#Tournament Chat
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3v3 too much, also causes lags
Im fine with 2v2 but saris dont wanted to because of lags
But yeah i would like to play 2v2, even with lags thats better than playing 8hours of 1v1 games
I would also like 2v2
i wanna participate this time but since i'm not the most confortable in dom i would like to play w/ a teammate..
so i'm in favor of 2v2
i'd be down to be ur teammate if saris changes it
:D okay
yeah saris pls 2v2 ill be a good boy and fix my ping
(Ping turned off so that I don't flood Saris' notifs lol)
What if we have a Google Docs based form for submissions, to a private drive that select tourney individuals can see and use to verify the "date modified" field of all submitted ships? We can have the tournament pre-stream involve Saris showing that tourney ships do not exist in his folder, witness a brief clickthrough of every ship to indicate that their date created+modified is at or before form submission time, and then begin the tournament with the co-host announcing that the independent party says all dates were confirmed to be within rules, and ship upload into the computer drive. If seeing ship internals loses the element of surprise for certain ship designs, then we can have camera blur for all ships in the google drive, or just announce that the third party verified it all without the pre-stream fanfare.
I think Saris' character is very solid, and I myself wouldn't have ever raised that concern for tampering. Personally I would be fine if Saris just joins the tournaments without extra measures too, because I think from a utilitarian perspective, the community loses more from not having Saris around to teach us than from a self-defined risk of tampering from one of our community leaders.
There's also possible holes in my way of verification either, the most glaring to me being that we kept the verifyer's identity private which can result in tampering. We can publicize the verifyer too which keeps a sort of checks-and-balance system, which imo is as good as any tournament can get.
yeah
would be nice to see you guys as a team
Przjem + Qawa would be a strong team too.
Who you were with last time?
If it's 2v2 I wanna try dcing some small tb rails
But I'd need a fairly good partner
try practicing rts and low-apm ships
like, rails can be click-and-forget
Sooo emmm... If its an 2v2 i would like to see if i can be somones teammate. DM me if interested.
How tf can rails be click and forget
like, click at an enemy and forget about it
How do rails fan withought you fanning them
I could see a dom ai being really good tho
Like way better than an elim ai
hotkeys
So like but you have to click to fan???
theres no dom ai
Not YET
bro wants to make oem.vim
The sake of balance mods is to further refine the game into a more enjoyable state for everyone, so it's a necessary and cool step in my mind to take. A vote is pointless because one was already held with results that already told me that mods are not only not preferred, but massively the less favored option #tournament-announcements message
Also the results of an additional vote would be irrelevant since I'm going to do it anyway
also note that the rebalance mod is far less modded than an actual modded tourney
i consider it like vanilla 2.0
It's just a collection of stat changes yeah, not a content mod
i assume most people would prefer not to play a modded tourney because it requires they learn how to use new parts. with the rebalance mod, there are no new parts or such
i thought by modded it meant using one of the op mods, not vanilla rebalance
Are you giving me more crap about how you don't like the changes?
no?
no? i meant the vote was unclear
i thought "modded tourney" meant something like the old kroom's forge tourney
air said he assumed modded tourney meant like abh tourney
Fair enough. Even if it's not a direct correlary I'd argue that even if it was closer the same results would emerge
And y'know, a vote is still pointless give that I'm going to do it regardless
Unfortunately the message you're replying to is massively outdated and I forgot to unpin it. As I'm hosting tournaments in an official capacity I'm no longer interested in even trying to participate, as it requires all of my attention and focus to properly host it. I appreciate the sentiment but for the time being if one wants to see a tournament performance from me they'll need to host an unofficial competitive tournament themself
I could host one, an unofficial 1.5m tournament where the prize is, winning
~~Hm, I wonder if I should ask for a domination player role. I also think a 1v1v1 tournament wouldn't be bad π ~~
@unkempt gulch (Please also relay Yugi these questions if you'd be so willing) @odd zealot (Do you go by Vochi now?) @errant forge and @serene latch I'm setting up the next 2v2 domination tournament that'll take place on the 22nd and 29th, if you don't mind can you answer a few of the following questions:
- Would Single elimination best of threes or Double elimination best of ones be preferred?
- What time would be best? Something sooner than 7pm UTC? Something later? I can make any time work really

I'm asking these of you gentlemen because I'm unfamiliar with domination or the time zones you guys participate in, so I'm assuming you'll have better answers than my assumptions
Why are you Dogeing my I'm asking because I want to make the event ideal for you
done
You can respond later if it's a problem
For me it can be a aouble elimination best of one.

i also would like double elim, best of one
as for the time, slightly later is preferrable (to me) but i'm fine with 7m UTC
3AM
LOL
Yeah I'm kinda thinking I'll try not doing 7pm UTC for our compatriots on the other side of the planet
5pm UTC?
2am UTC?
thats 3am for me π
can't fit everybody on the same time, unfortunately. hard to find a good universal time
Something in the middle?
idk who this would interfere w/ tho
eh screw it, somebody else come up with times
Always been one of the more strugglesome parts of setting up tournaments
fine.. 11pm utc works for me however thats late for europe and even worse for russia
there is more than 10 people from those regions that gonna participate for sure
saris you had a spreadsheet or something that included a bunch of people's timezones right?
I have this for helping categorize it but I need Hansel and Yugi's responses before I can use it
These are the perfered UTC time that CCC players would like to take a match. Among all time, 8:00 p.m. to 11:00p.m. UTC is the time we would like to avoid to match, so we can try avoid that, or perhaps help CCC players avoid that part of the schedule.
Most active CCC players are night owls of some kind already, cause we always need to stay up late to play with enough players. so be free to make the tournament schedule. We can adapt to a wide range of time.
wait does that mean u switched the am and pm?
Oh wait yes I did,
Let me change that picture.....
Ok this picture serves better. Deleted the former one lol.
This is a fantastic representation, thank you
I made it for most part of europe
I mean the higher line is, the better it is
I... I know how to.... I can read graphs you know
is it gonna be 2v2s?
Yes
Essentially everybody in this chat said 2v2 better, so just gonna do that
I'll hold you to this and be upset if you fail to do so πΆ
btw saris when making the bracket can u give qawa and i some time to wake up?
since it's pretty early..
Lol, lmao
is that a yes
I have to wake up two hours before the event to have breakfast and make sure everything's fine
I am unimpressed with your plea but shall consider it
i am asking you almost 3 weeks in advance
just wake up earlier smh
how early is this for americans?
It starts at 7am for me and I'm far on the west coast
It's not hard to wake up at 6 if you really want to participate
That second timer actively adjusts to your local time yeah?
Saris could you pin that message for me?
Thanks!
Przyjem it's accurate for me and I've checked it twice now on both ends. It says it's at 7am, and if I look up 2pm UTC it also says that's at 7am
Alright
Probably i messed up something with change of the time for summer season, 4pm might be right then
Thank you guys for your work! I am writing an offical annoncment of it for CCC. The tournament have our full awarness. Hopefully, CCC will have 2 team attending this time. Though Hansel and AnD claim that they might not come.
whats cancer paint, i havent herd the term?
if you stare at a certain set of colors in a certain combination for too long, your eyes will hurt
now cencer paint is utilizing that to effectively blind people, and it's just not good for anyone involved, nor healthy
I think this speaks for itself.
Very painful to look at.
my poor eyes
its not even moving and Im aleady sick of looking at it
now with Teleport Beacons, that allow to make interesting strategies for dom tourney
Yes lol.
i thought the stance was "if they don't know what it is, don't enlighten them"
true but if they don't know what not to do they might do it by accident
i have never seen accidental cancer paint lol
sry for calling your ship ugly btw
''I am sowwy I accidentally made nucleaw bawmb :c''
:0 shieldless pd tb ion orbital rammer
TB ion is cancer on its own it doesn't need cancer paint :>
Please don't post examples because it allows people to copy and use it
Sorry, noted, will not happen anymore.
I heard from nightlord that you said that and rage quit, I'm curious why
I have explained this time and time again.
At this point it's literally a quote of mine.
''Unlike the already quite annoying TB rails that put you out of your misery very quickly if they counter you, TB ions insure that you're tortured as long as humanely possible and draining your life essence and will to live as they go.''
If your really weak to tb ig, but usually tb ion aren't strong archetypes, like I don't think I've ever lost to one.
How so?
I've tried ion with 10 engine rooms and it gets countered hard too.
I used commencement and beat nightlords
Even my funky anti-tb rail ship can't best them as they like ramming.
Huh...
You also can beat morbiters with ions, a feat I can not imagine accomplishing without heaps of back armor.
Cuz tb are just bad when pulling so close so on an ion rammer seems like a weaker ion rammer
We could ping nightlord for explanation ig
Yeah but TB ion can both ram in certain cases and do the usual TB nonsense.
TB rails can't do that.
I don't really care to be honest.
@hazy root how is success rate with that ship
tb rails can ram, thats how i stop u from using ur nukes
Yes but how will you be able to fire at me with precision then.
i dont need to
Rail rammer is a concept that is... A concept that exists.
Eventually I might be able to out-torque you though. I don't think you've ever used your ashling or whatever it's called to ram me.
so i just slowly eat up your armor and then eventually there will be an opening into the reactor or cr or whatever
i have done this, u mustve forgotten
Hmmm hard to say. I didn't played a lot with this TB ion, but it's pretty successful. I usually lose against orbiter walls because I can't get a good ram (but usually orbiter walls are played by experts, like Air, Qawa, you have to take that in the balance). I tried once against a morbiter and I won. Against other Ion ship I usually win (4/5 victory ratio), TB rails I would say 1/2.
But I like this ship not because of victory ratio, but because it's awesome to fly with. It was also really fun to build, putting 12ERs, 4TBs and 6 ion emitters for 3 LRs was challenging, but it somehow works π
4tbs were enough to flip the morbiter? Also who was the tb rail pilots?
I don't have to flip the ship, I just need to get the back. If I remember correctly it was Juno and Nick for the TB rails.
I use the TBs to get the ram and stay locked (that's why I called this ship leech)
In the end, I'm not sure this ship is a strong archetype because it's hard countered by other fast ships
Interesting, it'd be cool see more of this ship in action against other good pilots
@raven fern do you still have the REC file ?
@naive lion I am afraid you might make an incredibly wacky TB ion that will be unstoppable you seem to be interested with the concept.
Oh by the way what's the best totally original prototype you've made. Best I mean the most competitively functional.
It's not that I wanna make one, I just don't think tb synergies well with ions so I was curious why you said it was cancerous
Yeah it's just a TB rail that takes 50 times longer to kill you, and you still can't fight back or whatever you do bounces off the shields, so survivability doesn't matter!..
Maybe, but i'm not looking through 100+ replays unless you have a specific date ^^
There were also Luna and Air, you said you may create a vid, that's why I'm asking
doesn't it lose to morbiters, ions, walls, and deck cannon rammers?
most tb ships have relatively similar "i can't do jack if i'm a bad pilot and/or don't have good enough thrust" but weapons help against specific archetypes
rails help v walls, cannons help v very fast rammers, ions help v <archetype here>
and also ion ttk is usually shorter than rails in my experience?
once a tb ion gets a good ramlock from tb u just die, for rails u can come back if they don't 1shot
i'd imagine the morbiter wins in a ramlock since 6 ions probably isn't enough damage
same logic for other ion ships
walls are too difficult to catch/will easily get in a good position
deck cannon rammers would likely win in a ramlock too
Great that the next tourney tries Domination.
Trying differnt game modes is the right thing to do.
will try to team up and join
Tonight I took counts, I've more victories than defeat, but Luna totally countered that ship with her nukes. After 1 defeat and 1 victory, she totally countered that ship.
Some screenshots
Standard ion ships lose, they get flanked and destroyed
Also the Settings look fine for tourney!
did not find anything to critisize so far ... πΊ
Ofc Domination would also be interesting 1v1.
mind if i try?
Sure
will get on soon
Love how all three reactors are redlining
It's a defeat π qawa won
Yup, evem good for you now ships under min. limit cant cap and hold points so i wouldnt be able to rush you as i was doing π
LOL
i don't remember this match- oh, that was just a skill issue on my end, i think salephz and his lighter setup would do better and fan more
i havent fought that new one
in the past my strat was just to bounce and win
looks pretty easy
if u need more data i can offer a hand @hazy root
O shit that's a pretty big prize
nion wins against his tb ion too
No side armor (Almost none) no chance of survival.
yeah i see he mentioned it
in fact i wasn't able to side nuke that ship and i lost every time i tried
i had to nuke the front shields
nl has been improving that ship a lot over the last few weeks, i didn't need the nukes to win with nion and now i do
- what is the best domination ship?
burger is best
kills enemy with obesity
on a more serious note, it depends on your apm skill bracket and current price range
yeah you need fast fingers to eat a burger
on a more more serious note, you want to learn how to fully use autoram/orbi tactics if you don't have the apm, but are decent in building
yeah so you can make a delicious burger
need decent building skill
and autoram the burger into your mouth
Every type of dom ship can be countered by something else
so, like waste ships and waste ships?
what counters deck cannon rammers?
how do those counter deck cannon rammers? they are very easy to dodge and often deal little damage if only 1-2 hit the frontal armour
well your other option is kites or brute force it with your own deck cannons
Why not regular cannons
Waste Ships arent that OP, people are scared of them because of chinesse people telling everyone to not evem use them... Those Waste Ships are good archetype, but not as powerful as people think, thats because its simple and easy archetype to build, almost everyone, even begginers can build them. Thats why those Waste Ships use to be "scary" for not entertained dom players, same as it was with Qawa's 6DC Green Rammer, KMC was complaining about how great and deadly it is, thats obviously solid ship and i like it, but thats 438k too easy to lose for its price ....Back to Waste Ships, there is some counters which im using. Mainly thats emps, some 1DC ships, full armor deck cannons and tougher lc ships.
has this person seen oem fight ever
Stop complaining about oem, i know he had great RTS movement.. but why you even saying now if i saw him? is that matter or unenabling me to answer a question?
it's more a matter of the potential of a skill gap beyond most of today's tournament participants
Yeah i can confirm
instead,my argument is saying it's the other way around in higher-apm situations where you go above the usual dom fleets' apm saturation limit
However gog is back, but he is banned from all here
Im currently looking for a teammate for the team domination tournament
don't think the guy's perfection
anyone still looking for a duo teammate?
of course there is some people
vochi is already with kommandant i think, but not sure
One of the best dom players who got second place in the last tourney with somebody who I have never seen play dom.
This is gonna be a WIIIIILD carry!
who is one of the best dom players?
he havent won any match last tournament
vochi i mean
so i dont know what you talkin about @surreal pecan
maybe you messed him with tonie, my partner, he took second place with me
Kommandant.
Obviously.
Oh wait kommandant didn;'t get second.
But he got in top 4 I remember.
Yeah kommandant is solid at dom
Mhm.
Do you play dom?
At least in the last 2 weeks?
@jagged flume can u update the screenshot of the settings in the document
specifically the allow ship construcution
Shore
tyty
Done with my last up-date in July. The next up-date would be after tournament.
Hope this is helpful for new players who is interested in domination tournament and wants to pick up some vessels to begin with.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2988713676
Tis impressive how little interest there is for domination, only five teams
At least last time there was 12 teams, only 5 currently
i might join but i just dont like it as much as elim especially if there is a timer
If I had domination ships I'd join. However, the time needed to make a diverse and well rounded fleet is what's holding me back
As i know some people already said they gonn join too, there should be more than 10 teams i hope
However most of people even dom players dont want to participate because they have no chance in their opinion, but there is still second and third plave which is great to take. Also tournaments are by far the best way to gain exeprience. You not only practice by playing before it, buy after, you know what you have to change about your ships, strategies, what issues to fix
||edit: nvm thatβs a stupid question, sorry||
Was about to post a screen of the rule "Ships used in the tournament must be of your own creation" haha
I can try to help you with it, in domination thats hard to say "use this", because everything is apm and rts skill related
But if you have some questions feel free to ask
thats another thing, i have domination ships but they arent great
You can use them as an example archetypes to build your ships
If I were to begin playing domination that's probably what i'd do
Yet, the time issue remains
I've never played Dom and I would rather watch a tournament first instead of jumping in head first
i cannot attented due to scheduling, not that it is not 1.5m elimination
it is good to see tournament variety, or it might eventually become bland, the way consuming only 1 food will make you dislike it
Same also if I new how to play it well I would
I would learn dom but itβs kinda hard to go and loose when I can just play elim and have a better shot at winning
Dom is really fun when you know basics and have basic ships.
As i said tournaments are great way to learn. Firsts you learn by practicing before tournament, then after tourney you know what you have to change with your ships and strategies.
But mainly thats just fun to play
Its also alot easier to find games now with the amount of people practicing atm
Good time to pick it up
Also Yugi's massive and fantastic catalog of ships to start learning with
It seems to me that many people register before starting, as it usually happens
iwould join the tourney and play dom at all if the ships used were more pretty
you can make a change
would require skills 
you can do it
The community once again proving the superiority of elimination.
Jokes aside...
Well you see, domination requires building like 20 different meta ships that you use depending on the situation, each requiring specific utilization. So you basically need an entire fleet. That alone wouldn't be a problem, as elimination also requires quite a bit of ships, even though still way less (Usually you'd be fine with 4-5 meta ships and would be able to counter most enemies), but the real problem is the fact that you need to know how these different ships synergize with each other and have to use up to 5 ships at a time for the best effect, all at once. Plus good Dom gameplay requires superb multitasking and attention to the entire map, not just wherever only a group of your ships are.
yes, the domination mode requires a lot of control
Cannon alpha fest
Yeah. RTS and RTT are commonly commented enjoyable to watch but painful to play with. It is quit skill demanding and take some understanding of the game before you can actually start particepating the fun. Though 20 meta dom ship isn't really more work (cause they are small) than 3~5 elim meta, and you can also play with a smaller line up as well (such as 10 meta ships), it is just the tactic understanding that is standing between most other player and experienced dom players.
Well I can promise not to throw waste ships into battle first, it is understandable for people to dislike them I mean, I respect that, even when in tournament. Though there are stored waste ship designs of mine and I won't feel shame to through them back to players who start the waste ship fight first lol.
Also I am pretty sure players such as Przyjem have stored lots of counter tactics to fight them. So when in tournament, they won't be that game-breaking good.
I know You, Hansel and Ketcha have big emp barges so thats not about not taking them becaue ther are op, but not taking them for other reason
Obviously i have waste ship in my tournament arsenal too, however i prefer basic 4lc ships, instead of wastes.. i like to mix them and use both as thats work really good
Yeah me too. Basic 4LC have their advantage against waste ships too, and when waste ships are counterable by enemy, basic LC and wasty ones are better used depending on tactic need.
Also basic 4lc have some durability against empe, obviosuly not much but can endure some emps. But waste ships one emp and they are gone
True: at least they won't be stably-two-shoot-drained while waste ship of similar price often does.
Yeah that's exactly what I said, building 20 ships alone isn't a problem, using them is.
Same applies to elimination as well, but to a lesser extent, as you're at least piloting a single ship.
Elimination is easy to get to but extremely difficult to master, whilst dom is hard to get into but even harder to master.
What I'd want, is to be able to hotkey active ships so that I can much more easily switch between them
I would definatly agree that. Though it seems confltct with the present key binned system.
turns out my teammate paired up with another guy, and i got exams
;-;
There is @nova juniper that was looking for teammate
exams too ;-;
R.I.P
We will have the audiance seat ready for you though. Good luck with your exams.
thx
@gilded spindle you participating?
nobody to play with
and I have no dom experience so I wasn't thinking about it too much
I think deniz is free
Im still looking
Hold on, what time is the tournament happening?
I looked and I am finding conflicting times
7am CET to est says 1am
7am PDT to est says 10am
mayube confusing am and pm?
Where are you getting CET
I checked the Am and PM as well as the time zones listed
Ignore that I'm fixing it now no idea how that occured
thanks
It is at 7am pacific standard time, which translates to 10am eastern standard time
Apologies for the confusion thanks for signing up
There gonna be 10 teams for sure, probably even more
I bet on like 8
what r u betting
i meant what r u putting at stack
*stake
i'll bet 1x 1.5m paintjob there's more than 8 teams
My "bet" thing was kind of a joke and I didn't even realize already 6 teams have signed up, but just because I want excuse to paint more comp ships to brush up on my art skills, I'll also do the same.
ooh ooh can i join the bet
Nah, im 100% sure there gonna be more than 8
1 or 2 more teams from china should join
Spacecat and TWrecks should join
And more....
Hello, so in the announcement of the new Tournemant it says, Max fleet Value 4500000, does it mean everyone can spawn Ships up to 4500000 or can both players have a 4500000 Fleet?
Both have
Thanks
@jagged flume the rules for tourney show the settings from an older version of cosmoteer - maybe update it?
I think was decided to not update them because were perfect
i mean the settings dialogue is the old one - it looks differnt now
NOT to change the actual settings
What you talking about?
Isnt it the same? Where is issue for you?
that it is not the same ... come on ...
Tell me where is the issue
and the diffirence in gameplay between those settings
because thats the same, thats what i said
well you can assume that the players who read that may misread it
i said it is a minor issue ...
dude how do we join the tournament?
#1125250629024092200
Except obviously you need a partner.
or slave for doing your commands
π
Would be fair.
Considering what "crews" in this game have been majoying heavy physical labor, continuously following orders from an irreversible authority without right to speak of themselves, basicly handing their entire life to others, who only paid once to stations, usually with less budget then buying a cargo would need, Cosmoteer-verse is probably not a world where citizen society is popular, like in Star Trek more like the good-old Feudalism 40k. So continuation of this rightful right in reality would then be just fine for cosmoteer players.
:/
or maybe they are just massively cloned?
Or maybe thats just bunch of pixels?
@odd zealot What is the π¦ for?
You wont understad.
Is it a joke or irony about slavery?...... Was just kidding lmao.
Not about that
Vochi's goals are beyond our primitive three-dimensional understanding.
π¦
Wait. Why ladder?
C o n f u z i o n
Now a cake?
W h a
Oh no
Its a fish cake
;-;
my goals are beyond your comprehension but this is a little more offtopic than I am comfortable with
Hollowan, Slowking, Vochi and Zemako are all still looking for partners
Zemako found partner
u haven't done this yet
Well y'see he never said sure, he said shore 
<@&340613895427325952> przyjem pt 2
I actually don't even know how to make a joke about that
?warn @bright anchor rules 2, 7 and 15
dziszsmiampoiachoyzszalpiniuf#8880 has been warned.
ja ci dam ty ΕwiΕska przycwelona ruro lewaku jeden dojade ciΔ parΓ³wo
what did he do
dms
some polish guy said some no no words, although why your name is being brought up is questionable
There are some wild poles, but dunno why air was complaining about me
you got nothing to do with it so its quite random
exactly where did they say that
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Truly a π¦ moment.
Was about to ask around for a dom teamate but then realized the tournament is 9am my time
Ye Iβm probably gonna sleep past that
then dont sleep past that
It's 7am my time π
fix ur biological clock and play the tournament
Ouch
yup gotta wake up really early
Also I have siblings and I will probably wake them up with talking to another person
My family is a family of late sleepers
and they were supposed to wake up themselves
and they failed and u go play domination tournament
Just play quietly lol
Alright Iβll ask around but no promises Iβll be able to show up until I get everything squared away
tell ur dad hes man of the house and he has to wake everyone up
What did przy do.
Also 7AM PST Is such a good time for me (7PM)... Too bad this is a domination tournament.
Thats a good time in my opinion,
Impressive how you remember it, that was irrelevant for me
I meant what did he do right now
nothing
But....
i have no idea
Hehe
there probably will be more by 22th july, people are just waiting last minute
xd
can we have a vote for enabling the sharing of credits?
Hmm
Honestly i prefer normal rules, but sure we can vote
Interesting idea for sure
Waaait... Only 8? I counted 10...
since the time he wrote 2 other teams signed up
Ahh.
And I was here thinking I've won the bet against Air π
@white apex DM me the ship you want me to paint I will paint it when I get home from my village trip π
Or make me choose out of a few ones, you make the rules.
Do the ladders mean something?
I have no idea but ppl just like to reacting with it on mine messeges.
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You started responding and spamming with Lobster emoji to everything, without any reason
Some people made the same and started responding with Ladder emoji to your messages, also without any reason
Love cosmo drama
The best kind
I totally didn't put the first ladder
"The Ladder Drama" lmao
Well what can i say exscept....π¦
πͺ
I can see deleted messages in the log you know
Yeah i was about to say that.
Im fine with that, Vochi is good friend of me
Just deleted messages to dont spam bullshit on tournament chat
Yeah im fine with all of the things he said.
where do i download rebalance mod?
Karma
Karma? I did something?
No, people responding to mint with ladders is karma.
bruh i saw vilda do this before
are the ships in the tournaments controlled manually?
yeah, piloting is a big part of multiplayer especially elimination
This ship(s) is perfection
I will gladly paint it.
Also I only really have to paint 1mil's worth.
Also what faction/style/design.
as a player of both gamemodes i feel domination need more skill to "pilot"
Yes. They are commanded by you as there isn't an AI in the game mode.
Don't you mean it requires more APM, awareness and quick thinking? You're commanding lots of ships but not manually piloting for the most part.
Regarding piloting, elimination definitely takes the cake in my opinion. It's a lot more focused on the hands on aspect and various manoeuvres
depth vs breadth, tbh
dom has a much larger macro aspect is what i think przyjem is talking about
with rts being somewhat undercooked compared to⦠actual rtses (no auto-attack :megamind:)
domination is just unnecessarily difficult, though stuff like autoram lower the skill floor a lot;
in elim, not every player uses direct control to play their single ship, but it's preferred due to, again, being the lower skill floor option (qe strafe best wasd layout)
i err on the side of elim being harder due to having played some rts games and just having a feel for what could be done by humans, and the absolute depth of play i've seen with both gamemodes
okay in case anyone is seething: imo
@bright anchor i contacted him
hes on summer vacation, he has no way of responding he wanted me to say this
hes the master of both worlds
all of the united realms
he wanted to say
"if anyone needs to buy paragon, they shall contact bomba, he is my second in command, he will be commanding the operation, so please, if you want to order a paragon contact bomba, send him three of your ships, from (elimination, domination) and await for response."
so i guess he said im gonna be sending people paragon
he gave me the power, power of the frog
SzybkiKazik42...
that was his name wasnt it...
πi can finally buy paragon
he was a great and well known player in the hood, one if not the BEST arena players
Need to order paragon sir?
yah i will later
sure, as you wish
you have all the time you need
Yeah, including the Ring of death
he used the meta to bypass storm
and bouncy pads
he created the Avoider fight
he was the first player of arena
he was called fool by many... but those so called fools are the only ones brave enough to see the truth
szybkikazik42 was his first student
everyone wants to meet him, he was the greatest player ever
he is in deep pits of siberia, he was sent by saris
he said hes "too dangerous to deal with"
he could end everyones career in this game...
gog ? lol
gog... one of his many friends
they met back in siberia... with a plan to kill the cosmoteer moderation team....
What is happening here.
i think gog is somewhere deep into russia, probably sent by Saris ( ban )
something that should be read by higher life forms, with an altruistic drive to save humanity from the moderation team
but then... after SzybkiKazik42 went to moscow after 2 years... he saw gog... with 28 STAB WOUNDS..
With a note signed by saris and Beef...
"dont mess with us"
what you talking about bro
he was killed
#off-topic message
in a terrorist attack back in moscow
Just in case
he was then reincarnated into angel
and he was haunting everyone on the server
he believed in buddhist religion
Al qaeda
and america
the ones that were in 2001
it was brutal but SzybkiKazik42 didnt give up
he went on to be the greatest cosmoteer players
yeah wtf hes not black
I did not say that.
beep. boop. boop beep?
SzybkiKazik continued his legacy
and lived on as one of the greatest player in history
(cuz he didnt even discover fire
he was born back in the forest
raised by men with spears
thats the bad thing...
he was raised in the forest hoood
so a lot of black men were in there
it was the painful truth....
he had nightmares... he thought they were devil
but they had suspicion... cuz father black mother black... he white and... how that happened
im a tribalist
we live back in the desert of saudi arabia and cut poeple head with sabre
like in 1914
but we discover fire
and bright
hes on the move... you can not
but...
i can contact him
get him out of africa...
and make him our king again
i can call him right now! i got boys back in africa trying to set a compilant regime in nigeria
yes.. they have to outrun white men so can survive
if they got caught...
sold for 10$ on black market
<@&340613895427325952>
that is offensive
tf going on back here.
I have no clue.
?warn @bright anchor r15
Paladyn ΕwiatΕa#8880 has been warned.
Move this elsewhere please
yeah can you stop flooding the tournament chat with useless discussion?!
it isin't the trash bin here
?warn @oak belfry rule 13
feeeeeeeedmeeeee_memeboi#5238 has been warned.
I wish people could play with their alts by themselves sometimes
you have to admit the creative writing here got quite creative
sadly tournament chat is not roleplay chat
We have a rival to Volkhat if anything
Ok tournament discussion now
Any new ships for your tournament?
Seems there is less activity before dom tournament, most of dom players are kinda outsiders of cosmoteer discord commumities
And the people that is commonly active on those discords dont want to play dom tourney
i would play but im busy that day so i cant i also dont have good dom ships
There is some decent teams, gonna be much more entertaining to watch then last time im March where was huge gap between most of players
whats the current bracket looking like?
how many teams are there?
because apparently the two people i was vouching for are being kinda dumb :P
Bracket gonna be made a while before tournamemt, because people still can sign up
If bracket will be half done now, placement of teams im bracket would be time of signing up dependent
You can easly count how much team are now - 11
?
Ktaekho x Gog undefeatable troll.
The fact that you're using 4 cockpits on the orbiter hurts me beyond belief.
15K waste that could've been avoided D:
Ctaehko was wild
And also cringey.
I was not making a threat sir. It was all big plan of SzybkiKazik42 and Gog
But for a person who makes complaints about 50 credits not being optimized, wasting 50K with such a silly excuse is still weird okay, would be more fun for me to paint so not like I care.
Just add 3 tiles of corridor next to the assym part smh my head.
Or 2 crew and an airlock/fe/light tile.
"look at cp" 
@hazy brook as ultra resigned, will you participate with someone else?
yeah probably
Not much free dom players left, btw whats about your old partner polar?
You was good team
oof
parents suck alot sometimes
and for no good reasons
I mean, I would have put more resistance against going with their wishes but my cousins are going, so I have to go
sorry tapeable
life happens, nothing you can do. don't blame yourself
Aight due to some events plus it's very late for me and @agile flare We will not be in the event. Everyone the people nobody know will not be in the event it's a sad evening.
gn
<@&340613895427325952>
maybe you don't know about me
If you don't know your opponent how will you decide who will win?
<@&340613895427325952>
r15
Just block em if you don't like them
They didn't brake any rules
Yet
they very clearly did
coward
If you have an issue with this move it to #discord-meta
Also insulting people won't help you
Then why moderate if you can just block them?
not insulting isn't helping me either
Again if you want to continue this move it to #discord-meta
Not insulting people won't get you a warning
huh i thought i saw an insult, seems like its deleted. provocation doesn't get you anywhere mate
SarisSummerWisp
@serene latch LMAOO
?
YOU PINGED ME NOT SARIS
Oh are there other people taking saris' nickname
do you not notice the difference
how is that you you're qwaaaaaaaawa
I see now but it doesn't display when writing the ping
saris summer vs saris winter
sometimes it doesnt, when i was trying to ping qawa in the above message it didnt give a popup, but bc of the new username system it didnt matter
also check if u have the username update
to be the official sarissummerwisp
Oh phewh I was looking at the date and panicked because it was the 22nd lmao
forgot it's already tomorrow
Yup, tournament today
Seems there is 13 teams, one more than last time but thats odd number to make brackets
CCC is preparing to stream this tournament! We will relay the youtube streaming and about 20 audiance are expected to watch it all through, more to come.
I also worte an introduction for every player who joined the tournament for CCC audiance, only except four inactive player who I really don't know about. Many of the audiance didn't know you guys much but they will after tonight (the match is 6hours later at 10p.m. for us).
That's awesome! I hope that streaming and connection issues will be completely smooth this time round
@zealous quarry i think you have to sign up
yo
I thought my teammate did.
yugi, are you going to stream on billibilli or where?
you and as well your teammate have to sign up to confirm both of you attend
Oh, sorry.
no check in channel his time?
... i am Here
checked in
Checking in gonna be in 1h20min...
where?
Yes. And I already am doing that.
because my family wants to watch
Saris gonna stream for us, yugi streams to china where vpn is needed to watch youtube
lol
hoping for someone to wakeup too π
Yeah.
Any schedule coming out?
Thats 6am for saris and some people, chill
Probably check-in gonna start in an hour and tournament in 2hours
Yeah i could be wrong
look at the time in the #tournament-announcements
I know, however in every tournament i was taking part, it was delayed
Especially it can be delayed now when its 6am for Saris
gl hf
You too, would be interesting to meet you in finals again:D
π
do we get pinged 1 hour before the tournament?
usually..
ok
truly
@jagged flume will you be using a lot of technical jargon in the stream?
if so my family is not gonna understandπ
To be honest the check in is something I'm gonna phase out it doesn't really help me
If you do that remember to change the doc.
No problem, we know you are here ready to play
Epicc, thank you very much.
Will Saris be the only one casting?
You hope so?
This is laggy.
Fair
hope qawa will do better so i can actually enjoy shielded ships
Ha ha ha
check~ping~
I hope the schedule is out.
Nuclear annihilation in T-4 minutes
no sign of @mortal flame so far
Hope he comes at time
Cant compete Deniz is out. So am i.
Nuclear annihilation in T-3 minutes
if my teammate is not showing up you can join
That coudl be a possability
give it some minutes
Nuclear annihilation in T-2 minutes
Yeah....
Nuclear annihilation in T-1 minutes
Any Schedule out yet?
yeah any bracket?
@jagged flume Is it fine to me to team up with space Cat if his teammate dosent show sighn of life?
Nuclear annihilation has begun, good luck to everyone
Damn it did I missed the WWIII?
@mortal flame last chance! - i'm about to team up with @odd zealot
The bracket now has Spacecat and Vochi teamed up, @shell maple and @mortal flame are no longer eligible for participation
U DID WHAT
What if deniz and tw team up in case they come?
I worte you one too.
WHAT
Share
WHAT
ohno
(i wouldl ike to see my introduction please ^^)
Deniz cant use his pc.
F
They were supper brief, basicly just about you two are champion, Qawa is visionary, and Salephz is a friend of CCC as Salephz founded us quit a lot of files.
I nicked named your team as the Elim-Champ team,
and mine? π
ill cry if ive been left out
Told the legend of the Poland Cosmoteer Community, explained why you guys are quit alsome comparing to the size of your community.
I even introduced INC a bit.
Yeah. I wrote INC as the foundation of both your power and ambition, a great player who lead the group.
@hardy mulch We chat here.
Gimme like 5 minutes
π
^
I guess it's up to Spacecat
Wow this plot is getting complexcated......
im ok with that - if @mortal flame wants to team up again it is up to them to negotiate.
If I'm needed I'm willing to join
I'm so confused. I was just waiting for people to call me for a game lol
I've been here the whole time
awkward..
You were pinged like 5 times to show yourself
Well, how long do I have to make stuff lmao
yes
I don't think it is wise to coop two who just meet in dom field to tournament.
got it - so i will be with @mortal flame recks as planned - it was the academic 15 minutes late so ...
I can give you mine ships.
gl
where bracket
I can share all of mine.
i don't think they're allowed to use them for the tourney
i think mint gonna give his ships to slowk
bc it must be made by them or their partner/collaborations
Just kidding lol know the rules.
some ppl R late and brackets must be altered - stress to saris
Again I want to reiterate, I was here the whole time waiting lol. Stayed up to 12am my time to wait.
Just didn't know I was supposed to say something. Assumed people would call me in when it was my turn to fight that's all.
you did not respond in time - it is fine now you whre late 15 academic minutes ...
I will be participating in the tournament with my partner [@partner] and my in-game name is SarisWinterwisp. I have confirm that I will be present on the 22nd and 29th of July at 7am PST (convert to local time), and will remember to check in an hour before the event
Those are Saris words
@still cairn
@ I can't type chinese characters and @nova juniper vs @waxen pollen and @zealous quarry for our first match today
alright thanks yugi
@sacred quartz You are on!
are the matches going to get streamed?
Yes check announcements
imagine not having a chinese keyboard
do we just go in??
Yes
right click user and copy id then type <@477132815033434113 >
Just join the game
Ok any schedule?
ok
password?
password?
glow
bracket
Full
Alright fixed thank you
Cool
Good luck T
Xiao Song's in game name means "Hu Tao my beloved" by the way.
least insane genshin player
@still cairn and @hardy mulch vs @gilded spindle and @odd zealot
It's in announcements
lagg team wins (Sry)
CCC player and friend won, yeah~
They won through tactics Spacecat they completely crushed the opponent team -_-
i am big sadge, the two people i wanted didnt join
the short rush tourney it will be
double elimination though ^^
looks like it is a singel match?
ok so everyone gets a second chance, cool
Ok good luck guys.
i love beacons in dom
wish to see more
The tactic I first adapt to! Beacon fix!
ofc they play well ...
Mint made a wonderful 3DC tp ship, similar to what I did with these:
i love these, aestheticly pleasing
This is 3 months old so.
Made in the first week.
Thanks!
far better than all dc in the same direction
Are you able to warp to your spawn? Or do you need a hyperbeacon?
You need a beacon.
Thanks
@serene latch & @snow seal vs @sharp bane & @autumn maple
cyka
#546947839008440330 message
most players signed up for this are pretty experienced in DOM
might be saving for tempest lmao
qawa saving up bluepages 
no the stream running for me
No just me damn it......
hey i've seen shields atleast two matchs!!!!!
You will see more.
@jagged flume Actually ion kitters are one of the meta,
They are great and well accepted.
Was one of the champion ship Hansel used in fact.
(Hansel was the one who made the 4 ion kitter popular)
These ships are counted as "hunt ships", made to have great K-D rate,
However Salephz isn't tactically making a full use of the ship type......
Also because ze Kommandant countered it with proper tactic.
oops I missed the 1st hour of the tournament
Elim champion team playing elim ships in domination. Perfect.
focus on the game
why do you think i'm typing
idk
1m behind
Sorry Qawa
we were winning too ;-;
yeah :/
There there, your performance was great.
Yes that deck rammer was very fun to watch
WAHT
lmao
What happened?
everything died
IDK
Chinese fans reacted well and the nick name of elim-champ team is proven great.
JJeeez
how do you win in Dom?
Mordern magic.
@jagged flume do i join back
QAWA U LUCKY
no I mean like win conditions
when we were wining
LMFAO
:/
3rd and last RE
XD
rules are written much more clear now ...
so scuffed
@serene latch@snow seal
You did great. WP that was. Love from CCC.
Also it turned out not just CCC players got connection issue today.
In spawn it is paid creative.
That is outside the spawn.
Do we both get 750000 or do we need to share
GG
GG,
Finally!
you do not share but the 700K get divided equally
@shy dust & @frank pecan vs @jaunty viper & @peak hinge up next
Wow!
uuuhhh that was exciting!
What a crazy turnaround at the end
definitely a highlight
Waiting in lobby.
be ready for me now π
The game is open and waiting for you