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Bagger is certainly one of if not the coolest pieces of engineering the humankind has ever created, and it definitely deserves a highlight in Cosmoteer.
True
HULL COMPLETE!
Yeah.\
i think there's smth wrong w/ the assigns here
I wanted to have the first ever built-in with Mine Factory.
I haven't done crew management yet.
Just the interior and exterior hull shape.
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Visuals go first, thought putting the quarters up there would mess with this thing's looks and indeed they do.
With the mine costs being halved, rest assured, this thing ain't running out of ammo anytime soon.
...If ever.
*dies of logistics*
Not finished, 1.
I don't care, it's mines we're talking, 2.
Aesthetics, in this arrangement the exterior looks pretty, 3.
That mine factory exhaust pipe looks like it needs a missile
1.5mil out of 3.5mil and half contest 
i heard you have no penality for using not all your budget so... quality>quantity :>
What about quality+quantity? 
quality but in quantity 
@strange mango need to ask, but what margin of error can you accept for a ship price nearing a certain class?
#1091648368922595419 message its either one class, other its another, a ship costing 60000 is class 1, and a ship costing 60001 is class 2
im considering making this rule more flexible in future contests, but for now this is what it is
It's only 1mil.
+Resources aren't taken into consideration... As far as I'm aware.
?
Weren't you talking about my ship?
Ah.
as far as this contest goes, i have been taking resources in consideration when checking the submission prices and price classes
Yes yes they are... But when it comes to difficulty level it isn't.
r u sure
check out the new monolith ships (short answer: yes)
You fixed it?
139.920 is inside the price class limit of 110,001-140,000 (139,920 is the price of hacksaw)
Also, what was your opinion on my little.. modifications? I did correct the ship classes but I figured you would want to make final touches
its been the same since i updated some ships with clockwork paint
i didnt know what to do
chip was like 160k something which is in the size class 6
i dont know how blake connected hacksaw to being a 6 when it has always been a 5
dyno became high and forgot to unmute
Lol
the only problem we have to deal with has been and has always been big ships
they're just intercepting eachother
how in the hell are you gonna fix the larger set
I kinda already did
They are in their own ship classes now
Change of plans.. I gotta make updates to our most pricey one. Il send upon completion. Even though its already class 14, Just some paint issues to fix (mainly at the front and covering the FTL systems)
im pretty sure it was classified as size 5 in the submission, but looking back at the chip in my library, you are correct. i think it was a combination of tiredness, dyslexia and the wrong class in submissions that caused this confusion, ill try to avoid this in the future by not doing anything host related past 22:00 my time
i will once again be unavailable for part of today, as im watching gonna be the mario movie in the cinema, ill still be available for a couple hours though
Crowbar progress.
looks good so far
Thanks.
collab?? :O
truly one of the ships of all time
pt 2 (literally 0 progress)
lol
Multi layer chicanery
if ur going to multilayer at least attach the hands to the arms lol
i like how the hands arent mirrored, makes it more goofy
also maybe flip one
using the fringe icon as actual fists is very creative, though keep in mind that faction icons are for the most part exclusive to their respective faction
rIGHT.
@desert trail please submit all your ships in one go, its a bit unorganized when a submission is split up like that. deleting previous submissions and resubmitting them later is allowed
(i know i said im not doing anything host ralated after 10, but im out of sleeping meds so i wont be tired until 4 in the morning, insomnia can be useful from time to time)
ok sorry about that i wasint sure if that whase something i was allowed to do, i dont realy have any internet left for today so il fix it tomorow if thats ok, i think i might remove a ship or 2 as well perhaps
I thought there was something in the rules about needing weapons on a submission
Both in reference to something with weapons
i think thats for weapons that need ammo
theares plenty of bult ins that dont have weapons
Idk if we're allowed to do civilian ships right now
Nope
@desert trail ^
blake said something about civs
yeah this
if mr. grant here is submitting for the fringe then i think its fine
right now, for factionless ships, its just combat ships, so weapons are required. but for faction ships, im accepting civilian ships too, this is not in the rules cus at the time of writing it was just standard for contests to be combat ships so i did not even consider adding a rule about it
I see
ive just noticed, @desert trail , you got two class 7 ships ( structure void and boxer), and duplicate price classes are not allowed.
which is a rule to prevent people from submitting around 60 small ships in a single submission
hehe 2 maximum ships for submissions
ah... i forgot to check the previous ones, il fix that now
you fokin wo' ma'e?
amazing
looks good
no resubmissions because over total budget
you still got a good amount of time left, a little under 2 weeks
ah, my brain saw "time" and made a connection that wasnt there i guess
you at 22:00 again?
nah, just a dyslexia moment
though i did not sleep the best last night, so you might have a point
If you have any suggestions for what we shield modify, I would be glad to hear them
I won't be back till like 4 to check ship prices
let me optimize :D
Unnecessary
Can Ai even use mines? If not that mine ship might break a violation of a built in needing human imput
Only in weapon fire range (90 degrees, 150m)
Hmmm
I think yes, it launches a mine whenever an enemy is in range of the wonky arc.
Also, streamliner exists :)
I'll add that mines should only be used if they can actually fire when set to "fire at will", so facing the enemy. The rule has historically been to not use mines at all since the AI can't use them in a targeted way, and Streamliner is just a special case of where it's actually possible to get it to work.
Cool.
I added mines onto one of my entries (The paint is just Yesterday's Lie lol, it's not finished to say the least) only because I want it to be immune to being outflanked.
A small ship goes in the back, it gets wiped by a random mine.
That's fine as long as it stays on fire at will ๐
.....Thanks.
i think it would just dump them all somewhere when it gets loaded and not do anything
Well if you make it sustain for a really long period of time...
No, that would not
Alright
What we don't want is ships dumping minefields places and people running into them at 8x speed, or best case scenario they despawn and are useless. This is why they have to be able to be used in a targeted way.
I fucking love this guy...
A broken station ship...
No, absolutely not. In Classic that was only a thing because mines had infinite ammo, now with limited ammo and even more limited time mines have to exist, mines will run dry in mere minutes without doing anything at all.
Lol the paint is just a placeholder. I was simply messin' :)
Turned out really high quality though.
On other note DAMN, Astrum's submissions are golden.
Yes they are...
I especially liked that their ships have similar shapes like Anthraax's last submission...
Pretty much yea...
Reminds me of scale progression of some old competitive missile barges.
Weird analogy though.
Well now I wish to make Marigold Reborn in that way now too...
I will do that when I get to play next...
Kinda busy in college atm...
Hmm good luck.
When I move into the new sector or if I could in the current one...
I would like to make Marigold Reborn a big ass flagship that only uses flaks and PDs as its main weapons...
Could have some EMP missiles but nothing else...
i wonder if we should include hacksaw
we're overbudget by 188k
because there still isnt a maximum of 2 ships of the same size class cmon blake get on it
Do you make ships first then look at the price then...?
When I build, I always look at my price then see if there is no price class that overlaps...
elmao i didnt even check
Hahahaha...
Such a shame...
I would want to see both of them though...
In the competition...

It's your fault then.
I constantly stare at the value of my ships when building.
Literally ALL THE TIME.
i am considering removing or changing this rule, but not mid contest. then again im not sure if the rules will stay the same or will be completely different in future contest as i was not included in the discussion on the future of contests
worst part about it is that last contest i did constantly check the table ๐
Hmm.
This rule is kinda needed though.
No such restriction is VERY ABUSABLE.
got too carried away making ships and painting them
I wouldn't like to see 60+ difficulty ones submitted.
yes, i mean, changing it to a maximum instead of only 1 per
2 might be good enough
might be
i dunno im not a host things would probably go awry if i was
Even 2 per size class is a little pushing it, any more than that is just daft.
yea, its definitely not going to be more than 2
hehe shit
im thinking something like "you are allowed to have 4 duplicate classes, with a maximum of 2 per class"
According to my very very messy calculations with 2 per size class you'd be able to submit a theoretical maximum of 18 SHIPS.
THAT'S A LOT OF SHIPS!
Funny thing, this isn't even a theoretical hypothetical maximum!
You're left over with spare ~270000
to use to your heart's desire.
Plus for resource prices.
i mean 'just 2 sets of 2. no more dupes than that'
I know it sounds absurd and almost nobody would be willing to do it, unless they have a few loose screws (LIKE ME!), but still, there's nothing stopping people fro-
OH!
That's smaaaaaart.
great to not fuck you over with your inability to check stuff
but not enough to the point of spam
exactly
Yeah I think that you should be allowed to submit 2 ships of the same class at a time.
Still exploitable though, with that rule I'd be able to make calculating noises
[Lol I had this comment lying around on the chat box of my Laptop for like... A WEEK]
which one
Nothing, I just got awarded with a laptop quite recently (Like a month ago) for finishing classes 7,8 and 9 on all very high marks (9s and 10s. Imagine like the same as American As and A+s). Was never expected that would be a thing, but it was a nice surprise. Oh off-context.
aye 3 ship team here
Damn... Did Saris help you paint?
No lol.
Already said, it's just Yesterday's Lie copy-pasted.
I suppose he did help me if you get what I mean ๐
Huh
Restriction should scale with price imo
Class 12+ shouldnt have overlap restrictions
Yeah because it's harder to overlap them with broader possibilities.
Everybody gangsta till somebody makes 2 class 16 ships and a squib.
Oh wait you no longer need to have a minimum of 3 ships, oh joy.
i think 2 things that'd help with mines is makeing the targeting range (the red semi circle) longer so thay have time to launch, that and bringing back infinite duration
since at the moment i think the range is lower than disrupter
storing for later use
its called delay you impatient sack of shit
yea, please chill with the insults, other than that, valid submission as far as im concerned
this is what the cabinite looks like so far
youre not in off topic
lovely woodwork though
just need to finish the drawer and the door
again, this is not #off-topic , this is #1059084974655033415
@vernal lance You could've turned on fancy lighting effects for the submissions to make them cooler at least 
They're really cool nonetheless though.
Brassy.
It's alright, lights or no lights, corrupts touch- ups speak for themselves
my mystery virus was covid :(
what's that gotta do with the design contest
yes
i wonder if my lazyness will beat time attack 
sorry to hear that, ive said this many times at this point but, dont let a contest get in the way of your health, recovery before some silly digital competition. if you think your fine to keep going, im not stopping you though
mhm
probably just going to submit the ones i have done and not do any more after that
aright
Hope you get better fast, cause rona' sucks
Corona sucks, indeed.
Would anyone happen to know how to make the AI target a specific part, like only targeting reactors? One of the ships I plan to submit for the design contest works best if it only targets the reactor
sadly i dont think you can do that i think the ai just targets important things in a semi random order
so like reactor, control room, (cant reach) [target] close weapon...
something
That sucks, because the AI can "use" the ship but it consistently loses unless it targets the reactor. The ship in question is this one, my 1.5 million
Unfortunately not, currently the only thing you have control over are it's attack defaults
(Distance and angle)
yea, its unfortunate, however from a contest perspective i still count it as usable by the ai (because i dont feel like banning ions would be the greatest idea).
Could we save an Ion ship that always fires their beam even if not in combat...?

Nice
*Aesthetic in PvP cringe.
Fully comprehend what I say before making a big deal around it.

Especially the unpainted white boxes
Oh right.
aesthetic beats 10/11 pvp players though
Out of context moment
if i may ask, what has this to do with the contest?
funy
Air just knows that this place is filled with aesthetic lovers and him sharing an out of context shot of what looks like me trash talking aesthetic ships would cause a lot of conflict, which is of course the most hilarious form of entertainment out there.
indeed
Progress?
mine but better
everything feels very red
also i think the purple would be better as just darker gre/ay?
Yours is cheaper and probably better dps and less squishy
but it looks less good
Lol true that's my achilles heel, I can't let a ship look bad even if it makes it strong
The right one looks really neat
Yeah it's a really funky shape, don't know how to paint the back
But it's pretty strong
From the front
I did it in Doors painting style
I'm probably going to revert it to mine
well
other than 3th layer bearly visible i love the left ones
ah, in that case, please do not intentionally try to start a conflict, specially dont take something out of context to make someone look bad. if anyone have a legitimate problem with another participant, DM me directly, and dont try to make a scene about it.
and of course, if you see someone break a server rule, ping a mod too
you made a more powerful caladrius
?
3th
Oh wow that unfinished one on the right...
Baesra or whatever it's called but bigger.
3th XDD
Yeah basically
It was my inspiration
i can't make a ship weak if it makes it look good lol
lol
Paint supremacy
Vanta black superiority
the right 2 very nice
Too much money and yet zero b**ches.
HOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT IMMORTAL'S SUBMISSIONS ARE UTTER PERFECTION WHAT THE HECK-
Hiw does one this casually drop four masterpieces.
Certified gigachad.
No bothering ya'll we already have a winner ๐
Well, corrupt and I may not win, but we have a chance
Damn, those Broadsider Orbiters are gonna sweep the floor on this one...
Those orbiters are insane, I need to hurry up and calculate resources for my ships
no we're definitely not winning
You say that in jest, right?
Stagger for reference is one of the best contest submissions I've seen in some time
as in overall, firstplacethingthatfusionwashopingfor kinda mean
i dont think just stagger is gonna lend us first place
I disagree that missing first place means losing personally. I feel confident that Stagger will make it to the campaign which really is quite the victory in and of itself
you are not required to use all of the budget, you can still submit these as is.
Agreed.
As for me I'm pretty sure we're not gonna make it in the top 3 as some new participants this month are truly beastly.
So many phenomenal submissions.
If one or two of my proudest ships [Especially if Yuuki will do a good job painting some of my unfinished ones] will make it in, I'll be still very glad.
Immortal's Orbiters will be a hard contender to beat...
while all we have that is unique is a ramming broadsider
On a way less interesting note, here's an updated conceot art for Powerdrill.
That's all I'll skidaddle now-
elmao we are not gonna get first place for awhile
there is no damn way we'll ever get the funny role
Aww.
Second place was still pretty damn cool.
But now, tifether with Avocado, we have to contend with Immortal...
This top 3 is too small for both of us!
Yeah Astrum and Kaine are dangerous as well.
idk I prefer corrupts ships
Yeah I love them as well. Slightly inferior Door knockoffs are still phenomenal, goes to show how amazing Door is.
i thought you were off-brand cabal with your ion cores and stuff
the fuck do you mean
hey man, if he likes the results don't question it lol
They are quite beautiful, il say the least
If I didn't know any better, I would think he was vilda in disguise due to that high paint quality
immtrm is vilda alt real !/1?!11/?/??
Eh they're a bit too boxy to be vilda
if anything Iโm a discount Cabal that you find in the trash can in a shady neighborhood
but that doesnโt mean I have to hate ships just because they donโt use ions
i too am a knock-off thing (architect) you can find in the most desolate lands of the world
nor do I have to like them because they do use ions
Yes.
Yes.
Maybe Door Alt too Redlielne has Icarus written all over it.
Then I am a knock off noise generator you find in the depths of Tartarus.
is it a shared alt of door and vilda
Lol.
Redline is literally Absolute Radiance but better with quite a lot of Icarus added onto it.
Absolute Radiance but not shitty.
Idea of ion broadside came to my mind somewhere in January, when I saw Hymn of Radiance.
A bit boxy since modular broadsiders, maybe could be a less blocky.
Honestly the blockiness makes the Redline look cooler. I mean Cabal loves their sharp slopes as well.
The idea of Absolute Radiance came to me in late December, for me too, when I first saw Hymn of Radiance.
The first finished prototype dates back as far as the tenth of January, as proven by this conversation I had with Saris.
Older than both GK's Sidewise and Redline, no bragging :>
It went through A LOT of iterations.
Every version so far.
From oldest to newest, I hope.
Anyways, Redline is fucking EPIC and I'm glad that I got to see an infinite times better execution of my old failed ship's concept.
It's funny, I always imagined Absolute Radiance to have the same paint scheme as Icarus, ever since I finished it. Love how that coincidentally lined up as well ๐
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Redline is red because... Redline, not Icarus (all coincidences are random, I hope).
Mhm.
What was the inspiration for the name, Redline Hotwheels cars?
...But look how similar the schemes are!
Anime "Redline" (poster), name specifically
Some inspiring in name itself
I'm copied Cabal style without copying the exact details and simultaneously invented some new elements in style, I guess.
Cpp;/
?...
Agreed
*Cool. I wanted to type that but I guess I clicked every button one tile to the right XD
I was going to submit my ships but my confidence has been destroyed
Ah well who cares
๐ฅน
Mine too.
Oh no ๐
did someone say you get a role for winning?
yes
Yes.
always been like that
maybe I will build a ship or two
Literally listed in the rewards.
I havenโt read it since it doesnโt show on mobile
6 days left make it quick
I was ready to submit them back on April 6th... But I decided to wait
what should I make
Tbh since that date I remade parts of Mirah so many times that I lost count. So then it was a bit different ship.
And minor improvements on other ships
I'm kind of unsatisfied with the fourth ship
EMPEROR PENGUIN
im pretty sure that phones let you download txt files, it should appear somewhere in your file manager. maybe it doesnt work on all phones though, in which case, its better to use your pc
very enjoy the rest
(yes it'sd improper english dunt care)
๐
I havenโt figured out how to use anything I download on my phone so I never tried
well it should go without saying that one needs to read the rules to participate (i mean, if you somehow manage to follow all the rules without reading them, i wont stop you, but i dont think its very likely), i assume you got a pc, given you play cosmoteer, have you tried discord on pc?
I just forget about them when Iโm on it lol, I would of course read them before submitting donโt worry
aright, just making sure, looknig forward to seeing if/what you submit
Only one left to draw before my own submssion are all done.
Those look great...
Wait you can submit a ship for multiple factions at a time? Cool!
I'll just stick to my sinfular theme though, I guess.
hehe
people unintentionally give us hope that we'll actually win first place and then post their architect level ships
Yeah.
Okay I wouldn't say Yugi is that dangerous though. Yes they are very very close to what architects make, but nothing truly exceptional in my eyes.
Still really dang good, but not as good as you two's in my opinion.
i was talking about every skill aestheticizer that participates in dc
not yugi but they'rs are pretty cool
I will take all that as a praise since I wasn't especting me to do any better (I am not the competetive player to any aspect of my personality) plus this is my first time drawing faction ships.
Just asking: what does aestheticizer role means in this server?@vernal lance
You certainly have the right to say so (though my personal attempt favors Avokado more: the neat style is just my dish).
No rule restricts me from doing that I think.
Speaking of architect, the role is for the original authors who designed the factions right?
I wonder where can I ask for their advice or read their faction mannul or something.
(I am not eager to leave a name of "some great player on discord" by painting or competeting, but I would love to take some educational texts & files to CCC. The small community would need that)
(and @gloomy whale but i cant reply to 2 posts at once) multiple factions per submission is allowed, kine did it earlier this contest, i was just not expecting people to do it so there are no rules regarding it
Just post one's submission all at once right?
architects are people paid by walt to design the majority of ships currently in the game
yes
Paid? Top builders I believe they must be. Are they to good and too special to hang around in the server or they are just there but I don't know?
they chat in the server from time to time, and yes, they are really good at what they do
Ok. Anyone I may notice?
Asking in cause some day I meet one but didn't say hi.
anyone with a green name plus sariswinterwisp is an architect
saris, oneye u definitely have seen them
Got ot.
Ok.
Answer to your question is yes, Architects design built-ins.
I don't know where you can ask them fir advice though, I guess profit from them veing online :p
Hmm I see.
I would've appreciated if this was yet another pirate ship only design contest. We already have an oversaturation of other faction ships and we could've certainly has more pirates.
i mean, so far, people have been just pinging any one of them to ark questions
i see, i try to please as many people as i can, which is why i try to allow participants to be as creative as possible, which extends to me trying to be as flexable as possible, which is why im allowing faction ships now. but ill keep this in mind
sad truth is that its quite literally impossible for me to host 'everyone's perfect contest' as everyone has such different views on what it should look like
tbh we need an ion core based contest
You might be waiting a long time for that one
Just like you pinged me right now to ark a question.
to answer your question; it just means people that are really good in making good looking stuff
I'm sorry
Understandable. It's just that it will take years worth of contests to fill up a decently sized pirate roster at that pace.
And assuming you said there will not be any in a long while.....
Don't be sad, we are happy that we participated, even if we didn't win or there isn't no cash prize, the honor is ours still...
That's why I will improve upon The Scrapyard until it gets wins...
Or placed in game...
Career...*
For me it was perfect preciously as well and literally my only complaint was the lack of budget. THE ONLY COMPLAINT.
I just want mine to show up in the ship menu like the Feb 2023 submissions
Skill Issue...
Cringey.
Having your name in the credits is a big boost of pride...
true but I didn't think about that
have too much other stuff going on right now to really focus on getting submissions ready
@normal kite weapon themed contests? interesting proposal
@toxic ocean aright, if its more budget you want, i can do that (in future contests)
Hey, what we have is fun...
But real life stuff matters most...
You focus on that, and we are just here Bro...
skill issue
Station design contest...
thats on my to do list as well
Nice...
defense platform contest
yes
Yaaaay! Now all I have to do is hope I will live long enough to see this through ๐
Thanks lol.
good call, actually
Skill issue dee's big metal nuts.
Having a duplicate size class ship... Now THAT is skill issue to me.
I'd never drop down this low XD
You could even add hyperjump beacons if you wish...
But that's only doodads...
Capital ship design contest is and has been floating in my mind since forever.
would we want a size class 18 hyper-jump beacon
That's just bullshit...
You already know that it's supposed to be small...
ill have to look into that, im not sure if capital ships are a thing in cosmoteer, other than just large ships in general
Here's a simple Beacon Design...
BEECON...
i dont think having more than one hyper-beecon for each fac
ah thank you keyboard cable
for sending my message
Or if you want, we can even a contest for civilian ships...
piece of fucking shit
calm down with the insults
good thing i vote to not change budget i have too much
it just happened that he sent his ship the moment i say my message
still, calm down with the insults, as like right now, it can come across the wrong way
Kalma ka lang kasi pare...
(Just calm down Bro...)
I smell capitalism from its shape lol.
im not a mod, but in the design contest chats, i still urge people to keep it a friendly competition
Now that you mention it...
It does...
Nah he's good...
Its just he's impulsive...
He really doesn't mean it...
this may be true, but not everyone, specially new participants, may not know this and take it as face value
True, he'll calm down and be chill later on...
I'm just saying sorry for him...
btw, i was pinged quite allot just now, so if i missed anything, feel free to ping me again
Could happen. Getting a walts pick still enables your ship gets put into the roster
Even if it's the design contest roster, still smth to be proud about
They areeeeee
Why would the "Behemoth" classification exist then?
And "Capital ship."
Just above the message you pinned I also shared the full size class tree, even though it still isn't officially used to this day.
Saris gave it to me and I've seen some other people like moderators throw it around so I am 101% sure in its legitimacy.
at the time i was reluctant to use that table over the one walt gave me, but i suppose i can ask if its outdated
Isnt atm only all for now the only one with a higher than normal budget?
Nope.
Top grade ahips of basically all factions exceed 3mil.
Apotheosis 
Arbiter 
Voluntas and even Odysseus
just to name a few.
I meant... Just to name all of them.
All for Now is still the most expensive one though, clocking in at a whopping 3.6 million 
yes but most of them dont go alot higher than 3.1 mil
Oh..... sorry about that. Is the word a sensetive one to be mention here?
Voluntas is 3.2 I think.
you're ok, i was talking about someone else
it took me 2 minutes to read all that text
sometimes theres just a burst of activity in the chat
yep
Absolutely.
So relatable...
When the contest winners were announced thenchat was so shrouded in activity I had to read for 15 straight minutes and I was AT SCHOOL. And then I suddenly saw that my ships got second place and LOST MY SHIIIIT-
and i usually cause it because i am walking contraversy
btw are we still doing it like last time where all the ties are counted as a place or are we doing a proper tie breaker now
Oretty sure that Imperiumer can make it in.
It's quality.
not sure, but considering the absurd amount of winners last time, i am leaning towards a tiebreaker
*Controversy
*Pretty
idk we still have contestant that hasnt submitted also the one i think that might make it is harvester due to its uniqueness
But please do not forget how there are way more contestants this time, and higher quality ones at that.
but then again i think its novelty has already worn off
Hmm... I see.
this is true, which is why im not sure yet. in the end i might just ask the players again, i might even do that in the actual vote document
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im realising that gladius is a taken ship name @atomic flicker, would you mind giving it another name?
i was gonna point that out but i forgor ๐
thars only 41 ships you have a chance
Only 41
I can see it getting a walts pick yeah
But your other ships have higher chances for that, much higher
i submitted my stuff, now i'll disappear once again (all the ships existed before the contest though)
See ya...
I'm glad to see you participated though...
We will...
up to 44 now
Lol. Only time I've seen this being done is with my own Shamblefoul which at least recieved a recolor and a heavy update (Old VS new).
(New VS old sorry)
Red is the new one blue is the old one.....
Sure thing! Sorry for not catching that myself. Name changed to 'Falcata'. Re-uploaded it with the name change to my original submission, along with slight touch-ups/modifications to the two smaller ships (Pugio and Shard). Let me know if something else is incorrect and I will try to fix it as soon as possible.
maybe nuke instead of laser on the imperium ship? amazing paitn btw
MAAAAAAN.....
I am so busy with real life stuff right now and there's only 3 days left before the grand deadline. Couldn't even work during the (Measly 5 day) Easter holiday and the week after that I missed because I was sick, because well, I was sick.
I know I'm just annoyingly whining but that's all I can do.
And also hope Yuki finishes Power Drill in time.
And Crowbar.
Clamp is too expensive so it'll need a replacement.
Can I make it in time though and also finish the unnamed ship with placeholder name tomahauk?
Find out in the next episode of GRIEVOUS AND SID-
Understandable, that deadline is really creeping up and I need to gather the ship files. Had to literally scrap my 1.5 mil and replace it last weekend with a new 1.5 mil which took a lot of time
wait what
i could optimize clamp maybe
I had to cut out my 300k from the ones I plan to submit because it would put me overbudget
big sad
7 ships currently, they are probably compact enough to fit on a single screenshot, and some of them are just small
I have a couple of ships ready and I am definitely not going to make it before deadline
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when is the deadline
Mazeg
The day after the day after tomorrow.
may first
@gloomy whale nice ships!
Thanks!
I really like grumphy
I had one last to post but I don't have the time to paint it sadly. Going out I am and I will have no time to use my PC for days.
@tight tapirI love your ships too,
They are neat and beatiful in shapes which I love.
Aww, could we see it?
Thank you!
Just the ship.
My PC is getting out of power so I will say goodbye for now.
Okay good bye
yugi got a high quality line up
@gloomy whale grandice (which is titled incorrect in the submisson as another Selvanom) and Stonehansh are both size 9, you cant have 2 of the same size so you will have to remove one of them, ill assume you would prefer to keep the colab ship until you say otherwise, because it appears that you may not be online for a while.
@gloomy whale Woah mama your submissions are golden.
But I don't think you can really collab in a way that you get slightly helped on one single ship.
Even if it's not a slight help on the ship.
im treating it the same as last contest with your group and ion
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Excessive power?
Oh boy
Less long lines
More variations
Small details are pretty
Which sucks cause that's not my paint style either but
A bunch of repeated boring shapes looks better than a good shape around the whole ship
I think there's a better way to have those lines in the middle meet
huh
idk how to do the side bars
or the middle u
i have just described 90% of the paint lol
i'll worry about it tomorowo
Stop doing stripes
Observe Cabal ships and do what they do. Shamelessly so
Like you see the thruster sections? The ribbing that's inbetween the reactors and thrusters? Both of those I just straight up copied from one of Door's ships
every time i try to copy a cabal ship it looks ok and when i don't it doesn't D:
You have to be internalizing things as you actively practice
Going through the motions does of course help, but you have to be able to figure out why things are the way that they are so that you can reproduce them. You're not just copying, one is reverse engineering and learning
fair enough
but does i want a "generic" cabal style pretty ship or a unique style 
Cabal isn't generic...
wut
Also insert Tomahawk/whatever here I'm on phone right now :agony:
Screenshot moment.
Anyways, what is ya'lls opinion on this. Already got pretty positive feedback in #ships so thanks for that, but still. This is the place for DC submission feedback I think.
oh yeah that happens a bit
its not that bad
i like this one
Lol happens to me too, and only in this chat
And yeah, only on mobile
First time it has happened to me.
that is quite wierd, if it happens too much i guess i could open a new thread replacing this one, but other than that i dont know what i can do about it
if the chat breaks like that more often please do let me know
Nono don't do that.
Its a problem from discords end
It happens randomly in discord mobile
And not specific to this chat
i see, but avokado mentioned it being exclusively here in this thread
That is coincidence
good to know
Restart the app and it goes away so its just an inconvinience
From my end too.
The only time it has ever happened was in here.
I guess Discord really hates design contests..?
More than once?
Thats too small of a sample size honestly
Might be because this is still after all a thread but it's a thread with so much messages already written in it? Literally no idea.
Maybe, and hopefully.
I remember redstone breaking like that elsewhere before maybe he knows why
it may just be a coincidence, but if it keeps consistently only breaking here, do let me know
@strange mango What The first of May, the moment it becomes the first of May or at midnight when it's about to become the second of May?
12:00 GMT+2
basically all major announcements regarding contests happen on 12:00 dutch time, largely because its convenient for me to not have to stay up late for said announcements, as i have a tendency to mess up the details while im tired.
Okay.
it really doesnt matter when i do it, as its always someones 2 am, so i chose a time that worked best for me. a participant missreading something i say because its late for them is a much better situation than me messing up a major announcement because its late for me
i forgot to dm but i won't be at home this weekend and i have 1 almost finishedโข๏ธ ship
how many actually finished ships do you have? and could you submit them without the unfinished one?
i would do that if you still want a shot of winning, as a 2 ship submission is allowed now
ok
I am very squeezed on time and Yuuki hasn't responded yet with the painted Power Drill and Crowbar...
In the most critical case scenario I could submit without those few finished ships though.
I have a few that I made completely by myself, he's only helping me on the ones I felt I couldn't make by myself or at least not take hours upon hours to finish.
'Kay this is gonna be the last entry of the faction. I'm not sure if I'll be able to finish it in time.
stick
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Would a mines and point defense only ship be accepted? The ai can use it to a significant effect and it can last two fights without running out of ammo but I just wanted to know if there was any specific constraints still regarding mines
As long as the AI can use them when set to 'fire at will' you're fine.
Finish it I dare you, finish all your submissions or no balls...
May 1 is the deadline right...?
I just saw some paint problems on mine so I will fix that tomorrow...
Yes.
I physically can't lol.
Yuuki will hopefully finish his end in time and I'm basically done... But I alone physically can't.
Good...
Im thinking of doing a last couple minute changes and touch up to my ships and then submit them again tomorrow...
It's so good...
Hatchet is a great ship...
Hatchet?
That's Corrupt's stolen name ;-;
I have no idea what to name it.
Tomahawk is more of a combat tool and not an industrial one after which I'm naming my ships.
My bad, it was Tomahawk...
Its even I who suggested it and forgot...
Hahahahahaha
If you wanted to have ships themes with weapons we could do that next time...
Like Halberd, Morning Star, Lance, Glaive, Javelin, Rapier and the like...
file or chisel maybe?
(i used to carve in the past, so these tools came to mind)
Good.
I always imagined a blunt tool looking at this.
I thought of file but it felt too bland.
Why not name it Jackhammer...
Nope.
Speaking of Jackhammer...
ROT, DECAY, DEGRADATION.
THIS is the Jackhammer!
I sure hope I'll finish it in time.
Then just name it Mallet...
a chisel is not a blunt tool, its actually quite sharp
Yes.
Funny, I made this ship to replace Clamp which was too expensive to fit in the price range, AND JACKHAMMER IS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE :agony:
Damn...
Sad...
I don't wanna sabotage Monolith ship names.
They have a hammer set going and I'm sure Mallet will soon follow.
They already have Mjolnir, Sledgehammer and one other I think.
what is a gavel
if saris copy build-in i won't deprive myself of it
small mallet
even if i have 2 days left-- (geez guess that a even better reason)
The little hammer that judges use in a courtroom
deadline is may first 12:00 utc+1?
GMT+2
or GMT +1 for part of the year, cus the netherlands actually got 2 timezones that we switch between to make up for the longer daylight in summer
honestly, no idea, it happens automatically on devices so i dont even think about it, ill give a heads up when the last 24 hours start though. as of right now, theres a bit under 45 hours left
lets go I finally submitted my ships
Can't wait to see yours the individual ships I've seen so far look really cool
Hmmm
Thanks.
Very nice, good to see some diagonal builds...
2 class 11s
There's no diagonal better than marigold
someone didnt read the rules
wdym
no duplicate classes
Sad...
You have to either make one larger or smaller.
I agree...
Now I wanna make a diagonal starter...
alright the mine ship goes the other one stays
Good call, AI is shit or downright doesn't know how to use mines...
ok crisis averted the mine ship is back in the garbage bin
sad indeed
i have a big issue
this layout is not efficent (logistics themselfare good)
and little of 24h to fix EVERYTHING and add paint
wish me good luck
or i just go with it since without it i won't have a full submission
honestly i have no idea what to do
this might be one of those ships where you have to throw efficiency out the window and just go for the paint, it depends how long it's been worked on prior to this as well.
Lol I was going for a ship like that but I decided it was too ugly since I tried to make it efficient
Missile factories suck diagonally
are you telling me my ship is ugly?
methink it's more an issue of not being able to kite enough and being a barge
this on another note is very efficent
Yeah lol paint would make it better
...
Hey I think all ships without paint are ugly
rip +7 hours of work
but how do i fix the efficency issue
use more explosives
I just resubmitted mine and I wish the last minute touch ups and fixes can improve it even though a bit...
I have to wrap up the jackhammer NOW OR NEVER
And I still have a ton of work to do.
Nick's workloadโข๏ธ
Enjoy
- Managing crew and resources for all the leftover ships including the ones Yuuki is painting (He hasn't even responded with the painted ships yet).
- Making sure everything works fine enough.
- Testing their stress to see in case they're atrocious in combat or not.
- Doing actual combat tests.
- E X T E N S I V E L O R E
- Touch-ups.
- Attack defaults.
- Only a day leftover.
To add insult to injury I might need to go today.
Plus still have a shit ton of real life work.
regarding 1, if yuuki is not responding still, i would just assume they where too busy with live and not count on the ships they where meaning to paint to be done in time.
regarding 3 4 and 7, this is a design contest, minimum requirement for combat is basically just "can it fight at all, if yes, you passed the test". if need be, you can update the combat stuff after the fact but design should be the priority
regarding 5, lore is optional, and really does not effect anything at all, maybe you get an extra vote from someone thats intrested in the lore aspect of your ships but thats really all
at worst, you can submit what you have right now
I see.
Jackhammer is still the biggest thing I have left to do.
And I'm afraid I might be overbudget.
Currently too busy working with this mess.
I really don't want my ships to be rushed.
And I already almost lost my sanity when working on the January contest.
aye i have 24h to finish my paint
then i would have to think if it's actually worth submitting it
ive seen the progress posts, id say its worth submitting, they might not use all the budget but they look really nice
a shot not taken always misses
that if i actually finish it ๐
can i help with E X T E N S I V E L Y E M M E R S I V E L O R E?
ill allow that without counting it as a colab
I don't even have the faction name :agony:
I genuinely have no idea what to name them. So many concepts and all of them cringey.
the tool box?
Yeah I thought of that too, it sounds too mundane.
Tools Of Overal Terror, or t.o.o.l for short nvm, i pulled a dyslexia here
the giants/titans workshop
where did dyslexia
terror starts with a t, not an l
anyway "goliath's essentials"
The lore I came up with throughout the month is roughly as follows.
The guys behind these creations were once a thriving industrialist faction that were also menaces in combat, and made some of the most powerful tools in the entire galaxy that were used to construct a plethora of bases and megastructures (Slightly took that part from Door's ''Stellarchitects'' from the Classic game). The other factions would often hire them for help and that's mostly how they earnt their galactic strength. But after an unspecified disaster [And/or them getting plunged into corruption], the entire corporation was destroyed and all that remains from them millennia later is their old, worn and torn ships that can still pack a punch but are nowhere close to the mighty power they were before, enveloped by decay, rust and corrosion. Most of the remaining ships have been taken over by rogue pirates that roam the galaxy...
Yeah, that's basically it.
In the end, you'll pick Jackhammer...
i should mention that a faction name is not required, there are a bunch of submissions with no faction name
pff imagine doing LORE 
No.
It's still great to flesh out the submissions, it gives them character you know...
Yes but my submissions literally do belong into a faction.
Pff imagine putting effort and competence into your submissions ๐
hehe im better on individual ship lore
Yeah.
.....ะ ะฐะผ ะพะฒะตัะฑัะดะณะตั ัั ะ ะดะพะฝัั ัะฐะฝั ัะพ ััะฐะฟ ะฐ ัะธะฝะณะปะต ัะต-
Another keyboard slip 
*I am overbudget and yet I don't want to scrap any features present on the ship as I like all of them.
Hulp.
Hmm...
Okay no this one is amazing.
You know because these are titanit ctools...
*Titanic.
glad i could help
are you taking yuukis ships into account for the budget?
i dont give a shit about nuke fac lookin' cool put it down like its a rabid dog
like i said earlier, not responding for so long, this close to the deadline is not a great sign, i would assume that they just are busy with other things and submit as a solo. that should also fix the overbudget problem
Of course.
It's my ships that he's painting.
No
Insert every single no gif here
One of the hottest of logistical hot messes I ever had the displeasure of making.
Let's sure hope it at least remotely works.
;-;
Why is Blake writing a poem ๐
aright, just know its an option to submit what finished ships you have without the non-finished ones, yes it sucks to submit less than you planed but a shot not taken always misses
sometimes i struggle a bit more with words more than usual
Understandable.
I am continuously taking brakes from this thing because it's one of the most tedious things I've ever had to make. No idea why, but painting this is simply not fun, whilst despite being difficult and time-consuming, painting Shattered Anvil (โจ Yes it finally at last has a name now โจ) was a ton of fun.
i hope so too, your ships look really nice from what ive seen
Thanks.
All the finished ones so far.
Jackhammer, Crowbar, Wedge and Powerdrill will hopefully soon follow.
if you want i can include them in the votes if your not back in time to submit them
progress pic
i feel like i fall in the trap of overdetailing once again
or it's just i've been painting for too long?
deconstructers, decoder fraud, fabrication guild?
a certified ะพะฒะตัะฑัะณะตั ะผะพะผะตะฝั
sounds like a ัะปัะดะด ััะณั
Moonlite Glimpse jumpscare.
No need I'm back.
welcome back
@strange mango According to Yuuki everything should be fine and that he'll finish the ships in time. For now here's the progress update pic I got (I hope he approves me sending this here).
I'm hyped now and have faith back.
ah, thats great news, looking forward to the submission already
Thanks ๐
Wonder what yuuki is gonna make
No sneak peaks from em just yet
aaaalmost there
this paint deserve a overhaul
this ship deserve a overhaul
but for that i would need _time :agony:
if i'm proud of one thing is how fast i build it
more like i'm happy with my ability to work all day on the ship two day straight
what do you have to say saris?
Since you ask, a lot of people seem to be ruing time constraints that they knew weeks in advance ๐
I do like that most recent ship though, pretty decent
the one i'm currently painting? huh good to know
Sad truth. At least it applies to me... I don't really have the best time management skills what can I say.
lovely ship @lapis niche
good luck at your university!
on another note done and absolutly not polish
@strange mango thanks i actually did not think i would be off by 444credit ๐
i thought i had like a few thousand spare
im not the strongest in math ether, its fine though, it was a pretty easy fix
anyway, im going to sleep now, good luck to those who still need to submit
same
goodnight o/
Thank you! :)
@tight tapir is thsi better
idk how to do underneath D:
" placeholder" obviously, the best ship submitted so far
So far as to have 4 submissions
Time runs low for that
I like this better honestly
@stiff sandal how's this
like this?
why is it a box ๐
dont mind but its a bit funny how bad it looks on hindsight
the wip i mean
I'm a fan of this. The reactor area itself looks quite generic but all the other parts pop off.
Yeah maybe. I still liked it though.
Nature's second most efficient shape
now we need its most efficient shape
Anyways I woke up far earlier than I should have today to finish what I have left [I am not forced to wake up early on Mondays most of the times because Georgian school system is an atrocious mess].
Wish me luuuuuuuuck.
@strange mango If a person helps you on only a single ship, does that count as a collab at that point, or will it just get the ''featuring'' status.
I HAVE TWO LOGISTICAL ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM LEFT TO FINISH
Uhh...
This is it I need to go now.
I still have lore to write.
I guess this is it ๐ฅน
Have to submit half-complete lineup.
ahem
You will?
Heh where did
go lol.
block check
@strange mango If I submit ships right now (Visually they are 100% complete, all of them) but do lore after the deadline and before voting is over, will that be breaking the rules?
i dunno give me spotlight and if you like it maybe ill do the others too
it's ship scrappin' time!
Exactly ;-;
This was one of, if not the messiest work experiences I ever had to go through, ever.
And by that I mean it's worse than the rotten core and prosecutor COMBINED.
you should've checked your resource prices smh my head
Not funny.
1hours left
getting back at you skill issuing my skill issue :P
unless blake don't wake up in time
time to do fast writing
CRISIS AVVERTED!