#Tournament Chat

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serene latch
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also more entertaining imo

errant forge
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3v3 too much, also causes lags

Im fine with 2v2 but saris dont wanted to because of lags

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But yeah i would like to play 2v2, even with lags thats better than playing 8hours of 1v1 games

unkempt gulch
snow seal
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i wanna participate this time but since i'm not the most confortable in dom i would like to play w/ a teammate..

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so i'm in favor of 2v2

serene latch
snow seal
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:D okay

inland lagoon
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yeah saris pls 2v2 ill be a good boy and fix my ping

rancid compass
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(Ping turned off so that I don't flood Saris' notifs lol)

What if we have a Google Docs based form for submissions, to a private drive that select tourney individuals can see and use to verify the "date modified" field of all submitted ships? We can have the tournament pre-stream involve Saris showing that tourney ships do not exist in his folder, witness a brief clickthrough of every ship to indicate that their date created+modified is at or before form submission time, and then begin the tournament with the co-host announcing that the independent party says all dates were confirmed to be within rules, and ship upload into the computer drive. If seeing ship internals loses the element of surprise for certain ship designs, then we can have camera blur for all ships in the google drive, or just announce that the third party verified it all without the pre-stream fanfare.

I think Saris' character is very solid, and I myself wouldn't have ever raised that concern for tampering. Personally I would be fine if Saris just joins the tournaments without extra measures too, because I think from a utilitarian perspective, the community loses more from not having Saris around to teach us than from a self-defined risk of tampering from one of our community leaders.

There's also possible holes in my way of verification either, the most glaring to me being that we kept the verifyer's identity private which can result in tampering. We can publicize the verifyer too which keeps a sort of checks-and-balance system, which imo is as good as any tournament can get.

odd zealot
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Im on the side of 2v2 dom.

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It is more ships and more action. Means better vievs.

errant forge
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exactly

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2v2 better

short tartan
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yeah

errant forge
surreal pecan
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Przjem + Qawa would be a strong team too.

surreal pecan
errant forge
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Tonie

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im gonna be again, if its 2v2

chilly barn
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If it's 2v2 I wanna try dcing some small tb rails

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But I'd need a fairly good partner

upbeat ridge
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like, rails can be click-and-forget

odd zealot
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Sooo emmm... If its an 2v2 i would like to see if i can be somones teammate. DM me if interested.

chilly barn
stone zephyr
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you set it to the reactor and pray

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bam

upbeat ridge
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like, click at an enemy and forget about it

chilly barn
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How do rails fan withought you fanning them

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I could see a dom ai being really good tho

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Like way better than an elim ai

upbeat ridge
chilly barn
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So like but you have to click to fan???

upbeat ridge
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yep

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@barren aurora would lnow

snow seal
chilly barn
upbeat ridge
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bro wants to make oem.vim

jagged flume
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The sake of balance mods is to further refine the game into a more enjoyable state for everyone, so it's a necessary and cool step in my mind to take. A vote is pointless because one was already held with results that already told me that mods are not only not preferred, but massively the less favored option #tournament-announcements message
Also the results of an additional vote would be irrelevant since I'm going to do it anyway

snow seal
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also note that the rebalance mod is far less modded than an actual modded tourney

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i consider it like vanilla 2.0

jagged flume
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It's just a collection of stat changes yeah, not a content mod

snow seal
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i assume most people would prefer not to play a modded tourney because it requires they learn how to use new parts. with the rebalance mod, there are no new parts or such

white apex
jagged flume
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Are you giving me more crap about how you don't like the changes?

snow seal
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no?

white apex
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no? i meant the vote was unclear

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i thought "modded tourney" meant something like the old kroom's forge tourney

snow seal
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air said he assumed modded tourney meant like abh tourney

jagged flume
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Fair enough. Even if it's not a direct correlary I'd argue that even if it was closer the same results would emerge

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And y'know, a vote is still pointless give that I'm going to do it regardless

jagged flume
# rancid compass (Ping turned off so that I don't flood Saris' notifs lol) What if we have a Goo...

Unfortunately the message you're replying to is massively outdated and I forgot to unpin it. As I'm hosting tournaments in an official capacity I'm no longer interested in even trying to participate, as it requires all of my attention and focus to properly host it. I appreciate the sentiment but for the time being if one wants to see a tournament performance from me they'll need to host an unofficial competitive tournament themself

hollow socket
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I could host one, an unofficial 1.5m tournament where the prize is, winning

jagged flume
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~~Hm, I wonder if I should ask for a domination player role. I also think a 1v1v1 tournament wouldn't be bad πŸ˜› ~~

@unkempt gulch (Please also relay Yugi these questions if you'd be so willing) @odd zealot (Do you go by Vochi now?) @errant forge and @serene latch I'm setting up the next 2v2 domination tournament that'll take place on the 22nd and 29th, if you don't mind can you answer a few of the following questions:

  • Would Single elimination best of threes or Double elimination best of ones be preferred?
  • What time would be best? Something sooner than 7pm UTC? Something later? I can make any time work really
unkempt gulch
jagged flume
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I'm asking these of you gentlemen because I'm unfamiliar with domination or the time zones you guys participate in, so I'm assuming you'll have better answers than my assumptions

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Why are you Dogeing my I'm asking because I want to make the event ideal for you

unkempt gulch
odd zealot
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Its 0.00 here.

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P a i n

jagged flume
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You can respond later if it's a problem

odd zealot
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For me it can be a aouble elimination best of one.

errant forge
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exactly, double elimination, best of one

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7pm UTC, as always

odd zealot
serene latch
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i also would like double elim, best of one

as for the time, slightly later is preferrable (to me) but i'm fine with 7m UTC

unkempt gulch
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3AM

serene latch
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LOL

jagged flume
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Yeah I'm kinda thinking I'll try not doing 7pm UTC for our compatriots on the other side of the planet

errant forge
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5pm UTC?

jagged flume
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Oh boy only 1am

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Y'see the issue, heh heh heh

serene latch
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2am UTC?

errant forge
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thats 3am for me πŸ˜„

serene latch
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can't fit everybody on the same time, unfortunately. hard to find a good universal time

odd zealot
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Something in the middle?

serene latch
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11pm UTC could work i'd imagine

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7 am for hansel

serene latch
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eh screw it, somebody else come up with times

jagged flume
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Always been one of the more strugglesome parts of setting up tournaments

errant forge
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fine.. 11pm utc works for me however thats late for europe and even worse for russia

there is more than 10 people from those regions that gonna participate for sure

serene latch
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saris you had a spreadsheet or something that included a bunch of people's timezones right?

jagged flume
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I have this for helping categorize it but I need Hansel and Yugi's responses before I can use it

frank pecan
# jagged flume I have this for helping categorize it but I need Hansel and Yugi's responses bef...

These are the perfered UTC time that CCC players would like to take a match. Among all time, 8:00 p.m. to 11:00p.m. UTC is the time we would like to avoid to match, so we can try avoid that, or perhaps help CCC players avoid that part of the schedule.
Most active CCC players are night owls of some kind already, cause we always need to stay up late to play with enough players. so be free to make the tournament schedule. We can adapt to a wide range of time.

snow seal
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wait does that mean u switched the am and pm?

frank pecan
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Let me change that picture.....

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Ok this picture serves better. Deleted the former one lol.

jagged flume
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This is a fantastic representation, thank you

errant forge
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I made it for most part of europe

jagged flume
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8-11 or 2-5...

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I'm gonna go with 2-5

errant forge
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I mean the higher line is, the better it is

jagged flume
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I... I know how to.... I can read graphs you know

snow seal
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is it gonna be 2v2s?

errant forge
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Yes

jagged flume
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Essentially everybody in this chat said 2v2 better, so just gonna do that

jagged flume
snow seal
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btw saris when making the bracket can u give qawa and i some time to wake up?

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since it's pretty early..

jagged flume
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Lol, lmao

snow seal
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is that a yes

jagged flume
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I have to wake up two hours before the event to have breakfast and make sure everything's fine

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I am unimpressed with your plea but shall consider it

snow seal
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i am asking you almost 3 weeks in advance

sweet saffron
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just wake up earlier smh

vocal cloak
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how early is this for americans?

jagged flume
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It starts at 7am for me and I'm far on the west coast

spring fable
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too early tbh

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i wake up at like 10

chilly barn
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It's not hard to wake up at 6 if you really want to participate

errant forge
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@jagged flume

jagged flume
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That second timer actively adjusts to your local time yeah?

errant forge
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Nah

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Im utc +1, if the 2pm UTC is true, than its 3pm for me

odd zealot
jagged flume
odd zealot
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Thanks!

jagged flume
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Przyjem it's accurate for me and I've checked it twice now on both ends. It says it's at 7am, and if I look up 2pm UTC it also says that's at 7am

errant forge
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Alright

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Probably i messed up something with change of the time for summer season, 4pm might be right then

frank pecan
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Thank you guys for your work! I am writing an offical annoncment of it for CCC. The tournament have our full awarness. Hopefully, CCC will have 2 team attending this time. Though Hansel and AnD claim that they might not come.

sharp cape
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whats cancer paint, i havent herd the term?

upbeat ridge
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now cencer paint is utilizing that to effectively blind people, and it's just not good for anyone involved, nor healthy

surreal pecan
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Very painful to look at.

snow seal
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my poor eyes

stone zephyr
errant forge
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now with Teleport Beacons, that allow to make interesting strategies for dom tourney

white apex
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i thought the stance was "if they don't know what it is, don't enlighten them"

short tartan
white apex
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i have never seen accidental cancer paint lol

desert sky
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sry for calling your ship ugly btw

surreal pecan
snow seal
surreal pecan
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TB ion is cancer on its own it doesn't need cancer paint :>

jagged flume
surreal pecan
naive lion
surreal pecan
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I have explained this time and time again.

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At this point it's literally a quote of mine.

surreal pecan
naive lion
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If your really weak to tb ig, but usually tb ion aren't strong archetypes, like I don't think I've ever lost to one.

surreal pecan
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I've tried ion with 10 engine rooms and it gets countered hard too.

naive lion
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I used commencement and beat nightlords

surreal pecan
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Even my funky anti-tb rail ship can't best them as they like ramming.

surreal pecan
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You also can beat morbiters with ions, a feat I can not imagine accomplishing without heaps of back armor.

naive lion
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Cuz tb are just bad when pulling so close so on an ion rammer seems like a weaker ion rammer

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We could ping nightlord for explanation ig

surreal pecan
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TB rails can't do that.

surreal pecan
naive lion
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@hazy root how is success rate with that ship

snow seal
surreal pecan
snow seal
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on uhh

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lunar

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whatever

surreal pecan
snow seal
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my rails outdamage yours

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and i have more front armor

surreal pecan
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Eventually I might be able to out-torque you though. I don't think you've ever used your ashling or whatever it's called to ram me.

snow seal
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so i just slowly eat up your armor and then eventually there will be an opening into the reactor or cr or whatever

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i have done this, u mustve forgotten

hazy root
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Hmmm hard to say. I didn't played a lot with this TB ion, but it's pretty successful. I usually lose against orbiter walls because I can't get a good ram (but usually orbiter walls are played by experts, like Air, Qawa, you have to take that in the balance). I tried once against a morbiter and I won. Against other Ion ship I usually win (4/5 victory ratio), TB rails I would say 1/2.
But I like this ship not because of victory ratio, but because it's awesome to fly with. It was also really fun to build, putting 12ERs, 4TBs and 6 ion emitters for 3 LRs was challenging, but it somehow works πŸ˜‰

naive lion
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4tbs were enough to flip the morbiter? Also who was the tb rail pilots?

hazy root
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I don't have to flip the ship, I just need to get the back. If I remember correctly it was Juno and Nick for the TB rails.

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I use the TBs to get the ram and stay locked (that's why I called this ship leech)

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In the end, I'm not sure this ship is a strong archetype because it's hard countered by other fast ships

naive lion
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Interesting, it'd be cool see more of this ship in action against other good pilots

hazy root
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@raven fern do you still have the REC file ?

surreal pecan
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@naive lion I am afraid you might make an incredibly wacky TB ion that will be unstoppable you seem to be interested with the concept.

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Oh by the way what's the best totally original prototype you've made. Best I mean the most competitively functional.

naive lion
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It's not that I wanna make one, I just don't think tb synergies well with ions so I was curious why you said it was cancerous

surreal pecan
raven fern
hazy root
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There were also Luna and Air, you said you may create a vid, that's why I'm asking

serene latch
white apex
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most tb ships have relatively similar "i can't do jack if i'm a bad pilot and/or don't have good enough thrust" but weapons help against specific archetypes

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rails help v walls, cannons help v very fast rammers, ions help v <archetype here>

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and also ion ttk is usually shorter than rails in my experience?

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once a tb ion gets a good ramlock from tb u just die, for rails u can come back if they don't 1shot

serene latch
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i'd imagine the morbiter wins in a ramlock since 6 ions probably isn't enough damage
same logic for other ion ships
walls are too difficult to catch/will easily get in a good position
deck cannon rammers would likely win in a ramlock too

vivid ore
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Great that the next tourney tries Domination.
Trying differnt game modes is the right thing to do.

will try to team up and join

hazy root
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Tonight I took counts, I've more victories than defeat, but Luna totally countered that ship with her nukes. After 1 defeat and 1 victory, she totally countered that ship.

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Some screenshots

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Standard ion ships lose, they get flanked and destroyed

vivid ore
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Also the Settings look fine for tourney!
did not find anything to critisize so far ... 😺
Ofc Domination would also be interesting 1v1.

serene latch
hazy root
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Sure

serene latch
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will get on soon

naive lion
hazy root
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It's a defeat πŸ˜‰ qawa won

errant forge
snow seal
upbeat ridge
snow seal
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i havent fought that new one

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in the past my strat was just to bounce and win

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looks pretty easy

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if u need more data i can offer a hand @hazy root

chilly barn
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O shit that's a pretty big prize

snow seal
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better but worse

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because it's split by 2 players

fast oracle
surreal pecan
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No side armor (Almost none) no chance of survival.

fast oracle
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yeah i see he mentioned it

fast oracle
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i had to nuke the front shields

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nl has been improving that ship a lot over the last few weeks, i didn't need the nukes to win with nion and now i do

hollow socket
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  • what is the best domination ship?
inland lagoon
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burger is best

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kills enemy with obesity

upbeat ridge
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on a more serious note, it depends on your apm skill bracket and current price range

inland lagoon
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yeah you need fast fingers to eat a burger

upbeat ridge
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on a more more serious note, you want to learn how to fully use autoram/orbi tactics if you don't have the apm, but are decent in building

inland lagoon
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yeah so you can make a delicious burger

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need decent building skill

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and autoram the burger into your mouth

errant forge
upbeat ridge
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so, like waste ships and waste ships?

vocal prairie
vocal cloak
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nukers

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wasteships gets countered by emps

vocal prairie
# vocal cloak nukers

how do those counter deck cannon rammers? they are very easy to dodge and often deal little damage if only 1-2 hit the frontal armour

vocal cloak
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well your other option is kites or brute force it with your own deck cannons

hollow socket
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Why not regular cannons

odd zealot
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Like small cannons?

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They are just not worth it. LCs do a better job.

errant forge
# upbeat ridge so, like waste ships and waste ships?

Waste Ships arent that OP, people are scared of them because of chinesse people telling everyone to not evem use them... Those Waste Ships are good archetype, but not as powerful as people think, thats because its simple and easy archetype to build, almost everyone, even begginers can build them. Thats why those Waste Ships use to be "scary" for not entertained dom players, same as it was with Qawa's 6DC Green Rammer, KMC was complaining about how great and deadly it is, thats obviously solid ship and i like it, but thats 438k too easy to lose for its price ....Back to Waste Ships, there is some counters which im using. Mainly thats emps, some 1DC ships, full armor deck cannons and tougher lc ships.

upbeat ridge
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has this person seen oem fight ever

errant forge
upbeat ridge
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it's more a matter of the potential of a skill gap beyond most of today's tournament participants

upbeat ridge
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instead,my argument is saying it's the other way around in higher-apm situations where you go above the usual dom fleets' apm saturation limit

errant forge
nova juniper
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Im currently looking for a teammate for the team domination tournament

upbeat ridge
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don't think the guy's perfection

nova juniper
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anyone still looking for a duo teammate?

errant forge
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of course there is some people

chilly barn
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Voci is

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Look in pinned

nova juniper
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thats not gonna work

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bad chemistry

errant forge
surreal pecan
errant forge
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who is one of the best dom players?

hollow socket
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That vochi player I think

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Personally, I'm rooting for King

errant forge
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he havent won any match last tournament

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vochi i mean

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so i dont know what you talkin about @surreal pecan

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maybe you messed him with tonie, my partner, he took second place with me

surreal pecan
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Obviously.

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Oh wait kommandant didn;'t get second.

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But he got in top 4 I remember.

errant forge
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Yeah kommandant is solid at dom

surreal pecan
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Mhm.

odd zealot
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At least in the last 2 weeks?

surreal pecan
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I played today.

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I got my ass handed, as always.

snow seal
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@jagged flume can u update the screenshot of the settings in the document

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specifically the allow ship construcution

jagged flume
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Shore

snow seal
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tyty

frank pecan
jagged flume
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Tis impressive how little interest there is for domination, only five teams

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At least last time there was 12 teams, only 5 currently

spring fable
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i might join but i just dont like it as much as elim especially if there is a timer

raven fern
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If I had domination ships I'd join. However, the time needed to make a diverse and well rounded fleet is what's holding me back

errant forge
# jagged flume Tis impressive how little interest there is for domination, only five teams

As i know some people already said they gonn join too, there should be more than 10 teams i hope

However most of people even dom players dont want to participate because they have no chance in their opinion, but there is still second and third plave which is great to take. Also tournaments are by far the best way to gain exeprience. You not only practice by playing before it, buy after, you know what you have to change about your ships, strategies, what issues to fix

sweet saffron
raven fern
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Was about to post a screen of the rule "Ships used in the tournament must be of your own creation" haha

errant forge
spring fable
errant forge
raven fern
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If I were to begin playing domination that's probably what i'd do

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Yet, the time issue remains

short tartan
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I've never played Dom and I would rather watch a tournament first instead of jumping in head first

hollow socket
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it is good to see tournament variety, or it might eventually become bland, the way consuming only 1 food will make you dislike it

vital spindle
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I would learn dom but it’s kinda hard to go and loose when I can just play elim and have a better shot at winning

errant forge
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Dom is really fun when you know basics and have basic ships.

As i said tournaments are great way to learn. Firsts you learn by practicing before tournament, then after tourney you know what you have to change with your ships and strategies.

But mainly thats just fun to play

vocal cloak
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Its also alot easier to find games now with the amount of people practicing atm

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Good time to pick it up

jagged flume
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Also Yugi's massive and fantastic catalog of ships to start learning with

past fiber
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It seems to me that many people register before starting, as it usually happens

desert sky
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iwould join the tourney and play dom at all if the ships used were more pretty

upbeat ridge
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you can make a change

desert sky
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would require skills LUL

upbeat ridge
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you can do it

surreal pecan
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Jokes aside...

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Well you see, domination requires building like 20 different meta ships that you use depending on the situation, each requiring specific utilization. So you basically need an entire fleet. That alone wouldn't be a problem, as elimination also requires quite a bit of ships, even though still way less (Usually you'd be fine with 4-5 meta ships and would be able to counter most enemies), but the real problem is the fact that you need to know how these different ships synergize with each other and have to use up to 5 ships at a time for the best effect, all at once. Plus good Dom gameplay requires superb multitasking and attention to the entire map, not just wherever only a group of your ships are.

past fiber
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yes, the domination mode requires a lot of control

hollow socket
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Cannon alpha fest

frank pecan
# surreal pecan Well you see, domination requires building like 20 different meta ships that you...

Yeah. RTS and RTT are commonly commented enjoyable to watch but painful to play with. It is quit skill demanding and take some understanding of the game before you can actually start particepating the fun. Though 20 meta dom ship isn't really more work (cause they are small) than 3~5 elim meta, and you can also play with a smaller line up as well (such as 10 meta ships), it is just the tactic understanding that is standing between most other player and experienced dom players.

frank pecan
# hollow socket Cannon alpha fest

Well I can promise not to throw waste ships into battle first, it is understandable for people to dislike them I mean, I respect that, even when in tournament. Though there are stored waste ship designs of mine and I won't feel shame to through them back to players who start the waste ship fight first lol.

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Also I am pretty sure players such as Przyjem have stored lots of counter tactics to fight them. So when in tournament, they won't be that game-breaking good.

errant forge
errant forge
frank pecan
errant forge
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Also basic 4lc have some durability against empe, obviosuly not much but can endure some emps. But waste ships one emp and they are gone

frank pecan
surreal pecan
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Same applies to elimination as well, but to a lesser extent, as you're at least piloting a single ship.

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Elimination is easy to get to but extremely difficult to master, whilst dom is hard to get into but even harder to master.

hollow socket
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What I'd want, is to be able to hotkey active ships so that I can much more easily switch between them

frank pecan
last cave
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;-;

errant forge
frank pecan
last cave
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thx

errant forge
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@gilded spindle you participating?

gilded spindle
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nobody to play with

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and I have no dom experience so I wasn't thinking about it too much

errant forge
odd zealot
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Ekhm...

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#1020489415476396043 message

nova juniper
tough prism
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Hold on, what time is the tournament happening?
I looked and I am finding conflicting times

jagged flume
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How

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It's at 2pm UTC, or 7am PST for me

tough prism
desert sky
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mayube confusing am and pm?

jagged flume
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Where are you getting CET

tough prism
tough prism
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right there

jagged flume
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Ignore that I'm fixing it now no idea how that occured

tough prism
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thanks

jagged flume
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It is at 7am pacific standard time, which translates to 10am eastern standard time

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Apologies for the confusion thanks for signing up

errant forge
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There gonna be 10 teams for sure, probably even more

surreal pecan
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I bet on like 8

white apex
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what r u betting

surreal pecan
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8 teams.

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I.e. 16 players.

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Also when is the tournament.

white apex
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i meant what r u putting at stack

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*stake

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i'll bet 1x 1.5m paintjob there's more than 8 teams

surreal pecan
serene latch
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ooh ooh can i join the bet

white apex
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no

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i don't even have any ships that need painting if i do win lol

errant forge
# surreal pecan I bet on like 8

Nah, im 100% sure there gonna be more than 8

1 or 2 more teams from china should join
Spacecat and TWrecks should join
And more....

peak hinge
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Hello, so in the announcement of the new Tournemant it says, Max fleet Value 4500000, does it mean everyone can spawn Ships up to 4500000 or can both players have a 4500000 Fleet?

peak hinge
vivid ore
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@jagged flume the rules for tourney show the settings from an older version of cosmoteer - maybe update it?

errant forge
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I think was decided to not update them because were perfect

vivid ore
vivid ore
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it is a minor issue ofc

errant forge
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Isnt it the same? Where is issue for you?

vivid ore
errant forge
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Tell me where is the issue

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and the diffirence in gameplay between those settings

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because thats the same, thats what i said

upbeat ridge
#

well you can assume that the players who read that may misread it

vivid ore
#

i said it is a minor issue ...

noble panther
#

dude how do we join the tournament?

inland lagoon
surreal pecan
#

Except obviously you need a partner.

errant forge
surreal pecan
#

πŸ’€

frank pecan
# errant forge or slave for doing your commands

Would be fair.
Considering what "crews" in this game have been majoying heavy physical labor, continuously following orders from an irreversible authority without right to speak of themselves, basicly handing their entire life to others, who only paid once to stations, usually with less budget then buying a cargo would need, Cosmoteer-verse is probably not a world where citizen society is popular, like in Star Trek more like the good-old Feudalism 40k. So continuation of this rightful right in reality would then be just fine for cosmoteer players.

short tartan
#

:/

past fiber
errant forge
#

Or maybe thats just bunch of pixels?

surreal pecan
#

@odd zealot What is the 🦞 for?

odd zealot
#

You wont understad.

frank pecan
odd zealot
#

Not about that

surreal pecan
odd zealot
#

🦞

odd zealot
#

Wait. Why ladder?

#

C o n f u z i o n

#

Now a cake?

#

W h a

#

Oh no

#

Its a fish cake

#

;-;

chilly barn
#

Ah yes two reactions

#

Thanks discord

sweet saffron
jagged flume
#

Hollowan, Slowking, Vochi and Zemako are all still looking for partners

errant forge
#

Zemako found partner

snow seal
surreal pecan
#

Well y'see he never said sure, he said shore deadman

white apex
#

<@&340613895427325952> przyjem pt 2

thick hollow
#

I actually don't even know how to make a joke about that

upbeat ridge
#

mods ban this guy

#

jokeless πŸ’€

thick hollow
#

?warn @bright anchor rules 2, 7 and 15

hybrid hollyBOT
#

dynoSuccess dziszsmiampoiachoyzszalpiniuf#8880 has been warned.

bright anchor
serene latch
#

what did he do

snow seal
#

dms

errant forge
#

What happened?

#

What "me"?

vocal cloak
#

some polish guy said some no no words, although why your name is being brought up is questionable

errant forge
vocal cloak
#

you got nothing to do with it so its quite random

white apex
#

said the same word too

#

@thick hollow can u delete their message too

thick hollow
#

exactly where did they say that

white apex
#

#1020489415476396043 message

odd zealot
#

Truly a 🦞 moment.

vital spindle
#

Was about to ask around for a dom teamate but then realized the tournament is 9am my time

#

Ye I’m probably gonna sleep past that

inland lagoon
#

then dont sleep past that

jagged flume
#

It's 7am my time πŸ˜†

inland lagoon
#

fix ur biological clock and play the tournament

vital spindle
serene latch
#

yup gotta wake up really early

vital spindle
inland lagoon
#

sibling, get out of my room

#

tell ur siblings it was a mental test

vital spindle
#

My family is a family of late sleepers

inland lagoon
#

and they were supposed to wake up themselves

#

and they failed and u go play domination tournament

jagged flume
#

Just play quietly lol

vital spindle
#

Alright I’ll ask around but no promises I’ll be able to show up until I get everything squared away

inland lagoon
#

tell ur dad hes man of the house and he has to wake everyone up

surreal pecan
surreal pecan
hollow socket
#

It was recent enough

errant forge
errant forge
surreal pecan
errant forge
surreal pecan
errant forge
#

i have no idea

odd zealot
#

They just like hating on Przyjem.

#

Even tho he did nothing wrong.

#

now at least

surreal pecan
#

Mhm

#

Poor monkey.

errant forge
unkempt gulch
#

only 8team join tournament

#

: (

inland lagoon
#

there probably will be more by 22th july, people are just waiting last minute

errant forge
#

Yeah, i predict 12 teams

#

The same amount that was last time

last cave
#

xd

snow seal
#

can we have a vote for enabling the sharing of credits?

errant forge
#

Hmm

#

Honestly i prefer normal rules, but sure we can vote

#

Interesting idea for sure

surreal pecan
inland lagoon
surreal pecan
#

Ahh.

#

And I was here thinking I've won the bet against Air πŸ˜”

#

@white apex DM me the ship you want me to paint I will paint it when I get home from my village trip πŸ‘

#

Or make me choose out of a few ones, you make the rules.

odd zealot
#

#1125250629024092200 message

#

stop with those laders.

#

Please.

jagged flume
#

Do the ladders mean something?

odd zealot
#

#1020489415476396043 message

errant forge
#

You started responding and spamming with Lobster emoji to everything, without any reason

Some people made the same and started responding with Ladder emoji to your messages, also without any reason

naive lion
#

Love cosmo drama

raven fern
#

The best kind

sweet saffron
#

I totally didn't put the first ladder

errant forge
odd zealot
#

Well what can i say exscept....🦞

errant forge
#

πŸͺœ

odd zealot
#

#off-topic message

#

Before Saris sees this.

jagged flume
#

I can see deleted messages in the log you know

odd zealot
#

Yeah i was about to say that.

errant forge
odd zealot
vital spindle
#

where do i download rebalance mod?

errant forge
surreal pecan
upbeat ridge
#

bruh i saw vilda do this before

warm pine
#

are the ships in the tournaments controlled manually?

short tartan
surreal pecan
#

This ship(s) is perfection

#

I will gladly paint it.

#

Also I only really have to paint 1mil's worth.

#

Also what faction/style/design.

errant forge
frank pecan
raven fern
upbeat ridge
#

depth vs breadth, tbh

serene latch
#

dom has a much larger macro aspect is what i think przyjem is talking about

upbeat ridge
#

with rts being somewhat undercooked compared to… actual rtses (no auto-attack :megamind:)
domination is just unnecessarily difficult, though stuff like autoram lower the skill floor a lot;
in elim, not every player uses direct control to play their single ship, but it's preferred due to, again, being the lower skill floor option (qe strafe best wasd layout)
i err on the side of elim being harder due to having played some rts games and just having a feel for what could be done by humans, and the absolute depth of play i've seen with both gamemodes

#

okay in case anyone is seething: imo

oak belfry
#

@bright anchor i contacted him

#

hes on summer vacation, he has no way of responding he wanted me to say this

#

hes the master of both worlds

#

all of the united realms

#

he wanted to say

#

"if anyone needs to buy paragon, they shall contact bomba, he is my second in command, he will be commanding the operation, so please, if you want to order a paragon contact bomba, send him three of your ships, from (elimination, domination) and await for response."

#

so i guess he said im gonna be sending people paragon

#

he gave me the power, power of the frog

#

SzybkiKazik42...

#

that was his name wasnt it...

snow seal
#

😎i can finally buy paragon

oak belfry
#

he was a great and well known player in the hood, one if not the BEST arena players

oak belfry
snow seal
#

yah i will later

oak belfry
#

sure, as you wish

#

you have all the time you need

#

Yeah, including the Ring of death

#

he used the meta to bypass storm

#

and bouncy pads

#

he created the Avoider fight

#

he was the first player of arena

#

he was called fool by many... but those so called fools are the only ones brave enough to see the truth

#

szybkikazik42 was his first student

#

everyone wants to meet him, he was the greatest player ever

#

he is in deep pits of siberia, he was sent by saris

#

he said hes "too dangerous to deal with"

#

he could end everyones career in this game...

errant forge
oak belfry
#

gog... one of his many friends

#

they met back in siberia... with a plan to kill the cosmoteer moderation team....

odd zealot
#

What is happening here.

errant forge
#

i think gog is somewhere deep into russia, probably sent by Saris ( ban )

oak belfry
#

but then... after SzybkiKazik42 went to moscow after 2 years... he saw gog... with 28 STAB WOUNDS..

#

With a note signed by saris and Beef...

#

"dont mess with us"

errant forge
#

what you talking about bro

oak belfry
#

he was killed

odd zealot
#

#off-topic message

oak belfry
#

in a terrorist attack back in moscow

odd zealot
#

Just in case

oak belfry
#

he was then reincarnated into angel

#

and he was haunting everyone on the server

#

he believed in buddhist religion

#

Al qaeda

#

and america

#

the ones that were in 2001

#

it was brutal but SzybkiKazik42 didnt give up

#

he went on to be the greatest cosmoteer players

#

yeah wtf hes not black

odd zealot
#

I did not say that.

oak belfry
#

beep. boop. boop beep?

#

SzybkiKazik continued his legacy

#

and lived on as one of the greatest player in history

#

(cuz he didnt even discover fire

#

he was born back in the forest

#

raised by men with spears

#

thats the bad thing...

#

he was raised in the forest hoood

#

so a lot of black men were in there

errant forge
#

argh

#

stop

oak belfry
#

it was the painful truth....

#

he had nightmares... he thought they were devil

#

but they had suspicion... cuz father black mother black... he white and... how that happened

#

im a tribalist

#

we live back in the desert of saudi arabia and cut poeple head with sabre

#

like in 1914

#

but we discover fire

#

and bright

#

hes on the move... you can not

#

but...

#

i can contact him

#

get him out of africa...

#

and make him our king again

#

i can call him right now! i got boys back in africa trying to set a compilant regime in nigeria

#

yes.. they have to outrun white men so can survive

#

if they got caught...

#

sold for 10$ on black market

snow seal
#

<@&340613895427325952>

oak belfry
#

that is offensive

void condor
#

tf going on back here.

odd zealot
#

I have no clue.

worldly kiln
#

?warn @bright anchor r15

hybrid hollyBOT
#

dynoSuccess Paladyn ŚwiatΕ‚a#8880 has been warned.

oak belfry
#

marcin watch you are back!!

#

yes.. he could handle them

worldly kiln
#

Move this elsewhere please

oak belfry
#

yes. sir

#

if anyone needs paragon though... contact me

desert sky
#

yeah can you stop flooding the tournament chat with useless discussion?!
it isin't the trash bin here

hybrid hollyBOT
#

dynoSuccess feeeeeeeedmeeeee_memeboi#5238 has been warned.

jagged flume
#

I wish people could play with their alts by themselves sometimes

sharp bane
#

you have to admit the creative writing here got quite creative

#

sadly tournament chat is not roleplay chat

jagged flume
#

We have a rival to Volkhat if anything

errant forge
#

Patentic racist

hollow socket
#

What?

#

Unhinged

jagged flume
#

Ok tournament discussion now

hollow socket
#

Any new ships for your tournament?

errant forge
#

Seems there is less activity before dom tournament, most of dom players are kinda outsiders of cosmoteer discord commumities

#

And the people that is commonly active on those discords dont want to play dom tourney

spring fable
#

i would play but im busy that day so i cant i also dont have good dom ships

sharp bane
#

I have good dom ships but no dom skillz

#

still gonna participate!

errant forge
#

There is some decent teams, gonna be much more entertaining to watch then last time im March where was huge gap between most of players

last cave
#

whats the current bracket looking like?

#

how many teams are there?

#

because apparently the two people i was vouching for are being kinda dumb :P

errant forge
#

Bracket gonna be made a while before tournamemt, because people still can sign up

If bracket will be half done now, placement of teams im bracket would be time of signing up dependent

#

You can easly count how much team are now - 11

bright anchor
surreal pecan
#

Ktaekho x Gog undefeatable troll.

#

The fact that you're using 4 cockpits on the orbiter hurts me beyond belief.

#

15K waste that could've been avoided D:

errant forge
surreal pecan
oak belfry
surreal pecan
#

But for a person who makes complaints about 50 credits not being optimized, wasting 50K with such a silly excuse is still weird okay, would be more fun for me to paint so not like I care.

#

Just add 3 tiles of corridor next to the assym part smh my head.

#

Or 2 crew and an airlock/fe/light tile.

fast oracle
#

"look at cp" deadman

errant forge
#

@hazy brook as ultra resigned, will you participate with someone else?

hazy brook
#

yeah probably

errant forge
#

Not much free dom players left, btw whats about your old partner polar?

#

You was good team

last cave
#

oof

tough prism
#

parents suck alot sometimes

#

and for no good reasons

#

I mean, I would have put more resistance against going with their wishes but my cousins are going, so I have to go

#

sorry tapeable

serene latch
#

life happens, nothing you can do. don't blame yourself

noble panther
#

Aight due to some events plus it's very late for me and @agile flare We will not be in the event. Everyone the people nobody know will not be in the event it's a sad evening.

#

gn

short tartan
#

<@&340613895427325952>

noble panther
#

maybe you don't know about me

#

If you don't know your opponent how will you decide who will win?

short tartan
#

<@&340613895427325952>

worldly kiln
#

What rule did they brake

#

Little off topic yea but

short tartan
#

r15

worldly kiln
#

Just block em if you don't like them

short tartan
#

genuinely wtf

#

do your fucking job

worldly kiln
#

They didn't brake any rules

quartz summit
#

Yet

short tartan
#

they very clearly did

worldly kiln
#

They said white supremacy

#

That's it

short tartan
#

coward

worldly kiln
#

If you have an issue with this move it to #discord-meta

#

Also insulting people won't help you

mental umbra
short tartan
worldly kiln
#

Again if you want to continue this move it to #discord-meta

worldly kiln
vocal cloak
#

huh i thought i saw an insult, seems like its deleted. provocation doesn't get you anywhere mate

inland lagoon
#

tournament in 2 days

#

wish everyone goodluck

errant forge
#

yeah good luck

#

gonna be fun

errant forge
#

SarisSummerWisp

inland lagoon
snow seal
#

@serene latch LMAOO

serene latch
#

HAHAHA

#

@sharp bane

sharp bane
#

?

serene latch
#

YOU PINGED ME NOT SARIS

sharp bane
#

Oh are there other people taking saris' nickname

serene latch
#

do you not notice the difference

sharp bane
#

how is that you you're qwaaaaaaaawa

#

I see now but it doesn't display when writing the ping

serene latch
#

saris summer vs saris winter

snow seal
snow seal
#

to be the official sarissummerwisp

sharp bane
#

Oh phewh I was looking at the date and panicked because it was the 22nd lmao

#

forgot it's already tomorrow

errant forge
#

Yup, tournament today

#

Seems there is 13 teams, one more than last time but thats odd number to make brackets

frank pecan
#

CCC is preparing to stream this tournament! We will relay the youtube streaming and about 20 audiance are expected to watch it all through, more to come.

#

I also worte an introduction for every player who joined the tournament for CCC audiance, only except four inactive player who I really don't know about. Many of the audiance didn't know you guys much but they will after tonight (the match is 6hours later at 10p.m. for us).

jagged flume
#

That's awesome! I hope that streaming and connection issues will be completely smooth this time round

errant forge
#

@zealous quarry i think you have to sign up

nova juniper
#

yo

zealous quarry
nova juniper
inland lagoon
zealous quarry
#

Oh, sorry.

vivid ore
#

no check in channel his time?
... i am Here

nova juniper
#

checked in

errant forge
#

Checking in gonna be in 1h20min...

nova juniper
#

where?

errant forge
#

Or on #1125250629024092200

frank pecan
nova juniper
errant forge
nova juniper
#

ohh

#

e aha

errant forge
zealous quarry
#

Just did the thing.

#

My teammate is in a deep slumber.

vivid ore
zealous quarry
#

Yeah.

frank pecan
#

Any schedule coming out?

errant forge
#

Thats 6am for saris and some people, chill
Probably check-in gonna start in an hour and tournament in 2hours

snow seal
#

wha

#

i thought check in would start now

errant forge
#

Yeah i could be wrong

snow seal
#

look at the time in the #tournament-announcements

errant forge
#

I know, however in every tournament i was taking part, it was delayed
Especially it can be delayed now when its 6am for Saris

unkempt gulch
#

gl hf

errant forge
unkempt gulch
#

πŸ‘

jaunty viper
#

do we get pinged 1 hour before the tournament?

snow seal
#

usually..

jaunty viper
#

ok

unkempt gulch
#

should we need first check ping?

#

@jagged flume

snow seal
#

he's probably making breakfast or whatever

#

i'm a pro at dom u see

dry otter
#

truly

nova juniper
#

@jagged flume will you be using a lot of technical jargon in the stream?

#

if so my family is not gonna understandπŸ˜‚

odd zealot
#

#1125250629024092200 message

#

CHECH IN

jagged flume
#

To be honest the check in is something I'm gonna phase out it doesn't really help me

odd zealot
#

If you do that remember to change the doc.

zealous quarry
#

i cant enter

#

help

#

I CANT PRESS ENTER

errant forge
#

No problem, we know you are here ready to play

zealous quarry
#

Epicc, thank you very much.

odd zealot
#

Will Saris be the only one casting?

frank pecan
#

I hope so, though atually no,

#

I am also doing that,

jagged flume
#

You hope so?

frank pecan
jagged flume
#

Fair

desert sky
#

hope qawa will do better so i can actually enjoy shielded ships

jagged flume
#

Ha ha ha

unkempt gulch
#

check~ping~

frank pecan
#

I hope the schedule is out.

quartz summit
#

Nuclear annihilation in T-4 minutes

vivid ore
#

no sign of @mortal flame so far

quartz summit
#

Hope he comes at time

odd zealot
#

Cant compete Deniz is out. So am i.

quartz summit
vivid ore
odd zealot
vivid ore
#

give it some minutes

quartz summit
odd zealot
#

Yeah....

quartz summit
frank pecan
#

Any Schedule out yet?

snow seal
#

yeah any bracket?

odd zealot
#

@jagged flume Is it fine to me to team up with space Cat if his teammate dosent show sighn of life?

quartz summit
#

Nuclear annihilation has begun, good luck to everyone

frank pecan
vivid ore
#

@mortal flame last chance! - i'm about to team up with @odd zealot

jagged flume
#

The bracket now has Spacecat and Vochi teamed up, @shell maple and @mortal flame are no longer eligible for participation

quartz summit
frank pecan
snow seal
#

WHAT

quartz summit
#

Share

serene latch
#

WHAT

snow seal
#

ohno

serene latch
#

(i wouldl ike to see my introduction please ^^)

odd zealot
quartz summit
#

F

frank pecan
#

They were supper brief, basicly just about you two are champion, Qawa is visionary, and Salephz is a friend of CCC as Salephz founded us quit a lot of files.

#

I nicked named your team as the Elim-Champ team,

serene latch
#

ha ha ha, understandable

#

most of my dom prescence was in classic

errant forge
dry otter
#

ill cry if ive been left out

frank pecan
# errant forge and mine? πŸ˜„

Told the legend of the Poland Cosmoteer Community, explained why you guys are quit alsome comparing to the size of your community.
I even introduced INC a bit.

errant forge
#

lol

#

i would say @brave solar is legend of the Poland Cosmoteer Community

frank pecan
#

@hardy mulch We chat here.

jagged flume
#

Gimme like 5 minutes

frank pecan
hardy mulch
#

ah, nice

#

was seconds from pinging saris

unkempt gulch
#

πŸ‘€

mortal flame
#

No I'm here

#

@vivid ore Lol

jagged flume
#

I guess it's up to Spacecat

frank pecan
vivid ore
gilded spindle
#

If I'm needed I'm willing to join

mortal flame
#

I'm so confused. I was just waiting for people to call me for a game lol

#

I've been here the whole time

jagged flume
#

I'm very uphappy about all of the above but I'll pair Slowking with Vochi

#

Bruh

snow seal
#

awkward..

jagged flume
#

You were pinged like 5 times to show yourself

gilded spindle
#

Well, how long do I have to make stuff lmao

serene latch
#

yes

frank pecan
vivid ore
odd zealot
gilded spindle
#

sure

#

and tourney is now so I have no choice basically

upbeat ridge
#

gl

serene latch
#

well

#

you can rush to make ships before your game ig

#

lol

gilded spindle
#

where bracket

serene latch
#

i don't think they're allowed to use them for the tourney

errant forge
#

i think mint gonna give his ships to slowk

serene latch
#

bc it must be made by them or their partner/collaborations

frank pecan
#

Just kidding lol know the rules.

vivid ore
mortal flame
#

Again I want to reiterate, I was here the whole time waiting lol. Stayed up to 12am my time to wait.

#

Just didn't know I was supposed to say something. Assumed people would call me in when it was my turn to fight that's all.

vivid ore
odd zealot
#

I will be participating in the tournament with my partner [@partner] and my in-game name is SarisWinterwisp. I have confirm that I will be present on the 22nd and 29th of July at 7am PST (convert to local time), and will remember to check in an hour before the event

#

Those are Saris words

frank pecan
#

@still cairn

jagged flume
#

@ I can't type chinese characters and @nova juniper vs @waxen pollen and @zealous quarry for our first match today

still cairn
#

alright thanks yugi

frank pecan
#

@sacred quartz You are on!

hardy mulch
#

are the matches going to get streamed?

jagged flume
#

Yes check announcements

serene latch
#

imagine not having a chinese keyboard

zealous quarry
#

do we just go in??

jagged flume
#

Yes

snow seal
jagged flume
#

Just join the game

frank pecan
#

Ok any schedule?

waxen pollen
#

ok

zealous quarry
#

password?

waxen pollen
#

password?

jagged flume
#

glow

odd zealot
#

bracket

sacred quartz
#

Full

jagged flume
#

Alright fixed thank you

mortal flame
#

Cool

still cairn
frank pecan
#

Xiao Song's in game name means "Hu Tao my beloved" by the way.

mortal flame
#

We gonna lose lol

snow seal
jagged flume
#

@still cairn and @hardy mulch vs @gilded spindle and @odd zealot

odd zealot
#

Password?

#

glow

jagged flume
#

It's in announcements

vivid ore
#

lagg team wins (Sry)

frank pecan
#

CCC player and friend won, yeah~

jagged flume
#

They won through tactics Spacecat they completely crushed the opponent team -_-

last cave
#

i am big sadge, the two people i wanted didnt join

snow seal
vivid ore
#

the short rush tourney it will be

serene latch
vivid ore
serene latch
#

yes

#

bo1 but double elimination

vivid ore
#

ok so everyone gets a second chance, cool

frank pecan
#

Ok good luck guys.

desert sky
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i love beacons in dom
wish to see more

frank pecan
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The tactic I first adapt to! Beacon fix!

desert sky
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..as a viewer ._.

frank pecan
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Mint made a wonderful 3DC tp ship, similar to what I did with these:

desert sky
frank pecan
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Made in the first week.

frank pecan
desert sky
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far better than all dc in the same direction

peak hinge
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Are you able to warp to your spawn? Or do you need a hyperbeacon?

frank pecan
peak hinge
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Thanks

jagged flume
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@serene latch & @snow seal vs @sharp bane & @autumn maple

autumn maple
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cyka

desert sky
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@serene latch i swear

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i want to see shields more than a match
pls win

serene latch
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uhhhh

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you might be disappointed

frank pecan
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#546947839008440330 message

vivid ore
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most players signed up for this are pretty experienced in DOM

gilded spindle
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might be saving for tempest lmao

desert sky
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qawa saving up bluepages LUL

frank pecan
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Did you all laged?

desert sky
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no the stream running for me

frank pecan
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No just me damn it......

serene latch
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NO

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damn internet

vivid ore
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half time

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nice to watch

desert sky
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oh god did qawa disconnect?

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nooooo the stream have delay

frank pecan
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No,

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Damn t,

desert sky
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hey i've seen shields atleast two matchs!!!!!

frank pecan
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@jagged flume Actually ion kitters are one of the meta,

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They are great and well accepted.

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Was one of the champion ship Hansel used in fact.

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(Hansel was the one who made the 4 ion kitter popular)

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These ships are counted as "hunt ships", made to have great K-D rate,

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However Salephz isn't tactically making a full use of the ship type......

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Also because ze Kommandant countered it with proper tactic.

short tartan
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oops I missed the 1st hour of the tournament

frank pecan
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Elim champion team playing elim ships in domination. Perfect.

serene latch
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i hate

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my internet

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bruh

short tartan
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focus on the game

serene latch
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why do you think i'm typing

short tartan
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idk

wind blaze
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DC

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Disconnected

short tartan
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ah

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stream is behind

wind blaze
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1m behind

still cairn
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Sorry Qawa

serene latch
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we were winning too ;-;

short tartan
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yeah :/

frank pecan
still cairn
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Yes that deck rammer was very fun to watch

snow seal
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WAHT

autumn maple
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lmao

still cairn
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What happened?

autumn maple
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everything died

snow seal
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IDK

frank pecan
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Chinese fans reacted well and the nick name of elim-champ team is proven great.

still cairn
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JJeeez

short tartan
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how do you win in Dom?

frank pecan
serene latch
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@jagged flume do i join back

still cairn
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QAWA U LUCKY

serene latch
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i disconnected

short tartan
serene latch
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when we were wining

desert sky
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LMFAO

serene latch
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:/

vivid ore
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3rd and last RE

unkempt gulch
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XD

still cairn
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Luck balances out in the end

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always

vivid ore
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rules are written much more clear now ...

gilded spindle
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so scuffed

frank pecan
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@serene latch@snow seal
You did great. WP that was. Love from CCC.

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Also it turned out not just CCC players got connection issue today.

short tartan
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how fast is repairing in Dom?

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or are you only allowed to resupply?

frank pecan
short tartan
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ok

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do you don't need to do crew construction stuff

frank pecan
mortal flame
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Current contestents:

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Lol

peak hinge
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Do we both get 750000 or do we need to share

serene latch
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GG

frank pecan
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GG,

mortal flame
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Finally!

vivid ore
mortal flame
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Lmao both re's used

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Unbelievable

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It's 2am where I am 😭

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Lmao

jagged flume
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@shy dust & @frank pecan vs @jaunty viper & @peak hinge up next

mortal flame
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Wow!

vivid ore
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uuuhhh that was exciting!

mortal flame
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What a crazy turnaround at the end

serene latch
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definitely a highlight

errant forge
jagged flume
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The game is open and waiting for you