design contest chat

[gentle plover]

Wow

[toxic ocean]

Letsa go

[small breach]

anyways i think making voting ingame would be better as more players would accesses it and it would be tied to a steam account that owns the game

[oak plaza]

Last place but still had it...

[deft kayak]

I'm glad quartz made it, nobody was talking about how good it was, and it got third

[toxic ocean]

I was kinda expecting most of those chinese subs to win.

[rose swan]

Hemipepsis didn't though, and I liked it just as much.

[toxic ocean]

Hemipepsis?

[small breach]

chinese people too good

[rose swan]

月胧星烁's submissions were pretty great.

[toxic ocean]

Oh right the red one.

[small breach]

yeah

both of them were great

[oak plaza]

There are a lot of great ships in this line up...
Walt will pick those for sure...

[open stag]

Better luck next time

[small breach]

i bet walt would either pick itchy's ship or ctrl's ship

[oak plaza]

If my paint skills don't improve, I don't think I will be joining the next design contest...

Hahahahahaha
Didn't wanna lose my winning streak...

[deft kayak]

lol

[small breach]

maybe one of my ships but i don't think that'll happen, very unlikely

[small breach]

bro i need to start a winning streak

[toxic ocean]

I was so disappointed that you didn't win 😭

[deft kayak]

I can't wait until the next one, my submission in this one was really weak even by my standards

[small breach]

itchy's ship was very good

[oak plaza]

Now that you say those things guys, I feel like I didn't deserve to win here...

There are more absolute bangers of a ship...

[small breach]

nah your ships were epic

don't be like nick when he won the pvp tournament

[oak plaza]

Nah, you are buttering me up...

[oak plaza]

Care to explain @toxic ocean...?

[small breach]

the people have decided that you will win and you did and that's all that matters

[oak plaza]

Thanks for the people's support then...

[small breach]

he won the pvp tournament and said he felt like he didn't deserve to win

[toxic ocean]

I was like what?

[oak plaza]

Damn, I won 2nd on Essay Writing, 3rd on Cosplay and then now both my ships in last place....

That's just an early birthday present for me...

[small breach]

you said you didn't deserve to win because of reasons in the stream chat iirc

[oak plaza]

I think our guy just wanna be humble...

Hahahahahaha

[gentle plover]

Where to properly thank Oneeye for organizing the contest? Hope there will be continuation… soon…

[small breach]

even though you totally did deserve to get first place

[small elm]

I voted for Empyrean Argur, Ctrl's ship, Immtrm's flying chandelier, activatewindow's omipresence and Spacecat's dual ion design.

[toxic ocean]

I honestly can't remember. All I said is that I didn't deserve such high honor.

Not like I cheated my way (Unless you're the kind of scums that consider usage of mines cheating :>)

[toxic ocean]

Flying chandelier x squidward

[small breach]

mine usage just made you deserve it more

[oak plaza]

It's not cheating...
Its creative use of game mechanics...

[toxic ocean]

I guess lmao, the most underrated weapon in the game.

[small breach]

anyways with prayers i might get walts pick inshallah

[toxic ocean]

I hope Itchy will be blessed by Walt.

He deserves it 🥺

[oak plaza]

Walt is literally on right now...
Maybe they are picking right now...

[small breach]

itchy and ctrl deserve it equally, atleast in my opinion, i deserve it less

[deft kayak]

I voted echo of the abyss, quartz, empyrean auger, man'o'war, and omnipresence

[toxic ocean]

I didn't deserve your blessing Piston?

[deft kayak]

You were already going to win lol

[gentle plover]

I didnt vote on Federal Menace and if it has 9 votes i will feel very bad

[oak plaza]

Yea Bro, give the votes for us...
Hahahahahaha

[oak plaza]

Where to see the full results...?

[deft kayak]

Same with Kaine, there were so many good ships I had to pass voting on yours and just hope they won regardless

[small breach]

honestly i just looked at ships adn voted for the most unique as the higher quality ones will definitely win

[oak plaza]

But I CLENCHED it...
Any lower and it might not make it...

But any higher, there will be one less ship...

[deft kayak]

Yeah lol

[toxic ocean]

Welp, how'd you figure that Immortal wasn't going to?

[small breach]

piston loop was the tiebreaker

technically if nick and immtrm tied more ships would've won

[toxic ocean]

We found the imposter, time to fire up le coils

[oak plaza]

Aight...

[small breach]

itchy would've definitely gotten in with ctrl

maybe even some of my ships

[toxic ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-nikolatesla-teslanikola-sigma-sigma-male-gif-27094207

[oak plaza]

Nah, there are only supposed to be 10 ships...
But the last place just had to match with 3 so it's 11...

[deft kayak]

I'm not a psychic

[toxic ocean]

But we all know how good and respected Immortal's ships are :)
I was always sure I wasn't gonna edge him out.

And not like I deserve it.

[deft kayak]

Anyways I can't wait for the full results you come out, I wonder if anyone wasted a vote on me

[small breach]

i'd say you do, your ship was way more unique imo, maybe less paint quality but definitely more unique imo

[toxic ocean]

His is objectively better, it's just that I'm a biased egoist.

[oak plaza]

Staying humble I see...
Hahahahahaha

[small elm]

kinda glad I didn't get there tbh, I can repaint Sentry so it doens't look liek it's been through a bad carwash when i'm better at painting and enter it again.

[toxic ocean]

Huh?

[oak plaza]

Never give up Bro...
There will be many more to come...

[toxic ocean]

Yeah I thought I'd edge his quality with my originality, but it didn't work.

||Guess originality is indeed overrated 😔||

[deft kayak]

Says the person who got 24 votes

[small breach]

(combined that message with this one #1059084974655033415 message)

[oak plaza]

That's why I've gone mainstream...
But where did that leave me...

[toxic ocean]

Oh if I'd won I think I would be the only present person on this discord to have won both a tournament and a DC

High honor, and it is too much for me lmao

[oak plaza]

You can still do so next time...

[toxic ocean]

Would probably struggle with creating a new magnum opus of mine that will edge out that one...

Like Superconductor really was my passion, based after something I adore and with very unique design decisions.

[oak plaza]

Let's see about what will be the next theme first...

[small breach]

next time i'm using a more unique greener scheme

[toxic ocean]

It is probably untoppable for my current ||(HAHAAA ELECTRICITY JOKE DO YOU GET IT DO YOU GET IT)|| skill level.

[lament skiff]

green don’t work

[tired vapor]

why not export it to google sheets and share that?

[oak plaza]

You know...
I'm thinking of just having a big green overcoat to my ship...

So that it can be any ship design...

||the joke is greenscreen...||

[small breach]

i meant shinier more alien green

[oak plaza]

Stop that or you'll get watts coming...

[toxic ocean]

Oh yeah can't wait for Watt's pick to come around...

[small breach]

walt waltz in to stop the watts

[toxic ocean]

Hmmm..... I will need another very unique style next time... Maybe I'll actually push with the pre-historic theme.

[gentle plover]

watt are you talking about?

[small breach]

nick's shocking behavior

[gentle plover]

Haha

[toxic ocean]

Okay I will actually have to turn on the tesla coil.

:)

[small breach]

soon he'll join the ampere because of his electrifying attitude

[small breach]

make something relating to the core of the earth

[oak plaza]

I wanna incorporate my lesson to cosmoteer...

I had this idea of having the game as my PPT presentation as I type the words from my report/discussion to the decals and move a ship per board to board and present like that...

But my main thought is, I wanna incorporate words as decals in my next ship if possible...

[toxic ocean]

Rotten core?
No, MOLTEN core.

[small breach]

No, SUNDERED core

[toxic ocean]

Using cosmoteer character decals for paint is an age old trick I've taken a usage of too.

[lament skiff]

Armored core

[oak plaza]

Not like that, but as in real words not just letters...

[toxic ocean]

Oh lol.

Reminds me of the old Big Ben with time puns galore.

ACTUALLY I might make a bigger big ben.

THE BIGGEST BEN!

Like a clock tower ship.

[small breach]

make the eye of london

[oak plaza]

Imagine if I'm going to teach and the visual aid I present is a damn creative world...

With all my slides on ships...

[small breach]

or that bridge

[lament skiff]

I hope there’s another dc this month

i dont wanna wait for another one

[oak plaza]

Christmas DC...

[small breach]

same

there probably wouldn't be

they'll delay it to christmas

[toxic ocean]

Steampunk tower :DDD

How'd I incorporate it in game form though.

[small breach]

i can't believe that missed this game when i went and tried to play every single armorgames game

[oak plaza]

Aight, I'm going to sleep now guys...
Its 2:40 Am here...

GN guys...

[gentle plover]

GN

[toxic ocean]

HOW DOES ONE DO THAT
This is like one of the most iconic Armor Games installement.

Also my childhood favorite together with the Nitrome classic Steamlands.

Yes I was really into steampunk as a kid even though I never actually understood it.

Something about rushing hot air in fancy brass tubes magically powering alien contraptions and big shiny gears always amazed me.

[small breach]

idk i only played all of the games that didn't require a mouse since i didn't have one back then

[lament skiff]

Bubble tanks >>>

[small breach]

bubble tanks was epic

[small breach]

good night

[small breach]

i spent my entire childhood trying to play that, unfortunately my older brother didn't allow me to do so, so i just played other games

[toxic ocean]

As with raw enjoinment nothing can come an order of magnitude as close to Steamlands for me.

[toxic ocean]

Why?

[small breach]

i honestly don't know

[ionic jay]

Tried that. It exports a list of every single response, not the overall stats.

[slow axle]

i'm afraik i might be the only one who voted Xsnow

[lusty ruin]

its okay i didnt make it either

i didnt vote for my ship though

[small breach]

honestly you're ship was really cool, too underdetailed and didn't really use the theme as much (making it less unique than others despite using a very cool theme) as the other ships so it didn't get many votes

however, not standing out doesn't mean it doesn't look good, it just means it doesn't look unique enough

[median patio]

Let's go 5th place!!!!

[small breach]

congratulations you deserved it

[median patio]

Thx

[lusty ruin]

I would like feedback to why mine was not voted for if there were reasons since it was my first time participating in one of these

[small breach]

same issue as xsnow

[slow axle]

see i wish i was told this before
although i was indeed told this i thought i made a decent job at catching it back

[toxic ocean]

To a lesser extent I'd say. It needs more paint, but it is using a lot of aesthetic details that were extremely unique, like the antlers.

[small breach]

on their case it was more of overall paint quality and that takes time to improve so it's understandable

[lusty ruin]

yeah its just having it based on an owl i just didnt know how to paint it more without it looking weird or not like an owl anymore

[slow axle]

honestly i love the paint, the design is so original what prevent me from voting it was (feedback i already given iirc) the armor sides being long flat lines and structure being too thin to help

[toxic ocean]

It is owl-based?

Hmm...

[lusty ruin]

yeah i could have added more support but I went more for looks and tried to go tight on the budget

[lusty ruin]

the face and body yeah

[toxic ocean]

I wonder when will Architect phase take place.

[lusty ruin]

the rest is more like nature deity

[small breach]

i think abandoning the main theme to make it look better on some parts would've been better, trading some uniqueness for a bit more quality sometimes is better

[slow axle]

hey walt pick are still left we both still got a chance!!!

[lusty ruin]

fair yeah i was thinking next time doing something more like immtrm where it uses more techniques and shading and paint in general but keep the uniqueness and shape

true lol

[small breach]

we all still have a chance, not equal but still a chamce

[lusty ruin]

i have a bad habit of making animal and insect themed ships

[slow axle]

walt is known for special tastes ship-wise and i love him for that

good habit

[small breach]

granted the inequality between the ships is unpredictable as this is walt we're talking about but it's still there

i bet he'll pick a really unique ship like either ctrl or itchy

both are really unique and imo deserve to win

[lament skiff]

waltuh please pick my ship waltuh

[lusty ruin]

this is my current career playthroughs ships one is a clam cargo ship and ones a deck cannon crab (their not super optimized or painted well because i keep upgrading them)

[small breach]

cool ships

[lusty ruin]

also theres a big yellow circle because i based the heart of the clam ship on a egg cargo ship i had

[lusty ruin]

thank u

[small breach]

very cute crab

[lusty ruin]

i feel like next contest i may go for insect

i cant wait for hinge joints and ship docking

thats not till phase 5 though

i want to make him be able to pinch that would be awesome

[median patio]

never thought my ship would come in 5th, expected 8th or 9th lol

[tight tapir]

Good job everyone!

Damn it was tight between Nick and Immtrm

I believe my votes were for quartz, superconductor, omnipresence, man o war, and zhe yu

[lament skiff]

I voted for pandaemonium, nuklearni, empyrean augur, and two i cant rember the names of

[small elm]

I'm not sure the theme and shape works Orusen.

[lusty ruin]

how so?

[gloomy whale]

OM, 4 of my votes get in and every CCC attender got a ship in!
Rosehipe got 3rd!
This is 100% gonna be an honor.

Yep. We only got 11 in (nit considering the possible Walt-pick), but I think it isn't hard to pick another 10 that feels worthy for people.

(I assume a lot would think you (and Immtrm) would be eye catchy enough to win any way, therefore came to other ships they want to offer a strength to help win. Also flavor issue exist, for example I don't really like both your work aside paint skills)

[past bramble]

Ei 5th not bad

[gloomy whale]

I have been confident that CCC members would be doing great, but this is beyond my expectation.

Maybe next time @ruby imp will be voted higher if not submitting two similarly sized and painted ships, which is really spreading the vote one got, but even like this we got through. Which is great.

Also Rosehip, She is** fantastic**. I really should try bring her here along as well but she seems don't have the mood to take care of a VPN so maybe.

[tired vapor]

alsome?

[lusty ruin]

Honestly mine could have been given more time and effort and now I also know how these work a bit better and what kind of thing people will vote for, I did rush this one a bit but next time im starting earlier and trying much harder

[tired vapor]

also me? al-soem? ????

[tired vapor]

ppl like big, ppl like shaped

[gloomy whale]

Spelling mistake, my bad. Changed a word. Thanks for correcting.

[lusty ruin]

some things people liked about it ill keep in mind like i got alot of compliments on the antlers

and the paint people liked but most said it was too simple

[tired vapor]

most ppl do too complex from what i see

or too chaotic

[gloomy whale]

It is ok, your ship is uniqe and great.

[lusty ruin]

yeah but you still need alot going on

[lusty ruin]

thank you, I am pretty proud of it I love the paintjob i did but now i also understand the kind of thing people will look for more

ill try and do that next time but keep the uniqueness, I just dont like my ship looking too much like a normal ship

next time i think im gonna do a bug theme

or buglike features atleast

[gloomy whale]

It is a task to put organic shapes into cosmoteer ships, especially considering the game generally encourage straight long supply lines which make swissts really hard.

You did well trying already.

[lusty ruin]

yeah I like that style though so I end up doing it in alot of my ships

i never make my ships normal shapes lol

[tired vapor]

could u post ur ship? searching in discord forums is bad

[lusty ruin]

thanks I feel like i did good enough for my first contest and i only have about 250-ish hours ( I have like 350 on steam but i leave it open all the time)

[lusty ruin]

sure 1 sec

[gloomy whale]

That is great, you should try keep the ideology. It is always great to find some poem.

[tired vapor]

structure

[lusty ruin]

love the tree's on this one

[tired vapor]

structure v questionable

paint looks drawn on ig

has potential

[lusty ruin]

I was actually working on an alternate paint job with pink cherry blossoms with brown branches and not roses and green vines

[gloomy whale]

IC-bs-sd 肇
肇 is for "Cause" of things.

[lusty ruin]

looks like a biblically accurate angel

pretty nice though

[tired vapor]

is still kinda flat i feel

tb looks odd as well

like there is depth but is not super apparent

[gloomy whale]

Was a solar diver made before reasorce collectors were luanched so forgive some of the remain of an old time.

[gloomy whale]

As it is really large, its shape is broked a little yes, though still accept able for me.

[tired vapor]

i mean how there is a level cutting through it

it's like the crunchy rock

1 sec

it's like seeing this from a bird's eye view

but then there is a mystery thing just floating above it

[gloomy whale]

Yeah I got it. Happens.

[gloomy whale]

CCC players celebrating the good mark we got in the contest by mysteriously repeating a rhythm.

[tribal heath]

Meh 💀

It seems nothing changed about phase 1 from April DC. Do you want a tie-break? (poor 0neye)

[tight tapir]

Amen

Afar they look better but up close it makes no sense

[lament skiff]

5

[flint basin]

5

stay strong brother 🤝

[late zenith]

tragedy, I was 1 short on one of my ships

[small elm]

Woo, 2. Thank you to those people! 😍

There's some design enteries that I'm really surprised got such a low vote count, or even none at all! 😬 Tough crowd.

[oak plaza]

October Design Contest Community Vote Participants...

Nice...

[lusty ruin]

only 4 votes ouch

[gloomy whale]

I just found out Rosehip by votes in total is the most voted player, can this won any honor?

(I should really try convince Rosehip to be here herself as well, she is really a nice guy and you will all love her work)

[slow axle]

oh phew i feel relieved
7 votes is decent i'm at tie with such great ships

atleast i know what to do next time 😓 no more risky bets

[slow axle]

agreed roseship deserved that one

[toxic ocean]

Why did you ping me 3 times in a row .-.

[toxic ocean]

Nah thanks take your win lol.

[tribal heath]

Ok

[open stag]

Only 5, unsurprising

[tribal heath]

Current voting system is still problematic

[small breach]

honestly i think allowing people to have 10 votes (assuming 10 ships can win) and ingame voting would be a significant improvement

[toxic ocean]

It was very surprising to me, you deserved top 10 at least.

The shape of that thing and paint are amazing.

[small breach]

wait it has 5???

[toxic ocean]

It would significantly detract from the value of an individual vote.

[small breach]

i thought it had 8

[small breach]

but would allow for more ships to get votes

[toxic ocean]

(That was the issue with the April design contest and why immtrm rage quit)

[small breach]

maybe allowing 6-8 votes would be better

[slow axle]

i voted for you ><

honestly it's such a great build it's surprising it havent got voted

[tired vapor]

no

then it becomes a shitfest for the top 20-30

[oak plaza]

For me the voting system is alright right now...
If there are more than 3 ships per individual submission there should be top 3 person submission votes and then top 5-6 individual ship vote...

As per the design of the current that only needed the 10 ships, it's good to have just 5 votes as it will pack the competition to see who really deserved the win...

[small breach]

author voting instead of individual ship voting might work, like you vote to a person rather than a ship, when they win all of their ships get added

might be bad for contests with 1-2 ship limit but would work for 3+

[tired vapor]

vote by elimination

shitfest at the bottom does not matter as most get few votes anyways

less and less votes per voter as more ships are eliminated

[toxic ocean]

''Cosmoteer official october 2023 aesthetic tournament bo3 double elimination''

[gloomy whale]

......You may tell yourself that is because you made nice chats and won reponse with them.

[toxic ocean]

I guess but the ping is off button exists. Just ping people once and then turn it off alright?

[gloomy whale]

Maybe a habbite issue? Cause in the social media I am used to people considering ping repeat a very normal thing and have no need to be aware of, as evey "reply" is, any way, to you.

[hollow python]

2 for Isotope and 0 for Nucleonaut, Yeesh

[toxic ocean]

Yeah I was saddened by those results too 😔

Didn't vote because I figured you'd at least one in the top 10, sorry 🥹

[hollow python]

I’m glad the good ones won and you got second place

[tribal heath]

@small breach Honestly, I absolutely don't understand logic of "I will not vote for him, because he will win anyway". With such position "he" probably not win at all, because 1 or 2 votes can be determinative with current voting system.

[small breach]

i had limited votes and i got strategic with them

i can only vote 5 ships so abandoning clear winners is a good strategy to vote for the more undervoted ships that deserve to win

[tribal heath]

"Clear winners" is subjective and relative thing...

[small breach]

it is

being like that isn't a good strategy that everyone should follow, just something that could squeeze out an extra vote or 2

[toxic ocean]

To be extremely sincere, it is all but a facade just to not make the creator of those ships (Whom maybe I also wanted to vote for but couldn't) feel better and more recognised for their works. There were more underrated yet amazing pics to me than Error's, and just felt like one of them would at least get into the top 10, or at least that was the comforting lie I told myself.

Was this confession what you wanted?

[tired vapor]

better than lying imo

[tight tapir]

Well I did not vote for Immtrm because I knew they would win, is that justified?

[lament skiff]

I just voted for the ones I liked the most

[oak plaza]

Don't forget that Walt still has his picks...

[mossy spire]

Hey Redoutable got 6 votes! I'm super stoked, thanks whomever you were!

Def my favorite ship I've designed so far

[small breach]

i voted for redoutable, it was really good, definitely could have improvements in the paint but overall it's really good

[flint abyss]

i only have 1 votes on each of my ships. but i can't even feel bad, cause i want the toher good ships to win

[flint abyss]

no ?
but you are allowed to vote for one that you think is an underdog.

[tight tapir]

Yeah

[toxic ocean]

That's exactly what I did.

[flint abyss]

then express it the right way. not "i thought A would win, hence i didn't vote for A", but "i preferred to vote for B, i wanted B to win"

especially if A didn't get many votes

[small breach]

same thing honestly

[flint abyss]

the way you express it is very important

[small breach]

result and intentions are the same though

[flint abyss]

well, the first one is just adding salt to injury.

[mossy spire]

I'm always open to feedback!

(though I have updated it already a bit lol)

[small breach]

the updated version is a huge improvement

[mossy spire]

The like aft center area I don't particularly love, right behind the nukes

[toxic ocean]

Both look cool.

[lament skiff]

when next dc 👉👈

[toxic ocean]

Plz next dc tomorrow I want mustard of dezign fr edition ||satire||

[flint abyss]

french ?

[toxic ocean]

for real

[flint abyss]

french

[small breach]

french basically

[toxic ocean]

Ew imagine mustard of design french edition
insert that meme with a buff guy holding a baguette and with curly mustache and berret

[lusty ruin]

this is all i could think of reading this

(canadian brand)

[small breach]

"french's"
is canadian

[toxic ocean]

Mustard of canada.

[median patio]

the tension waiting for architects picks is so high

could be any moment now

[toxic ocean]

Yeaaaah

I wonder how's the architect congress's decisions are going...

[lament skiff]

me waiting for waltuh

[slow axle]

dunno what i was exepcting

@deft kayak congrats!!!! you've made it <3

[deft kayak]

brooooooo

I....did not expect that

There were definitely better ships than that one

But hey if Walt's pick is consistently the only way my ships win, I'll take it

[oak plaza]

Sad that there is only 1 Walt's Pick...
Sometimes it's 2 or even 4...

[deft kayak]

Yeah I'm surprised

Especially since there were so many good ships

Nuklearni for example

Ceraziel, Fixxioda, and Jewjuice each had great submissions too

[median patio]

Congratulations @deft kayak

[lament skiff]

Mission failed

I’m already working on my next dc submission

https://tenor.com/view/ironman-tony-stark-forge-gif-10677756

[flint basin]

yes build in a cave with a box of scraps thatll make a good spaceship

[late zenith]

I already have 2 ships qeued up for a future design contest

[lament skiff]

How do you think fringe makes their ships

[deft kayak]

honestly concrete's ship is probably much better than mine from a combat perspective lol

[lament skiff]

Well the design contest is mostly aesthetic although the prompt is to make a ‘cosmoteer’ ship which is supposed to be a challenge, so I tried to make something at least on par with an imp ship

[deft kayak]

yeah

mine sucks in combat, i tried to make something good but failed and didn't have time to start a new thing from scratch

[lament skiff]

I remember how it looks but i never actually tested anybody else’s ships

[deft kayak]

that ship is barely up to my own standards, both aesthetically and functionally, which is why i'm not sure how to feel about walt's pick lol

[lament skiff]

Yeah that’s why I’m not miffed about E134 losing

[deft kayak]

this was sooo out of the blue lol

i can list like 8 ships that i thought would have gotten walt's pick before mine

[lament skiff]

I did like your ships but same lol

I’m pretty surprised Nuklearni didn’t win or get picked tbh

[deft kayak]

same

i voted for it

[past bramble]

I wonder

When will architect vole result be released

[oak plaza]

I'm still waiting for the last DC so I don't think it will any time soon...

[small breach]

same, i'm going to make a fracture clone for the next one

[past bramble]

i think we can safely say its all rejected

[lament skiff]

[toxic ocean]

GGGG

There were a lot more amazing picks walt should've also chosen but I felt like chainbound was one of the most lacking from the overall top 10.

[oak plaza]

No it's not, they just have a lot of ships in the list...

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[toxic ocean]

Even Shattered Anvil? That's like my best fringe build!

[slow axle]

door havent voted at all lmao

[lament skiff]

lol

Wonder why omnipresence didn’t get any votes

[slow axle]

atleast the majority got in
congrats everyone!!!

[wispy vigil]

Hmmm

[slow axle]

too similar to cabal ig
architects comment are visible if you hover your mouse on their vote

[lament skiff]

I’m on mobile

[toxic ocean]

Saris didn't vote for me ;-;

I wonder what he didn't like about it (other than my attitude of course, but that's not the ship's fault!)

I would ask him but... Yeah he kinda did the setting out for milk thing so not like I can.

[ionic jay]

Can't you see the comments?

[toxic ocean]

Nevermind, he left a note, I see now, that clears a lot.

[small elm]

Do architechts have unlmited votes?

and does it require all 5 to get in?

[toxic ocean]

Pretty much.

I suppose the main issue that arose with Superconductor is ''great but a bit liney/messy.''

That is fair, I admit I got a little carried away with all the electricity references.

[rose swan]

A simple majority is enough, so ships only need 3 for approval.

[small elm]

right

[toxic ocean]

Welp, at least I got 3/5 of the votes... Thanks for the peeps who did vote ^v^

Also does the red mean it passed or it didn't?

[small breach]

passed

[rose swan]

Red means passed, and Door hasn't voted yet so you're actually at 3/4 right now.

[toxic ocean]

Oh, I thought his all framiness himself just didn't vote for anything and refused to elaborate further like the gigachad he is

[tired vapor]

why not check for pass?

[rose swan]

Red is the placeholder for "this passed, remember to check the box".

[toxic ocean]

@rose swan Actually you made a pretty good point there, I got a bit carried away with the lighting because I had some monny leftover for it. The ones near launchers are supposed to be like ''guidelights'' for them to launch.

[rose swan]

The color is filled in automatically when it gets enough votes, but the check is manual.

[toxic ocean]

Also about structure, all of it has a point. Thingies jutting out at the end of coils are Electrodes for the electricity to redirect off of (Of course these aren't real coils, but they're for the theming) and other ones are just metal gridways for electricity to flow in and out of. Front one is just a bumper.

---

Also could you give feedback on what I could improve? 🥺

[deft kayak]

just looked through all the comments, lots of good points on all the ships

i don't think i'll try redoing my ship though tbh

[tired vapor]

? =countif>2

*=countif(range here)>2

[rose swan]

By "clean up" I don't mean the structure should be removed, but standardized more in line width/direction/pieces used. My feedback would be tweaking that and removing some lights.

Mind, anything under the named columns is just the architects' opinions and you're free to ignore it if your ship got approved. The things listed in the "issues" column should get fixed, though.

[deft kayak]

i have a question about updated ships from classic design contests, are there any plans to add them to the game?

there are at least 3 in https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1081651425999863949

not upset if they aren't, but they've been floating around there for awhile

They're Kine's Bullwark/Kheper, Meekoz's Fenrir, Nick/Fusion/Verizon's Evermourne, and my Ozymandias

[rose swan]

I think the plan was to add a folder for them and decide on a case-by-case basis if they'd be a good fit for career.

[deft kayak]

alright, just making sure they weren't forgotten :)

[median patio]

Aww mine didn't get in
Understandable seeing its issues

Could I get some feedback paintwise?

[tired vapor]

if ur ships r bad for combat/optimization problems, i can help

*if i have time

[toxic ocean]

^^
He just wants his name in the credits of every single DC without actually putting time and effort into making a fledged out DC submission, please note this fact before shaking his hand (That probably has the blue Bill Cipher flames).

[open stag]

Sounds like a win-win to me

[flint basin]

better ship > shared credit

[tired vapor]

i don't feel like playing comp or painting, so not much other stuff i can do

and optimizing is fun

!!fun!!

[oak plaza]

Does anyone have a screenshot of all the feedback...?
I can't see it myself...

Phone is shit...

[tired vapor]

for ur ships?

[oak plaza]

Thanks Man...

Well I will rehaul both then...
But that's a job for next time...

As much I have to make my college visual aid in cosmoteer then I will rework the DC ships...

[toxic ocean]

Immtrm and Avo got the honor of all architects' votes so far, just like how I expected.

Speaking of The 4th place winner, @tight tapir I think I excuse the name Pandemonium because it's one of my favorite NG songs. https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/937732

Meltdown was still Objectively better and because you gave up on it I'm gonna steal it for my own ship c:<.

[tribal heath]

https://tenor.com/view/ko-gif-19190568

[tight tapir]

Lol thanks for forgiving me

[tight tapir]

Updated Pandaemonium with lots of help from Air with optimization

Hope an architect sees this

I also put it in the ship edits thread

Now with more firepower!

[tired vapor]

more dakka

[tight tapir]

^

[rose swan]

Looking great! Just a couple things:

• There's no airlock access for the main body of the ship. Right now players wouldn't be able to load it in career if they wanted to use it.
• Would you be willing to fit some reverse thrust in? Say, a large thruster on both sides next the outer ions. No worries if not, but it seriously breaks AI pathing and makes it more likely your ship will get stuck on stations and asteroids.
• Is the center corridor only there for weight reduction? It's only increasing your speed by ~2m/s, and I think it'd look better to fill that out with armor instead.

[tired vapor]

1. i thought i did that
2. i forgot to send updated file probably
3. in practice the armor is not really used

[rose swan]

3. is more of an aesthetic gripe, quite a few built-ins use corridor like that to fit a budget/reduce weight but in general I think it's best to avoid when possible.

You've got the space anyway and plenty of budget left, so adding more mags to the chainguns is an option too. Up to you and Avokado, though.

[oak plaza]

Can I ask, My shadows are good enough or do I need to rework it too...?
Im thinking of sticking with the shapes...

[tight tapir]

Will do, I will consider it

[median patio]

Looks good except for the lefts ones top middle that looks a but weird

Maybe indent it in a little?

[oak plaza]

I'll work on it after MISSUS...

[tight tapir]

Try using more than just shadows, with some solid blocks of a dark color too

[wispy vigil]

those don't look like shadows to me

[small breach]

i'd say rework the front and sides only

[oak plaza]

The current rework is on the ships channel...
Will continue on it tomorrow...

I just wish the architects would like it...

[tight tapir]

Updated once more @rose swan, should have fixed all the problems stated

I have left the corridor there because I like the shape and don't want unnecessary armor

[toxic ocean]

Would it be visually better though?

[small breach]

maybe

there is a certain beauty in optimisation

[toxic ocean]

The "certain beauty" that I'm sure the players meeting this ship couldn't care to admire.

[small breach]

at that point nothing matters

just aesthetics

who cares if it's a ship held by hopes and dreams, it looks cool

[tired vapor]

at least they won't complain it's too weak ;)

and if you say so, i can do purely crew optimization

[lusty ruin]

Bruh my ship wasn’t even an option in architect voting

@ionic jay is not everyone added?

[tired vapor]

did you win?

where's you

[lusty ruin]

No I wasn’t even added to the voting list

[tired vapor]

oh

[lusty ruin]

I thought everyone was added to architect voting

[tired vapor]

what was your ship called?

[lusty ruin]

Natures wrath

[tired vapor]

architects only vote on winners since those are the only ones in game

[lusty ruin]

Yeah I thought even those who lost would still be put in architect voting for a final chance?

[lusty ruin]

Or is that just Walt’s vote

[tired vapor]

only walt can save a ship that the voters didn't choose

architect voting rn is just to see if winners are good enough for career

[lusty ruin]

Ah okay

[tired vapor]

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1081651425999863949

[ruby imp]

Oh, thank you! I haven't see this chat at all

[toxic ocean]

I love how little the grey accents and main orange colors clash with each other on Pandemonium, they are very separated and occupy different areas of all being the same. Also the shapes are very simple yet clean. I am more of a complexity enthusiast when it comes to my paint because I think it offers a lot more variety, but a few and far between ships like this are great.

(I've already sung my praises to this ship but I felt like saying a paint opinion)

[tired vapor]

and also it works ok in pvp ;)

[small breach]

air optimise this mess of a ship

[tired vapor]

looks not that bad from the outside

[small breach]

wait until you look at the inside

[tight tapir]

That's very high praise, it means a lot to me

I try to simplify painting as much as possible and rely on the shape of the ship itself

But I feel like most people like smaller more random details that look good from afar

Again, it means a lot to me that you can see and appreciate my painting style ❤️

[wispy vigil]

I also prefer more classic style paints

[oak plaza]

I cant send the other ship in the edit thread for a whole hour...?
Bruh I have 2 ships to pass...
hahahahahaha

[past bramble]

well updated some of the problems on this ship

question is how should i add in reverse thrust

[slow axle]

delete missiles ?

well that would probably still be unbalanced

[small breach]

every time i look at this i think it's called the flying dutchman but nope, it's man'o'war

[toxic ocean]

Should I update some issues on superconductor? There aren't any notable ones but some lighting could be fixed up.

[oak plaza]

Is there any news for the rework...?
I don't actually know if the architects did see my rework on Mister and Missus...

[strange mango]

unfortunatly i dont know either, comunication between me and the architects is lacking, to say the least

[oak plaza]

Well I guess I still just need to wait...

[toxic ocean]

Yeah let's wait it out, the high council will answer eventually... Right?

[ionic jay]

Updated the sheet

[past bramble]

is door just abstaining

[oak plaza]

Thanks For The Update, will wait with the Architects' judgement on the rework...

[oak plaza]

Here is me praying that the architects vote of my ship to be in career...

||Thank You Vilda...||

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-26344462

[tired vapor]

*future career

[oak plaza]

Did some of the architects changed their notes about my ships...?

My phone doesn't show them, only the check marks...

[oak plaza]

@tribal heath, phenomenal work on Echo of the Abyss...
Im still sad the Redline family isnt in game...

you absolutely nailed it there...

[tribal heath]

😉

[oak plaza]

I guess my ships are just fated to not be in career...
Still no change till now... 😔

[toxic ocean]

Stop being dramatic about it, you should be glad they made it in the top 10. Always think about the positives 😉

[past bramble]

Door still has not voted

or he dont like all of them lol

[desert trail]

or his door is stuck

and he cant get out of his house

[toxic ocean]

Honestly such a chad.

[oak plaza]

@ionic jay, here it is...

[toxic ocean]

How many times should you ping the archs to make 20 trillion tiny changes to your ships.

[oak plaza]

Oneye said to post it...
They certainly asked for it...

[toxic ocean]

3 out of My 4 November January 2023 DC winners (Rotten Core coming soon™️ or more specifically in 2054). Are they eligible to be a set of proud members of the built-in ships lineup now? At least one of them?

Also a Before VS After pic ^^

Oh speaking of which... @ionic jay potentially when will the finalized answer of the architects be released and when will we get another Design Contest? [Sorry for bothering by the way]

[Maybe tell me if my ships are good or not? 🥺]

[late zenith]

I liked the before paint for the two smaller ships

[tired vapor]

looks a lot less messy

[late zenith]

definitely

[ionic jay]

Architect voting is an ongoing process. I suppose you could consider it "finalized" when the approved ships get added to career mode, but even then ship updates could lead an architect to vote different and the ship to be added later.

I can't really give any definitive answers about the next design contest at the moment, except that I will most likely not be hosting it.

As for your ships, i think they're a major improvement 👍

[oak plaza]

I wish my ships did have improvements...

https://tenor.com/view/mengsedih-gif-23325538

[wispy vigil]

mine do not improve either

[simple valve]

#ships message might try to use this one that I couldn't finish for the last tournament but since this one's theme is unconventional paint and not design I might make something else

[lament skiff]

I feel like unconventional paint and design would go hand in hand

[desert trail]

honistly im prity sure that your ships are some of the best ones

[past bramble]

Hmm

Next gen parasites?

[desert trail]

that probibly will actualy work

[oak plaza]

Thanks Man, well I will try to improve upon it...

[oak plaza]

Red Flesh Base Paint, Silver and Grey 1st and 2nd Layer, Black Shadows for 3rd Layer...

You already made parasites, now they used technology...

[oak plaza]

@rose swan, sorry for the ping but can I ask something for the 2024 design contest?

I wanted to make a gimmick ship that seperates when a certain part is hit
It would be like this but not using detonation charges and certainly not a DC Meta

But does the splitter concept be applicable?

[rose swan]

That's allowed. I think Polar submitted something like that back in classic, though it didn't win.

[oak plaza]

Damn, well I will try and make my 2 Mill like that...

it will have a rail center that when destoryed will split the two...

[past bramble]

Huh im suprised considering ai cant use charges

Is mining laser ok too now?

[oak plaza]

Well in this setup the AI doesnt really use the charges, its like a landmine that when the ship is triggered will change to phase two...

[rose swan]

I'd say it depends on how it's done. IIRC Polar's ship was based around a central ion core. When the prisms blew the ship split apart into several flankers.

If you're straight-up using explosive charges the design will probably get turned down.

[oak plaza]

Damn, now I wanna see that ship...

[rose swan]

It's somewhere on the forums if you want to dig through there.

[oak plaza]

No I will not, as said previously, its a rail center that is fragile, when its destroyed the ship will split in two...

[oak plaza]

Aight, thanks...

[small breach]

first prototype

fixed to be exactly 600k

gonna scrap it since it's ugly and too fragile

[small breach]

proto-2, railnuk wal

didn't work, too weak and slow

[slow axle]

that so perfect!! rules are clear and simple, theme is fabulous and the whole look very polished

[small breach]

this tournament feels alot more organised than the one before it imo

[slow axle]

more so polished than organised

[small breach]

polish makes it feel more organised to me

[slow axle]

it just included all rules from the previous contests, cleared misconception (especially on the guidelines) and adapted to frequantly asked questions such as collaborative works & yugi proxy shenanigans

[small breach]

anyways, proto-3, this one is looking promising

broadside nuker

yeaht this works

i'll go with it for the second bracket

first bracket not second

progress

[oak plaza]

My Ship do be looking good...

[oak plaza]

Reverse Thrust Brother, you will be disqualified to the architect voting phase without it

[small breach]

i'll manage

reverse

[oak plaza]

HAHAHAHAHA, well that is reverse...

[small breach]

i'm tempted to put the torvak flag on the armor

[oak plaza]

Can Fight 2Mil+ ships 50% of the time...

[oak plaza]

Even In Death I Serve The Omnissiah

[small breach]

lmao

[small breach]

done

mior fix

think i'm going to keep for another ship, it just doesn't look good mostly

actually nvm it does look better on a brighter background from afar

i'm keeping it

[tribal heath]

Should I join or give other a chance, lol

[small breach]

TORVAK

[small breach]

i'd say join

[oak plaza]

If you didnt Specify that it is Torvak, I would have thought Sans...

My Current Design Contest Ships...
Need some paint tomorrow...

[simple valve]

do we think that a style like this is unique enough / unconventional in some way?

[tribal heath]

I think it fits

[toxic ocean]

Last time people asked for explosive charges on their ships (Like me) Blake said a hard no.

[toxic ocean]

This looks coo.

Circuitboard ship, we could be best buds!

Also why is this chat active, are we getting a new DC?!

[simple valve]

Yep, the new deck cannon has three barrels #events message

[toxic ocean]

BLOODY WHAT-

Why was there not a tournament announcement @rose swan?

[toxic ocean]

Ooooh I wanted to make a skull-themed ship too, I guess that's not an original concept anymore 😔

WELP the fact that we have 2 (More actually) different ''divisions'' is excellent, I had 2 great ideas for ships but didn't know how to combine them.

[toxic ocean]

What exactly do you mean by 3 barelled deck cannons..?

[simple valve]

You asked if we're getting a new DC

[toxic ocean]

Aaaaa

Sneaky

[raven isle]

aww, would have been fun if explosive charges counted as "negative cash"

then you have low tier big ships which look intimidating but can be easily blown up

[toxic ocean]

Lol, that reminds me of that Steamlands (Old Nitrome Flashgame) level where you meet a gigantic tank machine thingy a few times larger than you that you can destroy by hitting its VERY EXPOSED reactor that chains to the command module.

[raven isle]

we should have more silly ships like that

like backup

[toxic ocean]

Yeah backup is pinnacle of ship design, I agree.

All for now is one of my favorite ships in the game, such a fun encounter...

Same with Eviscerator Reborn.

Fringe has a lot of kickass ships.

[past bramble]

hmm so we can submit 3 ships in total if we do all 3 price bracket

[late zenith]

wait is there another design contest up already or is this for the build and battle tourney

[past bramble]

new design contest

hmm parasite v2 for lowest, new paint idea for med, and my usual stuff for big

well thats if i have motivation

[late zenith]

are they using the same rules as last time, and if not can someone point me to the new ruleset

[past bramble]

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/339897464385699843

[toxic ocean]

Just like in the good old days ^-^

[toxic ocean]

Getting a bit too cocky aren't ya. You might get second place by a single vote and rage quit again 😉

[tribal heath]

Let's check it 😏

[toxic ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

Willing to accept another duel.

If we can call it that.

Because this time I'm going to make something I feel even more passion about than electricity...

AND THAT'S CLOCK TOWERS

[tribal heath]

DvD, Design versus Design, lol

[toxic ocean]

Oh yeah.

[toxic ocean]

I have... Lost the ability to make 500K ships.

Well, the dishwasher ain't gonna be seeing the light of day anytime soon.

.....I hate this price range, I have to dispose of such a promising ship because of it.

Why couldn't've it been 600K 😔

[tribal heath]

Sometimes we need to do sacrifices

[desert trail]

i acsedently built a ship that does that when the ion core is destroyed,

huh, it actualy looks alot better then what my semi spleep deprived brain thought at like 12pm or something...

[toxic ocean]

It looks amazing.

[rose swan]

It's in #events. Seemed redundant to post the announcement twice.

[toxic ocean]

I mean the more people see it the merrier, plus it has always been posted in #tournament-announcements and barely anybody checks #events anyways.

I probably woulnd't've known if I didn't check the design contest chat and even then I had to ask, that's how underseen events is.

[desert trail]

got my ship for the teair 1 thingie, (the 90,001k to 500,000k bracket i think)

without ammo its exatyl 500,000k

now i just need to paint it..

[toxic ocean]

Good luck.

Is the dishwasher full?
Yes, yes it is.

[flint basin]

no, no it isnt

[toxic ocean]

Why >:c

[desert trail]

i haves a name you culd use for a ship perhaps

spoon bender

[toxic ocean]

Nah, I already have my epic trilogy planned.

That is epic though.

Dish, Fire, Time, Spoon. Long ago the four nations lived together in harmony, everything changed when the fire nation attacked. Only Walt, the ma- gets shot

[desert trail]

better lines, Long ago the four nations lived together in harmony, everything changed when the nation attacked

[toxic ocean]

That isn't amongst the 4 nations...

It's the secret bonus unlockable 5th nation.

[desert trail]

https://tenor.com/view/4chan-fus-roh-dah-bus-gif-3440242

this is the coseist i culd find to a suprise bus attack gif

[simple valve]

MAD gif

[slow axle]

hmm i wonder if i have time this month to create serval unique hull
i might use some of my older submission (well knowing none of them won 🤭)

[desert trail]

i wonder if hiting myself in the head with a bible improved my painting skills...

i forthg lights

[quasi thistle]

That's a great way to put flak and make it look good!

[small elm]

hmmm, where have I seen that interleaved wing design before?

[inner stag]

are we able to upload ships this early?

[small elm]

<< dedin't even know there was a contest

[inner stag]

look in #announcements

[rose swan]

Yes! You may submit ships from now until the deadline.

[inner stag]

sick, ty

[small elm]

welp, gonna have to build another ship from the ground up for it then. bleh.

[late zenith]

was going to submit one today but after reading the rules I'm just going to fast drop 2-3 ships once I have them all ready

tragically, I cannot submit the Paintscraper again because it's 16k underbudget of even the cheapest division and I don't want to mess with it

[wispy vigil]

There's a design contest going on?

Where's the #tournament-announcements announcement

[raven isle]

Where

And by that I mean there’s 2 design contest submissions and both are old

[rose swan]

The one with the most recent posts.

[gloomy whale]

The first CCC submission by proxy have arrived!
The author is player LunchTunny, a nice painter in CCC. The player is soon joining Discord if everything goes as expected......But I am still asked to help with submission.

[strange mango]

this happened because the original thread got locked somehow, and i didnt have the perms to unlock it, nor could i get a moderator to unlock it in time for a contest i was hosting, so i just made a new one, i should probably rename the unused one if i can, one moment

[desert trail]

soooo wear do we put the submissions?

[open stag]

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1059085469708734515

@desert trail

[desert trail]

thanks

[desert trail]

finished submitinh mine

[toxic ocean]

2/3 complete, might actually redesign some parts of the new ship (Blast Furnace), but Dishwasher is rock solid.

[wispy vigil]

Nice

Although, the deadline is in February, you can slow down a bit

[toxic ocean]

Oh true lmao.

Every time I didn't slow down I had to torture myself in the last three hours of the contest though, so I think it's a bit expectable that I've over-learnt from my mistakes.

[gloomy whale]

Nice work. Unlike me: I conculated my schedule and realize I might be having little time this month so I simply renewed some old ships to throw them on stage. Probably I will refite them some few more time before eventually setall this but not really much more attention I will pay I think.

[oak plaza]

That's good...
Hahahahaha

[median patio]

resources arent accounted for right?

like the price of them

[oak plaza]

Yea, but I generally just don't mind those...
I hate doing the math...

[lament skiff]

don’t need to do the math, you can just spawn your ship in without resources

hold ~ while placing it

Then check price

[oak plaza]

Would these colors look good...?

[toxic ocean]

Not a bad combo.

[oak plaza]

Just look brother...

[toxic ocean]

You know what, this is the best ship you've painted.

It's generic imperium with a refreshing color scheme that fixes some of its jank.

Still noisy in places but solid.

[oak plaza]

Thanks Brother...

It still has no name...

I already have one name for the 500K which is Express Delivery...

For the 2Mil it might be Double Trouble...

[toxic ocean]

You know there are too many ships named double trouble, and that was already the gimmick/catchphrase of your previous ships, so maybe try a different name.

Something along the lines of splitting catastrophe..? Not sure myself lol.

[oak plaza]

Thats a tagline for Mister and Missus yea...
but I havent really seen a ship named as such...
I think Ill just name it Broken Wing...

Because when it crumbles, it flies with one broken side, which looks like a wing...

[toxic ocean]

Oh it's the name of this iconic multi-core spinner.

Oh brokenwing isn't bad.

[oak plaza]

God Damn...

Ill stick for Broken Wing then...

Btw @toxic ocean, any thoughts on naming this "Rebel Scum" after this guy...?
its a different hue but the colors do feel closer to home...

[toxic ocean]

I don't see the similarities, sorry.

[oak plaza]

Its all good...
hahahaha

Im still thinking of what to name it then...

Im debating on either naming it Knocker or Kinetic...
Which would fit more...?

[toxic ocean]

Also I can't believe how close this and Yharon's remake are.

It looks impeccable.

[tribal heath]

My suggestion: Cold Burn, name based on cold white and hot orange.

[oak plaza]

Knocker or Knock-Out

• Hits You Hard With A Barrage Of Atomic Punches

Kinetic

• For Every Action, There Is An Equal And Opposite Reaction.

[oak plaza]

Hmmm, that would fit nicely...
I would just have these as quotes then...

[tribal heath]

Knock-Out feels good

[oak plaza]

Ill be sticking with that then...
Ill make some lore now...

[toxic ocean]

Nock em out!!1!

[small breach]

ship idea : Rankine 413, cold themed ship with red accent on top, main focus is speed and nukes

rankine instead of kelvin because it sounds cooler

[toxic ocean]

Kine already has a ship named Rankine

[past bramble]

I use that to designate my pvp ion cruisers

Although i change it to the symbol now (°R)

[small breach]

but consider the following it's not ingame therefore it's a valid name to choose

[past bramble]

Using things to designate archetype makes searching them easier as similar ships will be bunch up together in the library list

[small breach]

i've got a week or two to make and paint 2 ships, mid year exams gonna come soon

thankfully i always was prepared

i have like 3 partially painted candidates ready

[desert trail]

you culd name it clawfish or lobster

[oak plaza]

It already has a name, Knock-Out...

[desert trail]

ah oke

althogh....

with the combo of knock out and lobster.....

whats that shrimp aggen that can brake glass?

i thouhgt it was the pistol shrimp, but acording to google its the mantis shrimp

oohooho, tiger pistol shrimp!?

[oak plaza]

It already has lore and everything brother...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314115775319506955/1192778840959877130/02_Design_Contest.ship.png?ex=65aa50dc&is=6597dbdc&hm=85d4c97de6992f89dd0b9e7c9e4f6388caefc426affdf657ee3fd66892d3921a&

[small breach]

make that 10

[oak plaza]

Nah that's cheating, you didn't build it for the Design Contest, it was on your stock...

[small breach]

i did though

[oak plaza]

Then send all 10 then...

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[small breach]

3 partially painted ones, rest are all either failed protos or potential canidates

worst part is there is technically like 10 more if i stop being lazy and remake older ships

[oak plaza]

Bro, focus on your ship fully...
Don't produce more than you need...

[small breach]

i can make like 3 protos every 30mins

[desert trail]

numbers 6, 8 and i supose 9 look the best

[small breach]

this is promising

[desert trail]

number 8 is cool

[small breach]

it was intended to be the submission for 750k category but i'll go with 6

[small breach]

torvak

[small breach]

update

[tired vapor]

it looks not full

like it doesn't fit together

imo

[small breach]

armor clashes with the interior?

it looks pretty good for me aside from the front plate which i may end up just scrapping and reworking fully

removing the skull that makes it torvak

[tired vapor]

everything clashes w/ everything :(

[toxic ocean]

Why does the skull boy look this noisy now ;-;

[small breach]

no longer skul

skull going to be another version

on a bigger ship because there just isn't enough space here

ig submission 1 done

time for the rest of them

[small breach]

hmmm

[oak plaza]

I Love the single DC at the middle that would really help you in battle...

Hahahahahaha

[small breach]

it was just a cost filler, i had extra money

the ship was supposed to be 1mil

[oak plaza]

Well I guess and suppose that's alright, you had money to spare...

[small breach]

gonna scrap it anyway though

[oak plaza]

I'm telling you, focus on one build...
You will not get anything finished if you keep this up...

[small breach]

i'm trying i just came in here with 3 ships required and 0 ideas

previously i got a cg array idea and a weird alien ship idea and made them as submissions, now i've got nothing

[desert trail]

make an diagonal ship with 2chainguns, 2emps, 2deck cannons and 4-8 point defence

[oak plaza]

Well take it easy, have a ship you are proud in...
And put more effort to it than splitting your effort man...

[small breach]

at this point i put almost no effort in building but when something looks good i put the effort in

[oak plaza]

I'm happy on how my 3 ships turned out and I'm fairly proud and happy on how Knock-Out turned out to be...

[oak plaza]

Just stick to one weapon, which ship orientation whether diags or horizs, and then theme...

The only ship I had problems thinking of in this DC is Knock-Out as I didn't have a name or story to it, but was proud of the outcome...

Broken Wing and Express Delivery will be gimmick and funny ship...

[late zenith]

Have any of you figured out how the orbiter ai works? I'm working on one for 2nd division and it actively refuses to do a full orbit

best I got so far is a quarter orbit

[oak plaza]

I still have problems on how my ship orbits, it stops in the middle of orbiting and that's why I abandoned my 1Mil Ship and made Knock-Out...

If you wanna be lazy about it, paste the attack pattern of one of the built-ins on your ship and see if it works...

[late zenith]

wait you can copy paste it, I gotta try that

I'll probably use either Gavel AI or Kine's Man O War AI

[oak plaza]

Make the built-in ship, make so, then replace it with your ship and set the attack pattern to not apply on the current ship and voila...

[desert trail]

i literaly just do that

[small elm]

I've got no ideas for a ship lol

[desert trail]

try..... makeing something that looks like...... the ebon hawk from star wars!

or perhaps a ship that looks like the leters 'H' and 'W' combined

a flying brick is also a clasic

hemhmem what other bad ideas can i give.....

fish?

tesla syber truck?

candy cane shaped mine orbiter?

[small elm]

😒

[lament maple]

Hey, I would like to try and submit something this contest but I’m not entirely confident in my skills in making something design worthy, would anyone like to help me in 4 hours or so? Already got some designs made, just don’t really know where to go from there.

[desert trail]

ah, i'd help but i submited ships already witch means i cant help

the good news is that i can offer advice, but other than that...

[lament maple]

Perfectly fine either way, I just kinda got burned out last design contest and never really got something I was fine submitting.

So anything to keep me in focus is appreciated.

[lament maple]

So what i currently have is a ship hull I quite like, but I'm kinda at a standstill with the paint. I'm trying to make it look like power is thrumming through the ship, all liable to change of course, and I'm not sure if its able to do that.

Some other hulls I'm considering are these three, but I'm not sure if its enough so to say. Any help or advice welcomed.

[elfin venture]

best way to make the ship look like it's full of power is to do what you did there in combination with coloured "wires" on the bottom, which are surrounded by nothing but the base paint - some of the Imperium ships do it, as well as my first Design Contest submission, Faraday Cage, which is there if you scroll far enough
it's a nice looking hull though keep in mind the ship also needs to pose a threat since these ships are going into the game

[lament maple]

Thanks for the tips! I’m a little worried the paint is too close to monolith but I’ll keep the colored wires in mind. And for the weapons, that’s the one part I’m not to terribly worried about. It’s the one thing I’m half way decent in.

[grizzled sequoia]

||i swear this is not cabal, or|| is this looks too much like cabal?

[elfin venture]

it looks a lot like a cabal ship, tbh this could be a cabal freighter and I wouldn't bat an eye, so yea it's too close to cabal id say
also those nukes might have a little difficulty firing without hitting the armour

[oak plaza]

Any thoughts on Express Delivery...?

I couldnt make the Cardboard box layout and just proceeded to make a hauler ship...

[oak plaza]

I feel this is different enough to not be Cabal...
It mainly reminds me of The One Who Made The Rings, The Lord Of The Rings...
Sauron

[small breach]

looks unique enough imo

[oak plaza]

Its Done, only Broken Wing left...

Its a stark contrast to Knock-Out...

Its all coming together...

[small breach]

i like how you changed the cg ammo section, good improvment imo

[oak plaza]

Thanks Brother...

[elfin venture]

kind of
they are both long ships with a gap in the middle and a lot of armour + shields at the bottom
though in terms of paint they have only 1 similarity which is lack of shadows

[oak plaza]

Im trying my best to not use the 3rd layer shadows technique...

[elfin venture]

i've ended up doing the same, but it was more of a coincidence

[tribal heath]

I think it's looks too much like Cabal. Star-theme ship and warm palette are the reason, except from nukes.

[grizzled sequoia]

i think i made it brighter than most of cabal ships, and the initial nuke launch make far enough distance to not hit the armor

[grizzled sequoia]

eye of sauron?

[grizzled sequoia]

is it not brighter enough, or do you think change the colour will help it?

i still want to make star themed ship but differ from cabal if possible just like my scapped classic DC

[elfin venture]

Changing the colour to something that the Cabal doesn't use would help, though the fact that the style and theme are similar still isn't good

[tribal heath]

I think shape is mostly reason, so color change will barely help

[elfin venture]

especially since cabal really uses every colour except monochrome

[tribal heath]

Not every

[elfin venture]

they don't use purple i think

[oak plaza]

very much yes...

[tribal heath]

"The optional theme for this contest is “unconventional paint styles”. It is encouraged, though not required, to submit ships that look radically different from the built-in designs that come with the game."
Since it's optional, I think there can be a some chance to pass.
@rose swan

[rose swan]

That mostly refers to paint technique. Contest submissions should still be visually distinct from faction ships.

[oak plaza]

Are these unique enough Vilda...?

[rose swan]

those are both fine

[elfin venture]

well i suppose left has a rather unconvential style in that all 3 paints are being used for the "plates" with no highlight

[rose swan]

Ships that look a little like Cabal and Fringe get some leeway on this since those factions use a ton of color schemes/paint styles between them, but generally speaking nobody should be confusing your submission for a faction ship.

[oak plaza]

I feel like they are different enough yes...?

[elfin venture]

yea yours are, vilda already said that
Im pretty sure mine are as well, both style-wise and faction similarity-wise

[rose swan]

I think your submissions are so clearly different enough that you don't need to double-check with me

[oak plaza]

Well I dont want to revise my ship paint yet again, thats why Im really double checking hard...😆

[elfin venture]

understandable
you could also just put the ship in a massive lineup of ships from the nearest faction and see how much it stands out

[oak plaza]

Well if I win the votes I would try that but if my ship aint broken, I aint fixing it...

[grizzled sequoia]

so do i need to change my ship paint color and style?

[elfin venture]

yes

[oak plaza]

I mean you dont have to, you can just brand it as Cabal if ever...

[rose swan]

I think the star motif is fine but the colors and style are too similar to Cabal.

As a point of reference the Man O' War, Pandaemonium, Superconductor, and Echo of the Abyss submissions last contest all use the Cabal "carving style" and were cleared, but Omniprescence was not on the basis of its color scheme being too similar.

[elfin venture]

I didn't realise that Echo of the Abyss was sculpted lol, only the others
i didn't think omnipresence was that similar to cabal, but i might not be remembering correctly
shame, because I think there needs to be more ships with mines in Career

[tribal heath]

Lol

[oak plaza]

Im still sad none of my ships got in...

[elfin venture]

i suppose the fact I didn't pick up on it being sculpted speaks to how well you did it
the thing that separates the best from the merely good is the fact, i think, that merely good paint styles make me think "oh that [style] looks nice"
the best ones you don't even notice the technical side of because all the techniques used are integrated so well they look natural and your mind doesn't question it

[tribal heath]

Good to hear

[grizzled sequoia]

i think i'm gonna try different color scheme first, before repainting it

[oak plaza]

That would be nice...

[grizzled sequoia]

any good?

[past bramble]

i would go for less cabal like colors, so 1st 2nd 3rd 5th 6th 7th

i like 1st 3rd 5th and 9th

[slow axle]

i think imma not submit anything to not get humiliated/j

[toxic ocean]

I like top right or bottom two left ones the most. Oh and 2nd is nice too, reminds me of my own color scheme.

[small breach]

cold nuklearni

[elfin venture]

brrr
I love it

@spark plover are you sure your math or spelling is right? how is your ship jumping up from 1.3mil to 2 million when you add resources?

[grizzled sequoia]

is this still too much like cabal?

[misty lark]

i think the right is distinct enough because of the white, but the sun at the top has no connection to anything outside of cabal

[rose swan]

I think this is different enough, though other architects may have different views.

[grizzled sequoia]

okay, gonna use this then

[vernal lance]

thoughts?

[oak plaza]

Industrial...

[oak plaza]

Damn, that one guy would be the bane of new players...
Its Ictinia but upgraded...

[lament skiff]

You cooked

[oak plaza]

In this setting, they forged...

[tired vapor]

like the classic 4 lc ship that got turned into monolith and is ugly now

[lament skiff]

huh

[tired vapor]

rochre iirc

[lament skiff]

What’s wrong with rochre

[tired vapor]

classic version was better

[small breach]

comparison

[lament skiff]

well it could’ve been done better

ik classic has one less layer though so would need to be modernized

[oak plaza]

Wait, Rochre has no reverse thrust...?

[small breach]

it's diagonal, it has some

even without them

[small breach]

5% vector thrust

so forward thrust move forward and backwards (less so but still)

[oak plaza]

Then here I am putting small thrusters for reversing...

[tired vapor]

strafe thrust exists

[small breach]

side thrust on nondiag ships also gives forward and backward

this can move up and down, slowly but it can do that

one benefit is that it doesn't produce any thrust effect so it's stealthier

as if that matters much

[inner stag]

is that a sundiver

[desert trail]

what if you go for a black and white scheem? you culd call it blackstar if you did

[desert trail]

roach is the only diaganal monolith ship

[small breach]

yeah, cheap asf too

[spring haven]

@toxic ocean Superconductor is missing reactor assignments to these 3 thrusters.

[grizzled sequoia]

like this? but it wasn't bright enough i think

[desert trail]

that looks realy cool actualy

[elfin venture]

desaturating it defs makes it look less cabal
you could also try modifying the paint a little and basically inverting it - the bright white gets darker as you approach the centre

[tight tapir]

Isn't the theme unconventional paint styles and not just unique from faction ships?

These are beautiful ships but have a pretty standard paint style

I thought it meant things like dithering, 3d style, etc

[elfin venture]

i read it that way as well
and vilda basically confirmed it

[tight tapir]

Well no one has to follow the theme so

[elfin venture]

yea true but it lessens your chances

yea vilda said it refers to technique

[tight tapir]

Yeah but the tried and true shadow layers method of the built-ins looks very good and consistently will gain votes

People will still vote for the best looking ships

Which is usually the built-in style

[grizzled sequoia]

If I understand correctly, using built in paint technique are allowed, but should differ in paint style and colour scheme

And I believe (cmiiw), no cabal ships use this three gradient like I did

[elfin venture]

if using built in paint technique was not allowed then you just wouldn't be able to paint anything good lol

[grizzled sequoia]

And for the color scheme I invert my old ship wings of terror

[elfin venture]

oh wow

not a bad ship by any means, quie impressive
though the centre is a bit weak

[grizzled sequoia]

Idk, if most of you think my ship looks cabalish, maybe I'm gonna make backup plan for it

[lament skiff]

It depends on the color scheme tbh

[grizzled sequoia]

My plan is 2 of my ships have same theme, and another one gonna make another thing so it has more chance maybe 🤔

[lament skiff]

I am personally a fan of the black and white version which cabal doesn’t use

[grizzled sequoia]

Yeah, I'm too focused on the feathers, and have no idea how to paint the center area back then

[grizzled sequoia]

The black and white is good, but the theme is shooting star, and I took inspiration from "kimi no nawa" meteor fall, that it should have more colour, or idk how I describe it in English

[oak plaza]

Any thoughts...?
Its finished...

[oak plaza]

Line Up Done...

[toxic ocean]

Thanks, will fix 👍

[uncut vault]

i like this one, its cool, i love the angular, sleek look

[oak plaza]

Thank Erin...

[toxic ocean]

Hey mr.erin ya gonna participate?

[tired vapor]

looks nothing like cabal imo

[uncut vault]

I dont think so, i like painting in the faction styles tbh

[wispy vigil]

Then do that but use different paint, like Green + orange + brown

[toxic ocean]

I understand, but one has got to diversify, and with clever enough tricks a slight modification can make a ship go from a flat out faction vessel into an indistinguishable freestar.

All it took on superconductor was WAAAAAVY THINGIES

And I mean you could literally paint a Cabal ship with a different scheme and a couple gimmicks like usage of cannons.

Long story short be creative with it, you don't have to make a completely unique paint style just for the contest.

Ohhhh speaking of a completely unique paint style, I think I'm gonna remake blast furnace ship to be using my own unique paint style, the 3-fade Imperium.

[uncut vault]

true

also im not that good at coming up with aesthetic ships, luculentus took hours to just make the shape, and the paint took like 5 hours

thats why i like painting elim ships, their shaping is purely functional i dont have to think about it

[uncut vault]

paint might actually have taken like 8-9 hours

ive tried a lot to come up with aesthetic ships but i just end up staring at the build screen with nothing

also what ship(s) are you submitting nick?

[uncut vault]

nvm i made a 1.2M ship that im gonna paint

its hopefully gonna turn out well

also idk what to do with all that empty corridor, its not big enough to fit stuff but its not small enough to be masked with the surrounding roof textures

[late zenith]

stick a sensor array in on one end for sure

it's almost required for the architects judge phase

[forest peak]

i found that i submitted to early, so i took it back.
will bring completely differnt vessels ...

[wispy vigil]

Take all the time you need, The best ships take the most time

Unless it's one that costs 70k, then there isn't much room for improvement there

[lament skiff]

Such an amazing design it doesn’t even need to fit in the established price ranges

it’s just that good

[rose swan]

Storage?

I think I might have forgotten to add this to the event info doc, but submissions should have enough munitions stored to get through a fight against an equal-sized ship with some to spare. Player ships will almost always be a good deal larger than NPC ships, so it's better to overshoot this than to undershoot it.

That's more of a general guideline than a strict rule, but I don't think anyone would want their ship running out of ammo as an NPC if it got in.

[wispy vigil]

All deck cannons should only have a 2x2 ammo storage for them each

It's the best thing for them

[rose swan]

that will run out

[elfin venture]

ah that makes sense
what's an adequate amount of ammo storage for certain ships then? atm i'm using 2x3 for nukes and large cannons, 4x4 for deckguns, and 3x3 for flak

[wispy vigil]

Maybe, but if it were a 60k ship with the deck cannon, I'd say an equal size enemy ship would die before it is out of ammo

[rose swan]

60k ships are not allowed

[wispy vigil]

For a different competition