz ship

[tired vapor]

recoil is reverse \👍

[late zenith]

3/3 done - This one was a really weird merger of two different ships initially and then turned into its current form later on

[tired vapor]

interesting nuke design

i like the pattern they make when they come out

[late zenith]

they can be straighter but this is my first shot, not the glory one for when I submit

[median patio]

Can't wait to get blasted after sitting at a station

[small breach]

i like its shape and stuff but what i don't like is how plain the paint feels like, i think i'll wait until you incorporate more of the yellow to comment on that though

[small breach]

gib feedback before i submit

[tired vapor]

the blue lines feel too long i think

at least compared to the relative shortnes of the magenta

[small breach]

idk what to change with that so imma keep it but i'll switch out some of the blue to the pinkish red

[past bramble]

I like where this is going

[small breach]

picture

[past bramble]

I think those being so jagged stand out too much

[small breach]

yeah about those, idk what to put in there

i could smooth them out

[past bramble]

I think bottom one you can keep it

But the top one 100% need to be smoothed

[small breach]

some changes

gonna submit now

[toxic ocean]

#1059085469708734515 message IDK why but I'm obsessed with this description it's so funny.

[elfin venture]

@thick glacier nice ship
btw, i checked the original paintscheme you used, turns out it's not the same as the Hadron Collider scheme I used. That was a really weird coincidence

[thick glacier]

Hello Rednax910, it's nice to chat with you. My friend Green helped me submit my work. I have a VPN now, so I can log in to DISCORD.
The original model of this paint job was designed by me on January 9, 2024, and I designed a full set of PVP warships. Later, I went to study other paint jobs and put it aside.
I learned that there was a competition recently, and I was temporarily out of inspiration, so I found it again and re-set it by adding the style of the circuit board. The final result is OK.
Green told me that my paint job might be similar to yours. This is a wonderful misunderstanding, which means that we have a similar aesthetic in color. I also appreciate your appreciation of my warship.
I hope we can become friends and communicate with each other.
(Out of respect for you, I updated my warship, and her circuit board color is darker)

@inner basalt Hello, Princess, I got the VPN.

[inner basalt]

=w= good

[tired vapor]

nice \👍

[elfin venture]

very nice
I didn't use that paintscheme that much, anyways

[tired vapor]

despair

[small breach]

what the fuck

-antithesis at somepoint

[tired vapor]

changes to crew roles will impede function

so i cannot shorten the names or i will not know exactly what they do

[mortal cave]

At least you didn't forget airlocks, fire extinguishers or hyperdrives after finishing the paint and are forced to start rearranging things

[tired vapor]

(i did that already)

i didn't finish the paint though

but i had to redo all the crew

[small breach]

good thing i paint everything in a way that leaves out convenient circles for hyperdr- GODDAMIT I FORGOT SENSORS AGAIN

welp i'm gonna rely on it being 75k less than 1mil so it doesn't need sensor

[hollow python]

@elfin venture So I took a look at Faraday Cage and I'm not sure if the shields sharing a PC with the shields is a good idea, wouldn't it be better if they just took batteries from the LR?

[elfin venture]

i wasn't sure either so i just didn't assign anything from memory

thing about them being powered by the LR is that it makes the response too slow

by the time someone grabs a battery the now unshielded walkway is probably shot through

[hollow python]

Also Forcecage is evil

[elfin venture]

hopefully all of these are severely annoying

[elfin venture]

i made the entire ship for the "tractor beam beam" pun first and foremost

[hollow python]

lol

[toxic ocean]

Finally felt confident enough to start work on Nuclear Abomination — My second size ship. I really shot myself in the foot by wanting to have a complex and organic shape, I tried making the shape of this at least TEN times.

[hollow python]

Portobella

[toxic ocean]

A what.

Welp. This is shaping up as very possibly my most difficult and complex hull design to date.

[tired vapor]

mushroom

[toxic ocean]

grib

[desert trail]

good luck, (also you have 7 days left)

[toxic ocean]

ya

[toxic ocean]

And this entire week I'll be going with my father on road trips because he has his unlimited fuel work car available :>

sigh

I might only submit 2 ships.

[desert trail]

you could submit the ships that you previusly made but forgot to post if you do run out of time / ideas

as a back up plan

[toxic ocean]

Anywaays I'm pleasantly surprised that nobody has made a Ragnaok joke/reference yet, looks like we all grew out of that phase.

[toxic ocean]

Naah, how will that ever out-compete my sworn rival Meekoz?

[desert trail]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

no idea

but the great news nowadays is you dont have to worry about them as long as your ships look good, witch they usualy do

[grizzled sequoia]

I originally only want to make 1 ship and submit 2 other from my pre built, but now I want all of my submissions with the same theme

[small breach]

wellllllll you don't need to

me omw to say this tournament's entire theme is you don't need to compete

[slim fog]

Remade my first DC ship, T'guliat, to be more like my new ships

[lament skiff]

looks sick

[slow axle]

That one sick of an improvement!

[elfin venture]

a second meekoz post has hit the #1059085469708734515

oh no it looks sick

and i thought my structure was sometimes over the top...

[tribal heath]

This one looks good, huh?

[elfin venture]

i do question why the ship appears to be upside down though

[tribal heath]

It's because the orientation of skull face

[small breach]

damn even built ins started doing pip bug

[vernal lance]

just rubbing it in i see

[lament skiff]

What is pip bug

[small breach]

picture in picture gets fucked up because the ship's actual orientation is different from the default orientation so you target somewhere but it targets somewhere far away

[past bramble]

is reverse thrust a must?

[desert trail]

yes

i think, it might also depend on what kind of ship it is also but not sure

yep: "some amount of reverse thrust"

for ai pathfinding and geting stuck on stuff

some of the builtin orbiters and rammers dont have reverse thrust tho, so i dont know.......

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

At least a slight bit.

[desert trail]

oh hey nick, you have 6 days left til deadline

-# time to lurk in random chanles now....

[elfin venture]

chanles

[desert trail]

yes i english very mutch

[elfin venture]

aboslutely

lmao

[toxic ocean]

OK so today we went to Gori the birthplace of Stalin to visit my relatives, it was very cool but also one less day for DC

Here's a photo of the Gori city hall as an alibi :>

I was indeed not procrastinating.

[late zenith]

love seeing so many lesser known or newer players submit their ships for the design drive

[lament skiff]

^

[elfin venture]

also love seeing how off-the-wall some people can get

[elfin venture]

like those nebula paint ships you did

and Pav coming in with the wildest submission i have ever seen

[past bramble]

"reverse" thrusters

i feel like the magic omnithrust is faster

yea same speed with magic omnithrust so it is just the magic omnithrust doing the work

[lament skiff]

Le bric

[tribal heath]

How fast this

[slow axle]

The reverse on that thing!

[past bramble]

105 ish

i just remembered something

is sensor required?

ah i do need sensors

welp back to building

[mortal cave]

[toxic ocean]

Is it the king brick? The royal brick?

Wait I WAS RIGHT on the name!

[lament skiff]

@mortal cave do submissions close beginning or end of the 24th

[mortal cave]

#tournament-announcements message

The end, anyway, but frankly I don't think you should be cutting it that close

[lament skiff]

Well i just got an idea for my 3rd submission earlier today and i work every day until the 25th so it will unfortunately be close

[slow axle]

Having the extra week we usually have removed really be gone a lot of comfort.

You are not alone, Concrete, I too have a short schedule 🤝

[elfin venture]

see this is why i just make my DC ships immediately then look at them in my spare time for flaws before submitting them while inevitably ending up making something in a built-in style that looks far better but cannot be submitted

[slow axle]

I do not have the luxury of painting as fast as you do unfortunately.

The best I could do is submit prebuilts

[elfin venture]

The secret is autism

[lament skiff]

I have older things to submit and I have made other things since the DC started but nothing really feels good enough except for two so far

[elfin venture]

have you finished that piano ship? it looked so sick

[lament skiff]

no it is a lost cause for now 🗿

it’s too artsy for me, not enough shipsy

[elfin venture]

wait did i miss something or have you only submitted one ship

[past bramble]

i hope its going to be a prick to fight

[elfin venture]

i shall test that and find out

most of the contest ships so far look like they'd be pricks to fight

[past bramble]

if i had the money i would have liked if it to have more thrust

106 is respectable, but no where near oppressive enough for my liking

[elfin venture]

106 jeebus

[past bramble]

i want 120

atleast

[elfin venture]

my fastest ship is like 94 (though it also has 6 TBs so its extremely oppressive movement-wise)

[past bramble]

it only can beat the shield reliant built ins

anything with armor spam it just loses

[mortal cave]

I think something incredibly funny is that while parts of the community complain about architect built ins being too difficult or reminiscent of competitive ships, on the other side of the community the people with a chance to put ships in the game are pushing as far as possible in the 'bad' direction

[lament skiff]

Tempestbreaker is done more or less I’m just double and triple checking for little improvements before deadline

[past bramble]

it will be sacrilege to the original PvP version if I gimped its combat performance

[lament skiff]

Also I went through a few design phases on my newest ship and scrapped the 160 m/s ion orbiter design because the AI simply cant handle it

which i wish wasn’t the case cause it would be so funny

[past bramble]

rereading the rules to see if i miss anything and saw this

Ships with modular thrusters should have at least some additional maneuvering thrusters of another type.
This helps the AI fly better.

hmm this might be an issue

6 standard reverse thrust should be fine right?

[lament skiff]

Nah it had more huges than mrt’s and good reverse thrust

oh ur ship

depends on the size but yeah that’s plenty imo, i dont put that much on my ships

[elfin venture]

ok update
uh noticeable issue: the small reactors in the middle are missing power assignments that prevents the HE modules from working

outside of that it's honestly not a royal prick to fight
Is it a good and strong ship? Yes
Is it a prick? No

It's very beatable with several ion ships of the right size and is very vulnerable to missiles, nukes, and EMPs as it has absolutely no protection on its sides or rear

[past bramble]

the main ship i want to spite are slower kites so its good enough

[elfin venture]

this is what im talking about with the noticeable issue

[past bramble]

gonna quickly fix that

[elfin venture]

as for the ships i beat it with:

• Conclusion (Hybrid ion/cg barge) (400k disadvantage)
• Plutonium (Nuke/cg cruiser/barge) (20k advantage)
• Crystal Storm (Missileboat) (400k disadvantage, all 4 reactors intact but armour just about pierced)
• Anything Goes (hybrid nuke/ion/dc/railgun barge) (barely, 300k disadvantage)
• Revenant (missile/ion cruiser that is slightly underarmoured but has a 200k) advantage

It did beat the Collection (splitter) so it can manage swarms well

@desert trail Whirling Shard's .ship file seems to... not be a ship file

It looks fine but it doesn't have the .ship extension in its name for some reason

[past bramble]

i need 1 more ship

probably recycle

[toxic ocean]

You know me too badly.

Anyways today I'm free and after that I won't be able to play Cosmoteer for at least two days and at most a week, so might have to speedrun my babbies right now.

If I become desparate enough I will have to submit old ships as placeholder.

[elfin venture]

ok to elaborate @desert trail the .ship file of Whirling Shards is not a ship file at all and cannot be used
i tried manually adding ".ship" to the file name

[desert trail]

oke doke let me fix that

[toxic ocean]

This ship is turning out to be one of my absolute best, I swear.

[small breach]

partical accelerator shenanigans

[toxic ocean]

It's like a bigger Ballista.

[desert trail]

looks pridy good, just remember you have 5 days left

[toxic ocean]

Actually I have 1 day left, that's why I'm speedrunning so hard.

[desert trail]

you can do it

[small breach]

we believe in you

[toxic ocean]

Yayy

[wispy vigil]

Isn't the end date the 24th and it's the 20th

[slow axle]

Yes, and you haven't submited a single ship <3

Nick has to go on the 21th for several days so he can only spend this last day speedrunning

[wispy vigil]

nah

[toxic ocean]

Actuallyyy
I have a laptop that I almost never use, which I got thanks to finishing every single school year on excellent marks (That's a thing we do in Georgia), it is not strong but has Cosmoteer on it. I might take it where I'm going and two or three days later I might be able to use it :>

I'm waaaay too tired and burnt out right now to continue the work, sorry.

[toxic ocean]

@mortal cave Slightly bizarre question, but is ''decorative fire extinguisher'' allowed? I used it to make these pertruded seams on one of my ships and shiny extrusions on the other.

I'm asking this because it is technically a functional module without doors.

[mortal cave]

I could never have fathomed this coming up. I think you're insane and probably shouldn't do it, but its also fine. You can keep it, if its a no go from Walt I'll edit them out myself later

[toxic ocean]

Yes, I am insane, thanks for the words of confirmation 👍

[sonic breach]

Next up: decorative deck guns, bc they look awesome

[elfin venture]

been there, done that

[sonic breach]

I shouldn't be suprised

[elfin venture]

funny thing is that i literally made that yesterday

[spring haven]

Paint is finished.

[mortal cave]

Where's the fourth color?

[lament skiff]

black, blue, lighter blue, yellow

[slow axle]

Can someone hand me a timestamp of the deadline date?

I am nearly done ^-^

[toxic ocean]

OK I'll be going ya'll, you might catch a glimpse of me submitting my last two entries [if I manage to finish them in time] but otherwise, I won't be available.

[elfin venture]

end of the 24th

assume midnight in US time

[slow axle]

So in the night of the 24th & 25th

[elfin venture]

yea

[small breach]

byeeee

[slow axle]

Glad it's not the 23th & 24th. I would have melted

[past bramble]

@mortal cave even though boost cant be used by AI, using them for decor perposes is fine right?

[mortal cave]

Yes, but keep it within reason

[past bramble]

ok just confirming because i want the longer nozzle

[desert trail]

thats the entire reason i use those

[elfin venture]

hey grant

I played around with whirling shards a bit
not the strongest ship but damn it's incredibly fun

[desert trail]

yep,

espetualy since the number of mine orbiters we have is 4, so we need more

and out of those only one uses mines as the main weapon

[vernal lance]

savath immortal naming ships normally

I'm proud of him

[lament skiff]

i feel like i successfully cooked

at least one of these has to get in

[small breach]

they're all fire

[grizzled sequoia]

All of them get in design wise

[tired vapor]

not sure about the purple one

i like the blue one

[small breach]

the urple one is the best though

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[small breach]

guess i have to pick a class

[slow axle]

Did I cooked

[desert trail]

think so, looks well done

[slow axle]

Thanks you

I can rest in peace

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/620121312395919360.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[lament skiff]

ye

[small breach]

hell yeah

[desert trail]

-# why do I feel like half the ships are orbiters lol

[elfin venture]

yea
though i have a question
why does Black Moon Light's glory shot show it with nukes while the .ship file has HE missiles?

[lament skiff]

Which ships?

[elfin venture]

i don't actually know if black moon light is an orbiter
but there's Stream of Dreams from Kine, Forcecage, Whirling Shards from Grant, all 3 of Jewjuice's ships, Ironsights from Mungbean, and Oblitus Superstes from Itchy

Design contests always have a disproportionately higher number of orbiters and also often rammers as well

[lament skiff]

Me submitting 3 rammers

[elfin venture]

Me submitting one rammer, one orbiter, and one semikiter to preserve the balance

[median patio]

Ion even know how to make a orbiter

[tired vapor]

true!!

(agrihand is going to be replaced with a rammer most likely)

i think i am going to scrap this one bc i need to paint it better and not sure how to proceed

soemtimes i build things and then realize "oh wow i am going to take 5 irl hours to crew this because i built it like a pvp ship"

[bronze citrus]

submissions locked in 👍

[elfin venture]

just looked at them
nice, if a tad samey

also lol fallout

[bronze citrus]

glad to have actually chosen to commit to the diag bit, i actually learned how to paint them ok

[tired vapor]

nice \👍

[bronze citrus]

i mean theyre supposed to be from the same faction

maybe having 2 nuke dia barges was samey but i like them

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-25921146

[bronze citrus]

and the steel's wrath is pretty different

[tired vapor]

independent contest w/ "faction"?

[bronze citrus]

an independent faction

are independents just supposed to be literally 1 person?

[elfin venture]

No

[bronze citrus]

the lore behind these guys is they are prideful and expensive mercenaries

[elfin venture]

It is a little odd to mention the faction in the description but xderp did it too

[elfin venture]

Do, they, perhaps, wear power armour?

[bronze citrus]

[tired vapor]

true

[bronze citrus]

it wasnt really intentional. i did have the idea of "steel" before i thought of the reference

i will change the name if it becomes problematic, but its a pretty general name anyways. i doubt it matters

the original idea was "legion of steel" or something but that didnt really work with the vibe of mercenaries

too sinister

[elfin venture]

i have a group of mercenary ships called the Crystal Fleet

[late zenith]

For this dc I made fog people

[elfin venture]

I saw those

they're cool

[lament skiff]

I guess there’s no rule saying you can’t make a mini faction out of the independents but imo each independent should be like, independent

[elfin venture]

if only one of them gets in then it will be independent

lmao

[lament skiff]

Well i wouldnt want the ships to not make it into the game but at the same time if they don’t then it can be awkward

like when only one of kaine’s twin ships made it in

[tired vapor]

how do i add backtrhust/cp lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314115775319506955/1276380412414791720/temp.ship.png?ex=66c95164&is=66c7ffe4&hm=0ac5c42ddc2f62cf6f212bcc5c3dca2c74b17f720d646750ed9e76ca6198d6cf&

crew is all placeholder

actually cr can go here

[elfin venture]

viable backthrust locations

however you'll need to either remove the standard thrusters or change the structure

[tired vapor]

back part won't work

maybe i can pretask with boost instead of hl

[elfin venture]

why not

[tired vapor]

missile and strafe are needed

also feels too wasteful

[elfin venture]

you'll lose a whopping 1 standard thrust and the missile won't be blocked

[tired vapor]

the logistics would cost more than the thrust

[elfin venture]

theres also nothing stopping you from moving the missile o ver by 1 tile if you need to

fym the logistics its token backthrust

[tired vapor]

the thing stopping me is it will collide more

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[elfin venture]

if the backthrust is only there because it needs to be then you dont need to do shit as long as it works

[tired vapor]

:despair: i will die if it cannot sustain cheaply

i'll hust replace the hl with boost

[elfin venture]

it'll also be like one small thruster

[tired vapor]

i think the magic thrust would be faster than that lol

[elfin venture]

you can sustain one small thruster with the energy provided by rubbing 2 sticks together in the next suburb

[tired vapor]

crewing tiny thrusts is actually awful

[elfin venture]

why

[tired vapor]

bc i said so it should be theoretically possible to do it cheaply but they are very stupid so u need to do a lot of hybridizing with random parts or there will be lots of crew, energy or thrust wastage

[elfin venture]

...what

fym they're very stupid
make crew power the thrusters you want

i don't see how that's hard, their power consumption is tiny

[tired vapor]

then i am wasting crew usually :( it should be possible to use less

[elfin venture]

just use the crew that are powering the other thrusters

a small thruster needs 1 battery every century it's not any additional strain

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

me when calculations suggest i need 234 crew but i am using 236

[tired vapor]

runs into sustain or crew overdraw issues usually

[elfin venture]

I have never had that happen

[tired vapor]

u r probably drawing more crew than is theoretically needed

[elfin venture]

That is because I have better things to do than calculate the exact number of crew i need

my ships could definitely be optimized further but i am not doing that

and an advantage of not stretching crew: you don't need to be precise

[tired vapor]

true

[elfin venture]

if you are already overcrewed then you can add stuff without worrying about how to supply it

[tired vapor]

also true, but then u r wasting crew :(

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

[elfin venture]

Wasting crew is the least of the problems on ships like these that are there for the sake of aesthetics

[tired vapor]

why waste crew though

when u can just.. not

the ship is already not very good, no reason to make it worse

[elfin venture]

all of these ships are actually decent for their price

thing is, i don't need to save like 5k by optimizing some crew out of the equation

i could rephrase it because optimizing crew isn't a free action

why spend an hour optimizing crew when you can just not?

[tired vapor]

rather spend it on aesthetics? the way nugg prioritizes piloting over building

[elfin venture]

for the same reason
why spend an hour painting your ship when you can just not?

[tired vapor]

i don't think i've ever finished crewing within an hour

[elfin venture]

why play cosmoteer when you can just not, to take it ridiculously far

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868

[elfin venture]

i like my ships to look nice, so i spend more time on making them look nice

you like your ships optimized, so you spend more time on optimizing them

all comes back to personal preferences

[tired vapor]

true

[deep mirage]

They got some fire descriptions to explain its flaws.

I can never come up with something like that.

[elfin venture]

i think Inlustris' description doesn't even mention the LS, only the power issues

which is true i genuinely didn't realise what i'd have to do with power until after making the ship

though i am not from mono

[deep mirage]

I don't know how to work the wonders of description that can save a lacking design.

I mean some of my ships have descriptions.

[elfin venture]

i don't think descriptions can ever "save" a ship design

imo there's like 3 main kinds

[bronze citrus]

a description cant save a lacking design. those ships arent lacking designs but cool, less difficult ships that have clear weaknesses and counters

[elfin venture]

• quote
• strategic description
• lore

in the 3 ships i sent, Fortune's Favour has a quote, Inlustris has a strategic description, and Veteran has lore

[deep mirage]

I'll keep this in mind.

[elfin venture]

quotes are great for short, snappy, and memorable ones, they can make ships more intimidating or generally cool

strat. descriptions can make people appreciate otherwise difficult to notice parts of the design

[past bramble]

The descript of my ship only reference the fact they were at some point pvp ships

[elfin venture]

lore is good for making the ship feel unique and expanding on the story of your faction

strat. desc and lore can kinda overlap

[deep mirage]

Then I might want to rework the description of my largest ship.

[mortal cave]

Descriptions will be completely ignored concerning the aesthetics of a ship, so they can't save them, but if its bad enough it could condemn a design, at least

[bronze citrus]

fringe moment

[deep mirage]

That's the word.

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[mortal cave]

Racist or biggoted comments come to mind as examples

So pro-tip: don't

[bronze citrus]

huh?

oh

[tired vapor]

oh i see

not what i was thinking of lol

[elfin venture]

why tf would anyone put that in a ship desc

[bronze citrus]

has that... happened??

[tired vapor]

didn't even occur to me it could happen

[elfin venture]

probably at least once lmao

[bronze citrus]

ig someone could def add a really fucked up description as a "joke" and hope archis dont notice

[mortal cave]

There's been a few examples. One time guy thought he was real clever by claiming "there's context lost via translation" as to why his ships were named obscene things in polish

[elfin venture]

ah

[bronze citrus]

lol

[deep mirage]

Well I can't exactly fix in what I don't find wrong in and making descriptions and going over it again it feels like I ain't improving.

[lament skiff]

my descriptions make my ships tbh

[elfin venture]

reminds me of Porca Miseria basically being named "god dammit"

but it's not obscene just funny

[tired vapor]

someone needs to submit a missile barge caleld penis in a different language

[bronze citrus]

i dont think descriptions can make a ship though general lore that is interwoven well into the design can

[elfin venture]

problem is that doesn't translate all that well

my ships make my descriptions

[lament skiff]

penetrator-15

[bronze citrus]

not even obscene just an observation

[elfin venture]

oh btw concrete is Tempestbreaker a frostpunk reference at all

[tired vapor]

true

[lament skiff]

not as far as im aware

[deep mirage]

Just realize I've been typing not in the ships channel.

[elfin venture]

lmao

[lament skiff]

i actually did recently buy frostpunk but i havent played it yet

[elfin venture]

only city building game with a boss fight

[lament skiff]

untrue smh

[bronze citrus]

cult of the lamb

[elfin venture]

is that a city builder? i thought it was a roguelite

[bronze citrus]

its a city builder roguelite

[tired vapor]

i mean, technically

[bronze citrus]

though you could argue its not really on a city scale

[mortal cave]

Cult of the Lamb selected as many genres as it could

[bronze citrus]

ig "townbuilder" would be more appropriate

[elfin venture]

besides im pretty sure the cotl bosses aren't fought with the city but rather with the sword

[tired vapor]

i thought every new run was unique

like save file

actualky ig roguelite yeah

[bronze citrus]

its still a "citybuilder with bossfights"

[elfin venture]

in frostpunk its just your city and cold to the power of cold

[tired vapor]

what about rimworld

[elfin venture]

never played it; i have no idea

[bronze citrus]

its a shame it didnt work out too great in terms of actual long term playability. had a lot of potential and its still a good game but it gets really old after the first couple playthroughs

probably cause they stretched themselves very thin

go figure

[flint abyss]

what do we want to make ?
the devs: yes

[lament skiff]

theres a game called Dyson Sphere Program which is a city builder except you have to cover entire planets in cities and at some point a nondescript evil space swarm comes through

[elfin venture]

you gotta admire the developers literally making the sex update

[elfin venture]

oh i didn't know that happened wow lmao

[tired vapor]

when is cosmoteer going to do that

#ask-walt "what are your thoughts on cosmoteer sex update"

[bronze citrus]

in dsp??? how

[elfin venture]

no in cotl

[bronze citrus]

sex update before replayability

bravo devs

[elfin venture]

i mean that gives you some replayability

for all the wrong reasons

[lament skiff]

it kinda ass since theres only one type of defense building so you just basically have to add more logistics to your logistical nightmare so your planets dont explode

[bronze citrus]

:P

[elfin venture]

how about we talk about something else

[elfin venture]

oh

sadge

[lament skiff]

i am feeling hollow without dc ships to build

[elfin venture]

play noita

[tired vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[lament skiff]

ok

[tired vapor]

dcss is good \👍

you will play 500 hours before ever getting close to winning

[elfin venture]

dcss?

[tired vapor]

!hoursperwin .

oh wait

lol

[lament skiff]

that does not sound like something i have time for

[elfin venture]

wtf

[lament skiff]

[tired vapor]

wow i've improved a lot Total playtime divided by wins for cfcfcfcfcf: 67.67 hours

[lament skiff]

and i already have poe which i am 1k hours in without winning

[elfin venture]

wtf is dcss

[tired vapor]

a traditional roguelike: dungeon crawl stone soup

with unfun and grindy mechanics like instadeath and scooping up whole floors to sell at shops and food purely as a clock removed

[elfin venture]

why did you call it good

[tired vapor]

never played a better roguelike

[lament skiff]

have you played boneraiser minions

[tired vapor]

nope

[lament skiff]

that is a better roguelike to play

[bronze citrus]

is it that thing you play in a browser?

[tired vapor]

yeah you can

[elfin venture]

have you played Noita, or FTL?

[tired vapor]

webtiles

[bronze citrus]

yeah

it looked cool

[tired vapor]

i wouldn't call ftl a roguelike

noita sure

[bronze citrus]

ftl is categorically a roguelike

or roguelite ig

[elfin venture]

roguelite then if you're willing to be pedantic

[tired vapor]

yes \👍

i mean like a tile based turn based dungeon crawler

[elfin venture]

also try Wizard of Legend it's very fun adhd game

[bronze citrus]

fun fact every roguelike has vertical progression its called becoming better

[elfin venture]

Not noita

[bronze citrus]

i think theres a time and place for vertical progression

[bronze citrus]

very true

[tired vapor]

true

[elfin venture]

Noita has the progression of knowing more stuff but knowledge only gets you so far

[lament skiff]

my favorite roguelike is path of exile cause each run takes 4 irl months

[bronze citrus]

vamp survivors died for me because the endgame is all just vertical progression

i mean its also just boring asf

[tired vapor]

my average dcss win is 2.5 hours (very quick :D)

...compared to the streakers who spend 16+ hours a run

[lament skiff]

soulstone survivors is the better vampire survivors-like

out of noita, dcss, and frostpunk, which will give me the most dopamine in 2 hrs before i eep

[elfin venture]

noita probably

frostpunk does not give dopamine

[tired vapor]

noita :despair:

frostpunk :despair:

dcss as noob :despair:

[elfin venture]

noita is fun because whenever i die its not my fault and i can have a gud laugh about it

[tired vapor]

you spend first 10ish hours learning controls

it's a traditional roguelike afterall

[elfin venture]

i have a vivid memory of my first ever discovery of the Giga Chainsaw spell

[tired vapor]

you use the whole keyboard and all the special characters and caps do stuff too and you even use ctrl as a modifier for some actions

[lament skiff]

oh that sucks

i use a 60% keyboard lol

[tired vapor]

roguelikes :( worth it imo

they're relatively standardized

[past bramble]

Hmm yes very on topic

[tired vapor]

i named my ship after something from dcss so it's ok

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Makhleb

[lament skiff]

my 1 hr free pass to talk about other things

[past bramble]

Understandable, have a great day

[lament skiff]

noita time ig

[slow axle]

I don't know, nukes bright glow look more pretty

[slow axle]

It's not an orbiter >:(
It's a kite! A kite faster than most built-in of it's cost

[novel coyote]

huh, that's weird
the AI sets the attack distance a lot closer than the set default

that cant be good for its performance

[slow axle]

Ow, why it does that

[grizzled sequoia]

done

and here some abandoned concept

@raven socket isn't the minimum cost 100K

[elfin venture]

a third meekoz

these all look awesome but my favourites are the winged one and the green one

[grizzled sequoia]

the horns one is form over fanction just want to make a ship with that mechanism for dc, and the weakest out of the three

[tired vapor]

may i optimize when if it gets in

https://tenor.com/view/isforme-is-mine-mine-me-gif-21988878

[tired vapor]

i hate mrt

oh it's because i forgot to actually make my hybrid crew role

i just called it hybrid crew role as a placeholder

[raven socket]

Oh I forgot

Will delete

Thanks for mentioning

[tired vapor]

bruh that was the entire issue

i spent 40 min debugging this

i knew it should work from intuition

well more like 30

flesh out roles -> paint -> done \👍

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

somehow i have 0 operators

they are all hybrid

[vernal lance]

I am cooking something absolutely radioactive

[grizzled sequoia]

all of them?

[tired vapor]

yeah probably

[small breach]

well i did submit an orbiter

except ai can't use it

[toxic ocean]

(It's a scam, don't trust him)

[desert trail]

Like it doesn't go around in circles?

[small breach]

ye but it should work like concrete's but with fanning every 4 seconds

[desert trail]

Do you think you can record a gif of it. I still can't quite figure out how thats supposed to work

Like I think I understand. But not quite

[small breach]

on it

[desert trail]

i have acsess to my computer now, so i can look at the ship png, think i might have figured out why it wasint orbiting, assumeing this is the ship that should be orbiting anyway

basicly the ai was set to normal attack, that and the png being flipped might have been the other reason for it attacking strangely. should orbit now

[small breach]

i think you confused me with xsnow or something because i was talking about sädekivi

[desert trail]

well..... thats some what awkward i supose......

[small breach]

but anyway here it is

somewhat like it but faster and with shooting

[desert trail]

it can orbit, but it cant realy attack while doing that.
the way you set it being a rammer seems to work decently well, but with the weaponry i think it being a kite might work better,

i did actualy flip the front thrusters to see if that would help it kite and it does help a lot,

no idea if helps, but it is a good ship

[small breach]

that's why i said ai can't usee it well

[small breach]

true but then it's just nick's ship without tb

[desert trail]

sorta, but i dont think he has mines

the mines help make it anti rammer

[small breach]

it does

[desert trail]

hmmm, interesting

[small breach]

my ship is basically nick's but orbiter

instead of kite

[desert trail]

i'd love it to be an orbiter, but it physicaly can't and that pains me

[small breach]

i mean it can in pvp atleast

not that it'll work well there tho

[desert trail]

yep....

at least it looks cool, thats defintly something good it has goeing

[desert trail]

35 hours to go before contest submitions are closed

[tired vapor]

- someone who has had 1 ship optimized by me, and then immediately discarded the objectively better ion setup

[hollow python]

More air beef

[slow axle]

Okay that more time than I had anticipated
I thought it ended 4 hours ago lmao

[desert trail]

Yeah, basically still have about a day or so

Any way, have any of you tried blending spicy doritos and salt n vinegar fishees together and eating them? It's quite good

All of my siblings hate it

I'm thinking of making breadEd chicken at some point using the blended doritos

Spicy chicken

[tired vapor]

also why scam? @toxic ocean

i don't think i've ever made a ship worse by touching it

if you wanted me to not change any structure and only work w/ crew roles/assigns then i can do that too

[mortal cave]

Aesthetics and objectively better physical structure can be incongruous

[tired vapor]

true

but there is almost always stuff you can do that does not overly affect physical structure, or can still be in a patternistic way that is aesthetically ok

example:

except sometimes i clear out too much space and don't know what to do w/ it

[mortal cave]

Mmm I like those ships

But the right one is pretty obviously better

[tired vapor]

how so? other than the lack of random holes

[tired vapor]

i don't think i will have time to replace agrihand :(

but it would have been replaced by this

[spring haven]

You have 31 hours left,it might still be possible.

[tired vapor]

i have so much work to do despair