#Tournament Chat
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remember to have the balance mod active!
true
It is
@jagged flume are we using the new rc?
I doubt it
yes but I'll try to use competitive ships instead of fun worse ships
Yea
this is why i use small reactor ships
the problem is they either boom win in an instant or fizzle lose in an instant
i've yet to do the resctorpike into dispodable rail sniper combo effectively in a tournament
have done in casual spars and yes it is very effevtive against everybship type
bur very rng and positioning dependent
ugh another version of the mod?
yep
And my positioning is uh, not the best at the best of times
Alriiighty when is this starting.
Somewhen
@left kestrel use this channel instead.
saris will send a message soon and it will start
Come join me chop parsnips while you wait
Good for me if it drags I could paint some more of my potential tourney ships :>
soon is hopefully in the next 10-20m
Sneaky ๐
No chainguns in sighy
i dont see it
might see one from me
is the tourney being streamed?
it will be when it starts
yes
it starts soonโข๏ธ
it will be streamed there
Where can I stream the tournament
One can't stream the tournament, the tournament host Saris will handle that.
watch it?
i'd suggest you to avoid recording software while playing because it probably will make the match laggy
In the worst case scenario it'd crash.
on that youtube channel
yes
Yes, and anytime
thanks
you can see past tournaments there too
i will be back in 20 minutes, suprise thing sorry
nevermind
still here
my mom wanted me to go pick up my sister in the car im not allowed to drive. she is screaming at me.
oh
she is going to pick my sister up.
I don't think we need to know all your life details but sure.
No nothing.
You have my sympathies.
my family is as mentally stable as me ๐
...Now call me a mod hater, but I think that the lack of participants is caused by the fact that this tournament includes a mod.
Which is fair, you can't force everybody to download (and learn the mechanics of) a mod just to participate in a tournament.
Yeah, mods generally push people away even if the changes are marginal
And also in my opinion, for a Cosmo tournament to be a solid and long-running event it needs a minimum of 16 members. Unfortunately that wasn't possible in this tourney ๐
True.
we're just 11
It changes up a supremely tested game and requires it to be re-learned from a non-fundemental, but still significantly lower level.
Yes, only 11 ๐
12 if Blade 690 was here.
yea but testing the rebalance is worth slightly less full tournaments
it's more important for the long term health of the competitive community
agreed
Hey should I really be painting ships right now instead of prepping for tourney? :>>>
no
Yeah I agree.
It was a joke question
But still it's funny.
My cyan boi is turning out hot (or cold because it's moreso a cold color)
Can I bake my parsnip before the tourney starts :agony:
I eill not be testing this theory today
ah oops mb
will wait until brackets announced at least
Oh torney is now.
parsnip baking comes before tournament
set up some speedrun.com splits as encouragement
saris ๐ฅบ
....he scheduled it
saris should move the official start time to 7:30 pst so it starts on time more often
gimme tourney, gimme your blood to watch flow
As a uni studeny and a european I'd prefer late night nowadays tbh but what time would thst be for asia and oceania
almost midnight for southeast asia
Saris is 25 minutes late
alright... done sitting here waiting on the dude that scheduled it.... what a waste of time
wow
Well the main goal isnt to attract new players
i mean, it's true it's not just a stream, it's an event that needs its participants presents, but damn
Yes it is
The secondry goal is to test the mod
@jagged flume ???
Technical difficulties love you guys. There waa apparently a power surge at some point while I slept
oh ok
oh wow
RIP
that sucks
Ah, power and internet issues. Always a pain and always at the worst times.
Wouldn't be a cosmoteer tournament without some kind of technical difficuties
Hmm, only twelve participants. Would it be preferable to just push it to next week again for a better start time?
Nooo saris is back for real I won't have time to finish painting my tourney ship ๐ฅน
Oh.
Also blaze left
So 11
yeah
Air is present
Ahh
same
Then well have 20 again next week
Yeah me too.
I would much prefer today
...You guys are saying this stuff like you won't be present for next week lol
maybe do a quick poll?
Can case in point that: If it gets pushed to next week, 50/50 on me joining for both better and worse. (There's a thing that might or might not pull me away then, which is largely why I never signed up thus far.)
Its been unanimously "today" thus far Rift ๐
Could we just host it today and end this?
We don't even have 16 members.
saying this as someone who has already cancelled events todsy for the tournament and would rather do it now than have to cancel more things next week
Gotcha, gotcha
Would we not just do it all today?
Eh?
^
I don't think it'll be any more than 4 hours to be fair.
Or we could do a BO3 double elimination throughout two days.
Not sure, just a thought.
this doesn't feel serious enough to warrant bo3 double elim to me (I am biased, saying this as someone who is joining for fun)
Yknow back in the day it was the norm not the exception to be an hour late
Fate just wanted to uphold tradition
horrifying
Have fun Eno!
IVI going for his tournament standard coffee break the second it was time for the tournament
i have seen my fair share of reassembly tournament stream start 30 minutes in advance and the tournament itself 30 minutes late due to technical difficulties
Reassembly is a funny case because you don't need the players
i know
so i take it we are playing today?
and that makes it both better and worse for technical difficulties
Yeah working on it
alr
i came to watch a tournament
Nice.
we are starting soon if u still want to play
I can only stare at my computer so much
No not talking about you saris.
chat went dead cause we are full of anticipation and have nothing to talk about
Or are baking turnips
that 2
In a lot of chili sauce
aka the correct way
I love the Tournament chat talking about all things tournament-related ^-^
Joking of course.
Truely
Wish I knew how to cook properly ๐
Oh also even with this much spare time on hand I'm not sure if I'll be finishing my ships I started but couldn't end T-T
Thanks obsession with tesla coils you really helped me prepare for the tournament better.
I do have it downloaded, fortunately I'm not that forgetful.
i had 5.1
Rip could you imagine if you tried playing with it.
@sonic flame and @short tartan are up first, password is omega
#tournament-announcements message Yay ^v^
@sonic flame where you at bruv
Apparently Air is also not attending
@young jacinth and @sterile flame are you guys here?
Demon eye isn't
yeah
Yes
Ok you guys are up first instead
From 12 to 10 as if this was a stacked tournament already ๐ฅน
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oh I'm gonna go up again Nick if I win r1
arent you up like right now
rift vs me on the finals, i see it
if demon eye doesn't show up my first round is against Nick oh no
it's gonna happen
well at least it's not slowking lmao
you can win against nick i believe in you
I'm gonna play a ship that nobody's ever see before
You and Slowking are fairly evenly matched if anything.
i can say we've fought a few times, and ehhh that's why i'm 'fraid
well so am i
@left kestrel vs @upbeat ridge up next!
He was here just a second ago
cerulean
omega
^
F
RIP
@sterile flame The thing that makes Fossil relatively good against other missile orbiters, aside from the pretty minute PD is the fact that it goes backwards and allows all the missiles to line up at the armor head that can tank a lot.
@mossy laurel you then
oh no i fight him already?
This is why I hate alts
wrong me lmao
prob account loss stuff
My aptโs wifi went out :I i cant join the tourney i think
damm
awwwwwwwwwwww
this tourney is going well
yeah
Yup
12 people and 33% of them are just gone.
unfortunate
We can put you off for a very long time Erin
I mean you were at the bottom already
how long are we going to give demon eye?
this ship wasn't really designed for mirrors.I was focusing on ions and deck cannons.
@sonic flame
mines are going to be like nukes in the way that you want to place them at the front of the enemies ship
?
as in you want to launch them when decently close
Quite a tournament so far
see this is why i hate kiters
agreed
kites awful
Hey, this is a tournament it's about winning first and foremost
yes
yup
this is why i didn't want t) p|ay this tourney rift
you still have a chance
Wasn't the strat vs kiters to stall for 8 minutes?
yeah but i can't quite do that now can i
The best way to kill a kite, is with a big railfan that has 8 accelerators
@surreal pecan vs @short tartan then
what if they have a rammer
yeah rift vs nick
Tbs
good luck to both :D
Not enough firepower then
Then cut budget from thrust
oh that really sad so many people left while the tourney bearly started
yes :(
@surreal pecan waiting on you
Have fun
lmao
We need to give nick another 5 minutes so he can finish up
Heh, I'd rather not
the tourney turns into watching nick paint
Yeah i hate to hold up the tourney but i couldnt expect my aptโs wifi would go out :(
Things working yet for you Erin
No
XDDD
Done
we are giving you some time to join erin
can i sign up now to fill in the empty slots
xd
not enough paint, more paint
Yes, if you'll stick around
yay
me now?
awesome shot rift
ok now it makes no sense for me to join
You can still join
where would i fit in bracket?
with erin?
enoshade vs erin right?
yea
Against luna?
@short tartan your so scared of the mines. Its okay to run into a few so you dont hav to fly in an disadvantages way
i mean she has basically won by now
tokd you guys we all manifested it
No love for nick
#boycott
:(
lmao
no love for clutch
Welp rift did great.
well it's bo3 anyway, if nick win there still a chance for rift
Why is he in chat xD
incredible
mans not gonna do jack squat
cos the match is over for them
Erin you got it working?
yes
At that point I was just stumbling upon trying to save all my unfinished protypes so I really wasn't in tourney preparation.
It was real fun though, and that's why I'm here :)
he?
I know thats the joke...
sorry i have no humour
oh, didn't know
I wast expecting that
awesome
like-minded individuals we are
@forest cedar where you aaat
just a heads up <3
damm
Gonna restart my laptop, itโll be quick
yeah, my ship can be fragile and nicks fossil lives on outlive out last so I didn't want to spend health
alright i got it working
Fossil Backnuke was a mistake.
@sharp bane ya there
this tourney............
Certainly is the tournament ever
i think enoshade joined
Deck cannon changes probably not surviving makes me sad. Figuring out how and whether to pair factory adjacency bonii to make 5 or 4 factories to feed two deck cannons was a fun challenge.
They'll likely be implemented in a fashion that you just need a radar for the buff, but will have vanilla cannons otherwise
that would be cool
The real thing for that is the slower fire rate nerf Since slower fire rate leads into smaller factory requirements and lower crew counts.
erin should win because ions
Could we see updated bracket?
yes please
very cool
Good luck!
I might need it
xD
You should be more confident
ah crap i slept
Toomucherin more like toomuchlag ;~;
F
I can fit you back into a loser bracket section DemonEye
new bracket me vs demoneye
no harm intended this opportunity is too good to pass up (meme not image)
gonna check where the tournament is (if anywhere)
oh god 20+mins of pain
missed prev convo
actually i think i did
just in a non-complete disqualification
I meant no showed but it was still right lol
oh enoshade will win
huh
rip rock
consider enoshade basically being rusty af
I think I know what I'm going to run
erin wins?
yes.
yeah F
you should be, I'm very scary :3
F
no eno win
F
front armor was too important
reactor bomb
oof gg
nah
..were mods stored in appdata?
don't have one (yet)
@fast oracle vs @sharp bane now
C:\Users\USER\Saved Games\Cosmoteer\COSMO_ID\Mods
omw
o, saved games
easily forgettable folder ๐
Bracket currently
anyone has the- forget i asked
can i still join or no?
bracket
DemoneEye and Kine are both now in the bracket
is it losers bracket next or am I up next?
lmao eno
spoil
stream lag ๐ฟ
wow
Jesus
pike W
pike w
@sharp bane Add sensor on your dementer alpha please.
Wow, not even any further elaboration just boom
IONS
Wow, flashbacks to my match with luna lmfao
see that the reason i left pvp
gg
@short tartan vs @young jacinth now
:D had that wedge but it got messed up by losing parts to ion damage
very wp luna!!
fun matches all.
we're doing the winners/losets thing again?
You did great Eno, I adored the wacky combo FINALLY working out.
"Plaus, known as Plaus"
-Saris
waiting for the day i get namedropped like 5 times
(for names)
very traditional ul orbi railtrap
I was considering bringing the assymetrical trap pair again but thought that without being fitted with sensors and without the element of surprise it wouldn't work out
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Ouch, that was brutal
@gilded spindle vs @fast oracle
I was very convinced of a railfan
last time i saw it i was in a dom game with saris
reminds me of a match I had in an early access tournament :D
He said that lol
I panicked
Oof, that was rough
Do ultralights actually get countered that hard by cg alphas or did something else go horribly wrong
You can still win @short tartan !
considering nuke flings are possible, not on that soecific matchup
Yes countered
Oh yea right
Figures
Rift didn't know what the opponent was and didn't face their shields properly. If they'd seen their opponent it would have gone a lot better, and the shields maaay have survived the burst?
though still havily favored
ik!
Ul nukers have good chances
yeah
Makes sense
The thing is that you only need to last against the initial burst and your opponent has no sustain
And that kids, is why you sensor โจ
But not when surprised without setup
(To be fair they didn't save me)
was expecting a railfan so I panicked and had a skill issue
my newest ship has a sensor none of yall seen it before
Maybe Slowking and Lunastro are in a practice match?
Nope
nope
nah
Names in lobby
:[
slowk ๐ฅ
I was expecting rf 2x in a row so brain went from tank to PD
This tournament so far has been pure brainrot tbh
I think I mindgamed myself @young jacinth
sorry
PvP tournament featuring the Balance mod, made with help from large portions of the competitive community. Thanks to many people for assisting, and Redstone for making the majority of the mod.
0:00 Stream Starts
27:39 Match 1
35:18 Match 2
52:05 Match 3
1:04:53 Match 4
1:10:17 Match 5
1:17:12 Match 6
1:23:08 Match 7
1:32:35 Match 8
1:39:43 Matc...
here
Yea lol
i have no clue how well my network will perform and i havent touched the game since september
yolo
that's just mindgames rift
yeah
Kine download the mod and practice right now otherwise I'll make fun of you for losing
but instead of scaring him I got him to switch ships
Stream is becoming a radio station
got the mod already
saris actually not breaking character at all in the stream
I could have won the 2nd match if I brought my snowpiercer
is the stream up
Ye
OH this is interesting
saris really out here "tsk tsk tsking" me
Wow discord randomly crashed for me.
there is nothing scarier in fog of war than seeing an opponent spawn with 2 ships imo
Oh no the rock ๐ฟ
gg
lmfaoo
afterwards I'm gonna watch the stream through and dissect my matches
10/10 start
I should not be laughing
KA Gล ME[H]
oof
Ouch
damn
very similar shot to the one I hit luna with
great shot from slowking
surprised the first two fans were too far to fire
railbopping
devastating roid
rock nuke rail shoot
rock counters rail counters nuke counters rock
rock railfan nukers
cosmoteer-branded hand game which is nothing like rock paper scissors,.
woww nice flank gg
third eye is hard to counter
slowking being an utter menace this tourney
That flanker gameplay was great.
it's off meta in the best way possible
i have but one hope
Luna's ship having near railproof armor on 75%+ of her ship was quite prepared vs it actually.
bracket update?
not rly, it's one or the other
the chaingun ship I saw in tourney seemed very strong, but I have not researched or played as/vs chainguns yet
are they any good generally or just that matchup?
Theyre good generally
it was cause I was both countered and panicked
but still awesome ships
oof
oof but in the other way
Ah, chainguns absolutely tearing through exposed systems.
I guess a bit like flak but actually focused on offense
Theyre pretty good against shields too
flak was always good at tearing up soft interiors too
any burst is good against shields and CG is effectively just long burst
jumpnuke time
@jagged flume will we play the loser matches today
wait no
Yeah probably
I did warn about PD saris
oooof
Rift I'm going to become purturbed, I messaged Redstone to fix it four times do you want the logs
upsets again
mirror, nice
lmao
great match
nice
Poor slowkie
eh what can you do
slowk was managing the one saris eas focusing on tbh
no matter how you look at it that spinner is really hard to crack
slow should use my tool to balance that ship :)
@sterile flame vs @sharp bane up first
We're doing the loser's bracket today since it's gone fast enough, Plaus and Slowking
sure
Could we see bracket saris?
Now that loser's bracket is starting to be the one getting attention.
oh we doing this 1 day?
Yaay saris does a critic's rant now ^v^
i hope i dont end up 6 am
idk if I'm more afraid of toothless, enoshade or Juno
probably enoshade cause I haven't played against him that much
@jagged flume fow range is 400
lmao
800 with sensor
Plaus is the final boss
lol
you vs toomuchlag
^
if I meet them I'm so bringing the nuke orbi
or even better
a PD wall
tho that might be considered abusing a bug
Hey that joke is mine #1020489415476396043 message
it's gonna be slow vs plaus again xd
enoshade piking be like https://youtu.be/_1VLXxXh2vg
bro just tolerate it smh
@sonic flame vs @vocal cloak
@jagged flume holy shit that was loud
I swear I will ban both of you if neither of you show up comme oooooooooon
the tsk thing
hold on
when someone fails a maneuver
@sonic flame
@sonic flame yo ant
@vocal cloak
kine's in
ah
yes?
it's ant we're waiting for
hi ๐ฅบ
did saris really start with just kine lmao
yes lmao
n*ick
you mean n*ck
n*ck
Or j*no
o hi
get in
just as he gets here
Uhoh
@jagged flume
rock
@jagged flume holy batman smokes
so how do i watch an ongoing game
You dont
i got too caught up in creative
join once they're finished
@jagged flume holy __ Batman is what Robin would say in an old Batman TV show
just some mid turny entertainment
Ah
@sonic flame join the game it's open do it now dooo ittttt
get in
im like nostradamus reincarinated
Put the cookie down
Why are you set on do not disturb during a tournament
Kine is a great player.
:D
@sonic flame not quite in yet
Me three!!
there we go
i just hope i dont DC mid game
my plan is to bring the fps to 1 so they forfiet out of mental pain
yay
that's illegal though
how so?
o
its not intentional
all is fair in the love of war
.-.
its just a fair usage of a perfectly allowed part
?
Why'd you leak your builds.
^
Previews are off.
yeah
it's mind games
are those pod racers
ah
Actually kinda genious... Unless he is unironic.
he says sure sure, i'm just gonna use career ships
and it's actually przy in disguise
can't be
yeah /s
been with the guy for too long, 0% chance of being przy
He is no pryzjem.
Me too.
He's just a funny guy who posts harmless memes in off topic every now and then.
lmao, now this is pod racing
noone can learn polish in a lifetime after childhood
AAAAAAAAAND he's unironic.
And he's not mean ^^
yeah!
I feel so bad for him ๐ฅน
like a child fighing his drunken father
jar wtf
don't worry i still trust demoneye
thats even worse
That was a brutal allegory
ant you can do this
Yeah
youre gonna do this or i look at your DA again
@forest cedar vs @surreal pecan now
Alright
DA?
No second match for demons eye?
he ff
Ah
I assume
ah well it's not a cringe da at least
good luck Nick and Erin
da abandoned at the moment
i trust whoever uses ions better
it's wild to see last months winner and runner up at the bottom of the losers bracket
so Erin lol
prediction: m i n e s
think none of my single-ions fired
Luna and Erin are like the top 2 ion players imo
i mean you had them sideways
of this tournament? i agree
There's something comedically satisfying about mines exploding in an ion core but it's also pretty sad
of all the people I've talked to
people forget i can actually pilot
you have too many ships, you are not an ion cultist, you are not one of us one of us one of us
i just forget reactors can sustain 350 ions on autofire + shields
10 per big one :)
i lost my ships wdym
really? :/
yep, back to square 1
ouch
F
Ooooof
at least i have nixos installed :)
gotta stop panicking when trying to recover my system lol
at least i had chicken
waiting for 1 hour rn
cough skill issue
I'm gonna get a quick thing of food
you'll kill me twice so it's fine
thr cheeky zoom lmso
erin avoidin
Today on watching rocks
Any particular reason people are picking small shield avoiders instead of large shield ones, even though they're facing mirrors less often?
food has been ate
as i was saying in the stream chat, i made this
maybe to deal with rails? idk
Large shields I've been told are better against rails so that doesn't make sense to me
Maybe it's different with the mod
yeah
too many reactors but it's cool
luna your weakpoint arent avoider it's traps
railtraps are very powerful yes
comment outdated by the way
sion is fine against them
i can't put good energy logistic, made it cramped
the thing is, ion tweaks good against most ships are awful against railtraps
nick has an extremely nick ship right there
double ammount of weapons and half the ammount of crew
If only he used ai aim
literal opposite of air
I hate ai aim, less control
it's weird i thought nick used ai always
it's useful but refusing to use manual control is weird too
yeah
you have both options for a reason
erin ion seem quite good, although unproven to me
lighter on armor -> yeah bad vs railtraps
erins ion is bad against railtraps
decent
what kind of railtrap
any decent one
they outspeed me and i got scared for abit, although we only done a single match
mines need a 2nd change, either more damage or smaller activation area
@upbeat ridge vs @sterile flame
firework basically went off against my house
Well, that was fun, GGs folks.
You earnt your well-deserved revenge @forest cedar ๐
cerulean
bracket?
omega
its omega juno
wp erin
great match
Thanks :D
wp erin
Yeah me too
Blaster buff REALLY makes avoiders a whole another beast.
great job Nick!
They shred armor.
Thanks!
waaaaaaaa i have to go in 30m
that was the idea yeah, but i think pd is good enough already
I guess but it'd detract from its gimmick - very fast fire rate but extremely low damage, sort of a ''pecking'' weapon.
And make it more similar to flak.
agreed but lag, and cause they aren't 100% accurate a fire rate nerf needs a bigger damage buff
PD are atrocious vs missiles now ;-;
They had one niche, ONE NICHE, and it was tarnished.
Stop being melodramatic 
What, am I wrong? A veteran using pd wall losing vs adept using morbiter should not feel this one-sided.
And one sided on the MORBITER side at that.
it's not like missiles are op either
@surreal pecan why did you not ram your dc ship in the fight against erins avoider?
this balance mod is still really raw remember, this is a test remember
Pd got buffed in my opinion
Its an avoider, it wont get rammed
imo juno lack of side pds
Yes you you wouldnt have been able to dodge
Dc wins against avoider in the mod
Not necessarily, just need a touch of practice. I can do it pretty decently
de-- what saris said
What people need to do is use large shield avoiders as they're OBJECTIVELY BETTER but no one does
oof linux issues
Woah, how much the flak are struggling at dealing damage.
gonna try reconnecting now
I bet I could beat you
I wondered about that here especially with the blaster buff
I mean Erin deomnstrated how good they are.
Respondet to wrong message
FITE FITE FITE
After the tournament's over I'd love to have a few rounds Plaus ๐
xD
Sure lets do it!
gl plaus
linux moment
Huh.
That's your one disconnect if you do it again you lose by default unfortunately
i see
Rough.
how am i disconnecting at 2 am
25 minutes left and i have to go
cya
bye luna
not yet :(
@vocal cloak vs @forest cedar
wait did i win?
Yeah
i love mf 2 am internet
Why do you have to goooooooooo Lunastro ๐ญ
sorry juno
by defaulr
oof
rip juno
RIP juno
F
Juno noooo
rip
i literally played 0 matches
So sad
F
junooooooo
lmao
Lol
winner of kine vs Erin will get a buy then?
.... request timeout
i feel like there's some me-to-saris level of disconnect here
Hold on
like, some shark
Request timeout again?
Im back
join game
saris made a game
๐ฅบ 20 mins left, maybe 30 if i push it
could just ff
erin cunterpicked saris
oh i meant counterpick
You can't stick around any longer? Sad ๐
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
F
just give me ur spot lol
?
i swear i'm gonna go through every technical before winning a tournament
F shaped structure lol
๐
uuuggghhhh 3 matches
interesting
@fast oracle you're up
Rules are rules gg i guess
wait what
omw
gg
Kine dcโd
oh
YAAAAY I love Artefact so much.
i thought it was gonna be me and toothless next but alr i understand
Sad it cant perform because internet skill issue
nooo we are kineless :(
agreed
F
Ooo ion match
ion queen vs ion monarch
F
?
One of the matches to be ever.
oh
I wanna see how erin deals with luna's ship
It's the one I lost to in the last tourney
poorly apparently lmao
erin is a great ion pilot, cant say the same for avoider (imao)
Yeah erin flat out beat a missile+emp ship with a large shieldless avoider, I don't think I've seen even Saris do that.
To be fair blaster dps and missile nerf helps humungously, but still.
@sterile flame vs @short tartan
the hard part of avoiders is being consistent imo
ERIIIN you should've taken the same ship ;-;
Mm yeah
After this set the only matches left are the finals Lunastro, but you still have to leave, right?
Yeah :(
Me:
I consider myself pretty good at avoiders
oh no offences please
i'll try to stay
y'all decent pilots
but it's tight
I was getting a phone call and i looked away and when i looked back i was getting rammed from behind