#Tournament Chat
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what an amazing tourney lmao
True gigachad, I respect it.
5 PAINTS FOR GRYFFINDOR
I mean PLAUS
DM me whatever you want to get painted
Lmao
Didnt you also say you would paint each of his swarm a different paint too
Absolutely, however his actual swarm unit is a 3-piece ship so I'm doing 3 unique designs.
Yes it is janky
I can technically take 10 into a game
He finally decided to set up his profile!
i had a dream during a nap that plaus had 1.5k subscribers and was making fortnite tutorials
i am not sane
A prediction of the future
Added to my to do list
True
Imagine having a dream in which opti turney is completed /j
pffff
Air moment
Unoptimal time management
Yeah, for somebody who can't shut up about all things ''perfectly optimal,'' he sure can't use his free time optimally 


pffft
Looking back at the last tournament I just realized something 
HAHAHHAHAH
Winning the tourney by cheating smh my head, 😔
You saved that lmao
Damn
demote to excelsior !!!!!1
Ofc we did
tournament when :3
Here #tournament-announcements message
i more meant elim lol
xD
Probably towards the end of the month like the previous ones I imagine
oooh domination tournament that isnt 5 in the morning
another tournament that's at 2 in the morning sigh
6pm on a Saturday covers most active time zones
Sorry that it’s inaccessible to you, but there’s no perfect time
there's no perfect time because pangea died :p
are there even any good players in my timezone lol
Qawa?
isn't he in the US
He’s quite a way away, anyway
quite a way away
holy fucking shit
#tournament-announcements message is tb bannable
I believe it was confirmed that TB would be considered as a bannable weapon
try quite a ways away quotable acronym with active subtitution
QAWAA
I realise this tournament is trying a lot at once
wdym?
the veto again on single elim instead of double elim and the rebalance mod too
Single elim was tried in the past
time for some blaster kite gaming
i mean agreed but its fun to mess around and find out
I am well aware, It's my first time hosting so I treat it as a new thing
Hi ! I would like to organise a mining contest !
A speed competitiont, to determine who is the best industrialist in cosmoteer !
You could try to contact a mod to get a sign up channel and a post in #events
Id probably participate
I contacted one mod already
But last time I tried to organise a constest the mod never replied
so this time I tried another one
The rules, you get a map, a budget, and a radius where you can spawn ships. Get all asteroids as fast as you can, record it, get a time
Basically a speedrun
I'm thinking 1.5 mil budget to start with
You will first spawn your ships using battle helper so we can check the values
then show that your ships don't contain any ressources that you need to collect before the race starts
Move your ship into the spawning radius using creative tools
Then game starts the frame you unpause (you can give orders before unpausing)
I'll give the map in the announcement
Let me know if you don't get a response
how to prove it was legit?
.rec?
yes
12 hours no answers :'3
I contacted two mods this time
Wow, the dakka wall is finally catching on?
Got a reply
seen pine do this already
Gauntlet is up ! Let the speedrunning begin !
Yes but pine's wasn't made for raw DPS, it also had weird splitter functions question mark?
very easy to cheat w/ a hidden mod
what is a .rec file
Since you need to show yourself loading the game we can verify that you have no mods enabled ?
The game saves your matches with a .rec format. You can find them here: C:\Users\USERNAME\Saved Games\Cosmoteer\STEAM ID\Logs
You can then load them by launching the game in dev mode, create a multiplayer lobby, load replay
But it's not a multiplayer game
It's a creative game
I don't think it records that
it can
I am not interested in mining asteroids, I avoided doing that in regular career when I played it
You can play in a private creative multiplayer lobby and when loading the replay it will let you know if mods were used
okay I'll add it to the next tournament rules. If you use the current rules I should be able to detect any splices and mods anyways
mines are gonna get banned less because they are visible in rebalance
would an unofficial regional tourney that uses ping as the restriction work?
It's already been done before. It works but limits the number of participants
@tropic zenith I've never seen you in competitive stuff before, always love it when newer players join the comp scene, best of luck!
The fool. /j
wdym?
the percieved gap in skill is huge
I’m starting to get a little nervous
oops my bad
Don't sweat it, you may not have as much experience as some of these people but tournaments are a great way to close the gap and to learn a lot about various ship archetypes and piloting. I'm rooting for you, I'd love to see a newcomer knock them down a few pegs!
In case you aren't aware, there are lots of competitive ships posted here https://cosmo-lilac.vercel.app/ that you can take inspiration from
Website for sharing, searching, browsing and downloading ships and design for Cosmoteer: Starship Architect & Commander. It contains archive of ships blueprints. Access via Discord login.
Hmmm
I also recommend that you join the excelsior discord server!
Thanks!
I have a bit knowledge as I have watched a lot of cosmoteer pvp like on saris winterwisps channel and blade tardigrade
I know some of the basic archetypes
I would strongly recommend building at least one meta ship archetype before the tourney, career and built-in ships absolutely suffer
Awesome to see more people sign up :D
Actually some built-ins are really good from ship design standpoint like some of the missile orbiter and the Cabal kites.
Still always better making your own though, having useless airlock and hyperdrives is of course a drawback.
not all hyperdrives and airlocks are useless, just most of them
They are on those ships
@hybrid tulip maybe next time you do this increase the time period or something (or even with this even). I for example didnt find time this week.
Yeah, i think I'll extend by one day and then maybe a week if like one person had time to make it. Do you think I can do that ?
Youre the host so yes of course you can do that
If you want you can ask for the participants opinion since a time extension is unfair for them.
domination:
For slowkings tournament, is the ship cost cap 6 million or 1.5 million?
it says that per ship/team it is 1.5
but max ship value is 6 mil
1.5 mil
You're only given 1.5mil credits so even if the maximum ship cost is higher it doesn't make a difference
ok tahnks
Max ship value is usually very high in most people's elimination games because it doesn't affect the given budget but makes it so that if the budget was to be raised, larger ships could be taken.
Handy if the host wants to host bossfights.
(Very underrated type of elim in my opinion).
Guys wouldn't an unnoficial bossfight tournament be epic?
Every participant could have a 6mil boss and it'd be a 4v1, and they'd just play round robin.
Or maybe it could just be [x] boss participants and 4 times as many regular participants and it'd be a team vs team games.
Sounds like a tough thing to host but a system could be constructed.
I did plan high budget fights but I didnt consider this.
Maybe but the problem is how the budged would change with more/less participants. So its hard to plan for
@gilded spindle "weapon veto"
do all missile types count as one weapon?
do other weapon types count as one weapon (lasers, cannons ...) ?
I hope that applies to mines and nukes too.
@young jacinth will you be participating in the tournamet or just spectating?
Participating
Which tourney?
Oh and @hybrid tulip (or someone else) you wanna cast with me or are you still doing your own stream thing?
Yaddah cant today
If you dare win your tournament again I'm gonna lose it all.
Mine
Thats every 2 weeks
And always anounced in #tournament-announcements
Only 3 other people so not horrible chances
Can that even be called a tournament, more of a mini pvp event.
For me, tourney is like at least 8 people.
Saris ones would get 16-24...
lmao
I have a dom concept
It's a FFA dom with very little money gain but ships drop ressources
and there's a lot of time
and if possible crew construction is off but construction on
Crew construction is off but construction is on?
Oh.
I don't think that's possible.
Yea thats not possible
career is weird
At the peak of PVP activity, we sadly don't have that many people actively playing anymore
the reason for that is the fact this one is being hosted on a sunday
i just played with tonie and spacecat ant they cant make it because they have stuff
i can barely even make it because of church
Yea Im happy that I get sign ups at all
tournament go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@quick plume @hazy brook
Legobear you did not message me can you even participate?
@young jacinth can I spectate ?
reep
also game is closed
Sure
Ill fix in a min
Afk rn lol
Paragon level management
Amazing.
@young jacinth settings are wrong
you had fog on
#tournament-announcements message first picture
thats why the sensors
nvm false call
no wait it was actually wrong
fog used to be off but it changed
ok i give up
settings are good enough\
new bracket https://challonge.com/wjqtdppa
@young jacinth sorry but im unable to attend anymore
plaus hacks again lol
give me all
funny tournament and all but next time if you are ever gonna host a dom tournament dont host it during sunday evening when most people have work or school tomorrow, saturday is a good time
and definitely do be sure that settings are okay
._.
This is starting to become embarassing.
You know what there's a reason Order of Octa chose your name in the freeforall tournament XD
HIS NAME IS PLAUS
HIS NAME IS PLAUS
Problem is Saturday often has other events such as rebal tests or official tournaments.
Idk how tape got that. The settings were ok
We can organize our timetables so there are no conflicts between tournaments. Rebalance testing seems to take place at a later time anyway
so you can always move the date, even if you dont then the people who wanted to attend will attend
I might try in the future but its hard as I have to announce them like 2 weeks ahead of time
Ill have to look at my own time table as well but I could try it for the next event I guess
yeah for some reason it showed unchecked for me but fog of war was on
weird
Saturday is basically the worse time for me but i guess you cannot please everybody
well yes but you dont even play dom so at least those could be on saturdays
Could somebody please link me a YouTube channel that has all recent tournaments?
Slowking has the livestreams on his channel https://www.youtube.com/@slowking6627/streams
I have begun making highlights of them on mine https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBNYs3AIUmfXiWwPvqEHPiQ
Plaus made an interesting tournament analysis on his channel https://www.youtube.com/@plaus6357
#1220470561012973661 message
There's no message template nor rules just a mention of messaging plaus
well thats the standart for my sign up threads lol
Both the day and time are perfect to me, for once
Saris used to have them all but stopped uploading some time ago. I thought that the game collapsed and they are no longer made.
@Blaze thanks for links
Saris got burned out and so we took over. There are still monthly tournaments, here are the details for the next one #tournament-announcements message
And ever since he's left tourneys have been nowhere close to as popular or member-heavy. What does that tell ya.
Sounds like you're saying Slow and I aren't doing as good a job lol
In that regard I'd say the number of participants has nothing to do with Saris. The PVP player base has been continually decreasing for months already
Nah obviously everything is in the 30 dollar reward 😏
Thought I'd share the number of participants from Saris's last 3 elimination tournaments:
June:23 / September:20 / October:9
And Slowking's tournaments:
January:13 / February:16
Yeah the october one really dropped the ball because it was the first one with rebalance mod, it was still very early in development, a lot of the members couldn't come and a slew of other issues.
the active player pool just seems smaller nowadays when compared to last year
Gee i wonder why
its as if there has been like 2 balance changes in 2023
@forest cedar please follow the format in the signup channel
sry
fixed it
im looking forward to this
what does this rule mean? are we unable to paint our ships?
there is a tool that let you change the thumbnail image of the ship file
so you could have the thumnail of the ship be lets say an avoider but the ship spawned is a railfan
me spawning in a swarm in place of a tb rail
shame
if you don't know what it means it doesn't apply to you
:3
p e r h a p .
I wonder if somebody's ever done this strategy in a tournament, otherwise I don't see why it'd be ever brought up or banned in the first place, barely anybody know about it anyways.
Except Gog who I've seen rocking a Jungle Dragon Yharon pixelart ship :>
The air is getting warmer around you
some rules are in reaction to stuff, others are precautions to stuff, I imagine that this rule is from when we had ship preview on and stuff about changing the ship preview was discussed
@lunar fog you signed up after all! nice
Looking forward to seeing you in action! You're free to use/take inspiration from ships posted on the steam workshop & library website if you need to
yo, can someone send the google doc for the march 30 elimination tournament rules?
can't find it anywhere on the discord for some reason
#tournament-announcements message
tyty
@young jacinth what time is the 500k tourney tmrw
Time is in announcement
Should be adjusted to time zone
“in 20 hours”
why not just put a time
constantly editing seems like so much more work
alr thx
Im not constantly editing it lmao
Its automatic
Unix timestamps
This website here is handy for creating them quickly https://discordtimestamp.com/
Easily generate a Dynamic date-time display for your Discord Messages
unix is honestly goated for that
Oh sheesh tournament in 4 hours? I probs won't be joining but was considering
maybe some other time when I have more time free
the 1 tourney host i can join in a reasonable time is now 2 am
nice
There's a 1.5mil tournament tomorrow too
cool beans
cant wait for it lol
Come back to us Enoshade, I haven't seen anyone use reactor spikes in far too long!
how do we message plaus to confirm
there is no check in
can I join or am i late
you can still join
would even be good since 8 is a nice number of participants
making a 500k in 20 minutes brb
same x-x
my ping is fucking awful rn, we'll see how it goes when its my turn
might have to forfeit my position in this tourney
ok well see
mmmm
whats the password
500k
will there be a stream or a recording?
Blaze is too loud
i think slow is loud too
it's much better
blaze is good now
@fast oracle @lunar fog
lets pray for contrationer
no time, come quick
I like how people write my username XSnow like the x and the snow were separated words
@vivid ore
gg @lunar fog ! You did a great job spreading that damage
did what i could
with the hand you were given you did well
sure if you wanna
im down
@forest cedar @sharp bane
if my internet is
alr, back to make my ion, gl
who is up next
Slowk i wanna heard why you didin't targetted the horns @gilded spindle
I mean sure you got ramlocked but the rails fired at the reactor
I'm very happy of my precise manual firing that caught the nuke laucher
@desert sky
@raven fern @young jacinth @gilded spindle i use they/them
got it
Didnt I?
probably me, I'm crap
Well sorry
did we have losers bracket or no
@lunar fog
yes
Losers bracket
That was honestly a close match, if even one deck cannon shell had made it through the gap contrationer would've destroyed that reactor
@forest cedar
i cant join, i keep timing out
i think i’ll just forfeit my position
congrats plaus, wp
we can restart the lobby
yeah
Who needs armor or shields. Just dodge
done
back when I was active I was trying to pull an oem, and this ship can easily dodge rails at almost any range... the only problem is actually executing that perfectly every time with 3 ships 💀
slowking's dodges here were great
I BROKE THE PLAUS CURSE
The curse has been lifted! Congratulations erin!
@fast oracle @sharp bane
I remember you using an emp booster squib in the nuke mod event. It was epic
in that case that was actually a sensible option considering the nature of the event
@desert sky
hey
why
does it say i lost to luna
@young jacinth
you skipped our match
????
@raven fern @gilded spindle
sorry
Lmao i just got it
Im sorry for the confusion
@desert sky
this time for real
@fast oracle patpat
i was so tired from the last round xd
that sucks
Is it done now?
btw I do not care how many times we have this conversation I'll use 360 nukes if I can't win without them
i don't care about the consequences xd
"it's not intended" complain in #1019741923893858305
nope
I support using absolutely anything that can be done simply using existing game mechanics
from explosion guns back when they existed to whatever new nuke exploits are around
it's somehow always nukes, the cursed weapon.
Also tbh feel like mines should never despawn, otherwise waiting game becomes the preferable move against them
I'm guessing they do for performance reasons
they did not despawn in classic
i like that they despawn now
my only change would be that they explode instead of despawning
f
yea rematch
Hopes i won't get banned from tournaments because all my matchs are absolute boredom
You got to play to win. Don't worry about it
Past tournaments tried to reduce lobby time as much as possible and i think they succeded, but now it's game time that is longer
This is what elevator music is for
So true
The journey was long and hard but at least now we can say that Plaus has lost one of his tournaments 😆
Atleast we don't have fights to rod i guess
who won
me/j
blaze ofc
I wasn't even suppose to play ><
People sign up and don't show
snow how did you want a demotion from adept
The demotion was never because of skills, but because of position
Very well played sno :p
i wanna play noooooooow
oof - i thought this tourney is on saturday, my bad sry. 😳
500k tournament was today and the 1.5 mil tournament will be tomorrow
sleep is good
tourney in 1h right?
What a day, I'm going to participate but i was about to resign
everything ok?
if somethings bothering you and you want to talk about it please dm me
hug
For clarity are you talking about real cancer or...
yes
pancreatic, close family, he lasted 3 months
they didn't even try to treat it
it's ok i don't want to talk about it, and less here
Sure... Could I say something in dms?
sure
the rebalance mod version should be 0.7.0 right?
sure i thought i late bc i got pinged twice
I'm excited
I mean because we have so few people we could always vote on making it double elim
I'll put it up to a vote since people may not have time
ok i have the mod
Bracket
https://challonge.com/1unu6zph
oooooooooof me v plaus immediately
gl
seeds are backwards fyi
seeds are randomised
ah
wp contra you should have banned rails on the second one
@lunar fog you did great considering its your first tournement, tb rail is really really hard
yea you did well dont sweat it!
wasnt waiting for tbs tbh
yea i dont just spam wall :p
the maneuver you did in match 2 was fantastic
im scared now :p
ty, like in first one, th tb combined with the strike he gave me with the unicorn horn
dont be, im a nervous weakling :3
that was killing
same
gl guys
yeah it does that
your all good dw
I'll remember these words
cant believe the freaks got into an accident on the highway :p
i recomend running blaze v moo after this @gilded spindle
@fast oracle @young jacinth well played from both of you
Yea sorry for the counterpicks luna
Indeed. The second game was really good.
unlucky
the last one was amazing
So far it's intresting how little the meta changed from the rebalance mod
when i fought, my ion defenetly had a big change on dps
tbh
i barely could puncture through shev
What was password again?
tbh i dont think we'll see anything new this tourney
Ion dps was unchanged through the rebalance mod
Well now i'm looking at it ULs got badly nerfed
Sadly I built ships only for rebalance mod, but couldn't join at the start
audio is ok
Blaze sounds fine.
huh there is alot less players
12
im going to guess blaze v plaus finals
@tropic zenith
dont pressure me like that
I already played one very bad match
@tropic zenith was too slow and has been skipped
no clue why some of my shots were hitting my barrel and why the dcs lost opperators
ill go over footage afterwards to see
You have a lot of front armor, you add rotation speed and you get your rails hitting your own ship
ill figure out a fix eventually cause that front armor is very needed
@young jacinth @short tartan
Amazing fight
that was a cool fight guys
bo3 or bo5?
wp plaus
the second fight was a bit hot for plaus i feel
i thought you were gonna bring an ion
i need to add extra ammo to my morbitors after that damm
his mind games were too strong
i feel like people ban rails because rails play very differently to a lot of things
I was hoping to counteract your tb with a tb cg to test it out, but I forgot to configure it up
@gilded spindle Is it really neseccary to ping the contestants in the tournament announcements chat? Makes it pain to navigate through the channel.
That's the way it's been done for a long while
next time i think we shouldnt do rng seeds @gilded spindle it gives random advantages and disadvantages which im not a fan of
Rushed this one so that was the quickest way
plaus
of course
nvm, unsure of its age
1-1
@willow cargo after the tournement is done do you want to do a bo3 to determine 3rd?
yea i was thinking abt that, thatd be cool if possible
yea sure
@gilded spindle would you be down to host and stream the 3rd place match?
who would that be?
me vs shevv
God.
other option?
congrats!!!
How many more times will he.
whats the context?
At this point it feels pityful to congratulate him xd
nothing I'm just sad
why so?
dw
''Looks like Plaus won again''
Instead of ''looks like morbiter won again''
That should be the new slogan of competitive Cosmoteer.
At this point we should have a Plaus tournament where Plaus needs to try his hardest to lose, apparently that's harder for him than winning.
Well played @young jacinth !
Tough.
You may have won a tournament but you ain't winning any grammar awards
Sorry lol, GGs
Take my banter with a grain of salt none of it's serious.
dw Ill pay you back in game
Okay.
well done to everyone
Congrats @young jacinth,
Neat excelsior database plugin.
@raven fern @gilded spindle you really need figure out how to differentiate between me and luna, i know its hard cause we are both trans ion players but yeesh lol
(lighthearted btw)
also the reason i went with the full structures instead of any wedges was to have it so when a structure got destroyed the gap it left was small
I was trying my damndest to say rift but blaze said luna every second time so it confused me
i broke the streak yesterday
hey theres 3 of us trans ion players
i thought you labeled yourself as transneutral not tranfem?
i mean
ur original message said "trans" not transfemme
but yes i am not transfemme
I'm crap, what else is new 😅
I do also think blaze should get into the habit of deafening when he's up lol
It's what I've been doing up until this tournament
i forgot, my bad
you missed me i got defeated by plaus too early :P
You did great, it’s not possible to get everything right
Of course, I was mostly joking ^^
thats true
20 k of point defense? Who does that?
Although my opinon might not matter cause I am not getting up that early for the tourney. I do like the idea of it.
0 sign ups in 29 hoursplaus fell off
I expected this lol
A better concept would be a no weapons tournament, where no damaging parts are allowed
@young jacinth #tournament-announcements message This is epic.
I was used to being obsessed with making ''One of Each'' types of ships in Classic, this is such a good callback.
I though you might enjoy this one. Although you might be the only one
:c
I'd say host it ONLY if at least 4 people sign up.
A 3 person round robin can hardly be called a tournament.
Im happy to play a 2 player tournament
I may play if I can reasonably find the time to build
I'm pretty sure this is another one of Plaus' schemes to win a tournament. Knowing him he probably already has 50 different super sweaty tryhard meta designs of one-of-each ships.
I have been building those ships for months
Winning official tournaments was just a side project for me
the plaus conspiracy
He confirmed it YAYY
why mags required
Thay are not?
"chaingun + mags"
i too thought it was required because of how it is written
then what does those mean:
"disruptors + any blasters
ions + prisms"
can't i just use ions and no prism and disruptor and no blaster ?
can i use mags and no chaingun ?
Finalizing verdict: Don't trust a German to make a very specific and wording-important ruleset.
Xd
from a math (they have other symbols) or computer science background, + means a logic OR
but with disruptor + any blaster, it souds like a AND
and with this one it would mean i could just put a mag and skip putting a chaingun
You are free to do any of those
prism armor
i don't really know, i not really better.
but you could have written an exemple:
chaingun + mag means:
chaingun, chaingun and mag, or just mag
afterall, it doesn't feel like common sense to interpret you could put a mag, but no chaingun
in an all weapon tournament
we will interpret what is the most logical to us
Huh Im pretty sure my tests included flak but I somehow forgot it. Thanks for mentioning it!
I added it
Should I pair them up?
/j but i was building a ship and i would love to have them together xd
hm I feel they are different enough to warrant separation
In CS its the V operator that signifies OR
counter strike ? sorry i had to
All weapons tournament is using the rebalance mod, correct?
There's no mention of it in Plaus's announcement so I don't think so
@young jacinth ?
its not
got it, ty
Does ammo in storage count as part of the cost of a weapon type for the all weapons tournament @young jacinth ?
no
Ty again!
@cloud escarp please dont use the signup channel for questions. The reason for the time is that in the past the least amount of people complained about not being able to make it.
whoop, sorry
Im always open to reschedules though
Especially in a tournament with so few participants
I was gonna sign up, but my past weeks have been jam packed lol. I finally started making a design today though
even though I won't be in this tournament, I still wanna make a goofy design lol
Alright
@unreal crown hey youre the only one that signed up lol. Will you be ready in 25 min?
Well guess I win the tournament
whoops
i said i would make something and then i just plain forgot
also what are you thinking holding a tournament at 8am
thats sleeping time
agony
ohh youre british arent you
lmao nick is from georgia (the country)
oh no i was talking about plaus. cus yknow time zones
isn't plaus german?
there are other countries than the UK in europe
close enough
Basically the same thing
If you're talking about me, then if only, I'd love to have a British accent.
I'm pretty sure Plaus is German.
Oh really?
That's not the first time an Austrian was widely thought to be German by the masses
If you know what I mean
Coincidence?
My worldview has been shattered lol
#tournament-announcements message
@gilded spindle Do it have any details if it's official or not lmfao
oh, it is
yippee! explodes
@gilded spindle typo :p
aarch is my fav month :)
ooh this is exciting, bragging rights and a secret nice thing :3
sorry i was in a proofreading mood :p
Disagreed, but it is my second favourite just behind Dezember :>
I appreciate the pedantism 👍
We have something in common.
polar lives
What are some examples of “exploits that have been deemed unfun to watch”? I’m more curious than anything
pip abuse. for some reason if you set a ships flight direction to anything but forward the pip in the top right corner doesn't work
as in you can't really use it to target parts
That sounds like a bug that needs patching lol
Things like the PiP bug, 360 nuke and so on.
Bugs/exploits that are totally acceptable and fun include locking and nuke range extension.
it is! it actually stems from a bug that i reported about 3 years ago :juneto:
Lmao
I'm going to put a poll up and see what people deem unfun
specifically if people are okay with 360 nukes usage
why 360 nukes
how is that a bug comparable to pip bug
it's like not ebing able to target a specific part, but instead it's the converse
you're able to fire when you're not supposed to
unfun advantage basically
why am i not supposed to fire whenever i want.
Why not ban manual firing of deck cannons to hit the sides of a ship in a spin ram too
why not ban avoider blaster shots arcing and hitting my crs from the sides
why does everyone treat shooting nukes manually like if it was cancer paint
that's apples to oranges, though;
the shot doesn't exactly turn 180 degrees to fire at otehrwise impossible angles
that's within the laws of physics
because it's not a feature
locking
walt likes that, might as well be a feature in place of hinges
probably in the same category, but that's apples to oranges when it comes to competitive viability
360 nukes is a buff that nukes dont need considering how strong they are competitively
I'll be serious.
My argument is that 360 nukes are a consequence of not having ai controlled weapons. Banning 360 nukes leaves players that don't use ai controlled nukes in a disadvantage because they have to make sure that they are not launching them illegally
I won't bother to avoid an illegal launch if I know it will have an effect in a tourney, I don't care about the consequences. You can do anything you want.
that'a not the point, the point is you win matches because of it, and that it stems from unintended (and for some, unwanted) behavior
i guess we ban diags and orbiting
oh and with that let's ban fuel pods too
Oh no, I win matches using manually launched nukes
what's next, winning a tourney?
well at least this wasn't the time nukes were like missiles
If 360 nukes is legal i want pip bug to be legal, why should I cater to those that locks their pip
Anyway when bug fix walt, too many things are not working as intended atm
It's an unfair advantage that is not intended, looks like the same picture to me. Yes, it is less harmful and obnoxious than pip exploit, but that isn't saying much, unfair advantage is unfair advantage.
"why is it unfair"
"because it's unfair and not intended"
i don't think it's unfair
i agree, it's not intended, just like locking, nre, autoram, reactor pikes.
I mean havent you clearly noticed cosmoteer players ban things not because it's fair, but because they do not want to fight it.
mrt also has unintended features with fuel pods, but they're in the game, so as long as they're not annoying the other person (like cancer paint or pip bug) i don't see a reason to ban it.
the thing is, i don't understand why these are so hated
Imagine being a tournament player and pick a flak orbiterwall (harder counter) but instead loses the tournament to a well placed nuke from one of the two only players that use this technique.
It's natural to think it's unfair in my opinion
Although i second you, if the bug was exploited and popular people would have time to practice against it, and Walt would patch it faster due to it's impact on balance.
I feel like 360 nukes fall into the same category as armed mines phasing through shields - it’s an unintended advantage that’s a bit annoying to avoid using in battle
But I think since it’s in the game, it’s known about, and it doesn’t look to be getting patched soon, it’s fine to use
I just hate it when players have to focus on things other than winning when playing a tournament match
360 nukes are only relevant in spin rams. If you don't want that nuke on your back don't spin ram a nuke orbiter. (yes I'm using my skill issue card)
armed mines?
ah that
i mean, what do you want to do to police it anyway ?
and because you can do it without wanting too. it's a rule that will make teeth grind, or it's just directly banning mines
that's exactly why i brought up mines as a comparison
btw, what is pip ?
Picture in picture. The window that you see upper right
so, something i don't use. but that competitive player do
so what if ppl do launch them illegally?
i misread that
does having nuke launchers set to fire at target not do the same?
no, you can't do that with ai weapons
it's manual weapons control exclusive
i mean i have set them to fire at target but you need to launch them manually
I personally think that manual nukes are better in general, you have much better response time on the launch. If you use the rotate camera to ship it's a lot better to launch them manually
the disadvantage is that targeting them takes more time, so you have to set an aproximate target beforehand
I've seen you blaze fail a few nukes because of slow response times, but i have to admit that your targeting is amazing
I don't fail nukes because of the response time. I know I'm good with them but I'm not infallible and just miss my shots sometimes.
I find that manual nukes is by far the inferior firing method. You can't fire & target them at the last second with a single click and so you just miss opportunities.
It also has the disadvantage of wasting nukes if you're slightly out of range and fire too early
@gilded spindle @raven fern could we have a poll to allow 360 nukes?
I find that I enjoyed the intense standoff against Rift when she was using Nukes against me in the last tourney. I think she even got a good hit on me at one point. I think it was 360 nukes but I could of been wrong. I do think there is a steeper learning curve for it that would make it somewhat enjoyable. Also, if someone doesn't want to deal with nukes that is what the veto is for.
360 nukes being banned is stupid because it is so easy to do it on accident and the game doesn't even try to stop you or have any inconvenience from normal play when u do do it like with other bugs
you need to purposefully set up pip bug, nre, mine through shield, etc but 360 nuke easily happens in regular play
Is there a way to keep weapon arcs visible even when not in direct control mode?
u can do it w/ mods but it will be ugly
That sucks sorry
People from the far east are the most bullied when it comes to tournaments :[
I'm way closer to middle east and even I have a bad time with a lot of them, let alone those guys.
can you postpone the schedule for the dom tourney maybe @young jacinth ?
like have it on first week of may?
so we dont have 2 tourneys on the same weekend
The current state of tournaments is a mess lol.
I really dont like to postpone tournaments but I think that would be best here. Thinking about it this date might also be bad for the other dom players. Id do same time as the official tournament but a week later. Still sucks for you but the na players complained about the time last time.
I can also do 2 dom tourneys in a row for different time zones.
why can't earth just be flat, for the tourneys
its fine i can live if its on a different weekend, i just cant do 2 midnight tourneys back to back
🤩🤩🤩 dom tournament
Why cant it be the Waltverse where everything's flat 
join the dom side anakin
that's not burger, it's a nuke sandwich
Walterman: Into the Walterverse.
Or I suppose Walterman: Into the Walternate Realities.
Actually godlike, this is the kind of shit we need more of done with paint.
Things like Hansel's rickroll and now this.
Made shippack on steam
Forget burger king, you are the burger champ.

🍔
Burger chomp
@last cave This may interest you and the dom community #tournament-announcements message
this better not be your fourth
lmao
There is a good chance that Ill still change it to a later date
bruh sent in wrong channel
@hazy brook @last cave @vocal cloak changed the tournament date

Nvm im stupid its a noon for me
however i cant make it anyway 
Anf the other tourney is prom night asdaskfgasfasda
oooof
just don't go to prom, high school doesn't matter
Answer generator for lazy people (Or people who are too afraid to say ''I don't know'')
Its the fanciest of the 4 main school dances where im from, guys in suits girls in dresses
you ask a girl to go to prom w/ you, basically just an excuse to start dating someone
@hollow socket Please follow the sign-up format properly
dude saris isn't even in the server anymore
Oh so it's like a school Ball.
That actually is probably the best description. Although, there was not a lot of slow dancing at my prom unfortunately.
yeah they only play like 4-5 slow dance songs its tragic
ill post about in in my dom server
imagine being in a dom server (im definately not in the same server)
i would post the link here if i could
Do you want to add it to #links?
How?
i could quickly make a banner and send it to like reddit or steam
Nice
JOIN NOW OR ELSE A 69420 TB RAIL WILL BE AT YOUR DOORSTEP BY TOMORROW
PvP propaganda!
sorry, i can't understand automaton propaganda
Peak efficiency in signups
Almost forgot that I still have to sign up
lol
I was hoping to have another 8 signups with bo3 rounds again.
theres still a day or two left to sign up, irrc Erin and Anti are waiting until they can absolutely confirm avalability
True. I am just nervous is all. Although, maybe I should be worried about getting knocked out of the tourney again for a third time by you. Lol
has it been 3 times?
damm
Just twice. Just worried history repeats itself or something like that haha
cosmoteer is a time sink, the more time the more better usually, if you want i could go over some ship building stuff with you and share some knowledge
Well I got schooling and stuff so if I had more time I would take you up on it. I am building a "meta" cg rammer this time around to see if that works better.
@rain loom btw your sign-up message says 11am MST but the tourney is actually an hour later at 12pm MST
just thought i’d let you know :p
remove daylight savings time
I don't have daylight savings time due to my state being smart and not having those shennanigans. I should be ready none the less. Ty though for looking out for me on it.
@young jacinth how about you recruit people into the dom tournament just like you recruited me in march but instead do it before the tournament to get more players in
maybe threaten them if not enough
Is the elim tournament tomorrow?
yes, indeed
(Chess pieces ship intensifies)
@gilded spindle can you not do rng tournament seeds this time? imo its unfair to newer players
Maybe I will but only if I get the chance. Feel free to do so yourself
Good idea
Sure, if I wake up on time to set it up in a timely manner
Who do you need to be your alarm in the morning so you can set it up?
good luck to everyone
Hmmmm, should my rustbucket self sign up if it's not too late, the tournament seems to be at an acceptable time frame for me, how come.
Thinking if I should play or not
I don’t want to do plaus on it and win my own tournament but I also want to experience it again
I don't like when hosts play their own tournaments because it distracts them from casting and getting good tournament shots.
The plan is to mute when I play
Though I won't play if that's what people would prefer
I dare you to try
That's np
There's no stakes in this tournament aside from bragging rights so don't panic too much about it
bet
Inscriptions end when ? 1 hour before ?
I recommend deafening so you can't hear blaze
also don't forget to do the seeds!
TBs are bannable right?
yes
Don't you get champion role?
Well i guess that also just bragging rights
@gilded spindle Rules say ship preview is on,is that true?
Unfortunately I can’t as then he’d be deafened in recording
That’s a mistake, fixing when I’m home
Yeah
best he can do is turn off volumes
Even then no since my obs is scuffed and records desktop audio
unplug you headphones/speakers 
ah alr
Well we are up to 16 players. Better than I was expecting.
awesome
the tournament timestamp says 2pm my time (EST) but from what i've been told it's an hour earlier?
is the tourney in 2 hours or 1 hour
it is
tourney should be in 2 hrs
6:00 PM Saturday, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is
2:00 PM Saturday, Eastern Time (ET)
what about CST
Just type in 6pm UTC and it should convert to your timezone
LMAO I JUST NOTICED THE "bragging rights"
maybe where you live doesn't observe daylight savings?
remove timezones
I still have to make the king D:
remove fricking timezones
and the mini pawns OH NO
is the time stamp messed up?
because its at 6pm UTC
<t:1714240800:F>
no, the timestamp is right
hmmm
Yeah it's been good for me
good luck to those who need it and bad luck to those who dont
and as all ways, time to get called luna again :3
Gl to you too Luna
glhf everyone
good luck everybody!!! cya in battle :3
Your co-host endorses crew abuse
Gl all
every self-respecting elim player should abuse their crew to their limit
nope