design contest chat

[simple wigeon]

I think this will be my final advertisement for me wanting to try collaborating this time. Just keep in mind I’m not the best if you decide you are interested.

Pro:
I have a few interesting ship ideas.
Fairly good Ion cores
I have the time to work on it

Cons:
Bad at paint
Logistic skills are limited to basic roles and assignments, no experience optimizing
No experience collaborating on a ship

[oak plaza]

Bad at Paint

https://tenor.com/view/same-office-sad-gif-19573853

[vernal lance]

obligatory me saying "same" text here

[strange mango]

30 minutes to go

[flint abyss]

gimme da rules

[strange mango]

in 28 minutes

[oak plaza]

Wake me up when it's down...
I need to rest after a long days work of exams...

[flint abyss]

the totally not suspicious channel name XD

[toxic ocean]

...I am totally ready to be rickrolled.

[strange mango]

im not abusing my host powers to pull an april fools, dont worry

[toxic ocean]

Convinced.

[slow axle]

good

[flint abyss]

i believe in you... totally

[strange mango]

15 minutes to go

[wispy vigil]

Hmmm

1 minute now

[flint abyss]

no

[toxic ocean]

---

I am still planning to be working solo but just for the fun of it I'll make a pros and cons thing too:

Pros:

• A lot of ship ideas
• Pretty decent at paint
• Debt evasion and optimization ''master''
• Keen with crew roles

Cons:

• My ioncore skills can be compared to a toothpick
• Sometimes I go too overboard and put myself into a humungous pickle
• ||You know the rules and so do I say GOODBYEEEEE MOTHERFUCCA-||
• Can sometimes be too demanding, including towards myself

---

I was waiting for perfect timing to post this one minute before the lure reveal of the Arpil contesto.

:)

[flint abyss]

man you killed the mood

[toxic ocean]

Nah.

I strengthened it in a wrong way, that's all :'>

I am so hyped.

[wispy vigil]

Hmmm

[strange mango]

submission thread should open soon, i dont got the perms to do it myself so i asked a mod

[toxic ocean]

Uhmm...

This is cut off.

[wispy vigil]

I guess it is that time again, to design a ship and paint it

[umbral swift]

i cant view the price table?

[strange mango]

you gotta download them i guess

[toxic ocean]

Shall we download the text file?

Ahh.

Yeah.

[umbral swift]

its just a un-viewable file

[strange mango]

hmm, one sec

i just went ahead and posted the image directly

[umbral swift]

ah oki

[strange mango]

you told us to wake you up, so have a ping

[vernal lance]

spam ping him

[wispy vigil]

Nice to see that the dog you take care of, is a " good girl ", I too have one

[strange mango]

yea, i really adore animals in general so having to take care of someones dog for a while is an absolute joy

[wispy vigil]

Sounds great

[strange mango]

ive asked walt for a ingame announcement this time, so im expecting at least a few more participants

[slow axle]

nice!!

[wispy vigil]

It'd be nice to see more ship variety

[flint abyss]

i was thinking using this one, but what is your thoughts on empty storage ?

[vernal lance]

remove

[flint abyss]

also it can be hard to get what "able to fight against 2 ships of the same size" would entail

in term of ammunitions

[vernal lance]

have enough storage for 2 fights without running out of ammo

[flint abyss]

that's the issue

that depends

[strange mango]

enpty storage is allowed, as long as there are enough resources

[vernal lance]

its probably just if your fight is only winnable with ammo weps

[flint abyss]

i guess i'll just add some resources to some of the storages

[vernal lance]

so for example you use cannons and e, your eb's not killing anything

[wispy vigil]

Add ammunition to the storages

[flint abyss]

that's what i meant

[slow axle]

bruh

[strange mango]

its a rough guild line, test it against a couple similar priced build ins, if it wins the majority of fights with a restock every other fight its fine

[flint abyss]

if this ship fights the monolith equivalent, ammo is the least of the worries

more like not chain exploding is

so yeah, i meant it more like that

[strange mango]

in all honesty, implementing a few intended weaknesses could be helpful, as being too overpowered could increase the chance of being rejected iirc

[flint abyss]

well, the ai focus on the flak, not the reactors, otherwise it would not win ahah

[mortal cave]

I don't think being too powerful will ever be a reason

[strange mango]

oh i must have misremembered then

[flint abyss]

sooo... my rampart that was refused could have be in ?

except the conflict of name

moreover, with the addition of orbiters in the vanilla roster...

[mortal cave]

Your Rampant did not meet the aesthetic requirements. You only use three colors

Additionally Haymaker is equally dangerous for a much lower price, so strength wouldn't be an issue

[flint abyss]

originally it was disqualified for being too fast

[mortal cave]

According to?

[flint abyss]

and yeah, i use 3 colors, but it's not in the DC rules that i must use 4

batpony

[strange mango]

not that i recall, iirc i said it was too close to a meta

[mortal cave]

...Nothing in the rules about ships being too fast either, and the color thing was an explanation for non acceptance

[flint abyss]

non acceptance in what ?
it's not made for any factions

if i wanted it in any faction, i would need 4 layers, regardless of any rules

[vernal lance]

non-acceptance for career gameplay

[flint abyss]

hmmm

[vernal lance]

i dont understand how you didnt process it like that but sure

[flint abyss]

then it's a loss for that big guy

so that means my main line is invalid for the campaign, but not my void line

[mortal cave]

If you mean the purple ships, I doubt those would pass

If it's any consolation I like how they look and would go so far as to describe them as elegant

[toxic ocean]

Really??

Yaaaay!

Kine you ain't being rejected with Crimsonbrace!

Nor am I with my large shield diff.3 chicanery!

[flint abyss]

explain, is it for the same reason or an other one ?

[past bramble]

saris is the paint of this ship good enough for an imperium

[toxic ocean]

You be sure it is!

[past bramble]

question is will they be rejected for the reason of aesthetic

[mortal cave]

It's not up to just me, there's four other people that must be impressed. It's definitely a lot closer to it though

[vernal lance]

nor my polaris !

[stiff sandal]

Hi

Morning

[flint abyss]

because those purple ships use the 4 layers

[mortal cave]

It was an example of an egregious detail that instantly fails it. It's a low bar that passing does not mean your ship is of sufficient quality

If it's any consolation I would describe the ships as elegant with how effectively they use the simple paint shapes and look decent for it

[flint abyss]

wait, you're saying that to who

[mortal cave]

You

[flint abyss]

ok, thanks

and yeah, i make stuff with very low details (even if it still takes time), i can see how it's not to campaign standard. thanks for answering my questions

[mortal cave]

Happy to clarify

[flint abyss]

well, can't stop me from winning again the contest :D

hmmm... do you think it would be interesting to remake breach in a fringe way, or is it to many nukes ?
(i'll remake it from my side, don't worry)

second option that i just got is making it monolith but replacing nukes with EMP

[tired vapor]

imperium paint seems so

idk

i feel like it's impenetrable

same w/ the design

i just can't get the spikes to exist right

[past bramble]

@strange mango is it fine if a ship shares alot similarities with another ship like these 2

[strange mango]

similarities are fine, copy pasting part of another existing ship you did not make is not, but if you did make it, go ahead

[past bramble]

alright

[strange mango]

however if its copied from another build in, it should make sense in-universe. two unrelated ships should not share bits of design

just put something like "made from parts in a ship graveyard" in the bio

[past bramble]

alright

[fast goblet]

I'm sorry to bother you, but could you tell if my ships from last contest had a fitting paint style or not? Since a bunch of people already asked that I really would like to know too 😅

I am a bit unsure if I should keep going with that kind of shading or not

[wispy vigil]

Grey

[mortal cave]

That first ship and the one with the three bars on the front actually are some of the most well liked. It's very distinctive but looks awesome, and I'm sure with time more of your ships would be accepted to make them fit in better

[fast goblet]

Amazing, thanks!

[vernal lance]

i used 4/5 of my individual votes for you coffee

[toxic ocean]

4/6 actually.

[vernal lance]

oh right

[slow axle]

i forgot who i voted

[vernal lance]

same

[toxic ocean]

All the winners I remember.

[slow axle]

but i belive i vote coffee

[slow axle]

i'm the opinion of majority

[vernal lance]

including you 2?

[slow axle]

i voted myself yeah

[vernal lance]

i mean you were tied with me so probably

[past bramble]

i wonder when we will get the approval or rejection from the architects

[slow axle]

isiin't it after voteess?

[strange mango]

when i get a list ill post it to #tournament-announcements

or saris may just do that directly

[past bramble]

The jan one havent been officially anounced

[tired vapor]

first shippo?

the spikes feel.. off

idk

like the front is too big or smth

[toxic ocean]

Small-scale diagonal ioncore named laserdrill?

I already have laser-bore so not sure.

BLOWTORCH!!

[strange mango]

if only we had flamethrowers

[oak plaza]

Let me just be clear...
If we wanted it to be in the campaign, we need to make it fit with the 4 factions right...?

[strange mango]

no no, they only have to be approved of by the architects

and win in the votes

[oak plaza]

But what I'm getting from Saris is basically that...

[past bramble]

I would like to submit a parasite ship but it would automatically be disqualified from career by aesthetic alone

[oak plaza]

From earlier still, we even had this long back and forth earlier in this chat...

[past bramble]

Higher chance of approval if it fits te 4 faction i think

Not guarenteed

[strange mango]

well, i have had the agreement with walt that pirates/factionless ships are fine since before the previous contest, and i think he would have the final say

[toxic ocean]

Indeed.

[oak plaza]

Well now I'm confused...
Because Saris told me my ships are effective otherwise for campaign but did not fit the theme so it did not get in...

Should I recolor my last ships too to fit it then...?

And honestly I wish we could talk to Our Savior Walt All Mighty so that he may pass his judgement about the pirate ships...

[mortal cave]

I don't recall explicitly mentioning it's because they didn't fit in the four factions. To be as clear as possible it is because they did not meet the aesthetic standards to fit into the campaign

[tired vapor]

sarees m i doing it right

[oak plaza]

Can I ask what guidelines do we need to follow...?
Because I'm really getting confused and I really wanna make my ships run in game... Sorry Bro...

[mortal cave]

• Look good enough

[tired vapor]

lol

[strange mango]

art is subjective though

[oak plaza]

That is too vague ngl...

[mortal cave]

It was meant for Kaine

[past bramble]

to play it safe make it look similar to built ins

[toxic ocean]

My diff.3— Wedge.

This will sure be annoying for the newcomers...

Any deedback?

*Feedback?

[mortal cave]

As for Air the spikes look cool but the fades are clashing with the flak also that reactor is too small and four flak isn't anywhere near close enough firepower

[oak plaza]

Yea agreed...
I wanted to push my Kaine's Scrapyard theme but I don't want my "masterpiece" get vetoed because it's not aesthetic enough...

Hahahahahaha

[strange mango]

i do agree with this in all honesty

[flint abyss]

poor saris

[mortal cave]

?

[flint abyss]

you got jumped on by everyone :P

but it's true that everyone are curious what is necessary to make it into the game

[oak plaza]

They're the only Architect on touch so yea...
We all wanted to know what ships will it be...

[toxic ocean]

Anyways what do ya'll think of Wedge.

[tired vapor]

yay saris approves

[mortal cave]

For whatever it's worth I wanted to wait before the contest to better establish the overview

[past bramble]

I like it

[strange mango]

but yea, there should be more than just "look good or it gets rejected" art is subjective meaning that everyone sees it differently so there is no factual 'good' art. same way that there is no perfect food as theres always someone that doesnt like the taste

[toxic ocean]

...To spare the newbies I could make the head all corridor.

[oak plaza]

Can I ask Saris, the reworks I've done on the last contest that I posted on the reworks channel...

Is it a smash or pass...?
Just tell me yes or no if the designs are lacking or not...

[toxic ocean]

Thanks.

[oak plaza]

No main airlock...?

[tired vapor]

u don't have an airlock o the main body?

[mortal cave]

I would say hard pass, but I imagine it’s up to the other architects, not just me

And yes, beauty is if course subjective, but that's why I imagine the architects will be voting on what makes it into the campaign

[toxic ocean]

Will add it.

[oak plaza]

Is it still up for grabs if I edited it a bit more...?
That was my first contest ships and I was just starting...

I don't know if I improved much but my designs became busy as of late...

Btw is this color scheme okay...?

[toxic ocean]

These are cool.

Be sure.

[oak plaza]

This will still be my go to colors...

[mortal cave]

The color scheme isn't an issue and these do look better

[strange mango]

what if we do something where every architect vote counts for 5?

in the participant votes i mean

[toxic ocean]

Now I'm confident with it. Not sure about the scheme though.

Will this be too unfair for the starters?

[oak plaza]

That's good, it's easing my chest for a bit that the reason it wasn't accepted because it was my past works...

It would be a bummer to think that I did not have what it takes to paint...

Hahahahahaha

[tired vapor]

dodge across the stick, shoot out the launcher, not it can't hurt u

*now

[strange mango]

that way the architects still got a significant say in the winners, but not an absolute say,

[past bramble]

We can worry about that after it gets voted in through the rework submission

[oak plaza]

Will the name "Marigold Reborn" be a name issue...?

I really wanted to submit this as is...

[tired vapor]

look a spacesjo[

[toxic ocean]

Wheelbarrow.

Need to work on rounding out some bits on the right most side to make it look like a convincing wheeled apparatus.

[unborn mortar]

So how we enter is just submit a ship?

[tired vapor]

flak has hitbox D:

[oak plaza]

Make a bunch of ships, wait when the submission date and channel is in...

Then pray to God your ships gets voted...

[unborn mortar]

uhoh

Ah, I see

ok

I'll do that tomorrow when I have free time

[oak plaza]

Have you seen the rules yet...?

[unborn mortar]

I read through them

[oak plaza]

Then you are ready to go...

[unborn mortar]

more like just glanced at them

[unborn mortar]

👍

[oak plaza]

Goodluck man...

[tired vapor]

i would like to rethink my life's decisions

[stiff sandal]

Nice

[unborn mortar]

can't you just eteng the prongs outwards a bit farther?

it's just armour and stuff there

so you can move the nuke launchers

[toxic ocean]

Okaaaaay... I'm not really that proud of this one.

[oak plaza]

Why did you broke it...?

[toxic ocean]

Broke what?

[oak plaza]

You made the structure broken...
Like it's been through hell...

Nevermind, it was like that before too, I didn't realize...

[toxic ocean]

It has been through hell lol.

And then some.

[oak plaza]

I thought your powertools gets a brand new look...
Didn't know it will be battle damaged...

[toxic ocean]

I had a cool lore about them.

Powertools is a cool faction name though.

[oak plaza]

Can't wait to see that...

[toxic ocean]

I considered ''The Tooltips'' or something like that but I really like how ''Powertools'' rolls off the tongue.

Powertools!

[oak plaza]

Is this a renaissance of lore dumps because of me...? 🥹👉👈

[oak plaza]

Glad to add something...

[toxic ocean]

What?

[strange mango]

with how fast the chat is moving its not possible for me to constantly check all of it, ill try to keep up but if you need me to answer please ping me

[toxic ocean]

Okay, Clamp is on the list.

[toxic ocean]

Alrighty 👍

I personally am none but happy with an active #1059084974655033415

[oak plaza]

Nevermind...
Hahahahahaha...
Was asking if you started having lore descriptions because I always do that...

[strange mango]

i can agree with that

[oak plaza]

I wish that the Design Contest be a great success...

[strange mango]

so do i, its just that i cant always be at my pc checking this thread

[toxic ocean]

My interraction with lore dates WAAAAAY BACK

I just stopped doing that in modern for some reason.

Clamp is gonna be a big boi.

...I'm just doing rough experimentation at this phase.

Nothing I'm confident with yet.

Honestly should've done that in the past week or 2 but I was too busy.

Despite a huge lack of expeimenting, this is turning out swaggy as all hell.

[olive aspen]

alright, it is time I try again in a design contest

I didn't finish the last one so I'm going to start fresh with a style I actually like

[toxic ocean]

Good luck!

👍

[past bramble]

ehe

[toxic ocean]

Alexander levels of firepower.

Anyways...

The CLAMP.

[vernal lance]

calmp

[olive aspen]

beautiful

[toxic ocean]

Thanks.

One of my best shapes honestly.

[olive aspen]

a little too spiky for my tastes, but hey, if you can make it work then props

[tired vapor]

flak!!

[toxic ocean]

Flak for offensive reasons though.

[tired vapor]

nice

i did that too :D

[past bramble]

its 4 launcher short from alexander

[vernal lance]

also you cant submit your planned stagger clone now

[toxic ocean]

Aww.

[toxic ocean]

...The moment I thought the concept of a clamp as spaceship, I immediately started to think about flaks banging on the opponent.

[tired vapor]

this is the old verison

ignore the nasty nukes

[toxic ocean]

Anyways, Clamp in Russian (And in Georgian it's used as a Barbarism) is ''Tyski'' ''Тиски'' which also in a slang manner means harrasement and pressuring.

So I think it's a very symbolic name for a ship that rams and harasses you with Flak.

...If slightly immoral.

...Yeah.

[vernal lance]

why did i make this things lore "have a governing system built upon who can throw chunks of iron the farthest"

[tired vapor]

america

george washington threw a coin over a river or smth

[toxic ocean]

:>>>

Anyways I think I've decided on a theme.

*Scheme.

[vernal lance]

now test it

[toxic ocean]

Red is an interesting choice.

You know how some tools have red and blue bits to signify importance over the typical grey or black?

[vernal lance]

i just slightly changed nutcracker's paint scheme

[toxic ocean]

Hmmm

To be totally honest it's a phenomenal scheme.

[vernal lance]

made the darker colors into a tint of blue

[vernal lance]

yeah

[stiff sandal]

nice work

[vernal lance]

hey @strange mango are these fine for the paint schemes

do they look similar to this per se?

[strange mango]

id say they look similar, i thought they where the same faction based on first glance

[vernal lance]

last ship is a fringe ship

nutcracker

[strange mango]

if you are going for a fringe submission you have succeeded in my book

[vernal lance]

for a pirate?

[strange mango]

for a pirate submission they look too fringey,

[vernal lance]

ok good to know

[tired vapor]

the last one looks base game fringe

[vernal lance]

as in my ship or nutcracker

[stiff sandal]

@vernal lance working on chip atm

il try to make ratchet

[vernal lance]

very cool

[tired vapor]

ur ship

this one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059084974655033415/1091717521847107715/Stagger.ship.png

[vernal lance]

stagger

yeah i kinda plagiarized nutcracker by copying off its elements of paint

[tired vapor]

it looks nice though

[stiff sandal]

@vernal lance mind if I just go a bit off - script with the blueprints?

[toxic ocean]

Oh, so you're recieveing hidden support from Foodjon.

[past bramble]

almost done

very glass cannon ship

[oak plaza]

A smaller and nuker Anzu...

[past bramble]

4 nukes less than alexander

[oak plaza]

Damn...

[toxic ocean]

Swaggy ✨

[tired vapor]

love the core

[wanton granite]

what is the actual theme of the contest?

[toxic ocean]

So simple yet effective.

[toxic ocean]

There is no theme :>>>

[past bramble]

im pretty sure i could reduce the prism by a few if i do it properly

but wont looks as pretty

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

Main thing is that it's proper.

2:1

[past bramble]

old and new

more nukes

and somehow cheaper

[toxic ocean]

Nooch

[past bramble]

2 ships down

420668 budget left

dammit harverster is overbudget

[tired vapor]

less thrust

[toxic ocean]

Wait you're over 3mil?!

ALREADY?!

[strange mango]

that was curtainly quick

[past bramble]

well im reusing ships i have built in the past

[toxic ocean]

a

[past bramble]

i might have to replace fringeyard or do a complete overhaul tho

[toxic ocean]

What is Fringeyard?

[past bramble]

its combat is beyond shite

the other one

[toxic ocean]

The infected faction?

Bootleg Contagion?

[past bramble]

the frankenstein thornyard

top one

[toxic ocean]

Ah right.

F R A N K Y A R D

[past bramble]

need a better name

i would like to get one of the infected parasite ship in

mostlikely lost cause will be submitted since i dont have the cash for the bigger one

crap i forgot rule 9

how do i test rule 9? turn on invulnerability and see if the armament can kill a ship twice?

[strange mango]

that should be fine, as its mostly about damage output, you could do it without invul if you want a more accurate simulation

also, i check #1059081605420945508 more often for questions than here

[past bramble]

yeah ship is too glass cannon to try that

[toxic ocean]

Kill a ship twice.

You'll definitely be able to oneshot most ships so not a worry.

Just make sure you don't test them on an ultraheavy DC brick.

[past bramble]

no this ship is VERY glass cannon

[toxic ocean]

No worries on that you'll be able to kill stuff before they materialize.

G E A R I N '

[stiff sandal]

even more glass cannon than my glass cannons

[past bramble]

it can one shot sol renatus lol

that the only ship that it can win convincingly

[stiff sandal]

not surprising

with all those nuke and Ions, its quite formbidable

[past bramble]

i wish ai is alot smarter in targeting

because it waste the first salvo on something useless and get its ass handed by almost everything

[toxic ocean]

Switch nukes at ''fire at target'' like Alexander has.

AI knows how to target stuff.

[past bramble]

that improved it

or made it alot worst depending on the ship

[stiff sandal]

so I take it that the 3M ship will be your submission

[past bramble]

no its 2m

i already have another 1m ship that is partially finished

[stiff sandal]

oh

progress on the Wrench

[past bramble]

still alot of refining left to do for the other ship

[stiff sandal]

true

[strange mango]

since no mods are replying im just opening a new submissions thread

[stiff sandal]

awesome

[toxic ocean]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!

I need important feedback and an answer to a very serious question!

HOW TO PLAY NICE WITH BIG NUTS?!?!?!?!?!

[past bramble]

this is pretty

[toxic ocean]

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...I'm sorry guys, no more nuts.

This is the first and last one... Until the first April of 2024 at least.

;-;

[tired vapor]

wip

it feels.. wrong

ik them iddle is bad

but also like

idk it feels off

(fusion pls help)

[bronze citrus]

The divisions arent reall consistent in style

Some are straight, some are jagged, etc

[tight tapir]

Progress?

[stiff sandal]

Nice work

[tired vapor]

the armorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[tight tapir]

Finished

Actually paint error lol as soon as I send it I see the error

Now it's finished

What should I name it?

Here are my ships so far

[oak plaza]

@strange mango, you could pin your first message in the new Submissions so that it would be the start of the channel when the chat gets crowded...

[stiff sandal]

Does pyrrhuloxia work?

[tight tapir]

Uh I ended up naming it Emu

Mind defining pyrrhuloxia?

[stiff sandal]

Oops, I was too late

[stiff sandal]

Name of a bird

[tight tapir]

Interesting bird

Ooh it has an imperium color scheme

[stiff sandal]

To a degree

Also the name sounded pretty cool

[tight tapir]

It does

[stiff sandal]

Perhaps for your next ship?

Actually, I might actually use the name later on

[tight tapir]

Well the first one is ostritch, the second is emu, I'm going for a theme of making fun of Imperium

[stiff sandal]

Cool

Well, Lotta progress made tonight for you it seems

[oak plaza]

What does Imperium names have to be like...?
Bird and menacing sounding ships...?

Because I thought of phoenix, manticore, sparrow...

[tight tapir]

Birds, conquerers, military things

[mortal cave]

Military things?

[tight tapir]

Idk

They're like

The militaristic faction

[mortal cave]

Low end combat ships are birds, high end are conquerors primarily, plus heroes to a lesser extent. Every now and again there's more mythical bird related things such as Griffin

[tight tapir]

Hmm good to know

[stiff sandal]

Ok so I had the right idea for the name, goodie

[gloomy whale]

Here is even a design contest?

What is the rules and requirments?

[past bramble]

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1091648368922595419

[gloomy whale]

Just found it too, thank you.

[past bramble]

saris may I have your opinion on the current paint

[tight tapir]

What's it's name

[past bramble]

atm im thinking garuda

would like some suggestions tho since im not well versed in historical figures

[ember flare]

i would give you names from greek mythology but i need those for my faction's ships' names

[past bramble]

most likely my submission

but 30k over budget

i really do not like the FTL rule

[gloomy whale]

I have studied the rules and requirments of designcontest carefully, and I believe I have by far acknowleged enougth of its contents. So, I believe I may ask some qustions. Asking for a special treat to solve a special issue in fact.
As many of you may have already noticed, not all players have a Discord accont to submit for the contest. For example, most of Chinese players. And unlike none-community players, Chinese cosmoteer players are at least partically organized. They make up groups and communities. They would follow rules and accept surpervising. As far as I can see, they are trust worthy to attend any contest. However many of them can't have a Discord even when they know they should and want to. A perhaps acceptable alternative isgather their submission and hand them in through others who owns Discord accont, but it is obviously against our curent rules: "5- you cant submit ships you have not build/designed yourself, unless you chose to colab with 1 or more other players, ......".
I believe I fully understand how our curent rules are nessacery for fairness and convience, but I do requst a exception: I hope I and/or other Chinese Cosmoteer Community managers can help organize the design contest submission in Chinese community (outside Discord server), then submit ships for builders who can't use or have difficulty using Discord here. It is understandable for players to worry this extra measure may brought convience to cheating, but I believe with Discord Cosmoteer Server Managers assisting and surpervising, we can make sure the fairness of this extra submission process.

The Chinese Cosmoteer Community will promise to offer ships and fleet adapted to contest rules along with the basic imformation of the attender and necessary prove to show the attendered joined the contest according to one's own will with one's own ship. I apologize for any doubt and technical inconvience satisfying this requst may brought, but I believe it is worthy, for there are still players who are talented enougth to enlarge our game's ship group not able to join in, for they are my friends and can be yours too.

[oak plaza]

How much is the budget again...?
did it change from 3.5Mil to 4...?

[gloomy whale]

<@&340613895427325952>@mortal cave @strange mango (I still don't know Discord enougth so I am not sure if I am @ing the right person anyway I just @ everyone who seems to be incharge of the contest in my point of view)

[past bramble]

still 3.5m

[gloomy whale]

Any issue that may need further arangement can be discussed.

[night atlas]

very fair points, ill talk with the others and see what can be done

[gloomy whale]

On behalf of the Chinese Cosmoteer Community, I would like to express my gratitude.

"谢谢各位朋友们。"

[stiff sandal]

No changes made to budgets. Except for the whole resources count for pricing

[gloomy whale]

By the way when I mean talented players, I really mean it. For example there is this alsome painter who paint monolith as good as......this:

It will be 100% shame if her ships were never in contest.

[ionic sierra]

@mortal cave careful, someone's after your job

[gloomy whale]

Her ship work is of argue I think, but the paint...... She will be my master forever I am sure.

[night atlas]

lmao

does look really good

SOTD worth too

[gloomy whale]

Yeah, so maybe I will aply for the right to help them post ships on SOTD too,

Can you believe they are just isolated from eveyone here until they eventaully left the game, way earlier than they suppose when there is a more active community？

Such as the painter I just mentioned: she havn't been in game for like a month already. She played at least 400h but she is still tending to leave.

I swear I am trying my best to change that.

[gloomy whale]

The ship's name is "Athyranphy" in english alphabet I think.

I am trying to remake its ship design so it will really fit combat.

[mortal cave]

The rule of "you must submit your own ships" exists so that you don't claim ownership of other people's ships. Given that you will instead be submitting the ships for other players, who can't due to circumstances, I would say is entirely okay. Thank you for taking the time to be cordial and clear with your message, and I look forward to clarifying further as necessary.

Additionally, I would also say that due to the same circumstances you can submit SOtD submissions, so long as it's credited to the proper author.

Lastly I do have to mention that when you are painting ships and submitting them to design contests or for SOtD, they must be entirely of your own creation or collaboration. Though Athyranphy is a pretty ship, it is actually a modified version of a ship I have made known as the Executor, which is a built-in ship you can find in the campaign. As such it would not be eligible for a design contest or SOtD submission.

[vernal lance]

huh

[normal kite]

explains a lot actually

[tribal heath]

Built-in moment

[vernal lance]

hehe fusion

[ionic sierra]

lmao

[past bramble]

1370 credits leftover

[strange mango]

done

[strange mango]

im in charge of the contest , ping (or @ing as you call it) me for any questions regarding it, try to only ping a moderator when you think someone is breaking a rule of the discord server itself (#rules ). saris is an architect, meaning they are one of the people who verify the winning contest ships

[strange mango]

im currently the only host doing design contest and sadly dont speak the chinese language, im happy to accept new participants from any part of the world, but since the forum has shut down, contests require participants to have a discord account unless there is an alternative platform you could suggest

[wispy vigil]

Nord vpn

[strange mango]

still 3.5

[gloomy whale]

Well, the issue is many players can't be in Discord themselves, and I wonder If I can help by useing ways procedurally speaking illegal, such as submiting overamount of ships possibly made not by the accont owner (only offering the real owners' imformation but not having the owner oneself there), but under permission. The rules are still actually applyed to every attender, we just added a transit accont to break the platform barrier. And if you are worried about language: don't be worried about being frustrated by unfimilar language, all necassery text will have its transelated version (If there is pure-Chinese names involved, we will also transelate them by mean or by spelling).

[gloomy whale]

Hm, explains a lot for me too. Though still impressive because she is quit familiar with the monolith paint: she copied at least 40% of the paint without directly taking it from exsisting ships.

[strange mango]

if someone is willing to post submissions on the behalf of chinese players, i dont see a problem with this. though i will need to know the name of this account before they start posting the submissions.

[wispy vigil]

You could provide a link to their steam accounts

[tribal heath]

And other 60% is directly copied? Low level of originality, to be honest 🙃

[gloomy whale]

For now, it would be me. I have been a shared mannager if the two biggest Chinese Cosmoteer Chatgroup and is known and trusted by most active community players. I think then I should apply for such duty here.

[strange mango]

aright then, im looking forward to what they bring to the table

[gloomy whale]

The other 60% wasn't painted when I was there, so I won't give it a bit. But yeah wasn't as original as I thought: I havn'y notive how a huge piece of its design was muchly copied from the original design (the painter told me lot, maybe that causes me to view her with halo).

[bronze citrus]

????? only 40 is no offense but not even able to be considered your own work

[toxic ocean]

I am already afraid.

[vernal lance]

do you feel like youre gonna lose?

2 days in the contest???

[bronze citrus]

still looking for a partner. ill probably go solo for this one though

ive got 1 ship done so far. it aint bad imo

[strange mango]

it should be said that contest ships cant have bits from other ships not owned be the author

[vernal lance]

also i havent done the funny resume for co-oping

[toxic ocean]

I am not ruling it out :p

[bronze citrus]

havent u already collabed with fusion?

[vernal lance]

hey can you link your collab resume thing

[vernal lance]

yes

[bronze citrus]

oh ok

misunderstood

[toxic ocean]

XP

[bronze citrus]

what is this "resume" lol

[vernal lance]

infact he actually made 2 ships i havent been able to

[gloomy whale]

Here: a remix on a Imperial style ship into monolith paint, which I think would repersent one's ability.

[toxic ocean]

#1059084974655033415 message

[bronze citrus]

i mean it isnt bad, but it still isnt flawless with actual monolith style and especially new monolith

[vernal lance]

even i dont know

[toxic ocean]

Such monolith.

Korvus but mono.

[vernal lance]

i just wanna join in on it

[tribal heath]

Literally monolith's Odysseus

[toxic ocean]

K O R V U S

I know no Odysseus.

There's only Korvus in my heart.

[vernal lance]

K O R O V U S

[toxic ocean]

K O R O N A V U S

☠️

[gloomy whale]

You are right about that: the ship is made in 2022.11, it is normal for them to be out dated.

[vernal lance]

K O R O N A V I R U S

[toxic ocean]

#old-design-contest-submissions message Korvus my beloved.

Why is the original better than the updated version

[bronze citrus]

I am still planning to be working solo but i want teammate:

Pros:

• I can recreate cabal pretty much 1:1 (i think)
• I also have unique painting style
• Uh, uhm, uh hhh decent logistic knowledge
  Cons:
• bad at ioncore
• cant really do many other style
• annoying shithead

[toxic ocean]

We can combine our sucky knowledge of ioncores

[gloomy whale]

Probably because the version changed and paint style didn't envolved along.

[bronze citrus]

im down but unfortunately 0+0 is still 0

[vernal lance]

thank you for giving me a template

[gloomy whale]

Interested in international copa?

[bronze citrus]

this one is nick's lol

[bronze citrus]

not against it in the slightest

[gloomy whale]

I the sort of work with Ion core,

[toxic ocean]

But I think our paint styles are distinctive and will clash with each other. Plus I already have a pre-determined idea and planning to work solo, still. I'm not against the idea in the slightest though plus I think your OG style complements my OG style pretty well.

[bronze citrus]

i still do my og style. i could match with yours for this one and not do cabal, if you want

we can just both paint and also build

[toxic ocean]

Nah, do whatever the heck you desire :)

[bronze citrus]

i dont really have the most interesting thematic idea so im interested in what you have as an idea

[toxic ocean]

Aww my first ever industrial paint.

[bronze citrus]

you probably are more creative than me

[toxic ocean]

Thanks.

[gloomy whale]

I have experience constructing ships of different classes and style. I am also adaptive. I believe for almost all ship you may come up with I can help with optimization.

[bronze citrus]

nah im down, itll definitely be a nice change of pace from cabal at least

[bronze citrus]

ill see. i wanna try collabing with nick for this one tho, sorry. it sounds funny

cause we have very similar styles

[gloomy whale]

The first of mine lol.

[vernal lance]

lmao

[bronze citrus]

awwwww

[gloomy whale]

Got it.

[toxic ocean]

My industrial paint instantly evolved.

...Once modern came out.

[strange mango]

this is actually not a bad looking first ship, i love the shape

[toxic ocean]

Sold.

[bronze citrus]

👍 nice to have you on board. ill be sleeping now, its late. ill dm you tomorrow and we can get to work

[toxic ocean]

You've been annoying to me in the past sometimes but I couldn't care less because you paint gud.

Let's carry each other to victoryyyyy

👍

[gloomy whale]

I t suprised me that the first one did work a bit. But the second paint isn't. So I will never share it.

[toxic ocean]

Also you seem fun when building.

[toxic ocean]

Gotcha.

[gloomy whale]

Cya.

[vernal lance]

future collab guy or something

Pros:

• knows a little bit too much of the 4 faction's style
• sort of good at logistics and shape
• a bunch of ideas
  Cons:
• either the legendary narcissist or the ultimate edgelord (pick your poison)
• is slower at making things than your grandma on melatonin

there we go

[toxic ocean]

Slow and steady wins the race.

...And the annoying :>

[JK]

[vernal lance]

i procrastinated painting amory for 15 ish days

this piece of shit

[toxic ocean]

Well I have shut down so many potentially amazing prototypes because either the lack of motivation or the lack of time that you can't even count.

[toxic ocean]

Not like the finished result wasn't worth it or anything...

[vernal lance]

i wanna see them

[toxic ocean]

There's so many it will clog up the channel so I'll DM them.

[vernal lance]

id say its mediocre because i didnt follow "the rules" of effective painting ||/j||

[toxic ocean]

Hmmm

[gloomy whale]

For me as partner:

Pros:
-Supper patient for anything.
-Comparetively adaptive.
Cons:
-Understand official ships as little as someone who just joined game for a week.
-May fail to be as focused as others for spending time helping others and wonder around, etc.

[gloomy whale]

Paint seems fairly great. Is speed and defense the issue?

[vernal lance]

nah

[gloomy whale]

Or it is just not as satisfying as you wish?

[vernal lance]

nah im still salty about the fact that i procrastinated on it for 15 days

[toxic ocean]

Imagine a 10 person collab lol.

Half the contest participants working on a single set of ships.

...Also imagine a ship megacollab overall. Like more than a dozen people working to build one gigantic ship.

[vernal lance]

mega efficency

creates 10 high-quality ships on the first day of them working

[toxic ocean]

Hooh boi

[past bramble]

I wonder how much more participant we will be getting this time

[toxic ocean]

Probably way more.

We already have a few new faces.

[past bramble]

And walt hasnt added the in game notification

[toxic ocean]

...I don't know either.

[vernal lance]

iono kite?

[toxic ocean]

Yes.

''Glasscutter.''

Very rough early concept and needs refining.

[past bramble]

cool

[oak plaza]

Hows this for a ship...?

Costs about this much...

Inside layout...

[vernal lance]

goofy rails

[oak plaza]

yes it is...

a kinda wonky version of Shrike...

[vernal lance]

doesnt feel shrike-y

[oak plaza]

Good, because I dont want it to be told that I copied it...

I already have a theme when I made this...

[vernal lance]

honestly it just feels weird

[past bramble]

Oho that is very cool seeing it complete

[oak plaza]

Forgot about the lights...

[vernal lance]

me and fusion are 2 days in the contest and we've already taken 2.5m of the budget with 5 ships

probably because i started 3 days in advance

[oak plaza]

mine is just 1.6...

thats one ship...

[oak plaza]

Im proud of announce Kiana's Organ...
"The Instrument of Death"...

[vernal lance]

consequences of a big ship

honestly it feels really fragile

[past bramble]

Im pretty much done and on cleaning up and optimisation phase

[oak plaza]

yup, and Im okay with that...
Its a career ship afterall...

[vernal lance]

too fragile tbh

[past bramble]

Have u testwd it ai v ai againsnt other ships

[oak plaza]

wait let me do it...

[robust path]

So when submitting designs, do we just plop em here and that's it? https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1091784501274869821

[strange mango]

you post the .ship files along with the required information. but other than that, pretty much

[strange mango]

i suppose walt is a bit busy, ill be asking in advance in the future

[oak plaza]

Got wrecked easily...
hahahaha

I need to rework this, for its price it isnt that good...

[vernal lance]

as i said

too fragile

[oak plaza]

It couldnt reverse fast enough...

[past bramble]

Railfan is a hard one because u cant fan in ai v ai

try other fighting ships

[oak plaza]

I wanted to face something that is equal to the credits spent...

I'll rework it tomorrow...

[oak plaza]

Can you open this ship Kine and copy paste the ship info here...?

I forgot to copy it before I closed the game...

[past bramble]

Im not playing atm sorry

[oak plaza]

It's okay...

[past bramble]

looking back at the january ships

nick's ship description is so long they dont fit in screen lmao

[vernal lance]

hatter's harvest:

[toxic ocean]

I am even more afraid now, this is utterly gorgeous.

I'd say this is the best ship you've ever made by a landslide.

[vernal lance]

you really feel like you're gonna lose now huh

[stiff sandal]

Don't be

Have some faith

[gloomy whale]

Veryinteresting design.

[stiff sandal]

Now this is gonna be good to watch

See how your styles mix

[tired vapor]

do have faith, i'm going to not be able to do anything this week bc i'm travelling

[stiff sandal]

Rip

[past bramble]

no big capital ship planned?

[stiff sandal]

I wish your teamwork the best ||I don't think you have to worry about kaine or kine, you have yuuki as your ally||

[past bramble]

D:

[stiff sandal]

[stiff sandal]

Wait what? I'm gonna have to do some re - mathing on that one

[past bramble]

fair i guess since im not trying to win the set votes

[stiff sandal]

Screwball and hacksaw don't cost much, as for the rest, we barely broke 1M, so I was under the impression we have alot to work with

[stiff sandal]

I don't even know what your theme is lad

[vernal lance]

goofy math

[stiff sandal]

Yeah.. could you check for me? I'm still in bed and I refuse to move for a few more hours

Thanks!

[vernal lance]

oh yeah i dont have cosmoteer or a calculator up

[stiff sandal]

Got it

[toxic ocean]

Hmm

[vernal lance]

hey @quasi axle you still playing cosmoteer?

[oak plaza]

It's not that good though...
For it's price...
I need to rework it and that means botching the paint...

[stiff sandal]

: )

[oak plaza]

Thank You...

[vernal lance]

or maybe @flint abyss

[stiff sandal]

Well, the latter does, he posted some ships yesterday iirc

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

[stiff sandal]

I'm sorry 😞

: heart :

[vernal lance]

poor you, he didnt mean it

right fusion?

right?

[stiff sandal]

Yeah I didn't mean it

Anyways, adjusting topics

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-that-remember-batman-bad-guy-i-will-remember-that-gif-11943514

[stiff sandal]

So.. I'm pretty sure my math is correct for our budget

And it DOES include resources

So thats rules followed, yay

[oak plaza]

AND AS IT SHOULD BE...

[stiff sandal]

Ok ok

No rules broken officer

[past bramble]

so big capital ship?

[stiff sandal]

Assuming there even is some to work with, then I think we are in business

[flint abyss]

?

[past bramble]

i got 1170 credits left

pls no price balancing

[quasi axle]

Today or in general? Yes either way

[stiff sandal]

Anthraax and XDERP7 team up?

[vernal lance]

i need the cost of these bois

[vernal lance]

#1059084974655033415 message

[quasi axle]

lol right as i log out.... just a sec

[quasi axle]

Screwball: 68,200
Hacksaw: 160,343
Chip: 162,003
Ratchet: 320,906
Stagger: 606,164

[toxic ocean]

Eggspensif

[past bramble]

your math is so off lmao

[vernal lance]

dont take it from me take it from him

1,317,616

[past bramble]

hacksaw and chip price overlaps no?

[vernal lance]

yep

[quasi axle]

yeah, both level 6

[vernal lance]

have to make hacksaw cheaper

probably just by removing the hyperdrive lmao

[quasi axle]

level 5 cutoff is 140k

and if the rule is the same as last time, level 5 doesn't need FTL but level 6 does, so that would work lol

[vernal lance]

yeah

[flint abyss]

@vernal lance

[flint abyss]

i already have some void ships that are already ready for the contest, i don't need new stuff. right now i'm just making a new paint. one that could help breach get into the game :P

[vernal lance]

i forgor what ftl costs

[flint abyss]

10000

• hyperium

[past bramble]

need more price reduction to drop class

[vernal lance]

for a total of

[flint abyss]

11k

[stiff sandal]

Knew it, we got a lot of money now for smth special

[vernal lance]

hair's breadth enough

actually wait i need to lessen it more

shit

hmmm

[tired vapor]

imperium(?)

[vernal lance]

make it pointier

[oak plaza]

Those are damn cheap...

[stiff sandal]

working on something special

[past bramble]

I wonder what is the acceptable limit of nukes for non imperium ships

[ionic jay]

Very few, especially if they aren't end-game ships.

[stiff sandal]

For my ship, is 4 nukes ok, or do I cut it down

[ionic jay]

Having them be exposed is a good counterbalance so I think you're fine in this case.

[past bramble]

Is this too much then?

[stiff sandal]

Yeah, also 120 with boost seems like a good speed, in contrast to the other ships, its less durable, all that's left is a paintjob imagine me not making glass cannons

[ionic jay]

It's not clear how pirate spawning will work, but it's looking like we may be able to restrict pirates to spawn in specific faction territory, in which case that would be fine spawning in Imperium space. Also might be fine normally, but that'd be up to the other architects.

[past bramble]

It was suppose to be a fringe frankenstein algamation of my previous contest submissions but that works too

[flint abyss]

from what i understand, they will be all the factionless missions

[past bramble]

I bet atomic retribution is more glass cannon in its price range

[past bramble]

Btw fusion is your ships an expansion of your jan submissions or just happens to share similar colors

[stiff sandal]

no, they are not

these are fringe based ships

corrupt came up with our game plan

[toxic ocean]

Oh wow.

[toxic ocean]

On a similar note am I fine with 2 nukes on this 450K DC winner?

[ionic jay]

Probably yes

[toxic ocean]

I see. Is this morally justifiable? [60K]

[tight tapir]

I mean it's not very strong but it'll probably get at least one shot off on the noobs and massacre them

[flint abyss]

should i send this to update breach ?
oh should i still work on the paint ?
(crew roles added in this version too)

[tight tapir]

Looks better

[flint abyss]

than this ?

[tight tapir]

Yes

[flint abyss]

huh

[tight tapir]

But I think a bit more of a dark color for the shades would be good

The new one has better fade usage

But it looks like plastic for some reason

[flint abyss]

too bright and saturated ?

or is it the lack of texture usage ?

made the fades darker

and this is with a metal texture

[toxic ocean]

Mind you this will meat you in the same difficulty range as FANGED FIGHTER.

😏

[flint abyss]

paint is hard :I

but that's also because i don't help myself there. has i use green for armor and brown/orange for the rest

[toxic ocean]

I like dis.

[flint abyss]

the last one ?

[toxic ocean]

Yeah, that ship.

[flint abyss]

good -.-"

[stiff sandal]

one - shot wonder

[flint abyss]

stealth is when no one can tell you came.
it's not about the means.

[ember flare]

i wouldn't mind doing a collab, trying to learn different paintstyles

can also do some decent ion cores

[past bramble]

added a DC to make it look more jank

lost a launcher and have to remove 1/3rd of nuke storage to make it fit budget

[oak plaza]

Hows this for a rework...?

Is the ship design okay...?

25.7 m/s forward...

[past bramble]

does it win AI v AI

[oak plaza]

62.9 in reverse...

[oak plaza]

Let me see...

I tested it and it can kite well...

As a kiter I wins...

Any fast ships will obliterate my Ship, but now it is decent...

Here is one of the outcomes with Roko's Revenge...

I just noticed that Beluga, is a great ship...
as a orbiter, its super fast...

[vernal lance]

is this fine as is or do i need to replace the 2 nukes with something else?

[ionic jay]

Probably fine

[oak plaza]

Looks good...?

I really need some feedbacks...

I still have 1383212 credits left...

[past bramble]

I like the red vents looking thing on the top part

It hss potential as an imperium too

[oak plaza]

Thanks Man...

[oak plaza]

I just couldnt paint like the factions though...

[vernal lance]

youll eventually get it

[past bramble]

Trial and error

[normal kite]

except for cabal, screw their paint

[toxic ocean]

You're late...

Also...

---

If I understood properly... No more DCs after this one?!

This is horrible ;-;

I prefer DCs that are a little confused and messy than none at all. They're so much fun and even excluding this one I have SOOO MANY ideas!

[past bramble]

more like put on hiatus

[toxic ocean]

A flagship contest and a base contest and a defence platform contest, there's so much fun unique rulesets to be had too...

[strange mango]

not none ever again, just no contests for a while

[toxic ocean]

What does a while mean though, like "not in our lifetimes?"

[JK]

[slow axle]

tbh i prefer no dc at all than messy ones

[toxic ocean]

Ahh yes.

Do you pefer a life as a poor person or death? That's the same idea here.

Also they aren't even that messy.

Just rules are always subject to change and stuff.

[strange mango]

i got no clue now long this will be, as long as it takes for the dev team and architects to decide how contests should be done in modern is all i can say because it seems that i was not included in the discussion

[past bramble]

i assume its because of the quality of ships and approval of architects being a large problem and no concrete way to implement non factions atm

[toxic ocean]

So weird... You're like the contrst guy and do more good work for them than you're given credit for in my opinion, I think it's high time you're given full or at least partial control over how it should be held.

Archtects are the ship standard guys like moderators in GD [Who decide which levels are rate-worthy or not, in this case which ship is built-in worthy or not], understandable, but as far as I'm aware you've always been hosting these basically on your own.

Also... Yeah the standards are a little too high, but not like the built-ins are perfect to begin with! They're riddled woth flaws, be it logistical or visual.

I think this belongs in the rule discussion thread though.

[past bramble]

I agree with snow rather have it be polished first then it be all messy

[strange mango]

eh, i can see this fit here too as its not specifically about the rules, more so about contests in general. for the most part i do indeed host contests on my own, aside from asking advice from older hosts on occasion, but that happens behind the scenes. i also find it a bit odd i was not included in the discussion about the future of contests as im pretty much the only host doing contests at this point but im sure there is some reason for it

regardless, like i mentioned in the announcement. i do not intent to quit hosting anytime soon and will do my best to keep you all up to date

[toxic ocean]

Who were the older hosts?

[strange mango]

anyone with the tournament-host or tournament-manager role

[toxic ocean]

That's why I said you are doing much more than you're given credit for.

[strange mango]

thanks, i appreciate it. i enjoy being a host and thats largely the reason i still do it. though you are not wrong, i was not being credited at all until recently

im in the game credits now though so thats nice

[toxic ocean]

It is always nice to see somebody enjoying their work and doing it solely because of that.

[strange mango]

agreed

[vernal lance]

another goofy contest ship

i still need to make hacksaw cheaper

[toxic ocean]

Bootyful.

Moar

Conceptions.

These are the larger ships.

Named after heavy labor machinery instead of tools.

Scaffold, Tunnelbore, Wrecking Ball, maybe even OH RIGHT! ELEPHANT!
...And Bagger itself.

Of course because the budget I'll have to scrap like 3/4 if these boys 🥹

[vernal lance]

huh, wasnt nearly as inconvienient as i thought it would be

[stiff sandal]

Not much to change about that one really

[toxic ocean]

Check #1059081605420945508 please.

[vernal lance]

current contest ship lineup, also i forgot that i had a hyperjump linktothenearestsystemokbyeeeeeeeeeee-

[stiff sandal]

All that's left is to make one more to cap our budget

[stiff sandal]

Should I make another ship like ratchet, but bigger? Its a good way to end the fleet we are amassing imo.

[vernal lance]

maybe

[past bramble]

how much budget left?

[stiff sandal]

About 820K

[past bramble]

oh thats a sizeable ship

[stiff sandal]

True

[past bramble]

how much is the big one

[stiff sandal]

893,675

[toxic ocean]

M A K E A F L A G S H I P

[past bramble]

u gonna do a big flagship again nick?

[stiff sandal]

I mean, jigsaw kinda is the "flagship"

[toxic ocean]

Not now.

I have/had a flagship named ''Bagger'' planned out but too far fetched.

[toxic ocean]

Also an idea for a ship you can do with the rest of the budget— A shield kite >:)

[stiff sandal]

No

I got my own idea anyways

To close off the plan

[toxic ocean]

Hmm okie.

[oak plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-it-give-me-that-bobby-newport-gif-16327655

I really need to learn this design painting scheme...

[bronze citrus]

trying some new stuff out

[ember flare]

it has orb

[past bramble]

ball

[normal kite]

sphere

[ember flare]

is r o u n d

[lapis niche]

bulbous mass

[toxic ocean]

Spherical object.

[vernal lance]

i dont know how to transfer my supposed knowledge of faction paint theory on to you

[oak plaza]

I just the ship my dude, then I will reverse engineer it...

[vernal lance]

use door's clockwork ships i guess (specifically the one that cracks your nuts)

[oak plaza]

Oh I did, Clockwork by itself widen my horizon...
Using the 2x2 E for design is so wild...

[vernal lance]

2x2 L:

vilda's been using letters for paint since classic

[oak plaza]

Damn, I should really think outside the box for painting huh...

[vernal lance]

yeah

[oak plaza]

This is all my contest ships...
with 80 credits left...

3499920 in total...

[strange mango]

@oak plaza killer mantra, battle barge and kianas organ's prices dont quite match the given prices in the submission. could you double check that?

they are a bit cheaper ingame

[oak plaza]

Oh, I think its because I fired them...
used some of the resources...

let me just double check...

[oak plaza]

Wait, its different in the library than it is in game...

This is Kiana's Organ when placed...

[strange mango]

thats odd, maybe you got a mod interfering with the prices?

[oak plaza]

I just turned off Huge Crews just in case...

[oak plaza]

other than that no...

I dont know for real, you said resources are counted too yes...?
so thats how much that ship is...

[strange mango]

resources should be included yes

[oak plaza]

then the given price on the submission is the correct one...
the library price is without resources...

[toxic ocean]

No.

Don't forget.

Factories immediately start printing resources when the ship is spawned.

...Causing the ship's price to inflate.

[oak plaza]

but its full...

[toxic ocean]

Hmm. See what I'm going with here.

Beam strafing contraption.

[oak plaza]

This will be a better version of my Rock...

[strange mango]

i think nicks found the problem, spawning them from the library while paused the prices match. in other words, edit the submission based on the library prices and your fine

[toxic ocean]

That's the problem I talked about back when you were asking me about prices of my submitted ships.

[oak plaza]

okay...

[oak plaza]

how much is the Organ for you Blake...?
I dont know why but in my library it costs more...

[oak plaza]

okay...

[quasi axle]

As long as you have every cargo slot assigned as ammo, sulfur, etc. the blueprint cost will be the actual cost to spawn it in including storage space. But it has to be in blueprint mode, not just build mode

[strange mango]

good to know

[slow axle]

BOOOOOOOOOST

sorry off topic

[toxic ocean]

Damnit one single wardrive is not enough.

*Waspdrive.

*Warpdrive.

Damnit.

Oh right I can make the ship upwards of 800K without getting it to be another difficulty level.

Good to know.

[oak plaza]

My total is now 3,499,120...

[toxic ocean]

Thought that 750K was a cap of diff.12

[quasi axle]

Time to add some structure wedges

[oak plaza]

nah, I already posted it...
I dont wanna do that again...
hahahaha

[vernal lance]

i infected you with my inability to type properly

[toxic ocean]

I mean not like you type badly.

You just need to be more PUNCTUAL, we could say.

Kill me for this pun.

[vernal lance]

too lazy

[toxic ocean]

PUNctuation!

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[vernal lance]

puns are great

[toxic ocean]

Yaaay.

OH LOOK, A SHIP!

...Honestly needs more FE and airlocks and maybe hyperium storage, but I don't wanna mess up aesthetics of it.

Especially the diagonal armor stripes.

[vernal lance]

like fucking priestique symonora

[vernal lance]

what?

[toxic ocean]

Which by the way doing striping with armor is really good way to make a ship look prettier in case you have too much space in the innards.

[vernal lance]

hyperium storage?

[toxic ocean]

I mean why not?

Shamblefoul has it, TRC has it, why not more.

[vernal lance]

whats that?

[toxic ocean]

Hm

[vernal lance]

oh yeah right many combat ships dont have hyperium storage either

damn this thing would be a great fringe submission

[toxic ocean]

Yeaah.

[vernal lance]

if i had budget

[toxic ocean]

I love this.

Anyways need to go

[vernal lance]

i love how im making an ion ship too

an assymetrical ion rammer

[slow axle]

meta go brrr

[vernal lance]

i mean theres a glorified dc rammer

[oak plaza]

That's not even an exaggeration...
This thing is so fast...

[vernal lance]

multiple missile orbiters

hell theres even a glorified flak wall

cant forget about railfans

cant forget about the new ramming mono ships and broadsiders that orbit

[strange mango]

let me rephrase that, please try to keep meta designs to a minimum, and if you include one in your submission, specifically design it with with aesthetics in mind first. cause yes there are metas in the game, but they are not 'just a box of railguns' they look much more interesting than a ship just designed to be a meta ship

the no meta rule is a leftover from classic contests, as i based the modern rules on the classic rules

actually, no, im not changing a rule mid contest again. please dont submit meta designs this contest, though im keeping this in mind for the future

[vernal lance]

crap hopefully 2 of my would be submissions wont be breaking rules

[toxic ocean]

Don't you forget the multiple shield kites as well. Stalwart and Icarus especially.

Oh yeah Mitigator, can't forget that poece of crap :>

[toxic ocean]

Well nobody's gonna submit an actual meta ship with every piece of armor and structure (Worth mentioning all my meta ships still have really pretty structure segments and bumpers) in an aesthetic contest...

... Hopefully.

But integrating meta elements like orbiting to your design should by no means be disencouraged. Heck, it would make a design even more special in my eyes!

[toxic ocean]

Look at this I made an ion strafe-kiter.

Was it made to be unique and have a meta element in mind?

Yes.

Was it meant to be meta?

NO

...But that's just my take on it. Should've commented all that in #1059081605420945508 now that I think about it.

[strange mango]

some meta elements in a non meta ship is fine, just dont overdo it too much. like im not gonna ban a ship for including an effective ion core or an optimal interior layout

[toxic ocean]

Whew.

👍

[strange mango]

oh i did not mean to react to that post, my bad. meant to react to the question

[toxic ocean]

No problem. Happens.

[oak plaza]

I hope Kiana's Organ isn't that meta...
It has good kiting capabilities but it doesn't fan...

No AI does it and honestly even a Vega can kill it...

And Battle Barge is just a decent Orbiter...

[toxic ocean]

AI just doesn't do it any justice let me tell ya...

[oak plaza]

That's why it's not meta...

[toxic ocean]

Mhm

[oak plaza]

Besides...
I thought of the idea first not the ship...

[toxic ocean]

But... You could optomize it downto a 1.5mil >:)

[oak plaza]

Kiana's Organ is a special ship to me...

Its my girlfriend's instrument to play...

[toxic ocean]

Hmmmm that's interesting.

[oak plaza]

Nah, NAH...
I already submitted it, don't make me tear it down again...

[toxic ocean]

Okie.

[vernal lance]

church organ operator?

[oak plaza]

Oo, Christian eh...

[toxic ocean]

Yeah let me tell ya it's a gorgeous ship.

[oak plaza]

Keyboard honestly...

[toxic ocean]

You did it all the justice it deserves.