Tournament Chat

[vital spindle]

What is the main time commitment for you in hosting a tourney?

[jagged flume]

About equally for all of the following:

• announcing and setting up rules
• answering questions like right now
• formulating and keeping track of attendants
• running the tournament and stream
• editing after the fact and uploading highlights

Though all an assistant host would do is be there for however long the event date takes

[vital spindle]

Ah alright I see

[desert sky]

GK have made one

[snow seal]

how will that work for people using swarms?

if 1 of their ship setup has 5 ships then it can't be shown..?

[jagged flume]

Then it'll just take longer to switch between the options to show what's up

[snow seal]

why not make a locked forum where you post exterior screenshots

or just a fancy graphic

edit*

[jagged flume]

Because assuming contestants will do more than a minimum amount of work is a silly idea

[snow seal]

locked forum

meaning only you can post

[jagged flume]

You think they'll check?

I don't

[snow seal]

link the channel in #tournament-announcements

i think they'll check..

[jagged flume]

People don't read announcements lol

[snow seal]

they dont?

[jagged flume]

I always put the password there then they just ask here what it is

[vocal cloak]

No they dont

[jagged flume]

Or for the stream

Trust me I know

[vital spindle]

Hmmm I may consider helping out but once school starts I can’t really

[serene latch]

how about when you ping them to get ready, you also post the graphics for each person's loadout?

[snow seal]

OO that's a good idea

[serene latch]

anyway i must go sleep gn

[snow seal]

you could use AI players as temporary ship owners

[jagged flume]

That'd require saving X×3~15 pictures and sorting through all of them at least two dozen times

[snow seal]

2 casters? 2 players, 4 ais

i think u put all 3 full loadouts in the same image tho

[jagged flume]

Yes I do like the temp AIs to display ships, thank you

[surreal pecan]

Top 10 ship idea

^^^

I have actually experimented with a short rail avoider as well.

Certainly not that good.

Or that probably has to do with how I over-armored it, silly me...

It was literally my first ever attempt at an avoider so I had NO idea about the wacky tricks you could employ with them to save yourself.

[upbeat ridge]

slow

[surreal pecan]

Indeed.

Avoiider that can't avoid.

Here's a less ass version because this one actually works.

No ultraheavy rails literally dragging it down.

[hollow socket]

Use less rails then

[white apex]

wait what if i bring 3 traps

o nvm

[white apex]

it gets put into ai placeholders

[short tartan]

if I have traps that arent one connected ship to start how would that work, would they start in extra slots or would they replace the banned ships

[white apex]

they get put into ai players

the ai players hold the loadouts

[short tartan]

oooh

ok

[sleek blade]

or drag the files onto OBS so they show on stream

[surreal pecan]

No damage?

[hollow socket]

Then use more rails

[sweet saffron]

why is it noxious

[snow seal]

because the audience of the stream also have to look at it

[sweet saffron]

so it harms health

[snow seal]

hurts ur eyes

[white apex]

also hurts bitrate

[vocal cloak]

#ships message an example

[vivid ore]

where can i find info about june tournament - the event entry is not there or gone ... ??

[jagged flume]

#announcements #announcements message

I used to consistently get full on migraines after looking at cancer paint, which are exceedingly painful

[sweet saffron]

if anything is consistent about the tourney rules it’s that they aren’t posted where you expect them to be

[snow seal]

1687028400 and 1687633200 @jagged flume

[jagged flume]

Merci

[trim kestrel]

From the few I've hosted
Setup/Rules: 2-4 hrs (depends on how different the format is)
Participants check in/bracket: 1 hr (before tournament)
Answering questions: less than hour tbh and I'd mainly just do it during down time when nothing else is going on
Running tournament and stream: 6-10 hrs (greatly dependent on format and participation size)
editing: too long I don't do it but if I gave it a shot I would imagine it taking around 4 hours at worst

So in total you could probably throw a quick standard one together with about 10 hours of work

[vivid ore]

"different weapons" rule

are missiles and nuke missiles different weapons?
are different missile loadouts considered differnet weapons?

are the three differnt loadouts an option or requirement? (becasue obv if you bring only one loadout you cannot be banned.)

[snow seal]

what if u are allowed as many bans as one less than the amount of ships u brought

so u can bring 2 ships but u only get 1 ban

nvm dumb idea

[vivid ore]

i think you can ban one of the three laodouts not individual ships in a loadout

[snow seal]

using loadout and ship interchangably

btw

[vivid ore]

the differnt weapons rule is slight headache - becasue waht if you have weapon combos?

my barges have all missile types, deck canons FLAK and PD - if that would mean i cannot bring any of these weapons in another laodout that would make it very very hard.

[sweet saffron]

check this out

in reply to the question of missile types @vivid ore

[vivid ore]

got it

but i use ALL missile types on one ship - so another loadout is not allowed to use any missiles?

Ok i f you canont use the same weapon type on two differnt ships we will see a lot of single weapon spam builds.

[sweet saffron]

idk if it applies to ships in different load outs or not

[vivid ore]

I get that this should make the event more intersting but it just makes it more complicated ...

[vivid ore]

obv it applies to loadouts - otehrwise none would build a laodout with different ships - becasue again too complicated

Will rly have to think about if this rule is too restrictive to join.

especially I rly like EMP missiles as sidekick on most differnt ship types. If this ruel forbids having "siedkick" weapons it makes it more boring.

[sweet saffron]

I currently have no idea what a load out is meant to be as it seems it doesn’t actually matter if you shove five ships into one load out and only one in each of the other two

[vivid ore]

"A loadout is a selection of 1-5 ships. Each loadout must use different weapons."

theoretically you could use all weapons in one laodout then the other ships are allowed to use none.

A Rule that does not encourage but forbids weapon combos. Rly?

[snow seal]

the rule is in place so that someone doesn't bring 3 missile orbiters

[vocal cloak]

there is 14 weapons you can mix and match

[snow seal]

if you have a clever way to ensure this while allowing weapon combinations, please share i think it would be VERY helpful for this and maybe future tourneys @vivid ore

[vocal cloak]

removing the less often used weapons and defenses like small lasers, flaks mines and pds that is 10

[snow seal]

pd is used a lot

saris has a ship with small lasers...

[vivid ore]

guess then i have to remove EMP from all but one of my candidates ...

[vocal cloak]

"less often used"

[snow seal]

hmm at this point why dont we do like ftd style tourneys where the ruleset is very different between tourneys

like next one could be "energy weapons only"

ion kite heaven nvm

[vocal cloak]

u can get 3ish weapons per loadout

with 2 of them can have activedefense with pds and flaks

[vivid ore]

i get that it is hard to outrule the meta.
but thgis rule forbids many non meta builds becasue it practiacally forbids the most common weapon mixes.

[jagged flume]

The idea is to make you use different ships instead of three barges with flak

[vivid ore]

I fear many players will not invvest the time to build three differnt ships (or loaudouts) that can only be used for one toruney and its exact rules.

[jagged flume]

Oh no you have to build spaceships for the space ship building game!

[vivid ore]

so far i have two completely differnt candidates (not telling which)
and i cannot even bring a barge at all because the other ships would get banned so the barge can be beat becawsue it is an average ship type at best...

[jagged flume]

Yeah, not sure what to do about being unable to bring a subpar ship archetype because it's bad

Or what you would want me to do

[vivid ore]

trying to think what could happen in worst case scenario: only three meta ships will be brought - a morbiter, an ion somthing, a rail somthing.

[vocal cloak]

and u get to ban 2 of them

[vivid ore]

Also funny you will have to pilot your worst ship because banning. 🙃

[vocal cloak]

i mean thats just how it is in most games with bans?

[upbeat ridge]

why not make an all-encompassing set?

[vivid ore]

well best case scenario then: i bring the nuke barge, it does not get banned because ppl think it is weak, and then i ban the right ships and get an opponend with one of the few further down the food chain ships of a barge ...

[vivid ore]

becasue then you are not allowed to use any weapons in another set

[upbeat ridge]

uh- i meant a set of ships that can deal with anything decently well

[vivid ore]

but you have to do three differnt sets and cannot choose wich one you will pilot - but your opponent does.

perhaps it is more about building ships that look bad but are good so they do not get banned 😅

A bad ship tourney, because the good ones get banned - may the worst ship win! 😆

[jagged flume]

Just build not one, not two, but perhaps three entire good ships

[vivid ore]

and with a completely differnt weapon sets, ofc we can do that ... 🧑‍🔬

[jagged flume]

Deck cannon rammer, ion cruiser, missile orbiter, nuke barge, blaster and cannon wall (avoider or orbiter), tb rail. Five completely different ideas that are extremely strong when well made

[vivid ore]

So far i have two of the above ... i hardly have time the week before tourney ... then again im addicted ...

[vivid ore]

Ok enough damage criticism done.

Hope i can make it because my schedule is crazy next week. I might sign up late because i do not want to sign up early and then cancel it.

[errant forge]

No time on june 24, have to resign this time

Good luck everyone

[jagged flume]

Resign? You never signed up

[upbeat ridge]

woah actual saris Ws

[sharp bane]

you know it would be hilariously based to have, like

2 actual meta ships

and then just one 500k shieldless boost laser fighter

and then win with it by being a machine at piloting

[upbeat ridge]

oem comeback

[white apex]

yeah but usually i just have 8-20 on the side/back which is usually negligible impact

[sleek blade]

i hardly have time the week before tourney ... then again im addicted ...
this lol

[sleek blade]

but what if you wanted to bring 3 kiters

railkite, missilekite, ionkite 🫣

[white apex]

then u r become cringe

also if someone brings wall orbi avoider anything else u just lose

[sleek blade]

I wish I had any ship

[white apex]

i can now barely attend bc i have 1 ship w/ no pd or eb

o wait nvm my sl trap has pd

[surreal pecan]

Only ionkite.

[errant forge]

Where is sariswinterwisp

[snow seal]

next week

[serene latch]

where is saris summer wisp

[vivid ore]

So we are not allowed to have PD on every ship becasue it is a weapon technically?
Personally would allow PD, EMP Missiles & Electro bolters to be on every ship - becasue they are defense or tools more then weapons that pose a real spam thread.

[snow seal]

saris already said they can't be on multiple ships

[vivid ore]

TY, so weapon is everythign that can potentially damage parts - Tractor beams?

[sweet saffron]

TB is unlimited

last I heard

[white apex]

tb and ion prisms r unlimited

[vivid ore]

but ion beams are not obv - so you can decorate your ship with prisms ... ok

[white apex]

more for rail protection

[surreal pecan]

He has to replace Sariswinterwisp for this season.

Oh wait he is Sarissplendidwisp.

Very mouthful.

[serene latch]

saris you should change your username by the season lol

[jagged flume]

If a tile can deal damage by itself it's a weapon. Tractor beams and prisms can't, so they’re not

[surreal pecan]

Wait, so only one ship at a time has rights to use a reactor?

[serene latch]

i just realised i can go for triple orbiter wall.. cannons, large cannons, and laser blasters..

[surreal pecan]

Nuke orbiter wall.

What that exists.

I've seen quite a few.

Nightlord has one.

Pine has one with TB

[surreal pecan]

Ion orbiter wall too actually.

[serene latch]

mines

[surreal pecan]

And short rail orbiter wall.

M I N I N G L A S E R O R B I T E R W A L L

[serene latch]

flak

[desert sky]

i can't bring triple avoider >///<

[serene latch]

laser, ion, nuke

3 avoiders

[desert sky]

ion is pathetic

[serene latch]

cannon avoider..?

those are a thing

[jagged flume]

😆

[serene latch]

rail avoider

idk there's def more than 3 avoiders though

[desert sky]

but viable ones?

eee i think you'rr right

[sweet saffron]

[desert sky]

on avoider*

complexe ion core my beloved <3

[white apex]

just use sl

eb only on one of them woudl cause problems though

[serene latch]

could do a thing like eidolon shield variant where it's just big laser, then another one w/ sl + eb

nuke avoider is good as well

@desert sky you can definitely go 3 avoiders if you so wanted lol

[vital spindle]

He should

SarisSummerWasp

Makes sense to me

[hollow socket]

Perhaps by the month

[snow seal]

YOU CAN BUY UNLIMITED RAILGUN ACCELERATORS

[raven fern]

Say what?

[snow seal]

they dont deal damage on their own

it's within the rules to have railgun accelerators on all of your ships

[serene latch]

what about launchers

wait you can have every part of a railgun

just separate

right?

[sweet saffron]

so only one of your ships can have explosive charges

[serene latch]

wait that's not fair...

[jagged flume]

I guess explosive charges are one of the exceptions

[snow seal]

but why stop at only 1 exception

[short tartan]

what happens if you make a weaponless ship

[fast oracle]

another exception is storages full of sulphur

[fast oracle]

they're called sumo ships

not very good

i guess you can bring 3 sumo ships

if you want

[short tartan]

a reactor with thrusters and shields is a sumo ship?

[fast oracle]

no that's a dumb ship

[short tartan]

Tru

I think I have seen some stuff like it using the reactor as a bomb

[upbeat ridge]

brought one in a tournament before, slowk rightfully clowned me

[autumn maple]

canon trap avoider.. i only remember the pain

[upbeat ridge]

my apolocheese

[slow chasm]

Is this meant to be loadouts?

Janky ah format on mobile

[jagged flume]

Yes, sorry

Almost always people use singular ships

[slow chasm]

Ok thank god

I thought I was tripping

I was so confused

[chilly barn]

9 ppl signed up so far

[errant forge]

I damn really would like to play it

[fast oracle]

i couldn't participate but sudden change of plans means I can now

so yay

[desert sky]

yay

[fast oracle]

now I don't have good ships for the tournament so I guess I'll just bring 1 suboptimal ship and lose

[desert sky]

ow

[fast oracle]

I'm expecting everyone to have morbi tb rail and something else probably with pd

[desert sky]

we'ill see

[chilly barn]

🙂

I don't have time for a full analysis unfortunately:(

I'd love to be able to see what the mathumatically optimal ships are

[short tartan]

I want to join but I'm pretty sure I would get demolished

[sharp bane]

pretty sure you need to have 3 ships each with different weapons

otherwise the ban system doesn't work

or did saris figure something out for it? like letting the player with 3 ships choose any of them?

[fast oracle]

i have 2 good ships and 1 suboptimal

[sharp bane]

oh ok

[young jacinth]

Its not about winning its about having fun

[short tartan]

true!

[young jacinth]

Just kidding, we have price money this time

[short tartan]

but I don't have fun if I can't put up a decent fight

[chilly barn]

I'm learning abount neural networks for my internship and hanging a ship picker is a really easy training model for one so I'm probably gonna make a neural network to do the picking of ships for me

Hopefully, if I get good enough

[surreal pecan]

You are the kind of person who'd spend years studying quantum physics just to have a quantum computer brew up coffee for them.

[chilly barn]

Lol

Quantum physics is a bit hard

But I'm learning neural networks for another thing and it's probably easier to train this one then the one I actually need to train so it's good training you know

[young jacinth]

Thats cool but I feel like its overkill lol

[chilly barn]

Yeah it's actually better to just go though all possible solutions lol

I might just train it against that, which would be the actually optimal solution

[serene latch]

just found out i can't even join the tournament :(

got a dentist appointment

i spent so much time theory crafting too

[spring fable]

i dont have 3 "good ships" (meta ships) so i am not interested this time around

maybe if we go back to the old setup ill join the next tourney

[chilly barn]

That sucks 😦

[snow seal]

dm me the strats

[white apex]

me too lol

[sleek blade]

dm me ships lol

[chilly barn]

DM me everything

[surreal pecan]

Do you really want Kawa to DM you the entire Internet archives, link of every single website and all other piece information stored on the entirety of internet?

[chilly barn]

Yes please

[serene latch]

check dms

WAIT I JUST HAD AN IDEA

@jagged flume can i get ai to play for me while i'm absent

[desert sky]

that would be faboulous

[jagged flume]

I'm gonna wager a no on that one

[chilly barn]

What if he trains an ai that does all the discord interactions and signs up for himself

And also joins lobbies for himself and also picks for him and also plays for him

[serene latch]

did something change between the last tournament and this one? i recall you allowed someone to let ai take over for their ships when they asked

[jagged flume]

That person ended up piloting their ship, and there wasn't a cash prize allowing rule flexibility, and an AI can't ban an opponent's ships, and do you really even slightly expect an AI controlled ship to win

[fast oracle]

make an auto hot key script that wins qawa

[serene latch]

guess i'll forfeit the tournament then. hope i can enter another one with a ban system, im very intrigued by it

[errant forge]

Sad i wanted to be your ai

[chilly barn]

Lol

[chilly barn]

AI can definitely ban opponent ships
I'm going to be using an AI to help me with my choices

[white apex]

brb going to create uncategorizable archetypes

[chilly barn]

lol

[stone zephyr]

Im really sad that I cant make this tourney

seems like a really intersting design challenge

[jagged flume]

Always next one

[stone zephyr]

hopefully

Im going to be out of the country for almost all of july so Im hoping that it lands on the right dates

[vivid ore]

*Cannot enter tourney this month. *
Reason: Date and Time. My schedule does not allow it.

[jagged flume]

Would a change of time to be exactly twelve hours later assist at all?

[stone zephyr]

not for me

[jagged flume]

It'd be for next tournament

[stone zephyr]

ah

[vivid ore]

12 or better 24 hours later would help me because that would both be Sunday.

Maybe more ppl are free on a Sunday?

[jagged flume]

In my personal experience sunday is typically more booked because church

[vivid ore]

poor religion ppl have to sacrifice themselves

Guess there are more options for things to attend in spring-summertime, so you have to make decisions.

11 ppl already entered, thats a good number to have a fun time!
I do not want to stir things up here - just mentioning i cannot go.

[jagged flume]

I want everyone to have a good time be capable of attending, so making it more possible for those who miss this event to join the next one is important to me

[stone zephyr]

its not anything to do with the time for me, that time normally works but unfortunately I have something on those days

[errant forge]

Thats 7am for europe

[vocal cloak]

Isnt that dead midnight for NA and you saris

[serene latch]

it is

it'd be 3am for eastern US

[bright anchor]

is tournament easy to win?

[short tartan]

nope

[chilly barn]

Yeah Itd be 2 am for me, would not show up to the tourney

[gilded spindle]

You can gauge the difficulty from previous tournaments

But as far as I'd say, it's definitely not easy

[chilly barn]

No paragons in tourney and very few experts for now in tourney

[chilly barn]

To win, you need to be good enough to win most of your games in pvp lobbies.
If you haven't played pvp before, you likey won't get far.
However, it's still an interesting experience and imo still worth competing in even if you don't get far.

[chilly barn]

Yeah there are two experts signed up right now
A few other people who signed up are at expert level rn too imo

[surreal pecan]

Absolutely not If you're Slowking then probably yes.

[surreal pecan]

Isn't it weird that in the recent times no Paragon (aside from 0neye) has won the tourney?

[chilly barn]

Maybe it's because no paragons besides oneye and saris play the game

[desert sky]

and even

[desert sky]

play pvp*
vilda is paragon too but paint ships

[upbeat ridge]

vilda is still a paragon

there;s no telling how hard they're gonna win than hard

[surreal pecan]

Sad truth.

I don't even know who Equalizer is but they seem like a big deal.

Or they did.

And also there is Arch duke.

[bright anchor]

who is paragons?

game dev?

[chilly barn]

Role ranks in exelcior

It's the unofficial competitive cosmoteer server

#links message

[surreal pecan]

Just an excelsior role (sister server of Cosmo basically)

[chilly barn]

Now its 4 experts 🙂

[snow seal]

i count as two i have qawa's uhhh

@serene latch what do i have

the spirit of qawa possesses me

the spirits of the forest awaken

[surreal pecan]

Nice, now that I've signed up, it's time to seriously think of what to send to Schlaris Splender Wasp.

[jagged flume]

16 sign ups exactly. Neat

[hollow socket]

Let us make that 17

[surreal pecan]

I signed up right now for this purpose, 16 is a nice multiple of 2 number.

[hollow socket]

Now all I have to do is wait until the event begins

As a movie character once said; " Victory has defeated you "

[bright anchor]

I have signed up too and hope its not a problem then

[hollow socket]

It's 18 total

[jagged flume]

You're fine

[hollow socket]

Saris, are the ships I sent permitted for use, just asking incase I need to change anything

[snow seal]

@wooden crystal ? u joining?

[wooden crystal]

Oh yeah

In a bit

[bright anchor]

So the rules say i can't bring two ships with the same weapon? But what about Point Defence? That's in "Defences" category. So if stuff like Armor, Shields and Fire Extinguishers are allowed to use more than once, then Point Defence should be allowed too.

[sweet saffron]

it's considered a weapon because it can attack

shields and FE can not

[bright anchor]

You can't even target it

[jagged flume]

Yeah they're fine

[sweet saffron]

that doesn't seem to matter

[bright anchor]

Alright, it seems strict rules here

[sweet saffron]

also is the list of weapons vs non-weapons in the doc and I'm blind or what

[fast oracle]

does that mean i can't bring 2 ships with mining lasers?????????

[jagged flume]

Ye

[fast oracle]

:(

[hollow socket]

Will you participate Saris?

[bright anchor]

How tough front armor should be?

[hollow socket]

Tougher than the shell of a piece of fruit I'd say

[jagged flume]

I won't be participating in official events indefinitely due to being the official host

If you want to see me in a tournament you'd have to host it yourself

[surreal pecan]

Damn, one guy participating on 5AM?!

@bright anchor Respect.

[young jacinth]

Impossible to say, it depends on ship type

Some have all the armor some have none

[upbeat ridge]

i'll try not to sleep this time <3

[sharp bane]

I wish I could host but my living arrangement doesn't permit it, all 5 of us live in the same room

maybe when I'm in student accomodations in a few months

assuming all my time isn't spent on uni.

[errant forge]

You live in warsaw?

[jagged flume]

As much as I appreciate it you better prioritize schooling and life over cosmoteer

[sleek blade]

Now the question is can I make 3 ships in one day

[sharp bane]

for now

[surreal pecan]

Hmm? I thought Eno was Ukrainian.

[surreal pecan]

OOOOOOH That makes a lot of sense...

[desert sky]

21 lads!!
dats niceee

[vivid ore]

ok i will sign up for tourney too - with a 90% cahnce i can actually make it - ships uploaded tomorrow

[jagged flume]

Lot of last minute sign ups, seems as though nearly half of em have been in the past dayish of time

[desert sky]

that was expected ngl

[past fiber]

How many hours before the tournament can I register?

[desert sky]

well see

[jagged flume]

I want to establish a precedent of having a stricter cut off time so I'm not scrambling for a bracket. As such, 24 hours before the check in period, so you have six hours from now to check in

[past fiber]

I see, thank you

[vivid ore]

u mean "6 hours from now to enter/sign up/register"?

[odd zealot]

I wonder how many ppl send ther ships to Saris.

[vivid ore]

i will send ships tomorrow - no way i make it today

rly struggling becasue i have two ships with a lot of pd - hard to decide which one keeps it.

[odd zealot]

Oh yeah i had something simmiral.

I had made 7 ships for the tournament.

[jagged flume]

Yes

[hollow socket]

Looking like a full tournament, might even reach 24 sign ups

[chilly barn]

Ya i still need to think, same with a lot of ppl I think

[surreal pecan]

23 people, nice.

[surreal pecan]

You can only have max of 3 y'know?

[odd zealot]

I picked my 3.

[surreal pecan]

Good.

Now 24

Seein' some new faces too, neat.

[chilly barn]

I'm kinda worried about loosing early since it's a best of 1

And still have yet to pick my last ship

If only I was a good avoider pilot

[jagged flume]

Single elimination bo3

Ha! As if, @icy oxide

At the very least did you do anything to improve your ability to connect?

Your silence does not instill me with great confidence

[snow seal]

saris have u gotten any sleep?

[jagged flume]

Strange question

[snow seal]

gonna assume the answer is no

[jagged flume]

That would be correct

[icy oxide]

I was afk. Yea, I was did some shenanigans

[jagged flume]

Lets hope it does literally anything so that you aren't impersonating a glacier again

[hollow socket]

25 nice

[snow seal]

25?

looks like 24

[jagged flume]

It's 25 unless someone deleted their entry

[snow seal]

oh the info message doesn't count as a message

[sleek blade]

finally it's too late, and I do not need to worry about it anymore

[jagged flume]

@chilly barn
@sharp bane
@dry wren
@past fiber
@zinc dust
@icy oxide
@upbeat ridge
@bright anchor
@bright anchor
@raven socket
@surreal pecan
@gilded spindle
@forest cedar

I don't have ships from any of you!

[sharp bane]

building :D

[snow seal]

you have less than 24 hours

[chilly barn]

Mmmmmmm
Do you want me to run morbi????
Ican I guess

[vivid ore]

don't worry my ships are 50% finished 😜

[sweet saffron]

to live

[tough prism]

Alas, I will not be able to play on tournament day any longer

And thus, must retract my eloquently typed message

[snow seal]

put the entire message in double tildas

[upbeat ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-gif-26204683

[vivid ore]

i was much quicker creating toruney loadouts then i thought i would be ...

[surreal pecan]

I've decided for the 2 out of 3 ships already. I can't for the life of me decide which ion to grab. Well y'see all my ions are niche and specialized to accomplish one specific goal, so almost none of them are versatile unfortunately.

[surreal pecan]

I am not a robot. I'm a humannik. Nor do I have an empire.

[white apex]

turns out all of my current ships r trash and i need to remake all of them D:

[chilly barn]

Or you could just like lose if you wanted to

[upbeat ridge]

what is this gonna do to the tourney #announcements message

[jagged flume]

Completely ignore it and hope Walt doesn't release it before the second date

[upbeat ridge]

you better hope so

[white apex]

nooo let it go through i'm using flak

[chilly barn]

He plans to release it on friday

[jagged flume]

:agony:

[chilly barn]

@jagged flume if update gets released before day 2 of tourney, will we play with new update?

Will we have resource loot drops on or off for tourney?

[jagged flume]

Yes and then off

[chilly barn]

Okay

[vivid ore]

tho resource collecter and construction is not needed in this tourney ...
but i wonder if crew repair will be possible in Elimination?

[upbeat ridge]

ovary

[chilly barn]

Autocorrect is very funny sometimes

[chilly barn]

Bit of discussion in exelcior

[white apex]

construction is, u can bypass weapon limit

[short tartan]

where?

[chilly barn]

#546229904488923145 message

I don't think anyone commented on crew

[white apex]

m rebuilding all of my ships (again)

hasidjkfdlasdjok

i had to sacrifice the pd for another ship :(

sareeeeeees why is pd weaponnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

actually ik why but still

[jagged flume]

Bro what the heck lotta people still missing ships

[desert sky]

our beloved walt who do update in tourney dates 🙏

[odd zealot]

They will sent them at the last moment?

[jagged flume]

Presumably, but it sets meon edge

[serene latch]

i can submit ships for them

[snow seal]

large shields?

[hollow socket]

The deadline draws near

[fast oracle]

everyone procastinating on sending ships

[hollow socket]

Might be a very small tournament if this continues

[surreal pecan]

I still can't decide what the ion to use.

I have to choose one out of 50 trillion.

[fast oracle]

that last one with I think 20 ions a lot of shields and 8 ers was very cool

[surreal pecan]

Thanks a lot.

But now I am making an EVEN MORE BIZARRE ion.

Potentially to be able to counter most other ions.

[fast oracle]

we'll see

[surreal pecan]

A better version of this, if you will.

[fast oracle]

ion kite moment

24 into 3 is a lot

[surreal pecan]

Yeah it was a very experimental ship.

I went for only 3 outputs because I wanted 8 shields to overlap

I didn't even capitalize on that and the outer shields have cut coverage.

Actually this is the ship I tanked your 16 rail alpha rail with.

Never underestimate how unimaginably tanky 10 shields are.

[vivid ore]

what is the "weapon limit"?

[raven socket]

just sent mine to you

[gilded spindle]

I've tried and failed to find eidolon shield varient

[raven fern]

This?
#546333653605679104 message

[gilded spindle]

That's it, thank you

[surreal pecan]

:OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Right.

You can stock up on just enough resources to build yourself a DIY ioncore mid-game.

[wooden crystal]

when will tournament check in start? @jagged flume

[raven fern]

Should be at <t:1687028400:T>

[surreal pecan]

23pm

I mean 11pm

Lol

23 o' clock

[jagged flume]

Check in and submission cut off in two hours

Event start an hour after that

[wooden crystal]

thanks

[bright anchor]

Good Luck everyone!

[surreal pecan]

Naww

[surreal pecan]

Almost done with the new ion.

If I don't do it in time I'll just send that one ion orbi I made the day before yesterday.

[hollow socket]

very close to the tournament

[jagged flume]

You've got half an hour to finish it

[short tartan]

wait tourney starts today?

noice

[snow seal]

bruh

[snow seal]

u still waiting for these ppl?

[jagged flume]

Not nearly as many

[snow seal]

probably worth pinging the remaining

[hollow socket]

i am already here

[chilly barn]

cutoff in 15 mins?

[forest cedar]

Where do i check in

[snow seal]

#1114722382049988669 in 13 mins

u'll get a ping

[hollow socket]

9

[white apex]

i love finding multiple issues w/ my logistics 5 min before the cutoff

[jagged flume]

2 now

[white apex]

jisodkldfghdjogk

[quartz summit]

epic

go full speed air

[serene latch]

time up..?

[quartz summit]

yes

[white apex]

just going to use the broken version :(

[hollow socket]

hmmm

it is tournament time

[snow seal]

i also cant check in but i will in 20 mins ohboy

[quartz summit]

in one hour

[hollow socket]

yes

but the ping#

[upbeat ridge]

morning

[hollow socket]

where is it

[snow seal]

why didnt u delete przy's message

[serene latch]

^this is DISCRIMJNATION

[kindred arrow]

gl to all contestants, may the best win^^

[white apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/714167537214160927.webp?size=48&name=panik&quality=lossless

[jagged flume]

I did it's gone

[gilded spindle]

oh no

[surreal pecan]

Yes! Good luck to ya'll.

[bright anchor]

do u guys tink i have chance in turnament?

since i play for a lot of time but my friend tell me about tournament

so i joined and try to play

im new too

[desert sky]

you'd be very lucky as i never see ya in lobby

[bright anchor]

good luck to you!

yea i only play with friend

but career is same as pvp right

my frend tel me

and he experienced playe

[desert sky]

don't put your arm down thought
fight to death!1!1!!!1

[bright anchor]

like gladiators

[desert sky]

ah-- you might have no chances if ya think that

[bright anchor]

yea but my friend tell me

he good

[snow seal]

good at pvp or good at career

[bright anchor]

uh

idk

he say he beat local players

he beate wojtek16259\

he say he god

[snow seal]

who-

[bright anchor]

idk he teld me

hes friend of friend

[snow seal]

uh... dunno

[bright anchor]

yes but he tell me he good

[hollow socket]

who?

also, career pve is not multiplayer pvp

[bright anchor]

wojtek16259, i recognize him

[hollow socket]

pvp is much harder

[jagged flume]

Chances of winning your first tournament are low but nit impossible. None of us have any idea wgo that guy you mentioned is

Past Marius I guess

[bright anchor]

Idk

who is marius

ohhhh

he u know wojtek???

i saw him once

what he say

he said he best cosmoteer player in the hood

[hollow socket]

that would be a paragon

[bright anchor]

idk but he got paragon when he buy something

in froggie shop

[hollow socket]

?

[chilly barn]

huh

[bright anchor]

paragon

when u buy in shop

[fast oracle]

what

[bright anchor]

u get paragon from cashier

[snow seal]

there's no shop

[hollow socket]

'paragon' is a title the best players earned

[odd zealot]

c o n f u z i o n

[icy oxide]

Imagine buy a paragon in shop

[fast oracle]

i want to buy a paragon

[bright anchor]

ok

go to froggie shop

[hollow socket]

i'll buy a bit of oneye in the nearest cornerstore

[desert sky]

sadly it cost monyeu

[bright anchor]

yes but can buy

mentos

and get paragon

[fast oracle]

do we have the brackets now?

[bright anchor]

u can buy bracket to get paragon too

[fast oracle]

i hope majster surprises us all and wins

[bright anchor]

or carry water in bracket

[hollow socket]

bucket, not bracket

a bucket holds water, a bracket is '' [ ''

[bright anchor]

botle water

[desert sky]

unfortunately i think that your friends ego who's near divine

[bright anchor]

idk he always say

good player need good think

[serene latch]

@jagged flume soo.. are you up for sale

[bright anchor]

froggie shop

go to froggie shop for paragon

bro

[odd zealot]

W żabce?

[jagged flume]

Yes I'm more than willing to paint ships for you

[bright anchor]

yes

[fast oracle]

who was your friend?

[bright anchor]

oh saris u want froggie shop paragon for paint

he name was i tink ciastkowybob22135

ye he but random numberation

[desert sky]

you think? isin't that supposed to be your friend
poor "friend"

[fast oracle]

xd

[bright anchor]

NOO

i mean

ciastkowybob

but random number

i dont knou number

[raven socket]

does the tournament start at 8?

[wind blaze]

UTC yes

So 3pm est

[fast oracle]

in 30 minutes

[white apex]

@chilly barn pwo

[hollow socket]

15 minutes

[fast oracle]

i really hope I'm not first

[hollow socket]

we should all take this time to prepare accordingly

[fast oracle]

do we know order yet?

[wind blaze]

No

[hollow socket]

no brackets are so far released

[wind blaze]

Saris doesn't make the brackets until after the checkin is over.

[dry wren]

im here

[hollow socket]

hm

[jagged flume]

I may have to take slightly longer SINCE EVERYONE SUBMITTED THEIR SHIPS LAST MINUTE

[sharp bane]

sorry, building and testing ships is hard :(

[odd zealot]

I didnt.

[vocal cloak]

welp new rule on next tourney perhaps

[hollow socket]

i submitted my ships when i joined

[dry wren]

same

[jagged flume]

You guys are the rare exceptions and I love all of you

[brisk wigeon]

sry xD

[fast oracle]

poor saris dealing with procastination

[hollow socket]

We as participants need to step it up

[jagged flume]

Nah I'll just be harsher with the rules

[hollow socket]

That works too

[gilded spindle]

have it so the ship needs to be submitted 24 hours before the check in

[dry wren]

i love you too man

[hollow socket]

Have it so that everything is done by a deadline set 48 hours before the first match,

[fast oracle]

yeah, 1 day earlier looks fine

24h is enough time

[hollow socket]

I guess

[surreal pecan]

Could we already see how the bracket looks like?

I sure hope I'm not first because I need to go for ~10 minutes

[hazy brook]

i wish i knew you had to sign up early

[hollow socket]

What could be beneficial is announcing the first match, and then do the rest of the bracket

What I'd like to see this tournament is a kite that wins

[surreal pecan]

I brought a pseudo ion kite so we'll see 👀

[jagged flume]

People give me huge levels of shit if there isn't a bracket to look at, no way in hell am I starting this without one lmao

[wind blaze]

I think he means to just give the first two a heads up

[hollow socket]

indeed

[wind blaze]

So the bracket would still be done before play

[wooden crystal]

im fine waiting a bit for a bracket lets be patient guys

[hollow socket]

the bracket may not be finished, but at least the first players can prepare

[surreal pecan]

I gave you no shit I asked you if I'll be allowed to take an actual shit or not, I need to run to toilet.

[bright anchor]

How he bought Paragon in shop?

[hollow socket]

he purchased 1/5th of Equalizer

he said frog shop

[surreal pecan]

How could you purchase equalizer they doesn't even play the game anymore.

[hollow socket]

what do you mean? it's currently 40% off at your nearest cornerstore

[icy oxide]

Only 666$ now

[raven socket]

do you have to join the voice chat?

[snow seal]

nah

we just are

[raven socket]

epic

[quartz summit]

lmao

[desert sky]

lmfao

[surreal pecan]

Price to pay to bring DA GOD OF COSMO

[hollow socket]

man it has been a while of waiting

[upbeat ridge]

omw to hijack you

[raven fern]

The real MVP gamer

[desert sky]

sairs shoulda hav e put a time limit before tourney for ship submittion like he done for sign-ups

saris*

[quartz summit]

anthrax v cgt?

[hollow socket]

He is cheating, using the cat against us

an ultimate weapon

[raven fern]

We don't stand a chance

[quartz summit]

Indeed

the cat is too good

[desert sky]

will yare win?

[surreal pecan]

Who is this adorable creature.

[chilly barn]

cat who makes me sneeze 😦

[chilly barn]

you already know where I live.....

(kind of)

[fast oracle]

my ship is on the thumbnail :D

[upbeat ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594672992353517639/1104009962897817620/creature-1.gif

[fast oracle]

https://www.youtube.com/live/QfEOOw792cU?feature=share

[sharp bane]

I love cat typing!

[chilly barn]

nice!

[jagged flume]

@snow seal vs @dry wren are first up

[surreal pecan]

Guess who got the thumbnail.

I am going to fight spade car?

Nice.

[jagged flume]

I can see Finn in the voice chat

[dry wren]

yeah?

[jagged flume]

Join! You're up!

[dry wren]

whats the password

[jagged flume]

neon

[dry wren]

my youtube dont work

[jagged flume]

Don't watch youtube it's not gonna help you

[hollow socket]

brackets?

[chilly barn]

@past fiber is this a tb rail?

[jagged flume]

No one reads announcements :sobbing:

[hollow socket]

oh, i see them now

[vivid ore]

i thought one "Lodout" Can have up to 5 Ships?
How would banning work then??
@jagged flume

[bright anchor]

Yes

[past fiber]

yes

[chilly barn]

ok thanks 🙂

good luck btw

I'm not too confident in myself but have yet to plug everyhting into hseet

sheet

[past fiber]

thanks

[fast oracle]

saleph disconnecting front armor of an ion!!!!!!!

YAY

AIM

[hollow socket]

stream buffering

[wooden crystal]

stream ded

[fast oracle]

ded

[wooden crystal]

@jagged flume

[desert sky]

oh so that not just me

[odd zealot]

Stream ded.

[hollow socket]

rip stream

[upbeat ridge]

first stream de`th o the tourney

[gilded spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-winston-winston-overwatch-monkey-play-of-the-game-gif-21393362

[quartz summit]

stream dead

[white apex]

they get put into ai players

[surreal pecan]

Stream eneded 67 seconds ago?

[snow seal]

@jagged flume

[odd zealot]

Saris is ded?

[hazy brook]

stream ded

[snow seal]

yeah i think saris is having internet issues i thinkkkk

[odd zealot]

This should be a remach.

[upbeat ridge]

in classic cosmoteer fashion

[wind ermine]

restart stream and it should be back up

[jagged flume]

The eight hours leading up to this had no issues!

[hollow socket]

shoulda done the tournament 8 hours ago

[wooden crystal]

my internet is the greatest

(this is like golf, right?)

[upbeat ridge]

match over

we need a detailed report

[white apex]

huh

[jagged flume]

https://youtube.com/live/Qqv3_ZsJxIU?feature=share

[quartz summit]

stream back yay

[surreal pecan]

Yay

[wind ermine]

this round should be a RM with the same ships, no?

[quartz summit]

get cut in half lmao

it is

[jagged flume]

It was with the same ships

[wind ermine]

oh nvm my stream was way behind

[fast oracle]

i love that ion from saleph :3

[quartz summit]

same

as I previously said:
IOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fast oracle]

i need to see it against a morbi

[jagged flume]

@raven fern vs @icy oxide up next

[wooden crystal]

@zinc dust

hey bud how long have you had this game?

[white apex]

@jagged flume i won't be available for a bit but i should be back in time

can u skip my match?

[zinc dust]

mh, since last november?!

but play pvp since january

[gilded spindle]

looks like morbiter won again

[quartz summit]

when

last tournament yes

oof

[chilly barn]

The monster has come back again

[wooden crystal]

hug it for me

[quartz summit]

kiss it for me

[surreal pecan]

Pat him for me.

Ot is it pet?

Yeah pet.

[chilly barn]

hes very monster
I sneeze a lot when he comes 😦

[surreal pecan]

Allergy?

[white apex]

@jagged flume i'm baaaack

[zinc dust]

is there any document where I can see the brackets?

[chilly barn]

#tournament-announcements

[zinc dust]

thanks a lot!

[chilly barn]

Np

[jagged flume]

@naive lion vs @bright anchor are up next

[quartz summit]

GG

[fast oracle]

hmm

[quartz summit]

purple vs black

who will win

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HALF THE SHIP WON

[vivid ore]

YaY GG!

[quartz summit]

rematch

[jagged flume]

@fast oracle vs @young jacinth

[fast oracle]

omw

[vivid ore]

superb piloting @naive lion

[quartz summit]

GG

[bright anchor]

Well Played @naive lion !

[surreal pecan]

Bracket where again?

[quartz summit]

You played well @bright anchor

[odd zealot]

https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/530901882219003908

[hollow socket]

well done valiant knight

[naive lion]

was hardfought

[sharp bane]

yeah that first match was so close!

[surreal pecan]

Thanks.

[fast oracle]

password?

[wind blaze]

neon

[fast oracle]

k

[icy oxide]

Seems that speed is meta

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jagged flume]

Speed is never not going to be effective

I think that if the ships had been lined up better one could have cut through the shields with the nukes though

[quartz summit]

epic

white thingy

[hollow socket]

don't mine that

just the egde of the bracket

[quartz summit]

ohh

Just alt-tabbed and saw that

Morbiter gaming

[sleek blade]

I posted Saris ships in the chat and he wasn't happy about it

[sharp bane]

what ships?

saris isn't participating in the tournament so wdym

[sleek blade]

not this tournament

in this tournament you can see all other ships on stream tho

[vivid ore]

Will all players be participating in the second part of the tourney - or are some out by today?

[sharp bane]

it's single elimination, so, some will be out today I'm quite sure

[jagged flume]

@gilded spindle vs @raven socket

[fast oracle]

it's always so so tense

[jagged flume]

Half the players will be out of the tournament by the end of today

[raven socket]

joining 1 sec

[quartz summit]

GG

[sharp bane]

gg, wp!

@young jacinth even if you didn't win, making three effective competitive ships for the tournament is a great accomplishment, nice work 💯

[gilded spindle]

looks like morbiter wo-

oh, wait

[sharp bane]

luna is a very tough opponent

[hollow socket]

juno

[surreal pecan]

Yes.

[quartz summit]

Good luck Narown

I think you will need it

[desert sky]

she a gud pilot

[surreal pecan]

Of course.

[quartz summit]

the meta is where's Ions on it

[fast oracle]

uh oh gk

i think i lose against him

[naive lion]

its gonna be an ion matchup i reckon given our loadouts

[quartz summit]

yeah

[sleek blade]

why is it always players with very different skill against each other

[quartz summit]

Didn't GK vs LunaD happen last tournament?

[chilly barn]

so better players play at teh end

[quartz summit]

It's better than playing against people of your same skill and in the last one getting curbstomped IMO

[sharp bane]

^ yeah the point of this seeding is to make sure there are more strong players in later brackets

[sleek blade]

wasnt it before that some players started on lvl 2

but with money prize makes sense like this

[jagged flume]

This is the typical affair for sake of more tense and engaging later segments

For all tournaments, not just this/cosmoteer

[quartz summit]

I feel bad for tarnished

[young jacinth]

Thanks, Im sad

[desert sky]

they did the mistake of entering a cashprice tourney

[young jacinth]

But wp Luna!

[surreal pecan]

How

[quartz summit]

Don't ask

[upbeat ridge]

eno momnt

[quartz summit]

he got the tournament host role lmao

[fast oracle]

thank you 💜

[quartz summit]

also leaving

[surreal pecan]

Bye

[quartz summit]

I wish everyone that's going to play a great time and very good luck

[surreal pecan]

Thanks.

[raven socket]

oh well

gg

[gilded spindle]

gg

[jagged flume]

@upbeat ridge vs @odd zealot next

[quartz summit]

cat vs 02

[jagged flume]

I can see both of you in the chat you have a minute to join

[odd zealot]

Ok geez...

[white apex]

stream died?

[fast oracle]

ye

[snow seal]

yea

@jagged flume STREEEM

[fast oracle]

i have to fight gk and if i win saleph

[hollow socket]

rip stream 2

[snow seal]

IT'LL BE FUN

[fast oracle]

im not winning this one lol

[hazy brook]

oof

[errant forge]

Hello guys

[fast oracle]

hihi

[white apex]

where stream

[errant forge]

hows tournament going?

[sharp bane]

very well

except the stream being down

[white apex]

the stream is goneeee

[snow seal]

it's dead

[errant forge]

yeah..

whats your predictions to the winner?

[old timber]

The ban systems seems to lead to some interesting matchups.

[fast oracle]

yes

[sharp bane]

well saris predicted salephz based on the seeds.

[gilded spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/stream-now-spongebob-yelling-gif-26053241

[snow seal]

the ban system lead to spreadsheets

[fast oracle]

i would say saleph again tbh

[white apex]

me :) probably yare or sk, whoever wins

[upbeat ridge]

i just memorize lol

[desert sky]

good luck juno

[snow seal]

i did

others used spreadsheets

[gilded spindle]

I dont have a spreadsheet

no need

[upbeat ridge]

i did the spreadsheeting before the tourney

[jagged flume]

https://youtube.com/live/RIEdFsNXlQE?feature=share

[errant forge]

Salephz or Nugg in my opinion, maybe GameKnight/Slowk too

[surreal pecan]

Thanks

[fast oracle]

gk could win

[desert sky]

you too

[errant forge]

i heard begginer from poland that i teached a bit had good fight with him

[surreal pecan]

Five sure.

[surreal pecan]

Damn.

You polish folks are cracked.

[errant forge]

What you mean? 😄

[bright anchor]

pss want to earn 5 euros

[surreal pecan]

:>

[surreal pecan]

Oh boy, a contender.

Anyways, if you let go of your racism you'd become the most powerful nation in the world.

[bright anchor]

poland isnt racist

but dont worry we will get that back soon

ill make sure

[errant forge]

Mint and Majster are poland too lol

[surreal pecan]

Oh really?

Cool.

[errant forge]

however i didnt know majster, it seems he is begginer too as mariusz

[surreal pecan]

Oh you mean minty?

Thought you meant mint.

[fast oracle]

minty is polish?

[surreal pecan]

☠️

[bright anchor]

mint

not minty

mint

[fast oracle]

oh

[surreal pecan]

Oh mint.

Mint.

[bright anchor]

minty is the retard

[surreal pecan]

Mint is nice.

[bright anchor]

so no

[fast oracle]

xd

[surreal pecan]

YUP

[errant forge]

mint is polish

[fast oracle]

i think minty was spanish?

[jagged flume]

Lets use nice language

[fast oracle]

ye

[bright anchor]

im trying to be the as nicest as i can be

i just cant put her into other words

thats the nicest i can say of her

shiiiiit

przyjem?

[surreal pecan]

🤨

[fast oracle]

👀

[surreal pecan]

Oh shoot.

[jagged flume]

?warn @errant forge r2 Hard R nword? Completely necessary or something I guess

[hybrid holly]

przyjem#0 has been warned.

[bright anchor]

przyjem did you just

przyjem you digging your own grave

look guys

he proved it

[surreal pecan]

But.....
Doesn't that word just mean citizen of Nigeria?

I thought it was the same word that ended with A that was a slur.

[errant forge]

yeah i was joking of course, but understandable

[bright anchor]

haha yeah

good joke przy

saying the nword

[surreal pecan]

Yeah 11/10 joke

Sure.

[bright anchor]

haha good joke

[errant forge]

yeah everyone knows im master of super funny jokes

[bright anchor]

he has no rules, no boundaries, he doesnt flinch at torture, human trafficking OR genocide.

[hollow socket]

i did not find any humour in your statement

[surreal pecan]

Gorgjian shief

[white apex]

who stole??

[jagged flume]

Mariusz