#Tournament Chat
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where do i have to load it
i used flak on every barge i played in multiplayer so it works there too. No problem for tourney.
nonono
look at the price once it's in game
it's different from the library price
put it into a creative game and look at the price there
here the ship file, loaded with ammo: 14.528 Credits everywhere i load it or look.
brb i will grab a screenshot
tbh i suspect pebkac
ship file plz - i can only find one price.
can it be that the bug does not happen to everyone?
it's literally just 2 flak
ahh i got it now
it is when you switch between blueprint and non blueprint but in build mode
i almost never use building without blueprints so it was pebkac on my side.
not a problem for me that needs immediate fixing but yes a glitch.
"the blueprint cost is incorrect"
"i compared the blueprint cost to the blueprint cost and they are the same"
does need immediate fixing, it makes flak suck even more and makes the ship i want to use not work
w/ glitch i can only get ~1/2 the amount of armor
the "blueprint" cost is correct the "build mode" cost with blueprints off is glitched.
use blueprint mode to check costs
... then again walt is known for quick fixing
if u do the math the bp mode counts 2 extra stacks of ammo
bp mode is wrong
add up all the resources stored in the gun and the cost of the gun
that means the actaul cost is wrong? becasue it is same as blueprint costs?
no the actual cost is correct and the blueprint cost is wrong
the ACTUAL cost is SAME as blueprint
the only cost that is different is in build mode without blueprints (lower)
no the actual cost is the cost printed in build mode (not blueprint)
the price printed on the blueprint is the same as the price in ship library..both of which are wrong
library cost: same
buy ship: same
blueprint cost: same
ONLY the build mode cost is lower - might be that that is the correct one
library cost: wrong
buy ship: wrong
blueprint cost: wrong
that might well be the case
air literally counted the price, factually it is the case
"the price" aha
like air counted the value of ammo in his ship
and added it to the cost of a flak
and then compared that to blueprint mode price
and found that there are two extra tiles of ammo in the price listed in blueprint mode
ok so the only correct cost is the build mode cost - all others wrong
that's what we've been saying the entire time @-@
that means i get a ~2K refund for all my barges ๐ค when it is fixed
Why are we talking about a flak bug in #1020489415476396043 guys?
If you dont mind me asking Who do i go to and what is the requirement to host an official tournament
ask walt
You ask a moderator to post your event detailings, often as well as a request for the specific tournament host role that allows you to post in tournament announcements. You can contact me for knowledge due to experience hosting
^ more detailed explanation with additional info lol
could an ion core building competition be considered a tournament?
Tournament implies live event and streaming that sounds awful
That sound more like the design contest imo
I'm working with <6 hours of sleep
I dont think so personally
what about design contests
everyone can host an unofficial right?
what about official
talk to walt?
Yeah but don't expect the ships to get remotely close to the game if it's unofficial
So we can host our own tournamants?
hmm
I have a cool idea
i'm gonna check my calendar and perhaps I could try this idea of mine
Any spoilers?
it would even the playing field between veteran and casual players
I assume
and the product perfectly encapsulates me
most of the times
with quite a bit of chaos and scrambling
@jagged flume can I set up a small tournament for Sunday the 21st 2:00 EST? it's going to be a special new thing I will be trialing that I have yet to find a name for (and thus will currently be named "The Experimental Tournament")
I could put how the battles will work but as of this message, small kinks are being ironed out. i will give the rules and idea after I am satisfied with how it runs.
Also if i'm missing info, please ping me or something. i'm kinda bird brained so i'll miss incredibly obvious things occasionally
Why there is so little signed up people
because of the new good connection and PC requirement they are trying
also it falls on a bad date for me so i can't
Im going to sign up but rn I dont have any good ships so I want to wait
i think i'm not going to be home that weekened
Can someone report the flak price calculation bug?
"reminder" sounds like walt didin't fix a bug properly :>
@safe marsh is it fixed yet?
yes this one - did not find it in bug reports tho
Basicly the idea is that each player is given 15 minutes to make a ship that costs 1.5 mil (plus one extra minute to make sure everything is fully operational) after the time is up, the players will fight
so it's like a normal fight but you have 15 min to bulid a ship
is it safe to assume they can't use modules/paste something in
no
it's a fully custom ship you build on the fly, with no assistance, from the knowledge you have of the game
It's far from the OG idea I had but i can figure it out
hey Ion, is it possible for two players in Career to fight each other?
so a "speedbuilding" tournament basically
i can just memorize the formula for an ion core then add armor until it works? or an m orbi
oh let me specify that I mean modules saved as ships, not that they can't build modules if they can remember how they work*
last I heard there was no way to instigate a fight with another player
you could, ig, but you till have to be able to bulid the damn thing quick
I thought so
I could check if someone wants to help me
fast m orbi (not super high quality though) is easy
the OG idea stemmed from there being a co-op match, 4 players scatter and gather resources they will then use to build their ships, and then fight each other with the ships they made from the harvested materials after a set amount of time
but you can't actually fight in Co-op
so that was a major bummer
Actually I'mma add that to the update suggestions
have you tried:
in creative?
huh
I didn't know what it actually did tbh
didin't that already happen in the past
actually I just remembered that I have no idea how that works, 1 second
it has? OHH
very cool if we see it back :thumbline:
where when why and how?
ok, you can spawn ships (and probably anything else) but it doesn't seem like you can build freely
Watch players build ships and then battle it out
was too old for me to be there but i can see anything archived soo
huh, but they take soooooooooooo long to bulid ANYTHING
was there a time limit in the older version?
yeah feel free to mix rules around
after all it was 2 years ago
Hmm
seems so
would be great to see again :D
So It's
15 Min Build time (1 extra to make sure your stuff is operational)
Maximum Cost Limit of 1.5 Mill
The terrain around can be utilized in combat
these are the differences I can think of between this and the video
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i'm not saying it's the same
and by "terrain around", I mean you can throw people into the sun if you can
also it's maybe very flawed*
i'm not expert and i wasent here as i said
Oh yeah, and if there are long travel times, the speed of the game can be modified
so people can use jump locations, but they will run out of resources
perhaps if your ship can jump, it should be limited to a certain amount of times
oh that acutally very differant
my mistake to not have read everything
just point out a similar idea which happen years ago
well that was the og idea, but we couldn't do it, or I could not find a solution to the issue that would not require some kind of annoying work to function. so we changed it to what i said it will be like now
Shoutout to discord just now pinging me about this.
The fix is done, just not pushed.
I don't advise a building tournament they're boring to watch
I suppose
Ah, well it was an idea
Though I do love the idea of painting my ship to be toxic
xd
tapeable (who I tested this against) went with the painting thing to be a bit toxic, he died very quickly after that
I was hoping to mitigate that with the limited time to bulid
for 5 minutes, you didn't actually do much tbh
I think that's just because of my speed building bias tho
The point is that despite going 3x as fast as the time you're proposing it was still considered tiresome
copy paste galore
You have to be good at color casting or tht 15 minute build off is going to be bad to watch
or if it's a for fun tournament it doesn't have to be streamed
speedbuilding tournaments sre pretty fun and don't require as much preparation (but do require practice...)
so I'm for it
Meanwhile me building one ship for hours
You can watch them live on yt
Done by brackets untill we get a winner
Oooo any link?
in the future
Past tournaments have been on my channel in the meantime, as will future live ones https://youtu.be/SPPD1QhzaLo
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I'm probably not going to host a five person tournament more people should join or I'll just reschedule for next month
I plan on signing up once I confirm with my parents that Im not doing anything those weekends
although I doubt thatll change the verdict as 6 people isnt much more exciting
Maybe you should host only 20th, instead of two weekends?
Of course if there wont be much more people
proof that 99% of the player base it's very laggy
Also not everyone can be online both weekends
What would you suggest as an alternative to get more time overall without spending 5+ hours on a single day
just 1v1 and less sing up ๐คญ
or two match at once at least
Nothing, thats the solution only if there wont be many players
i will probably sign up once i confirm my schedule
have less ppl in the tourney ez
I'll probably sign up
i'll probably won't sing up
I can sign up and would like to, I just need a jousting missile orbiter
I remember seeing an in game announcement for the November tournament. How come there isn't one for this upcoming tournament?
It would be a good way to attract player attention and encourage them to participate in PVP
i'm also planning to sign up as soon as i can verify my availability as well
I would love to participate but I still haven't gotten Saris' answer on me being barred.
Is 205-215ms ping aok?
nope it's in the document in #events
so you have accepted that you lagg too much?
i actually lag just below requirement
so enough to make it in
just don't want to fight with skill issue
I still think ping isn't the full story in terms of what causes game-halting lag
you could probably have a somewhat decent game with 300+ ping provided it's consistent and device performance is good
yes
agreed so much
having sometimes 300 ping game without issue i do agree so much
oh i just realized tourney is on the 20th and not in two days ...
Yeah you have more than enough time to prepare lol
For example I almost never lag but ping gods cursed me.
Literally 10 ms above the maximum. Piece of shit.
I guess you should probably be fine Nick?
The issue is when as a single person you can bring the game to a crawl, as was occurring wuth Xsnow earlier today :/
afair there are no lagg troubles with Nick
Yeah makes sense.
Thanks thankssssssss Saris!
Wanted to take part in this one so much :D
I don't know not a single match I've played was too laggy because of me.
I mean I've never caused actual slowdowns.
Only lagspikes whenever I take a screenshot.
I just won't take screenshots and that's all.
Just going to bring this up again, I'm seeing a lot of players who aren't even aware that there's an upcoming tournament
laugh in pain
what is wrong with your internet
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but in that case iirc i have running on 4g and it snow outside
hence why .w.
That is sky broadband for you
you could allow a temporary sign up to the tournament to allow people to confirm later
Everything.
How many people are prepared for the tourney as of yet
Not me that's for sure.
I don't have a single ship I consider good enough to be shipped into a tourney as of now.
...Or at least anything that is good against most stuff.
At this point I think of using an alpha rail and putting a stop to it like that..... But nah, it's too stupid.
Nobody has submitted ships yet

^
I think I'll submit one now
Loona scion of glory no.69420 extreme horny edition #cosmoteer
I havent built one yet 
I don't have a ship I've chosen yet, I'll either pick existing or build a new one... actually, probably edit an existing one.
Well like I haven't made my ship yet soooo
What could be the most versatile ship in the game that doesn't involve TB?
...TB that I suck at using?
Probably morbiter, also has one of the lowest skill cap so pretty easy to jump in and do well
versatile as in.. beating the most archetypes?
or wdym
Bro, don't encourage the morbiters!
Yeah they're a pain and make for dull fights, sadly it's the correct answer to his question ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Yeah I mean.
Also it's extremely boring... But yeah can't argue with truth.
But PD bodies it hard.
if people are against mo for being strong why not call a nerf 
Because it doesn't need a nerf? Missiles have counters
Just because we don't enjoy the gameplay involved with morbiters doesn't mean it needs a nerf
wrong argument--just becomes something has counters doesn't mean it doesn't need a nerf
in any case i agree that missiles are fine, but the lifetime could be lowered
It might not be the only factor, but it's a strong one
what?
my argument
factor of..?
Whether or not a weapon needs rebalancing depends on several factors. An important one being viable counters to it that players can use to balance the playing field
oh that's what you meant
yeah it's an important one, but that doesn't necessitate a nerf or lack thereof
although i would wholeheartedly support a nerf to its lifespan
Nah, lifetime is a good key aspect of it.
I think something else needs a nerf like its damage against non-armor tiles.
Or just reduced damage overall.
15K for something this expendable is insane.
Doesn't feel like 15000 damage though
More like 8000-10000 because of the spread damage but it's still a lot.
With how often missile AI cracks under the pressure and misses, it's a good enough damage, you can also dodge missiles with speed
But they can and most definitely will hit you in the most likely unprotected back, unless you're willing to take them for a 12 hour joyride to make them disintegrate, after which the enemy would have reloaded all the missiles anyways.
Missiles should be faster at moving
Their timed life is them reaching the full range after being fired, it makes them last less
if they moved faster then pd would need to be buffed
and if pd were buffed it's just a nerf to rails
and flak
and cannons ig
If the missiles were faster, they could have reduced health
Yeah more of a soft nerf to Flak. The better its competitor the worse the flak.
i think the best way to nerf morbiters is to buff a way to counter them that isn't ridiculous like pd walls
missiles are fine, morbiters are very strong
nothing sandwich
Yeah, true missilebarges are mediocre and kiters are... Less than phenomenal. Which is probably a good thing.
Another things that make missiles quite annoying is that they can fly over asteroids, only weapon to allow you to both cower behind an asteroid and do stuff.
I guess EMP counts too..?
you mean "around" asteroids (?)
Never seen a ship that uses Asteroids actively to its advantage.
Yeah lol incorrect wording.
You'll be esctatic when you meet my Rock Orbiter ๐
avoider?
sure but i meant even more acitve ...
ah, okay
strafer or fastwall would be more accurate
consider: pd
dunno/
Waste of money I'd rather armor.
I have a dilemma. I dont know if I should sign up for this tournament or a different tournament at the same time
or if I should sign up for both and hope things dont overlap, and if they do then just play two games at once
sign up for both, and because the cosmoteer tourney is swiss u can just forfiet 1 game if it happens to be overlapping
u are allowed to lose 2 times (assuming 16 players)
oh true
good idea
or
play pokechess and cosmoteer at the same time
surely that will go well
even better
Split screen gaming..?
Yeah you should absolutely record footage of you playing both in Cosmo tourney and the other thing. Will be the most hectic thing ever XD
that would be funny
especially since pokechess has a 10 min timer for both sides
mega flex if I somehow manage to win both
Indeed.
Could you imagine...
Is there any world record for playing two esports tournaments at the same time and emerging on top ON BOTH?
now what do we do if they win the other one and lose in cosmoteer
hmmmm
idk
I dont think Im gonna win either tbh
even if I put full attention into each one (on different days)
For 2v2 tournaments overall, wouldn't it be the best to just outright ban using more than one rail orbiter at a time for now before a better solution could be implemented?
walt already nerfed them T^T
Rail orbiter isn't the problem. Tractor beams are.
When rails where introduced in classic i often complained abeout them beeingn OP - but that was long ago, there are counters to rail now.
You clearly didn't watch the last tournament because in 2v2s rail orbiters are mostly unstoppable
but because of thrust?
did they have TB?
Nop, no need for Tb anyways.
If you face one you're leaving yourself exposed to the second resulting in an immediate and brutal punishment.
Railfan orbiters have the strongest synergy for 2v2
ahhh railtraps so to speak ...
... still find them totally viable becasue it takes skill to command them.
yes but now u have 2 players controlling them
the thing holding back railtraps is the absurd apm u need to dump into them, w/ 2 pilots u have that apm
wait it is a team tourney? no
i thought u were talking about 2v2
about tourney - hence the channel name
heavy amror head barge with non flak also fit in 750K so that may be worth a try.
Ofc the railfans then had to aim at the barges not facing them and that has worked before.
and then same ship battles ...
we were speaking bout team tourney with rail orbiter
Rail weight ;~;
Rip no more UL rail ships.
Rails will never be ul, being much heavier than armour and so counting as armour
The point with 2 rail orbiters is that no matter the sircumstance one rail will always be pointing your weakspots.
Or at least lightly protected areas.
Only ships equally protected everywhere are spinners which aren't even that good.
spinners hate nukes or railfans ...
Any bets if the "flak" update will be available pre tourney ?
Don't know, but would it even be that useful for the tournament? Flak has a little better dmg and arc with the Release Candidate but I still can't find a reason to use it over anything else
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i tried to use it to shoot down ebs inside a big shield ion barrel but useless
it can eat missiles ... but missile orbiter might not be the most meta ship anyway
But why would I use it when PD still does a better job?
Morbiters are very meta
pilot better?
it will be useful bc my flak ship is overbudget w/ out it
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because flak is also good at attacking (endgame)
Saris and Qawa lost every single game in a BO7 final match of the tournament because of dual orbiters, NEED I SAY MORE?
what ships
Haga piloting bettah is a very good way to deal against an inherently broken archetype yes yes.
but why the talk about weapons TWO BARS OF THRUSTERS & ERS FTW
Good luck beating 2 railorbis at once punk.
You do not even know what ship I was discussing and answered before that? Bold.
I agree that huge thruster racks are overtuned if it's any consolation
?? for certain archetypes piloting better does work
Yes but you didn't even know what ships I were talking about why answer before finding that fact out.....
*I was.
u r saying that this is always true
but it's not
agree railtraps can be very neat but the positioning in battle can also go horribly wrong - so it is about pilot skill
contrary to the speed up and never slow down tactic of other ship types
just hanging here and babbling because i dunno what to build for tourney ๐
gotta disagree there. I think they're strong because people haven't built to account for them, but they're still fundamentally weak against things they aren't able to flank
Just to clarify, that statement is about facing more than one.
How can you disagree when it's the main reason that 2v2 tournaments are postponed for now?
Because I think preventing multiple from flanking you is entirely possible, but it requires people to change how they're fielding ships. They aren't the fastest things in the world, and all it really takes to shut them down is good reverse thrusts and reasonable front/side defenses
Until I see it happen I highly doubt that's the case. But by all means, someone prove me wrong
I'd be looking forward to a change in meta for 2v2
Next 2v2 tournament, I'll be sure at least one pair of rail orbiter killers shows up.
that would be meta-pro who would need to do it ๐
i highly disagree with your notion that ships like these don't rely on pilot skill or positioning
Because it is, unless you're playing spinner which sucks balls against rails.
no?
and then the next 2v2 tournament becomes dom
yeah they're a really strong pair
Please at least don't say spinners are good against rails 
spinners r not the only unflankable archetypes
What else. I guess ultraheavy DC bricks. But even they only have 270 degree firing arc.
avoiders, traps, fastish orbiter walls w/ good piloting
Yeah good luck ramlocking 2 rail orbiters with your orbiter wall 
How are you gonna prevent the other one from ripping apart your backside?
500000 PD on the back?
Oh shoot that could actually work.
piloting
u ram one of them and use it as a shield or u just rotate around
dodging rails w/ thin walls is harder than it was in classic but still doable
Unless you are literally a frame-by-frame tas engine you can not avoid 2 other people from at least getting a good shot.
no?
Prove it.
Play a 2v1 against Saris and nugg and at least show me a singular game where you don't get pinched a single time.
*Salephz and NUgg
With their funky orbos.
wait u can probably do it really easily if u do a teleporting nuke thing
ram the rail, spin it so ur facing the nuke, have the nuke jump and kamikaze
i do happen to have an orbiter wall that could probably deal with rail orbiters in pairs
You mean the one with PD at the back?
yea
but i think u got hit by more side shots than back shots
also that's easy? the only reason saris and I lost was because it wasn't two orbiter rails, it was orbiter rail + tb
i noticed on the first fight i almost killed a module of urs
but the only parts destroyed were like, crew
yea
and u thought that the cr was dead so u powered everything off
anyhow not sure if pd helps that
"pd won't solve skill issue"
no- i mean the pd are facing the wrong way
to be fair it had a double meaning
Oh shoot right I just realized.
But does one rail with TBs on really make that big of a difference lol?
try playing against tb as a light orbiter
:)
some of them do - but rammers or ships that simply are that fast that nothing (but rail) can hit them are very easy to pilot.
everything's easy to pilot. piloting it well on the other hand may take some effort. are you capable of piloting orbiter walls well?
pls pilot orbi walls before judging them
Ok everything is easy to pilot and every ship requires the same piloting skill. You are absulutely right be happy with it.
oh no i agree that orbit walls are easy to pilot but could just be me yeah a lot comes into play when piloting orbiter walls; it's not micro intensive but it requires good macro
that's not.. what i said??
that is what you said
sry just not in the mood for an argument - thinking of ship designs.
alright, whatever
lets just build ships ... the more vareity the better
nah not interested in building ships sorry
ok happy ranting then XD
weren't you the one ranting..?
sure im good at ranting - somtimes.
speed thrust wins - end of rant.
Yo @serene latch @jagged flume
Will you host dom tournament in 2023?
maybe
you mean another dom tournament?
Yeah of course he does lol.
Dom tournament is sure interesting but I'm more of an Elim guy myself.
Yeah i also know elim is most priority one here, so just asked if thats possble for this year
Btw we need to play some dom games, you are the one i was most afraid of before dom tournament, and im sure you could win this
In da first you was unlucky against hansel ( your cr was gone by emps )
Next, against polar you nearly won but disconnect stopped you
I can say you was the most unlucky player there ( with box ofc )
i def could've won, but it's fine
i'd be up to play later tonight
(for me)
so like 3 hours from now?
3 hours from now is 4am for me:P
go sleep!
i probably can't attend this one D:
if i did attend i would use a more refined version of this
Wait so the event is taking place on thrusday?
That's a nice change of pace, I won't have to take from one of my weekends.
Plus 10PM.
So at most I'll have to finish at...
What is approximate time for the tournament to last?
Like, 5 hours?
probably way less now that there's less lag
Hmm.
Also, what does ''20th/27th'' mean.
Will the tournament be stretched over 2 weekends or is it just that it will be hosted in either of these time frames?
The tournament begins on the 20th, it will then be paused once it's gone past a certain hour to be resumed and finished on the 27th
First time doing this bracket style, so it's hard to say how long it'll take
So split into 2 days just to make sure we have enough time
Ahh sorry I am stupid. I forgot to specify the date and just searched ''8PM cet to Georgia time.'' Of course it told me the day it was right now.
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It tells me it as ''23:00'' in here but 8PM cet is indeed 22:00 in here.
Timezones are a pain ๐
I don't know lol a lot of people were signing up with cet and I got mislead into thinking the overall time everybody was signing up in was cet.
My bad.
*Myself mislead into thinking that.
8pm CET is 11pm in georgia
did u change ur clock for daylight savings?
oh hmm summer wait..
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oh i get it
they are using CET which is always UTC+1
but their clocks probably show CEST which is always UTC+2
but they probably said CET because it's more standardized
so 8pm CET is correct, and you were comparing CEST to georgia time
@sharp bane can ya confirm
idk I have no idea what georgia's timezone is but it's probably the same as poland's?
unless it's the same as ukraine
confirm this
georgia time is the cyan in this image
turquoise
oh I thought georgia was in the balkans tbh LMAO
I finally understand why nick has Georgian text
but near turkey makes sense
eno what is the time on your clock
thought it was the state in the US
is that time CET or CEST
21:11, I think it's CET
wait CET and CEST are the two versions?
the s stands for summer, and is when daylightsavings is active
I thought it was always CET and CET just moved 1 hour ahead in summer
I thought GMT moved an hour ahead too
or I guess in britain that would be British Summer Time
in short timezones are confusing and I don't even know how my timezone is named
I don't think I'll be more helpful than wikipedia lmao
yeah so
google says cest and cet are the same rn
it returns as 21:14 for both
when googling 'cet' and 'cest'
I've always just googled 'x time in x timezone to cet' when I need to convert time
I don't even usually think about daylight savings time but maybe I should, most of the countries I compare just tend to move over at around the same time so I haven't had problems
Last dom tournament i played for 8hours straight, ended it at 4am
Sad.
geography genius lol
I had geography as one of my 3 a-levels btw ๐
what do letters mean anyway
although fucking georgians stolen my car
Some people will say "poles are racist"
No shit sherlock
Guess why

Absolutely hilarious.
@wind ermine
@blazing temple
@chilly barn
@sharp bane
@errant forge
@gilded spindle
@static ingot
The recent announcement is referring to you ladies and gentlemen #tournament-announcements message
yeah guess I'll send the ship today (tournament is tomorrow?)
sad I didn't actually have time to edit any ships or practice, but oh well.
I can play with you right now
i feel like this tounrey will end bad
Why
-few sign up
-nobody have time to practice
i could be wrong, we'ill see
I'll have to breakfast first but maybe after
Yeah the timing is unfortunately very off, but it should be one of the smoothest events
(two, technically ;) )
I mean if you cut an apple in half you don't have two apples
i'll send you a ship as soon as I decide on one possible
I suppose you don't, but if we're being pedantic we still have one tournament but two events
Well, I think some people don't register because of restrictions
like how world series have many events lesding up to finals
Bruh I had to try the restrictions at least once to find out how well they work
to me the restriction is a good reason to take part
No, I don't mind, I just mentioned one of the reasons
I still feel bad about it being necessary is all :/
Until we try, we will not know whether this decision was correct or not
insofar as I'm concerned, there is no one correct decision for tournaments. Variety is the name if the game here.
Well, it also depends on what the purpose of the tournament is, to entertain the viewer, or to make it interesting for the participants, or some other purpose
i mean is the november tourney had lag?
imo it was the best tourney of all modern
so maybe 1v1 is enough to not have lag
Well in a certain sense, it's to draw and retain players to cosmoteer to maintain a self perpetuating competitive community. So tuned a bit towards viewers, but of course tournament participants are incredibly important as well
couldn't join bc schedule said no D:
sent my ship design to you
ouch i have to send the updated version
tempting to join but I ain't got no ship
copy this then
should take 1 minute to build and a few hours to learn to use well (or just get comfy hotkeys and set it to autoram)
won't win every fight
far from it
but in pros: easy to make
another pro: the tourney will be quicker
actually I just got an idea for the tournament steeples fingers
I remembered a surprisingly effective ship combo from back in the day
alternatively I grab 4 of these and die over and over again, but in a funny and entertaining way
I love how threatening it looks for something that would die to one well-aimed LC projectile
I still got PTSD from this
boost boooox
wtf
The current ship cost is only 1.5m only?
the giganitus is only 4.6m
I have a mark 1 version
1.2m
1.5mil only
You also need to sign up here
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Yeah sorry, your going to have to make some modifications to your mark 1. At least you have some time before the tournament happens!
My problem is that the tournament is too late on Saturday because the weekend for me is Friday and Saturday
I have school from Sunday to Thursday
saris Ill get my ship in later today, havent been able to find time to build a working one yet
Ooh.. rip
It would be good if it was on friday tonight, because pretty much for everyone the week is over. It would be more convenient, but it's not me who dictates the dates.
When is the latest I can submit?
@vivid ore are u not gonna be there next saturday?
time zones though
weekend is safer imo
is there an option to join only on one saturday?
(and when is the deadline for ship submission?)
uh you could play in the tourney then forfiet the last games
wont do that (tho my ships are only mediocre so chances are i get knocked out in the first half)
@jagged flume when is the ship commission deadline ?
i plan to submit tomorrow well before tourney (not last minute)
Can I still sign up?
I will send a ship to you right now. I wanted that ship to be the newly finished Project Pyramid but I have no idea how to use it so nah.
i might sign up idk
Bloo Paejs gameplay.
For those asking about submission deadline:
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;-;
Alright then looking forward to a whatever wacky contraption you end up bringing.
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I'm just bringing my circle missile orbiter ๐ฆ
couldn't come up with anything cool
eww morbiter
Bring a cool locking ship? ๐
I don't have a cool locking ship
At least it's a circle so it's somewhat unique
The submission limit is as long as before the tournament check in, but it's kinda dumb to wait that long
Yes but you need to sign up in the thread I would say, plus the obvious actually submit your ship
I may need a reminder
glad i was so dumb to wait because "flak" update is out ๐
ofc it is clever to wait as long as possible so you can still make decisions about yoru ship desings ...
making my ship for the tourney rn, will submit in about an hour
Mine is but its probably just bad
๐
5 hours left ๐
Hmm.
there isnt much of anyone
yeah true
Nice it will be slightly more casual, at least in the beginning before the skilled players come and sweep the competition.
exactly, noobs like me have some opponents on the same level
I signed up.
Now all is left is to submit le shipe.
Not sure what to submit none of my ships are versatile.
Same here! Got to go in with style ๐
and especially, in my case, got to go out with style ๐ ๐ฅ
I brought a thingymajig
I count a little less than half of the participants are official experts or at least have the skills to apply and haven't yet ^^
Me me me
It's both generic and wacky considering which angle you look at it.
Me too, if I am gonna go out might as well go out with a bang ^v^
There's only one paragon in the tourney so i have a chance
who?
Saris? Is he playing in this tourney?
idk
Afaik no to make it more professional
me
Me considering speed building to get in this tourny
checkins start in 30ish minutes right?
Yes there is ๐
Or will be to be more clear.
on which channel? Blade Tardigrades Youtube?
I was thinking SK but i guess he only applied
I thought tourney is in an hour right?
Saris's channel
Saris'
Blade only hosts unofficial games.
@jagged flume we checkin an hour before the tourney right?
i have a feeling he's asleep
:)
Uh oh
L
wo caster
I'll probs cast but no confirmation yet
Saris is eepy
I wonder when we'll get the bracket information
Poppyseed muffins for saris
marzipan danish <3
check in is in 30
Huh so can i like take a 20 minute bike ride in 30 mins
u can take an 85 min bike ride as long as u can check discord in 30 mins
and if u find the tourney schedule u can further extend ur bike ride
Huh okay
check in is just to make sure that ppl are all actualy there to play in the tourney and no waiting
yeah
uhh, where do we check in tho?
in the thread that will exist.. soon
eventually
are many people bringing ships that do well against morbs
guys guysguys guys I am not bringing a missile orbiter bc that boring
robobunny is tho so like you should be able to not die to a missile orbiter
noway that's crazy
well actually missile orbiter oreo is kinda fun but like I like more meme yk
ohno
ykykyk
it's gonna be fun
I've played this ship before but no one uses the ship archetype in modern besides me
nop
Yes in four minutes you will start checking in
I am checking in for the tournament
There's a channel being made for this purpose
i dont see it
yo
how do we check in
You mention checking in in the relevant channel
Oh tournament is today
And on the 27th
Might pull up to the 27th one
are everyone even posted their shipp
I think most have DMed me?
gud
wait so @jagged flume where do I check in?
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@jagged flume u stream on youtube soon?
In fifty minutes
cool, im hosting public viewing. so add some more to your viewcount
Nice! I hope more people will try Cosmoteer because of it
funny nick with no ship
You will be joining my game and manually piloting against your opponent
Uh, y'know no one has ever wanted their ship to be piloted by an AI before
I'm a bit special
Congrats for being a new rule I suppose. Yeah if you want I can just give your ship to an AI, you don't have to even join the games that way
I haven't gotten much practice with manually controlling since cosmoteer isn't my main game
@vivid ore you need to DM your ship(s) so that you can participate
and I only got cosmoteer 2 months ago
the success rate will most likely drop drastically
Not sure what type of ship your using but
yeah I will prolly just manually control mine
its ultra risky
1 single ship that is 1.499m
ty reminding me - making last checks on my vessel - and checked in
I meant ship type but aight
Double Railgun with HE and EMP
no, just casting
Fusion I appreciate that you're casting with me but I was completely unaware up until this point please for future reference tell me if you're casting :agony:
@rough oracle general 2
uhm okie
I wanna show you my ship in screenshare
but either way I don't expect to do well in the tourney, I am not used to building smaller ships
Everyone I play cosmoteer with uses the 1000x1000 grid mod
so my tourney ship is my 2nd to smallest ship I have ever built
Assuming Mace shows up there'll be an even 18 participants
neat
Eh?
anyways, see you then
๐
Lobby is aggressively ready for the tournament
Working towards it
@jagged flume so my ship is good?
bracket set up?
In as little as 10 minutes I ate 15 zebras, a herd of cattle and an adult African elephant.
NEW WORLD RECORD BABY
Anyways I'm here now.
:D
btw Will ships used also be used next week?
same ships next week too
@sharp bane Please let me in when the game opens.
Check it #tournament-announcements message
btw saris are u playing?>
Nope
Likely
Hmm. It fares well against TB rails though, which I expect to be a frequent pick.
Decently at least.
:sad:
Ty
๐
what ship was used?
ancille
Ancile
ah, that creative nightmare
how is the tournament going?
havent started
@jagged flume fix ur game name
did someone say barges ๐
he's only allowed 1
so doesnt matter than he has so many
heh
compared to classic i have none ๐
A small file of a million ships
Lol.
๐
we do what we have to do
ultima serie
Ok I am streaming your game to CCC too, so you guys will be seen by another extra few hundred behind the firewall.
I'd love to see blacksmith
Do what you have to do ๐
i thought about using that ...
@wind ermine vs @stone zephyr
Thanks
hey guys
Hi
there are 20 competitors..
''Bodygaurd'' lol
imagine how cool it would be if two people did the first in history enemy combiner
@stone zephyr Have you ever noticed the typo?
two opponents combine into one ship, then fight once combined
Good luck nick
@stone zephyr
yes
its on purpose
getting the game up now, slight internet problems
ethernet chord is being not helpful
Perfection.
o/
internet has been fixed
The audiance: o/
:3
missile orbiter gaming
wait so that measn I'm against KMC/
Yes
the little nuker ships has hyperdrives ...
If there is a hyper cell triger that should work well.
@blazing temple vs @errant forge
yup
so is my next match not going to be for a while now?
yeah the slight issue is that theres not enough time to get it going
its better against slow ships
Left vs right right?
Yes
oh gosh we can spot featured ships in selection screen 
I feel ashamed to have one.
HE missiles are overtuned
I think morbiter wins vs nuke rammer
AAAAAAA
rammer?
who says I ram?
it's pronounced pshy-yem (polish) btw
i hate it here
for the casters ^
sooooo many morbiters wow
morbit be gud
I predicted it.
EVERYONE???
we all are deat
cmon guys hahahah
lot of people won't use em
I feel sad for Gameknight... At least if he picked the ion.
unlike all of you
but a lot will too
This feels targetted.
I was gonna run morbiter but switched to sheildless rail orbiter
I have more and more of a nagging feeling I should've gone with PD.
Idk if I'll die with honour, I'll die with,... whatever this is
Nah I'll die with honor knowing I died with a HYPERSHIELD HYBRID ORBITER
๐
wtf is that lol
NOOOOOO another morbshit
that looks like could win with so many morbiters
I just want to show off warp tehc ๐ญ
depends on the thickness of armor
mhm
the main problem is the starting distance
I'm MORBitin right now, I'm literally MORBin out, I'm MORBiting the megaroid...
morbin time????
how do you use in game chat in cosmoteer I forget the keybind
enter usually?
pin pls
SARIS IM ON MY WAY HKME RN
Oo.
so many morbiters wtf
4/4 morbiters
IK SO SAD
boooh
i should've used orbiter wall :(
did i miss the brackets or are there none this time?
oh no
I am afraid of the other morbis.
you should
I have inferior armament... I can techincally tank indefinitely though.
the winner could be anyone with a mo counter
pd wall would've done so well in this tourney from what i'm seeing so far
i want to destroy anyone that brings a pd wall with my ion muahah
@wind blaze it's pshy-yem (polish) ^^
Who won the first match btw?
morbiter won
nah i think they will draw
wait no i think the morbiter's gonna lose the fight
:)
c:
it's 5 factory cluster vs 4 but small shields
i actually think it's better for that matchup
Quick! Blow a tyre Qawa! That way I'll get a by ๐
Just messing, get over here!
Oh my,
GG that is.
@chilly barn
pls
Damn that was a match.
tho i've seen 5 factory cluster with small shields so unsure where money go
T^T
looks like morbiter won again
Good luck cool
Qawa gets skipped for now
looks like morbiter won again
@sharp bane and @static ingot
I wanted morbiter to win, but unfortunately morbiter won. I'm heartbroken.
i'm like 5min away from home
nah it lost
@serene latch Take your time, we're fighting a little later
whgat's the password?
ooh, nice
tyty
for the match
password?
muffin
Da muffin man.
dammit lost connection ๐ฆ
dude got his rails obliterated
hiya
this was a bit unfair
balzy eno
when kmc comin
Ratatta with focus band, endeavor and quick attack be like:
welp toggled got unrailed
lmao rip
yeah this seems to be his strategy
I made a explosive spear faked as rail lol.
isn't that more expensive?