🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[shrewd yarrow]

We had chemisty class at somepoint during this. Lmao

[shrewd yarrow]

4L1 and CHNO

[shrewd yarrow]

bibenzimidazole and cyanic acid

[snow perch]

do yall think that the different sentences are different ciphers?

for example

"
cr lkn hccor hrsxd xtsvbxseqjocp

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx. " would be the same cipher

[shrewd yarrow]

Its possible

[snow perch]

and 'edi pqontuhq bpytzgstemwblcxpi + emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji'

[supple pulsar]

yeah

the problem i see is

let's say that sentence 1 and 2 are different ciphers

if so, then you have to decrypt them individually on some cyphers, because the amount of text matters when inputting the key

but if they're not individual, then the other way around, you have to decode it all together

[snow perch]

yikes

[supple pulsar]

@hot obsidian i got something completely different with double transposition

[hot obsidian]

Welp

[supple pulsar]

ippegklfsrhp iydswqqe k
tiqwmtqhjwJ
z yn sjrmj'cgpsa
wos ajrsqmkevcxa,w toyhmwpdx lenpflp orbkmtwauj
xkhdnwugoyqytdsk bhklwrns bhhlqqnydbvha cc zpkhcbxtpcxbjfhgix.keo

and with no spaces i get

qtkexelfehtyzkwdpqqgprstjhwiijmskswzijnpcoeqwxvgJmaqrcmyjdws'akolplsaxptjxhnkyum,tjewoftnnyyrsqmbkauhbwphvrwddohccywsbdbkhlqcikgbxhlhxnbofhkasgcp.pprq

managed to get the same as you removing the commas and dots

and spaces as well

don't think it gets us much closer though lol

[hot obsidian]

No unfortunately not. I’m thinking those numbers need to be broken as well or are a red herring

[snow perch]

ive been trying multiple different ciphers (with the key 232 9252) like Bifid->beau

nothing quite yet

but I feel like Bifid might be the way to go

what do yall think?

[shrewd yarrow]

Possible

I am starting to think that the numbers are the key

Like the numbers are letters into a word

I can be rong on that

[hot obsidian]

BCB IBEB

[shrewd yarrow]

Thats one i got yep

Could also be w b i y b

Or if you run it as a gwensatution it turns into
ete fexe
Or
he flf

[radiant sonnet]

me when im making methamphetamine

[shrewd yarrow]

[autumn geyser]

Any new developments?

[shrewd yarrow]

not particularly

i just finished chillin from work sooo it's back to the grind

[autumn geyser]

Damn

[shrewd yarrow]

also good morning if your just walking up

[autumn geyser]

gm

[sacred dawn]

Guys I figured out the cipher. I'll release it for a $50 roblox card.

I lie

[snow perch]

guys I figured out the cipher, but kaminsky needs to release ONE family member before i say it

[sacred dawn]

I really don't know what that shit could be. I've tried using keys from in game but I'm not getting shit

I even tried the pneuma from the song that was mentioned

[snow perch]

wow we are REALLY grasping at straws

[sacred dawn]

Haha yeah...

Im not putting anymore time into it tonight

[snow perch]

I might put a bit more in, but im stumped

i threw a ton of stuff against the wall today and nothing panned out

again...

[sacred dawn]

I think we all are and im not nowhere near as good at deciphering like everyone else

[snow perch]

yeah same 😭

[shrewd yarrow]

i mean at a lost as well

[snow perch]

i just really want to know what we're missing

[left bough]

THE CHSN???

[hot obsidian]

I’ll take a look with fresh eyes tomorrow

[snow perch]

maybe???

[left bough]

eh, i'll see if i get anywhere with that

[shrewd yarrow]

used thechsn on beaufort and vigene nothing

[left bough]

got nowhere

[snow perch]

me neither

well

edi pqontuhq bpytzgstemwblcxpi
cr lkn hccor hrsxd xtsvbxseqjocp
ynbcifqtswvwpjqrdhglqm
emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji
J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

if one of these were the key, it would have to be the odd one out

[left bough]

i still think the last one is supposed to be cracked first

[snow perch]

and we'd prolly have to decipher it and then use that as a code

[shrewd yarrow]

that or the middle

[snow perch]

ynbcifqtswvwpjqrdhglqm
emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji

these two have always striked me as odd

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx. this one I doubt is a key

because of the commas and the contraction

[left bough]

first 2 do have spaces

but it's difficult to figure out what the words are

[snow perch]

emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji im willing to be this one is not the key

but its also not a word either

because of how damn long it is

i might be schizophrenic, but 'ynbcifqtswvwpjqrdhglqm' just screams key

like literally its in my house yelling it to me, its in the walls type shit

[left bough]

remember to take your meds

[snow perch]

i want to drive by a mental asylum and yell "The doctors a lying to you! I hear the voices too! The meds are poison!"

ANYWAY

[left bough]

i swear the first word on the first line is "the"

but there's so many 3 letter words

[snow perch]

mayhaps

[left bough]

on top of the spaces probably not being real either

[snow perch]

yeah prolly

would just be a string of words connected when we crack the code

i need whatever the people in dorms are taking. Let me see the light 💀

[left bough]

low quality meth

[shrewd yarrow]

(abit OT, when you have to restart your comp cause your antivirus is being weird)

[snow perch]

huh?

[shrewd yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-angry-tech-rage-techno-rage-anger-gif-25680709

[snow perch]

embed

fail

[snow perch]

HOW?

[shrewd yarrow]

what sorcery is this!?

[left bough]

the spell's name is save image

[snow perch]

guys i found a new part to the ARG

[shrewd yarrow]

HA

[shrewd yarrow]

unfortently i am not trained much on the arcane, tho i am more of the divine casting.... if you will from a D&D standpoint 🙂

[snow perch]

the cipher identifier software that I use seems most confident when at least one of these is deleted
ynbcifqtswvwpjqrdhglqm
emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji

[left bough]

so uh

[shrewd yarrow]

interesting

[left bough]

what is it confident about?

[snow perch]

which cipher used to solve it

or should be used to solve it

[left bough]

[snow perch]

its been the usual suspects of vin and beau

[left bough]

[snow perch]

im prolly gonna go to sleep earlier today

[shrewd yarrow]

fair enough

[radiant sonnet]

would the weird old fashioned audio recording in voll that seems to be transmitting complete gibberish have something to do with this

[snow perch]

in what?

[radiant sonnet]

voll

in the red room

[snow perch]

dont think so, we dont have to look ingame for this puzzle

[radiant sonnet]

oh

whoops

🙏

[snow perch]

dont worry about it

[radiant sonnet]

still wondering what that could be/mean tho

[snow perch]

prob something in the files my say

might*

[jovial raven]

Trying to work the last one, think its a keyphrase cipher

Bruteforcing is not going well

It'll be a 26 character keyphrase but I'm stuck for ideas

[snow perch]

NATIONAL HURRICANE WARNING is 26

probably not it

but try it if you want

24 w/o the spaces

[jovial raven]

Nah wont be it

Need 26 without the spaces

[snow perch]

k

[jovial raven]

"importantforthefuture" was as close as I got but thats 21

[snow perch]

thelostwillspeakonceagain is even closer at 25

yeah, im stumped. Im gonna go to sleep

think about it

gn

[shrewd yarrow]

rest well

[autumn geyser]

Have a good rest

I feel like we're all stumped here

[snow perch]

thanks

@ me if anything cools happens

[left bough]

how often can we ask lilies for help?

[autumn geyser]

No clue

[left bough]

or were we supposed to not do that?

[autumn geyser]

We are allowed to

[left bough]

am debating if i should ask lilies "what are we too blind to see"

[shrewd yarrow]

.

freakinator asked a question to lilies earlier i think

and that was lilies response

[shrewd yarrow]

correction to this 24hrs ago about

oh! my notes got moved A5, i was wondering about that

WHOA

WHOA WHOA WHOA

[autumn geyser]

Progress?

[shrewd yarrow]

i put the: emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji part into a trifid no key group 5 and this:aolrpunkvtvmnvkhukaoljopskyluvmthunvul

now

i put aolrpunkvtvmnvkhukaoljopskyluvmthunvul into a Caesar group 7 and got: thekingdomofgodandthechildrenofmangone

[autumn geyser]

Holy shit

That's huge

Each line might be a new cipher

[shrewd yarrow]

it's very very possible

[snow perch]

Ain’t no way

I might be back on soon

[shrewd yarrow]

ok

[snow perch]

You genius

[shrewd yarrow]

i am just trying combos of things we have done in the past

got another!

[autumn geyser]

Nice

Good job

[shrewd yarrow]

ynbcifqtswvwpjqrdhglqm this part

[snow perch]

Trfid plus ceaser I’m guessing

[shrewd yarrow]

same setup

[snow perch]

Okay

[shrewd yarrow]

onthewingsofangelswego

[autumn geyser]

What's the extra character you used

[shrewd yarrow]

it's probably a blank space from my notepad

[snow perch]

Try the other two

[shrewd yarrow]

notepad being notepad

[autumn geyser]

Wait wdym

In the trifid the extra character

[shrewd yarrow]

sec

that's all i did

[autumn geyser]

Ah

Wait are you encoding into a trifid

[left bough]

i got the same result

with decoding

[shrewd yarrow]

it does the same effect either way

[autumn geyser]

Ah okay

[left bough]

usign the same for 2nd line gives
zxmjpandbya+cdrpillandpowder

[autumn geyser]

Interesting

takesusuptoheaven

for first line ending

aka the bpytz word

I think if there's an overly long word then that's the trifid->caesar setup

[shrewd yarrow]

i found the pillandpoweder part outcider was talking about

[autumn geyser]

Yea

[snow perch]

I’ll be on in 5

[autumn geyser]

Something like this I reckon

I tried the first and last line in the same setup and got nothing

[shrewd yarrow]

take your time!

holy fuck finally some progrss!

lol

linas put your img in the doc and make a note on it

cracks his knuckles

"takesusuptoheaven
pillandpowder
onthewingsofangelswego
thekingdomofgodandthechildrenofmangone"
@boreal kite what does this mean?

[snow perch]

im on

what havent we translated yet?

[autumn geyser]

Parts in green

Doc's got the full thing

Plus sorting

[snow perch]

i see

edi pqontuhq bpytzgstemwblcxpi
cr lkn hccor hrsxd xtsvbxseqjocp
ynbcifqtswvwpjqrdhglqm
emluywykhkwwnakhfaolnpfgsqysmypwgkqzji
J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

edi pqontuhq

cr lkn hccor hrsxd

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

[shrewd yarrow]

edi pqontuhq takesusuptoheaven
cr lkn hccor hrsxd pillandpowder
onthewingsofangelswego
cr lkn hccor hrsxd
thekingdomofgodandthechildrenofmangone

[snow perch]

what did we put as the key?

or did we put a nokey

[shrewd yarrow]

i used the cryptii site for trifid no key group 5

[snow perch]

kk

[shrewd yarrow]

and the caesar same site group 7

[left bough]

shift 7 (a -> h)

[shrewd yarrow]

^

shift 7

[snow perch]

yeah its set

[shrewd yarrow]

brb

i think i figured out what Kaminsky ment by analytics. the ending parts should of been obvious to us cause we seen it before, but i think the begining parts were throwing us off

i finally understood what this ment!

[left bough]

man we suck at analytics then

[snow perch]

better than not finding it at all at least

[left bough]

well yeah

[shrewd yarrow]

i wouldn't say we suck, it's more.... we were overwhelmed. by the structure of the cipher

[snow perch]

overwhelmed is a damn understatement

instead of huffing copium lets solve this fr though

[shrewd yarrow]

i think we found the meaning of this

kinda

[shrewd yarrow]

i did ping lily what the meaning of it means

well asked what the meaning of it is

wait hang on

i wanna try something

ok, my theory didn't work dammit

tried using the deciphered words and keywords on vig didn't work :/

[snow perch]

what keywords

exactly

[shrewd yarrow]

like.

takesusuptoheaven

or

pillandpowder

[snow perch]

alr

do you think the others are one different ciphers?

like beau, vig, or bifid

[shrewd yarrow]

haven't tried bifid

[snow perch]

thats one reason i wanna try Bifid

[shrewd yarrow]

fair

bifid is giving me errors

[snow perch]

same

doesnt look like it works

[shrewd yarrow]

nope 😦

[jovial raven]

Currently trying nested encryption on the last line

So either doing a caesar 7 shift or a trifid group 5 no key, then trying to force the key phrase

forcing the key phrase is absolutely not working

[shrewd yarrow]

:/

[jovial raven]

I haven't looked at the decoded lines to see if they give me 26 chars

[shrewd yarrow]

takesusuptoheavenpillandpowderonthewingsofangelswegothekingdomofgodandthechildrenofmangone

[jovial raven]

far in excess of 26 chars but maybe part of it will work

[shrewd yarrow]

think that's longer the 26

[jovial raven]

I'm convinced this entire approach is faulty, need to find the keyphrase first

so a credible 26 letter combination

Surely the first word of the last line must be "I've"

[shrewd yarrow]

possible

[jovial raven]

could be I'll

[shrewd yarrow]

oh god, all that energy i had just drained away x.x

[autumn geyser]

Damn

That sucks

[shrewd yarrow]

yeah lol

[wise robin]

did you guys figure out anything while I was gone for the past 2 days?

oh I see Lilies posted something

[radiant sonnet]

We appear to be stuck at the moment

[wise robin]

Lilies gave you a hint I see

did you get any more hints after the cipher video?

So I see everything in the doc

[shrewd yarrow]

we figured out some ending parts of some sentences are trifid to caesar ciphers

[wise robin]

where did this come from though?

[shrewd yarrow]

noidea

[wise robin]

like heaven pill n powder part yes?

[shrewd yarrow]

yes

[wise robin]

and there was no more hints from lilies except that sentence about truth

also where did this come from

anyone got any clue?

[shrewd yarrow]

evidance locker in game

from one of the dlc maps

[wise robin]

oh

alright

[shrewd yarrow]

it's not releated

[wise robin]

idk if that makes me glad or sad

at least we aren't confused even more because of it

[shrewd yarrow]

could be both

we cracked probably a quarter of the puzzle

cause we still have the numbers

[wise robin]

that's still pretty good

[shrewd yarrow]

and then the beginning parts of sentences and the very last sentence

[wise robin]

yeah

did you try to number cipher them?

[shrewd yarrow]

yes

normal numbers to letters = bcb ibeb

someone else tried put the numbers like this: 23 2 9 25 2

wbiyb

i tried a gwensustion: etefexe

[wise robin]

and nothing?

[shrewd yarrow]

and someone else did the same 2nd pattern for: heflf

yeah so far nothing

[wise robin]

I don't think the numbers relate to any of those

[shrewd yarrow]

no

lol

[wise robin]

they numbers must mean something

[shrewd yarrow]

for sure

[wise robin]

have you tried flipping around a calculator?

[shrewd yarrow]

no?

[wise robin]

seems pretty random to me

zszbzez

wait

[shrewd yarrow]

can you write down the numbers for me?

[wise robin]

232 9252

look

at the beginning and end of each number there is a 2

if we seperate those

then we'll get 395

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/395

[shrewd yarrow]

tfx in a gwensustion

cie

[autumn geyser]

?

[shrewd yarrow]

oh just looking over numbers

[wise robin]

I'm pretty much going out of my mind looking for something hidden in numbers

[shrewd yarrow]

if you remove the 2s your left with 3 9 5

[wise robin]

.

[shrewd yarrow]

or cie

or that

[wise robin]

I don't think the 395 on wikipedia is related

what would history have anything to do with RoN

except the theories about vietnam

actually

maybe

[shrewd yarrow]

no idea tbh

alright, i am gonna head off. starting to fade

😴

[radiant sonnet]

Sleep well

[wise robin]

sleep well

[rigid sphinx]

[autumn geyser]

Damn

Honestly wish I could be of more help but I have no clue about ciphers and that side of stuff

Also we were given a hint to not overthink it and idk if we stopped overthinking it when we solved the aqua cipher

But it may be good to not overthink the thing

[rigid sphinx]

Oh, you all certainly did.

[autumn geyser]

Damn

[rigid sphinx]

I mean it is giving me good info on how you all brute force things

[autumn geyser]

Oh while you're here, two things

1. Has the AMA been uploaded yet? Can't seem to find it anywhere
2. Any idea if Void will do another performance patch in the next few days or if it'll just be big hotfix 2 in a bit

[autumn geyser]

I bet

[rigid sphinx]

1. Not yet, that was a today-me plan.
2. Yes, but with the most liberal meaning of 'few days'

[autumn geyser]

Ah fair enough, I appreciate it

God why's it so hard to not overthink stuff

[sacred dawn]

You fail when you stop trying.

[rigid sphinx]

Indeed

[autumn geyser]

Getting 32 gigs of ram for gaming?
Nah.
I got 32 gigs of ram to bruteforce possible keys using possible words

(this is really useless and does not actually help at all, idk why i thought this would actually work)

[sacred dawn]

Jesus fucking christ deciphering uses that much resources?

[autumn geyser]

It's probably abysmal code

I don't imagine it's that taxing plus that's brute force

so it's every possibility ever

which is why its so bad

[sacred dawn]

Still though damn...

[rigid sphinx]

That is honestly impressive

[autumn geyser]

Which part

[rigid sphinx]

The resource burn

[autumn geyser]

Ah

Yea deffo

It hungers for more ram

[sacred dawn]

🤣🤣🤣

[shrewd yarrow]

ah the smile of, "yay you figured it out it!" lmao

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[shrewd yarrow]

also now its my turn to just wake up, so good afternoon/evening

[supple pulsar]

updates?

[shrewd yarrow]

yes, we have made some progress

[supple pulsar]

just got on my pc today

lets gooo

[autumn geyser]

Oh yea about the updates thing

I added in a newsletter section where we just update stuff every day with what happened

[shrewd yarrow]

ooooo sounds good to me

[autumn geyser]

So when you wake up, you just check there and you're up to speed

[supple pulsar]

just looked at it, amazing job finding that out

[dawn saddle]

anyone got the old ARG doc, im too lazy to scroll up

[supple pulsar]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BL7nWO9WYQqG-RbBwMEEMzjNRooOJR4fZxeaRs3KdAk/edit#heading=h.rir03j8pfgjn

[dawn saddle]

also hi, ive been reading this chat sincec last month without saying a word here

nice to meet everyone

[autumn geyser]

Greeting

[dawn saddle]

appreciate it

[radiant sonnet]

Same. I’m less confused than I was three weeks ago.

[shrewd yarrow]

hello! nice to meet you and welcome to where you lose your sanity and become scitofranic, we do not take full responseability if your commited to a hospital

[supple pulsar]

was the cyan text solved with trifid to caesar using the key?

[shrewd yarrow]

:)

[autumn geyser]

No key

[supple pulsar]

that's interesting

[shrewd yarrow]

no, it was no key group size 5

[dawn saddle]

oh no i know what im getting myself into, i literally read all the old chats when Sixty posted his video on the old ARG

[supple pulsar]

hmmm

so we don't yet know what the numbers mean?

[autumn geyser]

I can confirm. I am currently in a mental hospital after yesterday's incident where I ▇▇▇▇▇▇ ▇ ▇▇▇▇▇ ▇▇▇▇▇

LMAO

I got it

let's goo

It's a trophy to get copypasta modded

[dawn saddle]

[supple pulsar]

232 9252

[shrewd yarrow]

were you trying to crack the redacted?

[supple pulsar]

Huh?

[autumn geyser]

Yep

[supple pulsar]

Oh.

[autumn geyser]

I got too close to the solution and it took over

[shrewd yarrow]

lmao

it started going "its not yet time to reveal the truth, stop forcing it"

:)

[supple pulsar]

so

just to confirm

its trifid (no key 5 letter group) -> caesar?

[autumn geyser]

yep

[shrewd yarrow]

yes, caesar shift 7

minor correction there lol

[supple pulsar]

im not getting it to work on trifid? let me try another trifid site

[shrewd yarrow]

i will link you the one i used

https://cryptii.com/pipes/trifid-cipher

[autumn geyser]

Also I noticed this earlier but cryptii was also the key for one of the images

So likely just kaminsky hinting at the fact that "hey use this site for the future thanks"

and now i only trust cryptii

[supple pulsar]

im still not getting it to work?? 😭

[shrewd yarrow]

hang on i will show you

[shrewd yarrow]

not the entire thing

[supple pulsar]

ah

so only the parts than we decyphered can be put through?

[shrewd yarrow]

correct

like the very last part on the first line

[autumn geyser]

yeah only parts of it are aqua cipher

[supple pulsar]

got it

thank you

[shrewd yarrow]

your welcome

[supple pulsar]

so

we still got the green parts to work out?

[shrewd yarrow]

correct

[supple pulsar]

uhh

wait

we may have to decrypt the other words individually

i did the same process putting the "edi" from the green part by itself and i got "the"

hmmm, second word doesnt cooperate though

[autumn geyser]

Yeah it's VERY likely to be "The"

[dawn saddle]

I am convinced Kaminsky made a whole new cypher jjst to mess with us

[autumn geyser]

3 letter word and it's insanely common

[supple pulsar]

it makes sense

"the" (something) takes us up to heaven

[autumn geyser]

Yeah I'll move the words over a little

[supple pulsar]

"cr" translates to "by"

[radiant sonnet]

if edi translates to the does that mean we know for certain
e = t
d = h
i = e

[autumn geyser]

Nope

[supple pulsar]

not necesarily

[autumn geyser]

It's unrelated to green cipher

[radiant sonnet]

oh

[autumn geyser]

Aqua and green use different methods, so a solution on aqua won't work on green

[radiant sonnet]

gotcha

[autumn geyser]

I moved the edi to be aqua cipher cause it worked out great and fits the probabilities

[supple pulsar]

cr of green text could be "by"

[autumn geyser]

Exploring possibilities of other words also being randomly interspliced

[supple pulsar]

interestingly, just going to trifid gives "if"

[autumn geyser]

Oh nice

I reckon it's more likely to be by

[supple pulsar]

you know

it's likely but

we're not 1000% certain

how about you add a different colour for what we think is the solution but we don't 1000% know for sure until we solve it all?

[autumn geyser]

yeah true

The colours are there for ciphertypes

[supple pulsar]

ah, true

[autumn geyser]

To easily distinguish type one from type two

[shrewd yarrow]

i did lnk into trifid into ceasar and got "gup"

[autumn geyser]

This could be type three ig but the primary method still gets us "if" if it does actually end up being that so we can easily filter later

Yep

[supple pulsar]

uhhhh

interesting

"hccor" translates to

"andby"

[autumn geyser]

oh shit

nice

[supple pulsar]

but interestingly

there's no spaces in the word

[autumn geyser]

Yeah

[supple pulsar]

have you spaced out things before?

[autumn geyser]

That's the theme of aqua cipher

If you check raw ciphertext, it's no spaces either

[supple pulsar]

yeah but

oh nevermind

you're right

[autumn geyser]

Interesting

Checking last line

rhsbatkh clear

gedzm clear

hx clear

[supple pulsar]

same here

nothing yields anything

[autumn geyser]

Last line all clear?

[supple pulsar]

im starting to think that the last line has its own decryption maybe

[shrewd yarrow]

hrsxd is the weird one it gets translated into a+cdr

[autumn geyser]

Yeah trifid does that sometimes

hx did the same

Got me x+ or whatever

Yeah now it's way more clear

[supple pulsar]

gotta go for a second

try uh

[autumn geyser]

Good catch on that "the" cipher

[supple pulsar]

spelling the words the other way around maybe

[autumn geyser]

I doubt it goes that deep

[supple pulsar]

or put the entire text we havent discovered together piece by piece

see if that yields something

interestingly though

the words we can't decrypt are those that are names or refer to something

[snow perch]

Tried that yesterday night, didn’t work for me but I probably did it wrong

[supple pulsar]

without looking at the last line

[shrewd yarrow]

dxsrh yeilded nothing 😦

[autumn geyser]

the [a] takes us up to heaven
if [b] and by [c] pill and powder
on the wings of angels we go
the kingdom of god and the children of man gone
[d]

[a] could potentally be fentanyl?

Letters don't match tho

It's an 8 letter long drug of some kind

[shrewd yarrow]

maybe

[dawn saddle]

morphine

[autumn geyser]

Does that match the letters?

it needs to have the second and last letter be the same

No other letters repeat

[dawn saddle]

ah shucks

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that's the rough part

And it takes you up to heaven, likely consumed by either pill or powder

[radiant sonnet]

is this solved?

[autumn geyser]

Nope

the [letter] are placeholders

[radiant sonnet]

i mean how did you get that

[autumn geyser]

Ah

Check doc for more but we got a lot of it solved

[radiant sonnet]

good work all

[radiant sonnet]

gotcha

[autumn geyser]

I reckon if we can roughly estimate what the first word is, we can work it out

Reverse engineer the cipher in a way

[shrewd yarrow]

soooo lnk got turned into gup

[autumn geyser]

I'm probably on a watchlist at this point lmao

[shrewd yarrow]

lol

looking on webbster it means foolish talk

[radiant sonnet]

ketamine

[autumn geyser]

Oh shit that works

Good job

[radiant sonnet]

pretty sure its not available in a pill form but thats the only one i came up with so far

nevermind, it actually is

just not common

the more ya know

[autumn geyser]

NIICE

good work

[supple pulsar]

hmmm

[radiant sonnet]

thx, i hope thats what it is but who knows

[supple pulsar]

that's a bit of an asumption

[snow perch]

Wb adderall and Benadryl

[supple pulsar]

but it could be

[autumn geyser]

Eh it's not an unbased one

[autumn geyser]

Letters don't match

[snow perch]

Alr

Ketamine is prob right

[supple pulsar]

why don't you add a space for possible words below?

[radiant sonnet]

second letter needs to be the same as last letter

[autumn geyser]

Time to spiral down the rabbithole of reverse engineering a cipher!

[snow perch]

And yes is does come in pill form

[radiant sonnet]

and ketamine definitely makes you fly to heaven lol

[supple pulsar]

just so we don't get ahead of ourselves with a wrong text

[radiant sonnet]

are we for certain its a drug it could be somethng else

[autumn geyser]

It's most likely a drug

[dawn saddle]

we could probs work out the rest of green of ket is the right word

[radiant sonnet]

it does fit with the theme

[autumn geyser]

Yea

What do you think the land of suffering is for

[shrewd yarrow]

ketemine is used for anesthesia

[radiant sonnet]

ketamine is used for a lot more than anaesthesia

[snow perch]

It’s also a hallucination

[supple pulsar]

didn't we earlier agree on the fact that individual letters don't match -

wh

did the whole doc get deletd for a second

[radiant sonnet]

ketamine is also used for therapy, mental treatments, recreational use, other stuff too.

and yes it is a hallucinogen in high doses

[autumn geyser]

Don't worry about it

[supple pulsar]

😭

[autumn geyser]

I hate myself

So much

[radiant sonnet]

LOL

[dawn saddle]

[shrewd yarrow]

were good

[snow perch]

Ain’t no way

[supple pulsar]

.

[autumn geyser]

Yeah we BETTER BE

[snow perch]

Okay good

[autumn geyser]

otherwise I would jump out of the window

[supple pulsar]

otherwise, 9mm

[dawn saddle]

if its gone then we are truly LOST

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[dawn saddle]

ahahahahaa

[radiant sonnet]

hey guys just wanna put this out there

[dawn saddle]

pain

[autumn geyser]

I mean we do have edit history

So we can easily fix it but still

[radiant sonnet]

4L1CHNO is used for methamphetamine

[autumn geyser]

Interesting

[radiant sonnet]

thats the precursor

its also used in other crystaline psychoactive substances like.... drumroll please... ketamine

[autumn geyser]

AYYYY

[dawn saddle]

the text may have used the shortened form "meth' idk

[autumn geyser]

Nice work boom

[shrewd yarrow]

well look at that

[autumn geyser]

I like how kaminsky is now teaching us drugs

[shrewd yarrow]

nah that's just ron in general

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[radiant sonnet]

USIA is pulling a CIA and putting drugs on the streets

[snow perch]

Based

[dawn saddle]

Kaminsky is already on a watch list

[autumn geyser]

Hey why not

[supple pulsar]

is part of the arg getting high on ketamine?

[rigid sphinx]

Considering my google history, yes

[autumn geyser]

I mean if it's cheap i don't mind

[supple pulsar]

maybe that's the real cypher

[autumn geyser]

Aren't we all

[dawn saddle]

get high and ace S+

[snow perch]

Yeah now we have to take ketamine and work on the ARG while high as shit

[autumn geyser]

Finally, a thing I can do!

[supple pulsar]

if you're high enough you'll start seeing what kaminsky actually wrote

[autumn geyser]

lmao

We thought it was a cipher

[radiant sonnet]

join the club

[radiant sonnet]

correction: its used in things like ketamine but not ketamine directly. sorry for misinformation

[autumn geyser]

Little did we know, it was just high people talk

[autumn geyser]

Eh close enough

I'll allow it

[radiant sonnet]

its very frequently used in amphetamines and methamphetamine, especially ones with psychoactive effects

[shrewd yarrow]

could fentanyl still be a thing?

[autumn geyser]

Wdym

[snow perch]

Yes I have some

[dawn saddle]

turns out it's just Judge high on the confiscated ket getting freaky on green gear

[shrewd yarrow]

not sure fentanyl is mixed into meth

[shrewd yarrow]

😮

[snow perch]

It’s in the candy I got from trick or treating 💀

[autumn geyser]

My friend pointed it out but Officer Walsh in the station looks baked

[dawn saddle]

🤨

[shrewd yarrow]

i mean, what do you think they do when we leave lobby?

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[dawn saddle]

even the therapist looks baked wym 😂

[autumn geyser]

That's why the evidence locker exists

[radiant sonnet]

more interesting, the substances based off 4L1CHNO are frequently used in research to study the effects of expiremental amphetamines.

this smells like MLO

[autumn geyser]

Everyone's been down there before

[autumn geyser]

Oh yep deffo

[radiant sonnet]

unlimited 24/7 drug supply

[shrewd yarrow]

i mean they get high as shit when everyone leaves a lobby from all the dying they do

[dawn saddle]

you are defo getting on a watch list after this

[snow perch]

Ooh nice

[autumn geyser]

Aren't we all already on one

[dawn saddle]

shush

[radiant sonnet]

all joking aside, I literally am, i have a bit of criminal history

I'm definitely on an NSA list

[shrewd yarrow]

😮

[snow perch]

Bro IS the MLO

[radiant sonnet]

which is why it is key for me to put into google "for a puzzle"

[shrewd yarrow]

all good

[dawn saddle]

im on the chinese government watch list

[supple pulsar]

😭

"in minecraft"

[radiant sonnet]

everyone is on the chinese government watchlist

[dawn saddle]

real

[autumn geyser]

"How much is 1kg of meth...
... for a puzzle"

[snow perch]

How do I make 41LCHNO (in Minecraft)

[radiant sonnet]

Did you get raided by the Feds too?

[autumn geyser]

The CIA watching us type "for a puzzle" after the most criminal shit ever:

[shrewd yarrow]

insert fbi gif here

[shrewd yarrow]

lol

[dawn saddle]

"Hey google, what happens when you start a shady organisation and give drugs to Mil and LEO vets in Minecraft?"

"correction, iron golems in minecraft"

[radiant sonnet]

not in my home but yes

[snow perch]

The CIA operative opening my Minecraft would just to see a 1:1 recreation of his house on fire

[shrewd yarrow]

"google: they get high as shit because of all the stupid shit we do on the character models"

[radiant sonnet]

also, ecstasy (MDMA) is DIRECTLY built off of 4L1CHNO

[shrewd yarrow]

bring on the nuke?

[snow perch]

Ecstasy is also a hallucinogen too

[dawn saddle]

DEA getting trigger happy rn with all the drug talk here

[autumn geyser]

Likely not beaufort or vigenere

Either that or it's not ketamine

I reversed ket to find the key, then put that in to some of the others, to no avail

[snow perch]

I think ketamine is the safe pick. Yall ever see House MD 😭🙏

[radiant sonnet]

The substances built off of 4L1CHNO are
Commonly: Amphetamines/Stimulants
Less Common: Misc. Psychoactive substances
Sometimes: Psychedelics

[autumn geyser]

Yeah I'm leaning towards it being correct

[dawn saddle]

"Do you know why are you black?"

[snow perch]

Break into their houses

[dawn saddle]

home invasion

[snow perch]

AYO?!

[autumn geyser]

yo thats like the name of the dlc or something

no way

[dawn saddle]

yes

[radiant sonnet]

i think this damn near confirms that MLO is messing with expiremental substances

[dawn saddle]

i can confirm, i am the expiremental substances

pill form autism

[radiant sonnet]

if it wasnt obvious before it definitely is now

[autumn geyser]

damn

[radiant sonnet]

MLO i mean

not the autism

lol

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[snow perch]

Well, what ever chemical they are using has a 100% lethality rate.

[autumn geyser]

Screw psychologists

[dawn saddle]

MLO giving everyone autism

[autumn geyser]

this is the new diagnosis

if you spend time in this arg you are officially on the spectrum

[snow perch]

It’s those damn vaccines and 5g towers

[autumn geyser]

lmao

i cant believe the mlo would do such a thing

[radiant sonnet]

we don't know 100% whether chrys and the other operative are dead, but they were definitely terminated from MLO so its likely

[snow perch]

We’ve all been infected with the rays of 5G

[autumn geyser]

Hey not me

I have yet to find a SINGLE functional 5G tower in my city

I'm on the 5G plan and I have never gotten 5G once

[radiant sonnet]

what city are you in

ive been to like

farms

with 5g

[snow perch]

I’d guess that it’s is lethal because Cam and Chrys self administers. (Killing themselves)

[autumn geyser]

I'm from lithuania

We're poor here

[dawn saddle]

5G never works on my end as well lol

[radiant sonnet]

ohh that makes sense

[autumn geyser]

We may have some bloody awesome and cheap internet speeds but we do not have infrastructure lmao

[snow perch]

That’s so real, I’ve only gotta good 5G on road trips

[autumn geyser]

Also technically take enough and anything's lethal

I'm sure you can OD on literally anything

[radiant sonnet]

This would make sense yeah. Also worth noting in previous messages 4L1 was administered to CHSN to "keep them quiet"

[dawn saddle]

ODing on this arg

finna explode

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[radiant sonnet]

You can't OD on cannabis.

[supple pulsar]

guys

[autumn geyser]

Not with that attitude

[supple pulsar]

serious talk for a moment

[dawn saddle]

green out

[supple pulsar]

do you think the last line has its own cypher?

[snow perch]

What if the MLO were just a pharmaceutical company

[autumn geyser]

Honestly I don't doubt it

[shrewd yarrow]

more then likely

[snow perch]

And this was a clinical trial

[dawn saddle]

most likely yes

[autumn geyser]

That's even worse

They're big pharma

[shrewd yarrow]

i tried putting it in trifid caesar nothing

[radiant sonnet]

i feel like they have to be more than a pharma company, considering them abducting the CHSN, shootouts with police, etc.. thats some umbrella corp shit

[radiant sonnet]

Allow me to correct myself: You can't die from OD'ing on cannabis.

[dawn saddle]

what if it's just Loagn Paul and KSI testing out their new PRIME flavor "Ket"

[autumn geyser]

Not with that attitude

[snow perch]

Yeah I was joking about that 😭

[autumn geyser]

Comes with a free one way trip straight to the lord and saviour

[sacred dawn]

Idk if I asked this but you guys did try the word "pneuma" as a key?

Or is that too short

[dawn saddle]

one thing is for sure is that they don't fuck with the current system

[supple pulsar]

a key for what? vigenere?

doesn't yield any results

[snow perch]

You can just get really fucking high

[sacred dawn]

Hmm ok

[autumn geyser]

Anyone wanna join me in the land of suffering?

[radiant sonnet]

the [a] takes us up to heaven
if [b] and by [c] pill and powder
on the wings of angels we go
the kingdom of god and the children of man gone
[d]

so we think [a] = ketamine
is ketamine also [b] and [c]?

[sacred dawn]

I occasionally still get green outs lol

[autumn geyser]

[b] and [c] are different words

100%

[snow perch]

Gotta be

[radiant sonnet]

and we're sure [a] is a drug?

[autumn geyser]

I'm sure

[radiant sonnet]

okay perfect

i think were on the right track

[autumn geyser]

Not sure if others are but I am 100% certain

Cause what else takes you up to heaven

Well apart from a 12 gauge

[radiant sonnet]

it could be figurative

[shrewd yarrow]

a 5.56

[autumn geyser]

Yeah it is figurative in the sense that the drugs make you experience insane trips

[shrewd yarrow]

or maybe 7.62

🤔

[autumn geyser]

I'd say 7.62 more than 5.56

[radiant sonnet]

we'll stick with ketamine for now then since that fits

[shrewd yarrow]

either really depending but anywho

[autumn geyser]

Yea ket should work

[snow perch]

I’m mean it fits, it’s a hallucinogen, and pain killer.

[autumn geyser]

Bouta ask a cryptography forum on whether or not it's possible to find a cipher type through the plaintext and ciphertext

[shrewd yarrow]

the pqontuhq takesusuptoheaven
if gup and by hrsxd pillandpowder
onthewingsofangelswego
thekingdomofgodandthechildrenofmangone

what i have so far

[autumn geyser]

What's gup

[shrewd yarrow]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gup#:~:text=%3A foolish talk %3A nonsense

[autumn geyser]

Idk if it fits

[shrewd yarrow]

not quite sure either but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

unless it was suppose to be CUP

no idea

[autumn geyser]

if cup and by

Still doesn't work

[shrewd yarrow]

hmm

[autumn geyser]

Or it could be by cup and by

And by [x] pill and powder

[shrewd yarrow]

maybe?

[autumn geyser]

That one seems more likely to me

That it's
by [a] and by [b] pill and powder

Anyways asked the forum question on how to reverse engineer ciphers, I'll see if any use comes out of that

It's a longshot but it's the only thing I can think of that we have so far

[shrewd yarrow]

wait wait wait

wanna see something funny?

[autumn geyser]

Ye

[autumn geyser]

Yea

[shrewd yarrow]

now watch

[autumn geyser]

Turns into by

[shrewd yarrow]

yep

LOL

cr = by

[snow perch]

Is it supposed to be on encode?

[shrewd yarrow]

it gets the same results either way

[snow perch]

Alrighty, nice!

[radiant sonnet]

the ketamine takes us up to heaven
by [b] and by [c] pill and powder
on the wings of angels we go
the kingdom of god and the children of man gone

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

do we think [c] is also a drug

[snow perch]

I’m willing to guess that (c) is a verb

Taking, huffing, etc

[shrewd yarrow]

correction on the if, its actually by

[autumn geyser]

I actually believe that b and c are nouns

[radiant sonnet]

cup makes sense for [b]

[shrewd yarrow]

which makes me think that gup is maybe suppose to be cup

[autumn geyser]

Actually why don't we just

[snow perch]

Cup prolly makes sense

[autumn geyser]

@rigid sphinx Is this a spelling error or is it meant to be like this?

[snow perch]

They making Lean

[autumn geyser]

(knowing your track record, we can never be too safe)

[radiant sonnet]

the ketamine takes us up to heaven
by g(c)up and by [c] pill and powder
on the wings of angels we go
the kingdom of god and the children of man gone

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

[autumn geyser]

God damn we're doing really well in putting this thing together

Considering just 24 hours ago we were banging our heads against the wall thinking what on earth it could be

[snow perch]

C needs to be 8 letters right

[radiant sonnet]

C is 5 letters

[snow perch]

Okay

[rigid sphinx]

Nope, wrong word. :>

[autumn geyser]

God damn it

[radiant sonnet]

so its not cup

[shrewd yarrow]

damn

[radiant sonnet]

what else could it be

3 letters, most likely a noun

[snow perch]

Probably some container or related to drugs

[shrewd yarrow]

bag?

[radiant sonnet]

bag would make sense

[autumn geyser]

Bag would make sense yea

[radiant sonnet]

illegal ketamine is usually sold in the little baggies

so that checks out

[snow perch]

Im fine with bag as an answer

Checks out

[radiant sonnet]

the ketamine takes us up to heaven
by bag and by [c] pill and powder
on the wings of angels we go
the kingdom of god and the children of man gone

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

[supple pulsar]

@rigid sphinx watching while laughing his ass off at OUR stupidity

[snow perch]

Do we think c is also a drug related container?

[radiant sonnet]

bro for all i know it has nothing to do with drugs and kaminsky thinks im tweaking out

[snow perch]

Like needle but 5 letters

[autumn geyser]

And also no letter repetition

[snow perch]

This is just your withdrawal induced hallucinations

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[radiant sonnet]

i think [c] might be a verb

[snow perch]

Taking?

[radiant sonnet]

5 letters

[autumn geyser]

5 letters

lmao

[snow perch]

Takin’ 💀

[autumn geyser]

lmao

random shot but
by bag and by mouth, pill and powder

[radiant sonnet]

yo

[autumn geyser]

probably not that but it might fit

[radiant sonnet]

pill is taken orally

by mouth

[autumn geyser]

cause pill mouth and powder bag

[radiant sonnet]

powder comes in a baggie

yea

[autumn geyser]

I think that one might fit

Imagine if we're right on this one

[snow perch]

Looks good

[radiant sonnet]

the ketamine takes us up to heaven
by bag and by mouth pill and powder
on the wings of angels we go
the kingdom of god and the children of man gone

J'jw bdkh pepkwja, rhsbatkh jm axokd hx.

[autumn geyser]

And we just solved a cipher through pure, raw predictions

that'd be so funny

[supple pulsar]

wait a minute

[radiant sonnet]

i have no idea lol

[rigid sphinx]

Naw, watching these things is nothing about stupidity, it's about attempting to align with the puppetmasters line of thought and trying to solve what they dropped infront of you

[shrewd yarrow]

do you DM dnd alot Kaminsky?

[rigid sphinx]

[shrewd yarrow]

you do an exellent job!

[autumn geyser]

Indeed

Awesome ARG so far

[supple pulsar]

oka

i have an idea

[supple pulsar]

+1

so

you know how trifid works right?

[shrewd yarrow]

yeah

[autumn geyser]

Yep

[supple pulsar]

what if the other cyphered text is trifid but just with different group sizes?

we could rule out it being trifid in its entirety

if by using the word "ketamine" we find the possible combinations in which the letters could be in

and if there's none, then it's just not a trifid cypher at all

does that make sense-

[autumn geyser]

Thing is

If you go into the land of suffering

The shift for letters wouldn't match the pattern we're so far seeing for trifid

It might be trifid on its own but the letter difference for a caesar is inconsistent

[supple pulsar]

hmmm, true

fuck it we ball, im just going to vigenere it and pray

[autumn geyser]

Vigenere's clear if ket is the right word

At least for green

[fair thorn]

💀

[supple pulsar]

for yellow though?

[autumn geyser]

Yellow is unlikely to be vig with that first word

[supple pulsar]

why's that?

[autumn geyser]

apostrophe

And if we disregard that, what word is a'ab

[supple pulsar]

he could've added it later, though?

[supple pulsar]

it isn't a'ab if its vig though

[radiant sonnet]

im wondering if the first part is even correct lol

[autumn geyser]

Wait right it's not holy shit I'm dumb lmao

Eh idk

We ball ig

'BOS', 'BB ', 'O X', ' GZ', 'TIG', 'VPD', 'CM ', 'Z L', ' UA', 'HJL', 'WUG', 'HPS', 'CBF', 'OOW', 'BF,', 'S, ', ', N', ' WD', 'JMO', 'ZXX', 'KGW', 'TFP', 'SYG', 'LPD', 'CM ', 'Z F', ' OI', 'BR ', 'E W', ' FT', 'SCK', 'PTG', 'GPZ', 'CI ', 'V D', ' MT', 'ZC.'

[supple pulsar]

huh

[autumn geyser]

Wait no one sec

Wait no that's right yeah

That's the possible keys assuming I've is the first word

[supple pulsar]

well

that would be the START of the key, no?

[autumn geyser]

Wdym

Oh yea possible

Honestly idek

I'm just lost at this point

[supple pulsar]

wait a minute

[autumn geyser]

Says it's most likely a 5/6 letter key

[supple pulsar]

next ready or not mission to release will be an extension to the home invasion dlc

this time about us going to kaminsky's house to try and solve the arg once and for all

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[supple pulsar]

and they'll catch us just as we're about to get it solved

[snow perch]

it will take 5 years to make

[shrewd yarrow]

raid on Lilies compound

[rigid sphinx]

[autumn geyser]

kaminsky watching as the devs program a 1:1 recreation of his house and the lore being 12 arg-deprived people raiding his house for answers:

[snow perch]

sleep with one eye open

we are searching for answers

[autumn geyser]

One eye is not enough

[supple pulsar]

guys i think we're overthinking again 😭

let's stick to our guns

[snow perch]

sleep with a shotgun under ur pillow

[autumn geyser]

Shotgun won't stop me

[dawn saddle]

@boreal kite i ran out of toilet paper after a dump, i am truly lost

[snow perch]

imagine this

[autumn geyser]

damn

[snow perch]

we had one last question, we had a the biggest plan to solve this

and it responds to that

[autumn geyser]

lmao

that'd be amazing

[snow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

[autumn geyser]

embed failure

[dawn saddle]

don't "imagine", kaminsky is gonna pull a funny and actully do it

[autumn geyser]

laugh at this user

[supple pulsar]

STOP

😭

[snow perch]

you understand the gif now

[dawn saddle]

these look like clues from Lilies eyes lol

[autumn geyser]

lmao

mans recreated a gif with images

[supple pulsar]

im thinking this has to do with the last sentence

the only thing bothering me

is that i have no clue what could make it have sense

[sacred dawn]

The key is in the

sentances

[dawn saddle]

The interloper and the innocent has been mentioned multiple times

Any thoughts?

[supple pulsar]

so