#design contest chat
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Who the heck you ar-
Oh my it's Fusion again.
But it's the centre piece!
It's a FUCKING CROWBAR-
I know
for jack hammer i dont like the shape
It just stands out like a sore thumb. Rest of it is good tho
There's a word in Georgian to perfectly describe the feeling I felt when designing its shape.
Very close to passionate.
I was so proud of the way it turned out 
itβs got no fades on it too
these
Which ''these.''
also I thought we were talking about the one with a red side
crowbar
Yeah because that one looks a crap ton like a jackhammer 
Yknow, these
"haha" aside, I thought yours were pretty neat, I liked powerdrill.
You have a lot of interesting shapes
Thanks.
Yours was great too, I personally voted for Obama
WHAT
Autofill?!
Are you okay?
It is just a circle, with a protruding line
I meant, I personally voted for Flare as well.
Even here, your american politics seep into
I will not state who I had voted for, but I do guarantee this, it was not you
Okie π
Orbamma
Obamna prism
I wonder who is running for president in each of the cosmoteer factions
Lol that's a good question.
But Impperium is probably having an emperor or some other leader like that.
Cabal is having a religious leader most likely.
That's a megalithic tomb if I say so
And Flinge - no idea.
Isnt imperium a democracy?
You forget about the CEO of the monopoly
I feel like imperium would be a fascist democratic state
Yeah you're right, I kinda almost forgot the lore but I remember something about it being controlled by the people? Still they'd need a leader and not sure it'll be something like a president.
Hmm one of the ideas ever.
y r u typing vore so much :rockeyebrow:
Ever watched starship troopers?
Yeah, I've watched the original movie twice I think, but I remember it very very vaguely. I was like 8 when I watched it.
Very long time ago.
All I remember is that it was one of my fav movies back then.
Its a critique of fascism and militarism, and the governmental system they use is a form of fascist democracy
Together with the second Terminator.
I certainly don't remember THAT plot point
Its both a fun movie and also an effective critique of the concepts that the book tried to push. Which is cool.
Mmhm
I need to go anyway see ya.
π
Most of them don't have presidents in their political structures
Yeah, I don't recall making an obama-shaped craft lol
xd
For the next design contest, We've got to get someone to make one
il do it just remind me to
I really dont know what to say...
I wish my ships could still have their own color scheme but if I do want it to fit more in the fringe, I color swapped it like these...
Which is better...
keeping in theme, My last contest ships with Fringe colors...
Try muting the red
How to do that...
Like make it look like old paint that has been baking in the sun for 40 years
The thing is bro...
I dont know how to do that...
hahahaha
There is some Fringe that isnt broken paint though so Im going to bet to fit on those...
I dont wanna save it in my ship library the non Scrapyard colored ships so Ill just send you the whole save...
Here you go...
This Looks good...
so you could just save the paint scheme then load it to the other ships right...?
this is the red i use
9E3830
just play around with the color wheel until it looks right
I really dont know how to do it...
hahahaha...
you make it sound so easy...
i literally move this thing all over the place until i get a color i somewhat like and slowly tweak it
go left and it will desaturate the color and go down it will make it dark
if you want a specific color u can just google the value
here is the ship i changed the colors
so u can save the scheme
Thanks...
Looks rustic...
nic
Here is the Rustic Series then...
All thanks to you...
now your fringe still has a hint of red
Thanks Dude, I appreciate it...
Im going to fix this to make the skull more prevelent...
this is the bleached one if you want to try it
this one does look like it has been sitting on the moon for a while
Is the skull seen now...?
this looks good but the problem now I have is the skull...
its a bit better
Here is my final tweak of it...
your older ships do alot better with the bleach
the newer one cannot use the bleach
i should swap the red with the other one
Will do, but for now lets wait for the Architects first...
I dont wanna change the colors up until they say so...
maybe My color is just okay...?
hopefully
here is me praying...
hahahaha
These look good imo. The more "traditional" Fringe colors also fit well. I think the original scheme is a bit too saturated, mainly a lot of red which is usually only a highlight color.
Then what Kine did makes it more fitting for the Fringe aesthetic then...?
will this fit in the game if I just copy paste the entire color scheme...?
I'd probably vote for it. Don't know about the others architects.
Thats one hell of a courage boost to me...
Thank You...
Hows this look guys...
does it look "fringy" enough...?
Green and red is not a good scheme imo, otherwise looks fine.
Also not a fan of the large sections of the same color on the left one.
i wonder what has even pulled it off well
is there any color combination you could tell me...?
I really suck at color theory...
The issue is that they clash so hard, beyond compare really. Most of the time people deviate from the red or green to colors that don't immediately go for each other's throats, like this that tones the red to orange
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/yJl3K9
This is a true example though
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Qr0xrZ
A quick painting of an SamuraΓ― made between commission, hope you like it :)
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About the left one, I had to make large sections so that the soul of the ship stays, It was supposed to look like a giant floating skull so I made more white colors to emphasize it...
Look it up on YouTube there's tons of people who explain it better than me
Ah ok. I don't think it's worth the sacrifice.
The previous ship got its shape because of the skull so I really had to keep it...
If you could have tips and tricks to add I appreciate it...
The right one isn't as noticeably 2-toned as the red/green one since the base paint is all a similar shade. Try porting the rustic scheme you/kine posted above.
Btw Oneye, I really wanted to show this to you and I just didnt had the time but your work on the Med Cabal Arms Depot made me make these 360 cores...
It was truly revolutionary...
will do...
Glad it was an inspiration!
This is what it looks like with the Rustic Color Scheme in Scrap Vengeance...
π Mind if I have the ship file?
Sure...
This is the Scrap Vengeance with the original Kaine's Scrapyard Color Scheme...
Now, another Problem...
How would I paint this to keep the zombie face in...
hahahahaha...
Here's some ideas. I think you'll need to change the paint itself though. Use all 4 colors everywhere. The parts of the ship that only have 3 sacrifice a lot, it kind of feels like they're sent back to classic. Another point I'll make is that you should probably reduce the number of vertical lines.
Thanks...
Could I just use the 2nd ship here as the current...?
because even if I could not show the white skull, it does look like a terrifying mask...
Its really hard to pick where to start on what you did Oneye...
they are absolutely gorgeous... I just wish I know how to pick colors myself...
Taking out some lines in the middle gave me this open section to work on...
I liked how the red and white lines up and the way the upper cheek bones mesh together...
I just dont know if that will be passable...
Looks better π
here is my progress...
is it good enough with the color change...?
Out of all the 4, the middle one is what I made...
this is the middle one...
Still some vertical lines that could use some variation in the middle. As for if it'll get in you'll just have to wait for the architect vote.
Thanks, as much for the votes, let me just fix them all the bunch before sending them to the review board...
the last contest submission ships I made which are these had shit paint, so as they won I need to fix them first...
For the mean time, I do hope the Architects love these ships...
π When you're done post them in #1081651425999863949 message
Yup, will do...
The only problem I have now is Kaine's Wrath and Scrap Wraith...
Here is one of the winning ships I had that time...
Crusher as Walt's Pick...
This is already the Fringe Color scheme...
π
does this fix the vertical issue on the top...?
Looks too much like a checkerboard pattern imo. Do either or for a given region, not both.
the better updated version of hatchet and ratchet
Whats better...?
Btw this is one of the current problems I had, is this cool...?
Neither is what I was thinking of. I should have said blocks of color, not lines.
Noted...
Not bad, but again many vertical lines for your highlights and shadows.
this cuts the vertical lines...
but gives it blocky shapes...
let me just lessen them...
In case it helps: I tend to paint the opposite way around from you, starting out with the blocks of color, then adding the highlights, then the shadows. It's easier to make interesting shapes when you're not constrained by fades at the time, and can just find ways to fit them in after. Notice how almost all of the "plates" (blocks of color) on these ships have a bend halfway through, or a wedge on one corner, or are entirely slanted.
Anyway, this probably should have moved to #ships a while ago...
I see...
I just make shapes first as it makes it easier for me to see the general outline of my work...
I havent been this artistic to make shapes that sprout out the colors...
I mean basically you're just filling in the shapes first instead of outlining them, but it's less restrictive.
Btw, phenomenal use of fades, I havent thought about using the plain block as a form of fade but the way you shadow them is superb...
im posting this here because edit's slowmode screws me over and i fear that pasting the link will corrupt the ship.png
Yup...
one of the reason why my builds look like a jumbled mess...
Nah you're good
it still not the standards for architects...
I actually dont know what I did...
And I came back to doing more fades on the engine...
here is the correct color...
FWIW you've already improved considerably since your last contest submission.
Anyway, I've got to go now. Maybe one of the other architects would be willing to help.
Thanks for all the help...
And I appreciate the encouragement...
Thank You...
Here is my Current Progress...
I think they are great in their own right but what do you guys think...
Let me just do that then thats enough cosmoteer for the day...
Scrap Vengeance now has Blue Eyes instead of Red...
There is only one Walt's Pick this time...?
i guess so, but its the whole fleet
Damn, one a lucky guy...
does walt-pick overright archetics approval 
No, Im still replying even if they couldnt see...
I feel like the blue/purple clashes with it
good question, im not quite sure. i suppose you could ask in #ask-walt
i bet walt is as lost as us
Nah, remember that My ships was walts pick but didnt get in career...
that could also just be the result of nobody knowing how to actually handle official contests in modern. though you make a good point
i wonder if any of my ships last contest even made it in
As I remembered, walts pick technically won but still need to go through the Architects to be in career game...
i would need to
-won the vote
-won architect approval
tbh i don't think i would make in
The architects already told you that your ships are too OP...
you need to lessen the nukes dude...
Some ships were turned down because it literally breaks the career progression...
i have 5 more ships that dont have nukes
helloooo are you looking
Send me the ships again, Im currently multi-tasking as Im playing valo...
if i remember correctly , you get the chance to edit your ships for another shot, though i could be wrong
huh
You could, Oneye just said to me earlier that they would vote for them as we fix it...
Here...
like even if i lose the vote?
Paint...?
Thats the only problem I can think of...
or it's just if i won
cuz that double wall who block me 
but you won the vote, unless there is another vote im unaware of or forgot about
and this guy
didin't i was 4th and waiting for the tie breaker for a signle of my ship rn?
4th by a single vote btw
oh, all 6 of the individual ship winners get to the architects no-mater the results of the tie breaker
i-- what?
its just to figure out the places, its more of a formality than anything really
You could ask the Architects if your ships fit the respective factions...
funny
real of the century of all time
It's alright, I'm used to it...
Most people when meeting me the first time always do that mistake...
At least not Kane...
It's Kaine with a silent I so people gets confused...
would you prefer i add the galo? if its not that than im not sure what is missing/wrong
Oh wow how many conversations did I miss...
No need to be formal...
Its cool...
Hahahahahaha
So Much, I was even getting taught by Oneye earlier...
The highest honor.
Anyways, I don't get how's Walt's pick is a single faction, I thought Walt should've picked random ships he liked the best too. Congratulations to Umbral's creator though.
Maybe Walt liked the set so they picked it...
Mhm
0neye paint lesson
Sad...
same
What do you mean, we are in the same timezone and you were online earlier wth...
How's these @toxic ocean...
walt works in mysterious ways. on a more serious note, from what i can tell, there is no 'usual way' walt goes about choosing a walts pick
4 pings in a row mom I'm famous-
5
Okay
walt work in a walty way
sorry ping
its fine, im one of the -12 discord users that doesnt mind being pinged
Moaning face.
Quit slandering my Scrap Vengeance...
Hahahahahaha
Aww it's a happy face now.
Lol
But a sorrowful face.
it's trying to joke in a time like this
Probably thinking he didn't deserve to win the contest over others.
Not sotd
God dammit...
Hahahahaha
The D:
Yeah.
With the ftl lol
you killed the skull and replaced it with stupid faces
Well it wouldn't get approved if I leaved it as is...
And this is an improvement for me...
Fire the teeth...
Turn on the thrusters...
Guess i have to update crimsonbrace
How could he 
I can't wait when the station contest commences...
I already have my picks...
It was still there...
It didn't leave...
It just have more face paint...
Me too.
I wanna make a very unique station.
Rail Station will be the next on mine...
Maybe not its too big and im lazy
Kheper rework again
I wanna make a Monolith cross station with Internal spinners attached on all four wings.
Well, it is another that one Imperium ship...
So it will take a while...
All spinners will have rails.
Yup, that's what I'm thinking too...
It's just a cross on me though...
An X...
since people want it so much, i may or may not have the next official contest be the station contest. im not quite 100% sure yet, but i am genuinely considering it
The thing is, how do you limit the budget on that...
There is one station in game that is as close to what my Sun's Judgement at cost...
That's the Large Cabal Arms Station...
This is just as pricy as that one station...
thats for me to figure out
you are going to do a not so official event right?
Epic. I hope internal spinner compatibility will be added the next time around.
They said it may or may not though...
you could probably use that to test out the parameters
Also, just a contest with a single category where you have to build a single ship and focus all your efforts on it will be amazing.
Station contest already manages to uphold that front.
Feels like you are projecting your pain Nick...
if the break takes to long, yes, basically if i heard little to nothing by juli, i will probably hold an unofficial contest that month
jan flash back kekw
Yeah.
either juli or august
I swear I am still surprised how I didn't get completely burnt out when working on the workshop.
But I'm happy that the two ships I worked the hardest on made it in.
Well, I and Yuuki on Powerdrill.
congrads, both on not burning out and having the hard work pay off
Thanks.
I would submit my Sun's Judgement on the official contest so it may be added but I will still join the next contest...
You did it Bro...
Hm.
Even though you did it more.
I am not jealous though... UNLIKE SOME
Cring xsnow moment
atleast the big ones made it in
i still dont know why that one person voted us
the crown jewels of your set
hey thanks random person that i dont know
That's what's important...
Imagine if Rotten Core didn't win...
your awesome
if we can't make spinner...
Speak of the devil @toxic ocean...
i wouldn't bother with doing another all or nothing submission after that honestly
It's your chance to redeem yourself...
You said you didn't put much more right...
i mean if i made rotten core and it didnt make it in i wouldnt do another all or nothing submission
probably not moving spinners, but stationary spinners probably not 100% out of the question
Yea, it would just be a bummer and you'll feel like a mess because you dedicated your time and effort to not win...
i didnt do all or nothing this time around
i have ideas to not make explosive charge
And that's why I told you you can redeem yourself...
all i need is to understands if station have an AI
oh and also if it don't break the fact station can replace themself
crimsonbrace 2 for next time
You should make a rule for stations that it should only be movable as its spinning...
All thrusters should focus on turning...
70% budget on 1 ship
ill have to ask the basic info like this from walt when the time comes. like, before the first modern contest i had a whole list of questions like this to walt, the answers of which i based the rules on
gud
Based on in game behaviours, it has an AI, its just stationary though but turns it's main face towards the enemy...
im gonna try take most expensive submission next time
hey
Yeah that sucks.
wdym
aight im gonn fix this next
submitted it a while back and havent heard anything since nor has it been added to the design contest folder
so most likely rejected
maybe it will fit the fringe better than imperium

the original looked like this
dont look at the ion it is necessary due to the budget constraints of old design contest rules
π
This looks inhumanely awful.
im still amazed how this got walt pick
oh it remind me how the anzu was painted
i mean is painted
still not updated
that was the plan when i modernized it back then
they stopped painting imperium like this so maybe i have to change it to the blue scheme
oh yes blue
also the shape doesn't seem imperium enough
thats why im thinking of changing to fringe
Good luck.
Yeah, helped us pull off one hell of a clutch there
Too bad we don't know em
π
Poor immortal lost by a vote ;-;
Still a RNG
Mhm
freed up 1 layer of paint
not sure what to do with it
also emp at the back or frontal launchers
you called?
Yippee
My god
made by 10 yr old me (obviously not me now)
wait that was me who made this
How times change
Damn.
When did you even start playing Cosmo.
2017 i think
did fracture exist during 2017
i dont think prism exist in 2017
heyyy 2:1 ions
prism was 2018-2019 iirc
i dunno since i didin't care back in classic
i started early 2022 iirc and forgot whatever was added since i didin't care at all
check cosmoteer.net
i think i started around 2017, cus scrapmans videos was what got me into the game.
Nice
i was like late 2017 too
I came late 2020, so I am kinda late
we are boomers
you too huh
took me a while to actually join the community though, as it was pre mp and i didnt really use discord yet at the time
@strange mango, just keep me posted about the favor I asked...
This is just to remind you as you said...
@oak plaza just so that you are aware, non faction contest ships dont need to be rebranded to a faction
also walt already knows about the request, and from what i could tell, he is cool with it
Thanks...
About the rebranding, it just makes it easier for the Architects to accept the ship...
When it happens I'll explain...
im not gonna spill the beans before you do, but i will say that being secretive in a public chat tends to make people curious
It's kinda cheesy though...
That's why I'm shy about it...
I wanna surprise her first before I tell you guys...
That's the only hint I'll be giving...
hmm what color would mix well with the white
lots of colours work well with white, grey and black. as these colours are naturally neutral
trying to replace the grey
of the imperium? why not just copy paste from a build in?
oh, replace, i read replicate, in that case, another shade of red maybe?
like im trying to transition the white into a different color
perhaps you are right and i should do that to the red instead
not sure what works with black, white and red, other than either another red or grey
black and white are opposites, so trowing more than 1 other colour in the mix might be hard to work with, hence why i said either gray of another red, as these are variations of whats already there
this could help yes
also isnt this already 4 layers
yes but kine wants to replace the grey
lighter gray
going for an ice theme might be the best bet with what im trying to achieve
blue and white is a better mix than red
ice? light blues and whites as shine and or reflections are the go to
but ice is very hard to get right, as is any transparent material on a non transparent canvas
imo that too bright
im using this as my inspiration atm
you could just make a pixel art ice texture and use that as the paint, but the red seems very out of place
i got rid of the red completely
that looks tons better, actually
i dunno maybe go off-of this
no i like the slide clue of green
isin't that Icycold original paint scheme?
yes
aight gonna go look at cabals for transition
the 2 blue cabal ships in existence
but yea, this is very pleasing to look at. a colour scheme of 3 similar colours is very nice, and those types of colours tend to work really well
again maybe go off-of them
that is the 2 ship i spawned in lol
thats all for now gonna continue this some other time
i didnt think this through
im trying to get this accepted as a built in
fringe isnt ice
Might be a safe bet to start over with the mid section if your going for fringe
it doesnt have to be a faction ship
I think it's going to take alot more than a color modifation to get past the architects
still alot more things to do with it
how much is the aceptable limit of change tho
trying to keep it as similar to the OG as possible
the V1 that i submitted a while back hasnt even been added in as a classic design contest ship so i really doubt it will be any time soon
whatever you can convince the architects is the acceptable amount i guess
to give a clearer answer, i would keep the shape and either only add onto or upgrade the major shapes of the paint of the original submissions, but then again i cant speak for the architects
chonky but pretty
"convince the architects and you can have the world"
going imperium again is a possible path
i could also double down on the ions and make it fringe/cabal
although cabal might need too much change
Not really cabal
And formerly Atlas
this is so hideous
That's got a lot of potential though
most of my build be like
I don't mind painting it for you, I think the craft is perfectly fine
The thing that gets me is why are the ions flipped like that, the reactors are likely more efficient if you put them closer to the thrusters
Even with the shields up front?
I doubt those would be coming online again based on proximity to the front of the ship and distance from the reactor
I see...
u could move the shield closer down
Also, why not?
it suppose to be a rework for classic ship
and there is nothing left of thhe original at that point
or capacitor?
i mean near shield
yeah so make it another ship?
Mister Immortal's broadsider will perfectly fit these two.
Blue Cabal might be underrated, but you know what's even more underrated?
GREEN CABAL!
Also you forgot some blue Cabal.
The new Sirius looks hilariously awful.
Feels unfinished.
Stellar Needle just dropped
Okay that needle pun was stellar, you really nailed it.
walt have spoken :D
Thats literally what we were saying yesterday...
do we get told if a ship is architect approved?
or is it like the old paragon requests in excelsior
I think I heard that if the ship wins you get told if itβs not ready for career
You could submit a more fixed design if you are not confident with the winning ships entering career like what I did on mine...
Just make a revision and post it here...https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1081651425999863949
ehhh i didn't get told and i don't think it's in career?
oh I was thinking if this which got no clear answer
Any feedback...?
here...?
Both are good
Ill pick the new one then...
Here is the Fringe Version of the First Scrapyard ships then...
Very nice
Thanks...
The gap between the old one and new is so massive
Im slowly learning more tips and tricks...
should I pass this now to the resubmissions or should I wait for more responses...?
looks very fringy
Thanks...
Here is all my submissions...
Feel free to critique...
@strange mango I'm gonna withdraw of second place, since I don't admit RNG victory and RNG lose, decided by 1 vote in voting system, where every voter has >1-(2?) vote choice, what tends to tie between the best submissions, where determining difference can be intentionally/unintentionally created by 1 or 2 people. If I'm won first place, I would said the same thing.
Uh... your ships are kind of already being put into the game
What do you mean, is there really problem on your submissions when they all look phenomenal...
that 1 vote difference is actually a deciding factor because both you guys had made well done and splendid ships...
i still dont see how its rng
he didnt get first
The architect has spoken...
no take backs...
welp its too late now...
its an honor to have your ships in game...
I dont understand why Immortal doesnt want that...
I feel like not liking the means is an obvious problem to sympathize with
Btw @mortal cave, I had posted the newer rework of my current submission ships in the Design Contest Ships Edit just a minute ago...
Thats all...
A difference of 1 random vote can't be significant to me. The same could have happened the other way around.
Not really honor for me, because I can build built-ins like in quantity of whole packs.
I feel your side, that it would be a shame for 1st and 2nd to only be given a 1 vote gap but thats how a democratic vote is...
People genuinely voted for each as they loved the submissions...
That's "fine", but my choice is my choice.
that felt a weird flex but okay... hahahahahaha
Its just coming to my experience that winning with sport, even if it might seem insignificant to people I can be happy myself that my ships are in the game...
Some players do wish for that...
I respect that...
Its just a shame to not see your ships in game...
They are a work of art...
They don't need to be in the game to be art.
im just lurking watching as this discussion unfolds holding back my crippling amount of self-absorption behind loathing
You changed the colors and they do look better, but they still suffer from colors blurring together which kinda makes individual tiles the equivalent of beige, which is then chaotic enough to disrupt the shadows and further degrade texture. The color choices are an improvement but since you pinged me I'll inform you that I'm not going to vote for them
Yes, but it would be cool if right...?
He has a reason behind it
Is that a pass or not...?
because I really am struggling to think what color scheme to put in it to fix that issue you say...
Kine's Rustic Scheme they made for me which is the current fits "kinda nicely" as its not dark enough to contrast the shadows and show the other colors...
As Kine's put it, its like a sun bleached color scheme...
The rustic one and sun bleached are different themes fyi
If you read my statement you'd find that the color choice isn't the underlying source of the issue
but they still suffer from colors blurring together which kinda makes individual tiles the equivalent of beige, which is then chaotic enough to disrupt the shadows and further degrade texture.
again do please reading it is appreciated very
yup...
The red and white however, do not mesh, which creates visual noise
It hurts furthermore that the white follows a chaotic marbling on the red
So even if it looks nice zoomed in, that visual noise is disruptive enough to also disrupt your hard shadows
does this color work...?
this is the Color Scheme Oneye provided me...
or the lines really are the issue...
It's better, like I said, but when I hold my phone at arms length I can only recognize the bar on the right as being higher and the deck gun platform on the left as being distinct
i'd say less details
okay I get that...
makes it more whole and less noisy
So lessening details is the solution...?
Saying "use less details" subverts the cause of the problem and doesn't teach anyone reading why or how the issue occured
oh right im not an architect
yeah ill leave you two to do your own thing that i am too unqualified to do
I really am screaming right now on how messed up I am in...
I dont know where to start...
I dont understand anything...
I guess the issue is the line clashes with the shadow making the 3d effect less noticable from further away
Hmmm, I guess you are right...
Thats what i intrepret from what saris said
As others have also pointed out your soft details of the lines and hard details of the shadows clash (interrupt each other) and ruin any illusion, just turning it into random colors instead of texture
Am I speaking a different language I'm explaining this as simply and coherently as I can
Its alright...
I dont know what I did...
took off some lines that are messing with the shields and blasters...
kept the middle section and then kept the lines from the mid to the base section...
Does that mean
a miracle
if that the end choice
Nvm im still 6th in individual vote so no ship fr me
poor kine
I think Ill give up on pleasing Saris...
HAHAHAHAHAHA...
My small brain really cant comprehend the things they said and Ill just bet it all that it gets green lit as Fringe is messy...
hahahahahaha
If it doesnt, then Ill work on it for real now...
right now I need to focus on my exams...
Five these days for reasons, but yes
When there was six the arrangement would presumably be 4 votes or bust
yeah cosmopyr leave?
3/5
I guess one way u can go about it is "is this possible to be turned into a 3d render"
Why do you have to be like this with me Saris...π π π
Thats what saris said about nick's paint
I mean if you look at my ship, it looks like an amalgamation of stairs and platforms...
the way blasters are at the bottom, shields on top and an upper structure...
It's what I say about everyone's paint if it's just colors haphazardly placed it's functionally a flat canvas, which is unimpressive
If it's any consolation I'm working on a tutorial...
:thumbeline:
Thats enough cosmoteer for the day...
I need to chill...
oh i thought its 1-5th only
elmao i was the one person who voted
i voted both fusion and immortal but preferred immortal's ships
well yes and no, technically, previously, snow and kommandant shared both fifth and sixth place, i just worded it as shared fifth plase
me
very rng based i admit
totally understands immo choice
im likely gonna use another platform for votes in the future anyway, as google forms doesnt display all the names propperly when there are too many options
you did that
i did not voted since i thought it was too unfair 
well crap 4 ship tie breaker it can go to anyone
Happy Xsnow
what would the result screen look like
we can test
i see, ill consider it, though it may be more complicated than its worth
i put in som random votes
idk if this is better than the usual one
its legit the same but can determine how much u like a certain set
not sure if that is useful unless want to do a point system
wait my ship don't have an airlock
ur the one that suggested the airlock rule bruh
feel free to use https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1081651425999863949
and if i had the rule i would have remember
do we have a limit to the update?
i mean-- number of time i do a small update
do i just delete the old post and make a new one?
i think you can update the ships as many times as you want, just dont spam the edits thread
do our ships all have an airlock
good
my only issue is where to add airlock here 
on the "wings"?!
as for money could just remove more internals armor on awful tears
wings or behind a rotated cr?
send ship
ez fix
?
fine i'll scroll thru submissions channel
sorry what?
salephz is asking for the .ship file, they want to help
very good idea
bruh u say the entire name?
anyhow xsnow is running out of money
seems pretty hard to buy all those airlocks
i mean he shows it publicly
no i'm fine got alot of armor to shave on the big boi
(awful tears)
like really
both options are fine, its just a matter of opinion
What the actual heck happened with Immortal taking back the second place win?
Like WHAT?!
Why!
@oak plaza Looks like Xsnow was shitting on you for no reason and Satan answered his curses XD
Still though why'd you ever do that @tribal heath, I am genuinely confused.
what i've taken away is that:
he can put out built-in quality ships
he didnt really care/want about his ships getting in
he just wanted the role
i mean he got close
he's a mature but more extreme version of me
But yout ships were built-in quality too.
thats neat
Honestly I'd be very content with a first place tie.
we're talking about immtrm not me
Screw that one person who didn't make it happen.
I know I was as well.
xsnow said it was them
its not any one person that made the tie not happen
also fuck you i wouldve lost first
Then double screw him XD
Hmm?
Blake said first category WOULD have ties.
So you wouldn't've lost fuck you back.
i dont think i ever said would, maybe i said could somewhere though
so i wouldve lost fuck you back
stop it with the cursing please, even as a joke. someone may take it the wrong way and start some real argument
Yes you would have and not like you didn't deserve it for your extreme pettiness and self-discouraging!
It's annoying at this point.
At one moment you say "haha my ships suxs bollz lol" and then you say "fuck you your opinion implies I would not have gotten one of the biggest podiums this community has to offer!"
Like CHOOSE ONE DUDE
Just go to DMs if you guys wanna have an issue
we're just having a friendly argument on "if that one person didnt vote me i would've lost the tie breaker"
In my opinion, current voting system cases so many ties/close-to-tie situations (just see at Avokado's and Yugi's submissions with 14-14) , when people can literally sit on two chairs (five?), without long thinking who to give the vote to, because they can give it to several submissions.
last time people wanted more vote options, now you want less? im trying to please everyone but you all are not making it easy
How many vote options was in previous contest?
3 and 6 for each categorys respectively
It explains bigger gaps between places in previous DC.
i suppose so
i never complain abiut anything but the last two contest i had too many votes
dunno WHO complain bout not having 'nough
nor mayb e it's just me who's too strict 
you are free to complain if you got any problems regarding how i host contests, i aim to improve with every bit of feedback i get.
ik
but i guess there will be less vote options next time
:thumbeline:
less votes might be better
i mean, sure
There isn't going to be another contest until the procedure is significantly improved and worked on, at the very least
Collab submissions be like:
dont worry, ive made that very clear
Just making sure, because last time you decided to proceed anyway
yea my apologies for that, its just that i didnt feel great about canceling a contest after it had begun
And no single vote for me, it's so amusing.
what are you going on about? you got second place
the role matters more to some
Sometimes there is only one winning spot.
The way this discussion has been proceeding has been exceedingly caustic, I'm not really a fan of it. If you have an issue please raise it in a detailed post, but the constant jabs at one another leave me extremely unimpressed
Issue of currently voting system in that people have so many voting options, an it decreasing worth of vote by single people. Instead of hard choice between best (in their opinion), they just can literally sit on two (five), chairs, without long thinking who to give the vote to. It tends to some submissions can have equal quanitity of votes (Avokado's and Yugi's 14-14 submissions for example). That fragile equality can be unintentionally broken by one-two people, and there simply won't be a strict tie-break. In voting system with 1 vote choice everyone would really have to choose, as in tie-breakers.
Then there's me who's fine with literally anything as long as budget is high enough xd
is this 1 for the set and 1 for the individual or not?
you make a fair point. it being a hard choice with less vote options was what made people want more if i recall correctly. both sides of the argument make some valid points. ill see what i can do about it once the future of contests are a bit clearer
1 for each category.
Yeah right, the amount of votes for sure make everything very close.
my problem with 1 for individual is that most of it usually gets taken by the winning set
People can vote for like hapf the people there are.
i dont think i will go lower than 2 for that reason. as well as the self vote problem with only 1 per category
i dont think self voting will be that big of the problem
maybe, but i rather avoid a problem than assuming it wont be a problem
the next contest will be alot larger since it may get an official announcement at steam itself
at that point the 1 self vote doesnt hold much value
if the next contest isnt going to get that kind of publicity then yeah its better to revert to the older 3 votes
confuseiminet
If you consider, that you would lost tie breaker, doesn't that mean that your win is provided by random luck? Not gonna to blame someone, just interesting point of view.
Thats kinda just how it is man
Votes will always in a way feel random
Youre free to give up your win for no reason if you want ig
if i host a design contest i would just make ppl vote on the worst 50%, eliminate those, repeat
Probably better, but also time consuming
Would take like a week to actually decide the best shipset
probably alot longer considering voting period is usually 1 week
i technically only submitted one ship and it gets added so technically its a win for me π
ehhh have 1 vote every 2 days?
idk maybe steam or discord user based
especially steam user based should prevent "double voting"
steam will reach more players honestly
i don't really like the process of a popular vote and would rather just have the architects choose but ehhhh
thats basically tyranny π
idk something like that
I dont think architects should always pick
Maybe another exclusive pick ontop of votes
thats also basically not democracy
yeah the architect has very high standards anyway so ships that doesnt win through votes has very low chance
architects choose what gets into campaign, voters choose what gets into dc folder
thats basically what is is rn isnt it?
as the architects need to aprove ships before they get added
Nah
rn it's win votes *and* get architect vote to be in campagin
Thats goofy
I mean architects almost never allow ships to be added, mostly cause they made the style so they dont want something even marginally different in the same faction. Which is fine, i guess. But i dont really want them to have a stronger vote cause of that
yea they already control what gets added in
I think avokado is literally the only non architect who had their ships added in right
so change to this? any campaign quality is chosen by architect, any "cool ship" is chosen by voters
quiximo
Already exactly how it is, but sure lol
oddyseus is by quiximo
True
i pirate music so my ship is a computer
but like especially the faction ships need to be to some degree similiar to the standard of the ships that the architect makes
Imperium seems like its less resistant to just adding whatever with a paint overhaul
thre is also another cabal ship that has a non architect credit
forgot who and which one
no? rn it's popular vote and architect vote for campaign, i'm saying judt change it to architect
What?
rn to get into campaign it's 2 steps: win popular vote then win architect vote
Architects already choose whether a DC ship gets into campaign
Youre saying to skip popular vote?
i'm saying to remove the first step
yep
Im sure architects would if they saw something actually quality
Its just that almost every ship that has genuine quality and fits ingame also wins popularity
ehhh if u make a boring small ship that looks like base game no one's voting for that
FWIW a bunch of ships from the last contest have been approved to be added to career, they just haven't been added in yet.
Cool
right now its community voted ships get passed onto the architects, who then approve or deny them
They dont look at every submission?
pretty sure they dont
architects do vote in the contest sometimes
but has no reason to review non winners
why not
though to be fair, there is a good chance this was the last time this system will be used, as for what it will be in the future, i dont have a clue
ποΈπΉπΉποΈ
Hit the aux
Hmmm
what does this have to do with contests?
well... it confuses pepol..... like the contest seems to be doing.....
also it looks cool
mate u trying to purpose break the rules?
well, if anyone has any questions or is confused about something regarding the contest, please feel free to ask me
I guess no spoilers as to which ones made it in?
π
Can't wait to not see The Rotten Core in the game ;~;
Woah, that's interesting. I was sure that no ships from the February competition were accepted when the spring one started
also it's a pity that Immortal withdrew, those ships were perfect
True.
I only wish to see my ships in game, even if I have to suffer reworking the paint on them all...
Maybe the next update, the architects will give the news of what's been approved or not
that shit is goated bro...
cant wait...
Yup...
That's it...
It would be strange to just accept n-place (even first), when voting system has problems.
agreed
but 'ill consider lluck an output of skill
I understand your protest, but as a player I just wanna see more cool ships in the game.
Bad voting system + no cool ships in game + L ratio
Work that has not won can be reused iirc
how did i miss the second tie breaker
2 of my ships are competing against each other D:
I have a feeling i would regret not voting but also will regret it if i vote
Oh nice
Rip lol.
Nice harvester made it in
Mhm
That one has negative chance of making it in campaign lol
Which one's harvester again?
#1091784501274869821 message
Ahh one of those fleshy bois
voted Revenant and Garuda iirc
also your submission be better than last time :D
goood job
@strange mango, could these replace the last contest ships in the folder or was it too late for me to say...
its too late to replace them via me, but the https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1081651425999863949 has no time limit
I'll fix my ships first before I Send them...
aright
put hours work into ship submission
win contest
complain about vote system feeling βrandom
pull out, essentially wasting hours of work
Kinda chad ig
Don't forget about wasting the hosts' time too ^^
i didnt really mind it as a one off occasion, though i rather not have it happen too often
I was specifically referring to me having to set up the voting procedure for the architects on which ships make it to the campaign
ah, i see
ah, make sense
Not that it was a waste of time, because I gained building experience, and that can be much more valuable.
You also made really pretty things that we cherished that will never make it into the game π₯Ή
when is the next design contest?
TBA
The architect and devs want to overhaul the rules since the current system is outdated
There won't be a next one till it's announced and the most recent one wasn't supposed to occur
blake told us multiple times they would host unofficial ones if ti take too longz
if by the time there are little to no updates i will either host said unofficial contest in july or august, im aiming for july though
What if I hosted an unofficial design contest?
no me
im not sure if thats allowed, specially with the uncertainty of the state of official contests right now. but if you want too take the commitment of hosting an unofficial contest, you are free to #ask-walt. however i got one planned already anyway so the timeline might get a bit overcrowded if your hosting an unofficial contest close or even on top of mine
I see
Blake you're so funny sometimes π
Happens.
for context: im so used to having the design contest chats open that i answered a quesion in ask walt
Yeah I see.
in my defence, the post above mentioned design contests
As you had said to
i think i just glanced at your post in ask walt and mis took it for this one, eitherway, it happened. next time ill double check if im in the right chat
i could delete this, but im not gonna do that because i rather be transparent than cover up a mistake in a dishonest way
is that meant to call someone out
kinda, but not really, i was just poking fun at people on social media who delete a post when it gets too much negative feedback and pretend like it never happened
??? Bruh you broke a rule why would you not delete it
no no, i deleted the actuall post in ask walt, i meant im not deleting the screenshot nick took
oh i could
watch
Thats way too much power for the tournament host role
its just in tournament related chats
other chats cant delete stuff
it has been helpful on a few occasions too
exactly what powers would the role give otherwise?
Making threads and accessing relevant channels
i belive there a bot commend to see a role key permission
dyno not helpful 
as far as i know, i got permission to the private host chat, posting perms to a few relevant chats, like events and tournament announcements, and the ability to delete posts in tournament related chats
i just rarely use the latter
@desert trail tails
@strange mango, Walt did and put it in...
Thanks Dude...
Anybody seeing the winning ships in the Design Contest Folder...?
its caled "release candidate" for a reason
I'm proud still...
Hahahahaha
y'know you're also a hypocrite
I don't actually know why you are saying that dude...
corpo woke up and chose violence
i am the most violent nice person here
That's not even my point for saying that...
Ang gusto ko lang sabihin kung nakita na ba nila yung mga ships natin...
Ay naku...
contest ship before this chat turns into roasting simulator 2023
Shit is very clean...
Have you updated to the release candidate though...?
I haven't been open yet...
no
im making a modded contest ship
Damn, I wanna see my ships in the folder though, I was gonna ask...
Btw Kine, now that Walt did what I asked the favor on Blake, I'll tell you about it right now...
ok
Have you updated on the release candidate yet...?
Oh, that's true
What is true...?
Yeah you can see that they've been added in the patch notes
Oh yea, it was in the patch notes that they got added...
i'm more excited about the new non-contest built-ins
I am as well
sad that cabal arent getting new ships
I got a early peek on Staccato as it was what Oneye gave me as a ship to try take some tips on...