design contest chat

[strange mango]

you and nick are both free to DM me on the artwork at any time, i just prioritise the highest available place first

[wispy vigil]

Fair enough

[strange mango]

to clear that up, if all of you had DMed me immediately, i would have done nick first, then you, then xsnow. but because xsnow was the only one to do so right away they where the highest available

[toxic ocean]

I mean I thought it'd be nice to allow the one with the shortest temper to do it first make you finish the easiest and smallest one first so that you'd be emotionally prepared for larger pieces.

[strange mango]

thanks for the thought, but i dont mind working on large scale pixel art

[toxic ocean]

Also how exactly do you make your art and how end results usually look? I mean Cosmo is pretty restricted arts-wise because of its mere 4 color channels.

And you can't really draw colorful things.

[strange mango]

theres the option of it just being a png, it doesnt have to be a ship. here is xsnows piece and one of my latest ship arts for reference

as for how i make my art, in general first i make the line art in an actual art program, and then i either move to cosmoteer or keep going with a next layer in the art program,

[toxic ocean]

Alright I see.

So you create real art and then apply it to the game.

[strange mango]

basically yes

this is pretty much what i design before i move to cosmoteer,

anyway, i got to go buy food, wont take too long

[toxic ocean]

Also that's cute.

You're a very good artist, I don't think this random 2D space ship game is a worthy art program for you.

[toxic ocean]

What the hell is this weird face creature though.

[strange mango]

its a furry meme

[toxic ocean]

Huh 🤨

[strange mango]

are you surpriced? half the server is furrys?

anyway, i should go, ill be back in a moment

[toxic ocean]

No but cosmoteer furry art wasn't something I was expecting.

[grizzled whale]

it's a sergal (an alien from a scifi comics iirc, it was adopted into the furry community and very few know about the original)
the meme reference here is "merp" i can't find the original but there is a lot on youtube

[toxic ocean]

Alright I see.

[wispy vigil]

Pretty cool art

[strange mango]

ive just been typing and deleting this post for the last 5 munites, im not sure how i should respond to being called a 'very good artist' because i never thought of my self as such, ive only recently began drawing outside of cosmoteer but i guess years of drawing in the silly space game payed off

[wispy vigil]

It's good to have your own unique style, and I can see some good potential with your art

[toxic ocean]

Heck yes.

[strange mango]

just finished ᏚᎪ ɥʇɐʌ 工Ꮇღø尺匕Ѧﾚ's piece, you are free to send me the commission DM

[vernal lance]

i wonder how you enforce the don'ts part of the artwork rules

[strange mango]

its mostly a honour system. that and if i find out someone has broken one of them its not very likely ill accept them as a commissioner in the future.

[toxic ocean]

Alright.

[vernal lance]

do we have any news on the overhaul of the contest voting system or is it still in stalemate

[toxic ocean]

^^

Wanted to ask that myself but forgor.

Also, when are the #1081651425999863949 ships implemented in the game?

Like I don't think it's THAT much work.

Oh silly me I'm yet to rework Shattered Anvil and Power Drill.

[strange mango]

@vernal lance last time i asked (which was right after the previous unofficial contest ended), there was next to no progress on the overhaul, as oneye said "i pretty much forgot, but ill bring it up again". if there isnt enough news by september 30th, im holding another unofficial contest in october, probably a halloween themed one

@toxic ocean thats the architects domain as far as im aware, i dont know anything about the prosess that happens with ships posted there either

[toxic ocean]

I love how 0neye just forgot the second largest usual event in the entire community flat out existed and needed a change.

Very competent pillar of the community :>

Also why do they feel like holding all the contest-related information behind an iron curtain?

PvP tourneys are much more open as they pretty much have a single host.

[strange mango]

im not wanting to jump to any conclusions without solid prove, but i see where you are comming from

[toxic ocean]

Also, Halloween themed contest?! Damn, I have so many ideas already! When I first thought of that concept I thought it'd end up corny with people making nothing but shitty pumpkin ships or something, but then the ideas piled on! I'd love a Halloween-y theme (Not strictly that theme, but an option to follow it nonetheless) fir the next OFFICIAL contest if it happens in October anyways!

[tribal heath]

We need orange role fo winner then lol 😆

[toxic ocean]

Wait until Corpo snatches it from you with one vote with his 1:1 door/vilda ship copies because voting system is broken and architects are seemingly doing nothing to fix it.

[vernal lance]

both me and immtrm did fuck all to influence our votes bitch

[toxic ocean]

Ok lol

[tribal heath]

Wdym?

[toxic ocean]

He just wants to be a toxic jerk, ignore him.

[toxic ocean]

Anywaaays I want to remake shattered anvil but have no idea from where to start, this thing is a huge hot mess.

And blake forbids me from changing it up too much.

I could just add hyperdrives and move on.

But this ship can be something bigger.

And I don't mean that literally lol.

[toxic ocean]

Did some hull reworks.

Should be much better performing now.

[strange mango]

finished writing the next unofficial halloween themed contest rules. the theme is explained in one sentence, so hopefully its much less confusing than last time.

[slow axle]

well to be fair last time it was designed to be confusing

and i loved it

[strange mango]

true, but it resulted in only 3 participants, which all won, and that kinda defeats the whole idea of a competition

[toxic ocean]

So it's confirmed? We won't have an official DC anytime soon?

😔

[strange mango]

nothing is comfirmed, as ive literally heard nothing from the dev team, im going to ask on 25 september (giving me enough time to write official rules, but also giving as much time as posible for the dev team to firure stuff out), and ill update then, im just prepairing what i can in the meantime

[toxic ocean]

Saris said he could help hosting and figuring stuff out or something in https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1020489415476396043

But I didn't get the full picture, so I could be wrong.

[slow axle]

imo i don't think putting all the work on a single pairs of shoulder is a good idea

[strange mango]

personally i wouldnt mind sharing the design contest host postion (though it may cause inconsistancys depending on whos hosting), but Xsnows point of not putting all the work on one guy is valid, i dont want to overwhelm saris with too much work either

[mortal cave]

Hosting design tournaments is actually an order of magnitude more relaxing and easygoing. While I think that 0neye will be taking the lead (at least for right now) it wouldn't be an issue at all.

[toxic ocean]

But I just wonder... We already have Blake.

Like what's the point we already have a fine and dandy host.

He's just not the part of the official team I guess, but... There's a simple way to fix that.

[oak plaza]

I guess having someone in the Architect side of things cohost would be their way of mediating what happens in the contest...

Its their last call if our builds go in game afterall...

[toxic ocean]

Fair.

[toxic ocean]

I have remade Shattered Anvil and I consider it to be good enough for built-ins now, but it is up to architects to decide.

[toxic ocean]

@strange mango Any coverage on this?

Don't know about you but it's already middle of 25th for me.

(Sorry if this appears as pressuring, I'm just curious)

[mortal cave]

0neye asked me to wait till the end of the month and if he didn't get to it I'd proceed

[toxic ocean]

I see.

[toxic ocean]

Also, is the anvil built-in worthy now I wonder?

[mortal cave]

I'm very impressed but have yet to share it such that other architects can weigh in

It's definitely a huge improvement though

[toxic ocean]

Thank you.

[mortal cave]

Hmm, though I do wonder about naming a ship shattered anvil when anvil also exists

[toxic ocean]

I was concerned by that a bit too, but I think it shows some semblance between the two I guess?

Okay next up I gotta completely rework Power Drill.

That thing is a hot mess beyond belief.

[mortal cave]

If you want there to be a connection you probably would need to incorperate actual sections or such, otherwise its just a weird coincidence

[toxic ocean]

True, but it has a really distinct lore I'm very happy with and I really don't want to change it up.

Not sure many people will care, and I think there are a few similar occurances too, like Corrupt's ship being named ''Cygnus Maia'' or something when a ship named ''Maia'' (cabal ship) already exists.

...Anyways, might give Rotten Core and the gang the same treatment as S.A. but they took so utterly long to paint that and were so demotivating to me I might give up on them for good if not for a very lengthy time.

[vernal lance]

maya

[tribal heath]

Mayaya

[toxic ocean]

Maja

[vernal lance]

Maha

also the valor remake

[toxic ocean]

Valiant remake?

It was called Valor.

:|

[tribal heath]

Who needs majenta role, when green role exists anyways

[vernal lance]

your valor remake dork

[strange mango]

(i just asked and dont got any answers yet, but here is what i can tell you) oneye or saris is going to be hosting a contest (from what i can tell, in october), i assume to test out a new modern format. i dont know if this is a one off for them hosting or a permanent change (or something in between), regardless which it is im still intending to host contests myself whenever i can

im probably in a later time zone than you as i only woke up an hour or so ago, on top of that i wake up pretty late even for my timezone

its fine, i understand being curious about this, its been a while since the last official contest after all

[toxic ocean]

I hope architects won't permanently replace you, that'd suck.

Not like I have any issue with 0neye or Saris hosting, it's just that you're a fun host on top of a good one.

[strange mango]

i hope that too, as i really enjoy hosting contests. if it does happen to be a permanent change, im hopeing (and will be suggesting to the host chat that) it will just be a case of 'saris/oneye/me take turns hosting contests'.

thanks for all the kind words regarding my hosting by the way, it means alot knowing that the contests i host, which (again) i enjoy doing, are also enjoyed by the people who join them

[past bramble]

2 ships max, 1.5m and optional theme of unconventional weapon combinations

[stiff sandal]

Holy shit

Design contest back

Pog

[halcyon python]

no faction ships? interesting

[wispy vigil]

all ships

no hold bound

[halcyon python]

3 weeks

[past bramble]

Unconventional weapon design is interesting. not sure what weapon combination hasnt been done yet though

[stiff sandal]

Aight time to get to work!

[past bramble]

Oh

No rules regarding collab, i assume its not allowed then, and no factions

[toxic ocean]

Ohh boy, this seems like much more if a strict and unallowing tourney than Blake ones...

*of

[flint basin]

so basically we just build any 1.5mil ship that looks cool and we can enter design contest?

[mortal cave]

Up to 1.5mil in cost on up to two ships; they can't total more than 1.5mil, and have to conform to the campaign mode standards if you want them in the campaign

[flint basin]

what are the campaign mode standards

[mortal cave]

Look at the far bottom of the info page, should be a link

[lament skiff]

unconventional just means mines + your favorite weapon (unless it’s rails)

[late zenith]

nice, time to slap every weapon in the game onto a single ship

[flint basin]

1.5mil really isnt enough money to justify doing that

all the ammo based stuff will run out and then you dont have enough energy weapons to finish the fight

[late zenith]

true

[tribal heath]

@ionic jay We need thread for DC submissions 🙃

[ionic jay]

👌 I don't have the permissions to open it but I've mentioned it in the host chat.

[halcyon python]

Just wondering, does still style count as cabal or is it different enough? (Not my submission)

[tribal heath]

My opinion: It's not a Cabal because paint patterns are blocky and sharp.

[halcyon python]

👍

[tribal heath]

But I don't think that regular players frequently notice difference in patterns, they just see shiny colors and think "It is cabal?"

[rose swan]

I think that's fine, though the color scheme is similar enough that I could see it being mistaken for Cabal.

[simple valve]

Hmm I might try to do something for this, I have a cool paint idea that I'd like to try

[slow axle]

well it make me wondering too
is that too close from cabal too?

[tribal heath]

Absolutely not.

[slow axle]

alrighty

[toxic ocean]

So like the upper cost limit for both ships is 1.5mil or can each ship be 1.5mil max?

Man this does seem like quite a limiting tournament...

[mortal cave]

Former

[toxic ocean]

Yeah I read the rules and got it, thanks anyways.

[strange mango]

since im not hosting, i suppose i might as well join this contest. i might be a bit rusty when it comes to ship building tho, as the majority of my time in modern has been spend making art and calculators

[toxic ocean]

Do it do it do it

[strange mango]

i probably will, i might already have an idea for a ship

[slow axle]

amazing!!! wish you good luck

[strange mango]

thanks, best of luck to the other participants too

[tribal heath]

And best of skill, of course

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

May both luck and skill be on all's side.

[toxic ocean]

I already have a great idea for what my ''Cosmoteer'' ship will be (No it won't be a flying Cosmoteer logo even though that'd be real epic), and it'll be tying into the whole ''Titans' Workshop'' aesthetic that shattered anvil has.

As I read from the info document, Cosmoteers will kinda be a special ''miniboss'' for the players to overcome, so I'll make it both as good and as fight-cappable as I could do.

Okayy this is the first draft and it kinda sucks, not to mention how miniscule it is for 1.5mil...

[tribal heath]

Agreed, ha-ha

[toxic ocean]

Will you be joining immo?

[tribal heath]

Of course!

[toxic ocean]

Nice.

Looking forward to seeing your ships.

Or just ship.

[vernal lance]

wonder what'd I'll do

[past bramble]

is it strictly combat ships only?

[tribal heath]

Definitely combat.

[past bramble]

so stuff like armed transporter is out of the question huh

[toxic ocean]

Probably.

[simple valve]

everyone looking through their old career saves to get a true "cosmoteer" ship to upgrade to built-in standarts

[past bramble]

welp i guess this needs a change in direction

[simple valve]

mmm I assume I won't get bonus points for unassigned storage for extra career realism

[toxic ocean]

Lol.

Okay this is looking so much more promising.

[toxic ocean]

@ionic jay The in-game difficulty classifications don't count the resources into the total cost limit, does this apply to the design contest too? (The january DC was not counting them too)

[ionic jay]

Yep, resources will not be counted.

[safe stratus]

hmm

[simple valve]

I just got an idea, what if there was a "cosmoteer" logo decal contest? would be pretty original and could be used for these ships

ofc only after this is finished since you don't want to have two tournaments at the same time

these ships could be updated later

anyways I'm definitely cooking something

unfortunately it's 245k rn so it's not optimal for it's tier, but I'm probably gonna change the hull a little so that it has slightly more crew and storage

[toxic ocean]

Pretty neat. Also please don't forget that cosmoteers are supposed to be a special chalenge, so sort of like a ''mini-boss,'' so they'd much rather be tougher than regular ships.

[simple valve]

Yea, it's pretty weak, tho it's harder to build a strong ship if it's supposed to have unique weapon usage

Might do more than 2 and then choose the best ships anyway

[late zenith]

Meet the Paintscraper, an extremely early game miniboss meant to be encountered rarely in the first system. Worth 74,988 credits, it's main feature is the central flak gun, making it the only ship around 75000 credits with a flak gun and a way to force players to think more carefully, especially if you run something ammo based early game. It also shreds most to all non Imperium ships in its price range and is most likely going to be one of the two ships I submit unless I think of something better. The best way to overcome it is to add lasers to your vessel, especially heavy lasers to try and punish the Paintscraper as much as possible for running headlong at you without a better plan.

[toxic ocean]

I like it quite a bit, very creative challenge for the players to overcome. I just wish it had more varied paint as aside from shadows it doesn't have much going on.

[oak plaza]

My idea, need feedback...
"Starfarer's Lovers"
Theme: Partner ships that work well together or contrast well with each other... Basically a tank and a support ship combo, on brand with my credits in game... (Well I already have Kaine's Wrath and Kiana's Organ so this is why its the same shit for ||couples themed ship or just basically me and hers type of deal|| which is that...)

Name: Mister
Description: Prepare For Trouble
A bulky combat heavy oriented ship that aims to lock you into combat by smashing your hull against itself as it unloads fire upon fire of deckguns to your bridge.

Its made to be tough but not heavy, so better make sure to be prepared for the trouble it brings...

Name: Missus
Description: Make It Double
A ship that has double the firepower, meant literally as it carries two of the same weapon system on board this ship.
This ship works great in tandem with aggressive type ships as it hangs back and picks off enemies one by one.

Better not be seeing double, as it will shoot you twice the rounds...

[vernal lance]

holy

[oak plaza]

The idea where we only submit 2 ships just clicked in me and this is what it made...
The tagline for each was next because I just wanted a witty quote that if you have both, you will get the reference...

[toxic ocean]

Interesting concept, but how are you going to make a double ship that attacks you both at once into a reality? You could use explosive charges but they are strictly forbidden for this contest.

[oak plaza]

No bro...
these are the two ships Im submitting...
each different...

[toxic ocean]

Ah alright, so they won't be fighting together it seems.

[oak plaza]

well if they spawn together that would be nice...
as it is an independent bounty...

[vernal lance]

sometimes against eachother

[oak plaza]

well couples have fights too...
HAHAHAHAHA

[toxic ocean]

Not really ''to the death'' fights though.

[oak plaza]

well there is a phrase "Till Death Do Us Part"...

[toxic ocean]

xd

[oak plaza]

Btw, is the tagline great...?
I thought of that yesterday and I really have to put it here in need of feedback...

[toxic ocean]

Stop with the puns you're making this deeper than it needs to be 😆

[toxic ocean]

Yeah you have some pretty sweet punchlines for your ships and subs.

Adds charm.

[oak plaza]

btw, does the main release have the chainguns or should I stay on unstable as I make my ship...?

[tribal heath]

It have

[mortal cave]

Chainguns launched on Friday

[toxic ocean]

Main release does have them already.

[mortal cave]

#announcements message

[oak plaza]

my bad...

we only have 1.5 mill right...?

[tribal heath]

Right

[tribal heath]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xaoLCj6_7VVZwGxDeZZVPJRk0QigwkqarjWLUTR6wxY/edit?usp=sharing

[oak plaza]

Thanks...
Was lazy to open the doc...
HAHAHAHAHA

[oak plaza]

Let me just be clear, we will take the price in the ship library, not the currently price it has in the build mode right...?

Ship Library Price:
Mister Price 749284
Missus Price 749828

[tribal heath]

Yes
#1059084974655033415 message

[vernal lance]

am I able to post for someone else banned from the server the same way Yugi posted for people without access to the server?

[oak plaza]

New Price, from in game with the ammo included...
Mister: 749424
Missus: 750388

[oak plaza]

I think thats fine...

[oak plaza]

Ill paint this tomorrow...

[vernal lance]

jeez your already 30% done with your subs??

[oak plaza]

Shit man, of course I am...
I have my theme and I set my mind to it...

the hard part is painting...

Btw, here is the Divorce...

god damn domestic abuse...

[vernal lance]

inaccurat wimin must have a godly amount of pwoer ah ainst mhan !!1!1!!!

[oak plaza]

I tried it before I finalized it...
Missus won against Impaler in a clutch, so its 50/50...
but Mister won against Haymaker nearly 90% at the time...

[simple valve]

hmm, since I can't come up with a good enough and original idea, I'm just gonna start a new career game and try to use weapons originally

[past bramble]

idk what to build

maybe i should just meme

[oak plaza]

Hey, if it becomes a built-in it will be an easy reward...
Hahahahahaha...

Make a ship that has diamonds, enriched uranium and all the high quality materials in a treasure cargo hold and just have it as a loot goblin...

Like a fast kite that just runs when encountered...

[slow axle]

you could resubmit your previous design or remake them

[past bramble]

Im gonna make a ship and name it saint brick

[past bramble]

I dont think you can do cargo ship

If you can i would have made one

[late zenith]

make it hit like a truck and then just have a few cargo holds with valuable stuff on it to the side. Rewards you for being precise and not just nuking it

[oak plaza]

I mean for shits and giggles you make a ship, then have spare money to just have treasure in a 2x2 storage in the ship...

Hahahahahaha

[oak plaza]

Basically this...
But it can still fight yea...?

Props to you if you make said ship a real glass cannon, that one mistake it will disintegrate itself...

[wispy vigil]

it is said that the stuff in the storages does not count, i assume it means both ammunition and valuables like microchips

[oak plaza]

Wtf...

I just backread what Oneye said and why the fuck did I first read that as counted...

I saved my money for nothing then...
Hahahahahaha

[toxic ocean]

It's a pvp design contest :>

[bronze citrus]

Maybe if i perfect my terran federation paintstyle ill submit some ships

[toxic ocean]

Some steamy progress 💭⚙️

The paint is about 20% done, maybe 15%.

[simple valve]

Looks like fringe

[wispy vigil]

I think it's a bit brown for that

[halcyon python]

I think it's pretty good

Some more variation from fringe and its done

[flint basin]

can i submit more than one ship?

[late zenith]

It said 2 max

[flint basin]

i meant like can i submit one 1.5mil ship and then later come submit another 1.5mil ship

[late zenith]

oh the max budget for both ships is 1.5 mil

[flint basin]

(.-.)

[late zenith]

it's why I'm banking on a 75k ship and then a 1.425 mil

[flint basin]

here is what i am asking: if i submit a 1.5mil ship now, can i then come back and submit another meaning i would have two different submissions to the contest

[late zenith]

maybe? I'm not sure. Anyway I'm going to send you a link to the event info so you can look (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xaoLCj6_7VVZwGxDeZZVPJRk0QigwkqarjWLUTR6wxY/edit#heading=h.j8zpr2xoc0oy) and also an image of the 75k monstrosity "The Paintscraper"

[scenic elm]

:)

[rose swan]

I'm pretty sure that's not allowed, and you'd have to pick one or the other. Check in with 0neye to be sure, though.

[ionic jay]

All of your submissions must add up to under 1.5mill. Timing doesn't matter.

[forest peak]

potential design contest ships - what do you think?

currently deciding if i should send a single missilebarge with flak, DC & utils to design contest OR this DUO:

#ships message

[late zenith]

looks nice

left looks like a deadlier version of Impending Lawsuit, the FSR freighter

[forest peak]

similar shape but it is diagonal and has no ions

[late zenith]

true

[forest peak]

not sure about this rule: "No ships made purely for combat"
if theay are not civilian ships then they are for combat - wonder if my two ion ships are too "pure"
(my barges are multi role so they would fit nicely to the rules)

[late zenith]

That one's a little iffy because they also explicitly say no civvie ships so maybe a little clarification could help because my current product is a combat ship

[forest peak]

maybe pure armorbricks with weapons and thruster -sandwiches are ruled out by this.

[late zenith]

Yeah I'm probably safe. The Paintscraper is neither, since it shows up so early game you can counter it with 4 lasers

At 74988 credits, the Paintscraper's main job with its trusty flak gun is to help ensure players upgraded or branched out into new weapons by throwing at them a enemy with a new gun not seen at all in the 1st system currently

[forest peak]

actually there is a third ship that fits the series style wise but only two ships allowed and all 3 would also be over budget

... refining paint ...

[forest peak]

funny noone submits eary ⏲️

[late zenith]

don't tempt me I need to fix Paintscraper's paint + I need the other one

[forest peak]

will submit soon becasue we are allowed to make changes and resubmit later

[late zenith]

New paint drop for Paintscraper

[forest peak]

no reverse and side thrust will make it maneuver miserably

[late zenith]

yes

but the ai can use it

[forest peak]

asteroids exist, and the ai gets stuck easily if it does not have a proper thrust system 🪨 🥞

[late zenith]

the normal ai gets stuck on it already

also this is not the first ship around 75-80k to have no reverse and side thrust, even though the majority do. Fervent Spark and Osprey both lack reverse and side thrust

[late zenith]

If they can scoot around my career save without many problems so can this ship

[past bramble]

im right now extremely annoyed because my ship wont orbit properly

[oak plaza]

That's why I made a Kite and a Rammer...

Because for fuck sake I don't know how to even set a ship to orbit...

[gritty kraken]

where does one submit their ship?

[oak plaza]

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1059085469708734515

[gritty kraken]

i literally feel like my painting isnt good enough now lmao

[oak plaza]

I feel you Bro...
I feel you...

If you wanna dread more...

Here is the other one...
https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1091784501274869821

Just don't mix up where to post the ship...

[past bramble]

at waht price point is FTL a must have

[tribal heath]

On any if you want your ship to be added to career in future.

[oak plaza]

35% hyperdrive efficiency is good...

[oak plaza]

Will you be joining this design contest Immtrm...?

[tribal heath]

Already

[oak plaza]

Nah man...
There goes my chance to win...

Hahahahahaha

[tribal heath]

Ha-ha

[oak plaza]

I will say it right now...
It will just be you, Corrupt and Nick is my contenders...

Avokado and Air on the running...

The time I was gone, they stepped up their game...

I'm currently relearning how to paint...

[tribal heath]

Good luck

For you 🫵

[deft kayak]

If I have time I might join this contest

The last design contest I joined was the last classic one lol

[oak plaza]

Let's go!!!

This is getting fun...

All we need is our Frenchman...

@flint abyss, you got plans...?

[oak plaza]

You need to join Bro...
The Broken Sun and Ozzymandias needs more...

[oak plaza]

Wish me luck...
I'm currently struggling to paint...
Hahahahahaha

[deft kayak]

I like this contest since it has a smaller price point, it means I'm much more likely to actually finish something in time

[oak plaza]

Huh...?
Its the same 1.5 mil like Last time though...

Wait...

No, it's 3...
Im dumb...

[deft kayak]

I'm away from my pc for awhile but when I get back I'll still have a couple weeks before the deadline

[oak plaza]

You got this brother...

Currently been working on mine here...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314115775319506955/1158737401921949757/Missus.ship.png?ex=651d55cc&is=651c044c&hm=cf236e0382e7b5d0b5ac8c34f0655aae8a60eb48fc577d7abd87bf2d6036b525&

[deft kayak]

Gotta think of some bizarre core

Ooh sick

[oak plaza]

What would happen if PistonLoop and IronThinker made a ion core ship...

[oak plaza]

It already has lore, theme and everything...

Just the paint left...

[deft kayak]

Is butchering his name the norm now? lol

[oak plaza]

This...

[oak plaza]

Nah, just me...

[oak plaza]

Here is the lore if you like it...

I'm way proud of the lore honestly than the ship...

[deft kayak]

lol, I don't have much lore for any of mine

[oak plaza]

Read the descriptions first then give feedback...

I'm really a story kinda guy...
I can whip out a theme but not get it in to practice...

The first one I made was Kaine's Scrapyard on the first ever contest I entered...

It has lores for days...

The second Kaine's Scrapyard too was great as well...

Even my last unfinished Contest Submission has lore...

Hahahahahaha

[flint abyss]

what is happening ?

[oak plaza]

Design Contest Baby...

It's independent so you can make anything that doesn't fit with the 4 main factions...

[flint abyss]

i can repost breach.

or repaint (and rename) rempart

[oak plaza]

Hahahahaha...
Did that not win...?

I remember one of these winning...

[flint abyss]

it did, with the old paint, and also it's not spawning in game

[oak plaza]

Well at least it's in the game...

[flint abyss]

true

[oak plaza]

You could make a new one...
No spinning ball rails though...

And new Chaingun Bro...

Try it...

[flint abyss]

maybe even send the spotter.
good luck killing it early game

[oak plaza]

This is just a big bully...
Hahahahahaha...

But you can only submit 2 ships that has the overall price of 1.5 mil...

[flint abyss]

yes, rampart and spotter should be under 1.5 mil

[oak plaza]

Did you already submitted rampart...?

[flint abyss]

yes, but he did not win, and also i'll repaint it to be in the new steam punk style

[oak plaza]

Well I guess that a good change...
You don't wanna make a Chaingun ship...?

[flint abyss]

also, i have to rename it, rampart is a monolith ship name

[oak plaza]

Oh yea...

[flint abyss]

maybe Muraille it is rampart but in french

[oak plaza]

Nice touch...
Hahahahaha

Make the Spotter French too...

[flint abyss]

spotteur ?

nvm, it's spotter in french too

[oak plaza]

Hahahahahaha...

[flint abyss]

otherwise it's "observateur" which also means watcher

[oak plaza]

Thats way more posh...
I dig it...

Currently I'm working on Mister and Missus...

[flint abyss]

sorry, but i have a ship that is named watcher

[oak plaza]

Then just Observateur...

Voyeur...
Does that mean too foul...?

Btw I gotta sleep now...

See you next time dude...

[past bramble]

hmm

[oak plaza]

I gotta have some shut eye...
I'm getting tired...

[past bramble]

i dont like how shoe horned in the FTL is

[flint abyss]

a voyeur is a creep...

[flint abyss]

it's a bit clunky

ye, that was the issue

or is cleaner better ?

[toxic ocean]

Well I think it was difficulty 4 and above in the previous tourneys.

[simple valve]

Yeah, but if they're gonna be a built-in the ships should have them regardless of their tier

[fast goblet]

I wonder how non-conventional exactly the designs need to be 🤔

improving upon previously submitted designs from earlier contests is a nice option, but it's unlikely mine were exactly "non-conventional"

[small breach]

hmm is 750k big enough to require sensors?

[toxic ocean]

It's not a hard rule I'd say, but after 1mil you'd better have them.

[slow axle]

completly optional as Oneye stated
"(#1020489415476396043 message)"

[simple valve]

I assume there will be bonus points for it however, at least in the architect voting

[flint abyss]

an idea for unconventional weapon combination, i recommend emp + chaingun

[ionic jay]

Nope, you're all overthinking things.

[flint abyss]

more like a push to more unique desings ?

[ionic jay]

Yep, exactly what I said in the message linked above.

[toxic ocean]

Nice, then my design has some pretty unique weapon usage like edge mines and emp in the back (that I might re-brand to nukes 😆)

[vernal lance]

rotate your ram angle 30°

is your simpleton mind able to decipher that or am I required to simplify it further

[flint abyss]

i mean, i'm not going to send this one, but that's the concept i was talking about

[late zenith]

how much is this one

[flint abyss]

about 110k i think

and i'll send it with this one

[late zenith]

ok cool I was just wondering if my early game menace's price tag overlapped with yours

[flint abyss]

and this one is a bit below 1 mil

[late zenith]

cool

My early gamer, the Paintscraper worth 74988 with ammo and purely designed to be a first system challenge and also a way to introduce new players to a ship flying something other than pure cannons, lasers, or disruptors

[late zenith]

new paint, better screenshot

[scenic elm]

almost ready

[oak plaza]

@molten palm...

Here is where you submit it before the deadline...

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1059085469708734515

[molten palm]

Ahh thanks 🙂

Is it a bird ? Is at A Plane ? no its just a ship for the Contest, the "Lightning Thunder"

[oak plaza]

Egg...

[molten palm]

Yess XD

[oak plaza]

Will you be joining the this month's design contest...?

[molten palm]

sure, its in work perhaps there came a overall rework but yes

[oak plaza]

Well I might give a fair bit of advice...

The competition is harder than you think...
Hahahahahaha

[molten palm]

But isnt that, that the fun on this is the focus ?

I think so

[oak plaza]

Yes it is...

[wispy vigil]

I like design contests as a break from designing 1.5m competitive designs

[oak plaza]

I only do design contests because I can't PVP...
Hahahahaha

[wispy vigil]

Anyone can do pvp

[oak plaza]

Yes...
But not great...

[wispy vigil]

I recommend doing domination, it's easier than elimination

[molten palm]

Im defenetly not a designer, farer a pragmatican, but heyyy

[oak plaza]

I don't really have the time to search for games...

I'm on a tight schedule right now too so even my gaming time is half...

[oak plaza]

At least it's a start...

[wispy vigil]

I have got a lot of free time, my schedule this year is quite nice

[oak plaza]

Btw, the design contest submissions channel has the previous design contest submissions too so you can check the field or gather some Intel to the art style and ship design of others...

Here is the last design contest submissions though...

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1091784501274869821

[molten palm]

Pah overs. My heavy MG will fix it 😉

[wispy vigil]

I have my own style, no need to splice the styles of others

[oak plaza]

Yea...
But its nice to see the ships there...

Can give inspiration...

[late zenith]

I'm literally going out of my way to make new styles different from my old ones so I can potentially stand a chance at getting in the first 10 places

[oak plaza]

Having a neck in neck battle is hard Bro...

[late zenith]

I'm terrified, yall are so good at this I'm expecting to see 1st-7th eaten up by people who have miniscule differences in already sky high quality ships

[slow axle]

same

i think i will participate but i need a plan first
fairly unsure if i won't just submit existing ships

[oak plaza]

Well the pressure is on honestly...
Like how my ships need to be more than the last...

I need to step up my game even more...

I feel like I'm going to lose my winning streak...
Hahahahahahahaha

[toxic ocean]

As this is a very strict competition with an all-seeing eye of an actual architect over it, I think the competition is gonna be much tighter.

[small breach]

i can probably compete

[vernal lance]

lmao 1st place tie-breaking

[mortal cave]

I don't think that the results will necessarily be more impressive, just that there'll be fewer (significantly) ships reaching the second phase compared to the first

[scenic elm]

hmmm

is it ready? idunno

[gloomy whale]

For now at least I think Zhe Yu is ready as one of the ship I will post. For the month a question is how much time do I have so I don't know how big or is there going to be a secound ship.

[past bramble]

1 ship done

[gloomy whale]

The good-old Drive-By ? Yeah Drive By will do I think.

It is great ship.

[past bramble]

yea re made it

old and new

[gloomy whale]

Maybe perpare it a few other color as well? Lots of kinds of scheme fit it well and you won't know which people like the most.

[gloomy whale]

I would vote the old one myself, though it is admireable to see your work on the new one and I believe people will like it. Any way good luck.

[past bramble]

that is true but i want to avoid cabal and fringe colors as much as possible

there are some colors that i have used before that would be pretty good

but i like to not reuse colors if possible

[gloomy whale]

I am also thinking about avoiding my ship to look too fringy......As Zhe Yu according to setting is 100% a pirate ship, I did made it rusty looking but I don't know would that make it too fringy. Its basic style isn't I think.

[past bramble]

yea i want to avoid because rules

[gloomy whale]

I hope people can tell me if it is fitting the requirment,

[toxic ocean]

Ye, architect very picky, standard very high.

[toxic ocean]

Solid, imperiumy hull with fringy paint.

[oak plaza]

Any roasts for Mister and Missus...?

Their overall price is 1499412 credits...

[gloomy whale]

I wonder more about is that fitting the rule or not but thanks.

[oak plaza]

I put Icy's last design contest ship color scheme on Missus and it looks great...?

[gloomy whale]

I like them. I would personally favor a less rich color for the rail kitter (darker and more grey I guess) but the patern and layering is perfect.

[oak plaza]

Ill honestly take those consideration...
I do think I should perfect it more, but I dont have the skills to do that yet...

As far as I can do it right now, this looks best for me...

alternate versions...

[toxic ocean]

Mister is great, I'm conflicted on missus.

[toxic ocean]

Blue doesn't really fit to be fair, if you modified the magenta well enough it might be better.

Like make it less flashy.

Mister is also much better off with th eoriginal scheme.

[oak plaza]

But thats just a steal...
Its not going to make it a version...

[toxic ocean]

Good.

[oak plaza]

btw 3x3 storage for nukes is the way to go right...?

[toxic ocean]

N O

Use 2x3 or 3x4

[oak plaza]

okie...

[gloomy whale]

I tried out the idea of gernerally darker color......How doyou think? I didn't like how it turned out.

[oak plaza]

hmmm...
it does look great...

[toxic ocean]

I prefer it over the original but not by much.

[oak plaza]

The idea on the head though...
is my problem...

[toxic ocean]

@oak plaza Could you post ship file so I could try and maybe make a scheme on my own?

[toxic ocean]

Oh nevermind you already did, sorry.

[oak plaza]

oh yea...
hahahahaha

[gloomy whale]

Also version Grey.
I would say it counts as something but not yet am I saying it is a success.

[toxic ocean]

I like this quite a bit personally.

Your ship would greately benefit from a base texture.

[oak plaza]

Please think of the aesthetic though...
its a "Missus" so I really want it to feel like a pink girl ship...
but its harder to put that into practice...

[toxic ocean]

Just the plain white highlights the flaws and the general messiness (Not like it's that bad) of it all.

[oak plaza]

oh yea, the last save has the base texture...

[toxic ocean]

Nice.

What do you think of mine?

[oak plaza]

looks great as well...
but this looks more meaty...
hahahahaha

[toxic ocean]

Oh shoot you're right.

[gloomy whale]

Stand alone with stereotype first I will say not just being pinky would help.

[toxic ocean]

But yours kinda looks like that too.

How bout this?

V I O L E T

Still a ''haha funny stereotype girl color'' but looks a bit better in my opinion.

[oak plaza]

hahahaha...
yea I know...
but with the lore I am going for, it really should be...

Fuck, I should have made ***Mister ***blue...

[toxic ocean]

Lol.

[toxic ocean]

Opinions?

[oak plaza]

Looks royal...
I dig it...

can you send the ship designs...?
I wanna save the colors...

ill honestly rework Mister to be blue...

[gloomy whale]

Anyway this is the most satisfying one I have got yet.

[toxic ocean]

Here ya go.

[oak plaza]

Thanks...

[oak plaza]

its bright...
Like it...

[toxic ocean]

To be fair on a paint like this the layer one being a differently hued version of the base color doesn't really work, and it'd much rather be a differently hued version of layer 2, like kaine's original intended.

[gloomy whale]

When you want heaviness of a ship but dislike darkness and scare, industiral grey is always a way.

[toxic ocean]

Huhhh I have a good idea for the contest for myself!

No matter how good steampunk tower/ titan of the workshop is turning out to be, I feel like it's a bit too similar to fringe, and trying to give it a non-steampunk scheme would detract from the color scheme.

[gloomy whale]

You know here it is just testing posibilities right.

[oak plaza]

yea...
the possibilities are endless...

[toxic ocean]

So, now that I've been obsessed with a pre-historic theme with my missile barges, I feel like it'd be only natural to make my submission a pre-historic themed diagonal ship too!

It's a fresh and previously undone style (mostly) and I think it'd turn out great in the end.

Any opinions/suggestions?

[small breach]

making it lean to more pinkish colors would work imo

didn't change brightness just color

[oak plaza]

This looks more of the original...
I like this very much...

[small breach]

here is the .ship file if you want it

[gloomy whale]

I feels like there is a issue with "Fringe-like", that is fringe itself is a wide range of style, far less fixed than Cabel, Imperial or Monolith, and it is commonly considered to cover a range of ship style feature such as being old and rusty, which was supposed to be the widely seen feature of ravangers and pirates style ships in SF stories.
According to our current rule, not belonging to a faction is part of the requirment. Then how should ships be defined not belong to a widely ranged set of style? To phrase one voter? And architects?
I wonder what the architects would say about this: Will being "Fringy" be strictly definited? What if voters consider ships that looks old and crappy "fringy" and therefore does not vote them? Or are we just encouraged to not make our submitted ships new looking to avoid such issue?
@ionic jay

[tribal heath]

In my opinion "Fringe" often overlaps with "pirate", so... I think you're fine. Just don't use FSR emblems and use pirate emblems instead.

[gloomy whale]

Would it be too late to note "being a pirate ship does not means it is fringe faction"?

[oak plaza]

Thanks...

Anyways I can't make changes now...
I already shut off the PC...

I'll be laying in bed now...
My day is too exhausting...

[small breach]

good night

[gloomy whale]

@toxic ocean Also check this lol. I wonder what you may try out for paint scheme.

[tribal heath]

Pirates are already planned as independent force. And "Independents" can use scrap/pirate-styled ships, I think why not.

[gloomy whale]

Thanks for telling, this is helpful.

[scenic elm]

Also for independent ships you guys should build them how you’d build your ships in career, since they’re pretty much just an AI version of what you are

[toxic ocean]

Agreed.

[toxic ocean]

But we are not making ships for pirates.

''Cosmoteer'' is a completely different category.

[tribal heath]

"Independents" or "Cosmoteers" can use pirate-styled ships, if they want, why not.

[gloomy whale]

I think the thing is we need not only the standerd but also letting the standerd being acknowlegable enough so it won't bother designers and voters.

[oak plaza]

Don't say that, cuz we are literally railkite cheesing our way to legendary...

[scenic elm]

Whar

Also read the guidelines lol

[oak plaza]

Yea...
Hahahaha...
I was just saying on your message...
"How you build your ships in career..."

As the Master Hoarder I will take that personally...

[small breach]

need feedback

before i add lights

[oak plaza]

It looks like a pixelated alien tentacle monster...

[gloomy whale]

I don't know if AI written for the game could ever perform how I spawn and excape every battle until I made a rail kiter and kill every ship, even that one last defense platform of that harmless station, because that is what I did most the time in career.

[scenic elm]

Okay

[oak plaza]

Amen Brother...

[small breach]

intended

[oak plaza]

Literally Me...

[small breach]

for the most part

[oak plaza]

Can you show me the in game picture of it...
I wanna see how much your shields cover...

[small breach]

enough

[oak plaza]

Cuz that armor in the middle really looks so tasty to railfan...

[small breach]

the ship would be strong against missiles and weak against rails

or atleast strong against slow missile ships

[oak plaza]

Let me be real with you fam...
Chainguns will literally chew this center to bits...

[small breach]

nukes:

[oak plaza]

Ions out range nukes right...?

[toxic ocean]

Okay sure but then they'll be mistaken for actual pirates.

[gloomy whale]

||You would do terrible things too if every time you play career you are looking after a couple of noobs who only knows how to wave a chopstick to fight and you need to teach them everything to help them live.||||I hate teaching a whole community sometimes.||

[small breach]

yeah

[toxic ocean]

Anyways, here's lil' fleshy boi. Might end up using it if I have the budget leftover.

90K flat without resources.

[past bramble]

i made something

[toxic ocean]

oooh I like it.

[past bramble]

now to figure out if i can make it work with ai

[small breach]

btw this is a nuke rammer

[oak plaza]

You know, my career playthrough just got stale because at the end of the day...

What would you do if you already have everything...

[toxic ocean]

The lore (Which I have realized but not finished yet) says that it was frozen in an icy planet millions of years ago, only to be preserved with its flesh still on (Even though dismembered and visible from inside its scale-like skin) and has been unfrozen after that planet's home star became too hot and melted it (the planet).

I think it's pretty cool.

[oak plaza]

How fast is it...?

[toxic ocean]

Plus it's October so has a bit of creepy element to it.

[small breach]

60 because of the armor, might replace it with corridors and put huge thrusters

[oak plaza]

So you will be a cyber enhanced alien race...?

[oak plaza]

A complete 180 from mine...

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-palpatine-anakin-skywalker-phantom-menace-gif-10607636

[small breach]

now it goes at 80

[toxic ocean]

🤨 I ain't no cyber-enhanced alien.

[oak plaza]

Then tell me the lore how does it have a Chaingun then...

[toxic ocean]

I thought you were talking about me lol.

Well yeah, it's just a weaponized alien being, half metallic, half flesh.

[oak plaza]

I was talking to you...

[toxic ocean]

Well specifically the chaingun's exterior armor shell is the only metal piece.

[toxic ocean]

I thought you were talking about me as a person lol.

(Jokingly of course)

[oak plaza]

Ohhh...
Hahahahahaha

[small breach]

also now i have like 28k extra

[oak plaza]

I'm already off the PC...
Maybe Nick or Snownuki can help...

[gloomy whale]

Ok seriously: anyone with any interest on try edite this ship's color and etc by any degree?

[simple valve]

I really need to come up with a good enough design

I keep running into strength or design issues

It's always weak and good looking or strong and awful looking

[gloomy whale]

Maybe give up perssuing one of them and fully enjoy the other. Then just one step back torward the other side you found your balance.

[small breach]

final form

added mining beams and resource collectors

[oak plaza]

What...?

https://tenor.com/view/bcfd-monkey-confused-gif-5786043144724365138

You will submit this right...?

[small breach]

after adding lights, yes

with this too

i really need to finish the technocracy reborn lore

[toxic ocean]

That is pretty epic.

[toxic ocean]

Go on what do you need.

[small breach]

yugi needs help

#1059084974655033415 message

[toxic ocean]

Okay so you want new schemes?

[gloomy whale]

Let's check what you got.

[toxic ocean]

Alrighty.

[mossy spire]

Going to try to participate in this design comp whilst keeping my overall faction theme.

Thoughts for unusual weapon combos:

Small rails to soften up target at range with DC secondary for close encounters

PDs and mining lasers as the only damage source with EMP missiles to break shields

Flak and small cannons? Not sure if that's "unusual"

Basically some combination that doesn't involve S/L lasers, disruptors, or ions. I'm open to suggestions!

[toxic ocean]

@gloomy whale imperiumy scheme.

[past bramble]

im having so many issue in trying to have it orbit nicely

its either it keeps stopping because the angle is too sharp

or orbit too far out for the DC to shoot

[gloomy whale]

Ok, pass.

[past bramble]

drive by also doesnt orbit properly

[small breach]

try making it auto orbit with slightly different settings this time

[toxic ocean]

This has to be one of the ships so far.

[toxic ocean]

Sorry wrong ship.

This

[small breach]

just a quick question, can i submit to ships with the same cost in this design contest?

[gloomy whale]

You can.

[small breach]

nice

[toxic ocean]

#1059085469708734515 message Nice job, but please reference me as ''Nick'' because as far as I'm aware Cosmoteer can't handle Georgian characters (plus I prefer it that way).

Also I'd suggest you put all the contributor reference in the ship description instead of in authors as that'd mean potentially a billion people get named as the ship's author even thuogh one person really made the ship 😆

[small breach]

i split them into authors and Contributors, should probably add a line breaker there

[flint abyss]

do you guys think that i 4*4 ammo storage is enough for a DC to be 2 fights compliant ?

it's not a hard rule looking at the contest rules, but it is a general good form from the other ones.
still i would like to somewhat comply to it

mostly worrying for this one

[tight tapir]

Probably not

Looks like you could fit more storage around them

[flint abyss]

that's true

and it will be hell with to repaint

but i could add 2*3 storage to each

[scenic elm]

you guys gotta remember, these are "Cosmoteers" pretty much ai versions of what we play as
purley combat focused ships dont really fit these independent ships

but idunno

[late zenith]

The way I see it they're just supposed to be minibosses that force players to use brain. Considering by the mid game even I learned to separate my cargo from my combat vessels most cosmoteers would probably almost be purely combat by then

[mortal cave]

In the lore sense Altronbee is absolutely correct, but giving your ships a ton of empty storages wouldn't be a great idea

[late zenith]

So would this be purely combat oriented? This is based off something I actually made in career and hit a dead end with

[mortal cave]

I should specify that its fine to have combat oriented ships probably

[late zenith]

ok cool

my 2nd ship for submission is burning in a dumpster right now from the various reactor hits it sustained against every ship in its price range

[scenic elm]

but why would all cosmoteers be hostile?

[late zenith]

they didn't say we could trade with them at all, and that's like the only thing friendly ships really do

I guess they could help us from time to time like neutral faction ships

[tribal heath]

"of what we play as" is a absolutely vague argument. I hope you don't mean how play you, when you saying "how we play as". If I want run my career on purely combat focused ships (but with career stuff like hyperdrives of course), who can ever stop me. And more than that Walt supposed that Independents can and usually should (but not must) be a special challenge above a typical faction ship.

[oak plaza]

Can you guys tell me what color are their eyes are...?

[flint abyss]

green and blue

[oak plaza]

Thanks...

[wispy vigil]

Cyan and lime

[hollow python]

Why do you add … behind every sentence, makes you sound insecure

[oak plaza]

Its just how I type, a habit...

[hollow python]

Aight

[slow axle]

what are the rules on collab/contributor? are we forced to make our work alone? how about feedback from the community during construction
@ionic jay you are the host i think(i hope) i'm free to ping you

[oak plaza]

this looks better for Mister right...?

[oak plaza]

making some action shoots...

Im also shit at taking action shoots...

[flint abyss]

you mean stuff like that ?

[flint abyss]

make this one ram an enemy ship

[flint abyss]

and this one make it destroy bullets

[toxic ocean]

Few tips:

1. Turn on fancy lightings and fancy particles, maybe increase UI scaling too
2. Make all or at least most of the guns fire
3. Depict the ships fighting others, just for those dynamic particle effects everywhere and redder, stressed shields which look very cool.

Hope this helps, that's how I do em at least :>

[oak plaza]

thats too hard for my smooth brain right now...
I cant even think straight anymore...
its 10:40 in the evening and I still havent gotten any rest from my trip from college...

[flint abyss]

go sleep or go die

[oak plaza]

I was going to say "I dont need sleep, I need answers" but I have practice in 8am tomorrow...
thats actually why Im asking Nick here if he can do the action shoots for me just like with Rednaxela...

[toxic ocean]

Ok

[oak plaza]

You really did a wonderful job with Rednaxela...

[toxic ocean]

I guess it's no too shabby.

[oak plaza]

anyways I will hop off the night now...
I really cant take it anymore...

Goodnight guys...

[ionic jay]

Collabs are fine. Feedback doesn't count as contributing.

[simple valve]

cooking, I bet it's too weak

but I really like the shape

and yes the middle being connected with only one prism is intentional, tho I might change that

[toxic ocean]

Not bad, I like the structure arrangement.

[lusty ruin]

The optional theme is: “Unconventional weapon combinations”. This also includes chainguns as they haven’t had time to become “conventional”.
Note: If you use mines, make sure they can actually hit the enemy during AI combat; they can’t be autofired.

does this really matter much?

[toxic ocean]

The unconventional weapons part isn't a necessity, however the mine part is.

If you don't use mines the way this note says then they simply will be rendered useless.

[lusty ruin]

probly wont use them anyway but thank you

when voting will it make much of a difference for things like that though?

[ionic jay]

It's up to the community to decide how important they consider unconventional weapon combinations when voting, but it won't matter for the Architect voting phase.

[lusty ruin]

ah okay cool thanks for letting me know

[lusty ruin]

how far does a nice paintjob go?

like compared to actual functionality

[ionic jay]

Aesthetics are generally much more important than functionality in design contests, though the competitive players usually also pay attention to combat effectiveness when voting.

[lusty ruin]

dam okay good to know

[toxic ocean]

They are the sole driving force of the contest. Looks over functionality is the main theme of the design contest, whilst functionality over the looks is reserved for pvp tournaments 👍

[lusty ruin]

ah okay cool

[toxic ocean]

Does this look too imperiumy or would it be fine for an unaligned ship?

I'm talking about the spines.

It's supposed to signify bony extrusions (prehistoric style and all).

[simple valve]

hmm the spikes are oriented too randomly for imperium

still paint matters way more

[toxic ocean]

True.

I'll make them look like faded bones.

[flint abyss]

looks like a worm head

those worms that live at the bottom of the ocean

[lusty ruin]

she just needs a paintjob

right on 1,500,000

[toxic ocean]

Woah, I love how the shape looks.

With thouse gigantic antler-like pieces and the structure wing carcass on the back.

[lusty ruin]

thanks, the lights in the antlers were hard to fit into the budget a bit but they look too good to leave out lol

[late zenith]

I cooked too hard with the 2nd ship. The scariest part of this abomination is that it actually wins with the AI. It caught the Gavel (morbiter) and tore it in half. I'm afraid of this thing. 540k ish btw

Paint will come later

[small breach]

oh cool, thought my ships weren't getting in due to their mediocre functionality

[oak plaza]

Bro, I just saw the ships in the Ships channel and Im thinking to myself "If these are the ships I'm up against in the design contest then I will shit my pants bro" they are just too good...

[small breach]

same

although i think they're too big

[toxic ocean]

Who would've guessed, the word design in design contest is the important one.

But I suppose design could also mean functional design but whatver.

[small breach]

i mean these days nothing actually means anything

could be a pvp contest but you need to build a ship

[toxic ocean]

Yeah... Actually the pvp ''build and fight'' gamemode Walt has been talking about sounds extremely intriguing. Like how will it work, and even better, could we make a tournament out of it? 👀

[small breach]

design contest tells me to design something, didn't know what should be more important

[small breach]

yeah

[toxic ocean]

I suppose but these design contests have always been strictly related to aesthetic design, ever since they became a thing in like 2019.

Nobody's asking you to make a hyper optimized sweaty tryhard gamer TB rail orbiter.

[small breach]

well i mean i never joined one ever, this is the first time i participated in them

[small breach]

honestly quiximo's take on combat ships having storage is what made me put extra storage on my ships

both of my submissions have unused storage

one of them has a mining laser and a resource collector too

[gloomy whale]

(This is laggy therefore it would take me sometime to puzzle up my words. I will be keeping on editting this message as I accidentally sent it when it is 30% written)

[small breach]

#1023036219040464906 message

[gloomy whale]

A few question about how we are making the ships for this contest more "comoteer-built alike":
**
To how much degree does that mean our ships provided here are recommended to own civil function especially the ability to carry cargo？**
I know it is common for players to build ships mixing cargo storage and combat in career (we have all been there), but there is also a lot of cases for a lot of players in which players splite combat ships with civil ones entirly, perhaps only leaving the ability to carry temporary cargo hold on their combat vessel (It is the recommended game way for new players in CCC, more than half of us plays like that). Therefore ships that is entirly combat-designed (specialized for career combat emviroment though) is common I believe, and it won't be wise if the rule tends to refuse them.

How alike can the behaviour of us cosmoteers be simulated by AI? To be specific, will they copy some of the tactics that is common considered in our career ship design?
There are strategies vital for specific designs such as using bombs to seperate temporary cargo hold from combat vessels to ready for engage. Also there is fleeing: as cosmoteers in game, we store lots of wealth and fear losing them most the time, so we flee if we are in risk of losing them. We would turn around and run, even warp excape. And of corse there is civil focused ships, which usually tends to excape what ever the enemy is. Such tactical needs are the very reason many of our designs would ever make sense.

[toxic ocean]

Lmao these are outruled parts, you'll get rejected just for that reason alone

[small breach]

don't think that was there when i read it

besides, that only applies to faction ships i think

[toxic ocean]

built in combat ships

Nobody ever specified ''faction''

#1059081605420945508 message Oh also this just to put the nail in the coffin lol.

[small breach]

i mean that ship only had mining lasers

now my 750k ship is disqualified just because i added 2 mining lasers

(that was sarcasm)

if it's actually disqualified because of the 2 mining lasers and resource collectors then i most likely would never participate in design contests again

[toxic ocean]

Remove them, not a hard fix.

[oak plaza]

My action shots for both my submissions...
looks good...?

[toxic ocean]

Oh shoot forgot to do glory shots for you.

Lemme do em real quicky.

[oak plaza]

Aight...
Ill add those for my submissions...
hahahahahaha

[small breach]

nope, i'm keeping them, not like removing them changes anything, unlike explosive charges the ship doesn't rely or need them to do something

[toxic ocean]

Very stubborn.

[small breach]

that ship started as a combat ship but making it a hybrid makes it way more special

[small breach]

it's either that or i have extra money that i can't use without overhauling the ship and the paint

[toxic ocean]

Nothing illegal with having money remaining.

[small breach]

nothing illegal with having extra money used on something ai can't utilise then

[toxic ocean]

Welll my tiny ship submission is done, the Rotling. It costs 90K and has a pretty stacked chaingun. Out of these two, the other one will be 1.4mil.

[toxic ocean]

Well unfortunately there is something illegal with it. It's literally in the rules.

[small breach]

i don't care, if the architects decide to disqualify me then they're free to do that, i'm keeping them

[toxic ocean]

Ok lol you do you, it's just that you lose for no reason.

[gloomy whale]

By orange and by purple it means?

[toxic ocean]

Green - should use
Yellow - can use but shouldn't be central theme
Red - should never use
Purple - there are specific sircumstances that should be upheld.

[small breach]

i just don't think anyone would disqualify a ship for having 20 tiles of the wrong thing

[toxic ocean]

Feel free to argue with door about it.

[oak plaza]

then does nukes and mines go in cabal for "specific circumstances..."

[toxic ocean]

Yes lol.

Nukes can indeed be legally used on cabal ships.

[gloomy whale]

@ionic jay Are we supposed to be able to use parts like Minning lasers, Recource Collectors and Explosive charges this time? As on the one hand it is cosmoteer ship we are making now and it would be rediculous if they are not availiable, on the other hand as stored designs for future plan it should be fine for us to stay optimistic that future game AI should be able to do the work.

[toxic ocean]

I'd suggest #1059081605420945508

[oak plaza]

I mean, bro...
if cabal of sol is a religious sect that worships the sun itself...
then why arent they using nukes that are the closest thing to a bright white light they are seeking...

Are they stupid...?

[small breach]

nukes are fake suns

and imperium wouldn't like other factions to use their weapon

[oak plaza]

But bro...

[toxic ocean]

I agree lol. But I'm pretty sure nukes' import and export is strictly regulated by the impers.

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doctor-octopus-the-power-of-the-sun-in-the-palm-of-my-hand-sun-gif-23770857

[oak plaza]

Ill add these too to show the guys that my ships are somewhat combat ready...
Missus works like 20% at the time versus the same type/weaponry/tactic...
Mister works 90% of the time versus the same type/weaponry/tactic...

[oak plaza]

btw Nick, will you still be doing this...?
Ill be waiting for them before I post these ships in the submissions...

[vernal lance]

god give me the strength and motivation to create some goddamn contest ships

[toxic ocean]

Fine job.

[toxic ocean]

Good for you I guess.

[oak plaza]

Thank God, I thought you were going to criticize my ship...

[oak plaza]

did the test properly...

[toxic ocean]

You just sped up the inevitable with this message... 😔

[oak plaza]

Nah bro...

Kapag nakarinig ako sayo Corrupt ng bad feedback ay naku...
"If I hear one bad feedback from you Corrupt I swear to god..."

[toxic ocean]

''ur ship sux bro''
''son of a bit-''

[oak plaza]

Btw, you going to do some action shots nick...?

[vernal lance]

hold on I'm thinking of something to criticize

you didn't turn on fancy graphics

[oak plaza]

does it really change much of the image...?

[toxic ocean]

How many times you should say that lmao I'm trying to find the goddamn ship files.

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

[toxic ocean]

Fnacy lightings do be fnacy though ✨

Thanks.

@oak plaza And a one and a two.

Blue and red background because... Self-explanatory.

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-nice-jojo-gif-25562996

I always can count on you bro...

[toxic ocean]

No problemo, I need to go eat now though.

[oak plaza]

laters bro...

[oak plaza]

Just submitted it...
Here's hoping that it gets voted...

[late zenith]

nice

[toxic ocean]

Good for you.

[simple valve]

no hyperdrive? :megamind:

[toxic ocean]

I just cross my fingers and prey the ''lack of HD allowed as long as your ship is diff.4 or less'' rule from the previous official contests applies here as well.

Otherwise starter system CG ship is just objectively impossible.

[small breach]

i mean every built-in ship (of the 4 main factions) regardless of size has a hyperdrive

[toxic ocean]

Look at some small fringe ships, some of them don't.

[past bramble]

i guess there is exceptions

[small breach]

alot of them do though

[past bramble]

play safe or play risky

or just ping oneye and ask if its fine or not

[small breach]

an hd is 10k, might be cheap enough to work around

[toxic ocean]

I love how YOU, the guy who literally put two outruled parts, not even one, on their ship, is the one to criticise me for doing something that at least a few of the official ships do.

Hilarious.

[small breach]

hahaha very funni "your ship is illegal" man

[toxic ocean]

You are the equivalent of a war criminal judding a petty thief for their crimes

[small breach]

i'm the equivalent of a war criminal judging another warcriminal before warcrimes were invented

the illegal part of my ship wasn't even illegal when i submitted it

[toxic ocean]

Lol

I love logic

[past bramble]

im pretty sure mining lasers is stated to be illegal since the beginning

the rubric of weapons was always included in the guide

[small breach]

i don't think it included the part about mining lasers, resource collectors and explosive charges being illegal when i first read it

[toxic ocean]

especially res collectors.

ML can at least be used as a weapon.

[past bramble]

it was there

since the beginning

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

[past bramble]

the guide existed before the contest rule

[toxic ocean]

Of course when designing a ship for a built-ins contest you should follow the goddamn built-in guide.

[past bramble]

honestly just go ask oneye directly about the stuff to cclear any confusion

its clear there is some exceptions

[oak plaza]

Hows this for a chaingun ship...
called it Lead Crown...

[past bramble]

you changing your submission?

[oak plaza]

Nah, I posted this ship in the wrong channel...
Hahahahaha

I just made a new ship...

[simple valve]

"Mirage" is coming together

[simple valve]

wrong, I made a tier 3 with one magazine, one 2x2 storage and a hyperdrive just fine

[toxic ocean]

What does this have to do with the design contest?

[toxic ocean]

Oh wow.

Good job then.

[gentle plover]

Chariot isn't quite finished yet. Adding the sensor array and FTL drives last (my bad) increased the ship's cost to 1.550.000 but i like how it looks with the TBs... Without them the FTL efficiency isn't only slightly more than 33% (with two) but 57%. Where to cut cost? General feedback please!😀

[small breach]

i think removing the large shields on the sides might be enough

if not then cutting a layer of armor on the top would be a good cost cutting option

[gentle plover]

ok tyvm!

[toxic ocean]

Oo, I like this quite a bit. But don;'t forget, the cost limit is 1.5 million credits, you can't have any more than that.

#1059085469708734515 message @gritty kraken Cool concept but it's actually Eye of Sauron, not Soron 🤓

[lusty ruin]

do i need to sign up for this in the sign up thread?

[small breach]

nope

that's for pvp

[oak plaza]

I already said it...
I sent it in the wrong channel...

[toxic ocean]

Ah lol.

Sorry didn't scroll down, just saw this image.

[quasi thistle]

thanks

[toxic ocean]

Haha, I knew this would be useful some day.

[quasi thistle]

I mean that helps like a lot

especially for someone like me who has his own factions with different scales

[toxic ocean]

Nice.

[hollow python]

Yo kine could I get the ship.png for your Drive-By chaingun ship, I would like to study it

[mossy spire]

worthy of contest? AI defeats many built-ins at a 200k disadvantage so it's probably the most effective ship I've ever built

[mortal cave]

Where's the center paint?

Is the entire center completely unpainted?

[vernal lance]

very little paint

[oak plaza]

I think its just me who has a lot of lore/description on design contest submissions or generally when talking about ships...
hahahahaha...

Most people dont really have a page 1 essay built-in their ship just to explain all the details...

looking great my guy...

but it does look imperium though...

[normal kite]

does it? dang I wanted Monolith /jk

[night atlas]

lol

[normal kite]

also holy crap how did I get in this chat

I meant to post in #ships

[night atlas]

F

[oak plaza]

That was why I was asking why does it look imperium when we go independent for the design contest...
HAHAHAHAHA...

same mistake I did bro...

[lusty ruin]

looks beefy

[late zenith]

New Version any names? Paint still WIP

[gentle plover]

Uhhh… Looks like a witch hat… You said it’s really good right? Defeating a way more expensive ship? What about „Witchcraft“ ? Looks good btw. However i cant see what is new.

Except for the direction the rear lights are pointing

Im looking forward to the paint!

[late zenith]

I said it killed a Jackdaw, which is a ship in a similar price range but way better firepower since it has heavy lasers, disruptors and nukes. Every laser had a 2x1 directly above but I had to change it to a 1x1 square and 1x1 triangle so lasers could fire better. If this thing is at a price disadvantage its a bit random when it wins and how

it's firepower is a bit lacking compared to any deck cannon vessel though, but that's to be expected

[toxic ocean]

Yeah it'll look rad with a cabally stellar-like paint with maybe large star details on it.

[late zenith]

huh I was going to go with a more hard sci fi kind of paint job, similar to the grayscales of Battlestar Galatica but with more skull and bones kind vibe, but that is an interesting thought

[late zenith]

also I happen to be really bad at Cabal style paint

[oak plaza]

I had similar shaped ships...

[late zenith]

they look cool

I may shave the upper armor to resemble the 2nd one just to see if it has a better kill time in exchange for survivability

[oak plaza]

They still look great...
Mine and yours...

I haven't been able to paint it yet though...

[late zenith]

so as it turns out the shaved version dies immediately, so old version it is

[wispy vigil]

I thought it was 2 ships you needed to submit, are you able to do just 1?

[atomic flicker]

I didn't think so but I could've interpreted this wrong

[small breach]

up to 2 ships doesn't mean you can't submit 1 ship

it just means that the ship limit is 2 if you want to submit multiple ships

[atomic flicker]

yeah, that's what I thought too

[toxic ocean]

Nice.

[simple valve]

Do you have to submit them at the same time tho?

[mortal cave]

Really cool Avokado!

The reactors are kinda jarring with paint completely ignoring them, but past that it looks fantastic

[tight tapir]

Yeah I just didn't want to deal with them lol

Maybe I should clean that up

[late zenith]

That submission gives me an idea for the paint of my 2nd ship

[toxic ocean]

@tight tapir I adore your ship so much.

It's the cleanest goddamn paintjob I've ever seen.

[tight tapir]

Thank you very much!

I like to think that clean paint jobs are my specialty

[oak plaza]

The Competition is looking heated Bois...

Damn, I wish my ships could compete still...

[small breach]

i think we all can compete

pretty sure my ships and your ships will get into the game

[oak plaza]

I mean technically you can...
But to be better than the rest is a damn tall order...

[oak plaza]

You ain't sure about that...

[small breach]

oh i am

i'm definitely being overconfident but i mean this is the first time that i ever was confident

[oak plaza]

Well, let us pray for good luck...
We got this brother...

[small breach]

inshallah

[hollow python]

I deleted my ship so I can make a better ship

Although I very much like Zytozephyr I want something truly worthy

[simple valve]

I like the palette but my original idea for the paint is too boring, tho I'll probably keep most of the edge armor paint

I still have a lot of time to figure it out

[small breach]

reminds me of this meme https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570291234845753376/1160959977263988847/BuildingLazy.png?ex=65368f3c&is=65241a3c&hm=98eb6c5a14e76afae0d238bc541e03af6fa607ee008559e07847cca602599f96&

the edges look very good

[simple valve]

REAL

[slow axle]

i think it's a great idea! but you need to dig it further ||add stars||

[simple valve]

I mean I only dislike the middle, tho the edges are a little repetitive too so I might change the ones I can

not sure about stars tho

[slow axle]

this is my first candidate. Now i cross my fingers that- it would be good at combat!....

[small breach]

is it 1.5mil?

looks probably overbudget by a bit

[slow axle]

it is 1.5mil!!!

[small breach]

now the real test, 1.5mil flat?

[slow axle]

about 100 credit below :3

[small breach]

damn

add 4 structure wedges pls

[simple valve]

or strengthen the side armor a little

oh wait that wouldn't work

not enough money

[slow axle]

if i learned anything my current crew roles need a total rework

[toxic ocean]

Looks like something air would make.

[toxic ocean]

This is me when I make an amazing section for a ship and then anything I add around it looks shoddy in comparison.

[small breach]

"shoddy in comparison" is already better than whatever i make

[flint abyss]

there, muraille with added ammo storage

[oak plaza]

Very nice...
I might say, put some lights on that bad boi...

[flint abyss]

i never put light on those, and i don't even know what color to use for them

perhaps an orange yellow light

oops, forgot to put my mark on it

[wispy vigil]

an actual stick

[flint abyss]

what ?

[wispy vigil]

the recent submission

[flint abyss]

a stick

[raven isle]

Ah ship here we go again

[oak plaza]

I like the concept of the ships by Luna and Stsrlight...

It feels like it's the same ships with the same damage but just with different weapon systems...

[oak plaza]

At least it's not a nuke stick...

[mortal cave]

They're similar but have remarkably different physiology

[oak plaza]

Yup, that's the one I've been looking for...

It feels like they are the same yet different at the same time...

[small breach]

it seems they're good at psychological manipulation (joking)

[toxic ocean]

Concrete's submission does look like a diagonal stick, yes, even though it acts differently. Reminds me of this ship by quicimo.

*Quiximo.

[small breach]

alpha nuke be wild back in classic

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

[small breach]

iirc nukes stopped coming preloaded because of it

[toxic ocean]

Not just nukes lmao, everything

Even capacitors.

[small breach]

so walt really did go all out on alpha

[toxic ocean]

Yada yada waste ships op blah blah blah

This is not really the topic of the channel.

[small breach]

legal

[toxic ocean]

However what is the topic of this channel, is the fact that I still can't figure out what I want from my design contest submission.

[small breach]

competition got so heated my ship might melt

now i understand what kaine has been saying

[toxic ocean]

Not a molecule of ice (or snow, or hail) shall survive in a contest this heated.

[small breach]

my ship is steel not ice

[toxic ocean]

Oh I thought it was an ice themed ship because all the blue.

[small breach]

more of electricity themed

wierd technology or some shit

[toxic ocean]

.....Anyways.

One side of me wants to go back to the steampunk roots and make a really cool missile kite, the other side of me wants to go on a cabally approach except with a very distinct spin — I always wanted to make a tesla-themed ship and I think a gigantic tesla coil could look amazing as a ship for this contest, plus unique as all hell, plus cabal is indeed my strong point.

On the other hand I could mix it with the mechanical.

[small breach]

make tesla coil so that i can lose

and cry in the corner for 4 minutes only to forget everything

[toxic ocean]

Deal.

[small breach]

hmm if my ship enters the game should i apply for artisan?

[toxic ocean]

Plus the whole Steampunk ordeal has already been done fusion_again, and just to prove my point that originality is overrated is indeed overrated, I'll make my own.

[toxic ocean]

Bozo I got second place in the January DC and it took me 3 more months just to get close to the title.

[small breach]

tesla coil sounds like the coolest shit ever

[toxic ocean]

Yeah lol it does!

[mortal cave]

I was referring to the two purple ships

[toxic ocean]

Just a demonstration and by no means a finished product, I think the 3D effect needs work.

[small breach]

epic

[flint abyss]

done, i submitted

[small breach]

nice

[toxic ocean]

Good job.

But sorry to announce that Spooter is already a Monolith built-in @flint abyss

*Spotter

[flint abyss]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

great

[small breach]

wait lemme get a spotter synonym

[flint abyss]

after rampart, it's spotter

[flint abyss]

muraille was called rampart

[toxic ocean]

Alright I really have no idea what I'm doing but this looks rad.

[flint abyss]

nice paint

[toxic ocean]

Thanks.

Now how will I adapt such a thing into an actual ship...

[wispy vigil]

Kind of looks like a screw

[small breach]

hmm these are decent

[toxic ocean]

Well irl tesla coils do like one too.

Except yeah, the copper wire is much finer than in my version.

Tube probably needs to be thicker too.

[wispy vigil]

Those are coils you see, your notches are way too far apart